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<v Speaker 1>Y US intelligence officials are urging Americans to use encrypted

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<v Speaker 1>him address the whole transitioning from Cox Email and all

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<v Speaker 1>these other providers that Yahoo mal now handles.

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<v Speaker 2>You can understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've got the Vergess smart home expert Jennifer Twey.

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<v Speaker 1>She is going to talk about matter, the new universal

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<v Speaker 1>standard for connected devices. Well, I hope you are having

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic weekend back in the saddle here. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday slide, as I call it. We have been busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sure you have been busy as well. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The holidays are supposed to be a relaxing time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for a lot of people, they're very stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're talking to a lot of people, you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing family, there's a lot of events that are out

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<v Speaker 1>late at night, and then you're dragging into work in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. So it's all this stuff that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comes together. And by the way, it's six season. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife was like, why does the holiday season have to

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<v Speaker 1>be during the sick time. We've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>sick people in our house right now. I'm like the

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<v Speaker 1>last band standing, always like everyone's coughing around me and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, and I'm just like, please don't get this, please,

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<v Speaker 1>So I take my vitamins and that's the best I

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<v Speaker 1>can do, I guess, right. But anyway, happy holidays to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're having a great season. And I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>heard the news about this whole idea of this China

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<v Speaker 1>spying on us with the text messages and the networks

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<v Speaker 1>that we have here. Apparently they've gotten some of the

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive information that we exchange on a daily basis. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>this is still under investigation, but you've probably seen the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines where US intelligence officials are urging Americans to use

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<v Speaker 1>encrypted communications. Now, before you say I've got nothing a hide,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to worry about this stuff. I'll address

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<v Speaker 1>that towards the end. But let me explain what this

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<v Speaker 1>all means. So first off, you know, anytime you're communicating,

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<v Speaker 1>communicating via email or via text message or browsing the web,

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably heard of the term encryption, right or encrypted.

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<v Speaker 1>There's several flavors of encryption. The most prevalent is well

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<v Speaker 1>number one, no encryption. That's just plain text. That means

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<v Speaker 1>if I wrote wrote something on a piece of paper

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<v Speaker 1>and just handed it to you, you could easily read that,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, right. And I think we're going to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff as kind of sending a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>someone so that you can understand it very easily as

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<v Speaker 1>I can so imagine. No encryption is writing your message

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<v Speaker 1>on a postcard, right you put it in the mailbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone that comes across that postcard can read that message

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<v Speaker 1>because it is out in the open. Then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your basic encryption. And this means that your letter is

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<v Speaker 1>now in an envelope, but it has a pretty unique

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<v Speaker 1>lock on it, right, and only someone with that lock

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<v Speaker 1>can unlock it and read that message. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're talking about email or your provider, they probably

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<v Speaker 1>have the key to that. So if the post office

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to open up your letter and see what's inside,

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<v Speaker 1>they could do it right because you just seal it

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<v Speaker 1>with a lick and an envelope and it's very easily sealed.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's basic encryption. Anyone that's seeing the letter or

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<v Speaker 1>the envelope, they're not seeing what's inside that envelope. But

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<v Speaker 1>people have the ability to open up that envelope and

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<v Speaker 1>see what's in there. But of course, when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about encryption, you'd have to have a key. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>have what you really want is what's called end to

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<v Speaker 1>end encryption. So imagine you take that same letter, you

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<v Speaker 1>put it in an envelope, and then you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>put this secret, super duper lock on that envelope that

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<v Speaker 1>not even the post office who's handling this thing can

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<v Speaker 1>unlock and read. And so that's really the type of

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<v Speaker 1>encryption that you want for your messaging and your email.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I'm gonna explain, that's not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>What we get. And so that is what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you getting when you are doing I Message,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is messages between Apple devices. They do offer

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<v Speaker 1>end to end encryption, and Apple has been a big

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<v Speaker 1>proponent of privacy, and this turns out to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very good thing because the millions upon millions of messages

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<v Speaker 1>that are sent on a daily basis through I Message

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<v Speaker 1>are all encrypted. That's when you see a blue bubble. However,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're sending to a non Apple device, say an

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<v Speaker 1>Android device, those are not encrypted. And I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that more in a second here. Now, when you're sending

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<v Speaker 1>Android to Android, Android just recently got this upgrade to

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<v Speaker 1>what's called RCS Rich Communication Services, and Google does encrypt

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<v Speaker 1>that end to end, which means, if you ever notice,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're texting an Android friend and you're on an Android,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll notice there's a little lock next to your message,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means that your message is end to end encrypted.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that no one, not even Google, can read

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<v Speaker 1>the message that you are sending to that other person.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the person, not the wireless provider, not your phone company,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. No one can read that message, just the

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<v Speaker 1>person on the other end. Now here's where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little challenging when you're talking about cross platform messaging

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<v Speaker 1>and group texts. Typically, group texts are not encrypted, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if they involve a mix of iPhone and Android. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when you're sending between those platforms, so iPhone to Android,

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<v Speaker 1>Android to iPhone, those are not encrypted either. Now iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>recently got that upgrade to RCS, so yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>send big photos and files and see the typing indicators

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<v Speaker 1>when you text someone that's on Android. But Apple did

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<v Speaker 1>not implement the end to end encryption protocol that they

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<v Speaker 1>could do. So this is something that Apple could do

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to, but it's something they have not

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<v Speaker 1>done yet. So just remember, if your same platform, same platform,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be encrypted. Cross platform group message is

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<v Speaker 1>probably not encrypted. Now what can you do if you

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<v Speaker 1>want your messages to be the most secure, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can switch to an app that is encrypted and to

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<v Speaker 1>end by default, and there are two prominent apps that

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<v Speaker 1>do this. The first is Signal. This is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>predominantly used by sort of people in the no journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>high ranking officials. They all know about Signal, And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you have a techie in your family that's tried to

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<v Speaker 1>convince you to switch to Signal, but good luck getting

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in your family to switch to any third party

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<v Speaker 1>messaging app.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Signal is end to end encrypted, it is all

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<v Speaker 1>secure by default. Another app that is also secure by

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<v Speaker 1>default is WhatsApp, and WhatsApp has always been end to

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<v Speaker 1>end encrypted, which is super private, and that's on by

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<v Speaker 1>default for all messages. However, this is owned by Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>which some people may not like. They bought WhatsApp. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't create WhatsApp, they did purchase it. And also Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>does collect some metadata, so just because they can't read

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<v Speaker 1>your messages doesn't mean that they don't know who you're

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<v Speaker 1>sending them to and some other information surrounding them. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some other messaging apps out there, like Telegram

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<v Speaker 1>that's a popular messaging app, and yes, they offer end

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<v Speaker 1>to end encryption, but you have to toggle it on

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<v Speaker 1>for every single chat that you want end to end

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<v Speaker 1>encryption on. That means that if you're not doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>Telegram can pretty much access the information inside your messages

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to. I'm not saying they're reading them all,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know they could. And that also potentially means

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<v Speaker 1>that someone else could access the information of those messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook Messenger is also another popular messaging app. They also

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<v Speaker 1>provide end to end encryption, but again you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it on a case by case basis, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to manually enable it. They call it secret Conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Telegram calls it secret chats. So your standard messages on

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<v Speaker 1>both of these services are not end to end encrypted.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might be seeing that these are encrypted, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not end to end encrypted. So what does this

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<v Speaker 1>all mean for you? You know, you have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the limitations of these services. So if you're using something

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<v Speaker 1>like I Message shirt, it's encrypted, US an RCS shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>it's encrypted. If you're using a third party app, it

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<v Speaker 1>may not be encrypted. And it's really tough to get

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family to switch to one app where everything

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<v Speaker 1>is secure. Now here's the big argument I get from people.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, Rich, I've got nothing to hide. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>I need my information encrypted? I don't need encryption. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not hiding anything. I'm not doing anything wrong, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care who sees my messages. And that is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent wrong. Now, I'm not going to say that

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<v Speaker 1>what your thought process is wrong, but I think it's flawed.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the reason. Why have you ever taken someone

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<v Speaker 1>aside at work and said, hey, can we chat for

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<v Speaker 1>a second? And you know that that conversation is private?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? We do this all the time with people.

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<v Speaker 1>We chat with them, we talk to them, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have an understanding that what we are saying to that

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<v Speaker 1>person is private and it's not being recorded, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not being shared and it's not public. Could you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>not having that ever online?

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<v Speaker 4>Ever?

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<v Speaker 1>So Number One, privacy as a fundamental right. Privacy should

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<v Speaker 1>be a fundamental right of humans, especially as tech takes

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<v Speaker 1>over more aspects of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Misuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about how much information you share in your messages

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<v Speaker 1>and in your email on a daily basis. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's medical information, it's a password that you share with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend or a family member. There are one time

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<v Speaker 1>codes that help you access your accounts. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much information that we share on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 1>that would you want that out there on the front

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<v Speaker 1>page of the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's something that's innocent, you probably don't want

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. And just in general, when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about democracy, you know, we don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a surveillance society, do we? I mean don't you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the ability to protect what you say to

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, no matter how you're communicating with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>that includes your online communications. So imagine a US where

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<v Speaker 1>they said, no, you know what, encryption is illegal, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't encrypt your messages. How would you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not good. So please don't use the argument that

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<v Speaker 1>says I have nothing to hide, I don't need encryption,

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<v Speaker 1>because that really really, uh, it just affects me in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that like, hold on, you're not understanding the

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<v Speaker 1>entire side of this. By the way, when you email,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using Gmail or any other email program, it's

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<v Speaker 1>encrypted in transit, but it's not typically end to end encrypted.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want your email to be fully encrypted, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to use a service that offers that something like

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<v Speaker 1>a proton mail. All right eight eight eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>Feels good to be back in here this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even can I say that last week was a repeat?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? You know what it's done?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, I get a couple of times a

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<v Speaker 1>year where I can do a show that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a best of show, and last week after a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those shows. So everyone had off. Bobo

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<v Speaker 1>had off, Kim had off, I had off. Who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have off? I think everyone had off? So that was

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. Did you enjoy your time off?

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<v Speaker 2>Bobo?

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<v Speaker 1>Adam didn't have off. Adam didn't have Adam. Adam had

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<v Speaker 1>to do the show. So but he did a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in good hands. So you know, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where it feels good to have that

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<v Speaker 1>time off.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a good time off. Yeah, it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to help my wife with her

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<v Speaker 2>side venture. And yeah, she does the candles. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>makes candles.

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<v Speaker 1>What's her it's it's on Instagram in the aura, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Aura. Yeah she does. You gave me a couple

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<v Speaker 1>last year and they smell great. And we have the

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<v Speaker 1>room spray too, which is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I am my kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Parker has like taken a liking to like straightening

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<v Speaker 1>up the house. And when he's done straightening everything up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does a really great job. He does little

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<v Speaker 1>sprits of the stuff. It's it's great. Uh let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to uh Eleana in Berkeley, California.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on with Rich har Rich.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what can I help you with that?

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<v Speaker 5>I love your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I am really frustrated because I have at Mobile and

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<v Speaker 5>I pay for the forty gig and I know they

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<v Speaker 5>says it slows down after the.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty gig youth.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm currently don't have a wireless because I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just paying off debt, you know, trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 5>of before I add another bill in my life blows down.

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<v Speaker 5>This this unlimited and I also pay them up front too.

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<v Speaker 5>I paid them like the whole year in advance, and

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<v Speaker 5>this thing starts slowing down at the two week mark

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<v Speaker 5>and a buffers terribly. And I just feel like it's

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<v Speaker 5>like if your test that decided the buff wrap for

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<v Speaker 5>five hundred bucks and you couldn't accept rate. I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't think it's fair. It's almost a deal breaker.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you notice it?

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<v Speaker 1>So? Number one, have you looked at your have you

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<v Speaker 1>done a speed test on your phone?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, So what I would do is I would

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<v Speaker 1>download an app called Meteor met eo R okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>the like the Comet or like a you know, Heavenly body,

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<v Speaker 1>the Meteor app, and then I turn off your Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have Wi Fi at home? You said, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so you're running everything through this mint Mobile plan.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have mint Mobile on a test line and

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<v Speaker 1>I use it, and I okay, so I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I definitely notice a little bit of buffering and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a slower connection than my standard

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety dollars a month Horizon connection.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you have to give and you take.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, mint Mobile is significantly less, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is you're paying for that forty But what

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<v Speaker 1>they don't guarantee necessarily is the speed on that now

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<v Speaker 1>you should get it. For the most part, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can find their broadband. They have this thing

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<v Speaker 1>called Broadband Facts for Mint Mobile, which tells you what

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<v Speaker 1>your speed is supposed to be. So if we look

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<v Speaker 1>at this unlimited that's thirty dollars a month, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get typical download speeds of seventy nine to three

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<v Speaker 1>point fifty seven and then typical upload of six to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty And that's actually across all their plans no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>But they also have a network management policy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that is what they reserve the right to slow down

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<v Speaker 1>your services. And so if you're using a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>data in a place that's very congested, they could slow

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<v Speaker 1>down your data to help other people make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they get their access. And by the way, also one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big things about these prepaid plans that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize is that they are they are limiting your

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<v Speaker 1>video quality as well. So you're getting SD video quality

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. You can never get HD video quality.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that is a big thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to take into consideration. If you're streaming a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff on Netflix. According to mint Mobile. They're limiting

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<v Speaker 1>your streaming to one point five megabits per second, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's for ADP, which is basically SD quality. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to know, you know, if you're looking at Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching reels and all that kind of stuff, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be slower. But what I would recommend is

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of monitor this. So Number one, on your

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone itself, there is a way to reset your cellular data.

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<v Speaker 1>So go into your settings, look under cellular and you

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<v Speaker 1>can reset. It says cellular usage statistics on the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can press reset statistics and that will start keeping

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<v Speaker 1>track of how much cellular you are using. So I

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and then I would do the speed test

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the month, when your bill cycle starts,

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<v Speaker 1>do a speed test and see what speed you're getting,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will tell you if you're actually being slowed

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<v Speaker 1>down or not. And make sure your WiFi is turned

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<v Speaker 1>off on your phone. You don't want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>your Wi Fi. So for instance, right now, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>getting twenty two megabits per second on this phone. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is on a big Verizon plan, so it depends

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<v Speaker 1>where you are as well. So I would do that

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<v Speaker 1>do the test a couple times a month, once at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, once in the middle, once at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and see if you're getting a completely different speed. And

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<v Speaker 1>the program will log those speeds as well, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at your history and see what your speeds were.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I would do to kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But Elena, I use the mid Mobile, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the price, I really don't think it can be be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have a pretty good service for the

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<v Speaker 1>price you're paying. And I love that you're paying off

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<v Speaker 1>the debt and you're trying to, you know, save the money,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you got to give some, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to take some, and I think you're you're taking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit right now. Eighty eight rich one O one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The phone line is eighty

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<v Speaker 1>to eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the calls in just a moment here after our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>The website for the show rich on Tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made it a little bit easier to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with the show notes. You can scroll down on the

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<v Speaker 1>page this is show number one hundred. Oh wow, look

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<v Speaker 1>at that Crisp one hundred dollars bill. We've got show

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<v Speaker 1>number one hundred. And you can also hit the light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb at the top. There we go, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the show notes in live time. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you follow the news this week, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Disneyland and I don't know why, but I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been checking the bitcoin price because it's been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like wild lately, and all of a sudden it hit.

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<v Speaker 1>It crossed one hundred thousand dollars, and you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>kids all into it and everything, so we were all

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my gosh. And then I run into

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<v Speaker 1>a friend at Disneyland. It was like an event night,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a big bitcoin guy, and I was like, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see He's like, see what I'm like, Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>it reached one hundred thousand. He's like what he gave me,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest hug I've ever gotten from this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So bitcoin surpassed one hundred thousand dollars for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time this week, really cementing in a lot of people's minds,

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<v Speaker 1>its status as a mainstream financial asset. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people might have dismissed this as a fad in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>myself included. I will admit I had friends back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day that we're all into this, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of said, come on, talk to me when it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, of course people are into it because of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our future president and he has embraced cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course all the Wall Street investments in this

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<v Speaker 1>crypto as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So just keep in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind it is still highly volatile and you know, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>is guaranteed, but people are excited about this. That all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes into my next guest, Coinbase cso Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Martin is joining me to talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things you need to be aware of when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to online scams and protecting digital assets.

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<v Speaker 2>Phillip Martin, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks thanks for having me on episode one hundred. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>well it's the Moustone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fitting one hundred thousand dollars and episode of one

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Are people just like, are they just cheering

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<v Speaker 1>at coinbase when it crosses one hundred thousand or what?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's there's always enthusiasm for these moments. But

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<v Speaker 6>I think one of the things you learned being in

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<v Speaker 6>an industry like cryptocurrency is there are ups and their

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<v Speaker 6>downs and they're both going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very true. I mean, what does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>to you that it's crossed this number? Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's good forever or does that mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it's good right now? I mean, what what does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I personally don't anchor kane to it

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<v Speaker 6>to you know, round numbers like this. I think it's great,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's a moment to celebrate. It really is very special.

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<v Speaker 6>But I joined coinbase it was red round six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 6>So yep, so huge, huge difference. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're focused on the work ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now let's talk about this because crypto has sort

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<v Speaker 1>of been thrust to the forefront lately in mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>and just everywhere online because of these milestones. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 1>scammers follow, right, they always are trying to. I always

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<v Speaker 1>say the scammers are trying to, you know, separate us

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<v Speaker 1>from our hard earned cash, and crypto is no different.

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<v Speaker 1>So Number one are you seeing a lot of scams

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to cryptocurrency?

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<v Speaker 2>And why sure?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, bad guys like money just like everybody else, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and we we absolutely when when when price action shows up.

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<v Speaker 6>The other interesting thing thing to realize is bad guys

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<v Speaker 6>read the news, right, and so when they see crypto,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, across the milestone, just like any other asset, Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>they turn their attention you know more to that asset

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<v Speaker 6>because they think there's funny there. So so we see

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<v Speaker 6>scams go go up and down, you know, loosely lined

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<v Speaker 6>to the price of big cooin. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>important to note that that we see this across the

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<v Speaker 6>across all financial instruments, right, that that that are vulnerable

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<v Speaker 6>to theft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean people are buying gift cards at Target

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<v Speaker 1>and sending the code to people. I mean, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference if you're sending money from a you know to

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin wallet number. So what do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the I mean, is there like a top scam that

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<v Speaker 1>you've identified that you can alert people about.

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<v Speaker 6>So scams, it's important to note scams of all the

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<v Speaker 6>come and go. They change over time, like very frequently,

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<v Speaker 6>as as scammers of all their tactics I think right now,

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<v Speaker 6>probably the biggest name the folks bandilot is a scam

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<v Speaker 6>called pig butchering, which is a type of a romance

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<v Speaker 6>scam right where scammers build trust, you know, maybe through

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<v Speaker 6>dating apps places like that, and use that trust to

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<v Speaker 6>trick a victim into a financial transaction of some sort

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<v Speaker 6>of the benefits of scammer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so wild.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically you kind of get you know, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to someone, you get to know them, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they're like, hey, can you send me money?

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<v Speaker 2>And people actually do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, although it's actually much more nuanced than that, right

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<v Speaker 6>with these these games can take weeks months unpulled, and

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.719
<v Speaker 6>normally the gamers are actually exploiting some piece of information

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<v Speaker 6>they've learned about the victim, their desire to buy a house,

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<v Speaker 6>something like that, and say, hey, you know, I've made

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of money doing this. I can show you how.

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<v Speaker 7>M M.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what steps can we take to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, protect ourselves, Like obviously if something sounds too

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<v Speaker 1>good to be true, but I mean realistically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these people still get victims, So what what do we

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<v Speaker 1>look out for?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, these people are very very good at at their job. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>So one thing two or three components here that to

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<v Speaker 6>me always stream scam right when when somebody is creating

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<v Speaker 6>a sense of urgency in you. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>this is also important to think about in sales interactions

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<v Speaker 6>in general, when someone is writing that sense of burned

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<v Speaker 6>if you have to do it right now, now, now, now, now,

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<v Speaker 6>That to me is is a moment that I want

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<v Speaker 6>to slow down right and ask myself, why is it

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<v Speaker 6>so important that this happened right now? What they what

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<v Speaker 6>do they want me to not see? The second thing

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<v Speaker 6>I would say is it's it's very impos when you're

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<v Speaker 6>interacting with somebody who's who perhaps encouraging you to make

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<v Speaker 6>a financial decision or pang voice. If that person is

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<v Speaker 6>encouraging you not to talk to friends and family about it,

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 6>is in fact trying to isolate that decision to just

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<v Speaker 6>you and them. That's also a very important warning sign.

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<v Speaker 6>You shouldn't be able to talk to friends and family

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<v Speaker 6>about important financial decisions that you're going to make.

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<v Speaker 2>MM. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they're trying to trying to urge you into

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<v Speaker 1>doing something fast and also trying to make you not

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<v Speaker 1>consult someone else. I mean it sounds like you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about buying a car. That's like, yeah, this literally sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the tactics at the car dealership.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a very small difference between the tactics a

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<v Speaker 6>scammer might use and the tactics an aggressive salesperson might use.

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<v Speaker 6>They're all trying to drive you to an outcome that's

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<v Speaker 6>good for them and not good for you necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I've also heard about a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stories where people either lose access to their crypto wallet

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<v Speaker 1>or you know that once they send money to someone,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get it back. In this this situation, can

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<v Speaker 1>you address those two things like can you recover money

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<v Speaker 1>if you send it to someone? And also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we need to do to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>when we set up an account and buy crypto we

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<v Speaker 1>don't lose access to that account?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Those are those are great questions. So so first

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 6>of all, is on the can you can you recover

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 6>money that you send somewhere else? You the the the

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<v Speaker 6>consumer of the individual, the person that that sent the

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<v Speaker 6>funds uh no is the is the base of answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Much like a wire transfer or if you put a

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<v Speaker 6>gift card in the mail, or whatever right that those

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 6>funds have already left. Now, this goes into how important

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<v Speaker 6>it is the contact law enforcement. You believe you were

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<v Speaker 6>the victim of a scam, fraud, of theft, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 6>and report to your local police department, report it to

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<v Speaker 6>IC three, which is a thing run by the FBI.

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<v Speaker 6>They do look at these Uh. It is important that

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<v Speaker 6>that we do reach out because they have tools that

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the average the average individual doesn't, and they

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<v Speaker 6>go after these criminal groups that are largely based outside

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<v Speaker 6>the US. Southeast Asia in particular is a focus area.

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<v Speaker 6>There has been success in law enforcement as they're bringing

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<v Speaker 6>these groups to justice, being able to access those funds

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<v Speaker 6>and in some cases getting those funds back to two victims. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to create the the the the impression

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<v Speaker 6>that this happens one hundred percent of the time. It

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely does not. But it is a possibility, got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about the second half of getting your money back?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you lose your if.

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<v Speaker 6>You lose it, yeah, so this this you know, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the promises of bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 6>you can be your own bank, right, you do not

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<v Speaker 6>have to use a third party to customer your assets.

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<v Speaker 6>Part of being your own bank is making sure that

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<v Speaker 6>you have backups in place that you can access these

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 6>funds when you need them, even if something bad happens,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 6>even if God forbid your house burns down, or if

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 6>something else catastrophic happens. And so, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 6>custody your own bitcoin, protect your own keys, control your

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 6>own keys in that way, and by no means do

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 6>I dissuade anyone from doing that. You have to start

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<v Speaker 6>thinking about, uh, you know, more than just oh, I'm

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 6>going to open the app and it's all it's all

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 6>going to be there. You have to start thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>worst case scenarios were people that use. This is why

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 6>people use platforms like coinbase. Right, we offer a self

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 6>custodial app called coin based Wallet, but we also offer

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 6>a website coinbas dot com, in which you know you're

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 6>you're not custody in keys, you're not putting backups, in

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 6>which case there are processes if you forget your password,

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 6>things like that that we can help you as a

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 6>third party, get those funds back. So really is a

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 6>trade off that that everyone should be thinking about where

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<v Speaker 6>they fall on that spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>So there are two different ways of doing it, like

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>where you kind of control the entire situation, or using

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>a third party like a coinbase or another app like

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to be almost your bank or your wallet for this information. Uh, Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>what uh what gets you excited about all this?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's you know? What's keeping you going on this

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<v Speaker 2>crypto stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I've been coining I'm going a coinbase, uh

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 6>about eight and a half years, uh low grade and

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 6>half years now at this point. And there's a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of things that really really excite me. One is just

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 6>the amount of innovation in how financial transaction to work

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 6>and run globally. How quickly this has evolved, how many

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<v Speaker 6>new things are showing up, I think is just a

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<v Speaker 6>true order of magnitude larger than any other time that

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<v Speaker 6>at least certainly the you know that I've been alive,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 6>and I think we can look back in history and

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<v Speaker 6>call it at least one hundred probably more years too,

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<v Speaker 6>And that I think adds ads efficiency, It adds effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 6>It speaks to constituencies that have been historically under unbanked,

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<v Speaker 6>not just in the US, but also globally. Right, the

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 6>idea that a a someone who is who's built a

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 6>thing in Nigeria or in you know, or in South

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 6>America now has the ability through crypto to transact with

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 6>a global audience without having to figure out cross border

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 6>transfers and all that stuff. I don't know if you've

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 6>tried to send money internationally, Rich in the recent past,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 6>but it is it is not an easy proposition. That

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 6>level of economic freedom and opportunity really is unprecedented I

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<v Speaker 6>think in modern history.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're going to leave it there. Very exciting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Coinbase Chief security Officer Philip Martin, thanks so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Rich all right eighty eight rich one O one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, I will tell you about the app that

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<v Speaker 1>transforms your photos into a video clip. I'll explain right

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<v Speaker 1>here on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The

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<v Speaker 1>phone line is eight eight eight rich one oh one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a new feature of the my Heritage app.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the DNA service. Have you ever had your

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<v Speaker 1>DNA done? I did a long time ago. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>in some server somewhere percolating with all my information. Someone

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>someone making another rich on tech out of my DNA somewhere, copy,

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>copy paste, There we go. Why would you want that though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's be real.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a new feature called live Memory. This uses

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<v Speaker 1>AI to turn your photos into a short video clip

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<v Speaker 1>about a five second video clip, complete with like animation

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<v Speaker 1>and not just like the person moving, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation. So if you know it's an old picture

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<v Speaker 1>of like two people getting married, it might show them

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like walking down the aisle a little bit, or like whatever,

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever the image is trying to capture, it

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<v Speaker 1>will kind of move, make that move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried this with a couple of photos of my

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<v Speaker 1>old you know, in my collection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eerie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird, but you know, it's kind of cool.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>You might as well try it out. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>free for about I think three videos you can try

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<v Speaker 1>for free, and if you want to do more than

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that you have to pay. But again, it's called live memory,

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it's from my Heritage. It's inside the iOS or Android app.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Takes a little bit for it to generate because it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally making a video clip, but if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>link to that, you can go to the website.

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<v Speaker 2>Richon tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a watermark on the videos to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>people know that they are AI generated and they're calling

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>them reenactments. So if you have a picture of like

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a kid taking the nineteen fifties on a bike, it

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<v Speaker 1>will show that kid like sort of riding the bike.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to try it out. I mean, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird, you know, but this is the beginning of AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not always perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Let's go to Michelle in Glendale. Michelle,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on with rich Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Hi, I have a question regard I had a

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<v Speaker 3>Yahoo email and then when my accounts were hacked, I

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<v Speaker 3>had to change the password. So when I changed the

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>password back in July, and then when I and then

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 3>after that, when I tried to go into that email,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 3>they said that that password was not was an incorrect password,

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and so they had to ask me to reset the password.

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<v Speaker 3>And I tried to reset the password, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted me they wanted me to put the code, so

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<v Speaker 3>they sent me the code in my text into my phone,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I did, and then they wanted another form

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>of authentication by having to send it to another Google email,

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and that Google email I couldn't also get in because

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>that was also hacked. So I tried all the passwords

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 3>that I could think of and it was exhausted. So

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<v Speaker 3>I want and then they they I called the number

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<v Speaker 3>of Yahoo and they said that I would have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay how much? So I actually didn't ask. I should

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>have asked, but I was when my accounts were severely

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 3>hacked by Router was hacked back in April, including my

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 3>computer phone emails. I was told by the police that

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you're trying to call someone for customer support on

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>a phone number usually begins with eight hundred and they

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>ask you to pay. Don't do it because that's how

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<v Speaker 3>my accounts were scammed back in April.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, this this happens a lot. People google phone

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>numbers and they call whatever the first you know search

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>result that pops up. And a lot of times these

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>scam artists will either buy an AD that has a

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>phone number in the ad. It I'll say, hey, tech

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>support for you know, Spectrum, and I'll have a phone

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>number in there that's a total bogus number, or they'll

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, set up a website and that has a

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>phone number. So that is a good idea. So my

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>question for you is do you need this email account?

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<v Speaker 1>How badly do you need?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing is, I really badly need to retrieve

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 3>into my email because I cannot, okay, because when when

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 3>my accounts were had, I made a report to the

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 3>senior leed officer in the North Hollywood Police station and

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot to print it because and so I need

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<v Speaker 3>that report that I did to him in order to

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 3>add that to my report to FBI, because I was

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 3>told by the when I reported it to Federal Trade Commission,

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>they also told me to also report this what happened,

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, not to FBI. But and I started doing

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>the report to FBI, and one of the things that

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 3>they ask is if I have any documents?

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well it sounds like, okay, sounds like you

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 1>need to get into this email to get a copy

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of your police report. I would also just maybe call

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm looking online at LAPD. It looks like

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>they've got a you know, a Record Records and Identification Division.

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I doubt.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I understand that you probably have the number

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>of the police report, which is probably like key to

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>getting it quickly. But I would call them and see

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 1>if you can get that from them and just tell

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>them your name and information. I'm sure you can get that.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. So

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that's number one. When it comes to the email account,

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know you're wondering about this, Yahoo should you

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>pay to talk to them for the support that they offer?

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So Yahoo, does you know if you need to reset

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>your password? I'm looking at the Yahoo Plus support right

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're actually going to have the Yahoo general manager

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>for email on later in the show and I'll talk

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to him about this. But they offer, you know, free

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>support for the free accounts, but they also have a

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>paid service where you can get a little bit more help,

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and that runs anywhere from about five to ten dollars

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a month. So in this case, it might be worth

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>it if you need to get through to that email address.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But always be careful when calling a randome Hunter number.

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you're on the Yahoo dot com official support

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>site before you call any number and before you pay

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>any money. This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>dot TV. Amazon is bringing back it's driver program where

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you can thank your driver and give them five bucks

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>at no cost to you. So all you have to

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>do is gosh, if I say this on the radio,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna Alex say thank my driver. Or you

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>can just search thank my driver on the Amazon app

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.919
<v Speaker 1>and whoever completed your last delivery will get five bucks. Now,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.439
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind this is limited to the first two

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.439
<v Speaker 1>million thank yous, So when I did it last night,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>they still said your driver got five dollars. So if

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't say that, you know, it only works once,

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>by the way, per customer. I don't think you can

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>do this over and over, but kind of cool. I

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but I actually love the holiday

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>season like I love tipping people.

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I really do.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like this weird thing that I actually I tipped

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>my gardener the other day, and he actually was like,

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you made a mistake.

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>You paid me too much. I said, dude, it's the holidays.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I go enjoy the money, Like come on, like, how

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>do you like don't you know, just enjoy it? Like

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>people well, you know, they're taking a back sometimes with

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, a generosity during this holiday season. So I

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>don't I find it really fun. I really do. I

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>find it like I save money throughout the year so

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that I can tip people at the end of the year,

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just love that, Like it's like a direct

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>smile that you get from them because of what you're doing.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, people aren't necessarily used to it anymore. You know,

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>people are always trying to you know, we're so used to

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that tipping at like a you know, someone grabs a

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.720
<v Speaker 1>muffin from behind the counter and then they flip around

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the screen and they expect to tip. That part I

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>can be angry about, right, but I could still enjoy

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>tipping people that I feel help me. And so there's

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a difference there, right, Like that kind of that

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 1>forced tip versus the enjoyable tip. So anyway, there you go, Alex, say,

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 1>thank my driver. You can send them a tip, and

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. We went to the new Into It Dome

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>here in Los Angeles. The newest arena is called the

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Into It Dome. It's the home of the Clippers, and

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like super high tech. I mean, obviously Into It

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>is a Techi come company. Steve Balmer is the owner

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Clippers, and so he's a very techy guy,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the founders of Microsoft. And so

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this was a very tech forward arena. And finally had

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the it just opened, I don't know, a couple months ago,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe just had the opportunity to go. But here's a thing.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>It's almost too techy even for my taste. Let me

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>explain why when you get a ticket to this arena,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you cannot just number one.

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>There's no paper.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Tickets anymore for any arena, right, It's like everything's digital.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Everything is tracked through ticket Master and all these different

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>ticketing things. It's all like that. And by the way,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't even use a screen capture. It has to

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be like the actual like live barcode. Like if you

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>look at some of these ticket barcodes, there's like a

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>kit like night rider like thing moving across the barcode

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>every second saying like, don't you dare try to screenshot.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 2>This is not gonna work.

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>And so with this particular into it dome, you have

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to sign up, download their app, sign up for an account,

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and then link your ticket Master account and then everything

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>happens through the app. So you got to give a

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>all of your information like your date of birth, your nickname,

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and just your face if you want. I think the

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>face is optional for facial recognition throughout the place. But

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do that, you have to add their

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>card to your digital wallet. So like if you have

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Apple Wallet or Google Wallet, you have to add like

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a card so that you can tap for that. So

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like this whole big thing and you have to

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>save your payment method. I mean, it's a really it's

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a little invasive if you ask me. But and so

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I kind of grumbled. But then here's once you get

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>your tickets. So, for instance, we had four tickets to

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the event. Once you open up your tickets in the app,

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it says, by the way, every single person must have

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>their own phone with their own ticket on that phone.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, what even my kids? So there

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>is an option very small print that says you can

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>designate someone as a like a what was it called

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.919
<v Speaker 1>dependent I think, and you can assist them by using

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>your phone to scan their ticket, which of course I

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>did for my whole family. I was like, they're not

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask any questions, like come on. But anyway, once

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>you get into the actual arena, it's amazing, and I

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>understand all the technology because everything is sort of that

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>like just walk out technology where you go and you

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 1>grab something off a shelf and it recognizes either your

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>face or your phone and it charges the payment method

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on record. Now, not everyone's gonna like that, but it

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>is cool. And I noticed too there's a lot of

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>cameras everywhere, so the facial recognition is like off the

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>charts at this place, which, again, it's cool, it's different,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>it's unique. But as a person who is a lover

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of technology but also kind of critical of technology at

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the same time, I can understand why every single person

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that walks into this place would not want all of

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>their information in some sort of database somewhere, which at

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, what do you think that's

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be used for. It's gonna be to market

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff to you, right in a million different ways. So anyway,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but once you're in there, really really cool, and it

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>did use my nickname when I scan my phone, it

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, welcome rich On Tech, and I thought

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty cool. So have some fun with your

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>with your nickname there. Let's go to Kathy in uh Linnwood. Kathy,

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You're on with.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 8>Rich Hi rich On Tech. How are you?

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I am doing fantastic? How are you?

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 8>I'm I'm hanging in.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>There, hanging in there. Oh no, okay, let's let's talk.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you need to help with?

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 8>Okay, I have a challenge. I am trying to figure

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 8>out what is the best thing for me to do

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 8>right now. Both my daughter and I heard you speaking

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 8>of the I don't know how new it is. I'm

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 8>going to say new a I Meta ray band.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, okay.

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 8>So, but you also had mentioned something that that there

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 8>is a couple other companies but the specialty I wear,

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 8>but that the ray bands were the cheapest. So I

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 8>started looking into those, which I have an inherited eye

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 8>disease that at this particular point in my life I

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 8>still can see, but it's very difficult. I'm considered legally blind.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, this is something that recently happened like that developed.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, inherited. Okay, it's got this weird name. It's called

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 8>Retinitis pigmentosa.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well say that ten times fast.

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 8>I know RP for short.

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go. It's much easier to say.

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 8>So my challenge is, you know, I was trying to

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 8>learn about these ray bands and I have Can I

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 8>say the insurance comempany sure Kaiser permanente Okay, I've heard

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 8>of them, Okay. So I have been seeing their I

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 8>specialists for like five years. It's been a progressive thing

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 8>and they're low vision specialist. And I called a couple

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 8>of days ago and nobody knew anything about these AI

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 8>meta ray bands. So I have been educating them. Even

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:39.720
<v Speaker 8>the low vision specialists that I see didn't know anything

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 8>about it.

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Really wow, Yeah, she.

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 8>Had to ask her manager about it. They all turned

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 8>me down, even though I told them that it should

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 8>be a durable medical equipment.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see you're talking for for sort of like

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a uh uh where they cover the cost of these glasses.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 8>Right, okay, because I you know, this would help my life.

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 8>And I'm actually in a group on Facebook called Retinitis

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 8>Pigmentosa okay, and it's people who have this inherited eye

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 8>disease and they're from all over the world.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Gotta love technology, right, Yeah, yeah, that's an incredible uh connection.

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 8>People are so excited about it, and they're getting them

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 8>and actually some of the people their insurance companies are

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 8>paying for it. Oh wow, yeah etna.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well here here's the deal. So we're run out

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of time, so I think you're you're okay. So Number one, yes,

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that the smart glasses from ray Ban Meta

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they are not marketed as a medical device, but I

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>think people are finding a lot of use in them

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>as something that can really the visually impaired, right, So

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's number one, is that these haven't been

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>made as an FDA approved medical device.

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>That's number one.

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>There are other companies that are working on these types

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of glasses that are specifically for assistance for the visually impaired,

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're thousands of dollars versus the ray Band Metas,

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>which are a couple hundred dollars. What I would do is,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I would I think that there's a gray area here, Kathy,

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>where you can probably make your case for these glasses

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and get the reimbursement but I think the problem is,

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know this, but I feel like the

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 1>insurance companies are working under a framework from the government

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>perhaps of what they're allowed to reimburse on what they're not.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>But maybe I would say, if you just push and

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 1>push and push, you can get it through. But I'm

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>not a medical expert, so I don't know. The other

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is that you know, again, the price is not

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 1>that expensive, so maybe do something like a GoFundMe or

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, collection, or it is the holidays coming up,

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>friends and family, maybe all chip in to get to

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a pair of these glasses. Uh, you know, about three

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars for those glasses, so compared to

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the thousands of dollars that these other glasses cost. You know,

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that's a great, you know, a great savings there. So

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<v Speaker 1>but also check out you know, chat GPT and and

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>write some letters. Come up with you know, talk to

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>chat GIBT and say, hey, look, I'm trying to convince

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>my insurance company to pay for these glasses or to

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<v Speaker 1>reimburse me, and see what it comes up with. It

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<v Speaker 1>may come up with some pretty compelling letters that you

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<v Speaker 1>may able may be able to send to your insurance

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>company and you know, stay on them and see what

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>you can do about it. But yes, the ray Band

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Meta smart glasses very very incredible, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>only going to get better. And I did see the

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<v Speaker 1>be my Eyes integration in them in addition to the

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>other stuff they do that's in the app now as

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like a you know, a beta thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much Kathy for the question there in Lynwood, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>bring you direct to the show notes. This week, Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>completed their two point three billion dollar acquisition of Visio,

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>so Walmart now owns Visio. They're going to continue to

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>let this company operate separately, but you're gonna see a

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of synergy. Number One, when you walk into a

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Walmart story, you'll see a lot of Visio TVs these

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>in the upcoming days. So why does Walmart want Visio?

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<v Speaker 1>Walt all about advertising? Visio has a very robust AD

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>system that they build into their televisions. They also have

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this smart cast, which is their free AD supported streaming platform.

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Many other companies have these as well. Amazon, I think

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is probably the biggest competition here in Roku, and so

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this will position Walmart to compete with them a little

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>bit more closely because guess what, When Walmart knows what

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you're watching, they can target more promotions to you, and

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they know what you're shopping for in the store.

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 2>So you see, there's a lot of synergy there now.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I think for consumers, the good news is that Visio,

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>which has already been very very affordable over the years,

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>will probably continue to get even more affordable because now

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>they've got Walmart, one of the biggest logistics in supply

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>chain folks in the world. They will find some ways

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to save money on manufacturing these TVs and getting them

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>into all the stores, and so I think as a consumer,

0:49:57.160 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the Visio product will be even less expensive. But again,

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>this is all kind of to go up against Amazon.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I was watching Thursday Night football and every single ad

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is a QR code or some kind of thing that

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you can scan or shop. It's all about shoppable. So

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>tracking and shopping is the name of the game. Bobo

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 1>question from the class.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, from the class, mister Demiro. I was wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 2>so would that mean Target stop selling video or Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>stop selling video?

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's a good question because you know it's in videos.

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Like they just paid two point three billion dollars for

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 1>this company. Yeah, and so of course they don't want

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to be in less places. So I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to sell these TVs because if you think

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>about it, Amazon products are in all those stores as well.

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>You go into a I don't know about Walmart. I

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 1>don't if they have fire TV in Walmart, but they

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Actually that doesn't make sense now that I think about it. Walmart,

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 1>why would they want to stock a fire TV exactly

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>if you have your own TV brand now. But I

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>think in Target specifically, they do sell Amazon stuff, and

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a big competitor to Target and Best Buy. Yeah,

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's an interesting question. Really good uh really

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>gold star for you Bobo today.

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<v Speaker 2>Great question.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's you know, it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>if they stop selling these TVs and other places, that's

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>not a good thing because they paid so much for

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 1>this acquisition. Uh eighty eight Rich one on one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to uh Dustin in Hermosa beach. Dustin, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich?

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<v Speaker 6>What stop? Rich, Bobo?

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<v Speaker 10>How's it going Fellas?

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're doing great. What what can we help you with?

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>So I've been like metal detecting on the beach and

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 9>I've been trying to stream.

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>It, right, okay, Well that's interesting.

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 9>Get like no service out there, so I start lagging.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm wondering, So I bought this like Nighthawk M

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 9>six tether hotspot, right okay. But then I'm like wondering

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 9>if should I just get starlink because they got a

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 9>sale right now, Like what would you wreck?

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<v Speaker 10>Men?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how would you get starlink?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you are you doing this like in

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>front of a place you have on the beach, or

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is this like mobile.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just mobilely just walking around, you know, just walking

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<v Speaker 9>around the beach and want to stream.

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>And you're streaming.

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So is this like a YouTube channel you have or

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a TikTok or something that you're doing.

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm doing it on TikTok and I added him

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 9>put on YouTube and Instagram and stuff.

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And do you find some cool stuff?

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 9>No, not yet, but now I've had a couple of rings.

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 9>But you know, it's usually like bottle caps and stuff

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 9>like that. But it's fun, you know.

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, here's my question. I don't know if you

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.839
<v Speaker 1>can walk around with a starlink. That is the main thing.

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Because and by the way, cell phone signal on beaches

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 1>around Los Angeles is notoriously horrific because guess what if

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you got a ten million dollar house on the beach,

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you probably don't want that. You know, cell phone tower

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 1>right near your house. They call that nimby, not in

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.439
<v Speaker 1>my backyard. And here's the thing I would Knownumber one.

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I would try the different providers. You've got three different

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>providers here in the US. I'm not sure which one

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you're using Dustin, but you know, if you're using t mobile,

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>check out at and t checkout Verizon and also see

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 1>which one works. Ask the neighbors in that area which

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>one works the best. But as far as I know,

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 1>even the smallest starlink I don't think is meant to

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>be walked around with. However, since you have a YouTube channel,

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a project for you. Maybe try it out.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>See if you can get a little set up. Or

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe you just set up the starlink on a little

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>trailer thing and leave it on the beach while you

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.280
<v Speaker 1>walk around. Lots of ideas. Sounds like a fun business.

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<v Speaker 1>This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford's twenty twenty four word of the Year is brain raw.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking about. I call this nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids. You know the stuff they watch on

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>YouTube shorts where they're just flipping through over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like all this like nonsense stuff that they watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But brain raw is the decline in mental or intellectual

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<v Speaker 1>capacity resulting from excessive consumption of trivial or unchallenging online content.

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<v Speaker 1>increased by two hundred and thirty percent in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>driven by low quality digital media It was first recorded

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty four by Henry David Thoreaux in Walden. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about brain rop back then, they brain rot

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty four. Wow, that's wild. But now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's all this stuff. You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you just flip through and it's like stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't need to know, or stuff you really

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to see, but you watch it anyway and

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<v Speaker 1>it just rots your brain. It offers no advantage to

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<v Speaker 1>knowing this information or to seeing it. Newport Institute Healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>provider says brain rot is mental fogginess and reduced attention

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<v Speaker 1>span due to excessive screen time. Now that I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely noticed the reduced attention span, even in myself,

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone. It's like we want everything summarized now,

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<v Speaker 1>we want everything to be quick, short and easy. But

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<v Speaker 1>there you have it. Brain rot twenty twenty four Word

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. All right, let's see here. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a great guest on Yahoo Male. This is a very

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>popular email program. It's gone through a lot of changes recently.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It's got a new look, a new feel, new AI features,

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and here to talk about all of it. Is Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>Male's general manager, Rob Gelic.

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<v Speaker 10>Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 11>Hey Rich, how are you? Thanks for having me.

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I am doing fantastic and thanks for being on. So

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>let's talk First off, Yahoo Male. I mean, obviously this

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>has been around for a very long time. What is

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of new and different about it from the big

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>picture side of things?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you're right, I mean we Yahoo Male definitely, you know,

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 12>one of the more established emails out there. One in

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 12>three American adults still visit Yahoo Male each month, right,

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 12>were the number two email service out there. And recently

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.439
<v Speaker 12>we've been on a i'd just say an innovation role,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 12>a lot of new features, leveraging things like AI but

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.240
<v Speaker 12>AI to solve real problems for users.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah okay, But now before we get into that, I know,

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because you guys are you know, like you said, the

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the largest email providers out there. Some other sources,

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<v Speaker 1>like users have been migrated to you, right from like

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>SBC or AT and T or Cox. Can you touch

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>upon that, like, explain because I get a lot of

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>emails from people like, hey, Rich, my email provider moved

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to Yahoo. I don't know how to log in anymore.

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Can you explain, like how to like, how do you

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>move your stuff over?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, So for for users that we're originally getting their

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 12>email from one of our partners like a Cox or

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 12>an AT and T, we're in partnership with them to

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.279
<v Speaker 12>move their email over to Yahoo. So the great thing

0:56:57.360 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 12>there is those relationships are being built so that people

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 12>get the high quality service that Yahoo offers, and our

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 12>partners recognize that in their original services. But change is hard.

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 12>So what when people are who are used to a

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 12>specific email service need to make that change. Sometimes that

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 12>transition needs a lot of care. And when we move

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 12>people over, a lot of what we do is kind

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 12>of white glove them through the process of getting signed

0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 12>in with their original credentials, creating their own version of

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 12>a Yahoo account, and us pourting over what their mail is.

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 12>So for the most part, that's a seamless experience for users.

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And so the bottom line is that you just basically

0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>go to Yahoo Mail and kind of log in with

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>your old account credentials and it will kind of recognize

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that and saying, oh, you're coming from SBC or you're

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 1>coming from Cox, and it will kind of walk you

0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>through the process.

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<v Speaker 11>That's absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, the partners will redirect the user over to Yahoo

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 12>will prompt them to log in with their current credentials.

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 12>They have an option to update those credentials like put

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 12>in a new password, and when they open it, they'll

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 12>see the Yahoo Experience and their mail will be waiting

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 12>for them.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that is very important to know because I think

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>people probably get tripped up on the they're looking at the

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yahoo website, but they're logging in with their old information,

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and so that makes much more sense. So let's talk

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>about some of these new features, like what you know,

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what specific AI features are you talking about with the

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>new Yahoo Male Experience.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, we have like the biggest desktop redesign in a

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<v Speaker 12>decade for Yahoo just recently, and many of those features

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<v Speaker 12>have just been released on our iOS app.

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<v Speaker 11>We're really focused rich.

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 12>On an app experience to help people stay organized and

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<v Speaker 12>on top of things. We know that it can be

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<v Speaker 12>overwhelming going into your inbox. We've all had those moments

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 12>where you come in and there's just so much there.

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<v Speaker 12>So a lot of our AI powered features are really

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 12>focused on solving those problems where we're matching these kind

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 12>of tangible problems people are having with real solutions.

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<v Speaker 11>And so I'll give you an example, so we've added a.

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<v Speaker 12>New Priority inbox tab that automatically highlights the most important

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<v Speaker 12>messages for you. And this compliments what is the all

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 12>email view that users are used to looking at. We

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 12>keep both in there, so if you prefer the traditional

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 12>way of browsing, or you prefer this new Priority inbox

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<v Speaker 12>that sorts out let's say some of the noise for you,

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<v Speaker 12>those are now available for you. And with the Priority Inbox,

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<v Speaker 12>we've added a number of really cool features.

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<v Speaker 11>We have quick action buttons that allows users, without needing.

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<v Speaker 12>To actually open the email, do things like copying onlock

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 12>code that they got for an account, or check in

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<v Speaker 12>for a flight, or one click track where a package

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<v Speaker 12>that you're expecting to be delivered is all with a

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<v Speaker 12>single tap and all without needing to open that email.

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<v Speaker 12>You can do it directly from your Priority Inbox list view,

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<v Speaker 12>which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're you're also summarizing emails as well.

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<v Speaker 12>We are, so in that specific view we are previewing

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<v Speaker 12>message contents, so the ideal, the core idea of that

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<v Speaker 12>message is getting captured in this really brief summary that

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<v Speaker 12>we provide inline.

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<v Speaker 11>As you're looking through your emails, it's.

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<v Speaker 12>Been a way to give an alternative for people that

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<v Speaker 12>to use the original title of the email, to switch

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<v Speaker 12>that out with something that more concretely summarizes everything that's

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<v Speaker 12>in that note.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's interesting. That's so you can have it

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<v Speaker 1>take over kind of the whole subject line.

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<v Speaker 12>Correct, So we have both options if someone prefers those

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<v Speaker 12>original and we know we have senders where that's really

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<v Speaker 12>important to them.

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<v Speaker 11>Users have that whole view where they.

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<v Speaker 12>Can see the original subject, where they can get these

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<v Speaker 12>one line summaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this idea of the gamified experience for cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>up old emails.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds fun.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>One of the things that is interesting about it is

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<v Speaker 12>we noticed this behavior when people are looking at their email,

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<v Speaker 12>where they really are trying to quickly sort through the

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<v Speaker 12>stuff that's valuable, even if I'm not going to open

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<v Speaker 12>it in the moment. They want to park it and

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<v Speaker 12>clean out the stuff that they really think is a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit noise or less important to them. So we've

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<v Speaker 12>created a mode within the mobile app today that allows

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<v Speaker 12>us to feature items within your email. It's like twenty

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<v Speaker 12>five emails at a time, and the prompts to lead

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<v Speaker 12>something on red delete it archive it are much more

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<v Speaker 12>prominent as part of the user experience, so people can

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<v Speaker 12>quickly go through emails within seconds.

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<v Speaker 11>And at the end of this mode.

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<v Speaker 12>When you're done cleaning out your inbox, we give you

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<v Speaker 12>a little prompt like at the end. That's a nice

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<v Speaker 12>little game experience. It says, oh, hey, you went through

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<v Speaker 12>twenty five emails in eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a nice little entertainment piece.

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<v Speaker 12>It helps reinforce there's some sense of accomplishment that you're

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<v Speaker 12>staying on top of your emails and really being organized.

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<v Speaker 11>Our users have loved it so far.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite things with organizing my email, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of it, is when I get

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<v Speaker 1>an email that I know I have like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of other ones that are similar, I will kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like filter for all those and then select them and

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<v Speaker 1>then delete them all at the same time. And it

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<v Speaker 1>gives me a lot of satisfaction. Now, what about Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>male kind of managing other email accounts? I know you

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<v Speaker 1>told me you can use it for like Gmail and Outlook, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can I just use the Yahoo email interface for my

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<v Speaker 1>other email accounts?

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 12>Richmond, that's like the perfect way to phrase that We've

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<v Speaker 12>made it really easy for users to bring their existing

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<v Speaker 12>email to Yahoo. And actually, in recent months we've seen

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<v Speaker 12>about a one hundred and twenty five percent increase in

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<v Speaker 12>desktop users connecting their Gmail to their Yahoo mail accounts

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<v Speaker 12>just because how we've set it up as part of

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<v Speaker 12>the onboarding process.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's my question with that. Let's say I bring

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say I have an account somewhere else and I

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to Yahoo. Is it sort of like interfacing

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<v Speaker 1>with that other account, Like any changes I make, does

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<v Speaker 1>that happen on the back end with the other email?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are my emails imported into Yahoo as well? And

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<v Speaker 1>like a new organization.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, there's a standard handshake between the different services that

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<v Speaker 12>the industry at large uses. It's called IMAP, and that's

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<v Speaker 12>exactly what that does. It keeps your email, even though

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<v Speaker 12>let's say it's offered through another provider, if you're viewing

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<v Speaker 12>it and managing it through Yahoo, it keeps everything in sync.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, anything else we need to know, we we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to run. But anything else you want to let

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<v Speaker 1>folks know about the new Yahoo mal No, I.

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<v Speaker 12>Mean, we've we've been making great progress. We had just

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<v Speaker 12>on iOS since we've rolled this out. We just had

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<v Speaker 12>our biggest day ever for single single day record for

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<v Speaker 12>daily active users from the iOS app, so we know

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<v Speaker 12>something's working.

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<v Speaker 11>It's out there. These AI features are available if.

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<v Speaker 12>You want and need them, and certainly changing the game

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<v Speaker 12>and towards of people being able to stay on top

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<v Speaker 12>of their their personal emails and definitely appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 11>Rich. We're so excited about the product and we think

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<v Speaker 11>our users will be as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we know where to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo Mail, very simple, Rob Gellick, I know about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but I'm well as GM of

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo Male. You probably spend a lot more time in

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<v Speaker 1>email even than I do, and I spend almost my

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<v Speaker 1>whole day in my inbox. So email is very near

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<v Speaker 1>and dear to everyone's heart these days, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely and it definitely is this the central communication to well,

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<v Speaker 12>we're trying to make sure that they're bridging the gap

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<v Speaker 12>across messaging applications to make sure it's the best experience possible.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there you have it, Yahoo Males General Manager

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Gallick, thanks so much for joining me today. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>coming up why Google Maps is getting one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best features of Ways plus your calls coming up right

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<v Speaker 1>here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines are open at triple eight rich one O one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. I do appreciate you hanging out here with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you're learning something. Hopefully you're enjoying the show. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, what more can you ask for?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's go to uh let's see here. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Peter in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 6>Peter, you're on with Hey, Ranch, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing fantastic. What can I help you with?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I've got a phone that I've had for

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<v Speaker 4>about five or six years that I like a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Samsung Galaxy Note nine. The best feature of

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<v Speaker 4>this phone is that I can put a memory card in.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I basically got an endless memory. So I have not

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to get rid of this phone, but I'm now

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<v Speaker 4>starting to have problems. I got a message I had

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<v Speaker 4>this app. I got a message the other day telling

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<v Speaker 4>me I needed to update the app. I went to

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<v Speaker 4>the play Store and I found the app and it

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<v Speaker 4>deleted it uninstalled the a version I had in there.

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<v Speaker 4>But then I got a message telling me that my

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<v Speaker 4>phone is not compatible with a new version and I

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<v Speaker 4>can't download it. I've now had that happen twice. And

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<v Speaker 4>I come to find that I've got Android version ten

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<v Speaker 4>and apparently my phone is telling me I've got the

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<v Speaker 4>latest version available, and I don't think Android is supporting

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<v Speaker 4>this phone anymore due to the age. I was cold.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a workaround for that, and I was hoping that

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<v Speaker 4>you might have some info, h a workaround.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not aware of a workaround. I'm looking up the

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<v Speaker 1>phone was this Yeah, this was launched in August twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>The support for it ended on September seventh, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're definitely outside the support time. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this phone. I remember it has a fingerprint reader on

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<v Speaker 1>the backside.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>That looked yeah, great, great phone, wonderful phone.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it was the last Samsung to have

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<v Speaker 1>the micro SD card slot, which is a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you really like about it. So here's the thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really I'm trying to think unless you unless you

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<v Speaker 1>put your own system on here somehow I don't, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is very complicated and I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 1>how you do that. You know, there might be like

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<v Speaker 1>a rom that you can put on here.

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<v Speaker 4>That there are some YouTube videos and how to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's a little bit it's my skill set, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I used to do that back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and even for someone who's like really into it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot. And by the way, once you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, a lot of things don't work on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone anymore, you know, like you all the little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's optimized because Samsung comes up with this software and

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<v Speaker 1>also this is a you know, you'd have to unlock

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<v Speaker 1>the bootloader on this phone. I mean, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>steps that like I can't sit here and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>on a mainstream show to like go ahead and try

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, because it's just it's just not like

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<v Speaker 1>a thing for the you know, the average person to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, is.

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<v Speaker 4>There a let me ask you this, is there an

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<v Speaker 4>Android phone out there that does have a training that

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<v Speaker 4>I can put a memory card on that's his fully

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<v Speaker 4>featured as this phone. I tell you I've been through

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of phones over the year. I've not kept

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<v Speaker 4>the phone as long as this one. This phone has

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<v Speaker 4>just been magnificent. And the only problem I'm having, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't update these apps, and consequently I can't

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<v Speaker 4>use apps with certain companies retailers and restaurants and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all for security reasons and also support reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying that this the last support on this

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<v Speaker 1>is Android ten, which you know we're up to Android

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen now, So I mean, you know, these companies that

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<v Speaker 1>make apps, they you know, they do support for a

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<v Speaker 1>decent amount of time. And by the way, the newer

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<v Speaker 1>phones are now, the Android phones specifically the Samsung's and

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<v Speaker 1>the Google phones are now getting like seven years of updates.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a good thing that we're seeing more updates.

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<v Speaker 1>But this phone specifically was sort of before that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of happened. And it does get a little tricky now

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to an SD card on a phone,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I really have not reviewed a phone

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<v Speaker 1>that has an SD card in a long time because

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't make them like that anymore. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see the only phone that I've seen that's

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<v Speaker 1>come out in the past year or so is from

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<v Speaker 1>a company called Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of them?

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<v Speaker 4>I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they actually make a phone called the CMF Phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the CMF is actually their lesser expensive brand, and

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<v Speaker 1>they make a phone it's not very expensive, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does have a expandable storage up to two terabytes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it does have the recent operating system. The thing about

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<v Speaker 1>this phone is it's a very budget phone, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really you know, you may are do you take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pictures?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I take a fair amount of pictures, And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I can understand why they did away with

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<v Speaker 4>the SD card tray because you know, obviously they want

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<v Speaker 4>to sell you memory on the front end.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and more.

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<v Speaker 6>Like this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you could you could just you don't need

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. You can just put in any kind

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<v Speaker 4>of card you want. It was it was just fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I totally understand, and believe me, I it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've covered phones for a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>the micro SD card slot was always a differentiator by

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<v Speaker 1>the way for Android versus iPhone. And of course when

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung did away with that and everyone else did away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It just kind of like became Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the way it is now, and there's no interest

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<v Speaker 1>in the phones having that expandable storage because why would

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<v Speaker 1>you get that when you have you know, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you want that as a phone maker when you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to sell anything above the smallest you know, memory

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<v Speaker 1>size on that device.

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<v Speaker 2>So exactly, I would take a.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this CMF phone and see, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>love nothing. I love their software. I absolutely love their devices.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, like I said, their budget device. You do

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<v Speaker 1>have to jump through a little bit of hoops to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. You got to join their beta program, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a big thing to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>the software is clean, the phone's nice. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>might serve you well. And it's not that expensive. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like under two hundred and fifty bucks CMF phone

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<v Speaker 1>by nothing. Thanks for the call, Peter and san Diego

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<v Speaker 1>more rich on Tech after this. Welcome back to Rich

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<v Speaker 1>John Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at triple eight Rich one on one. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be shy, give me a call. You'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>get through Kim. First, just full disclosure, but once you

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<v Speaker 1>do it is fun. After that, well, it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Kim, but I'm saying you'll get once you

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<v Speaker 1>get through to her, then you can talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The website for the show Rich on tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>There you can get the show notes. Hit the light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb for that, or you can send me an email

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all right there. Very very simple. Google Maps.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been in your car lately, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>noticed something. Google Maps is acting a little different. It

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<v Speaker 1>is giving you these incident reports that you typically would

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<v Speaker 1>get from Ways. So we were driving last weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it popped up and it said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a police ahead, and it said, you know, slow

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<v Speaker 1>down ahead. I said, wait a second to my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>we're using Ways. She goes, no, that's Google Maps. So

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<v Speaker 1>what so yeah, Google Maps this week started to integrate

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<v Speaker 1>Ways incident reports.

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<v Speaker 2>So this means if.

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<v Speaker 1>You are using Google Maps, you're getting more timely updates

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<v Speaker 1>about things happening on the road up ahead, whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>an accident, whether that's a speed camera, police, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>sourced from now Google Maps and Ways. So my kids

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<v Speaker 1>love this because basically it says there's police ahead in

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<v Speaker 1>half a mile, four tenths of a mile, three tents

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<v Speaker 1>of a mile, one hundred feet fifty feet are they

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<v Speaker 1>still there? And my kids love to answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you answer those questions, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>do this in a safe way in your car. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big button yes or no. You're helping other

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<v Speaker 1>drivers in real time. And so this has been something

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<v Speaker 1>that Ways drivers have really enjoyed and really loved sort

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<v Speaker 1>of that community of sharing information in real time. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming to Google Maps. But Google, if you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to merge these two mapping apps even

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<v Speaker 1>though they own both, they say they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to operate them separately. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a preview of a new feature coming to Ways

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<v Speaker 1>where instead of pressing a button at all, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just say to Ways, what is on the road ahead

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<v Speaker 1>in any you know, natural language you want. So typically

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<v Speaker 1>when you do a report, when you file a report

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<v Speaker 1>on Ways, it says, you know, is there an object

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<v Speaker 1>on the road, is there police presence? Is there a crash?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there slow down? Now you can just say, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Heyways or whatever, ladder on the road and

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<v Speaker 1>it will figure out what that is and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make that into a report using AI. So that's coming soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, pretty cool if you notice that, now you're

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on there. So to say no pun intended.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla has officially launched its Apple Watch app. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something that many people who have a Tesla have been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for, and this is the functionality where you can

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<v Speaker 1>use your Apple Watch as a key to lock and

1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.040
<v Speaker 1>unlock your Tesla. You can see your you know your

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<v Speaker 1>charge level, you can adjust your climate control. Now here's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have this on my watch because I got

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<v Speaker 1>it last night, but I have not yet gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>software update for the car, so I can't really use it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's weird because they mentioned in the press stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you can open the frunk from your watch, but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't say anything about the trunk. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if you can actually use this, why

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<v Speaker 1>would they do just the frunk and not the trunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes no sense, So perhaps it will have trunk

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<v Speaker 1>access as well. But anyway, this is a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>because now you can use your Apple Watch to control

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<v Speaker 1>the Tesla. This is something they've had in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had to pay for a third party app

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, So now it's included, it's free. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course this is part of Tesla's twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>holiday update, which also has some other features. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the really, really handy features for folks is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you can now download the dash cam and the

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<v Speaker 1>Century Mode clips to your phone. So it used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Tesla's have like a DVR that's recording

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<v Speaker 1>all the cameras all times, and if you ever get

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<v Speaker 1>into an accident or you ever witnessed something on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and you want to download that, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>pull that USB drive from your car, put it into

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<v Speaker 1>your computer, find the clip, and it was a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you'll be able to just go on your

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<v Speaker 1>phone and download that clip directly to your to your

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<v Speaker 1>photo gallery, and that's going to be so much handier.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole bunch of other features too in the

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla twenty twenty four Holiday update, but I won't bore

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<v Speaker 1>you with all those eighty eight rich one on one

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth and Newport. You've got some follow up questions on

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<v Speaker 1>the Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 11>Guest yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer them because I'm not the Yahoo guy. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what.

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<v Speaker 13>Welp, I actually emailed you and you said make sure

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<v Speaker 13>you you listen on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so I did.

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<v Speaker 13>I missed the very first part. And what I emailed

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<v Speaker 13>you was, I have, you know, an old AT and

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<v Speaker 13>T SBC Global dot ne email. Okay, And but I

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<v Speaker 13>used Yahoo homepage and I have for some years, and

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<v Speaker 13>just a couple of days ago, I get this giant

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<v Speaker 13>banner here that says a change is coming.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, in this page, we'll direct you back to the

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<v Speaker 13>att currently homepage, where you can access mail and stay

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<v Speaker 13>up to date on news, sports, finance, and finance and more.

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<v Speaker 13>Go there now, which I haven't done.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 13>So it sounds like what your guest was talking was

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<v Speaker 13>kind of the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, so these are two completely separate things. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you're talking about a homepage, right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>which basically I'm looking at this currently. Uh It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the my Yahoo, except it's AT and T's version of it.

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<v Speaker 13>So okay, yeah it looks different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks a little different. But everything I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>on there is pretty much powered by Yahoo. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think for you, if you want to continue to use

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<v Speaker 1>the ma Yahoo page. Are you saying, so, is that

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<v Speaker 1>is that going away? Or can you still go to Okay.

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<v Speaker 13>Well that's what it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yep, that's what it is. Okay, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna maya who looks like it's switching over

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<v Speaker 1>to currently from at and T but it's still part

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<v Speaker 1>of that my Yahoo brand. So it's a little confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for you, if you have an account

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got do you have some personalizations on that page? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're all going to just carry over. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it looks like to me when I look at this, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it looks completely different. Like for example, my page

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<v Speaker 13>is blue and it has a block over here and

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<v Speaker 13>different things down the side, and the currently page. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>there's always been issues between the two with the mail

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<v Speaker 13>and some time was a mess. Oh right, you're but

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<v Speaker 13>the currently page, I think is white and it looks

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<v Speaker 13>totally different. Is that what you see when you look

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<v Speaker 13>at it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like I guess there It's funny gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my Yahoo from back in the day. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was like that was like my homepage for

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<v Speaker 1>so many years, because it's like, once you personalize that,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, golden, you had all your

1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff on there at all. So yeah, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>that is changing to something a little bit different through

1:19:08.200 --> 1:19:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the currently from AT and T. It's it's confusing because Yahoo, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they handle things for a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>companies now, and I guess AT and T is one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. But I would I would say, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>when does this say it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, it doesn't what I see it doesn't say, doesn't

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<v Speaker 13>say when.

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<v Speaker 2>It says soon.

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<v Speaker 1>This page will direct you back to the AT and

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<v Speaker 1>T currently homepage, where you can access mail and stay

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<v Speaker 1>up to date. So it looks like they're they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just have a different design, and it looks like some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things will remain the same, like the widgets that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say, Elizabeth, I think you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be prepared for a different look for sure, because it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, yeah, it looks like that's changing just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, But I don't think it's gonna be that

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<v Speaker 1>big of a change because it looks like it's your

1:19:53.520 --> 1:19:56.519
<v Speaker 1>same account, it's just going to be branded differently. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will monitor this and I will also follow up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Yahoo pho and see if I can get

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<v Speaker 1>some more information on this. But I understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we see a big banner that says that change

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<v Speaker 1>is coming, you know, half the people are like like bracing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, ah, bracing for impact. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want this change. Why are you changing things?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure it's some sort of streamlining of their

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<v Speaker 1>business or something that they're doing that is, uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>is making that change happening. So thanks for the call,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Yeah, so my dot Yahoo dot com. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny even today in the year twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>when I go when I test something out, like when

1:20:34.720 --> 1:20:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I when I need to test to see if like

1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>an internet connection is working or whatever it is, my

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<v Speaker 1>first stop is always I just go to Yahoo dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, isn't that like after all these years, that's

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of like the place that I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I ever mention? But but maybe I've mentioned this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that I got a job offer from Yahoo once

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<v Speaker 1>This was back in the day, and this was I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never forget. So it was you know, this was when

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if Yahoo was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>thing or not. Right, so they offered me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working somewhere else and like, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>come to Yahoo? And of course it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>great job, and I had to move to like Sunny

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<v Speaker 1>Vale where they had and of course I get this

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<v Speaker 1>tour of like the Yahoo campus, which was just like

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<v Speaker 1>incredible for someone who worked in local news to go

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<v Speaker 1>from that to like a place where all your food

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<v Speaker 1>was free. They had all these people like playing volleyball

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<v Speaker 1>and these sand volleyball courts and like just showed me

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<v Speaker 1>this brand new studio they had for this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>called Yahoo Finance, that's what they were doing. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course you had like you know, they were paying you

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<v Speaker 1>in like stocks of the company. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. Like the offer was great, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was so concerned that like Yahoo may not be around

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of years that I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take this job, and I didn't, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they're still there. So even though my Yahoo's changing,

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<v Speaker 1>so there take this. I was right about something there

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<v Speaker 1>was a change at Yahoo eighty eight. Oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and the best part of the job offer. They they

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<v Speaker 1>FedEx you this package with all this Yahoo stuff in it,

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<v Speaker 1>like all this like T shirt. I still have the

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt, but when you open the box, it went Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I must have opened that thing like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times before that battery went dead. Eighty eight Rich

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<v Speaker 1>one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. I see the calls. We will

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<v Speaker 1>get to them right after this. Rich on tech dot

1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:23.479
<v Speaker 1>tv is the website to go to. And coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about this Verizon secret deal you might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take advantage of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you about that coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up this hour, we have another guest, Jennifer Twoey

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<v Speaker 1>from The Verge, is going to discuss matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is that smart home standard that sort of been

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<v Speaker 1>like a rough start for it, but supposedly it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make things a lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Verizon, so this is a actually you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just go to Rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Rich in Landa Lakes, Florida. Let's let

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<v Speaker 2>Rich ask this question. He's been on hold for a while. Rich,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>We're Rich.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's take Nicoll really appreciate you and your show. Thank

1:23:13.320 --> 1:23:17.160
<v Speaker 10>you appreciating that a product it's by net Gear, the

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<v Speaker 10>cable modem router combination, utilizing that instead of what Spectrum

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<v Speaker 10>is going to rent here per month. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 10>kind of makes sense because it's going to pay for

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<v Speaker 10>itself and like you know, maybe a little more than

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<v Speaker 10>a year. Want to get your thoughts on that product,

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<v Speaker 10>and also if there are any any drawbacks to doing

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<v Speaker 10>this versus renting, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The main drawback versus renting is that you're responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the equipment. So if something goes wrong with it doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you need tech support, Spectrums going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>hands off, you've got your own equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't really help you there.

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<v Speaker 1>So rit do you know that this equipment is compatible

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<v Speaker 1>with your Internet?

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<v Speaker 10>It is, I mean, at least online it says it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, And what's the what's the price of this.

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<v Speaker 10>One hundred and thirty three bucks?

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<v Speaker 1>So one hundred and thirty three dollars and what are

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<v Speaker 1>they asking for their rental fee every month.

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<v Speaker 10>Ten Well they're selling it as the modems free in

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<v Speaker 10>the routers ten bucks a month, so you know, about

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<v Speaker 10>one hundred twenty bucks a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so about one hundred and twenty So your break

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<v Speaker 1>even is about you know, fourteen months basically, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you moving in that time? Are you thinking of moving?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean, you know, there's really the downside again,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I said, is just basically the you know,

1:24:34.280 --> 1:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>upfront cost which is not that much, and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that if there's any sort of issue with compatibility or

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<v Speaker 1>technical support, they're really not going to help you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're if you're sticking with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to stay in this place and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to have this service, then I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not a bad deal to do this. And

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<v Speaker 1>you just got me. Well, so I don't always look

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<v Speaker 1>at my bill for my internet like I once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while look at the itemized bill only basically when

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<v Speaker 1>it goes up, like it went up last month by

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<v Speaker 1>like five bucks, I'm like, well, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw that my internet service provider actually charges

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fifteen bucks a month for my modem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wait a second, why am I doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've had this same internet probably for ten

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<v Speaker 1>years now at this point, and so I can't even

1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine how much I've paid for this modem that is,

1:25:25.200 --> 1:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, so old at this point, which needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be upgraded in general.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think for the look for.

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<v Speaker 1>The average person, it's it's very simple because the cable

1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>person nowadays everything is like self service and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think they come to install these boxes anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know you could if you needed that help, you

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<v Speaker 1>could get it. But that's the only thing you're giving up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with this is that you just really you know,

1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:49.559
<v Speaker 1>you just have to deal with that side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But sounds like it's gonna be pretty simple. You buy

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, you connect it to your internet, and it

1:25:55.040 --> 1:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>will fire up and that's it. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay that bill for the next you know, indefinite amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, no, okay, I'm gonna give it a shot. Also,

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<v Speaker 10>I want to say I appreciate your your tip on

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<v Speaker 10>the zen book because I bought one. Oh okay, I

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<v Speaker 10>got a really good deal on it, so oh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a good tip. I was just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in the Microcenter. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show where I talked with the micro Center. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to New Jersey and then I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>one out here in California. They've got one in Tustin.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was talking to this guy. We were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a story about computers, and I was like, what brands

1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>do you like? He's like, I really like the asus

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<v Speaker 1>Zen Book. And I was like, oh nice, that's what

1:26:32.680 --> 1:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I recommend it to people. So glad, I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>liking that. Thanks for listening. Down there in Landa Lakes, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>That reminds me of the butter every time? Does everyone

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<v Speaker 1>think that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>But it really it doesn't have anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured, I figured, but I just when I see

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<v Speaker 1>Landa Lakes, it's like that. I just remember growing up

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<v Speaker 1>with that butter. I don't know, it's just there, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Eighty eight rich one on one. Thanks rich

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<v Speaker 1>for the call. There, eight eight eight rich one on one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this Verizon thing I was telling you about, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this will still work, but it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>a try because it's been percolating for a little bit now,

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<v Speaker 1>probably about a week, so Verizon might have gotten hipped

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But the gist of this is that if

1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you go to the section of the website of the

1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Verizon website or the app that lets you unlock your

1:27:17.720 --> 1:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>phone number to leave, they get scared and they give

1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you this ten dollars per month loyalty discount for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I tried this, and I the weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that I don't know if it's automatic or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because I went to this section of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>app and I did find the banner that said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>save ten dollars for twelve months, But then for some reason,

1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>when I went to redeem it, it sent me a

1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>text and it said I had to call Verizon to

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<v Speaker 1>redeem it. So I'm not sure if that's what everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to do or just what I had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is, you open the My Verizon app,

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<v Speaker 1>you navigate to my Access section, and then you look

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<v Speaker 1>for a banner that says save ten dollars a month

1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for twelve months off this line, and then you tap

1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:04.759
<v Speaker 1>check offers and you follow the prompts to redeem the discount.

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<v Speaker 1>No changes to your current planner are necessary and people

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<v Speaker 1>I did post this to my social media at rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech on Instagram, and people did report that it

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<v Speaker 1>did work for them, and like, rich you just saved me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one person said they had like three lines or

1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>four lines. I saved them like times each line. It

1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was like ten dollars per line. Times the whole year,

1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>it was like over four hundred dollars. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, I should take a cut of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm just kidding. I don't mind.

1:28:29.640 --> 1:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind giving this out for free anyway. I

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<v Speaker 1>will put the the source, which is droid Life, great

1:28:35.520 --> 1:28:38.799
<v Speaker 1>website if you like, you know Android side of things.

1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>They were the ones who posted about this. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>the link on the website rich on tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's worth a try ten bucks a month?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Coming up, we

1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about matter and why it matters

1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to your smart home. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

1:28:59.439 --> 1:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Rich Demro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The

1:29:04.040 --> 1:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>website for the show is rich on tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want links to anything I mentioned, just go

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<v Speaker 1>to the website and look for episode number one hundred.

1:29:14.680 --> 1:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Everything I mentioned, including that Verizon loyalty discount I talked about,

1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all linked up there. And by the way, the

1:29:21.680 --> 1:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>website a lot of stuff you can do there. You

1:29:23.640 --> 1:29:26.679
<v Speaker 1>can sign up for my newsletter and you can also

1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>get in touch with me. So if you want to

1:29:28.040 --> 1:29:30.559
<v Speaker 1>send me an email, I can't guarantee that I will

1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:32.599
<v Speaker 1>respond to every one of them, because I do get

1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, but I will do my best

1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:38.439
<v Speaker 1>and rest assured I do read your email. And if

1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:40.599
<v Speaker 1>you want to get something in for this show, We've

1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>got the feedback segment coming up right after this, and

1:29:42.920 --> 1:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I will read some of your feedback from the past

1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:49.519
<v Speaker 1>week or so. All right, Joining me now from the

1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Verge is Jennifer Touey. She is there smart home expert,

1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk about MATTER, this new universal

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<v Speaker 1>standard for connected devices.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi Rich, pleasure to be here.

1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:07.479
<v Speaker 1>So we actually met at an event in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Google event, and I was like, okay, MATTER,

1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>like I've heard of it, I know about it, but

1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I've used it in a meaningful way yet.

1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So I figured you'd be a great person to kind

1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:22.679
<v Speaker 1>of talk about this. What I guess explain? First off?

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<v Speaker 1>What is Matter?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah? Yeah, Well, in a nutshell, MATTA is basically designed

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<v Speaker 14>to try and make the smart home simple, interoperable, reliable,

1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:39.639
<v Speaker 14>and more secure. So great goals, exciting goals. Yeah, they're

1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:44.519
<v Speaker 14>working towards them. The reason you haven't probably got much

1:30:44.560 --> 1:30:47.200
<v Speaker 14>experience with Matter yet is because it's still relatively new,

1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:51.479
<v Speaker 14>so it's still developing. But the goal is to create

1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:53.960
<v Speaker 14>or it is creating, an open source standard for the

1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:57.080
<v Speaker 14>smart home, and it's being created by over two hundred companies,

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<v Speaker 14>including Apple, Amazon, Samsung, Google, Lgirobot, Verizon, like all the companies,

1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:08.439
<v Speaker 14>so everyone's involved in trying to make this happen, which

1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:12.240
<v Speaker 14>is why it feels like, unlike perhaps other protocols and

1:31:12.320 --> 1:31:15.160
<v Speaker 14>standards that have come and gone, that this one sort

1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:17.519
<v Speaker 14>of has some legs and it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Going to get somewhere.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's a communication and intero interoperability protocol.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry it's Saturday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 14>And it leverages existing technologies, which is one of another

1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:33.360
<v Speaker 14>reason why it should be relatively simple to implement. It

1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:37.439
<v Speaker 14>uses something called thread, Wi Fi, Bluetooth, and Ethernet and

1:31:37.479 --> 1:31:39.720
<v Speaker 14>it will allow all of your smart home devices to

1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:42.960
<v Speaker 14>talk with each other locally over your own home network

1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:46.639
<v Speaker 14>without relying on the Internet, and also to be able

1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:49.439
<v Speaker 14>to talk to any smart home platform that also works

1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:52.400
<v Speaker 14>with Matter. So you can use Apple Home if you like,

1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:54.280
<v Speaker 14>or you can then just say okay, no, now I

1:31:54.320 --> 1:31:56.600
<v Speaker 14>want to try Google Home. Or if you have an

1:31:56.640 --> 1:31:59.960
<v Speaker 14>iPhone and your spouse has a pixel phone, you can.

1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:03.920
<v Speaker 7>Both control your smart light bulb or you're smart door lock.

1:32:03.800 --> 1:32:08.040
<v Speaker 14>Without having to fight over which ecosystem you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, there's a lot to break down.

1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So first off, you mentioned that it's like two

1:32:12.880 --> 1:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred companies other any notable holdouts, like any companies that

1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>are not participating that are like major companies.

1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>No, not really, Okay, so that's a good thing.

1:32:21.640 --> 1:32:25.280
<v Speaker 7>So that's I mean, everyone's got a foot in the door.

1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:30.040
<v Speaker 14>Okay, some have an entire body and others maybe just

1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:32.000
<v Speaker 14>have a teeny little little toe.

1:32:32.120 --> 1:32:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but that's good.

1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:34.599
<v Speaker 7>There's some more involved than others.

1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:38.479
<v Speaker 1>So this, as I'm understanding, sounds like it would replace

1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>all those like hundreds of stickers on a smart home

1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:44.479
<v Speaker 1>product that like oh works with home Kit works with

1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Alexa works with Google Home, like this would this would

1:32:47.960 --> 1:32:51.639
<v Speaker 1>be one standard that when you see Matter, you're like, okay, cool.

1:32:51.720 --> 1:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>As long as I've got matter, matter here, matter there,

1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it all works together.

1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:57.360
<v Speaker 7>That is the ultimate goal.

1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:00.960
<v Speaker 14>Though we're probably gonna have those because for a while,

1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:05.280
<v Speaker 14>because you know, people we got used to them. So

1:33:05.479 --> 1:33:08.920
<v Speaker 14>but yes, if you see a Matter logo which kind

1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:12.160
<v Speaker 14>of looks like a bikini bottoms on a stick man,

1:33:16.280 --> 1:33:18.439
<v Speaker 14>but anyway, you'll never you'll never picture it any other

1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:19.040
<v Speaker 14>way after that.

1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:23.440
<v Speaker 7>But yes, you see if you see a Matter.

1:33:23.240 --> 1:33:26.280
<v Speaker 14>Logo on a product in theory, and the goal is

1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:28.360
<v Speaker 14>that that means it will work with any of the

1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:31.280
<v Speaker 14>big smart home platforms and many other smart home platforms

1:33:31.280 --> 1:33:34.280
<v Speaker 14>that have come on board with Matter. But we're still

1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:37.760
<v Speaker 14>seeing those works with badges as their cord, like works

1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:40.439
<v Speaker 14>with Apple Home, works with Google Home, because again, you know,

1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:42.519
<v Speaker 14>consumers have got used to them, and if they're not

1:33:42.640 --> 1:33:45.719
<v Speaker 14>there then they think, oh that means it doesn't.

1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:47.679
<v Speaker 7>So once it's going to take a while, I think

1:33:47.680 --> 1:33:49.080
<v Speaker 7>for that to that sort of.

1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:53.519
<v Speaker 14>To permeate the consumer landscape to sort of understand that

1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:56.439
<v Speaker 14>this is what matter means. But ultimately, yes, we should

1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:59.840
<v Speaker 14>just have one little sticker and not fifteen different ones.

1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So where are we at with this standard, like our

1:34:04.280 --> 1:34:07.679
<v Speaker 1>products supporting it, our people, like, is the public aware

1:34:07.720 --> 1:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of this? Are we looking for this sticker yet? And

1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know how far along are we?

1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:18.880
<v Speaker 14>So it launched two years ago and almost to the

1:34:18.920 --> 1:34:21.920
<v Speaker 14>month I think it was well November, and that was

1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:24.800
<v Speaker 14>the launch of the actual specification, which is what the

1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:27.479
<v Speaker 14>companies then used to go and develop products for it.

1:34:28.080 --> 1:34:32.479
<v Speaker 7>So two years in and we actually quite far in

1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:33.040
<v Speaker 7>terms of.

1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:35.800
<v Speaker 14>The different types of devices it supports, which is key

1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:38.599
<v Speaker 14>because if you want to be able to use everything

1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:41.320
<v Speaker 14>in your smart home on one protocol, then every different

1:34:41.360 --> 1:34:44.439
<v Speaker 14>type of device needs to be supported. So now we're

1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:49.440
<v Speaker 14>basically not critical mass, but close to smart lights, locks,

1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:54.960
<v Speaker 14>sensors and shades and blinds, smart switches, smart plugs, robot vacuums,

1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:59.800
<v Speaker 14>home appliances, TVs, your thermostat, and most recently they added

1:34:59.800 --> 1:35:03.120
<v Speaker 14>a lot of home energy management devices like solar panels,

1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:06.719
<v Speaker 14>ev charges, battery storage systems in your home.

1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:09.040
<v Speaker 7>So there are a lot of device types supported.

1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:14.000
<v Speaker 14>There are a few very notable missing, I mean the

1:35:14.040 --> 1:35:17.200
<v Speaker 14>biggest one being security cameras, things like video door bells

1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:21.240
<v Speaker 14>and cameras. You might put around your home for security

1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:22.799
<v Speaker 14>or inside your home.

1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:24.080
<v Speaker 7>To watch your pet.

1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:27.760
<v Speaker 14>Those are not part of the standard yet, although the

1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:30.680
<v Speaker 14>Connectivity Standards Alliance, who is the organization that's sort of

1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:34.800
<v Speaker 14>herding all the cats here and making this happen, they

1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:38.679
<v Speaker 14>are working on adding security cameras. Then the other one

1:35:38.800 --> 1:35:43.200
<v Speaker 14>is security systems. So like you're ADT or you're simply safe,

1:35:43.600 --> 1:35:47.040
<v Speaker 14>those are not part of matter. Doesn't look like it's

1:35:47.040 --> 1:35:49.719
<v Speaker 14>necessarily in the roadmap that we may sort of see

1:35:49.880 --> 1:35:52.479
<v Speaker 14>sort of integration at some point down the line. So

1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:56.160
<v Speaker 14>but yeah, it's made a lot of progress in terms

1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:59.639
<v Speaker 14>of the CSA saying, look, people that make these devices,

1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:00.679
<v Speaker 14>you can use matter.

1:36:01.200 --> 1:36:04.360
<v Speaker 7>What we're kind of waiting on now is more.

1:36:04.160 --> 1:36:08.360
<v Speaker 14>Manufacturers to actually start developing products with matter. We see

1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:12.080
<v Speaker 14>a lot of smart lights and locks and sensors and

1:36:12.160 --> 1:36:15.000
<v Speaker 14>plugs and switches, but we have not seen a lot

1:36:15.040 --> 1:36:19.600
<v Speaker 14>of home appliances where I got vacuums, TV's them, stats,

1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:23.600
<v Speaker 14>those devices that actually haven't traditionally been part of the

1:36:23.640 --> 1:36:24.200
<v Speaker 14>smart home.

1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:26.920
<v Speaker 7>But Matt who is sort of looking to help bring

1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:27.439
<v Speaker 7>them in.

1:36:28.360 --> 1:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, well, if he's coming along, here's something

1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm always confused about. So you've got matter and

1:36:35.000 --> 1:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>then you also have thread, So like are they the same?

1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Like what Like I'm looking at the Apple TV four

1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>K it says thread networking technology. Does that mean it

1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>supports matter? And do I what do I need to

1:36:45.800 --> 1:36:48.240
<v Speaker 1>like have like a matter hub or like start with

1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this stuff? Like do I get you know, I assume

1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>if you have a light bulb, but you have no

1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like hub for that light bulb, you need somehow to

1:36:54.040 --> 1:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like work it right.

1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.800
<v Speaker 14>So the hub word is a bit of a misnomer.

1:37:01.200 --> 1:37:03.439
<v Speaker 14>If you've been involved in the smart home in the past,

1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:05.559
<v Speaker 14>you would have heard of different hubs that you could

1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:08.040
<v Speaker 14>have used, like smart Things hub or like a Phillips

1:37:08.120 --> 1:37:12.840
<v Speaker 14>Hugh bridge or a Zwave device Zwave hub that would

1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:16.519
<v Speaker 14>work with one protocol and help you use those devices

1:37:16.560 --> 1:37:19.800
<v Speaker 14>locally in your home. They gen and then some hubs

1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:24.120
<v Speaker 14>would use multiple protocols and those what this what Matter

1:37:24.240 --> 1:37:28.120
<v Speaker 14>is doing is you don't have a hub that controls

1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:31.040
<v Speaker 14>a specific protocol. Instead, you have what's called a matter

1:37:31.160 --> 1:37:35.760
<v Speaker 14>controller that controls matter devices in your home. The good

1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:38.600
<v Speaker 14>news about the matter controller is you probably already have

1:37:38.680 --> 1:37:41.439
<v Speaker 14>one in your house because all of the big tech

1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:45.920
<v Speaker 14>companies have using software updates and with newer models added

1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:49.839
<v Speaker 14>matter to their devices. So the Apple TV you mentioned

1:37:49.920 --> 1:37:53.320
<v Speaker 14>is a matter controller. All Apple TVs are matter controllers.

1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:57.280
<v Speaker 14>All home pods are matter controllers, all Echo devices, smart

1:37:57.360 --> 1:38:00.800
<v Speaker 14>smart speakers from Amazon, they're all matter controllers, even the

1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:01.559
<v Speaker 14>really old ones.

1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:05.639
<v Speaker 2>What about the Google, Like all the.

1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:10.880
<v Speaker 14>Googles are as well, including the Google Wi Fi routers.

1:38:11.560 --> 1:38:15.360
<v Speaker 14>So yeah, and Samsung has put matter controllers into everything,

1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:20.120
<v Speaker 14>like even into the fridge. So you have but the

1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:22.800
<v Speaker 14>key different. There is a key difference which you picked

1:38:22.880 --> 1:38:26.320
<v Speaker 14>up on. There's dread now. Thread is one of the

1:38:26.360 --> 1:38:30.080
<v Speaker 14>two wireless protocols matterworks over. The other is Wi Fi.

1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:33.439
<v Speaker 14>Everyone has Wi Fi mostly if you have a smart home,

1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:35.960
<v Speaker 14>you definitely have Wi Fi, so that's not an issue.

1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:39.479
<v Speaker 14>You do need a specific Thread border router in your

1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:43.600
<v Speaker 14>house to get the most out of Thread devices and

1:38:43.760 --> 1:38:47.479
<v Speaker 14>Thread devices are different because Thread is a protocol that

1:38:47.600 --> 1:38:52.120
<v Speaker 14>was specifically developed four IoT products, so it's centered around

1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:56.360
<v Speaker 14>things like low battery and sorry, long battery life, low latency,

1:38:57.120 --> 1:39:00.040
<v Speaker 14>all the types of things that probably already frustrated you

1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:02.240
<v Speaker 14>in the smart home, like if you've had a smart

1:39:02.280 --> 1:39:04.200
<v Speaker 14>sensor in or a smart doll lock and you had

1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:07.040
<v Speaker 14>to change the batteries after two or three months. Were

1:39:07.040 --> 1:39:09.320
<v Speaker 14>you have a smart light switch that takes like thirty

1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:12.160
<v Speaker 14>seconds to turn on. Those types of things are frustrating.

1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:15.240
<v Speaker 14>Thread is designed to fix those, but you do need

1:39:15.280 --> 1:39:18.559
<v Speaker 14>a thread border router. Good news again, all of those

1:39:18.560 --> 1:39:21.799
<v Speaker 14>devices I just talked about from Amazon, Apple, and Google,

1:39:22.360 --> 1:39:27.040
<v Speaker 14>about thirty percent of those are also thread border routers.

1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:31.200
<v Speaker 14>And within the next three to five years, I would

1:39:31.360 --> 1:39:34.880
<v Speaker 14>anticipate that the majority of your routers that you get

1:39:34.920 --> 1:39:38.559
<v Speaker 14>from your ISP or routers perhaps that you buy like

1:39:38.920 --> 1:39:42.640
<v Speaker 14>Eer routers or Google Nest routers, will be matter controllers

1:39:42.720 --> 1:39:45.800
<v Speaker 14>and thread border routers as well as WiFi routers. So

1:39:45.840 --> 1:39:48.960
<v Speaker 14>you'll have everything you need for Matter. But right now,

1:39:49.200 --> 1:39:51.760
<v Speaker 14>if you're looking to get started with matter though, that's

1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:53.280
<v Speaker 14>what you're going to want to make sure you have

1:39:53.560 --> 1:39:56.000
<v Speaker 14>is a matter controller that also works as a thread

1:39:56.000 --> 1:39:56.599
<v Speaker 14>border router.

1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.240
<v Speaker 7>And if you want a list of.

1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:01.599
<v Speaker 14>Those, I have a very handy article on the vergeon

1:40:01.600 --> 1:40:04.200
<v Speaker 14>dot com called all the devices that work with Matter

1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:07.080
<v Speaker 14>and you can go there and see and see which

1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:07.720
<v Speaker 14>ones will work.

1:40:07.760 --> 1:40:09.559
<v Speaker 7>And like I said, the chances are you may already

1:40:09.560 --> 1:40:10.439
<v Speaker 7>have one in your house.

1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got every smart home device that works with

1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Matter on the Verge dot Com. I'll link that up

1:40:16.680 --> 1:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>on the website. Jennifer Twey, We're gonna have to leave

1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it there. I feel like we need I feel like

1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I have to take a college course in this. I

1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm understanding why matter is. I feel like

1:40:28.760 --> 1:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>they need some really good marketing people to kind of

1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>clean some of this terminology up and make it simple.

1:40:34.840 --> 1:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But thank you so much. You really explained a lot

1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of it. I do appreciate it. We're gonna have you

1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>back on to talk about it more. Jennifer Twey of

1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>The Verge, definitely look at the article every smart Home

1:40:44.720 --> 1:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Device that Works with Matter. Coming up, It is time

1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:54.519
<v Speaker 1>for the feedbag right here on rich on Tech. Welcome

1:40:54.560 --> 1:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

1:40:56.880 --> 1:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>with you, talking technology the website for the show rich

1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on Tech dot TV. Two more items of note to

1:41:05.240 --> 1:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>get to before we open up the feedbag. First off,

1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>these AI powered glasses. They're called the Hearview AI subtitle glasses.

1:41:15.400 --> 1:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I tried them on. This is a company out of

1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the East Coast. They flew out to LA to give

1:41:20.520 --> 1:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>me a demo of these glasses. But they look like

1:41:22.960 --> 1:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>sunglasses that you know, you can have the sunglass frames

1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>or the standard see through frames, but they offer real

1:41:31.320 --> 1:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>time transcription of spoken words, so it displays the text

1:41:35.880 --> 1:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>on this little transparent screen right within the lens, so

1:41:40.400 --> 1:41:44.479
<v Speaker 1>you can literally see conversations as they're happening. So it

1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>uses an app to kind of transcribe and then display

1:41:48.720 --> 1:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>on the glasses what people are saying. So these are

1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:54.599
<v Speaker 1>for the hard of hearing. Battery life up to seven

1:41:54.640 --> 1:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>hours and I try them on and they're very cool.

1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like subtie for the real world. So

1:42:01.720 --> 1:42:04.599
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to someone, if you couldn't hear what they're saying,

1:42:04.640 --> 1:42:07.439
<v Speaker 1>you would literally just see what they're saying right inside

1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>your lenses. So I thought these were pretty cool. The

1:42:10.120 --> 1:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>problem is the price. They're very expensive. They retail for

1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:18.559
<v Speaker 1>about two thousand dollars. Again, they're called the Hearview AI

1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>subtitle glasses, and you can watch my story on them

1:42:23.360 --> 1:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>on the website rich on tech dot TV. But very

1:42:27.160 --> 1:42:29.639
<v Speaker 1>cool and a lot of potential here to help people.

1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:32.479
<v Speaker 1>They were on sale for a lot cheaper than that

1:42:32.800 --> 1:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, maybe like thirteen hundred. Over the Cyber Monday

1:42:36.880 --> 1:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Black Friday Redfin. You can now tap a button on

1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>redfin and add decorations to your house, holiday decorations. So

1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:51.439
<v Speaker 1>they're using AI to transform home listings into holiday listings.

1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:55.479
<v Speaker 1>You can add lights, garland, and even a Christmas tree.

1:42:56.000 --> 1:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what this reasoning is. I guess

1:42:58.640 --> 1:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at houses during the holiday season, it's

1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:03.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun to imagine, like what your house will

1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:06.559
<v Speaker 1>look like that you're moving into with holiday decorations. But

1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if you are a homeowner, you can claim your home.

1:43:09.880 --> 1:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You can just dress up your home, put it on Redfinn.

1:43:12.280 --> 1:43:14.439
<v Speaker 1>If it's on Redfinn, you can upload an image, select

1:43:14.439 --> 1:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>holiday from the style menu. And if you're a buyer,

1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:22.559
<v Speaker 1>you can redesign any listing by pressing the redesign button.

1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:26.479
<v Speaker 1>It's available on redfin dot com and the iOS app.

1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:30.240
<v Speaker 1>What will they think of next? Okay, let's open up

1:43:30.240 --> 1:43:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the feedback. These are the comments, the questions, the emails

1:43:32.680 --> 1:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that you send me. David from Cincinnati writes in my

1:43:36.160 --> 1:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>son Jacob is fourteen. He's on the autism spectrum when

1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>it comes to technology. He's incredible, almost like a savant.

1:43:41.800 --> 1:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>He spends hours watching YouTube tutorials and has outgrown even

1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Geek Squad when it comes to fixing devices. I believe

1:43:48.840 --> 1:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Jacob's potential goes beyond a typical job like bagging groceries,

1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:54.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'm unsure how to get him there. He won't

1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>receive a high school diploma, only a certificate, and college

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<v Speaker 1>is not an option. Do you know if any programs

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<v Speaker 1>mentors are paths that could help someone like him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>already far beyond me in tech skills. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to support him in reaching his potential. David, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for this email. We did a story with an

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<v Speaker 1>organization called Exceptional Minds here in Los Angeles. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a school and the tuition was not cheap, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just an example of a place where teenagers like your

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<v Speaker 1>son go and thrive. And it was really incredible to

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<v Speaker 1>see how these teenagers were doing things like video and

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<v Speaker 1>graphic design, and it's like a Hollywood kind of base thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the studios stand up doing work with the studios,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really really incredible. So I am sure there

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<v Speaker 1>are programs like that near you. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of linking up with the people that know where

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<v Speaker 1>to find these programs. And I think you got to

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<v Speaker 1>look for organizations in your area that deal with folks

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<v Speaker 1>on the autism spectrum. So I would do a Google search.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if I type in Exceptional Minds on Google.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this as a nonprofit academy in post production

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<v Speaker 1>studio for people on the autism spectrum. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>look for programs for people on the autism spectrum in

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati area and beyond, and I think you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>something great. Thanks for the email. Don from San Berndino

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<v Speaker 1>writes in Happy Thanksgiving. I don't recall you covering instacart,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been a game changer for my family. Even

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<v Speaker 1>here in San Bernardino, far away from the big city,

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<v Speaker 1>this off service offers access to so many stores in

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<v Speaker 1>one place. Three years ago, I faced a major medical challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife, who is site impaired, couldn't drive or handle

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<v Speaker 1>computer orders during my hospital stay. Our daughter signed us

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<v Speaker 1>up for instacart. She placed orders for us and groceries

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<v Speaker 1>arrive within ninety minutes. The monthly fee is small, delivery

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<v Speaker 1>is free with a tip. Drivers are polite, and they

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<v Speaker 1>even bring things into the kitchen for seniors or the homebound.

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<v Speaker 1>It's truly a godsend. Family members can help remotely, even

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<v Speaker 1>from another state. I hope sharing this inspires others to

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<v Speaker 1>assist loved ones with Instacart or similar services. Seniors and

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<v Speaker 1>the homebound are often overlooked, and this can make a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference. Thanks Don. I don't typically talk about Instacart

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it's expensive and overpriced for what

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<v Speaker 1>you get. But when you put it that way, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can definitely be a very big help depending on

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<v Speaker 1>your situation. Thanks for the email, Joanne writes in thank you, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>Your tips have helped me so much. Your most recent

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<v Speaker 1>wise camera recommendation, I got it and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again, Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. And Ted

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<v Speaker 1>from Palm Springs rites in Happy Thanksgiving, Rich, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>your wonderful radio program. We can hear you in the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And then we got a question from

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<v Speaker 1>Cat and Sacramento. I enjoy and value your radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>Your excellent topics are easy to understand and provide us

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<v Speaker 1>cat Jubilee, and I want to know what happened. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a foster fail? We still have Jubilee. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fail just yet, but it's certainly feeling that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But she is up for adoption. She is a cute

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