Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition
Speaker 1: amb ambit ambition, ambit Hey manager, how besides your hair?
Speaker 1: What is up and out?
Speaker 2: Hello? And I know we're looking like a couple of
Speaker 2: spring blooms today. Yeah, hot and pink. Oh well, it's
Speaker 2: so good just to catch up with you. I feel
Speaker 2: like you well obviously went on vac. We talked a
Speaker 2: little bit, but haven't had like a proper catch up
Speaker 2: proper Kiki had some exciting guests in the stew yes
Speaker 2: been a little bugy with that, so lots to look
Speaker 2: forward there, But I don't know, I just want to
Speaker 2: like catch up because feel like there's been so much
Speaker 2: I don't know important news of Black America. What should
Speaker 2: we talk about first or should you just tell me
Speaker 2: what's happening in Budget needs to land.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Munchisa Land has been very which I like boring.
Speaker 1: I really realize that like I'm not going back to
Speaker 1: like I feel sorry for anyone who is like Tiffany is,
Speaker 1: you know, is going to go back to grinding it
Speaker 1: out or whatever, and that they're waiting. Some people are
Speaker 1: waiting and I'm like, yeah, you're gonna turn blue, sis
Speaker 1: and certainly you know me, I work hard, but also too,
Speaker 1: I know that I have planted plenty of en of
Speaker 1: cs and I'll never not pick you know. Like I
Speaker 1: was literally a walk with one of my friends Brandon said,
Speaker 1: like she comes from like Brooklyn, and like we take
Speaker 1: a walk at my favorite one of my favorite parks
Speaker 1: is around this pond, and we were just talking about that.
Speaker 2: How so she got to go on a walk with
Speaker 2: you tonight for her, but we were.
Speaker 1: Talking about it. I just was saying, how do you
Speaker 1: reach a point like I have reached a point and
Speaker 1: I wanted her to say this affirmation where it's like
Speaker 1: it's okay to say I know how to make money.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, you never want to you
Speaker 1: feel like, no, no, no, I know how to make money.
Speaker 1: I have put in enough work for access for knowledge.
Speaker 1: I know how to make money I will never not
Speaker 1: have and I can rest on that because I didn't,
Speaker 1: I mean, up until, you know, I didn't feel like that,
Speaker 1: and so I don't have to navigate from a space
Speaker 1: of lack and fear, which is where the overwork and
Speaker 1: overwhelmed despite you know, making all the coins and everything else.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, m girl, we're not doing that no more.
Speaker 1: And so I love it because I'm it's not just talk.
Speaker 1: I'm passing that on to the team where I'm like,
Speaker 1: we just had a team meeting the other day where
Speaker 1: we just listed all the things, and I said, let's
Speaker 1: get rid of most of them and really focus on
Speaker 1: just these three things that are going to make the
Speaker 1: biggest impact with where we want to go with the
Speaker 1: with the company. And the other things, although they're great
Speaker 1: and can certainly make more money, but at what cost
Speaker 1: more work, work on the weekends, work in the evenings now.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, So it's just like I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just transitioning into this space where I just rest. Truly
Speaker 1: is existence. I mean, if I don't take like an
Speaker 1: hour walk a day like that, I at least most
Speaker 1: times I get in about two hours. I get in
Speaker 1: the nap, I eat healthy food, I start weight training
Speaker 1: like your girl is. I mean, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: my many The body is body okay. Oh I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get my body back.
Speaker 2: I'll be right there with you, speaking of the which
Speaker 2: I need to take my blood pressure. I need to
Speaker 2: take my blood sugar while we're sitting here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just feel like I think the what I
Speaker 1: like most is how I'm feeling on the inside as
Speaker 1: far as like at peace, It's finally it's finally being
Speaker 1: expressed externally, meaning professionally, personally. I spend way more time.
Speaker 1: My dad and mom were just up here to see
Speaker 1: the cherry blossom trees. I sent an uber for them.
Speaker 1: My sisters came with my niece and my nephew, and
Speaker 1: so like, I'm spending so much more time with friends.
Speaker 1: I just like I'm just settling into like the life
Speaker 1: that I desire, not the life that looks good for
Speaker 1: social media. I have not even been back, you know.
Speaker 1: I took March off and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come back in April. I don't know if I'm coming
Speaker 1: back because I mean maybe a little bit. I came
Speaker 1: back for a little bit. Oh it's still trash here.
Speaker 1: Let me leave. But have you been? How have you been?
Speaker 1: How's Oh?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm six weeks out at this point, so
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the home stretch. I'm really excited,
Speaker 2: Like I want to hold every baby that I see.
Speaker 2: I want to squeeze them. I'm that creepy lady. Now
Speaker 2: I had a whole convo with a toddler. I dunkin
Speaker 2: donuts this morning. I'm just ready, like uh Rio is
Speaker 2: really excited. But the past few weeks, I mean physically
Speaker 2: have not been great. I have not been walking two
Speaker 2: hours a day. I will get back to it, though,
Speaker 2: But I'm officially been diagnosed with gestational diabetes. So now
Speaker 2: I have to check my blood sugar all the damn time.
Speaker 2: Classic me, though, I make it like I'm getting a
Speaker 2: grade and I want to like be the best into class,
Speaker 2: and I want to get my blood sugar down the most,
Speaker 2: and you know, fortunately, but I can follow I can
Speaker 2: follow rules, and I want all the credit. And I
Speaker 2: lost my monitor this weekend and I was so oh
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting credit for the bloodshirt. I knew my
Speaker 2: blood sugar was on point all day. On Sunday, I
Speaker 2: resisted every piece of Easter candy. You know, I had
Speaker 2: my little Greek salads. I stopped eating after seven anyway,
Speaker 2: So that's I'm getting under control, which is fine.
Speaker 1: Why does that happen? Like just station, there's no.
Speaker 2: Rhyme or reason to it. Like I've got friends that
Speaker 2: are one hundred pounds and they've had gestational diabetes. I've
Speaker 2: had friends who are black, Asian white. It's just it's
Speaker 2: just so random. I didn't have this with Rio at all.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask me. But the way that my
Speaker 2: doctor described it is like we're both sharing a pancreas,
Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes the pancreas is just not giving
Speaker 2: what it needs to give for two little bodies to process.
Speaker 1: I'm close. I'm glad you explained it in a gen
Speaker 1: Z way. It's not the pancreas is not giving, honey.
Speaker 2: It's just not giving. It's just really not a vibe
Speaker 2: at all. It's a little susy. It's a little sus
Speaker 2: so hold on and prick myself well the charger. Ah, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm a pro now. But yes, I went to get
Speaker 2: a fresh kit this morning. And let me tell you,
Speaker 2: it's not cheap to be a diabetic like this stuff.
Speaker 2: This was thirty bucks for a new kit which doesn't
Speaker 2: even have like a long supply of strips and stuff.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'll do my little peace on the
Speaker 2: healthcare system later, but I just want to get through this.
Speaker 2: I want to have a healthy pregnancy and you know,
Speaker 2: move on with life. And I'm be outside this summer.
Speaker 2: But business wise good. I mean, I've been really focused
Speaker 2: on ever greening up everything that I can, and I'm
Speaker 2: feeling like I've I've got you know, savings. You know,
Speaker 2: I was really like squirreling away this winter. Any entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: you know, you don't get maternity to leave anymore. So
Speaker 2: been quite proud that I've been like squirreling away and
Speaker 2: saving and I might even make it through tax season
Speaker 2: without you know, having to file bankruptcy. So I hadn't
Speaker 2: paying my taxi, which is gonna be great, I know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what's been going on. But I've just
Speaker 2: been like really leaning into rest. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: can't physically do a lot of what I want to
Speaker 2: be doing. And I think I've finally broken from the
Speaker 2: I should be doing this or a year ago I
Speaker 2: was doing that, or with Rio, I was like this,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, different baby, different body, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm just excited to have a healthy, happy baby boy.
Speaker 2: And well you look beautiful, see Beyonce, thank you.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I know, so sometimes you know, people
Speaker 1: their pregnancy is like really.
Speaker 2: Rough one oh four. That's good.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the pregnancy is really rough, and then you know,
Speaker 1: they just like, like my mom when she had when
Speaker 1: she was pregnant with me, Oh my gosh at the
Speaker 1: picture she looked like a doll baby, right, But then
Speaker 1: when she was pregnant with Lisa, we were like, who
Speaker 1: is the lady.
Speaker 2: That she's Lisa's number five? And you're like, what number
Speaker 2: two or what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different. The longer you go listen, yeah, I
Speaker 2: do not. I look at pictures of me with Rio
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, I thought I didn't look great.
Speaker 2: I look fucking sad. I would rather have that body now,
Speaker 2: not pregnant.
Speaker 1: Well, you know this is like, this is not necessarily
Speaker 1: black news, But did you hear so? I'm sure obviously
Speaker 1: you know about the fire movement, which stands for financial
Speaker 1: independence retire early. It was this big movement with millennials
Speaker 1: about you know, making as much money as possible. Typically
Speaker 1: they're making like six figures living off of like nothing,
Speaker 1: investing the rest, and then you know, getting to it
Speaker 1: was usually about like two or three million dollars in
Speaker 1: that kind of mark and then being able to retire
Speaker 1: in their thirties. That it was this huge movement. The
Speaker 1: average person doing it, of course, was white dude with
Speaker 1: access to make six figures and to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. But so it gained a lot of traction.
Speaker 1: But one of the pioneers, his name is Oh would
Speaker 1: Oh Sam Doggin Right, So he was able to retire
Speaker 1: early with three million dollars. He was thirty four, he
Speaker 1: was married at the time, and now he's saying that
Speaker 1: he's returning to work. Sam is now forty five, so
Speaker 1: ten years later, and it's because he said that, honestly,
Speaker 1: I got kids. Now I'm loving. I'm loving because he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think if I'm reading correctly, that he has
Speaker 1: two kids. See the thing is when they first retired,
Speaker 1: he and his wife, they weren't sure if they're going
Speaker 1: to have kids, you know, which we you know, that's understandable.
Speaker 1: He's like, now we have to and we're living in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. He's like yeah, and so you know, he said, basically,
Speaker 1: what was the three million dollars. He was able to
Speaker 1: grow his passive income give or take to about two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year, which sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of money between the two of them. It's like both
Speaker 1: of them having one hundred thousand dollar job, but not
Speaker 1: with too trunk.
Speaker 2: Because they got a hear it is not giving yes.
Speaker 1: Not on the post. And so what I love is like, well, one,
Speaker 1: I'm loving the fact that, like, because I'm not anti
Speaker 1: fire movement at all, you know, I'm all forul you
Speaker 1: know me, I'm a frug go liver. But I just
Speaker 1: didn't like that it seemed like, well, all you got
Speaker 1: to do is if you had a little discipline, you
Speaker 1: could retire. And it didn't take into account that people
Speaker 1: might have kids. It didn't take it.
Speaker 2: So drastic to like live off of nothing and not
Speaker 2: enjoy right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also too, it didn't take an account that,
Speaker 1: like it might not be accessible to you if you're
Speaker 1: a person of color, a woman, someone who's disabled, you know.
Speaker 1: And so for I mean, from his picture he looks
Speaker 1: like he may be Asian. I don't want to like speculate,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, so you know, I'm just so happy
Speaker 1: that it's like, yeah, the math was not mathing. It
Speaker 1: didn't mean he didn't do well. It doesn't mean that,
Speaker 1: you know, like that two hundred thousand that he's making
Speaker 1: passively is not going to supplement obviously beautifully supplement whatever
Speaker 1: income he brings in. But I just think like, it's
Speaker 1: almost like Marie con Did you hear about Marie Kondo?
Speaker 2: I rejoiced when she came out saying like, I don't
Speaker 2: even pay attention anymore. I got kids. There's no rules anymore. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I leave your book unread on my kindle, so if
Speaker 2: you're not reading.
Speaker 1: Be a family. She's got this. It's like tidying up
Speaker 1: or something like with Marie Kondo on.
Speaker 2: The life changing Magic of Tidying Up. And then she
Speaker 2: had a Netflix series, Yes, where she'd go into families
Speaker 2: who have kids, girls and make over their homes.
Speaker 1: I said, this is Anne. Do I love it? Do
Speaker 1: I keep it? Whatever she was doing and pushed out
Speaker 1: the babies and Mauricas say what now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids would really just be like kids will will
Speaker 1: bring the truth to light, you know, like people. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: people don't want to hear nothing until you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't have to kids in there. Mine. It's such
Speaker 1: a disaster.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is, you know, I really have
Speaker 2: to go to the sunken place when it comes to
Speaker 2: I've never I'm not gonna lie. I've never been miss tidy.
Speaker 2: My mom was like super crazy about cleaning up, and
Speaker 2: I think I had the opposite reaction of like just
Speaker 2: go with the flow. But I feel bad for moms
Speaker 2: who still maintain that like level of it needs to
Speaker 2: be clean every night before I go to bed, because
Speaker 2: I sleep really good with the full sink of dishes,
Speaker 2: and you know what, it's between sleep and staying up
Speaker 2: and scrubbing, Like, I'm just not going to choose that
Speaker 2: journey for myself. I had to give that up. So
Speaker 2: we have a clean house like once a week, and
Speaker 2: then within hours it's destroyed. And you know, we just
Speaker 2: make a lot of activities to leave the house so
Speaker 2: we don't have to look at it. That's our coping mechanism,
Speaker 2: and I will organize and it'll get beautiful. But I've
Speaker 2: kind of made peace with the fact that that life
Speaker 2: is not for me right at this moment, not in
Speaker 2: this season. I got our please one of the puzzles
Speaker 2: and legos and literally four.
Speaker 1: I'm one of five kids, and so my parents what
Speaker 1: they decided early on after like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: I was like maybe five or six when my dad
Speaker 1: bought like our first house. He just decided every house
Speaker 1: we have will have a basement that belongs to the kids,
Speaker 1: and so that's what it was. It was like, y'all
Speaker 1: are not allowed up here unless you're taking a bath
Speaker 1: or getting in a bed. So literally, we always had
Speaker 1: a full basement where we were allowed to destroy, which
Speaker 1: we did. I mean, I'm talking about we were right
Speaker 1: on the walls. I'm talking about melted crams.
Speaker 2: He I mean we were.
Speaker 1: We were destructive. But the basement was the kid's space
Speaker 1: when you and your little raggedy friends come over, this
Speaker 1: is where you can have your toys. Of course we
Speaker 1: had to clean up and things like that, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't the company space. So upstairs was always kept nice,
Speaker 1: and it was like my dad would literally we were
Speaker 1: come upstairs, He's like, I'm sorry, little trolls, I just
Speaker 1: want to juice.
Speaker 2: Take your juice and your stacked in the engine. He
Speaker 2: would just give you a mini fridge down there.
Speaker 1: No, the second house of be I definitely had a
Speaker 1: fridge and all the other stuff. And so that's, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how they handle that. They were just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, we have to relinquish front of the house
Speaker 1: of the kids. This is your basement. Do what you will.
Speaker 2: I'm as bad as rio. I like to play. I
Speaker 2: like to do puzzles with him. I like to make
Speaker 2: a mess. It's really husby. He has to suffer. I
Speaker 2: don't want him to go to a room by himself.
Speaker 2: I want to be in the mix.
Speaker 1: You know. Like that's because you have one. Imagine five.
Speaker 2: My dad was like, I'm sorry, I know, well, if
Speaker 2: you have five, you can entertain each other exactly. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's that's too much. Good lord,
Speaker 2: we haven't even mentioned the webbies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all good news first, because you know
Speaker 1: we got some trash news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all the good news first. Dumb yeah, ba fam.
Speaker 2: We have done it again almost well, we haven't quite
Speaker 2: done eight yet, but we have been nominated for our
Speaker 2: third Webbye in just a year, like I feel like
Speaker 2: it was just a year ago. We accepted two Webby
Speaker 2: Awards for Best Best Business Podcast last year and then
Speaker 2: Best Business Podcast People's Choice, which is entirely voted by
Speaker 2: the people last year.
Speaker 1: I mean the people have said.
Speaker 2: The people and the critics or whoever they have the
Speaker 2: panel choosing winners both decided we were the best, and
Speaker 2: you know, who could blame them? This just kind of
Speaker 2: special because we've been nominated for Best Best Business Podcast
Speaker 2: for an individual Episode, which is when Tiffany returned Tiffany's
Speaker 2: returned from after Superman passed away. How do you I
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't know we were even up for
Speaker 2: that Individual Episode award, But listen, I listened back to
Speaker 2: a bit of it, and I'm like, I remember it
Speaker 2: was raw, it was raw and real.
Speaker 1: No, no, why. Last night I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just like hit me like a ton of birrid.
Speaker 1: I cried till thre o'clock in the morning. You know,
Speaker 1: some days you just like I feel like, okay, I
Speaker 1: go for a walk, you know, and then some days
Speaker 1: it's really like what the entire hell? You know? I
Speaker 1: told Doctor Green, my therapist. I said, sometimes it just
Speaker 1: feels like like, you know, you come home to your house,
Speaker 1: You're like, ohya, this is my house. And then you know,
Speaker 1: you go for a walk, you come home and not
Speaker 1: only is your house not there, it's not like it's
Speaker 1: burned to the ground, but there's a whole different house there,
Speaker 1: and you're like, no, no, no, wait, where's my yellow house.
Speaker 1: There's this blue house there, new people living in it.
Speaker 1: It's like your whole life has been wiped away, and
Speaker 1: so some days you just feel like that sometimes I
Speaker 1: really cannot believe that he's not here, that he's not
Speaker 1: going to be like looking at the door like Greek like,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm taking my podcast, baby, you know.
Speaker 1: And so some days, like I said, I feel you know, good,
Speaker 1: and I feel joy and you know, I feel connected
Speaker 1: to my family and friends, and other days it just
Speaker 1: hits me like a ton of bird. Like last night,
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell I mean, I was
Speaker 1: hysterical til three o'clock at the point I was like, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so when I was that, I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I know. I got so many tweets of
Speaker 1: people saying I was scared to listen to that episode
Speaker 1: because they knew it was going to be emotionally charge
Speaker 1: and maybe even triggering, maybe because you know, if you're
Speaker 1: missing someone that you've lost, but you know, I just
Speaker 1: someone else hit like I don't know. It was a
Speaker 1: listener or one of my mentees she just lost her
Speaker 1: husband and she just was like, can't we jump in
Speaker 1: a call because I don't know like what to do,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you seem like you're okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, I'm not you just caught me in
Speaker 1: a moment, you know, And so it's okay not to
Speaker 1: be okay, And and I'm glad that people get to
Speaker 1: see like, you know, I mean, I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like our list, our audience has really grown up with us.
Speaker 1: I mean we were two single gags ready to mingle,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how we can call ourselves a business podcast and
Speaker 2: or you know, talk about wealth building and career progression
Speaker 2: if we don't also include the the personal elements that
Speaker 2: go along with that. And I feel like watching your
Speaker 2: journey as a business woman and as a friend and
Speaker 2: human being, but how you have not let the opportunity
Speaker 2: have How you haven't let that experience like dissuade you
Speaker 2: and move you away from your dreams and your goals
Speaker 2: as a business owner. But you've let it alter for
Speaker 2: the positive. The way that you do business I think
Speaker 2: is such a you know, and of course we'd rather
Speaker 2: have Superman a million times over. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 2: such a beautiful story for people to see and for
Speaker 2: people to follow. Just how you can do it with
Speaker 2: grace and put and make lemons out of you know,
Speaker 2: or wait, elemonade at a lemons, I should better Beyonce told
Speaker 2: me whoever it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just hope that also to you see
Speaker 1: that like it's just a journey. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean for those of you who've lost people, Like what
Speaker 1: I've learned more than anything is that like it just
Speaker 1: doesn't leave you. So even when someone says that, like
Speaker 1: and I hope if you have someone in your life
Speaker 1: they've lost their mom, their dead, their partner, their child,
Speaker 1: they're someone close to them, and even if it was
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I promise you, promise, you promise you,
Speaker 1: it like cuts just like it was yesterday, although they've
Speaker 1: learned to have the affectation in their voice like it
Speaker 1: doesn't because you just learned that, like you know, after
Speaker 1: like you know, a year or so, people expect that
Speaker 1: not you've moved on, but it doesn't hurt as much.
Speaker 1: That's just not true. So whenever someone says like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom, she dies ten years and she died ten
Speaker 1: years ago, I always stop now and just like look
Speaker 1: them in the eye and touch their hands and just
Speaker 1: say I'm so sorry, and they're just like they get
Speaker 1: it because they're like, yeah, I know, I say it casually,
Speaker 1: but it's never casual that my mom passed away, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I just hope that you
Speaker 1: people that little bit of acknowledgment, you know, as they're
Speaker 1: sharing falsely like a casually, that losing someone that close
Speaker 1: to them, you know, still does not affect them like
Speaker 1: it just happened yesterday. But I mean, life is most
Speaker 1: meant to be lived, you know. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I'm doing to the best of my ability. And you know,
Speaker 1: there are some gifts with grief, and one of those
Speaker 1: gifts is clarity, you know, and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got supreme clarity and like what I am and
Speaker 1: what I'm not going to do, what I enjoy, you know.
Speaker 1: Mandy and I had candid conversations like do I want
Speaker 1: to come back to Brown Ambition, you know, and I
Speaker 1: was like, because you know, it's not for the money.
Speaker 1: I have to really like I got rid of everything
Speaker 1: they did not yeah, that didn't like doing And I
Speaker 1: was just like, like, I'm going to come back and
Speaker 1: I want to see do I still like doing it?
Speaker 1: And I'm here and I'm not here for any other reason.
Speaker 1: Then I enjoy doing it. I enjoy talking to my
Speaker 1: friend Mandy, like because I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: You know, I could just be like, this is just
Speaker 1: not it doesn't bring me joy anymore. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, when it was that episode, I was like, really,
Speaker 1: so you know, it better win.
Speaker 2: If we win. If we win and then we get
Speaker 2: to go to the Webees, then it's even a question
Speaker 2: do we get to do the five ward speech? But
Speaker 2: it's all yours boo, you got it. This is your award,
Speaker 2: Superman's award, but ba fam. Also, you know, it's such
Speaker 2: a symbolic award too for me because I feel like
Speaker 2: y'all held me down when I was holding it down
Speaker 2: for Tiffany, and we didn't know what was going to happen,
Speaker 2: like audience wise, what we continue to grow and y'all
Speaker 2: continue to show up and listen, And just like I
Speaker 2: was giving Tiffany space, it felt like y'all were two
Speaker 2: and you were okay with that. So we wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to do this without y'all, ba fam. And we
Speaker 2: also can't win this award without you because this is
Speaker 2: entirely decided by y'all, by the audience, by the people.
Speaker 2: All right, So if you want to vote, all you
Speaker 2: have to do is go to brand Ambisson podcast dot
Speaker 2: com and click the banner to vote for us for
Speaker 2: the Webby Award for Best Individual Podcast Episode. Please send
Speaker 2: us out for one night on the town before I pop.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I may have the baby on stage, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it would be such good content.
Speaker 2: My five words, my water just broke. Shit, that would
Speaker 2: be that would be the show. And I haven't checked
Speaker 2: the stats, but I think we're still in first place.
Speaker 1: I just check the stats. We are thirty seven percent.
Speaker 1: The closest to us is twenty two percent.
Speaker 2: But okay, I like that margin.
Speaker 1: Yeah I need too, but you know I like him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like to superwin. You know, I don't like to
Speaker 1: have the way of accounts. Yes, I would love to
Speaker 1: be fifty percent. Come through by a fam. You want
Speaker 1: to talk to a commercial break before we go to
Speaker 1: some not so cute news, you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: some of the things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 2: We just have a collective brown breaks all around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll do that and come right back BA fam.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we're back and Maydi has Harbert, Yeah, all the things.
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's talk about some trash that's happening.
Speaker 2: Shenanigans, to be women, to be black, to be brown,
Speaker 2: to be black in the South, you know. And this
Speaker 2: is what's kind of hilarious, not hilarious now that we've
Speaker 2: on the other side of this controversy. So two black lawmakers,
Speaker 2: the justins as they are now being called, were expelled
Speaker 2: from their positions in the Tennessee House and basically over
Speaker 2: their protests over the shooting that recently happened at a
Speaker 2: school in Nashville. So this is like two of the
Speaker 2: biggest issues for me kind of tied up in one
Speaker 2: one gun violence in schools and don't get me started.
Speaker 2: And then these two black Democrats, who are in the
Speaker 2: minority already in more ways than one, then get voted
Speaker 2: out because they had the audacity to protest on the
Speaker 2: House floor, to draw attention to the victims and to
Speaker 2: the calls from their constituents for gun reform, for common
Speaker 2: sense gun reform. And like, what got to me was
Speaker 2: listening to some of the arguments for the like majority
Speaker 2: white and male Republicans who were who were voting to
Speaker 2: expel them. They were like, there's a time and a
Speaker 2: place you spoke out of turn.
Speaker 1: Boy, that's what that boy part was silent but not really.
Speaker 2: Yes, you didn't do it, Yes, exactly, you spoke out
Speaker 2: of turn. You know, you were disrespectful all this. You
Speaker 2: didn't play by our rules. I'm like, in what universe
Speaker 2: are politicians who are there to represent their constituents not
Speaker 2: allowed to speak out when their constituents are begging them to.
Speaker 2: Like literally, there.
Speaker 1: Was a there were other lawmakers there in the past
Speaker 1: that had like peed in opposing party chairs. There was
Speaker 1: another one that was a pedophile and convicted, another one
Speaker 1: convicted of felony and still allowed to stay and even
Speaker 1: and then then that day they weren't the only there was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't there, Uh there was. It was a white
Speaker 1: woman who also Gloria something. Yes, they're like, oh, but
Speaker 1: she didn't use the megaphone. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: just say you're racist and go home.
Speaker 2: I just guess how she there were three of them,
Speaker 2: she was one, but she didn't get expelled by one vote.
Speaker 2: She kept her seat. What's really fucking hilarious about all this?
Speaker 2: And Republicans are just why are these particular in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I don't want to like pay Republicans with a broadbrush,
Speaker 2: because there's some out there who were not insane, but
Speaker 2: they basically made these two Justins famous, like I didn't
Speaker 2: know their names. Now if all of them on IG
Speaker 2: they're getting so much donations to their campaign funds. Like
Speaker 2: not only that, but almost immediately one of the justice
Speaker 2: has already been reinstated, and the second Justin I was
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, So Justin Jones I think, has
Speaker 2: been reinstated. And then there's another, the second Justin who
Speaker 2: looks like he's gonna run. He's gonna run, have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to run for his seat again very soon and
Speaker 2: will probably be right back you know where he started.
Speaker 2: So to what end did you did you do this?
Speaker 2: What have y'all actually accomplished for yourselves other than to
Speaker 2: make two new superstars, you know, for the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: and for the cause of gun reform. Forget Democrats for
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 1: For those of you know, Easter just passed, so we're
Speaker 1: going to do a new church, right, and the Bible
Speaker 1: is says that God will use your eminent enemies as
Speaker 1: a footstool.
Speaker 2: Right, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, amen, amen, So it's like what
Speaker 1: you thought you were going to come in here and
Speaker 1: embarrass these black men, and instead you push them to
Speaker 1: the national stage where we're all looking it's not looking
Speaker 1: cute over there for the public. But between your your
Speaker 1: your evil leader being indicted and arrested, you know, between
Speaker 1: like all this gunshot that all this gun violence where
Speaker 1: it's like what does it take? Like it's really not
Speaker 1: looking good for that party, and and I I'm not
Speaker 1: like pro like Democrat. Either's just like I just some
Speaker 1: days you're just like what does it take? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like what does it take? But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean people are going you know what the people
Speaker 1: don't hear they feel, so you know they're going to
Speaker 1: be feeling.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to it's impossible to think about
Speaker 2: what it will take because so many more people are
Speaker 2: gonna have to die, you know something Like I've already
Speaker 2: had one hundred and forty six shootings and it's year.
Speaker 2: It's barely halfway through, you know.
Speaker 1: Now that's like a quarter a quarter of the way
Speaker 1: through the air.
Speaker 2: It's it's sad. I'm embarrassed for our country. And I'm
Speaker 2: also like I feel like sometimes so there's moments where
Speaker 2: I get really anxious about it. Like if you don't
Speaker 2: realize that you're suffering from anxiety as a parent about
Speaker 2: your kids going to school, except like recently, my cousin Anna,
Speaker 2: Rio's godmother came home with a nerf gun and I,
Speaker 2: I know, no warning, like nothing from me. I burst
Speaker 2: into tears. I screen, I was like, get that out
Speaker 2: of my house. I don't And it was because I
Speaker 2: saw Rio's eyes light up when he saw it. He's
Speaker 2: like ooh, and he wanted to play with it. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't long after You've all day last spring, You've
Speaker 2: all Day was only it was less than a year ago,
Speaker 2: which is just all those babies, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like as a parent you almost have to
Speaker 2: just what are we What are we doing? Just asking
Speaker 2: my husband last night, are we crazy to be putting
Speaker 2: these kids into into the world, And like what did
Speaker 2: we just do? We just put them on a school
Speaker 2: bus and pray, you know, like it's so fucked up,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, I've joined the groups. I've joined
Speaker 2: the Mom's Demand Action, and you know, you you donate
Speaker 2: to the different funds, but it's hard. There really is
Speaker 2: no telling what it will take. But I think one
Speaker 2: thing I know for sure, and it's a goddamn shame,
Speaker 2: is it's going to take more dead people. People are
Speaker 2: going to keep dying until something gets done. It's this
Speaker 2: is America. It's a shit show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to this show.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Welcome to the ship show, y'all. We are.
Speaker 2: I believe we're in the shit show together all just
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. Part of me is also like,
Speaker 2: do more people like the governor knew someone who died,
Speaker 2: the governor of Tennessee knew someone who died in the
Speaker 2: school shooting in Nashville, and then like there was another
Speaker 2: one in Louisville just yesterday, thank you, and one of
Speaker 2: them knew the governor of Kentucky. And I'm like, maybe
Speaker 2: it'll take more people who are connected to the leaders
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: To get a dn Like my friend died, Like what
Speaker 1: is he.
Speaker 2: Going to tell his wife? Thoughts and prayers?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know.
Speaker 2: It's a horrible thought, But I'm like, is that what
Speaker 2: it's going to take. We need to wait until they
Speaker 2: see enough of their people, their loved ones, they go
Speaker 2: to enough of those funerals. But at least one bright
Speaker 2: spot is that they have we have officials, We have
Speaker 2: elected officials like Justin's the Justin's Justin Jones, Justin Pearson,
Speaker 2: speaking out, and they're getting support from Biden, from Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: from the Obama's you know, so hopefully they can help
Speaker 2: make a dent as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just vote y'all, n C double a champion like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sporty.
Speaker 2: It's basketball, yes, basketball, And so I'm here for the
Speaker 2: tea and the drama, not so much for like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: let's spill thee what happened? Oh god shit, you're gonna
Speaker 2: put it on me. All right, So what happened was
Speaker 2: there's two teams, right, I feel like I'm Kid Fury
Speaker 2: on the read whenever Crystal, Yes.
Speaker 1: You're sports.
Speaker 2: He's like, so there's a sport with a ball in it.
Speaker 2: And so like one team and then another team were
Speaker 2: against each other and and and what happened was a
Speaker 2: white player from one team, don't ask me where they're from,
Speaker 2: made some kind of like rude gesture to another player.
Speaker 2: It was like, you can't see me. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that was a rude thing.
Speaker 1: It's initially they say it's to John Cena. It's not
Speaker 1: Tony yo Is. You know, he's a fifty G unit artists.
Speaker 1: He used to do that. Like so imagine your hand
Speaker 1: is up like you're showing like a high five hand,
Speaker 1: but then you put the palm towards your face and
Speaker 1: then you wave it like ah, you can't see me.
Speaker 1: So Tony Ayo started in, and then John Cena like,
Speaker 1: you know, which is this very popular white wrestler, and
Speaker 1: so you know so and I won't even say it's rude,
Speaker 1: but it's it's just it's sports. Get aggressive, it's mack
Speaker 1: talking exactly. Yeah. So the girl, the white girl, Caitlin
Speaker 1: did it, no biggie.
Speaker 2: But there are a girl, yes, Angel Reese, Yes, a
Speaker 2: black woman did the same thing and then have the
Speaker 2: audacity to go on to win Yes at the same time, right,
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, who even was outrage? Was
Speaker 2: it Twitter or was it Fox News? But people were
Speaker 2: blowing it up like she's rude, yes, classless.
Speaker 1: People were calling her terrible, terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, when Caitlyn used to do it, they would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, wow, she know, she's really into the game,
Speaker 1: because Caitlyn is actually a really great player, as is Angel,
Speaker 1: and they're just like, this is what it looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, the aggression. This is what it takes to win,
Speaker 1: but as soon as a black woman did it, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, no, no, but you already know.
Speaker 1: And so it just was. And even what I didn't
Speaker 1: like is so Joe Biden, you know, Joe Biden's wife,
Speaker 1: the first lady she I think she was there for
Speaker 1: part of the game. And then afterwards, you know, found
Speaker 1: out that the the you know, the the team, you know,
Speaker 1: the Louisiana team won and she was saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, we'll invite both teams to the White
Speaker 1: House to celebrate. I'm like, Jill says, when do we
Speaker 1: do broke?
Speaker 2: Do you have a pr rep Jill, I.
Speaker 1: Said, that's not how it goes winners. She's a teacher, yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to go back to that grace, but
Speaker 1: I'm just a teacher.
Speaker 2: She wants the kids to feel good. But you want
Speaker 2: to say, you know, think.
Speaker 1: Mandy, if the black team had lost, that you would
Speaker 1: have said, let's be real.
Speaker 2: I really don't. I mean, I want to say yes,
Speaker 2: but I have to say I don't think.
Speaker 1: So, I don't think I think the internal bias was
Speaker 1: because oh no, no, no, you know no. And it's just
Speaker 1: like and I will say to Caitlin the white player.
Speaker 1: You know, she's really young, she's like twenty. But they
Speaker 1: had her on ESPN and they interviewed her, and honestly,
Speaker 1: she was like, y'all aerbugg in basically that like that's
Speaker 1: you know, it's a gesture that I used. She uses,
Speaker 1: So what that Angel is an amazing player. And you know,
Speaker 1: they played and they beat us and I didn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't mad at it because this is what we smack
Speaker 1: talk on the court. She basically was like, that's really
Speaker 1: a y'all problem. I just here to play. And we
Speaker 1: played and we lost in okay, and and so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was a guy from mom it's a eight. No,
Speaker 1: it's like he's a big podcaster, he owns like a
Speaker 1: big podcast network, who was like talking about her terribly,
Speaker 1: talking about Angel terribly. I just like, you know, these
Speaker 1: grown men talking about these young women. Yeah no, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't Joe Joe Okay. It was like this podcast
Speaker 1: owner or podcast network owner. Yeah. It just I just
Speaker 1: be like, h y'all tired, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that's tired. It reminds me I was listening to
Speaker 2: like a white woman who recently got cans. Not recently
Speaker 2: Alison Roman do you know her?
Speaker 1: Girl?
Speaker 2: She was this like famous New York Times cookbook writer
Speaker 2: and author who blew up during the pandemic white woman
Speaker 2: blonde from lives in Brooklyn, you know, And she criticized
Speaker 2: Chrissy Teagan and Marie Condo in an interview, and then
Speaker 2: she was canceled, lost her gig at the New York Times,
Speaker 2: went off into the ether people, and she was on
Speaker 2: a podcast like she's on her return tour, coming back
Speaker 2: with a new cookbook. And on the podcast, she was like,
Speaker 2: there were people defending me that I did not want
Speaker 2: to be a part of their team. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: not you, no no no, I don't need your help.
Speaker 2: And I feel like it's these like conservatives who are
Speaker 2: looking for any case to jump on. And I feel
Speaker 2: like Caitlin's having the same feeling, like no, I don't
Speaker 2: ride with y'all. I'm I'm like.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm not mess Like we're playing the game.
Speaker 1: We talk smack. The guys talk smack, so girls talks
Speaker 1: back too, and so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Angel, Angel is now going to the White House,
Speaker 2: and apparently the other team is not getting invited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I they ought not to, not because of any
Speaker 1: other reason. What, that's just how it goes. The winners
Speaker 1: and the tradition. I mean, you know, break tradition when
Speaker 1: black people win. What the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like, Oh, to make people feel more comfortable,
Speaker 2: we'll have both teams there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, and you see that it
Speaker 1: was this woman, this young black girl for the was
Speaker 1: the first black valedictorian or salutatorian of her school. And
Speaker 1: they had someone who had a lower They made two valedictorians,
Speaker 1: a white girl like with the lower GPA. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: why because the black girl got the heart. Yes, yes, girl,
Speaker 1: that's why. I'm just like when people people love to
Speaker 1: use the if you would only work harder, if you
Speaker 1: and only it's like, let's be real, that's just not true.
Speaker 1: You will always move the goalpost. That's why I just
Speaker 1: don't participate. And you know, I've just opted out and
Speaker 1: I build my own shit, and then I get to
Speaker 1: hire amazing black and brown women, you know, and give
Speaker 1: them the space and the grace to you know, for
Speaker 1: those who are willing to do the work for, you know,
Speaker 1: to be treated fairly and to be paid well. Because
Speaker 1: I just can't, you know what I mean, Like, I can't,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just cause and I know everybody's
Speaker 1: not able to do that and sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: work for whomever or whatever. But I just was like,
Speaker 1: I got to opt out. I gotta tap the f
Speaker 1: out because it's exhausting. Anyway, that's our I mean, we
Speaker 1: didn't even have official brown boots, Brown Break, but that's the.
Speaker 2: Brace to Angel Rees and only Angel Reese Break to
Speaker 2: evernyone Brown Boost to those of us who can see
Speaker 2: through the bullshit and recognize what's happening. It's not about
Speaker 2: playing it fair. It's not about oh, we just want
Speaker 2: everyone to be recognized for their hard work. It's about
Speaker 2: what happens when black women are at the forefront and
Speaker 2: when and how quickly our success will try to be
Speaker 2: picked apart man taken, you know. But I think in
Speaker 2: this case, she preserved her dignity and I'm very proud
Speaker 2: of her.
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