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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Emma Fitchett, back with us. She's in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: She is a plant spirit healer, shamotic teacher author. One

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Speaker 2: of her books is called Journeys with Plant Spirits with

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Speaker 2: a Lifelong pursuit of Self mastery and Inner Transformation. She

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Speaker 2: has studied for a master's degree in written her thesis

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Speaker 2: on Understanding the Nature of the Self through lucid Dreaming. Emma,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Have you been hi, George?

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Speaker 3: I'm great. Thank you so much for inviting me back

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Speaker 3: to your iconic show.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about plants, consciousness, and lucid dreaming, everything,

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Speaker 2: what is and that. It's just amazing, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the world is full of wonders if we just

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Speaker 3: allow ourselves to open our minds to them.

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Speaker 2: Emma. The late Cleve Baxton did experiments on plants. He

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Speaker 2: was convinced. Some of the scientists warn't, but he was

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Speaker 2: convinced that plants had extrasensory perception powers, they had consciousness.

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Speaker 2: What is your reaction to his work?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? He was a pioneer and he led the way

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Speaker 3: in our modern understanding of plant consciousness and the conscious

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Speaker 3: intelligence of plants. And so he did these experiments on

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Speaker 3: plants using a Lie detector test, and he showed that

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Speaker 3: plants have memory, that they have self awareness, that they

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Speaker 3: have awareness of others, awareness of humans, and so but

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Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of like the modern understanding

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Speaker 3: of it. And indigenous people, people that Eye trained with

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Speaker 3: in the Amazon, as well, they knew this. They've known

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Speaker 3: this for a long long time. But even more than that,

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Speaker 3: they recognized that the plants have this eternal space it

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Speaker 3: as well. They have a spirit just like we do

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Speaker 3: that we can communicate with and we can receive healing from.

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Speaker 2: He even said, plants suffer of pain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they remember it. They remember at least, you know,

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Speaker 3: damage to their body. They remember that something external to

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Speaker 3: them can damage them. But we know this, you know,

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Speaker 3: because they other work through Suzanne Simard et cetera, have

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Speaker 3: shown that the plant that the trees, for example, if

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Speaker 3: one has a parasite or an invading insect, then it

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Speaker 3: can warn other trees through chemicals that it kind of

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Speaker 3: like excreaks, but also through the mic and rhizal network

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Speaker 3: as well. It can send signals, and so the plants

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Speaker 3: and trees they communicate with each other if there's if

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Speaker 3: there's a danger in the area. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: One of your books is called Journeys with Plants, Spirits,

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Speaker 2: Plant Consciousness, Healing and Natural Magic Practices. What do you

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Speaker 2: think of that subtitle Plant Consciousness Healing.

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Speaker 3: Well, I chose it and I wrote it because that

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Speaker 3: is how I understand and have experienced plants myself. So

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Speaker 3: I've experienced receiving healing, whether that comes in the form

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Speaker 3: of insights or emotional balance or spiritual downloads or physical healing.

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Speaker 3: I've received this from the spirit or the conscious intelligence

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Speaker 3: of the plants themselves. And so that little phrase kind

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Speaker 3: of encapsulates my experience and what I teach others as

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Speaker 3: well how to experience that as well. So, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: little phrase encapsulates that.

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Speaker 2: Now, when we talk about plant healing, are we're dealing

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Speaker 2: primarily with the herbal type plants that give you medicial

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Speaker 2: help supplements or are we talking about something a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me, I'm talking about metaphysical, I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about energetic. Of course, herbalism comes into it because we

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Speaker 3: have to know whether you know the properties of a plant,

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Speaker 3: whether it's poisonous or whether it's you know, we call

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Speaker 3: them veins or balms, whether they're healers or whether they're poisonous.

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Speaker 3: But even if they're poisonous, you can still work with

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Speaker 3: the vibration of the plant. And this is what I

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Speaker 3: work with. I work with plant essences. So an essence

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Speaker 3: of anything works is a frequency. Everything works through frequency,

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Speaker 3: including consciousness. And so if you capture or hold the

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Speaker 3: frequency within water, and as you know, water holds me memory,

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Speaker 3: the vibration of a plant. And then when you ingest that,

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Speaker 3: Rather than ingesting the physical qualities of the plant, the

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Speaker 3: physical chemicals of the plant, such as through herbalism, which

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Speaker 3: still which is absolutely valid, this is just working at

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Speaker 3: And so we can communicate with plants in this way

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Speaker 2: Are there different plants that do different things medicinally to us.

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Speaker 3: If you're talking medicinally, absolutely yeah, you know, herbalism, naturopathy, phytotherapy,

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Speaker 3: is this vibration. And so every plant or tree, just

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Speaker 3: as in herbalism. So if you went to your herbalist practitioner,

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Speaker 3: if you went with just some kind of like issue

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Speaker 3: take for a while. And so it's the same with

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Speaker 3: plant vibrational plant healing. Each plant has its own vibratory signature.

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Speaker 3: So every time you and you know it, you know

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Speaker 3: a different type of tree or perhaps next dow and

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Speaker 3: then we're receiving a different kind of frequency. And so

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Speaker 3: kind of blends with our own energetic body, our aura,

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Speaker 3: rebalances it. It blends this new plant frequency into your

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Speaker 3: can make you feel more have more emotional balance in

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Speaker 3: lots of different ways. So, for example, some plants can

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Speaker 3: heart chakra. You know rose for example, that's a classic

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Speaker 3: at a medicinal level, a physical level to heal the heart,

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Speaker 3: but it also works at an emotional level. It heals

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Speaker 3: the spiritual heart, the heart chakra, It rebalances it it

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Speaker 2: What I find amazing there is that this planet seems

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Speaker 2: to have plants available for almost every ailment that exists

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Speaker 3: It's remarkable, absolutely, And you know what, as we evolve,

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Speaker 3: so do the plants. So just as things evolve within

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Speaker 3: And I'm too, I'm not a herbalist, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: much more beneficial for limes disease in the area that

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Speaker 3: this kind of like biofeedback between human energies and the land.

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Speaker 3: You know, plants and trees were intimately connected with them anyway,

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Speaker 3: so it's not like we are taking them and they're

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Speaker 3: completely different to us. They know what is needed. For example,

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Speaker 3: when many many dandelions turn up in your garden, there's

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Speaker 3: probably a need for a liver cleanse in your household,

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Speaker 3: you know, because there's this, there's this kind of riscent

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Speaker 3: nature takes care of nature, and we are nature, and

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Speaker 3: there's this, whether we're aware of it, whether we're conscious

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Speaker 2: Edgar Casey, the great American prophet, seemed to really have

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Speaker 2: his finger on the pulse of all of this, did

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Speaker 3: I'm not too familiar with Edgar Casey. Of course I've

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Speaker 3: heard of his prophecies, et cetera, but I don't I'm

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Speaker 3: not familiar with his kind of knowledge and understanding of nature.

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Speaker 2: He would, in his trance Stadema come up with some

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Speaker 2: and he would talk about various herbs to use and

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Speaker 2: health remedies. A lot of plant consciousness was involved in that.

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Speaker 2: But he he did it in a translate. He had guides,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds great. I'm going to read into that,

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Speaker 3: but it reminds me of Rudolf Steiner as well. He's

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Speaker 3: very similar. He would receive his information from his from

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Speaker 3: his guides, his spirit team. And absolutely that's how I work,

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Speaker 3: is that we you know, once you get to know plants,

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Speaker 3: humans are just naturally psychic. And so I work with

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Speaker 2: How are you perceived in the United Kingdom with what

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Speaker 3: How am I perceived? I'm not quite sure, but many

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Speaker 3: And so I work with and train herbalists and other

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Speaker 2: And there's the ancient.

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Speaker 3: There's not many people doing it.

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Speaker 2: The ancients seem to understand this much better than we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think it kind of happened with

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Speaker 3: the industrial Revolution from my understanding, you know, we kind

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Speaker 3: the industrial revolution really kind of reprogrammed the human perception,

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Speaker 3: In fact, thinking itself, I think is a fairly in

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Speaker 3: the way that we think today, and these kind of

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Speaker 3: ancestors would think in more of a fluid way. And

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Speaker 3: actually our ancestors, particularly my ancestors here in the British Isles,

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Speaker 3: they would say that their thoughts came from nature and

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Speaker 3: just went back from nature, so that we're permanently informed

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Speaker 3: by nature. But then when there was this kind of

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Speaker 3: disconnection from the land, disconnection from our kind of original language.

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Speaker 3: Language is really important to how we perceive the world

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Speaker 3: and how we create our worlds. It's spelling, you know,

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Speaker 3: how are we spelling each other and ourselves into perceiving

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Speaker 3: the world. Well, the English language is very very directed

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Speaker 3: towards industrialization, towards physical things and doing things, Whereas if

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Speaker 3: you look at ancient languages like Gaelic and Sanskrit, these

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Speaker 3: are very spiritual and sacred languages that had many many

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Speaker 3: want more words to explain transcendental experiences, spiritual experiences, and

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Speaker 3: so so yeah, I think there's been kind of like

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Speaker 3: many factors involved with why we don't perceive and connect

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Speaker 3: to this kind of inner realm of nature anymore.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating. Now when you talk about plant spirit healing, what

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Speaker 2: does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 3: So okay, so from my perspective, and there are different everybody.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you train with plant spirits, everybody who

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Speaker 3: who trains with it to become a healer, everybody. The

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Speaker 3: plants just reveal your unique medicine. So we all work

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Speaker 3: in different ways, you know, which is perfect because you know,

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Speaker 3: we are unique individuals and so our medicine that we

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Speaker 3: carry as individuals is unique for each of us. But

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Speaker 3: for me, how I work is that I have spent many,

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Speaker 3: many years, I think about thirteen years continuously communicating with dieting,

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Speaker 3: with taking initiations with plant spirits, and so during those initiations,

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Speaker 3: what's happened is I've communicated with the plant worked out

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Speaker 3: I manage a spirit team of plant spirits, and each

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Speaker 3: of my plant spirit allies knows exactly what job they've

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Speaker 3: got and what they have to do. So then so

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Speaker 3: for my clients, I cleanse people's energy fields. And so,

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Speaker 3: like I said, I work remotely, so I can cleanse

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Speaker 3: somebody's energy field of all different toxicities, whether it's attached entities,

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Speaker 3: whether it's damage to the energy field, repsentears, certain toxicities.

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Speaker 3: Anything I find in my energy field, I have a

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Speaker 3: I just have to find it or sometimes they show

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Speaker 3: me them, and then we can release repatent transform different

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Speaker 3: toxicities in the energy field. And what that does is

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Speaker 3: it gives it. It brings integrity back to the energy

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Speaker 3: field so that it's just you in there. Because if

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Speaker 3: there's anything in your energy field, any toxicities, then you

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Speaker 3: know it affects the mind and it affects the body.

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Speaker 3: Because the energy field of the mind and the body,

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Speaker 3: it's all one. We are one unitary system. They're not

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Speaker 3: separate to each other, and so if there's stuff in

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Speaker 3: your energy field, it's going to affect your mind. So

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Speaker 3: if you've got something like an attached entity or something

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Speaker 3: that's very very common, then that can affect your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: You can have detrimental thoughts about yourself, you can have

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Speaker 3: quite dark thoughts, you can have very very anxious thoughts,

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Speaker 3: things that are quite irrational, many many things, and so

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Speaker 3: things that keep you trapped in loops. And so what

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Speaker 3: my job is to go in and find those things

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