WEBVTT - Erin Lichy: The New “Straightforward” RHONY Star 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.360 This episode of She Pivots is brought to you by 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.480 the House of Chanelle. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:10.320 Chanelle introduces a new generation of sustainably developed skincare infused 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.600 with a high concentration of ingredients and derived from the 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:19.560 uniquely revitalizing winter blooming red Camellia flower package with lightweight glass, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.040 organic ink, and other bio based materials. New Miranda Chanel 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.080 forges an unprecedented path of skincare innovation New Miranda Shanel 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.360 Beauty Ahead of Time. To learn more about the line, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:40.800 visit Chanelle dot com. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.640 Welcome to She Pivots. I'm your host to Emilie Tish Sussman. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.839 One of my goals in starting this podcast is to 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.440 highlight voices and stories of women who went through something 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.360 deeply personal, only to come out of it on the 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.520 other side better than they could have imagined. After launching 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.840 she Pivots last year, it's clear it's not a small 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.800 This applies to most women, whether it's a big pivot 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.240 or even just a tiny pivot. What's clear is there's 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.440 still a lot of unpacking to do around pivoting. So 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.520 as we're continuing to build this platform and community through 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.200 new episodes, I wanted to also bring you more stories, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.399 unfiltered and honest. So I'll be sitting down with more women, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.479 maybe the occasional man, some of whom have mastered their 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.360 own pivot, some are just starting the pivoting journey. Are 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.759 some just have something to teach us about the deeply 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.160 personal moments of life. So stay tuned for more of 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.240 these candid conversations this season. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.400 Let's jump right in. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.120 Okay, welcome back to she Pivots with a super special 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.920 episode with a super special guest, Aaron Leechy New Real 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.960 Housewives of New York. Welcome eron. Thank you so much 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.680 for having me. I'm so excited to be here. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.880 You are at the beginning of like a press whirlwind here, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.040 I sure am how much press and you're done previous 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.520 to Real Housewives of New York planning and launching. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.520 I always, you mean, in relation to the show or 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:07.240 just generally. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.640 Just like in your life, like all of a sudden 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.280 you're like, oh, here's my ninth president of the day. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.840 I now, I mean, I always kind of was in 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.919 that world, between the business I had years and years ago, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.880 and then you know, my entior design business and in 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.120 the real estate world working with Frederick Eckland. So like, 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.040 I've always had a lot of press opportunities and been involved, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:26.480 but not. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.080 To this level and not this personal. Maybe and not 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:30.840 this personal. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.680 I mean, I'm realizing that I just filmed a show 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.280 in which I have no filter and say anything at 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.160 any time, and I don't quite remember everything I said. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.960 So it's like, how do you you know? Like how 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.320 could anyone remember everything? 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.480 But well, I was actually just thinking that, like how 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.200 could you possibly remember, especially cause I imagine a lot 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.440 of the press is getting the first couple of episodes 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:50.840 before the. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.480 Interview, I think, And that's like, how long ago did 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.600 you film? Like a year? Not a year? 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.400 We started in like I think end of October, okay, 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.480 and one of our first actually one of our first episodes, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.640 and I think the second and third episode we're out 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.200 here in the Hampton's at my house Okay. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.640 I was going to ask about that because I was 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.680 in town when you guys were walking through and all 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:11.640 the production was around. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.519 I had just taken my son it was about to 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.320 but we hadn't met yet. Did you see production? Yeah? 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.400 I talked to them, stop, Yeah, I asked. I was like, hey, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.320 what are you guys doing? They all went over to 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.160 Sagtown Coffee for coffees. I told them to you just 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:25.480 went in. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.840 Oh yeah, we were there. We went to launch a page. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.840 Oh is that where my son had karate at the Kites, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.200 Like right behind the Kite store. So we were sitting 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.400 having our weekly monkey milkshake Kites of the Harbor, my 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.520 son's favorite store. Yes, the best, and we go to 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 karate afterwards, and we're like, wow, this is a big 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.960 happening for the middle of October in like a kind 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.160 of sleepy town in the off season. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.560 It was like, did you guys have fun when you 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.760 were out here? We had so much fun. We really 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.000 really did. We had a great, great time. There were 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.680 a lot but it was great. Yeah. We also it 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.960 was one of the first episodes. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.160 Was that weird having people that you only kind of 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.200 knew in your house, like it's your actual house. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.480 Well I knew all of them, but yeah, I mean 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.320 it's not like a rented house. It's my home. So 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.680 like to get all this judgment and opinions and needs 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.719 a lot of needs. It was a lot. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.560 But I'm used to hosting. I'm always I always have 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:26.200 people over always, and then always pains there's always one pain, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.680 I'd say, you know, there's always someone who needs a 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.599 little bit more, someone who doesn't help out, like with 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:31.120 the cleaning. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.240 But it's fine. I'm used to it and I don't mind. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.800 I really love having people over. I do. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.640 Okay, so we're going to rewind how you got here. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.400 You know, the premise of this show is that we've 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.839 done certain things in our lives, and then things outside 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.640 of our outside of our control, change our perspective, and 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.559 then it puts us on like a slightly different path, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:49.720 and you've kind of. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.279 Woven those together. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.119 You started in your first professional endeavor in real estate 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.000 so young. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.960 How did you start so young? My mom is a 0:04:59.000 --> 0:04:59.760 real estate agent. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.960 My dad was a business owner for many years, but 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.440 then started getting into development in New York. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.200 And it was just in my blood, Like my parents 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.400 were builders. I just was in that world for so long. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.279 So for a summer job, my mom was like, well, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.520 why don't you just get your license? So while I 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.280 was in college, I went and got my real estate license. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.560 I took the test like in Albany. I was in college. Okay, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.760 So at nineteen I had my real estate license. I 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.360 started working summers and then you know, I wanted to 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.960 go to grad school. I thought I was going to 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.840 go to law school actually, and then I met my 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.440 husband and he was like, is this really what you 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.160 want to do? Like I'm already a lawyer, Like do 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.000 we need to be both lawyers? And I was like, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.320 I don't really want to do that, but I didn't 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.200 know what else to do. And then I found this 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.039 program an NYU in sustainable real estate development and then 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.320 got my master's in that. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.960 So I have had such a long history in real estate, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.159 Like it's crazy. So were you an agent when you 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.280 were in college? 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.520 Yeah, like when other people were having like a I 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.920 mean I was so immature in college. I cannot imagine 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.880 and I was real estate. Did people know that you 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.599 were in college or you were? 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.600 Well, I'd like come work for summers and I'd get 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:07.839 put on a listing and I'd show. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.640 I don't even know if I told it. I didn't 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:10.960 say that. I'm like, I'm in college. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.800 I just I just would show up, and I knew 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.919 what to do because it was so ingrained in me, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.280 Like I just knew how to show. I was always 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.560 good at sales and showing and describing a beautiful property 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.200 and I was My transactions were pretty pretty good. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.480 Pretty good. We're a teenager, a teenager anybody. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.640 So once I graduated, I actually was working in a 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.880 new development with my mom, and it was it was 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.000 very bare bones, like oftentimes we sell new development off 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.160 the ground or off of like plans, which I'm really 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.680 good at. It's like kind of my favorite this was built, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.960 but it was like a carcass. Okay, So it was 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.680 very cold. It was middle of the winter. I graduated 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.440 that summer went into winter, and my mom was like, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.920 you know what, I'm not going to show. It's gross, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.919 it's cold, Like take you, take over the showings. So 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.520 I started showing this property pretty much exclusively. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.840 And one of the new development, like leads Hall said, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.600 was like, okay, she's got something here. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.760 So he plucked me basically from that new development, and 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.839 then I was put onto four other ones. So I 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.880 had sold four new developments by the time I was 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:10.440 twenty three. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.040 It was crazy wild. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.000 Yeah, did you think about that as like I am 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.720 on my career path forever or you were like this is. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.400 Good for now. I don't know what I was. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.880 I was just like going with like I can't tell 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.520 you how many open houses I hosted when I was 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.040 insanely hungover, like sleeping in the bed. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.320 Of like the staged room, being like I'm die, oh, okay, 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.800 you want to see this through bedroom? Like I don't 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.920 know how I got through it, like I was a kid, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.640 you know. But I think I just like I've always had. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.640 I think it's the New Yorker and me. I've always 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.440 had this mentality of just like go, go go, And 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.880 there was no real pause, like I just went with it, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.880 so like I was given the opportunity, Like why wouldn't 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.760 I take it? Yeah, did you ever think that you 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.280 wouldn't leave the sitting? Yes? And I think I dabbled, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.120 like I traveled a lot. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.400 There was I mean, I studied abroad and then after college, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.720 we actually my parents like what do you want as 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.320 your college gift? Because I knew I didn't want just 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.520 like a thing, And I was like, I want to 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.600 go to South America and I want to work. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:10.800 And I actually volunteered. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.000 I worked in a comadora with kids in Lima, Peru, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.960 and I traveled for like weeks and weeks at a time, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:17.520 and I did everything like. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.960 I did Iasca in the jungle before I was but 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.680 was cool. Oh I know, nah Shaman. Yeah. Then I 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.360 was like. Then years later, I was like reading about 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:25.920 it in Vogue, I'm like, oh, this is like a 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.960 thing that people do like in California. I thought you 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.600 could only do it in the jungle. Oh yeah everyone 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.400 I know who's doing it in California. Crazy. But like 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.960 I did all these things and I experienced so much, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.960 and then I think, for me, travel really grounds me 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.880 and gives me the ability to like focus focus on work. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.800 I know it sounds weird, but it's like I just 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.840 need that escape. I love being immersed in different cultures 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.880 because it gives me perspective and makes me really appreciate 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.640 like where I am in life, and like gives me 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.040 that energy boost to just keep going and. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.160 Do more and do more. Yeah. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.720 I mean we both grew up in the city, and 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.680 I feel like there was this sense why would you 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.600 ever live anywhere else? Like just like why would you leave? 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.880 I mean I've been to almost every city, Like what's 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.440 better than New York? No? 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 Really, Like I asked people this all, where is there better? Okay, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.760 there's Chicago, but it's like terribly windy and freezing and 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.719 in the middle of the Midwest, you have California. You 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.280 can't fly to Europe unless you take away over in 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:19.679 New York. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.640 And like for me, being able to get to Europe 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.240 or Tel Aviv or wherever easily is important. I don't 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.600 care about going Hawaiian that often, but like also California lifestyle. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:27.920 I don't know. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.760 I just think New York is the quintessential city. You know, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.960 I'm not leaving America, so where am I going to be? Yeah, no, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.320 that's totally fair. I mean I ended up leaving for 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.000 ten years. Like, I didn't think that I was going 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.040 to leave. I never thought that I would leave, And 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.040 I thought that I would go to Washington for one 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.000 year because that was where work took me. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.079 Right, well, that makes sense. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:47.920 But then I ended up staying for ten years and 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.680 the whole time, every like everyone in the city was like, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.560 but it's so funny being in Washington. Everybody refers to 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.520 New York as they have like some ties to it. 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.640 I mean, you know this, nobody in New York even 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.960 thinks about Washington, Like, nobody thinks that it's even close. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.880 It's very close, right, yeah, yeah, I mean ish, yes, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.920 it's talking a couple hours. Yeah, if you take the train. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.400 It's like three and a half hours in the train, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.280 like go into the Hamptons when there's traffic. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.439 I mean honestly, when I before I had kids, when 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.920 I lived in DC, I would come up to New 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.719 York sometimes once a week for like an event or 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:19.720 a meeting or something. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.960 Yeah. So yes, it's very easy to go back. And 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.400 I know, but it seems like a whole other like world. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.880 It's because it is another world. It's culturally so it's 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.480 culturally really different. It's all like all you think about 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.560 is government news. Yes, yes, that's true. That's why I 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:33.840 liked it. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.520 I liked yeah, it need to make sense until it 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.440 got Actually, another broker in the city in New York 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.720 told me that DC is actually the number one feeeder 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.560 city to New York. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.880 Do you think that's true. I just never would have 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.800 thought about that. That's interesting. I know, peter City, like 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.520 people stop over and then they continue. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.560 No, like if you're tracking, like where people moved to 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.800 New York from, like of all of the places they 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:58.800 moved to New York from. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.280 Well, I mean I guess that makes sense kind of 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.839 though it's very different culture. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.520 don't know. I mean, have you even been to Washington 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:11.640 since eighth grade? No? No, nobody has. What's like, it's lovely. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.360 It's like being in Brooklyn Heights, to be honest, if 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.319 yees our neighborhood was beautiful, yeah, it actually is lovely. Yeah, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.480 but no, nobody's been there unless you like actually have 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.120 to go. Okay, So you so you're like selling selling selling, Yah, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.640 how did you, like seriously think you were in law 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.600 school or when did you meet. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:28.800 Your husband in that? Yeah? 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.760 I took my alsat I was about to apply, and 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.480 I met Abe and he was like, just think if 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.480 you really like think about it. Do you really want 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.559 to do this because it's a big commitment, it's three 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.959 years of school. Do you want to be an attorney? 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.439 And I was like, absolutely not. Why would I be 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.079 an attorney? He's like, well, then why are you like, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.440 I don't know, I want to have the ability to 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.559 like write up a contract and he's like, well I 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.440 can do that, like really, and it really did make sense, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.880 And I gave you perspective in the sense that, like 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.520 I realized it did not want to be an attorney 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.559 and that was not my path. And I don't think 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.000 I could even read through contracts to be honest. But 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.960 then I decided to go to NYU for my master's 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.280 and it was an incredible experience. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:08.000 I really loved it. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.200 Taught me a lot about construction, which is like another 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.040 side of real estate that I didn't know that well 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.320 in a nuanced way. And that also gave me the 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.160 ability to design and build and I do that all 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.440 the time now, so it's like it was a great 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.160 learning experience. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.760 Yeah, how did you end up working sustainability into your work? 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.640 I am People don't know this about me, but I'm 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.200 very passionate about sustainability, very very very not that. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.040 I'm doing the best things in the world, but I 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.280 drive a Tesla. I don't use Classic in my house. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.800 Like I think it is insane that buildings are not 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.720 built to really operate and run on themselves. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.400 They easily can, and I was really curious and interested 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.400 in it, and I just wanted to know, like, what 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.120 does that mean? How do you actually take those steps 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.760 to have a building operate on itself? 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.800 And it's so easy to do, but a lot of 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.840 developers don't want to do it because it first of all, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.360 it seems like it's a lot that's like Honestly, the 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.360 biggest part just seems like more work because people aren't 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.800 well versed in it. So I was hoping, you know, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.240 if I got further into the business, which I have been, 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.480 I work really closely with a lot of developers in 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.680 a new development, I'd be able to kind of shed 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.680 light on it and help people understand that they could 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.560 make these small advances in a sustainable way to you know, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.800 have the building be more of a green building. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.800 How has that evolved for you in your work, going 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.760 from just the selling to learning about sustainability and the 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.600 building and now you're doing much more all encompassing. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.520 Right, Yeah, So I mean with Homegirl, what I do 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.160 is I mean, I work in interior design, but usually 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.480 it's design builds, so from start to finish really on 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.520 any project, down to the furniture. And in terms of 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.920 like when I talk about sustainability with furniture, it's really 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.880 about reusing stuff, right, Like I love first DIBs because 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.040 you can get a beautiful vintage Kegan sofa and refinish it. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:54.640 Like why not? 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.800 Why are we not utilizing all this like waste that 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.600 exists that's not actually waste. Everybody's trying to create the 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.800 same product that you saw in the seventies now, like 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.439 we don't have to buy a new piece, we can 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.720 just cover it. And that's like something that I think 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.320 my clients really gravitate towards and love because most of 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.760 them are passionate about it too, whether they realize they 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:16.600 are or not, they just. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.040 It needs to be discussed. And then in terms of 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.560 the construction side, there are lots of small things that 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.440 you can do to make a project or a building 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.240 more green. It's like just products you can use, you know, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.360 using less concrete, which is really hard on the environment. Interesting, Yeah, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:31.920 things like that. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.920 I mean, fashion and construction are the two biggest factors 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.880 in global warming and. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.520 It needs to stop. So even if I can do 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.080 a small part, I'm happy to do it. After this, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.840 can I show you all the furniture in my basement 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.000 for your potential? I have lots in my basement. Definitely. Okay, great, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.960 I'm really looking for out it too. How did you 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:52.440 think about it? 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.440 I mean, for me, the premise of where this show 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.479 came from is that I loved my career in politics. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.920 It was very career your mind did and having three 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.960 kids so close together was not planned for me and 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.440 really through my career off track, you have the same 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.400 basically three kids that I have, Like, how did you 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.480 think about it? Did you plan? And how have you 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:14.520 handled it? 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.040 I'm not going to lie. It is challenging. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.000 There are days where I'm like, how am I going 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.960 to get through all the things that I need to 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:22.480 do today? 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.000 And I'm starting a new project as well. I'm mescal brand, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.720 which I'll talk to you about. But sometimes it's like overwhelming. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.000 That being said, I think when you have your own 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.080 business and you're able to make the important things, like 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.360 even today, I was able to pick up Levi and 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.680 his buddy and take them to lunch and then come here, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.360 you know. But because I'm able to own my own 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.360 schedule and make those decisions, it makes a world of difference. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 When I was working exclusively in new development, I had 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.080 to be on site every single day ten to six. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.480 That doesn't really work for me anymore. But as you 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.440 grow in your career, what I realized is, you know, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.240 I became really valuable in my industry. So I say 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.360 to my developers like, hey, I can't do that, Like 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:03.840 I'm not going to be here from ten to six, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.560 but I'll be there when there are showings president, and 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.160 I'll manage the other people. So I think like it 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.480 is important to get to it. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.200 And I started really young, as you know, so like 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.840 I had that time to get to this point in 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 my career. But it is important as a mother to 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.600 get to a certain point in your career where you 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.080 can make those decisions and sort of make those claims 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.320 to your bosses or whoever you work for, to say, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.280 I'm capable of doing what I need to do and 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.240 to get done what I need to get done as 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.400 long as you have faith in me, don't worry about 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.560 the time output, like I will manage it. Yeah, And 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.440 I think that's important for women to know that they 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.000 can kind of stand up for themselves in that way, 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.040 Like I don't need to be here all the time. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.760 But if I'm slacking, then that's a conversation to behind. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.680 But if I know how to manage my own time right, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.160 and I'm selling your building or I'm you know, doing 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.640 whatever your books or whatever someone does, then that's enough. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:49.920 What are the. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.400 Must haves for you as a parent that you feel 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.000 like these are the things that I can't miss. I 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.680 like to be there for dinner. I like to be 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.280 there for dinner. I like to put my kids bed. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.400 Doesn't happen all the time, and I've learned not to 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.720 beat myself up for over that. That's a really hard 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.960 thing I think to get over when your kids are babies, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.440 Like putting the baby down was like like I used 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.880