1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Failure is one of the best things that can happen 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: to you. It's okay to be sad in that moment. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: When I go through those moments, I need to realize 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: that this can develop into something good, even though it 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: feels so horrible. 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Right now, what's shaken? Hurdler's My name is Emily Abadi. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: You are listening to episode ninety nine. Oh that sounds 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: so good of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: their big wins to how they've gotten through some of 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: life's toughest moments. On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: and candid discussions with everyone from top athletes to aspiring 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs on what it really takes to follow your passions. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: the way. I am keeping it business as usual over 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: here on the feed because I think we can all 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: agree a little bit of normalcy is a good thing. 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Right now, today, I am chatting with Georgia ellen Wood. 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: She's a pro heptathlete, which, if you don't know what 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: that track and field event consists, of you will very soon. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: We sat down earlier this year at. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: The under Armour Human Performance Summit, and let me tell you, 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: for a woman in her mid twenties, Georgia is wise 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: beyond her years and stunning both inside and out. In 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: today's episode, we talk about everything from what life was 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: like for her growing up in the Vancouver area, crossing 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: the border to go to college at the University of Wisconsin, 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: and the struggles she's had along. 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: The way in her athletic career thus far. 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Just visit LinkedIn 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: dot com slash hurdle again, that's LinkedIn dot com slash 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: hurdle to get fifty dollars off your first job. Post. 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: With that, you all know. 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: The drill at Emily a Body and at Hurdle podcast 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: on Instagram and Twitter. If you have a hurdle moment 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: of your own to share, or you just want to 77 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: say hi, reach out. 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: To me over email. 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: It's Emily at hurdle dot us. I am here for you. 80 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: And with that, let's get to hurdling. 81 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: Today. 82 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Georgia Ellenwood. She is a heptathlete. 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: It sounds so fancy when you say about so. First off, Georgia, 84 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: talk to me about what a heptathlete is. 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, a heptathlete is someone who could beats in 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: the heptathon. And it's over the span of two days, 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: four events on the first day, three on the second day, 88 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: and the first day consists of the one hundred meter hurdles, 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: high jump, shot put two hundred, and then the second 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: day is long jump javelin eight hundred. And it's on 91 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: a point system, so you get points for every single 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: event and then whoever has the most points at the 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: end is the winner. So you don't necessarily have to 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: win every single event. You can just be the most 95 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: consistent and the most well rounded and that's who's who 96 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: wins in the end. So you're just trying to be 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: very balanced, balanced. You have to do everything a lot 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: of events. 99 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm so curious, so how did you get into being 100 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: a heptathlete. I mean, we're going to bring it back 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: and talk about growing up, but was this something that 102 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: you always wanted to do or did you fall into it. 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't think I knew of the heptathlon when I 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: was young. I don't think a lot of kids do. 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Like when you start track, you do like baseball throw 106 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: and like the sixty meter dash and eighty meter hurdles 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: and stuff, So you don't technically know all the events 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: in the heptathlon when you're that young. But I think 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: I was always a active person and someone who did 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: so many different sports, so many different events and track 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: and field, and so it kind of just fell into place. 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I was never like, oh, that's a heptathlon, I'm going 113 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: to do that one day. It was more I do 114 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the four hundred and maybe I'll do a little bit 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: of hurdling, maybe able to try and throw a shot put. 116 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Just because I was so active and I wanted to 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: try everything, I got envious of someone who could do 118 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: something that I wasn't going to get to try totally, 119 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and so I think that's just how it fell into place. 120 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: And my coach one day was like, oh, I heard 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: of this thing called the pentathlon. I think I was 122 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen, and she's like, we can go 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: over to the States, which I don't often go to 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the US and try this and see how it works out. 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: And so pentathlon is five events, it's an indoor competition, 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: and I did it, and I think for the facility, 127 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I like broke the record as like a thirteen year old. 128 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: I mean not that impressive, to be honest, because it 129 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: was probably like some really small meat or something. But 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: that's when I was kind of like, wait, this is 131 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of cool. I can do all the events, and 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: it means something like there's a point total at the end, 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: so I can do all these events in the same 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: setting and earn something for it. 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: So that's when it started, all right. So then talk 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: to me about growing up. Where did you grow up? 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in Langley, British Columbia, so it's a 138 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: suburb of Vancouver, so most people know Vancouver. I just 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: say that I live in Vancouver. I think my older 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: brother had signed up for it. My parents were always 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: trying to get him involved in something because he wasn't 142 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: a sports guy. And I heard them in the other 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: room saying, oh, we'll sign you up for track and field. 144 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Are you interested in that? And before he could answered, 145 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll sign up, sign me up, Like please, 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: sign me up. I need to do this. I can't 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: let my brother do it, not me, And so I 148 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: think that's how it started. And I didn't you know, 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: when you're a kid, like, nothing's that serious. You just 150 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: sign up and go out there and have fun and 151 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: meet people. And so I think that's where my passion 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of develop from the get go. 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: Did you love running or was it kind of just 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: bigger than that. 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I thought that I could 156 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: take track and field to where I am. I never 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: as a kid. I'm so clear minded. I think I 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: wanted to go at the Olympics when I was young, 159 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: didn't know what for, just thought you could sign up 160 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: for the Olympics, I guess and go. And so when 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I was young, I just liked showing up, meeting my friends, 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: having fun, something to let my energy out. And I 163 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: think I started realizing that I was pretty good at 164 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: it when I bought my first pair of spikes. So 165 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe when I was like thirteen or fourteen and I 166 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: used sprint spikes for every single event, which is such 167 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: a no no for like where I am now, that's 168 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: when I started getting good and started saying like maybe 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: I should quit my other sports. Maybe this is something 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: that I should focus on and we'll see where it 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: can take me. 172 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: See where it can day cam. So in high school, 173 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: obviously you're like a big time athlete. 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Then well, in Canadian high school, like the where I 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: was Vancouver, no one knew that I was good at 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: track and field. I would just go to school and 177 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: then thirty minutes after school, I'd go to practice. And 178 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: in high school where I'm from, you don't have a 179 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: high school track and field team. So I did track 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: a club, and so I would go to school, have 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: a few friends at my high school, not anything too crazy. 182 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: Jocks were not like a big thing at my high school, 183 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and so I'm out with a few people and I 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: would be excited to go to track practice to meet 185 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: my real friends. Like it was kind of like an 186 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: outlet for a lot of the people who are on 187 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: the team from a bunch of different high schools. We 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: all met at the track and we're like, this is 189 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: where we feel comfortable. This is where we can show 190 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: our passion for what we do. And so I think 191 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: that's where it started. And I've always had such a 192 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: good experience on the track and the people that I 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: work with that I wanted to continue doing it. 194 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: And then, so did you know without a doubt that 195 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: you wanted to continue athletics in college. 196 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was an option for a 197 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: while until maybe grade eleven. So junior year, yeah, they 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: say junior. 199 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: Year the translation. 200 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: And so I remember talking to my parents about it, 201 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: and I'm so lucky to have parents that were involved. 202 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: They we did some research on different schools and they're like, 203 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be good at this. If you 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: want to take this and be serious about it, we're 205 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: going to look in the US and we're going to 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: look at it some big Division one colleges because I 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: think your score is good enough to get in there. 208 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: So that's when I was like, WHOA, maybe maybe I 209 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: could take this somewhere I didn't know, and so we did. 210 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: We filled a couple of questionnaires on a few different 211 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: universities in Wisconsin being one of them, and the coach 212 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: got back and he wanted to do a home visit. 213 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: So this is a big D one university and this 214 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: coach is coming to my house to visit me, like 215 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: it's exactly like it is in the movies. That's what 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was like, how do I behave? 217 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: And I remember we made him a pie, like an 218 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: apple pie, and we all sat down and ate it. 219 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: We connected right away, and I thought I was going 220 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: to do my five visits. You get five recruiting visits 221 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: in the US, and I was like, I'm going to 222 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: do all of them. People tell you to do all 223 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: them as advice, just to know what the system is like, 224 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: get familiar with it and really make this decision smartly. 225 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: And so Wisconsin ended up being the school that I 226 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: wanted to go do fit my personality, and they're really 227 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: focused on the heptathlon, which I had never seen before, 228 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: and they had a ton of school spirits, so I 229 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: was like, let's give this a shot. 230 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I need to digress and ask you about, 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: like your first experience with some of like the odder 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: events in your sports. 233 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember that you mean, like some of the 234 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: technical events. Oh, totally so. I think the first events 235 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: that I did were the four underd and high jump right, 236 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: and when they got me introduced to throwing events, I 237 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: think that was pretty pathetic for the first little bit. 238 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: Well why do you say pathetics? 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh? I was a skinny little girl like holding a 240 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: really heavy ball trying to throw it as far as 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: I can, And I was like, why am I not 242 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: good at this? Like I didn't like not being good 243 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: at something, And to this day, I'm still that's probably 244 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: my weakest event. So I struggled going back and forth 245 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: at the shot put. 246 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: But I always think of Matilda. 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: What was missus trench bul miss trench Bowl? Was she married? 248 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't remember, I don't remember, but I remember she 249 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: threw a heavy thing. 250 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. So my goal is to be like her. 251 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Personal victory, Yes, but you remember it being super difficult 252 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: at the time. 253 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized that I needed to start maybe weight 254 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: training or maybe gaining some strength. And so I even 255 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: now I'm trying to figure out which body works for 256 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: this event, because you have to be well rounded, you 257 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: have to be able to have endurance, you have to 258 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: be powerful, you have to be able to throw things 259 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: and jump over high bars. And so how can I 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: keep my body at a weight or at a way 261 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: that I can use it as a tool for this event? 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: And so I think I'm constantly trying to figure that out, 263 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: and so right now it's working. But you know, if 264 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: I lose a little bit of strength, then I might 265 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: not be good at the shop. But if I gain 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: too much strength, and I can't go over the bar 267 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: in the high jump. So it's really interesting to keep 268 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: that balance. 269 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: And I think, I mean that balance for so many, 270 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: especially women, is so difficult as it is to find 271 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: a place where you feel really at peace with your body. 272 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: So when your body is your instrument, I feel like 273 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: the pressure sometimes can probably feel a little bit overwhelming. 274 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it is, And obviously, like women want to look 275 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: a certain way. Like I'm not saying for all women, 276 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: but I'm saying personally, I might not want to look 277 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: this way if I didn't do the heptath one. And 278 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I think right now, I have to see it as 279 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: an instrument for what I do, And so that means 280 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: this year I need to focus on what I do 281 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: in the weight room. I need to become more powerful 282 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: and for my body, that might mean gaining ten pounds, 283 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and I don't want to do that, but I think 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: if it's going to pay off for what I do, 285 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna make me a more successful athlete, 286 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I have the rest of my life to look how 287 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: I want to. Like right now, this is what is 288 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: going to work for me, and I have to accept 289 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: it and realize that it's okay to look that way 290 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: and you can still be very fit and very powerful 291 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: and still be ten twenty pounds of year. 292 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: Talk me through what it's like moving to the United States. 293 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think so many people think, oh, it's 294 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: probably just like Canada. It's so similar, like blend in 295 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: right away. And so first of all, Vancouver is very outdoorsy. 296 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: It's on the coast, so you see the mountains, you 297 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: see the ocean. And so I moved to the Midwest 298 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: right smack dab in the middle of the country, and 299 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: so I was like, where are the mountains? Like, I 300 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: don't even see any hills. What's going on? No hill? Yeah, 301 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: But what I was really happy with is that the 302 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: people there were so nice and I met so many 303 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: people that brought me to where I am right now. 304 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: I thought the people in the Midwest were really inviting. 305 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: I have to say portion sizes food and some of 306 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It was a shock even football games. 307 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about American football. I was like, 308 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: where's the hockey? 309 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 310 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: So, but I totally immerse myself, and I think at 311 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: first it maybe wasn't good because I just did everything 312 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: everyone else did. I just wanted to get the American 313 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: college experience, and so it took me about a year 314 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: or two to really figure myself out, especially athletically. 315 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: All Right, so you get to college and you are 316 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: figuring out what lane you want to drive in. I 317 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: feel like there's a track analogy I could have thrown 318 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: in there, but I'm just going to keep going with this. 319 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: So then talk to me about what it's like being 320 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: part of a team. 321 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting because track and field is technically an individual sport, 322 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: but you are competing for a team at university and 323 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: in the NCAA you get points for placement you get 324 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: at like say a Big Ten conference, TREMP and ships 325 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: or whatever conference you're in. So you're trying to do 326 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the best that you can for you but also for 327 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: your team's points. And so I think one of the 328 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: best things is that I had teammates for the first time, 329 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: teammates that did have tath on. I had teammates in 330 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: high school and in my club, but now there's people 331 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: that focus on the exact same thing that I do, 332 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: and so I can race them in the hurdles, or 333 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: we do hurdles and then we'll go over the high jumps. 334 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: So you're going through everything together. And then when you 335 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: get to a competition, you warm up with those teammates 336 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: and they're going through the same mental and physical struggles as 337 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: you do. So it's a really good opportunity to connect 338 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: with people and to to make friends that do that 339 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: have the same focus as you pretty much. And so yeah, 340 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I think college was such a good opportunity for that. 341 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I went to the US 342 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: for school, because I don't think I would have got 343 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: that opportunity otherwise. 344 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, And so you start competing and you probably start 345 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: traveling around the US as well, which was nice. 346 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Experience it was, and I think I started seeing how 347 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: competitive the INCITABLA was. And I had always been good 348 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: in high school or I had kind of been in 349 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: my own world, I guess in high school because not 350 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: many people could get to that elite level. And so 351 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: when I was in the NCBLA, I was like, Wow, 352 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are like me and 353 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: way better, and so I was like, how do I 354 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: elevate myself to that level? And so I struggle a lot, 355 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: and I think it was maybe my third year that 356 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: I actually figured it out and I started placing in 357 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: the Big ten. I remember my first my freshman year. 358 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: Everyone it was my first Big ten outdoor championship and 359 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: I was not in the best ship in my life, 360 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: and so I remember my teammates coming up to me 361 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: and being like, are you gonna continue the streak? Are 362 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: you gonna? And I was like what streak? Like what 363 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: are they talking about? And I had realized that someone 364 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: had won the Big ten Championshi for like ten years 365 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: in a row, and they were putting that pressure on 366 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: me to win. 367 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 368 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: And I was kind of and this was like two 369 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: days before maybe the championships, and so I was in 370 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, I have to win now, like 371 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I have to and I was like, people are going 372 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: to be upset. And I think that's my biggest fears 373 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: of disappointing other people, Like I disappoint myself a lot, 374 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: but I can cope with that. And so I think 375 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: it's hard when I know that I've disappointed someone else. 376 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: And so I put too much pressure on myself that 377 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: competition and I came forth and so nowhere, not even 378 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: on the podium. And I think that's where I was like, Okay, 379 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: I need to change something or I need to change 380 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: something mentally. I don't know what it is, but I'm 381 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: going to reflect back on what I've done and make 382 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: these next three years worth it. 383 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: So you make the shift. 384 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: But something interesting that you said was like you figured 385 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: out the unlock, like what was the unlocked to change 386 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: what had been happening. 387 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was the first time that I actually 388 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: had been through like some sort of conflict, I guess 389 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: internally and physically because I wasn't getting better for the 390 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: first time in my life, and I had always been 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: on a natural progression, and so I think this was 392 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: more of a I had to confront how I'm going 393 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: to make these next few years in college useful and 394 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: how I'm going to do something for the team. I'm 395 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: on a full ride scholarship and I can't. I have 396 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: to prove that to myself and that I deserve it. 397 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: And so I think after that, I was like, I'm 398 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: gonna start eating healthier. I'm not going to be so 399 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: defensive when people give me criticism. I'm going to absorb 400 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: all the advice that I can. And so that summer, 401 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: I went to the World champion or the World Junior 402 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: Championships in Oregon and I play seventh and fit again, 403 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: and I was like on the right track, and I 404 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is what it feels like. And 405 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I got a two hundred point PB and so I 406 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Like why maybe I needed to go 407 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: through that to figure something out. I had done that 408 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: a few different times in my college career in different ways, 409 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: whether it be figuring out how to live at a 410 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: US college, or on twenty seventeen going through one of 411 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: the worst injuries in my life and having to take 412 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: another step back, or last year when I had to 413 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: pull out of one of the biggest championships heptathlons, that 414 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: I've ever had to So it breaks your heart, but 415 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I think failure is really necessary to become successful, and 416 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: so when I go through those moments, I need to 417 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: realize that this, this can develop into something good, even 418 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: though it feels so horrible right now. 419 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: You also mentioned really bad injury, So what happened with that. 420 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: First injury, which is probably the worst one was in 421 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and I was also injured a bit of 422 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: last year as well, But I think the first injury 423 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: probably taught me the most, just because I had always 424 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: breezed through even if I wasn't getting better, I was 425 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: always healthy, and so I think this was the first 426 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: time where I had a successful year and then something 427 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: that I can't control, something out of my control, limited me, 428 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: and so I had to figure out how to deal 429 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: with that and how to work through it pretty much 430 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: because I was just devastated at why can't I complete 431 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: this or why can't I get better? Like why is 432 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: my foot not working? 433 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: Is that what was up? 434 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 435 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: I had this is scientific terms, but I had to 436 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: extend our digital and briefest strain in my foot. 437 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, don't even worry about it. 438 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: It's just every time I jumped, pretty much like high 439 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: jump or long jump, it would swell up and bruise 440 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: and it was just really painful. And so I got 441 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: MRI done and they had told me that what it was, 442 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: and I pretty much still had to compete at the 443 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: n CIBY Indoors and I had it all taped up. 444 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: And there's so many instances where I've seen athletes compete 445 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: through injury and they don't let anyone know. They're just 446 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: in their own head trying to struggle through it. And 447 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: it's really sad because you know what they're going through 448 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: and you know that they're not the best of their abilities, 449 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: but they still have to try and perform. And I 450 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: think it takes told more on you mentally because your 451 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: confidence is completely shot. You're like, maybe I'm not that 452 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: good or is this like the end of it? Or 453 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: how do I get better after recovering from such a 454 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: bad injury. 455 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: But the thing is is that you were that good 456 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: because as college went on, you really started to thrive 457 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: in your sport. 458 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: I think to get to this level it definitely took 459 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of mental and physical battles. I am this 460 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: good because of those adversities, and I think maybe if 461 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't forced to be like, Okay, you need to change, 462 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: then I might not be at the level that I'm at. 463 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: For someone like me and someone who's considers themself to 464 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: be strong minded, or someone who is brought up to 465 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: be tough, I think when you experience adversity, it seems 466 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: like it's the worst thing in the world. But when 467 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: you push through it and you learn from it, it 468 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: makes you such a better athlete. I think especially this 469 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: last year and to eighteen, when I had to pull 470 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: out with a plant of feshitis, I realized that here 471 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: we go again, here's another injury. What's it going to 472 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: do to me this time? And in a good way, 473 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: because I remember writing down at that moment like this 474 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: feels so horrible. I don't want to feel like this again. 475 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: You're just shut down. You're at like your weakest moment. 476 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: But it's been a couple months now and I'm back 477 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: on the positive train. So you just need to get 478 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: through those moments because it will get better. It's just 479 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: in that moment you feel like it's the worst thing 480 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: that could ever happen to you. 481 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: Of course, and it's been a little while now since 482 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: you've graduated from college. When did you have to pull 483 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: out of that competition? 484 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: So it was very recent. It was last year, and 485 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: it was my first year as a professional athlete with 486 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: under Armour, and my sites were set on the World Championships. 487 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: I'd been to an indoor World Championships in twenty sixteen, 488 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: but I hadn't been to an outdoor World Championships, and 489 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: I thought this would be really good opportunity to gain 490 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: experience going into twenty twenty as Olympic hopeful. And so 491 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to make the world team. 492 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I want to go to Katar, I want to compete 493 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: on a world stage. And I didn't think anything was 494 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: going to stop me from doing that. And I trained 495 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: really hard, probably too hard because I had my sight 496 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: set on that, and an injury came up with plant 497 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: fasci itis, and I was like, not now, not now, 498 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: it can't happen now, train through it, whatever, Just go 499 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: through it like you're tough. You could do this, and 500 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: so that was not a good decision, and it just 501 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: got worse and I didn't treat my body well. It 502 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: taught me a big lesson. 503 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: What for those listeners that don't know exactly is plantar 504 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: fasci i itis. 505 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, I think I wish I knew more about 506 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: it too. I did learn a bit about it, but 507 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: it's the tendon that runs down the bottom of your 508 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: foot and it's completely inflamed. I think I had a 509 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: partial tear in it as well, and so it's just 510 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: a lot of pain in the heel and the start 511 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: of your heel to the middle of your arch, and 512 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: so for sprinting and coming off the hurdle is probably 513 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: the most painful. A lot of people had told me 514 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: that I just had a bone bruise on my heel, 515 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: and it did feel like that. It just felt like 516 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: ripping every time that I would take a step, and 517 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: so yeah, and it got to the point where I 518 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: couldn't really walk, but I'm still willing to train, which 519 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: is very stupid. I had such a focus on where 520 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: I was going that year, and so I think I 521 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: wasn't very smart with knowing that it's not the end 522 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: of the world. If I don't do that, I need 523 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm healthy before anything. And so that's 524 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: the approach that I'm taking this year. 525 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk up LinkedIn 526 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: jobs now, I am the kind of girl boss that 527 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: likes to believe that she can do everything. But the 528 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: reality is is that it's okay to ask for help 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: whether you are looking to hire someone for an internship, 530 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: part time or full time position. LinkedIn Jobs makes the 531 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: whole process super simple from start to finish. It's no 532 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: wonder a person is hired every eight seconds with LinkedIn 533 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: find the right person for your business today. With LinkedIn jobs, 534 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: you can pay what you want and get the first 535 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: fifty dollars off. Just visit LinkedIn dot com slash hurdle again, 536 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: that's LinkedIn dot com slash hurdle to get fifty dollars 537 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: off your first job post. 538 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: Let's get back to hurdling. 539 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: Talk to me about the actual experience of pulling out 540 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: of that meat. 541 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: I had trained for a couple weeks after my first teptathlon, 542 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and I knew that I had a couple of big 543 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: competitions coming up, and one of them being the Canadian Championships, 544 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: and then I had already been named to the PanAm 545 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: Team American team, and that was another senior team that 546 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: was a really big opportunity and I had an opportunity 547 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: to win that, and so I was like, I really 548 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: want to go, and I declared I had been confirmed 549 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: on the team, and so I went to the Canadian Championships. 550 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Everyone was there, like my family and my coach is 551 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: in Toronto. And it wasn't run very well, like I 552 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: don't think hept athletes are often taking good care of, 553 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: especially in Canada, And so what do you mean by that? 554 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: It just means that the meat was quite disorganized. I'd 555 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: been the NCAA for so long and they do everything 556 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: so professionally, and so they know when you're called out, 557 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: They have your BIB numbers, they have everything. They have 558 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: you in heats that are set up to accommodate how 559 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: fast you are and people with similar times, and so 560 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: at this competition, I was quite disappointed with the organization 561 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: because we were just treated like, oh, they just have athletes. 562 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: They'll just go out there and do their thing and 563 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: we'll just put them on the line. And so there 564 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: was no call room anything. You just we did our 565 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: two hundred in the middle of like a memorial service. 566 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: It was so unorganized and so and this is supposed 567 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: to be my Canadian Championships and so I was already 568 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: kind of like totally put off guard. I was upset 569 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: about the meat, and I was trying to perform well 570 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: in those conditions, and I was hurting at the same time, 571 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: and so everything just put together. I was like, I 572 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be here, like I don't want to 573 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: The first day didn't go very well, and after the 574 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: two hundred, I was limping off, probably because we didn't 575 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: get much warm up or the conditions weren't right to 576 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: perform well. And I remember someone asking like, oh, Georgia, 577 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: you're okay, like you look like you're limping, and I 578 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I'm fine, just sore, Like I'm 579 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: just sore. And so I was even lying to myself, 580 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: and I was very nervous of whether or not I 581 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: would be able to finish, because I still had three 582 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: more events the next day. And at that point it 583 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: wasn't even like I need to perform well, it was 584 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: I need to finish this heptath on. So my mind 585 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: totally shifted. I went home I tried to recover the 586 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: best that I could in the time that I had, 587 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: and then the next morning, I couldn't put weight on 588 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: my foot. I couldn't do anything. But I still had 589 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: my mindset that I was going to compete, and so 590 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I showed up the track completely not engaged in the competition. 591 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I didn't warm up at all because I knew if 592 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: I jogged, I would just be confronted with the terror 593 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: that my foot wasn't going to be okay. And I 594 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: showed up the long jump, put my shoes on. I 595 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not even gonna do a run through. 596 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm just going to step on the line and try 597 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: and do this because there for me, there was no alternative. 598 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I was going to finish like I don't care how 599 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: painful it was. And then I like rocked back to 600 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: go to take my first step, and I just like 601 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: started crying, and I went over to my coach and 602 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the most painful thing I've 603 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: ever experienced, and he just said and my mom was 604 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: there too, and they're like, you don't have have to finish, Like, 605 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: don't don't do this yourself. There's bigger things in life 606 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: than this. Moment right now, and I just I was 607 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: so overwhelmed by the thought of not being able to 608 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: finish ap tathlon. I'd never done that in my life, 609 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: and I had prided myself from doing that, like I've 610 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: always finished the competition. And in my head, I'm like, 611 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: I can't pull out, I can't not finish. I'm quitting 612 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: like that. I've never quit in my life. I've always 613 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: finished something. And so I couldn't even stay to watch 614 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the competition. I was just like, get 615 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: me out here, like I need to figure out what's wrong. 616 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: And my parents just kept saying like this isn't it, 617 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Like this isn't something you need to be upset about 618 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: right now. You're not going to go to the world, 619 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: so you just have to accept that. And next year 620 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: is a bigger year. Would you rather make your run 621 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: for Tokyo or would you rather suffer right now? And 622 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: so I decided that I was just going to put 623 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: all my folks into making sure what was wrong was 624 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: fixed in the next few months. And I think I 625 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: took the necessary steps because I was so focused on that. 626 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: All the focus that I had in that competition was 627 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: now shifted to getting what was wrong right. I think 628 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: it's paid off and my my perspective has changed again 629 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: because of it. 630 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: How did you? How did you rehab that? 631 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: So I went to a bunch of different doctors. I 632 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: had done a bit of shockwave therapy on it, which 633 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: was really really painful, and I figured out that it 634 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: might not be smart to do that if I had 635 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: a tear. I looked. I went to someone who did 636 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: PRP injections, and I talked to other athletes who had 637 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: been through similar situations, and they said that this was 638 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: a good option. And in my head, I was like, 639 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I will try anything that anyone says I don't. It's 640 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: at its worse point. It can't get worse. And so 641 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just I'll just try it. And 642 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: so we met with a couple of doctors and this 643 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: was really a good doctor, and I was like, let's 644 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: just go through with it. I don't care how much 645 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: it costs, I don't care anything. I just want to 646 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: do this. I want to get it better. So it 647 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: took a couple I'm still recovering. Like I think, peer 648 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: P takes about six months to fully have its full effect, 649 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: and so every day it's seeming to get better. So 650 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: it's just a long process and you have to trust it. 651 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I had Collin Quigley on the pod, and 652 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: she's had a bunch of different bouts of PRP in 653 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: different areas, and she also, you know, had to swallow 654 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: a tough pill last year and take a seat out 655 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: at the World Championships. It's definitely not a magic pill. 656 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of research that needs to be 657 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: done on the procedure and what it does for the body. 658 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 2: And I am, by no means an expert, but what 659 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: I do know is that it's definitely becoming something that 660 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: you're hearing about a lot more right now. 661 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And that's the thing I don't My experience 662 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: is really good. Someone else's might not be that good. 663 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: But I think I had the right team behind me 664 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: when I did it, and I had the right mindset 665 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: in terms of recovery to get back and stronger than 666 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: I was, and so all lost combined worked really well 667 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: for me. So it might not work for somebody else, 668 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: but in my case it. 669 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: Did because what's happening during this procedure is they're just 670 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: spinning your own blood and putting it back into your body, 671 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: and a lot of it. It's bizarre, and I think 672 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: that a lot of people are like, well, what is that? 673 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: Is that like foreign stuff that's going into your body? 674 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: Is this? I mean, I've written articles with people wondering 675 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: if it's if it's getting a leg up or if 676 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: it's cheating, and the answer to that is absolutely not. 677 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: But I mean there's still research to be done and 678 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: it's still like a relatively new technology that people are 679 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: messing with. 680 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And I think the other option was 681 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: quarter zone And I had gotten a quarter zone shot 682 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: and tened ice in my wrists many times, and it's 683 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: pretty much just masking the pain, and so I could 684 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: manage it for a couple months and then it would 685 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: come back and it would break down the cartilage and 686 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: be a bit worse. And so that was an option, 687 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: but that would only be for quick recovery, Like if 688 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: I needed to do a competition in a month, I 689 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: would get a quarter zone shot, but it's not long 690 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: term healing, and that's exactly what I want. So if 691 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: I had months to spend on recovery, PUREP would be 692 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: a good option. And so that's why it was the 693 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: best option for me. It makes sense, makes sense. 694 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so then tell me what does life and training 695 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: look like for you now? 696 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I still live in Madison, Wisconsin for the 697 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: majority of the year. This will probably my last year there, 698 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: but I still trained with the same coach and a 699 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: couple other professional athletes there, and I live by myself, 700 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: but we every day is such a routine and I'm 701 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: such not I'm not a routine type person, and so 702 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to do that, to eat breakfast 703 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: at this time, go to training at this time, recover 704 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: at this time, lift it this time, physio at this time, 705 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: and so I need a break every now and then, 706 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: whether that's just training somewhere else or changing up my 707 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: meal prep or anything like. But for athletics, I think 708 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: a routine is really important. It might sound boring to 709 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: the average person, but athletics is such a lifestyle, so 710 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: you kind of have to get in a routine to 711 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: make sure that what you're doing is paying off. And 712 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: I think I read something that it takes six weeks 713 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: for any strength exercise to actually have an effect. So 714 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: you can't do something really well one day and be like, oh, 715 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm a different athlete, Like you have to stay consistent 716 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: with your training for it to actually work. And so 717 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I get up at like seven thirty eight and make 718 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: breakfast and then go to training. We lift at ten 719 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: and then I have a track session after. So my 720 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: training can sometimes go from like ten till. 721 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: Five, and. 722 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: It's a long day and I don't think I have 723 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time for anything else, and it's exhausting. 724 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: So you'll come home and make dinner, do something that 725 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: you actually enjoy that's off the track, and then to 726 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: go to sleep. 727 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: So and that's it. 728 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not too And I'm I would consider myself 729 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: to be an adventurous or kind of spontaneous person. So 730 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I know, if I discipline myself enough to have a 731 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: routine every day and to know that it works for 732 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: my sport, then I could reward myself after with something adventurous, 733 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: something spontaneous, something that isn't so regimented, like what traveling 734 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: but not traveling for sport, traveling for leisure. Yeah, and uh, 735 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: or just going into the mountains for a little while, 736 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: or yeah, I just hang out with friends that aren't 737 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: athletes sometimes it's nice to get Then we don't talk track, 738 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's like we talk just regular person stuff. 739 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: And we we just be goofy, you know, and sometimes 740 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: you need that outlet. 741 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you are twenty four, so you're pretty young, 742 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: and you need an outlet because you're like, what's the word. 743 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm in awe of how diligent you are with your sport, 744 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: which is obviously kind of goes hand in hand with 745 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: making it your full time thing. But it's so important 746 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: that you realize how important it is to have some 747 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: time to blow off steam and to not be training, 748 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: and that you can do both. What would you say 749 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: that some of your hobbies are right now. 750 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm a creative, artsy person, so I like painting and drawing. 751 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: I would do that to kind of like a therapy 752 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: if I'm stressed or if I need something outside of 753 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: track or just outdoor stuff. I'm outgoing, so anything like 754 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: in the mountains or even last week I was surfing 755 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: in Australia, so something like that. Just something cross training 756 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: like climbing and stuff like that. So I'm always open 757 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: to try new things, and I like meeting other athletes 758 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: so they can introduce me to that. 759 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: Will there be a time where it gets to be 760 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: just like very strict training going into the Olympics. 761 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Sadly, I think there has to be, just because I 762 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: think I have to use all of my time to 763 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: prepare for it, and I can still have hobbies when 764 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: i'm but nothing that really distracts from it. And I 765 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: think I need to be zoned in and I can 766 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: do that for however many months, and I don't think 767 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: I've ever really dedicated myself to the point where like 768 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm completely zoned in and I make major lifestyle changes. 769 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: And so this year I'm going to experiment with that 770 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: and see, because I just don't want any excuse, like 771 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: if I don't make the Olympic team, I don't want 772 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: to be like maybe it was because of this, or 773 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: maybe because I did go on that trip, or maybe 774 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't change my diet enough. And so I think 775 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm just going to completely go full throttle and see 776 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: if that's what it takes. 777 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: Hey, I mean I can respect that. I think you 778 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: got to go full throttle, man, And you said try 779 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 2: to take away those distractions. You have a very large 780 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: social media following. Talk to me about how it's been 781 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: kind of handling that and managing that and not allowing 782 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: that to distract you. 783 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of people sometimes they get 784 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: rid of their social media because it's distracting or because 785 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: they're using too much of their time online stuff like that. 786 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: And I'd like to say that I haven't had a 787 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: problem where it really interferes with my training or my 788 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: personal life, because there's always going to be people that 789 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, common hate stuff, or people who aren't liking 790 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: what you're doing, or people who love to be like 791 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: Instagram coaches as they say, so and so. So many 792 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: times I want to want to say something, but you 793 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: think about it for maybe a minute or two, and 794 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: then you get over it, like it's really not that 795 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: big of a deal. And so I think what's important 796 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: to me is that if I'm showing a little bit 797 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: of who I am online, then I can just be 798 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: who I am offline, too, and so I don't have 799 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: that weighing on me a lot. 800 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: So I think about that a lot. I mean, how 801 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: much of the time are you putting into people that 802 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: you don't know versus people that you do know and 803 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 2: making sure that you're bringing your positive energy to both places. 804 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 2: I am definitely the kind of person that I don't 805 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: love confrontation. I really try to treat everyone with kindness, 806 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: whether I know you or not. But sometimes it definitely 807 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: gets to you when someone has an opinion that's like 808 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: your stance on walking away from a competition where you're 809 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: injured and there's nothing you can do about it. I 810 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: can't always change someone's opinion about what I'm doing or 811 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: what's going on, but I have to be willing to 812 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: let that go and understand that that comes with the 813 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 2: territory of being someone who shares publicly, who's open, and 814 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: who's trying to do good. 815 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Like you said, I think I have to accept that 816 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: if I'm going to share something with other people, then 817 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: I have to be willing to also accept what they 818 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: have to say about it. And so if I'm going 819 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: to share a running video and I know people have 820 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot to say about my running technique, I just 821 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: have to let them say what they want to say 822 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: because I'm on my own track, Like I'm not going 823 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: to go online and be like, oh, maybe i should 824 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: do this because this person commented at this, like I've 825 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: never thought that, And so I trust the people that 826 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: are there physically in my life and who are there 827 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: like really helping me, and so I don't let things 828 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: like that get to me. But there are moments where 829 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't post online things that I like to keep, 830 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: like maybe friendships or relationships that I keep offline, And 831 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: people wonder why I keep it offline because today so 832 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: much is shown online. But the only way that I 833 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: explain it to them is that, like this is for me, 834 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: Like this isn't for everyone else, Like this is something 835 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: that I like to keep private because it's like one 836 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: thing that I don't have to share with everyone. And 837 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: so it's almost more important that you're not shown on 838 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: my social media because that's only for me and you. 839 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: A lot of your followers will come to your page 840 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: and they will see a young woman who is excelling 841 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 2: and gearing up for a big year in Tokyo. When 842 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 2: you look in the mirror, what is it that you 843 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: see looking back at you. 844 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: I've matured as an athlete to the level where I 845 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: won't say something unless I really believe that I can 846 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: do it. And so the fact that I'm saying that 847 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: I can be on an Olympic team is like really 848 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: really big for me, because I would always hide that before. 849 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: If I don't have one hundred percent confidence in what 850 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm capable of, then I won't say it to anyone, 851 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: and I think that's different than a lot of people. 852 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: I think people say speak it into existence, but I'm 853 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: totally not like that. I like to believe wholeheartedly something 854 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: for myself, and then I can tell somebody else, because 855 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: I think I need to see the reality in it, 856 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: and I need to be real with everyone else as 857 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: I am with myself. And when I see myself now, 858 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: I just believe what I'm capable of. And if I 859 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: think that I'm capable of making the twenty twenty team, 860 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: then then I wouldn't be I wouldn't be speaking of 861 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: it if I don't think that I'm capable of it. 862 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 2: I dig it. All right, we're winding down here. My 863 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 2: last question for you. You have an opportunity, reflecting on 864 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 2: when you had to pull out of that heptathlon. You 865 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: have an opportunity right now to give yourself a piece 866 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 2: of advice going through that hurdle moment. Looking back on it, 867 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: what would you tell yourself. 868 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: Failure is one of the best things that could happen 869 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: to you. It's okay to be sad in that moment, 870 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: but just to know that there's a light and to 871 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: know that if you don't failure, won't succeed. And I 872 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: didn't think failure was in an equation for success, but 873 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: now I know that it fully is, and I see 874 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: that through other athletes all the time, and so I 875 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: just need to trust that in myself and to know 876 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: what to do when I'm confronted with that. 877 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: Again, thank you so much for sitting down. 878 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. Please take a quick moment and leave a 879 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: review of the podcast by clicking the link with the 880 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 2: description to this episode. We all face multiple hurdleism life. 881 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: I want to hear about yours. Reach Out to me 882 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: at Emily at hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast 883 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast Georgia. Tell me 884 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: where can they find you? How do they keep up 885 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: with you? Give me the details. 886 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm on Instagram mostly. I have Twitter too, 887 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: but I don't I don't engage the followers as much. 888 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: So my Instagram handle is George Underscore A h H 889 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: H three. 890 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: H s A H H H George George ah so calming. 891 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: I am at Emily a body another hurdle conquered. Catch 892 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 2: you guys next time.