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Speaker 1: The best spot on your farm has bad access, then

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Speaker 2: And today we're diving into a topic that we've all

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Speaker 2: likely ran into at some point. And so this might

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Speaker 2: have been when you're summer scouting. Maybe it's from last year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's this a spot that comes to mind and

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Speaker 2: it has bad access. And so I wrangled up the

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Speaker 2: panel of experts Steve Hanson, Don Higgins, Bobby Kendall, Jeff Sturgis,

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Speaker 2: Skip Slide, Bill Winky, Thomas Milsna, and Mark Kenyon to

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Speaker 2: ask the question, the best botto my farm has bad access?

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Speaker 2: Should I hunt it? How do I hunt it? And

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Speaker 2: as you're listening, to this. You probably have a spot

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Speaker 2: like this in the back of your mind, So this

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Speaker 2: is going to help you evaluate the risk versus reward

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Speaker 2: for this upcoming season and get a couple different opinions

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Speaker 2: and see what expert on the panel fits your hunting

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Speaker 2: style the most. Because all these guys are really efficient

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Speaker 2: at deer hunting, but they all have their own take

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Speaker 2: on how to potentially hunt a spot like this or

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Speaker 2: maybe not hunt a spot like this. So without further ado,

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Speaker 2: let's get into the earning question and whitetail dilemma for

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Speaker 2: this week on back forty. First up, we have Thomas Milsna.

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Speaker 2: Thomas hunts a permission property, shared permission property, still very

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Speaker 2: active with strategizing, planning and proving a property. But here's

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Speaker 2: what he has to say on whether you should hunt

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Speaker 2: a spot with bad access even if it's really good.

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Speaker 1: The best spot on your farm has bad access, it's

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Speaker 1: not the best spot on your farm, right, So there's

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Speaker 1: two ways to look at that. The best spot for

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Speaker 1: deer isn't always the best spot to hunt deer, and

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Speaker 1: understanding that is is what's going to determine your success

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Speaker 1: or destroy that spot and push that deer activity elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: potentially on the neighborhoods property. And I've made this mistake

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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. You find a spot and you're like, yes,

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Speaker 1: this is it, right. You get that feeling that like

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Speaker 1: big buck Spidey sense hair and back of your neck raised.

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Speaker 1: As you walk into that spot. You can smell it.

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Speaker 1: You can almost like smell the buck, you know, you

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Speaker 1: must literally can't, yeah, exactly that musky smell. But you

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Speaker 1: have to understand first and foremost, I'm going to look

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Speaker 1: at what the wind direction is doing in a spot

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Speaker 1: like that, And you also have to look at it objectively,

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Speaker 1: because if you're there scouting that one moment in time,

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Speaker 1: that one set of conditions, it's going to be dramatically

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Speaker 1: different at four thirty pm when the shadows hit that hillside,

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Speaker 1: or at you know, five am, or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: So you have to think about it holistically from a

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Speaker 1: and the greater landscape and how they air and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is moving. And if you can put together

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Speaker 1: a really good plan, you know, in relation to where

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Speaker 1: deer coming from and where they're going and how to

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Speaker 1: get in and out of there, then then yes, you

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Speaker 1: can you can hunt it right, But if you can't,

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Speaker 1: then the next step is you need to look at

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Speaker 1: again where deer coming from, where they're going, and can

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Speaker 1: I intercept them coming to and from If you're in

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Speaker 1: hill country. A lot of your really awesome spots with

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Speaker 1: a lot of sign are oftentimes those thermal hubs. And

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Speaker 1: the reason deer love to be there is because they

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Speaker 1: It's usually in some type of security cover, either surrounded

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Speaker 1: And then that's where you know every year is building

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is a good spot. Maybe maybe if I

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Speaker 1: Out how to hunt it, I'm just gonna slip in

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Speaker 1: And then a tactic that I love to employ with

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Speaker 1: You know, one camera might be like an inventory camera, right,

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Speaker 1: outside in areas that you are for sure able to

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Speaker 1: reference that information, you know, whether it's sell cams a

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Speaker 1: good cell service. So that's something to think about too,

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Speaker 1: And then just let it soak. Hunt those fringes, but

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Speaker 1: hunt safe and smart. Just don't go in there all crazy,

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Speaker 1: because again, you just don't know. And if you do,

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Speaker 1: make sure you've got your milk weed and you're checking

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Speaker 1: the wind like crazy, so that if if you fail epically,

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Speaker 1: at least you learn from that situation. But it just

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Speaker 1: flat out not every good spot for deer is a

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Speaker 1: good spot to hunt, you know. And then when we

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Speaker 1: it's going with that is a habitat. So if you

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Speaker 1: understand where deer are coming from, where they're going, how

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Speaker 1: can you either increase cover to get into that spot

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Speaker 2: So basically with that that in mind, for someone that

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Speaker 2: has this, almost every I mean there's farms that I

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Speaker 2: the challenge of risk first reward and then and that's

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Speaker 2: why I'm interviewing some of the best, most successful experts,

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people that would say, just

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Speaker 2: And there's probably scenarios where that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me give you a perfect example of this.

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Speaker 1: The buck that I killed from the ground in his

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Speaker 1: those spots. That is a fantastic spot. It holds deer,

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Speaker 1: tons of sign in there. It's a thermal hub. And

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Speaker 1: this is where I've made the mistakes before. I've went

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Speaker 1: in there many times. If I in fact thinking about

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Speaker 1: just almost impossible. But there is in every single situation,

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Speaker 1: there is a time and a way to get in there.

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Speaker 1: Understanding that airflow, understanding and using cover, all of these

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Speaker 1: the last two deer that I've killed were from the

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Speaker 1: me proving to myself this exact thing that I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is there is always a way to do it, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes it is so specific that you can't go in

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Speaker 1: hang a set, which was my situation, right, Like, if

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Speaker 1: I get up in that elevation, now I don't have

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Speaker 1: a shot. If I get up in that elevation, now

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Speaker 1: deer can see me. I have to maintain cover the

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Speaker 1: whole time. If I go in to this tree stand

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Speaker 1: an hour before dark, the thermals are in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: So I need to come in ten minutes before dark.

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Speaker 1: You know, whatever time it is, however that works out.

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Speaker 1: But there is always a time and place. It just

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Speaker 1: might be more work or out of a lot of

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Speaker 1: people's comfort zones. And that's where the beauty or the

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Speaker 1: ability to modify your situation or improve your situation really

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Speaker 3: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: That's what Thomas has to say when it comes to

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Speaker 2: this dilemma, and I think that potentially his strategy makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And we're going to get into

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Speaker 2: the next one with Bill Winki. I'd say Bill's a

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Speaker 2: the years. And here's what he has to say on

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Speaker 2: whether it's worth the risk to go in and hunt

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Speaker 6: You know, I've come up with my own approach to

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Speaker 6: this now that I tell people this approach and they

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Speaker 6: really the deer hunting comes down to it's just a simple,

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Speaker 6: that they're being hunted. Since they know they're being hunted,

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Speaker 6: then they're not going to move naturally. And as boat lenders,

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Speaker 6: we have to have natural movement because deer drives and

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Speaker 6: They're not very effective for the boat owners. So we

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Speaker 3: That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 6: So if they if you can't get in and out

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Speaker 6: can't get out without the beer, knowing, well, maybe you

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Speaker 6: Season you better be very sparing in when you play

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Speaker 6: and they start, you know, they lose that natural movement

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Speaker 6: that you need, or you can't hunt it at all

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Speaker 6: and just hunt the fringes of that area. Like let's

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Speaker 6: say you got this perfect funnel on a let's say

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Speaker 6: it's an eighty acre property and there's this perfect funnel,

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Speaker 6: and then if I can just sit there, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: kill that buck. I'm happy. Well, you can kill that buck.

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Speaker 6: You're after a whole lot of places on that eighty

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Speaker 6: acre property. Don't get married to a spot that's not

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Speaker 6: easy to hunt, or it's not easy to hunt.

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Speaker 3: Without being TechEd.

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Speaker 6: But that way and the other approach, and this is

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Speaker 6: what I'm gonna play with a little bit more of

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Speaker 6: this year. You just stayed to stay in there, you know.

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Speaker 6: Then you know I did that one season on hunted

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Speaker 6: Buck for twelve days and never once slept in my

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Speaker 3: At least educate some here.

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Speaker 6: You could play in the game that way too, But again,

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Speaker 3: It's my philosophy.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to have all the information. I kind

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be in that position where I'm

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Speaker 6: I want to just hunt and hunt and then be

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Speaker 6: we have too much information available, because there's a balance,

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Speaker 2: So that's all Bill has to say about that for now.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get into skips Lie on his take on

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Speaker 2: this same question and dilemma we've all faced. All right, there,

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Speaker 2: I was shed hunting. I remember last year. There's a

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Speaker 2: But the axis is really bad. How do I hunt it?

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Speaker 2: Should I hunt it?

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Speaker 5: You should hunt it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess most people listening to this, and maybe

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Speaker 4: I'll just make a assumption with you that you're a

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Speaker 5: So I do this even to this day.

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Speaker 4: So let's just put this in the rut hunting category,

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Speaker 4: This one's cliche, this one everybody's heard a million times.

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Speaker 5: I go there. I'll sit all day, and.

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Speaker 4: If you screw something up, that's part of the game too,

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Speaker 4: So I would just go in there strategically, don't over

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Speaker 4: You know, if I tried it, so this one's gonna

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Speaker 4: When I come to better states that weren't as pressured,

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Speaker 5: Well that's what I came from.

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Speaker 4: And when I went to the Better States, where I'm

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Speaker 4: The bear matt pressure went in and went in there

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Speaker 4: October twelve. Just don't go in there like three times

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Speaker 4: How how much risk are you willing to take on things?

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Speaker 4: And I like that, especially with deer hunting. What's the downside?

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Speaker 4: The downside I don't get a deer, Okay, no big deal.

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Speaker 4: It's not like I'm like risking all the all of

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Speaker 5: It's it's a deer. So that's why I like.

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Speaker 4: I like putting a little bit of risk in there,

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Speaker 3: That's what Skip has to say.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception with a lot of these

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Speaker 3: How do I hunt? Where do I start? Should I?

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Speaker 7: what else is there. If you don't have good access,

435
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 7: you don't have a good stand. All other factors thrown

436
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 7: out the wind.

437
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.

438
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 7: It starts with good access. And I remember years ago

439
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 7: legendary bow hunter Roger Rothar said, whenever you hang a stand,

440
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 7: you should be able to instantly rattle off five or

441
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 7: six reasons why that stands there while you're putting it

442
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 7: in that tree. And at the time, you know, I

443
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 7: was just a young pop it didn't make too much

444
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 7: sense to me. It's like, well, you know, there's a

445
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 7: good tree, and twenty yards away there's a trail, so

446
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 7: that's why my stands here. Now it's way more than that,

447
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 7: and it starts with access. I put my stand in

448
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 7: this tree because I can access it across this open

449
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 7: field with a northwest wind straight in my face. That

450
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 7: same northwest wind is going to allow a buck to

451
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 7: walk past that tree and feel comfortable doing so. And

452
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 7: I plan to be here the first week of November

453
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 7: when the bucks are cruising. This is a spot that

454
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 7: aught a lot of cruising bucks should pass by. You know,

455
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 7: it's going to be better in the morning than the evening,

456
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 7: so I'm only going to hunt this spot in the morning.

457
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 7: In addition to all this, this giant oak tree right

458
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 7: in front of my stand tree is dropping acorns at

459
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 7: that time of the year. And you should be able

460
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 7: to just go on and on and on and make

461
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 7: a long list for why you put a stand in

462
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 7: a specific tree, But it all comes down to access.

463
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 7: If you don't have good access, it's not a good stand.

464
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: So if you can come up with six reasons but

465
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: access is not.

466
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 5: One of them, it's not a good stand. Don't hunt there.

467
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: If you followed down for any period of time, you

468
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: probably could have guessed that was going to be his

469
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: answer to this question. And his farm is exceptionally well

470
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: set up. He's very conservative when it comes to hunting,

471
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: but very aggressive when it comes to managing habitat and

472
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: setting up a farm. So in that scenario, you can

473
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: get away with being really conservative because you've been able

474
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: to develop the farm really well or figure out a

475
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: way to stack the odds in your favor and make

476
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: it to where you don't have to hunt the quote

477
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: unquote best spot if it has bad access.

478
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: Next up we have Steve Hanson. Here we go.

479
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 2: The best botto of my farm I feel has bad

480
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: or not great access. Okay, how do I hunt that spot?

481
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 8: Since you started off the conversation with it sounding like

482
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 8: it's more of a rout funnel type spot, so we're

483
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 8: going to be trying to access this location for a

484
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 8: rut hunt. What I'm gonna recommend is whatever path you

485
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 8: have that you think has the least amount of chances

486
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 8: of moving deer. But you're gonna have to go in

487
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 8: in the dark and come out in the dark. It's

488
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 8: gonna be all day sets. And then you're also going

489
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 8: to have to minimize the amount of trips that you

490
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 8: hunt it. Therefore, because every time you're hunting it, you're

491
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 8: using up some in potential, yeah, some potential. You know,

492
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 8: you're disrupting the flow of deer. So you want to

493
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 8: make sure you're hunting it on the peak prime days,

494
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 8: exactly right wind directions, not leaving anything to chance. And

495
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 8: once you use up one of your times of going

496
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 8: in there, you want to make the most of it

497
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 8: by sitting all day for sure, that'd be the biggest

498
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 8: thing that I could think, and going in extra early

499
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 8: coming out you do a lot less damage to the

500
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 8: you know, deer that are living on your farm, moving

501
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 8: in the dark, they're a different creature after dark. There

502
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 8: seemed more accepting of a little bit of intrusion. But

503
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 8: that's how I would manage that sort of of a situation.

504
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: So that might mean taking the long way, taking the.

505
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 8: Long way whatever it takes to do the minimum amount

506
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 8: of damage you can, and then staying you know the

507
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 8: greatest amount of time that you can to hunt that.

508
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: How many chances do you think you may have?

509
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: And I understand it's very situational, but you have decades

510
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: and decades of experience, You've helped a lot of people,

511
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, maybe navigate this exact scenario. Like how many

512
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: tries do you think you get? And the reason I

513
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: ask is because there's probably going to be a cold

514
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: front October twelfth and maybe you really maybe that's not

515
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: quite the time for this imaginary spot, right, I would

516
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: say eight out of ten guys are going to go

517
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: hunt that spot on that time that's not quite ready

518
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: to do that.

519
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, I would avoid that scenario. I would because

520
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 8: what you're going to do in that case, if it's

521
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 8: if it's a rut funnel and it's not that phase

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 8: of the rut, you're going to educate the local does

523
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 8: who's at whatever deer are using that place at that

524
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 8: time are going to become educated to it, and then

525
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 8: that's going to change how they're using that spot. So

526
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 8: I would avoid it until truly peaked days. How many

527
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 8: times you can hunt it, Like you said, every place

528
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 8: is different, but realistically three or four without too much,

529
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 8: I think, and you could still expect some you know,

530
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 8: you're doing a little bit of damage, but you should

531
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 8: get some success if you If in three or four

532
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 8: sits the place isn't working like you think it is,

533
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 8: it may not be the spot you think it is too.

534
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 8: You know, if you've given it the best days of

535
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 8: the year, gone in extra early, you know, three or

536
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 8: four times, you I would think you'd have an opportunity

537
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 8: or you know, see your target, bucker whatever. But if

538
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 8: it hasn't happened in three or four times, and I'd

539
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 8: reevaluate the whole situation.

540
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: I think Steve's answer is really relatable.

541
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: Make the timing right, go in there, take a swing

542
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: or two, hope for the best. If it is truly

543
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: the best spot and it has all the terrain features

544
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: that make sense, go for the fences, give it a try.

545
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably what most people would fall into.

546
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: But the key thing is being thoughtful and methodical when

547
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: you go in to the really good spot with really

548
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: bad access. Next up we have Jeff Sturgis. Jeff, I

549
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: would say, is a pretty conservative hunter. I'm also very

550
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: thoughtful with his access and everything else. So here's what

551
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: he has to share about it. Okay, the best spot

552
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: on my farm I postseason scattered it. I found this

553
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: awesome rut funnel. It's just tore up with sign and man,

554
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: I just feel like I need to hunt in there.

555
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: But access is so important. So the best spot on

556
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: my farm I feel has bad access. How do I

557
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: hunt this this area?

558
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 9: What's the bad access? Thanks ends on so this I'll

559
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 9: give you an example. Last year, Buck, I took over

560
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 9: a water hole. It's right along the back corner of

561
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 9: a field, the neighbors field that is full of deer

562
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 9: all night. It's a hidden corner from the road. It's

563
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 9: crazy because you drive by and people always think, like,

564
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 9: even with food plots, it's got to be this three

565
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 9: acre field. You got to make it in like quarter

566
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 9: acre half acre section, screen it off and all these deer.

567
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 5: Can use it.

568
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 9: Then, But how many times have you found a hidden

569
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 9: corner and a giant agg field and all the deer

570
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 9: there and like three or four acres Because it's the

571
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 9: one year that's the most important, and they don't mind

572
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 9: being on top of each other in a food source

573
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 9: like that as long as they're hidden. And so that's

574
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 9: kind of taught me a lot to even sectioning off

575
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 9: food plots. I think it's a.

576
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: Little bit overrated.

577
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 9: But in that area, if you walk into that stand location,

578
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 9: that's a beautiful rough funnel. It's a line will switch

579
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 9: grass on the outside. You go only about ten yards

580
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 9: into the woods and then you look down at a

581
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 9: bench system and then it drops off super steep from there.

582
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 9: It's like a bow tie. Everything comes into that funnel.

583
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 9: We have a water hole there which enhances the movement.

584
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 9: You don't create movement with the waterhole. You complement the

585
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 9: movement and make it a little bit better. It's like

586
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 9: a sweetener. But in that area, if I walk in

587
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 9: the morning, great rot funnel. If I walk there in

588
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 9: the morning, I'm going to spook deer. They're going to

589
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 9: be out in those fields and I'll likely ruin my

590
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 9: set before it even gets daylight. If I try to

591
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 9: go in there at three in the afternoon, it's getting

592
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 9: dark at six thirty. Then if I get out, I've

593
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 9: spoke in the stand.

594
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: It's a one and done.

595
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: I'm ruining the whole area.

596
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 9: So what I choose to do in a spot like that,

597
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 9: it's a post day break stand entrance, you're taking bad

598
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 9: access post daybreak stand entrance, you wait until the field clears.

599
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 9: You sit from three four hundred yards away, have a

600
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 9: little no I can sneak up, look over the coast

601
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 9: is clear, and then you walk straight into that stand location.

602
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 9: It's only ten yards off the woods. I'm only exposing

603
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 9: myself ten yards in that spot. It's a real narrow constriction.

604
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 9: Deer have to be right on top of me if

605
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 9: I walk in. I went in I think at seven

606
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 9: thirty last year, approximately half hour forty minutes after daylight,

607
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 9: and then shot them at eleven thirty. That and I

608
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 9: had to get out probably, you know, in that day

609
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 9: if it was getting dark at five thirty, I pro

610
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 9: I would have had to get out by two two

611
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 9: thirty because I don't want deer starting to get behind

612
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 9: me or my winds blown back out into the field.

613
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 9: That's one example. If you're on private land and you

614
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 9: have poor access, a lot of times that poor access

615
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 9: is determined by food source location. You're having to walk

616
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 9: through a food source location to get back to a

617
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 9: betting area. So you do that in the morning, you

618
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 9: spook them out. And I keep saying betting area. You

619
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 9: keep saying, you said rut funnel I'm thinking, I'm getting

620
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 9: to the backside of a betting area, wait for that

621
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 9: mature buck to come back that I'm targeting, And so

622
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 9: I look at like, for one, you go way around

623
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 9: that food source. We've had times where it's literally we're

624
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 9: on forty acres, it goes up four hundred and fifty

625
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 9: feet in elevation, and we're taking thirty seven minutes to

626
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 9: get to a stand if we take one one minute

627
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 9: break in thirty six minutes if you don't take a break,

628
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 9: but it's thirty six minutes uphill all the way around,

629
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 9: so that we're going all the way around the food,

630
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 9: get on top of the food three hundred and fifty

631
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 9: yards away and hundreds of feet in elevation above the food,

632
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 9: so you can wait for those deer to get back.

633
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 9: If you take the easier route, go through the food,

634
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 9: and it's a lot easier. We could take our we

635
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 9: could take a eat bike, we'd take our quiet cat

636
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 9: right up through there, right up the gut. But we

637
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 9: would we wouldn't we wouldn't have a hunt that morning.

638
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 10: And so.

639
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 9: Another another case, you might have food on private land

640
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 9: that's just ruining your hunt. I'd rather take that food

641
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 9: out and have good access so that I can get

642
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 9: to the backside of a bedding area and a rout

643
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 9: funnel stand like that, then have that food source and

644
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 9: not be able to get to that stand location because

645
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 9: every time I go in and out, I'm going to

646
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 9: blow that food out.

647
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: And then that.

648
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 9: Also means when we're getting into some of those stands,

649
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 9: one way, we're going out the food way, so we're

650
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 9: coming out at eleven o'clock through the food, or we

651
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 9: went way around that food at six am to get

652
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 9: into the stand before that time. You always have to

653
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 9: think about too, we're the deer down wind of your stand.

654
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 9: You know a lot of times people say, well forty

655
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 9: five minutes is that magic time to get in your

656
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 9: stand in the morning, an hour before daylight? Well, what

657
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 9: if the deer going through a horse pasture before, you know,

658
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 9: pre dawn, and they could go through that horse pasture

659
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 9: pre dawn. It's open, it's a it's a shortcut for

660
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 9: them to get to their bedding area, but they would

661
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 9: never go through that horse passure, open area or open

662
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 9: woods during daylight, especially a mature bock. So I don't

663
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 9: want to sit there for an hour blowing my scent

664
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 9: into that open area. I want to get there just

665
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 9: in time, and so I'm getting there just when it's

666
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 9: gray light, use a little bit of darkness to get

667
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 9: into my stand, and then I'm really only exposing my

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 9: wind in that area for five ten minutes before it

669
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 9: gets daylight, and I'm really limiting the amount of deer

670
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 9: that might get down wind to me before daylight. And

671
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 9: then there's some of those stands where it's just a

672
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 9: steep rock drop off, there's no deer, it's a lake,

673
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 9: it's a house or something you're blowing you're sent into

674
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 9: and you can get in there an hour early, get

675
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 9: in there really early. So then a lot of times,

676
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 9: you know, manipulation of the habitat, walking way around all

677
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 9: those are you know, parts of it. But at the

678
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 9: same time, using the timing of when to get into

679
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 9: a stand, whether that be a post daybreak just in

680
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 9: time or an hour before to get into a stand

681
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 9: to help with your access is really something needs to

682
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 9: be considered too.

683
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: Is there a part on your farm that you wish

684
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: you could hunt, but you just say, well, the axis

685
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: isn't good enough, I can't hunt there.

686
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 9: There's a lot of places like that we have you know.

687
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 9: I'll give you example that we hunted fourteen years in

688
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 9: Wisconsin and the stand location our property thirteen years get

689
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 9: mixed up time flies two properties two thousand and two

690
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 9: over there, but it was about thirty acres woods, and

691
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 9: there's a core area of about fifteen to eighteen acres

692
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 9: right in the middle of it that we could just

693
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 9: never go into. Could never even consider going into the

694
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 9: food plots there. We had three quarters of acre food plots.

695
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 9: Could never sit on them with a boat because they're

696
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 9: too big, they're too exposed, couldn't get in or out

697
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 9: without spoken deer, so we couldn't hunt on it. The

698
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 9: majority of my food plots in Minnesota on our farm,

699
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 9: we cannot hunt with a bow because we can't hunt

700
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 9: them without spooking deer.

701
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: There is one.

702
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 9: Hundred and forty acre area with field on the outside

703
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 9: about one hundred and ten acres of woods in the middle.

704
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 9: We bought the land in June of twenty twenty, and

705
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 9: I did not step foot other than a vehicle ride

706
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 9: with the real estate agent in April to look at

707
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 9: the inside of the property on three or four trails.

708
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 9: I didn't step foot in about one hundred acres out

709
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 9: of that one hundred and forty acres until after the

710
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 9: season in January, because I couldn't hunt it anyways. Because

711
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 9: I got in there, I just spoked deer. It was

712
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 9: in the center. It goes down in if I'm in there,

713
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 9: the wind's swirling. Now we since identified points that are

714
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 9: down there, and we can manipulate the wind a little bit,

715
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 9: or use wind in the morning to come down one

716
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 9: channel and go up another channel. That's an entirely different

717
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 9: topic of hunting hills and thermals. But even then there's

718
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 9: still that core area of probably eighty out of that

719
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 9: original one hundred acres we couldn't hunt. That we can't hunt,

720
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 9: and I'm okay with that. It's just kind of like

721
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 9: you just write it off. We've worked on the habitat

722
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 9: in there, and we've built bedding areas. I expect as

723
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 9: long as they can hold that deer in there during

724
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 9: the daylight, then we have a really good chance of

725
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 9: shooting that buck during the season. So and that goes

726
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 9: for a public land too. You don't want to identify

727
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 9: the best spot in the woods to hold mature box

728
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 9: to actually hunt. You want to identify those areas that

729
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 9: can be protected so you can hunt around them and

730
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 9: then being methodical and precise, take that buck to the

731
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 9: very high percentage of the time a year after year

732
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 9: that's in that spot because you preserve it. It's not

733
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 9: a woman dumb.

734
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: Once again, I think you can draw a parallel of

735
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: someone that's able to really design a parcel to have

736
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: it hunt really effectively. These folks are not going in

737
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: and hunting these spots, but if you fall into that category.

738
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: You have the ability to do that.

739
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind for this upcoming season of how

740
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: can I potentially make that best spot maybe a little

741
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: more accessible, How can I duplicate it? What can I

742
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: do to make it better? And that's what I got

743
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: from Jeff. Next up, we have Bobby Kendall. He hunts

744
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: a lot of different farms and has a lot of

745
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: projects going on at all different times, and so a

746
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: lot of times he's hunting on the fly and it's

747
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: maybe not a fully developed farm, maybe it's under construction,

748
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. And so here's what he has

749
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: to say about the dilemma we all face as deer hunters.

750
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Let's say someone says, man, I was shed hunting. I

751
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: remember from the last season there was this spot. The

752
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: axis is bad. I'm gonna bust your coming in and out.

753
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: There's not really a good spot for me to shoot

754
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: my win with a low probability of getting busted.

755
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: How do I hunt this spot? Or should I hunt

756
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: this spot?

757
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: All right?

758
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 11: So it kind of depends on it's situational, like the

759
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 11: time of year. So like in October, everything is always

760
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 11: risk reward. Is it worth the risk to go in

761
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 11: here to hunt?

762
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 5: All right? So last year we did a series.

763
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 11: On an undeveloped and versus developed farm, and the undeveloped

764
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 11: farm on the big start contrast is the access is

765
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 11: the nearest good because you're not creating perfect access. So

766
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 11: in October what it looks like is, you know, you

767
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 11: have to you have to pick your days. And for me,

768
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 11: those days are what I call magic X day. It's

769
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 11: a day where the pressure is rising and cloud covers falling,

770
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 11: humidity's falling, temperatures falling, and the perfect days that you

771
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 11: know the Brona crosses like thirty point two by the

772
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 11: evening sit So those are the days I'm looking for,

773
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 11: and I'm only going in when risk reward tips and

774
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 11: it's worth the risk to go in because I have

775
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 11: a high chance of seeing him that night. So October

776
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 11: pick the night's high pressure fronts the day the first

777
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 11: day of the high pressure. Now in November, you know

778
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 11: it kind of it gets more forgiving, so you can

779
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 11: get a little bit more aggressive. Plus you're hunting different

780
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 11: type spots on that particular farm. I didn't start hunting

781
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 11: that deer until November, and he was way back in

782
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 11: the back of the farm. I had to literally go

783
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 11: through like four or five bean fields in order to

784
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 11: get back where he was he was at, and I

785
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 11: had a really good funnel rough funnel stand back there,

786
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 11: but the access I know I was going to blow

787
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 11: the whole farm up going back there. So what my

788
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 11: strategy was was wait till eight thirty nine in the morning,

789
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 11: come up here, glass my way back to the stand,

790
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 11: and hunt these inside corner funnels. Because inside corner funnels

791
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 11: are awesome because your wind is always good for you,

792
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 11: and it's also generally good for the deer because you're

793
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 11: on the down wind side of the cover and it's

794
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 11: a funnel. So I was hunting these inside corners because

795
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 11: the access is so good to the inside corner. So

796
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 11: maybe you don't go to your best spot yet because

797
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 11: the access is better than these inside corners. And then

798
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 11: you hunt toll like two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon,

799
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 11: and from you know, the fourth or fifth to the thirteenth,

800
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 11: the deer were after the big mature one. I would

801
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 11: rather hunt that time period anyway. And so then you're

802
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 11: in the farm and you're out of the farm on

803
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 11: a knee bike. Maybe you're not leaving scent and so

804
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 11: you're you're hedging that pressure. And then maybe when things

805
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 11: are just the electricity goes off and you're just the light.

806
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 11: I mean, you're just like it's on fire. That's when

807
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 11: you can dive into those spots and it's like you almost.

808
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: Can do no wrong.

809
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 11: I mean, I remember a deer coming down winding me

810
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 11: at one o'clock in the afternoon one year, big mature

811
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 11: deer looked up at me, smelled me, took off, and

812
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 11: I killed him in the same spot the next night.

813
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 11: Like so you know, it's like at a certain point,

814
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 11: that's when you die. It's like a it's like a

815
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 11: it's like a laddering up. It's like a risk reward,

816
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 11: and the further we get into the chaos, it starts

817
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 11: tipping and you just gotta be able to gauge when

818
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 11: to when to throttle her up and take a risk.

819
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 11: And for me, a lot of times, like opening day

820
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 11: one season, I'm like, this is ground zero. I'm gonna

821
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 11: be in a tree somewhere. I don't even know what tree.

822
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go in there in the dark and a

823
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 11: climber and I'm gonna be perched. Yeah, that would be

824
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 11: like the ultimate, like because that's when I get the

825
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 11: gun in the hand and all of a sudden, the

826
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 11: risk reward.

827
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: And there's so many tangibles happen on you know, any

828
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: opening firearm day right right across the country. Two questions,

829
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: how many Magic X days? Because I think when people

830
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: hear this, it's going to be October seventeenth and the

831
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: temperature drop ten degrees and it's you know, maybe all

832
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: the conditions are right, and they're like, man, Bobby said,

833
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: risk for's reward, I'm feeling good. So when does the

834
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: gun go off? Where You're like, Okay, this is not

835
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: a great spot. I'm probably gonna get three to four

836
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: cracks at this spot with this particular deer I'm hunting,

837
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Like when does when does that go off?

838
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 11: So that risk reward is ever so slightly going like

839
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 11: this as we get through October, because in my opinion,

840
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 11: there's three things that affect a deer to move in daylight.

841
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 11: The big deer we're after in October, and you know,

842
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 11: one of those is moon phase. I'm a big moon

843
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 11: phase guy, and like that week leading up to the

844
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 11: full moon, especially in October. So like on a year

845
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 11: that the full moon happens early and that that wadd's

846
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 11: already been blown. So it's like, Okay, I don't have

847
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 11: that in my bag of tricks forward, so maybe I

848
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 11: get a little more aggressive.

849
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: But if the full moon is on October twenty.

850
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 11: Ninth, and you have that window lining up with the other,

851
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 11: with the other, the second of the three, which is

852
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 11: date phase or mindset, all the same thing. It's the

853
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 11: mindset of the deer date phase mindset. The end of October,

854
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 11: his mindset is more rambunctious. He's more wound up now,

855
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 11: he's starting to sniff like so you if you can,

856
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 11: if it's later in the month, you can get more aggressive.

857
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 11: You know, if you get that full moon at the

858
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 11: end of the month and you have that to look

859
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 11: forward to, maybe you get less aggressive, not as quick

860
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 11: because you have such a powerful thing coming up. And

861
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 11: then obviously the third part of that so date phase,

862
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 11: mindset moon. The third part is the environmental. That's the

863
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 11: part you can't predict. That's what you're just talking about

864
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 11: with the magic X days. But it's just there is

865
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 11: no hard rights and wrongs. It's kind of a but

866
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 11: it's always is it worth it? Yet if your guts

867
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 11: like probably about if you're walking in the stand, you're like,

868
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 11: I shouldn't be doing this, which I still do this.

869
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 11: Sometimes you just got it.

870
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: It's just it's just not worth it.

871
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: Because October is a gift.

872
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 11: It's a glass house that you can you can change

873
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 11: his habits and and you have this nice it's the

874
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 11: longest period of time that you have in the season

875
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 11: to play the game doing what he's doing, and so

876
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 11: you can be very very precise and wait, you know,

877
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 11: you get in November and all that changes. But a

878
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 11: lot of times, like when I'm going into the season,

879
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 11: I'm always trying to be in front of the deer, right,

880
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 11: So like a lot of times when I'm going into

881
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 11: the season, I already know when that full moon is,

882
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 11: so I'm thinking about that and and I'm so I'm

883
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 11: kind of like, Okay, that's this is my week. And

884
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 11: as we start coming into that, now, every high pressure

885
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 11: front from day one through is going to be awesome. Unpressured,

886
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 11: the deer you're after should be on his feet somewhere

887
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 11: in daylight. I mean they don't. They don't generally, unpressure

888
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 11: just just lay through that. I mean it, they just

889
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 11: get rambunctious and they they have to go and tear

890
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 11: stuff up in marked territory. And so, you know, just

891
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 11: being ahead of the deer's mindset risk, risk, risk versus reward.

892
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: Trying to think like a deer. And uh, it changed.

893
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 5: Every year is a little different.

894
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 11: But if you get if you get the perfect front

895
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 11: in in that five day window leading up to the

896
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 11: full moon, it's the most magical day of the year.

897
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 11: I mean, I go to the stand like this. I mean,

898
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 11: you know, it's just it's it's it's just the most

899
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 11: powerful day of this season. It's a blue it's a

900
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 11: it's a morning that starts out gloomy. It even depends

901
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 11: on how that front hits, Like if the front hits

902
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 11: at night, it's not as if the if the morning

903
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 11: is gloomy and stagnant and in a little warmer and

904
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 11: then you feel that wind hit and it kind of.

905
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: Looks like this where the sky starts.

906
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 11: Breaking up and the air is drying and cooling, and

907
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 11: by prime time it's gin clear and it's dead calm,

908
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 11: and it's cold and crisp. It's fire like I'm going

909
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 11: I'm sitting there like this, you know, because it's it's

910
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 11: the best day of the season. And it only if

911
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 11: you can line that up in that week leading up

912
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 11: the full moon. It's the best day of the season,

913
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 11: you know, to get on a deer, to kill a

914
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 11: deer that you're on that you know what he's doing.

915
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: There, you have it.

916
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: That's what Bobby thinks on this burning question. And last,

917
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: but not least, we have Mark Kenyon on his perspective

918
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: of risk for reward. Consuming some of Mark's content over

919
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: the year. Seems like he's gotten more aggressive with his

920
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: game plan and here's what he has to say.

921
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay, this past spring, you're a shed hunting.

922
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: Maybe you ended up in the sanctuary on your farm

923
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: or the very very back part, and you're like, man,

924
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: this is awesome. There's all this great sign, all these

925
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: trails converge as a betting area.

926
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 3: Just right over this direction. The axis is really bad.

927
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: It's bad.

928
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna scared deer coming in, scared deer coming out.

929
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: How and should you hunt the best spot on the

930
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: farm with bad access?

931
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've had this, you know, I've come across myself

932
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 10: plenty of times too, and so I've wrestled with it

933
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 10: a lot, and what I have kind of settled on

934
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 10: is that, you know, the best best spot is a

935
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 10: place that has everything going for plus good access. So

936
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 10: this place is never going to be like a ten

937
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 10: out of ten. It's going to be like an eight

938
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 10: out of ten because it's great, but you can't get

939
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 10: it at all. That's that the reality of a lot

940
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 10: of these kinds of places that are like a core

941
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 10: habitat feature with all this movement coming into it, like naturally,

942
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 10: those places just always tend to be and hard to

943
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 10: get two spots. So this is a pretty common thing,

944
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 10: and I think that my view you is that they

945
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 10: are still worth hunting because they if it's that good,

946
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 10: if it's that much of a hub, there are moments

947
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 10: when the reward outweighs the risk. And that's like every

948
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 10: single time you look at a stand site or an

949
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 10: ambush location. There's always these two sides of the scale.

950
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 10: It's like, what's the potential for reward, what's the potential

951
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 10: for risk? Like what's going to be the I'm going

952
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 10: to burn some powder ons, I'm going to damage things

953
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 10: by going in. There's also the chance that this could happen.

954
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 10: And so I think when you find a location like that,

955
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 10: you really need to think long and hard about when

956
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 10: is the best of the best moment for this place,

957
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 10: Like why is this place great?

958
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: What makes it great?

959
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 10: And what's the type of year that makes it great,

960
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 10: And what's the set of conditions that will make this

961
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 10: like the best of the best time to hunt the

962
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 10: best of best place?

963
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: That's number one, and then number two.

964
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 10: I'm also thinking, Okay, I know I've got bad access,

965
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 10: but what set of circumstances or situation would give me

966
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 10: the least bad access on the stage. So maybe so

967
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 10: I'll give you an example. I have a place like

968
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 10: this that is like smack down in the middle of

969
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 10: like some of the best cover in one of the

970
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 10: farms I hunt, And it's a place that I've been

971
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 10: able to see because I've never I've infrequently gone into

972
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 10: the core of this but I can oftentimes see into

973
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 10: this brushy, nasty stuff, and so I can see like

974
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 10: year after a year after year.

975
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: Man, this is where they're always coming through.

976
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 10: Like there's always every time there's a good buckham after

977
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 10: he's always coming through in and out, in and out

978
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 10: of this. But like, no matter how you go about

979
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 10: trying to get in there or to sit in there,

980
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 10: deer gonna win you. There's so many deer there are

981
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 10: on all sides in you. Any way you try to

982
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 10: access it, you're going to have to go through bedding

983
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 10: cover or trying to get out. There's food on all

984
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 10: sides too, So there's no good way to get in it,

985
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 10: and there's no really good way to hunt it without

986
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 10: it being like you're on edge. But the least bad

987
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 10: would be if you had like a due east or

988
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 10: a do west wind. There's like a it's there's a

989
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 10: ditch and so there's a couple of trees. You could

990
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 10: hunt right on this ditch, and if you can run

991
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 10: your way right along that ditch, you would minimize your

992
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 10: wind issues. If you could walk in that ditch in

993
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 10: the morning and right alongside of it super early, you

994
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 10: can minimize the access issues.

995
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: But you're definitely gonna blow some stuff up.

996
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 10: So you're saying, Okay, I'm gonna I know I'm gonna

997
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 10: cast some damage here, but I'm gonna pick the days

998
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 10: when I've got the best chance of getting away with

999
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 10: a little bit of it. And then also I'm choosing

1000
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 10: that day when, like everything else is perfect. So for

1001
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 10: this location, it's like this spot the best, the best

1002
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 10: of the best day would be during peak of road activity,

1003
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 10: when there is a great cold front that comes through

1004
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 10: and that's like a wet or windy day, So I

1005
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 10: could slip in there and at least not make a

1006
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 10: ton of noise. If I could get that set of

1007
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 10: conditions with that correct wind, it would be worth the

1008
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 10: risk on that day. But there's like two days maybe

1009
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 10: if I one or two days and that's it. Yeah,

1010
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 10: And if I go in there, I take my swing

1011
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 10: like I'm swinging for the fences, and if it doesn't

1012
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 10: work out, well, I just I know I've burned this

1013
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 10: place out a bit, and so I know, hey, yeah,

1014
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 10: it's going to be a week or two or something

1015
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 10: before that area is really going to be hot again.

1016
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 10: But it could be worthwhile. So I think that at

1017
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 10: least in the places that I hunt. I don't hunt

1018
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 10: big farms. I don't own big farms. I don't hunt

1019
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 10: Niola or Illinois or Ohio like most of the time.

1020
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 10: So when I think about this question, I'm thinking about

1021
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 10: this like at home in Michigan, Michigan, and if you

1022
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 10: want to kill a mature buck, oftentimes it has to

1023
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 10: be in a place like that because those mature bucks

1024
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 10: so rarely come out on the edges, so rarely spent

1025
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 10: time in the open.

1026
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: We'really easy to.

1027
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 10: Access places, and I think, to be clear, like this

1028
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 10: is like my answer is the way it is because

1029
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 10: I'm primarily hunting in like high pressure areas, relatively small farms.

1030
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Michigan when I answer this question right.

1031
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 10: It might be different if I've got hundreds and hundreds

1032
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 10: of acres in Iowa or Illinois or.

1033
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: Nebraska or wherever. But you know where I'm at in Michigan.

1034
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: It's all small.

1035
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 10: You know, it's forties and sixties and twenties, and there's

1036
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 10: sixty other guys in my square mile, and you're just

1037
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 10: not going to get a mature buck moving out in

1038
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 10: the easy stuff and the open stuff on the edges.

1039
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 10: Ninety nine percent of the time. So if ever you

1040
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 10: want to get a chance that one to five year

1041
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 10: old that's in your square mile, probably have to go

1042
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 10: into these like core places.

1043
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: And so I'm willing to take a.

1044
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 10: Big swing at those core places a few times when

1045
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 10: the time's right, because if I don't, I'll probably never

1046
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 10: get a chance of that too. And so you have

1047
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 10: to take calculated risks. It's just about being smart when.

1048
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: You do so.

1049
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Throughout the last ten years, when you've you've done that strategy,

1050
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: how many times does it typically work? And then does

1051
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: it feel are you nervous going into that or it's like, hey,

1052
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: this is whatever happens happens. Yeah, and I know I'm

1053
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: having some risk, but man, I'm putting myself in what

1054
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: I feel the best spot.

1055
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say still most of the time it

1056
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 10: doesn't work. But you know, you know, I can think

1057
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 10: of the last handful of the years, a couple of

1058
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 10: times it's worked. Yeah, that's the specific place I'm talking about,

1059
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 10: this exact location. I took one of these big swings

1060
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 10: and my target buck walked by it ten yards, but

1061
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 10: it was like ten yard ten minutes before shooting it,

1062
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 10: so I could see him. But I couldn't shoot him,

1063
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 10: and I was like, oh it worked, Yeah, came ten

1064
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 10: minutes too early. So it's always calculated risk. Sometimes it's worthwhile.

1065
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 10: But I will say, like I am still always nervous

1066
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 10: in those moments. You just walk around eggshells. You're like, ah,

1067
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 10: this is this could be a disaster. But I think

1068
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 10: I've gotten to the point where I go into it

1069
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 10: knowing that and I kind of have a certain like

1070
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 10: resignation to Okay, this is gonna be like super fun

1071
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 10: or might blow up, and I just need to be

1072
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 10: okay with that today and then like give it up

1073
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 10: and like be.

1074
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: Okay with whatever happens. Whatever happens happens.

1075
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 10: And if you go into it with that attitude, I

1076
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 10: think it's it's okay. And I will tell you, the

1077
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 10: more you do this and the more you kind of

1078
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 10: come to to see the results, the more I've become

1079
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 10: comfortable with that, because you know, while deer survival machines

1080
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 10: they're also not genius, you can sometimes get away with

1081
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Speaker 10: more than you think, and so being willing to take

1082
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 10: those swings and be aggressive with the right times is

1083
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Speaker 10: worth the occasional total disaster because you can recover sometimes

1084
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Speaker 10: faster than you might think too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was probably the widest variety of answers on

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00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: this question throughout this series, and I think if someone

1087
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: listening to this, they need to figure out who's hunting

1088
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: style resonates the most with me. I think all the

1089
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Speaker 2: answers were right in their own hunting style setups. You know,

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Speaker 2: the list goes on, but I think if you're listening

1091
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: to this, man, I feel a little confused after listening

1092
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: to this episode, think of each guest and what models

1093
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: how you hunt and and your goals and everything else,

1094
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: because a lot of the guys they're hunting one specific

1095
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: buck that is it, and so their answers were quite

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: a bit different. The other thing that people really need

1097
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: to listen is when they said they would go into

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00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: this area, and that's probably one of the most important

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00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: things when it comes with the variety of answers for

1100
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Speaker 2: this episode. But at the end of the day, everyone

1101
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: has a spot like this in the back of their mind,

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Speaker 2: and that's why I asked this question. And usually to

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: your point, it is in relation to some sort of

1104
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: terrain to where maybe you can figure out a way

1105
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: to stack the deck just a little bit in your

1106
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: favor by utilizing the train to have your scent go

1107
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: in a certain direction or maybe from an access standpoint,

1108
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: but definitely it can't be your favorite spot that you

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Speaker 2: have twenty times a year. That was very very clear

1110
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Speaker 2: throughout this episode. So I hope everyone really enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: Next week, we have another burning question that's probably crossed

1112
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Speaker 2: our minds at some point, and it's what's keeping Maybe

1113
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Speaker 2: you're having a good year, a good year, good year,

1114
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Speaker 2: and you just want to be great, You want to

1115
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: get to the next level, and you want to learn

1116
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: how are these guys finding more and more success seemingly

1117
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: year after year, And so we're going to figure out

1118
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: if there's any trends or anything that you can address

1119
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Speaker 2: this upcoming season.

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Speaker 3: All right, there, you guys have it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Back forty

1122
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: dive into all the questions we've all had at some point,

1123
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Speaker 2: and I hope that you have a little better game

1124
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: plan on the spot that came to mind when we

1125
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: started this episode of that really great spot with bad access,

1126
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: and maybe you're equipped to make a better game plan

1127
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: after hearing from eight different folks, you can find one

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00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: that is relatable to you and your strategy, what you

1129
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: have access to, and hopefully you have a little bit

1130
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Speaker 2: better opportunity in that spot if you decide to hunt it.

1131
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: Next week we have the next burning question and it

1132
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: is what is the biggest mistake hunters make from being

1133
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: good to great? So you can start brainstorming now and

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Speaker 2: we'll see you next week on back forwarding.