1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,988 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio, going Hey, everybody, welcome, It's a Good 3 00:00:27,028 --> 00:00:29,828 Speaker 1: Morning Football. Another week, another fabulous cast. Kyle Brant with me, 4 00:00:30,228 --> 00:00:34,028 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones, Drew here as well, and Tom Pelliser, the 5 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:37,668 Speaker 1: perfect guy to break down a blockbuster trade over the weekend. 6 00:00:37,708 --> 00:00:40,708 Speaker 1: It happened late on Friday, probably buy design. We'll dig 7 00:00:40,708 --> 00:00:42,988 Speaker 1: into it right now, right here. So much to get 8 00:00:43,028 --> 00:00:45,628 Speaker 1: to Juju is say, Kansas City Chief and so on 9 00:00:45,748 --> 00:00:47,748 Speaker 1: that we go to all the latest news. We'll go 10 00:00:47,788 --> 00:00:50,148 Speaker 1: Baker versus Jimmy and compare those two. I'm sure the 11 00:00:50,228 --> 00:00:52,908 Speaker 1: Colts are very intrigued and watching fans from all thirty 12 00:00:52,908 --> 00:00:55,188 Speaker 1: two are hanging on to a thread to listen to 13 00:00:55,308 --> 00:00:57,388 Speaker 1: what we have to say about Deshaun Watson. So let's 14 00:00:57,388 --> 00:00:58,708 Speaker 1: do that. It's time for the lead block and we 15 00:00:58,788 --> 00:01:02,908 Speaker 1: bring in Tom Pelliss. Everything we want the unload, Tom. 16 00:01:02,948 --> 00:01:05,828 Speaker 1: I want every last detail on how it happened, why 17 00:01:05,828 --> 00:01:08,388 Speaker 1: it happened, and what you know. So on Thursday morning, 18 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:10,868 Speaker 1: Kae Deshaun Watson in fom of the Browns that they 19 00:01:10,908 --> 00:01:13,988 Speaker 1: were out that he was not going to become into Cleveland. 20 00:01:14,028 --> 00:01:17,228 Speaker 1: But by Thursday night, I was told the Browns had 21 00:01:17,268 --> 00:01:20,268 Speaker 1: already re engaged, and in fact, when Deshaun Watson went 22 00:01:20,308 --> 00:01:22,108 Speaker 1: to bed on Thursday night, I was told there was 23 00:01:22,148 --> 00:01:24,628 Speaker 1: maybe a ten percent chance that he was going to 24 00:01:24,668 --> 00:01:27,708 Speaker 1: go to the Browns. Well, by Friday morning, Watson had 25 00:01:27,748 --> 00:01:30,228 Speaker 1: thought about a lot of different things. The talent on 26 00:01:30,268 --> 00:01:33,268 Speaker 1: the Browns roster, the youth of the Browns roster, a 27 00:01:33,308 --> 00:01:35,948 Speaker 1: general manager and Andrew Berry who had been very aggressive 28 00:01:35,948 --> 00:01:37,868 Speaker 1: in trying to get him to Cleveland, and an owner 29 00:01:37,908 --> 00:01:40,348 Speaker 1: in Jimmy Haslin, who really impressed to Shaun Watson with 30 00:01:40,388 --> 00:01:43,748 Speaker 1: how he knew every aspect of the football operation. The 31 00:01:43,788 --> 00:01:46,148 Speaker 1: Browns also stepped up in a way other teams were 32 00:01:46,188 --> 00:01:48,788 Speaker 1: not willing to, with a five year, two hundred thirty 33 00:01:48,828 --> 00:01:54,668 Speaker 1: million dollar contract fully guaranteed, unprecedented in NFL history at 34 00:01:54,708 --> 00:01:57,148 Speaker 1: a time. But let's remember a grand jury in Texas 35 00:01:57,188 --> 00:01:59,588 Speaker 1: a week and a half ago decided not to criminally 36 00:01:59,668 --> 00:02:02,908 Speaker 1: charge Watson in light of serious allegations of sexual misconduct, 37 00:02:02,908 --> 00:02:05,908 Speaker 1: but continues to face allegations in twenty two civil lawsuits, 38 00:02:05,948 --> 00:02:08,468 Speaker 1: as well as an NFL investigation that eventually could lead 39 00:02:08,468 --> 00:02:11,148 Speaker 1: to a suspension. None of that stopped the Cleveland Browns 40 00:02:11,148 --> 00:02:15,708 Speaker 1: from continuing to pursue Deshaun Watson. They acknowledged instatements over 41 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:18,148 Speaker 1: the weekend that they had done a thorough investigation, that 42 00:02:18,228 --> 00:02:20,548 Speaker 1: these are sensitive issues to a lot of people, but 43 00:02:20,588 --> 00:02:22,908 Speaker 1: they feel Watson is ready to do the right things 44 00:02:22,948 --> 00:02:25,948 Speaker 1: in the community and as their franchise quarterback. Kay appreciate 45 00:02:25,988 --> 00:02:27,908 Speaker 1: the updates. Tom plus say, we're gonna talk about our 46 00:02:27,908 --> 00:02:30,228 Speaker 1: reactions to this, and We've been tracking this story as 47 00:02:30,308 --> 00:02:32,588 Speaker 1: Kyle's every day for so long here on the show, 48 00:02:32,588 --> 00:02:35,308 Speaker 1: and I've sort of haven't delved into the human element, 49 00:02:35,388 --> 00:02:37,868 Speaker 1: the allegations that part of it. It's facts gathering, it's 50 00:02:37,868 --> 00:02:39,428 Speaker 1: see where he's going. I was the one to say 51 00:02:39,588 --> 00:02:42,148 Speaker 1: the past two weeks the Browns are the perfect landing spot. 52 00:02:42,148 --> 00:02:44,388 Speaker 1: I see him as somebody who needs the best supporting 53 00:02:44,388 --> 00:02:46,388 Speaker 1: cast around him to succeed, and now he has that 54 00:02:46,468 --> 00:02:48,468 Speaker 1: and he's going to be in Cleveland. The fact of 55 00:02:48,468 --> 00:02:50,268 Speaker 1: the matter was he was going to play, he was 56 00:02:50,348 --> 00:02:53,628 Speaker 1: going to get traded, and it's less about that for me. 57 00:02:54,428 --> 00:02:57,388 Speaker 1: You start losing me a little bit with the number, 58 00:02:57,668 --> 00:03:00,988 Speaker 1: with the perceived reward of that number, with all the 59 00:03:01,068 --> 00:03:05,748 Speaker 1: guaranteed money, the reworking of his contract so that something 60 00:03:05,788 --> 00:03:08,628 Speaker 1: does happen and he is suspended or there is something 61 00:03:08,668 --> 00:03:12,068 Speaker 1: to come with that, he sacrifices the very minimum if 62 00:03:12,068 --> 00:03:14,748 Speaker 1: that suspension occurs. I think it makes it really tough. 63 00:03:14,788 --> 00:03:16,868 Speaker 1: I think it makes it really hard to defend. So 64 00:03:16,948 --> 00:03:19,828 Speaker 1: for me, my reaction on Friday was the gratuity of it, 65 00:03:19,868 --> 00:03:22,428 Speaker 1: the perceived reward, the victory lap by the agent who 66 00:03:22,508 --> 00:03:24,348 Speaker 1: was doing his job and got the best possible deal, 67 00:03:24,388 --> 00:03:26,668 Speaker 1: and then some the Friday dump of it, all the 68 00:03:26,708 --> 00:03:29,588 Speaker 1: Trevor Bauer tweets. After that, it just kept going and 69 00:03:29,628 --> 00:03:30,988 Speaker 1: got so hard that I was like, I gotta turn 70 00:03:31,028 --> 00:03:32,348 Speaker 1: my phone off. I don't like where any of this 71 00:03:32,428 --> 00:03:36,028 Speaker 1: is going. The number is so tough, the structure of 72 00:03:35,468 --> 00:03:39,188 Speaker 1: the contract is really tough. And then the statements yesterday 73 00:03:39,228 --> 00:03:42,068 Speaker 1: from the ownership and the coach alike. In all of it, 74 00:03:42,108 --> 00:03:45,628 Speaker 1: with the quote extensive evaluation process, where I'm hearing reports 75 00:03:45,628 --> 00:03:47,108 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're true or not, that these 76 00:03:47,108 --> 00:03:50,308 Speaker 1: twenty two women can have accused him of sexual assault. 77 00:03:50,388 --> 00:03:54,508 Speaker 1: We're not talked to the lawyer that's defending them, was 78 00:03:54,548 --> 00:03:56,988 Speaker 1: not talked to or reached out to by any NFL team. 79 00:03:57,028 --> 00:03:58,708 Speaker 1: All of it makes it tough, and I don't know 80 00:03:58,748 --> 00:04:00,468 Speaker 1: what he did or did not do. I don't know 81 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:02,708 Speaker 1: that we will ever know, but I don't like when 82 00:04:02,708 --> 00:04:06,708 Speaker 1: teams make themselves tough to root for. Obviously, winning matters 83 00:04:06,748 --> 00:04:08,908 Speaker 1: more than sort of anything else. But there are lots 84 00:04:08,908 --> 00:04:10,468 Speaker 1: of fans and I'll throw it back to Tim because 85 00:04:10,468 --> 00:04:11,828 Speaker 1: we're going to get to the football aspect of this. 86 00:04:11,908 --> 00:04:15,028 Speaker 1: I've never seen so many fans so vocal about I'm 87 00:04:15,068 --> 00:04:16,668 Speaker 1: over this. I want to find a new team. I 88 00:04:16,708 --> 00:04:18,308 Speaker 1: wanted this, I wanted that, And I just think I 89 00:04:18,348 --> 00:04:19,908 Speaker 1: want to say that it's okay to feel that way. 90 00:04:19,948 --> 00:04:22,308 Speaker 1: It's okay to question you know what you do or 91 00:04:22,428 --> 00:04:23,788 Speaker 1: you don't know. We're obviously going to see what the 92 00:04:23,868 --> 00:04:27,108 Speaker 1: NFL does. There's concern about the message that it's sending. 93 00:04:27,188 --> 00:04:30,068 Speaker 1: There are twenty two women involved, there is sexual assault 94 00:04:30,068 --> 00:04:33,268 Speaker 1: allegations involved, and it's okay to question and feel that way. 95 00:04:33,268 --> 00:04:35,708 Speaker 1: And I just I wanted to sort of say where 96 00:04:35,748 --> 00:04:38,788 Speaker 1: they lost me in this. Right now, they're probably going 97 00:04:38,828 --> 00:04:41,668 Speaker 1: to be really good. Everything I said probably won't matter 98 00:04:41,748 --> 00:04:44,708 Speaker 1: in two years when they're huge contenders in the AFC. Tom, So, 99 00:04:44,748 --> 00:04:46,508 Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you heard all of this 100 00:04:46,548 --> 00:04:48,548 Speaker 1: come down? On Friday. Okay, I think it is important 101 00:04:48,588 --> 00:04:51,628 Speaker 1: that we don't entirely separate the two aspects of this. 102 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:54,988 Speaker 1: You're talking about the legal situation that again remains active 103 00:04:55,028 --> 00:04:57,228 Speaker 1: even though he was not criminally charged, because you have 104 00:04:57,308 --> 00:05:01,028 Speaker 1: those civil cases, you have the NFL investigation. That was 105 00:05:01,148 --> 00:05:04,068 Speaker 1: one reason that even though there were four teams at 106 00:05:04,068 --> 00:05:06,468 Speaker 1: the end that had made strong offers own this same range, 107 00:05:06,508 --> 00:05:09,028 Speaker 1: three first round picks and Warford Deshaun Watson, but some 108 00:05:09,108 --> 00:05:11,548 Speaker 1: of the other teams involved were not willing to go 109 00:05:11,748 --> 00:05:14,508 Speaker 1: where the Browns did on the contract. The other reason 110 00:05:14,588 --> 00:05:16,628 Speaker 1: that the other teams were not willing to go there 111 00:05:16,628 --> 00:05:20,268 Speaker 1: on the contract is because no one, under any circumstances 112 00:05:20,388 --> 00:05:23,628 Speaker 1: has ever done a contract like this. I got a 113 00:05:23,748 --> 00:05:27,228 Speaker 1: number of techs and phone calls from general managers, executives 114 00:05:27,228 --> 00:05:30,348 Speaker 1: with other teams who are furious or not happy with 115 00:05:30,388 --> 00:05:33,268 Speaker 1: the Browns about their willingness to do a contract like this. 116 00:05:33,308 --> 00:05:36,308 Speaker 1: One veteran negotiator told me they just changed the entire 117 00:05:36,508 --> 00:05:39,548 Speaker 1: landscape of economics in the NFL. Let's bring up the 118 00:05:39,948 --> 00:05:44,428 Speaker 1: highest guaranteed money ever on contracts for NFL players. It 119 00:05:44,548 --> 00:05:46,748 Speaker 1: is a list that includes several deals that have been 120 00:05:46,748 --> 00:05:49,188 Speaker 1: done recently, including Aaron Rodgers just got one hundred fifty 121 00:05:49,188 --> 00:05:51,588 Speaker 1: point six million, though I think about one hundred million 122 00:05:51,588 --> 00:05:54,588 Speaker 1: of that was fully guaranteed. Matthew Stafford one thirty five, 123 00:05:54,588 --> 00:05:57,108 Speaker 1: and that deal done yesterday. They we'll talk more about again, 124 00:05:57,588 --> 00:06:02,548 Speaker 1: not entirely fully guaranteed with Watson two thirty fully guaranteed. 125 00:06:03,148 --> 00:06:06,188 Speaker 1: This has never happened before, and it complicates a lot 126 00:06:06,228 --> 00:06:09,108 Speaker 1: of different things. For one thing, because the NFL's funding rule, 127 00:06:09,148 --> 00:06:11,668 Speaker 1: not only will Deshaun Watson be paid forty six million 128 00:06:11,708 --> 00:06:14,948 Speaker 1: dollars this year, assuming no suspension, which would mitigate that 129 00:06:14,988 --> 00:06:17,188 Speaker 1: to a slight degree, Jimmy Hanslin will have to write 130 00:06:17,188 --> 00:06:19,388 Speaker 1: a one hundred and eighty four million dollar check and 131 00:06:19,428 --> 00:06:22,548 Speaker 1: put it in escrow by next March. Because of the 132 00:06:22,628 --> 00:06:25,388 Speaker 1: funding rule that the NFL has, teams have always been 133 00:06:25,388 --> 00:06:27,548 Speaker 1: reluctant to do that. And what that means is for 134 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:29,668 Speaker 1: all the other massive deals now that are going to 135 00:06:29,668 --> 00:06:32,628 Speaker 1: get done, particularly for quarterbacks, everybody else is going to 136 00:06:32,668 --> 00:06:35,508 Speaker 1: ask for this. A couple guys in the division, Joe Burrow, 137 00:06:35,868 --> 00:06:39,748 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, why would you take significantly less in terms 138 00:06:39,748 --> 00:06:43,268 Speaker 1: of the fully guaranteed money. It's just such a different 139 00:06:43,268 --> 00:06:45,828 Speaker 1: situation in terms of the draft pick, compensation, and in 140 00:06:45,948 --> 00:06:48,748 Speaker 1: terms of the contract. It definitely stopped a lot of 141 00:06:48,868 --> 00:06:50,908 Speaker 1: NFL people in their tracks. And we'll see what the 142 00:06:51,148 --> 00:06:53,748 Speaker 1: implications are as we move forward here, guys, I was 143 00:06:53,748 --> 00:06:55,988 Speaker 1: shocked first and foremos Cat, I thought what you said 144 00:06:56,068 --> 00:06:58,668 Speaker 1: was amazing. It was right on par with it on 145 00:06:58,708 --> 00:07:00,308 Speaker 1: how a lot of people feel about a lot of 146 00:07:00,308 --> 00:07:02,428 Speaker 1: fans that I've talked to feel the same way. From 147 00:07:02,468 --> 00:07:04,668 Speaker 1: the football side of it, though, I think we have 148 00:07:04,708 --> 00:07:07,988 Speaker 1: to remember we've never seen a quarterback at this age 149 00:07:07,988 --> 00:07:10,228 Speaker 1: and this caliber hit the free agent market, and so 150 00:07:10,428 --> 00:07:12,068 Speaker 1: for the Browns to be able to come back in 151 00:07:12,268 --> 00:07:14,228 Speaker 1: after being out, you had to put this kind of 152 00:07:14,228 --> 00:07:16,908 Speaker 1: contract on the table in order to get Deshaun Watson. 153 00:07:16,948 --> 00:07:18,828 Speaker 1: Winning comes out of price, and we know that now. 154 00:07:18,948 --> 00:07:20,468 Speaker 1: If you're look at what the Buccaneers have done over 155 00:07:20,508 --> 00:07:21,908 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, if you look at the 156 00:07:21,988 --> 00:07:24,108 Speaker 1: Rams have done. Teams are now spending and we'll talk 157 00:07:24,148 --> 00:07:25,668 Speaker 1: about it layer in the show, but look at what 158 00:07:25,668 --> 00:07:28,308 Speaker 1: the AFC West is doing. Everyone is trying to find 159 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:30,348 Speaker 1: a way to compete to win a championship, and in 160 00:07:30,428 --> 00:07:31,908 Speaker 1: order to win one, you have to spend a lot 161 00:07:31,948 --> 00:07:34,468 Speaker 1: of money. You have to have a guy. Our colleague 162 00:07:34,468 --> 00:07:37,548 Speaker 1: at NFL Network talked about this on Twitter, saying, if 163 00:07:37,588 --> 00:07:40,348 Speaker 1: you watch that Chiefs Buffalo with Bill's game, you know 164 00:07:40,428 --> 00:07:42,388 Speaker 1: you had to have a guy at that quarterback position. 165 00:07:42,788 --> 00:07:45,268 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns wanted that guy, and they went out 166 00:07:45,268 --> 00:07:46,388 Speaker 1: and they did what they had to do to get 167 00:07:46,468 --> 00:07:48,508 Speaker 1: them and so kay you said it. With all this 168 00:07:48,668 --> 00:07:51,508 Speaker 1: going on, winning is what matters in the National Football League, 169 00:07:51,508 --> 00:07:53,148 Speaker 1: and a lot of guys, a lot of teams are 170 00:07:53,148 --> 00:07:54,628 Speaker 1: trying to find a way to make it happen. I'll 171 00:07:54,628 --> 00:07:58,468 Speaker 1: tell you, well, guys, Deshaun Watson better be all world, 172 00:07:59,068 --> 00:08:02,868 Speaker 1: not good, not great, all world for the price that 173 00:08:02,948 --> 00:08:05,828 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns are paying price in every single sense 174 00:08:05,868 --> 00:08:10,468 Speaker 1: of the word monetary, reputation, integrity. You know, it's going 175 00:08:10,548 --> 00:08:13,108 Speaker 1: to be an interesting study watching these Browns fans over 176 00:08:13,148 --> 00:08:15,628 Speaker 1: the next six months, maybe over the next couple of years, 177 00:08:15,748 --> 00:08:19,948 Speaker 1: because we have seen many players accused of doing things, 178 00:08:20,028 --> 00:08:23,788 Speaker 1: convicted of doing things, who turn things around and come 179 00:08:23,868 --> 00:08:28,068 Speaker 1: back and win and win championships. And I've seen I'm 180 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:31,108 Speaker 1: not watching this team anymore tweets. I've seen the jerseys 181 00:08:31,148 --> 00:08:33,948 Speaker 1: being burned, and I've seen one eighties I'll be very 182 00:08:33,988 --> 00:08:36,628 Speaker 1: fascinated to watch this as it goes by, because there's 183 00:08:36,708 --> 00:08:40,028 Speaker 1: so much on it that makes it distasteful. It's not 184 00:08:40,108 --> 00:08:42,548 Speaker 1: just the facts that you already know. I mean, the 185 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:46,028 Speaker 1: fact that he got more guaranteed money than Aaron Rodgers 186 00:08:46,028 --> 00:08:49,708 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes is bizarre. The fact that his contract 187 00:08:49,868 --> 00:08:55,148 Speaker 1: is specifically designed to sidestep the ramifications of his discipline 188 00:08:55,148 --> 00:08:58,948 Speaker 1: when it comes is tacky at best and tasteless at worst. 189 00:08:59,508 --> 00:09:02,148 Speaker 1: And the statement from the Browns, I mean, I've never 190 00:09:02,188 --> 00:09:05,708 Speaker 1: heard so much blah blah blah blah blah PRBs to 191 00:09:05,828 --> 00:09:07,108 Speaker 1: cover up a bunch of things. This is what it 192 00:09:07,108 --> 00:09:09,148 Speaker 1: should have said, just simple. If you want to be 193 00:09:09,188 --> 00:09:12,508 Speaker 1: honest with your fans, say, dear fans, we want to win. 194 00:09:12,908 --> 00:09:16,188 Speaker 1: Love the Browns. That's the statements, because that's what you're 195 00:09:16,228 --> 00:09:18,988 Speaker 1: doing here. You want to win. You saw Josh Allen 196 00:09:19,028 --> 00:09:21,028 Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. You're sick of it, you aren't in 197 00:09:21,068 --> 00:09:24,788 Speaker 1: the baker business anymore, and you said, trade everything, pay everything, 198 00:09:24,948 --> 00:09:28,548 Speaker 1: and most importantly, to hell with everything. Bring him in 199 00:09:28,588 --> 00:09:30,348 Speaker 1: here and we'll see if we can make this work. 200 00:09:30,508 --> 00:09:34,068 Speaker 1: We want to win. That's the bottom line, at all costs. 201 00:09:34,308 --> 00:09:36,548 Speaker 1: And they better. It is a slap in the face 202 00:09:36,708 --> 00:09:39,868 Speaker 1: number all around with how I feel at GMFE with 203 00:09:39,988 --> 00:09:42,308 Speaker 1: your thoughts. Excellent points by all, and I agree with 204 00:09:42,508 --> 00:09:44,228 Speaker 1: each and every one of you. I want to know 205 00:09:44,268 --> 00:09:45,748 Speaker 1: how you guys out there field. Let us know at 206 00:09:45,788 --> 00:09:49,308 Speaker 1: GM if welcome back to the Morning Football on a Monday. 207 00:09:49,468 --> 00:09:51,588 Speaker 1: And the best wide receiver in the world is silver 208 00:09:51,628 --> 00:09:54,428 Speaker 1: and Black and Las Vegas reunited with Derek Carr's college teammate, 209 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:57,148 Speaker 1: which is exciting and incredible for the Raiders fans. But 210 00:09:57,228 --> 00:09:59,148 Speaker 1: where does this leave the Packers If we have a 211 00:09:59,188 --> 00:10:02,668 Speaker 1: four time MVP who got his cupboard Ilford and needs 212 00:10:02,668 --> 00:10:05,388 Speaker 1: wide receivers to throw to. So there's some tasty names there. 213 00:10:05,668 --> 00:10:07,828 Speaker 1: A couple of LSU guys at the top, Will Fuller, 214 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:11,868 Speaker 1: the speedster Julio Jones, and then Roger's teammate for years, 215 00:10:12,108 --> 00:10:14,708 Speaker 1: Ms Tom Pella. SERI will start with you when here 216 00:10:14,708 --> 00:10:16,908 Speaker 1: everybody's thoughts. We know they're not going to go to 217 00:10:16,908 --> 00:10:18,428 Speaker 1: battle next year with the wide receivers they have from 218 00:10:18,428 --> 00:10:20,188 Speaker 1: the roster now, they're also really well set up in 219 00:10:20,188 --> 00:10:21,748 Speaker 1: the draft. Tom, how would you like to see the 220 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:25,188 Speaker 1: Packers handle their wide receivers going into the season. Well, 221 00:10:25,228 --> 00:10:27,668 Speaker 1: one of the names on that list, Marquez Volda Scanling 222 00:10:27,708 --> 00:10:31,308 Speaker 1: is somebody the Packers would ideally like to still get back. 223 00:10:31,348 --> 00:10:34,628 Speaker 1: He's got that chemistry with Aaron Rodgers, who never has 224 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:37,188 Speaker 1: really had a lot of production with rookie wide receivers. 225 00:10:37,188 --> 00:10:38,908 Speaker 1: In other words, even though they are well positioned in 226 00:10:38,948 --> 00:10:41,348 Speaker 1: the draft, it seems unlikely you're just gonna say, hey, 227 00:10:41,348 --> 00:10:43,708 Speaker 1: we're going to draft a couple and move forward. I 228 00:10:43,748 --> 00:10:47,188 Speaker 1: would anticipate the Packers will add one, if not two veterans, 229 00:10:47,228 --> 00:10:50,508 Speaker 1: potentially including MVS. I can tell you they've been active 230 00:10:50,588 --> 00:10:53,748 Speaker 1: in terms of exploring potential trades. They've been active in 231 00:10:53,788 --> 00:10:57,348 Speaker 1: terms of exploring potential free agents. I agree with you, 232 00:10:57,588 --> 00:10:59,868 Speaker 1: they have to do something, and I anticipate something that's 233 00:10:59,908 --> 00:11:02,188 Speaker 1: going to happen here in the near future. Game Kyle, 234 00:11:02,228 --> 00:11:04,748 Speaker 1: they can't do something. They got to do everything. This 235 00:11:04,788 --> 00:11:06,068 Speaker 1: is that you know, we had two minutes in the 236 00:11:06,068 --> 00:11:08,428 Speaker 1: break there's that flexile commercial that's on. I was putting 237 00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:11,228 Speaker 1: my kitchen sink dishes into the dishwasher and I thought 238 00:11:11,268 --> 00:11:14,868 Speaker 1: to myself, kitchen sink, throw it at him. Absolutely whatever 239 00:11:14,948 --> 00:11:16,868 Speaker 1: you can get him. I don't to your point, Tom 240 00:11:16,868 --> 00:11:18,548 Speaker 1: at young players, Okay, and I do think they should 241 00:11:18,628 --> 00:11:21,268 Speaker 1: draft one. They better draft one two, but veterans, veterans 242 00:11:21,308 --> 00:11:22,868 Speaker 1: that can help him win now. And the veteran on 243 00:11:22,908 --> 00:11:25,628 Speaker 1: the list I like is Julio Jones, and he's thirty three, 244 00:11:25,628 --> 00:11:27,468 Speaker 1: and I know he dealt with injuries last year, but 245 00:11:27,508 --> 00:11:29,868 Speaker 1: he's the one guy of all these guys available that 246 00:11:29,908 --> 00:11:33,308 Speaker 1: we know can be a dominant number one receiver. He 247 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:35,508 Speaker 1: dealt with some things, but when he was finally healthy 248 00:11:35,548 --> 00:11:37,108 Speaker 1: at the end of the regular season and in that 249 00:11:37,148 --> 00:11:39,988 Speaker 1: playoff game, he looked the best he had all year, 250 00:11:40,148 --> 00:11:43,068 Speaker 1: and pairing with Rogers might revitalize him. He should not 251 00:11:43,108 --> 00:11:45,188 Speaker 1: be done yet at thirty three. And I also think 252 00:11:45,228 --> 00:11:47,628 Speaker 1: you go get Jarvis as a secondary weapon, and you 253 00:11:47,748 --> 00:11:49,348 Speaker 1: use one of those first round picks and a guy 254 00:11:49,388 --> 00:11:52,068 Speaker 1: as well, bring in as much talent MJD. Throw the 255 00:11:52,148 --> 00:11:55,108 Speaker 1: kitchen sink at Rogers. The time is now, you know, Okay, 256 00:11:55,388 --> 00:11:58,308 Speaker 1: this is how the league works. You complain, you complain, 257 00:11:58,428 --> 00:12:02,468 Speaker 1: you complain about getting the first round playmaker drafted offensively, 258 00:12:02,468 --> 00:12:04,068 Speaker 1: and they don't do it, and then now they're going 259 00:12:04,108 --> 00:12:06,028 Speaker 1: to d two of them. If we go back, since 260 00:12:06,108 --> 00:12:09,348 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, the Packers are drafted four offensive 261 00:12:09,348 --> 00:12:13,028 Speaker 1: skill position. That's including two quarterbacks, obviously in Aaron Rodgers 262 00:12:13,468 --> 00:12:15,548 Speaker 1: or two thousand. Excuse me, Bubba Franks, there it is. 263 00:12:15,588 --> 00:12:17,228 Speaker 1: I was in high school. I was a sophomore in 264 00:12:17,268 --> 00:12:19,628 Speaker 1: high school in two thousand. Just to age myself here 265 00:12:19,668 --> 00:12:21,788 Speaker 1: a little bit. But this is what I'm talking about. 266 00:12:22,508 --> 00:12:24,828 Speaker 1: They're gonna go out and draft two guys right now 267 00:12:24,908 --> 00:12:26,828 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, Aaron, here, we've got, we 268 00:12:26,948 --> 00:12:30,948 Speaker 1: drafted two guys. We've we've invested in the receiving room. 269 00:12:30,948 --> 00:12:32,828 Speaker 1: We need you to get them better. And I think 270 00:12:32,828 --> 00:12:35,508 Speaker 1: they can still win with two rookie receivers going in there. 271 00:12:35,508 --> 00:12:38,708 Speaker 1: You need young, explosive legs to win this NFC, to 272 00:12:38,788 --> 00:12:40,388 Speaker 1: even try to compete in the NFC. If you see 273 00:12:40,428 --> 00:12:42,468 Speaker 1: what's going on, I think the Packers are ready to 274 00:12:42,508 --> 00:12:44,988 Speaker 1: go if they draft the right two receivers. It's interesting, 275 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:47,748 Speaker 1: isn't it? Because Rogers has this well earned reputation for 276 00:12:47,908 --> 00:12:50,188 Speaker 1: being tough on young guys and tough on rookies. And 277 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:52,588 Speaker 1: we've seen the stairs as he walks off the field 278 00:12:52,588 --> 00:12:55,588 Speaker 1: after third down, but they've never gone and gotten him 279 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:58,868 Speaker 1: a Jamar Chase. I remember it. He was openly talking 280 00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:01,628 Speaker 1: about how much he liked Justin Jefferson in the draft 281 00:13:01,668 --> 00:13:03,908 Speaker 1: and the draft pick that eventually ended up being Jordan Love. 282 00:13:04,148 --> 00:13:06,188 Speaker 1: So I like to think there's nothing Rogers can't do 283 00:13:06,268 --> 00:13:09,308 Speaker 1: with the football, including having an incredible first year with 284 00:13:09,348 --> 00:13:11,828 Speaker 1: a rookie. And yet I still think he'd bounced their 285 00:13:11,908 --> 00:13:14,428 Speaker 1: way fortuitously, that the guys that are available this year 286 00:13:14,508 --> 00:13:17,308 Speaker 1: are really tasty. And I have to say I kind 287 00:13:17,308 --> 00:13:19,708 Speaker 1: of like the Odell thing because O'Dell's not going to 288 00:13:19,748 --> 00:13:21,908 Speaker 1: be ready for a while. O'Dell's gonna be ready at 289 00:13:21,908 --> 00:13:23,828 Speaker 1: the end of the season. I think Rogers loves him. 290 00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:25,148 Speaker 1: I think you get him cheap. I think you get 291 00:13:25,188 --> 00:13:27,548 Speaker 1: him short. And if Odell jumped on the Packers at 292 00:13:27,548 --> 00:13:29,308 Speaker 1: the end of the season, sort of like he rose 293 00:13:29,388 --> 00:13:31,068 Speaker 1: up for the Rams at the end of last season, 294 00:13:31,428 --> 00:13:34,068 Speaker 1: I don't hate that at all. So I still think 295 00:13:34,508 --> 00:13:36,668 Speaker 1: how short the window is for Rogers. I think he 296 00:13:36,708 --> 00:13:38,588 Speaker 1: got a couple of years from really two years. I 297 00:13:38,628 --> 00:13:40,188 Speaker 1: think you try to go for one of these veteran 298 00:13:40,228 --> 00:13:42,628 Speaker 1: guys and they gotta get something. We know. Adrian Amos 299 00:13:42,628 --> 00:13:44,988 Speaker 1: was saying, Hey Odell, hey Jarvis, come together. That would 300 00:13:45,068 --> 00:13:46,788 Speaker 1: be a beautiful thing, of course, But I want to 301 00:13:46,828 --> 00:13:48,908 Speaker 1: know Kyle do you think is Aaron Rodgers getting all 302 00:13:48,948 --> 00:13:51,588 Speaker 1: those phones and working them and saying, come play with me, 303 00:13:51,708 --> 00:13:54,188 Speaker 1: like Brady, is you better? He better? Tax you better? 304 00:13:54,388 --> 00:13:57,268 Speaker 1: Not just text? That's a FaceTime k make it personal. 305 00:13:57,348 --> 00:14:00,188 Speaker 1: Put that bearded, long haired face on a phone for 306 00:14:00,268 --> 00:14:02,988 Speaker 1: O'Dell and close. That's what I want to see on duma. 307 00:14:03,108 --> 00:14:04,948 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you, say a barber. I 308 00:14:04,988 --> 00:14:07,868 Speaker 1: want to see you on a FaceTime spotted with Starvis 309 00:14:07,948 --> 00:14:11,308 Speaker 1: Landry Rogers. If you've come more Next Jimmy g or 310 00:14:11,348 --> 00:14:30,548 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's ooh tough call. Welcome to a good morning football, 311 00:14:30,588 --> 00:14:32,748 Speaker 1: Big Deshaun Watson news. Of course we'll get our takes 312 00:14:32,748 --> 00:14:35,668 Speaker 1: on that. Kyle Brent and j D is here. Maurice Jones, Drew, 313 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:38,868 Speaker 1: Tom Pella, Sero all aboard and Atlanta didn't land their 314 00:14:39,108 --> 00:14:41,588 Speaker 1: quarterback to Shawn Watson. But are they still going to 315 00:14:41,668 --> 00:14:44,388 Speaker 1: deal Matt Ryan. Oh, let's get to a guy's time 316 00:14:44,428 --> 00:14:48,228 Speaker 1: to lead block. They're not lead block lee block. Okay, 317 00:14:48,268 --> 00:14:50,708 Speaker 1: here we go. So news this morning. So the Falcons 318 00:14:50,708 --> 00:14:53,228 Speaker 1: didn't get Watson. But what's going on here? This is 319 00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:56,468 Speaker 1: rap sheets tweet. The Falcons fielded trade calls the last 320 00:14:56,508 --> 00:14:59,708 Speaker 1: few days centered around quarterback Matt Ryan's sources say today 321 00:14:59,908 --> 00:15:02,228 Speaker 1: is a deadline to make a decision. Ryan will earn 322 00:15:02,508 --> 00:15:05,948 Speaker 1: a seven point five million dollars roster bonus from atl 323 00:15:05,988 --> 00:15:10,948 Speaker 1: if he's on the roster come four PN Tom Keela Sero, 324 00:15:11,308 --> 00:15:14,348 Speaker 1: what's going on, Well, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. 325 00:15:14,388 --> 00:15:17,068 Speaker 1: We talked about this several days ago. Once the Falcons 326 00:15:17,108 --> 00:15:20,588 Speaker 1: were in the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes, they started having preliminary 327 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:23,748 Speaker 1: trade calls involving Matt Ryan. That continued through the course 328 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:26,468 Speaker 1: of the weekend. Here Ryan's got two years and fifty 329 00:15:26,468 --> 00:15:29,508 Speaker 1: four million dollars or so remaining on his contract, no guarantees, 330 00:15:29,548 --> 00:15:32,708 Speaker 1: So there's probably a new contract reworking of some kind, 331 00:15:32,748 --> 00:15:35,308 Speaker 1: whether he stays in Atlanta or goes someplace else. He's 332 00:15:35,308 --> 00:15:37,548 Speaker 1: a former NFL MVP, He's play at a high level 333 00:15:37,628 --> 00:15:39,948 Speaker 1: for a long time, and so you would anticipate that 334 00:15:40,028 --> 00:15:42,828 Speaker 1: there's going to be teams interested. The Colts don't have 335 00:15:43,028 --> 00:15:46,108 Speaker 1: a solution right now for their starting quarterback. You've got 336 00:15:46,148 --> 00:15:48,828 Speaker 1: teams like the forty nine Ers. Kyle Shanahan is old 337 00:15:48,828 --> 00:15:52,228 Speaker 1: coach who there's a connection there. Ryan is from Philadelphia. 338 00:15:52,308 --> 00:15:54,948 Speaker 1: Could the Eagles potentially be involved. This is certainly one 339 00:15:54,988 --> 00:15:57,628 Speaker 1: to watch today, and as he and alluded to, any 340 00:15:57,668 --> 00:16:00,508 Speaker 1: decision on a trade involving Matt Ryan most likely would 341 00:16:00,508 --> 00:16:02,908 Speaker 1: take place today prior to that roster bonus being due 342 00:16:03,148 --> 00:16:05,388 Speaker 1: seven point five and alien there. Okay, you try to 343 00:16:05,428 --> 00:16:08,628 Speaker 1: rework it something you know seems inevitable to shake out today, 344 00:16:08,628 --> 00:16:10,228 Speaker 1: So keep it here on NFL network. And there's a 345 00:16:10,228 --> 00:16:12,508 Speaker 1: couple quarterbacks available. You mentioned the Colts, so they're thinking, 346 00:16:12,828 --> 00:16:15,548 Speaker 1: would we want Jimmy g Baker's of course on the table, 347 00:16:15,628 --> 00:16:18,108 Speaker 1: and now Matt Ryan a potential option here. I tried 348 00:16:18,148 --> 00:16:20,028 Speaker 1: to get ahead of this Baker Mayfield thing when all 349 00:16:20,028 --> 00:16:22,308 Speaker 1: this is going on before the trade was made last week. 350 00:16:22,348 --> 00:16:25,388 Speaker 1: What is the market for Baker Mayfield? He's putting off 351 00:16:25,388 --> 00:16:27,508 Speaker 1: this message like, are you sure it's better somewhere else? 352 00:16:27,588 --> 00:16:30,628 Speaker 1: Is the grass greener? Let's dig in, guys. Baker Mayfield's 353 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:33,748 Speaker 1: value is nebulous, Kyle, what do you make of it? 354 00:16:33,748 --> 00:16:36,428 Speaker 1: It's complicated, It's very complicated. This is what I want 355 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:38,468 Speaker 1: to put out there because right now Baker stock is low. 356 00:16:38,708 --> 00:16:41,708 Speaker 1: Never mind the Instagram post, never mind the football stock 357 00:16:41,788 --> 00:16:43,588 Speaker 1: is low. But I want to look at his most 358 00:16:43,628 --> 00:16:47,428 Speaker 1: important play from the twenty one season. This is the 359 00:16:47,508 --> 00:16:49,868 Speaker 1: play that I take away from his entire year. It's 360 00:16:49,908 --> 00:16:52,628 Speaker 1: all the way back. Week two. They're playing the Texans. 361 00:16:52,748 --> 00:16:55,708 Speaker 1: He's going to throw an interception and in like true 362 00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:59,868 Speaker 1: Baker Devil Maycare style, he launches himself at the guy, 363 00:17:00,148 --> 00:17:03,508 Speaker 1: makes the tackle and injures himself pretty severely. In his 364 00:17:03,588 --> 00:17:08,628 Speaker 1: non brunchions Week two, Week two of seventeen games, I 365 00:17:08,708 --> 00:17:11,228 Speaker 1: don't think Baker Mayfield was ever the same after this play. 366 00:17:11,468 --> 00:17:13,828 Speaker 1: I think all season long, it bothered him and it 367 00:17:13,988 --> 00:17:16,188 Speaker 1: hurt his football. That's fine, that's the game. It's not 368 00:17:16,188 --> 00:17:18,468 Speaker 1: an excuse. But I think he is a much better 369 00:17:18,548 --> 00:17:22,028 Speaker 1: quarterback on the field than he was last year. I think, 370 00:17:22,028 --> 00:17:23,668 Speaker 1: if I'm looking right now, if I'm a fan of 371 00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:25,788 Speaker 1: one of these teams, do I want Baker. I'm looking 372 00:17:25,788 --> 00:17:29,108 Speaker 1: at all these suitors and all these potential single quarterbacks 373 00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:31,868 Speaker 1: out there. I think he is significantly more talented than 374 00:17:31,948 --> 00:17:36,068 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. I think he's significantly more motivated than Matt Ryan, 375 00:17:36,148 --> 00:17:38,348 Speaker 1: just to their different points of their career. I think 376 00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:41,068 Speaker 1: there's a huge upside. You got to make sure that 377 00:17:41,308 --> 00:17:43,468 Speaker 1: I'm right and that last year's football wasn't great because 378 00:17:43,468 --> 00:17:45,348 Speaker 1: of the injury, and you got to make sure that 379 00:17:45,388 --> 00:17:47,188 Speaker 1: you want to bring in a guy who is sort 380 00:17:47,188 --> 00:17:50,228 Speaker 1: of a dollar store Brett Farr gun Slinger. I personally 381 00:17:50,268 --> 00:17:52,188 Speaker 1: think that if all the stuff with Baker in Cleveland 382 00:17:52,228 --> 00:17:54,668 Speaker 1: and transpired a little bit earlier, I think Baker would 383 00:17:54,668 --> 00:17:57,348 Speaker 1: be a Washington commander right now. I really do. The 384 00:17:57,428 --> 00:17:59,748 Speaker 1: question is will he become a Colt, would become a Saint. 385 00:17:59,948 --> 00:18:03,068 Speaker 1: I like him, I like the ride. I can't quit Baker. 386 00:18:03,228 --> 00:18:05,588 Speaker 1: I like the high end. I liked the talents, and 387 00:18:05,628 --> 00:18:07,868 Speaker 1: I genuinely think he is much better than what he 388 00:18:07,868 --> 00:18:09,788 Speaker 1: put on the field last year. And we all know 389 00:18:09,908 --> 00:18:12,868 Speaker 1: nobody burns like him, and nobody tracks the media's comments 390 00:18:12,868 --> 00:18:16,508 Speaker 1: like him, healthy shoulder, new team, everybody thinks you suck. 391 00:18:16,668 --> 00:18:18,588 Speaker 1: I like that Baker a lot, and I think the 392 00:18:18,588 --> 00:18:20,548 Speaker 1: market will show that that Tom. I know the finances 393 00:18:20,588 --> 00:18:22,868 Speaker 1: a little complicated, but I like the football as I 394 00:18:22,908 --> 00:18:24,828 Speaker 1: look forward to next year, Well, Kyle, I'll say this, 395 00:18:25,148 --> 00:18:28,148 Speaker 1: I think in our business of the NFL, timing is 396 00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:30,588 Speaker 1: everything right. If you have suitors, if you're as hot 397 00:18:30,628 --> 00:18:33,068 Speaker 1: as you you've said he is, people will be banging 398 00:18:33,108 --> 00:18:35,548 Speaker 1: down the door Cleveland to get him. Cleveland probably wouldn't 399 00:18:35,548 --> 00:18:38,028 Speaker 1: have been in that situation with Deshaun Watson. And so 400 00:18:38,068 --> 00:18:40,108 Speaker 1: I think what we've seen over the last couple of 401 00:18:40,188 --> 00:18:42,828 Speaker 1: years hasn't been the best Baker. People go back to 402 00:18:42,868 --> 00:18:46,028 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steeler's victory where they scored forty five points. 403 00:18:46,188 --> 00:18:47,908 Speaker 1: A lot of those points came off with short fields 404 00:18:47,908 --> 00:18:50,948 Speaker 1: because the turnovers, screens and running the football, and so 405 00:18:51,108 --> 00:18:52,828 Speaker 1: as much as a lot of people love Baker for 406 00:18:52,908 --> 00:18:55,548 Speaker 1: his attitude, I'm strictly a guy about production. And when 407 00:18:55,548 --> 00:18:57,908 Speaker 1: you watch his production, Odell Beckham didn't do well there. 408 00:18:58,308 --> 00:19:00,788 Speaker 1: He goes to the Rams play as well. So there's 409 00:19:00,868 --> 00:19:05,548 Speaker 1: certain situations about Baker Mayfield that I like that I dislike. 410 00:19:05,748 --> 00:19:08,388 Speaker 1: And so the part that I dislike is the letter 411 00:19:08,428 --> 00:19:10,628 Speaker 1: part of it. Right, Matt Ryan did write a letter 412 00:19:10,668 --> 00:19:13,828 Speaker 1: even though Atlanta was cooring Deshaun Watson, and some of 413 00:19:13,828 --> 00:19:15,468 Speaker 1: those things they just come into play. They just as 414 00:19:15,508 --> 00:19:17,708 Speaker 1: a player in that locker room. I just don't know 415 00:19:17,748 --> 00:19:20,188 Speaker 1: how that's gonna build if we don't play well. Is 416 00:19:20,228 --> 00:19:22,428 Speaker 1: he gonna be a me guy? Is he gonna point fingers? 417 00:19:22,508 --> 00:19:25,988 Speaker 1: He saw the Duke Johnson situation on Twitter unfold when 418 00:19:25,988 --> 00:19:28,068 Speaker 1: he said you know, you need to get on either 419 00:19:28,148 --> 00:19:30,108 Speaker 1: you're training, you're on this train, or you're not right like. 420 00:19:30,228 --> 00:19:33,188 Speaker 1: Those type of things become personal. And so for me, 421 00:19:33,348 --> 00:19:35,588 Speaker 1: if you're playing well, I'm okay with that. But if 422 00:19:35,628 --> 00:19:37,588 Speaker 1: you've been playing like you had the last couple of years, 423 00:19:37,748 --> 00:19:41,468 Speaker 1: it becomes an issue the starting point for trade negotiations. 424 00:19:41,508 --> 00:19:43,828 Speaker 1: With all these guys we're talking about it, it's pretty 425 00:19:43,908 --> 00:19:46,268 Speaker 1: much the same whether it's Matt Ryan or Baker Mayfield, 426 00:19:46,308 --> 00:19:48,828 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Every team trading a player like that is 427 00:19:48,868 --> 00:19:52,468 Speaker 1: looking for a second round draft pick and maybe something more. 428 00:19:52,588 --> 00:19:55,308 Speaker 1: The thing is is this has evolved and his seats 429 00:19:55,308 --> 00:19:57,308 Speaker 1: have kind of gotten taken. Here, We've gone from a 430 00:19:57,348 --> 00:19:59,988 Speaker 1: bit of a seller's market to more of a buyer's market. 431 00:20:00,028 --> 00:20:02,748 Speaker 1: In other words, the Colts, everybody knows that they need 432 00:20:02,788 --> 00:20:05,588 Speaker 1: a quarterback, but you've got those is available. You've got 433 00:20:05,628 --> 00:20:07,988 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota who's a free agent. You got guys like 434 00:20:08,028 --> 00:20:11,068 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton who's a free agent. The Colts don't need 435 00:20:11,148 --> 00:20:13,748 Speaker 1: to go all in and make another big trade. They 436 00:20:13,748 --> 00:20:15,668 Speaker 1: can kind of let this thing come to them a 437 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:19,468 Speaker 1: little bit and potentially get value. So specifically to Baker Mayfield, 438 00:20:19,508 --> 00:20:21,988 Speaker 1: he's coming off an injury. Play dear, as you guys 439 00:20:22,028 --> 00:20:24,628 Speaker 1: mentioned twenty twenty, he played at a really high level, 440 00:20:24,708 --> 00:20:26,828 Speaker 1: led him to their first playoff win in like twenty 441 00:20:26,868 --> 00:20:29,468 Speaker 1: six years. He made clear when they went after de 442 00:20:29,548 --> 00:20:32,668 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson that he wanted out. He wanted a fresh 443 00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:35,628 Speaker 1: start someplace else. It's apparent now he's going to get that. 444 00:20:36,028 --> 00:20:38,988 Speaker 1: But the entire league knows that the Browns in all 445 00:20:39,068 --> 00:20:41,788 Speaker 1: likelihood have to trade him. He's also has an eighteen 446 00:20:41,828 --> 00:20:45,028 Speaker 1: point eight million dollars salary. Cleveland potentially may have to 447 00:20:45,068 --> 00:20:47,788 Speaker 1: eat some of that money in order to move him 448 00:20:47,828 --> 00:20:52,108 Speaker 1: for value here. Mayfield would like to be an Indianapolis Colt. 449 00:20:52,308 --> 00:20:54,068 Speaker 1: Is that where he's actually going to end up. He 450 00:20:54,148 --> 00:20:56,548 Speaker 1: depends in part on all these other moving pieces and 451 00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,148 Speaker 1: where some of these other quarterbacks may go. And when 452 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:02,828 Speaker 1: he's expensive too, the Colts can afford him. Valord doesn't 453 00:21:02,908 --> 00:21:06,108 Speaker 1: like to spend money. Baker Mayfield has not done himself 454 00:21:06,228 --> 00:21:08,868 Speaker 1: any favors. The market can't be booming for him because 455 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:10,588 Speaker 1: of what he looked like on the field the past year. 456 00:21:10,668 --> 00:21:12,188 Speaker 1: I think it helps him that there are a lot 457 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:14,948 Speaker 1: of teams that want to upgrade a quarterback or have needs. 458 00:21:14,988 --> 00:21:17,868 Speaker 1: The Colts, the Saints, the Seahawks, the Panthers all looking 459 00:21:17,948 --> 00:21:20,628 Speaker 1: so that sort of helps him. I think his market 460 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:24,308 Speaker 1: is below Jimmy Garoppolo would much rather have him from 461 00:21:24,308 --> 00:21:26,908 Speaker 1: a winning perspective. I know he's coming off an injury. 462 00:21:26,908 --> 00:21:28,668 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that I sort of look at 463 00:21:28,708 --> 00:21:31,388 Speaker 1: as a problem there. But his record, the fact that 464 00:21:31,428 --> 00:21:33,828 Speaker 1: he distinguished himself as an adult in the way he 465 00:21:33,868 --> 00:21:36,828 Speaker 1: handled the tree Land situation. As a teammate. Teammates all 466 00:21:36,868 --> 00:21:39,068 Speaker 1: love him, they speak about him. I think that matters 467 00:21:39,068 --> 00:21:40,988 Speaker 1: when you're pinning the two against each other and trying 468 00:21:40,988 --> 00:21:43,388 Speaker 1: to make a decision. Hell, Jamis might have been a 469 00:21:43,428 --> 00:21:45,948 Speaker 1: better option. What he I mean Jamis last year was 470 00:21:45,948 --> 00:21:47,748 Speaker 1: five and two, took care of the football. Come by 471 00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:51,028 Speaker 1: the fact that his price tag is significantly less than 472 00:21:51,028 --> 00:21:53,708 Speaker 1: this eighteen million dollars a Tom Pillisaro was talking about 473 00:21:53,748 --> 00:21:56,348 Speaker 1: for Baker, and I think that all matters. There's intriguing candidates. 474 00:21:56,388 --> 00:21:58,988 Speaker 1: There is a potential market there for trades too. You 475 00:21:59,028 --> 00:22:01,308 Speaker 1: look at a guy like Jordan Love, what's up with him? 476 00:22:01,428 --> 00:22:03,788 Speaker 1: There's the Tyler Huntley of it all. When you're looking 477 00:22:03,828 --> 00:22:07,228 Speaker 1: at guys, I think there's intrigue we're talking about upside 478 00:22:07,228 --> 00:22:09,668 Speaker 1: with them as well. He did not help himself out. 479 00:22:09,708 --> 00:22:11,908 Speaker 1: And then there's this powder keg aspect to him that 480 00:22:11,948 --> 00:22:14,188 Speaker 1: you have to wait in and stomach as well, so 481 00:22:14,308 --> 00:22:16,748 Speaker 1: he'll find a place to play. It's definitely something to 482 00:22:16,828 --> 00:22:19,308 Speaker 1: keep our eyes on. I'll ask you what Kyle from 483 00:22:19,348 --> 00:22:23,068 Speaker 1: like a like a football perspective. Why Baker over Jimmy Well? 484 00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:25,308 Speaker 1: I look at it a couple of ways. The Indianapolis 485 00:22:25,308 --> 00:22:27,148 Speaker 1: Colts make it really fascinated. If it was just any 486 00:22:27,188 --> 00:22:29,908 Speaker 1: other suitor who just needs a quarterback, like any that's fine. 487 00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:32,748 Speaker 1: The Colts have this really loaded thing where they're like, 488 00:22:32,828 --> 00:22:35,268 Speaker 1: we're getting made fun of and we're looking at ourselves 489 00:22:35,268 --> 00:22:37,308 Speaker 1: in the mirror and saying, every single year we have 490 00:22:37,348 --> 00:22:39,388 Speaker 1: a different quarterback. This is kind of a joke. Now 491 00:22:39,428 --> 00:22:41,668 Speaker 1: we need to figure out some kind of stability. So 492 00:22:41,908 --> 00:22:44,868 Speaker 1: is Baker the answer of the guy? Probably not. And 493 00:22:44,908 --> 00:22:46,828 Speaker 1: then the other prism that I think it's interesting to 494 00:22:46,828 --> 00:22:48,388 Speaker 1: look through is the way we started the show talking 495 00:22:48,388 --> 00:22:50,588 Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson and why the Browns did what they 496 00:22:50,588 --> 00:22:52,108 Speaker 1: did to get him. It's like you got an arm 497 00:22:52,188 --> 00:22:55,268 Speaker 1: up right now, and MJD referenced Daniel Jeremiah's take is 498 00:22:55,268 --> 00:22:57,748 Speaker 1: that the whole league watched Bills versus Chiefs in the 499 00:22:57,748 --> 00:23:00,708 Speaker 1: playoffs and said, we got nothing unless we got an 500 00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:03,908 Speaker 1: absolute killer at quarterback. So who is that is? Can 501 00:23:03,948 --> 00:23:06,508 Speaker 1: they can pete in the AFC with Jimmy Garoppolo or 502 00:23:06,548 --> 00:23:09,628 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan or Jamis or Baker. There might be a 503 00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:11,908 Speaker 1: sense in the AFC, and certainly with the Colts, about 504 00:23:12,108 --> 00:23:14,188 Speaker 1: we just need to go big. Maybe it's a risk, 505 00:23:14,308 --> 00:23:16,668 Speaker 1: and maybe it's not the best fit. Who has the 506 00:23:16,788 --> 00:23:20,068 Speaker 1: highest ceiling. Who can we hone and say, oh my god, 507 00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:22,228 Speaker 1: one day we can put up forty points. And I 508 00:23:22,228 --> 00:23:24,868 Speaker 1: remember the game that Baker went on Monday Night against Lamar, 509 00:23:24,948 --> 00:23:27,588 Speaker 1: the infamous game when Lamar had cramps, Baker's going back 510 00:23:27,628 --> 00:23:29,428 Speaker 1: and forth and it was this great showcase, and it 511 00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:31,468 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this could be the Baker Mayfield we 512 00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:33,748 Speaker 1: get if you believe in that. And you're the Colts 513 00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:37,028 Speaker 1: and saying we also need a quarterback of mass destruction 514 00:23:37,068 --> 00:23:39,308 Speaker 1: who was a number one overall pick. Maybe that's the 515 00:23:39,348 --> 00:23:42,468 Speaker 1: reason you go for him, just by ceiling character and 516 00:23:42,548 --> 00:23:45,388 Speaker 1: injury be damn, come on, Baker would be a brilliant 517 00:23:45,388 --> 00:23:47,748 Speaker 1: fit in Indie. It would be amazing. The question is 518 00:23:47,748 --> 00:23:50,508 Speaker 1: is Jimmy Garoppolo an even better fit there in Indian 519 00:23:50,508 --> 00:23:52,548 Speaker 1: That's what these gms and these front officers are weighing 520 00:23:52,588 --> 00:23:54,148 Speaker 1: right now. We've got so much to get to today. 521 00:23:54,148 --> 00:23:55,708 Speaker 1: Prom days are going on. We've got Tom Phillis there 522 00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:57,668 Speaker 1: with all the info. There's a Matt Ryan of it. 523 00:23:57,748 --> 00:23:59,668 Speaker 1: All that trade could happen. We'll see what happens there. 524 00:23:59,788 --> 00:24:01,908 Speaker 1: The top quarterbacks in the draft will take to field 525 00:24:02,028 --> 00:24:04,628 Speaker 1: this week. It begins today with Pitts Kenny Pickett Pro 526 00:24:04,708 --> 00:24:07,308 Speaker 1: Day Season Path to the Draft has a covered path 527 00:24:07,348 --> 00:24:09,588 Speaker 1: to the draft Pro Day special starting today at two 528 00:24:09,588 --> 00:24:14,868 Speaker 1: pm Eastern and right here on NFL NetWorld. Oh, those 529 00:24:14,948 --> 00:24:18,028 Speaker 1: AFC quarterbacks are good. Trying to chase them down will 530 00:24:18,068 --> 00:24:21,068 Speaker 1: be like chasing a laser pointer on the carpet. Why 531 00:24:21,108 --> 00:24:23,628 Speaker 1: do I use that comparison? That's cat talk right there 532 00:24:23,668 --> 00:24:26,948 Speaker 1: in the Inimitable Maurice Jones drew as a cat with 533 00:24:26,988 --> 00:24:30,388 Speaker 1: which he will help rank the AFC quarterbacks in the 534 00:24:30,428 --> 00:24:33,228 Speaker 1: segment you just saw, fight my five some Maurice. First introduction, 535 00:24:33,308 --> 00:24:34,988 Speaker 1: tell the world who you're holding, and then give us 536 00:24:35,028 --> 00:24:38,388 Speaker 1: your top five AFC quarterbacks. Well, world, I challenge you 537 00:24:38,428 --> 00:24:42,228 Speaker 1: to find a prettier cat than JaMarcus Jit Jones Drew 538 00:24:42,268 --> 00:24:44,348 Speaker 1: who decided to wake up and come in the office 539 00:24:44,388 --> 00:24:46,388 Speaker 1: this morning. But let's just get right to a JaMarcus. 540 00:24:46,388 --> 00:24:49,108 Speaker 1: You ready, let's go, here we go. Number five, which 541 00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:51,708 Speaker 1: was tough. Number five was tough. I'm not gonna lie. 542 00:24:51,748 --> 00:24:53,308 Speaker 1: It was one of the harder ones to do. But 543 00:24:53,548 --> 00:24:56,108 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Justin Herbert. I think you saw 544 00:24:56,108 --> 00:24:58,628 Speaker 1: the growth from year one to year two. You saw 545 00:24:58,628 --> 00:25:00,228 Speaker 1: the arm Forred. This was one of the best throws 546 00:25:00,428 --> 00:25:02,628 Speaker 1: we saw all year, rolling to your right, being able 547 00:25:02,668 --> 00:25:04,988 Speaker 1: to play, and I feel like they're they're holding around 548 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:07,588 Speaker 1: him and the chargers are kind of stopped. They're gonna 549 00:25:07,588 --> 00:25:09,548 Speaker 1: stop charging, you know what I mean. They're gonna finally 550 00:25:09,548 --> 00:25:11,268 Speaker 1: win the big one, getting the playoffs, gonna be a 551 00:25:11,308 --> 00:25:13,028 Speaker 1: tough team to deal with. One of the teams that 552 00:25:13,028 --> 00:25:14,868 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams were worried about last year. 553 00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:19,428 Speaker 1: Number four. Let's get to it. A guy that's probably 554 00:25:19,428 --> 00:25:21,828 Speaker 1: gonna get paid, Lamar Jackson. He was banged up a 555 00:25:21,828 --> 00:25:24,348 Speaker 1: little bit last year. Their team as a whole was 556 00:25:24,388 --> 00:25:27,308 Speaker 1: banged up, but Lamar is still the most dynamic player 557 00:25:27,348 --> 00:25:29,868 Speaker 1: at the position, with both his arm and his legs 558 00:25:29,868 --> 00:25:31,788 Speaker 1: as we're seeing him throw the ball more and more 559 00:25:32,468 --> 00:25:34,388 Speaker 1: each year. Still one of the guys that when he 560 00:25:34,468 --> 00:25:36,668 Speaker 1: takes off, you hold your breath because he could go 561 00:25:36,788 --> 00:25:40,948 Speaker 1: ninety nine if he has to. There. Number three, we're 562 00:25:40,948 --> 00:25:47,148 Speaker 1: gonna go with Joe Cool, Joe too cool, Burrow making plays. Listen, 563 00:25:47,748 --> 00:25:51,148 Speaker 1: you took a franchise from the depths of Hell and 564 00:25:51,188 --> 00:25:53,268 Speaker 1: brought him to the heaven Football Heaven almost had a 565 00:25:53,308 --> 00:25:56,108 Speaker 1: chance to win it. You had sacked so many times 566 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:57,748 Speaker 1: last year. I don't even know what the number was. 567 00:25:58,068 --> 00:26:00,748 Speaker 1: Hurt as close to seventy or over seventy times. He 568 00:26:00,828 --> 00:26:04,028 Speaker 1: had sacked seven times in the Super Bowl, still had 569 00:26:04,028 --> 00:26:05,868 Speaker 1: a chance to win it. That is love when he 570 00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:07,468 Speaker 1: brings to the table what he's been able to do 571 00:26:07,548 --> 00:26:10,148 Speaker 1: for this organization and what he does for that those 572 00:26:10,148 --> 00:26:13,788 Speaker 1: players there as well. Number two. We talked about the 573 00:26:13,868 --> 00:26:18,188 Speaker 1: tow in the show. You gotta get you a Josh Allen, Right, 574 00:26:18,188 --> 00:26:19,868 Speaker 1: when you can't run the ball, he runs the ball. 575 00:26:20,228 --> 00:26:22,108 Speaker 1: When you needed a big play, he's able to make it. 576 00:26:22,268 --> 00:26:24,388 Speaker 1: I wasn't high on him coming out of Wyoming, but 577 00:26:24,468 --> 00:26:26,708 Speaker 1: over the years, throughout his career, he's made He's gotten 578 00:26:26,748 --> 00:26:29,948 Speaker 1: better and better and better, to the point where you 579 00:26:30,028 --> 00:26:32,548 Speaker 1: have teams trading for top notch quarterbacks because of what 580 00:26:32,548 --> 00:26:35,028 Speaker 1: he's been able to do in Buffalo Um and so 581 00:26:35,108 --> 00:26:37,748 Speaker 1: for me, Josh Allen is one of the top guys 582 00:26:37,748 --> 00:26:39,428 Speaker 1: and number one. You know what it is? Do we 583 00:26:39,468 --> 00:26:42,428 Speaker 1: even have to talk about it. It's my homeboy, it's 584 00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:47,388 Speaker 1: your homeboy. It's everybody's homeboy in Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes, 585 00:26:47,668 --> 00:26:49,828 Speaker 1: he makes it. He's the He's the straw that stirs 586 00:26:49,868 --> 00:26:53,388 Speaker 1: this drink in the AFC. Everyone's trying to compete with him. 587 00:26:53,628 --> 00:26:55,828 Speaker 1: We talked about the AFC West and everyone trying to 588 00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:58,308 Speaker 1: get better to compete with the Chiefs. I don't know 589 00:26:58,348 --> 00:27:01,588 Speaker 1: if they've done enough. We'll see when the Chiefs are 590 00:27:01,668 --> 00:27:03,788 Speaker 1: rolling and Mahomes is on point. He's he's the best 591 00:27:03,868 --> 00:27:06,508 Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League. Con Me tell me 592 00:27:06,508 --> 00:27:08,668 Speaker 1: what you guys think about it. I mean, Patrick Mahone's 593 00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:11,228 Speaker 1: on there. He's the only guy that's won a Super 594 00:27:11,268 --> 00:27:14,628 Speaker 1: Bowl that's on your list. Doesn't the Super Bowls mean 595 00:27:14,868 --> 00:27:17,188 Speaker 1: something to you? M JT. I don't know about what 596 00:27:17,348 --> 00:27:19,628 Speaker 1: jam Marcus thinks about this. I'd like his thoughts as well, 597 00:27:19,628 --> 00:27:23,308 Speaker 1: but you omitted Russell Wilson a Super Bowl champion, which 598 00:27:23,348 --> 00:27:25,468 Speaker 1: means in the AFC West you have him as the 599 00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:28,508 Speaker 1: third best quarterback in that division at best. This is 600 00:27:28,548 --> 00:27:30,948 Speaker 1: the thing with Russell Wilson. Russell won his Super Bowl 601 00:27:30,948 --> 00:27:32,988 Speaker 1: with a great defense and a great running game, went 602 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:35,188 Speaker 1: back to back. Then after that it was all about 603 00:27:35,228 --> 00:27:38,308 Speaker 1: Russ Cook and the Seahawks haven't been the same and 604 00:27:38,388 --> 00:27:40,588 Speaker 1: so for me, I need to see him take a 605 00:27:40,668 --> 00:27:43,508 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs throwing the ball and run through 606 00:27:43,508 --> 00:27:45,588 Speaker 1: the playoffs throwing the ball. We haven't seen that yet 607 00:27:45,828 --> 00:27:47,428 Speaker 1: and when you look at it, when you look at 608 00:27:47,468 --> 00:27:51,508 Speaker 1: the AFC West, he may be the fourth best quarterback, right. 609 00:27:51,828 --> 00:27:54,148 Speaker 1: I mean again, Russell Wilson has been able to do 610 00:27:54,148 --> 00:27:56,748 Speaker 1: a lot of things improvising, but in the National Football 611 00:27:56,788 --> 00:27:59,188 Speaker 1: League you have to win from the pocket, and when 612 00:27:59,188 --> 00:28:01,668 Speaker 1: he's at his best, it's not necessarily from the pocket. 613 00:28:01,668 --> 00:28:03,868 Speaker 1: With Russell Wilson, I think it speaks to the depth 614 00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:06,588 Speaker 1: of the AFC quarterbacks right now that there are but 615 00:28:06,708 --> 00:28:09,228 Speaker 1: my AC count at least five Pro Bowl or former 616 00:28:09,268 --> 00:28:12,188 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterbacks who did not make MJD's list. Because 617 00:28:12,188 --> 00:28:15,508 Speaker 1: you got Russell Wilson, you do have Deshaun Watson, Ryan Tannehill, 618 00:28:15,668 --> 00:28:18,588 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and even young up and comer Mac Jones 619 00:28:18,668 --> 00:28:20,548 Speaker 1: also not on the list. In other words, if Mac 620 00:28:20,628 --> 00:28:23,788 Speaker 1: Jones is your tenth best quarterback or Derek Carr's your 621 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:26,388 Speaker 1: ninth best quarterback, that shows how hard the road is 622 00:28:26,428 --> 00:28:28,948 Speaker 1: going to be through the AFC. You've only got seven 623 00:28:28,988 --> 00:28:31,388 Speaker 1: playoff spots, So some of these guys aren't making it. 624 00:28:31,628 --> 00:28:33,348 Speaker 1: Not that you can't have a list from the NFC 625 00:28:33,428 --> 00:28:35,508 Speaker 1: two because there's good quarterbacks on that side. But I 626 00:28:35,508 --> 00:28:38,068 Speaker 1: don't know that the depth chart goes that far along 627 00:28:38,108 --> 00:28:40,148 Speaker 1: where Russell Wilson could not be in the top five. 628 00:28:40,148 --> 00:28:42,628 Speaker 1: We're all kind of like that judgment call MJD. A 629 00:28:42,708 --> 00:28:44,788 Speaker 1: couple of things. The people at home, they're seeing that 630 00:28:44,828 --> 00:28:47,428 Speaker 1: you have a cat named JaMarcus. The cat appears to 631 00:28:47,468 --> 00:28:49,508 Speaker 1: be sort of silver and black, might not be in 632 00:28:49,548 --> 00:28:52,228 Speaker 1: the best cardio vascular shape. There's going to be inevitable 633 00:28:52,228 --> 00:28:56,188 Speaker 1: comparisons to another JaMarcus. Is your cat named after JaMarcus Russell? 634 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,388 Speaker 1: And how do you still say at this point, why 635 00:28:59,508 --> 00:29:02,748 Speaker 1: is Mahomes still above Alan? Has Alan not run him down? 636 00:29:02,788 --> 00:29:05,148 Speaker 1: And if not, what makes the difference. Well, I don't 637 00:29:05,188 --> 00:29:08,108 Speaker 1: know if JaMarcus was named after JaMarcus Russell. My daughter 638 00:29:08,188 --> 00:29:10,908 Speaker 1: named him JaMarcus, so whatever she got that name from. 639 00:29:10,948 --> 00:29:13,028 Speaker 1: And then this is the thing. I think, Josh Allen 640 00:29:13,148 --> 00:29:15,548 Speaker 1: is there, but you have to win and the one 641 00:29:15,628 --> 00:29:17,948 Speaker 1: and you talked about Super Bowls right for me, when 642 00:29:17,948 --> 00:29:20,108 Speaker 1: you're head to head, mahomes Is found a way to 643 00:29:20,108 --> 00:29:23,228 Speaker 1: win in the big game against the Buffalo Bills consistently, 644 00:29:23,268 --> 00:29:25,108 Speaker 1: and to me, that's when it comes down to this 645 00:29:25,228 --> 00:29:27,868 Speaker 1: last game. I thought Josh Allen was masterful. He did 646 00:29:27,908 --> 00:29:29,948 Speaker 1: everything you needed to do. Mahomes was just better in 647 00:29:30,028 --> 00:29:32,308 Speaker 1: a more critical time. How do you get three points 648 00:29:32,308 --> 00:29:34,548 Speaker 1: and you go fifty yards or what, I don't even yards. 649 00:29:34,588 --> 00:29:37,028 Speaker 1: They went in like thirteen seconds Like that is what 650 00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:39,148 Speaker 1: makes him the best to me is that they're never out. 651 00:29:39,188 --> 00:29:42,148 Speaker 1: And I love what Andy Reid said, when things get grim, 652 00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:43,948 Speaker 1: be the grim Reaper. And no one's worse than the 653 00:29:43,988 --> 00:29:59,148 Speaker 1: grim Reaper. That's why Mahomes number one. I was folding 654 00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:01,708 Speaker 1: my laundry in the commercial breaks Away left off and 655 00:30:01,748 --> 00:30:04,148 Speaker 1: now I'm back and here we go. Kyle Brandt here 656 00:30:04,148 --> 00:30:07,188 Speaker 1: as well. Marie Jones drew a Tom pilisero Ani block 657 00:30:07,308 --> 00:30:08,988 Speaker 1: was to trade his time for the Lee block let's 658 00:30:09,028 --> 00:30:14,708 Speaker 1: do it Leeblock Lee Block Yep, separating my whites, spowling 659 00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:17,628 Speaker 1: my socks, Tom Pilisero. In the meantime, a mega trade 660 00:30:17,668 --> 00:30:20,508 Speaker 1: went down over the weekend to Shaun Watson headed to Cleveland. 661 00:30:20,628 --> 00:30:22,388 Speaker 1: What do we need to know about the massive trade 662 00:30:22,388 --> 00:30:24,668 Speaker 1: and tell me what it means for Baker Mayfield and 663 00:30:24,748 --> 00:30:28,468 Speaker 1: his value? Now, Okay, Deshaun Watson told the Browns last 664 00:30:28,628 --> 00:30:30,948 Speaker 1: Thursday morning that they were out. He was not going 665 00:30:30,988 --> 00:30:33,148 Speaker 1: to be coming to Cleveland. But by the end of 666 00:30:33,148 --> 00:30:36,268 Speaker 1: the day, the Browns had re engaged, trying to convince 667 00:30:36,348 --> 00:30:38,708 Speaker 1: Watson that this was the right place for him. I 668 00:30:38,788 --> 00:30:41,428 Speaker 1: was told when Watson went to bed on Thursday night 669 00:30:41,428 --> 00:30:43,828 Speaker 1: there was maybe a ten percent chance that he was 670 00:30:43,868 --> 00:30:46,188 Speaker 1: going to end up with the Browns, But overnight he 671 00:30:46,268 --> 00:30:49,628 Speaker 1: continued to think on the roster, the talent, the youth 672 00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:52,388 Speaker 1: of that team. A general manager Andrew Barry who'd been 673 00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:55,228 Speaker 1: very aggressive to get him, and an owner in Jimmy Haslum, 674 00:30:55,388 --> 00:30:58,308 Speaker 1: who had impressed Watson by knowing so much about the 675 00:30:58,428 --> 00:31:03,108 Speaker 1: football operation. They also convinced him with an unprecedented five year, 676 00:31:03,428 --> 00:31:07,548 Speaker 1: two hundred thirty million dollar fully guaranteed contract, something that 677 00:31:07,588 --> 00:31:11,148 Speaker 1: the other teams involved in the Watson negotiations, we're not 678 00:31:11,268 --> 00:31:14,228 Speaker 1: willing to do at a time that Watson continues to 679 00:31:14,268 --> 00:31:18,108 Speaker 1: face serious allegations of sexual misconduct in twenty two civil lawsuits, 680 00:31:18,468 --> 00:31:21,388 Speaker 1: as well as an NFL investigation that could lead to 681 00:31:21,428 --> 00:31:24,508 Speaker 1: a suspension, even after a grand jury in Texas decided 682 00:31:24,868 --> 00:31:28,228 Speaker 1: not to charge him criminally. As for Baker Mayfield, he 683 00:31:28,268 --> 00:31:32,268 Speaker 1: requested a trade from the Browns before Watson had actually 684 00:31:32,308 --> 00:31:34,628 Speaker 1: agreed to terms, and that trade for three first round 685 00:31:34,628 --> 00:31:38,148 Speaker 1: picks and more were executed. The Browns initially said no. 686 00:31:38,148 --> 00:31:40,908 Speaker 1: Now it's obvious that Mayfield will get a fresh start, 687 00:31:41,108 --> 00:31:43,548 Speaker 1: a challenging trade to do because he's due about eighteen 688 00:31:43,588 --> 00:31:47,028 Speaker 1: point eight million dollars fully guaranteed this season, coming off 689 00:31:47,068 --> 00:31:50,628 Speaker 1: a season that was filled with injuries. Expect Mayfield to 690 00:31:50,668 --> 00:31:53,548 Speaker 1: move on, but the exact timing of that remains to 691 00:31:53,588 --> 00:31:56,748 Speaker 1: be seen. Kay Well said by Tom Pelliser, there a 692 00:31:56,788 --> 00:32:01,108 Speaker 1: whopping gratuitous, in my opinion, fully guaranteed contract, one that 693 00:32:01,148 --> 00:32:03,388 Speaker 1: protects to Shaun Watson as well. But let's get into it. 694 00:32:03,868 --> 00:32:06,508 Speaker 1: He's just the latest of quarterbacks or big deals that 695 00:32:06,508 --> 00:32:08,348 Speaker 1: have gone on. It's have been a ridiculous off season, 696 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:11,068 Speaker 1: just one week in and it's just marched now. So 697 00:32:11,348 --> 00:32:15,028 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Guys. We've had on retirements, We've 698 00:32:15,028 --> 00:32:20,148 Speaker 1: had league changing trades, polarizing moves all around, big time 699 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:23,908 Speaker 1: free agent pickups, a separation of some of our favorite bromances. 700 00:32:23,948 --> 00:32:26,388 Speaker 1: It's been a whirlwind. MGD. Who do you think's winning 701 00:32:26,428 --> 00:32:31,028 Speaker 1: the off season so far? The AMC West, right, I mean, 702 00:32:31,068 --> 00:32:32,468 Speaker 1: that's the only one that we could talk about. I 703 00:32:32,508 --> 00:32:35,308 Speaker 1: mean they went into an arms race there. You're talking 704 00:32:35,348 --> 00:32:38,428 Speaker 1: about Khalil Mack traded from the Bears, obviously a partner 705 00:32:38,468 --> 00:32:40,828 Speaker 1: with Joey Bosa there and Los Angeles. Then they go 706 00:32:40,828 --> 00:32:43,508 Speaker 1: and get j C. Jackson. They've made some other moves 707 00:32:43,548 --> 00:32:45,988 Speaker 1: as well that have been polarizing. Mike Williams with the 708 00:32:46,028 --> 00:32:48,428 Speaker 1: big side. Then you have the Broncos with the big 709 00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:51,148 Speaker 1: trade to go get Russell Wilson and Ragny Gregor as 710 00:32:51,188 --> 00:32:54,028 Speaker 1: we see there, and obviously we talked about Davonte Adams 711 00:32:54,028 --> 00:32:57,148 Speaker 1: and Chandler Jones in Las Vegas. And you don't even 712 00:32:57,188 --> 00:32:58,948 Speaker 1: have to put Judie Smith Shuicer up there for the 713 00:32:59,028 --> 00:33:01,148 Speaker 1: Chiefs because they're making all those moves and try to 714 00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:04,708 Speaker 1: guess the Chiefs because they have Patrick Mahomes, tyreech Hill, 715 00:33:05,028 --> 00:33:09,628 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and playmakers as well, and Mikole Hardman and 716 00:33:09,708 --> 00:33:12,068 Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire and they have Eric Enemy as their 717 00:33:12,108 --> 00:33:14,548 Speaker 1: play call. They have so much going on. Everyone's making 718 00:33:14,588 --> 00:33:16,628 Speaker 1: moves to try to compete with the Chiefs. If you're 719 00:33:16,668 --> 00:33:18,708 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you're just happy that you're fortun these teams 720 00:33:18,748 --> 00:33:20,388 Speaker 1: to spend money to kind of put them in a 721 00:33:20,428 --> 00:33:22,308 Speaker 1: salary caphold because they won't be able to sustain this. 722 00:33:22,388 --> 00:33:24,868 Speaker 1: But I mean again, the AMC West, from the beginning 723 00:33:24,868 --> 00:33:27,548 Speaker 1: of free agency or that tampering period until now, they 724 00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:29,788 Speaker 1: have been Everyone's been racing to try to catch the Chiefs. 725 00:33:29,948 --> 00:33:32,948 Speaker 1: It's just a scrum, isn't it. It's just one giant 726 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,868 Speaker 1: royal rumble. And I'm looking at the guys who weren't 727 00:33:35,868 --> 00:33:39,468 Speaker 1: even in the ring. Brady and Stafford, both of them, 728 00:33:39,748 --> 00:33:41,828 Speaker 1: we saw them play in the playoffs last year, and 729 00:33:41,908 --> 00:33:45,308 Speaker 1: like they gotta be sitting here saying, oh my god, 730 00:33:45,628 --> 00:33:49,308 Speaker 1: Let's just look at some of these transactions. Let's follow Pellasero, 731 00:33:49,508 --> 00:33:54,508 Speaker 1: Let's follow Rappaport and just track who is leaving the conference. 732 00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:59,228 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson not our problem, Davante Adams not our problem. 733 00:33:59,668 --> 00:34:05,868 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Khalil Mack, Randy Gregory, Von mill All, people 734 00:34:06,508 --> 00:34:10,468 Speaker 1: leaving the NFC, the NFC playoffs, they're just out. They're 735 00:34:10,508 --> 00:34:13,868 Speaker 1: going over to the varsity and we can just sit here. Meanwhile, 736 00:34:14,108 --> 00:34:17,028 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring Ryan Jensen back, Stafford's gonna bring in 737 00:34:17,508 --> 00:34:20,788 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. And who's entering the NFC from the AFC, 738 00:34:21,228 --> 00:34:25,788 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. You think they're worried about that. Stafford gets 739 00:34:25,788 --> 00:34:30,308 Speaker 1: an extension, Brady gets whatever he wants. Who's who are 740 00:34:30,308 --> 00:34:33,188 Speaker 1: they're afraid of in the NFC. I guess they're gonna, Oh, 741 00:34:33,308 --> 00:34:35,508 Speaker 1: the Packers are gonna get some wide receiver who's gonna 742 00:34:35,548 --> 00:34:37,748 Speaker 1: be a shell of what Davante Adams was. And as 743 00:34:37,748 --> 00:34:40,188 Speaker 1: if we're so afraid of the Packers in the playoffs anyways, 744 00:34:40,228 --> 00:34:42,588 Speaker 1: And we also saw like the Cowboys don't exist anymore 745 00:34:42,588 --> 00:34:44,268 Speaker 1: as a franchise, so there's only three teams in the 746 00:34:44,348 --> 00:34:46,348 Speaker 1: NFC East. They don't have to worry about them. So 747 00:34:46,548 --> 00:34:50,348 Speaker 1: it's Stafford and Brady, like the two good looking superstars. 748 00:34:50,388 --> 00:34:52,868 Speaker 1: They're sitting there being like in the title game, dude, 749 00:34:53,028 --> 00:34:55,868 Speaker 1: let's make a date January something something. Those guys are 750 00:34:55,868 --> 00:34:59,268 Speaker 1: winning and winning and winning Tom part of your reports 751 00:34:59,428 --> 00:35:02,108 Speaker 1: had been part of their winning. The big winner in 752 00:35:02,228 --> 00:35:06,748 Speaker 1: my mind is every top quarterback in the entire NFL. 753 00:35:06,828 --> 00:35:09,348 Speaker 1: Let's pull up those numbers again on the most guaranteed 754 00:35:09,388 --> 00:35:13,028 Speaker 1: money on a contract in NFL history. Of the top 755 00:35:13,108 --> 00:35:18,068 Speaker 1: five all time, three of them the Shawn Watson, Aaron Rodgers, 756 00:35:18,108 --> 00:35:21,428 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford have come in the past two weeks. 757 00:35:21,428 --> 00:35:25,988 Speaker 1: And Watson with the moonshot that completely upends the fundamentals 758 00:35:25,988 --> 00:35:29,508 Speaker 1: of economics in the NFL, with a fully guaranteed two 759 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,708 Speaker 1: or thirty million dollars at signing despite the ongoing legal 760 00:35:32,828 --> 00:35:36,428 Speaker 1: ramifications that he still faces, sets a new bar for 761 00:35:36,508 --> 00:35:39,148 Speaker 1: everyone else. So it's not just these guys who won, 762 00:35:39,508 --> 00:35:43,148 Speaker 1: Rogers and Stafford and Watson. It's all the quarterbacks now 763 00:35:43,148 --> 00:35:45,628 Speaker 1: who are going to get paid. You don't think Kyler 764 00:35:45,748 --> 00:35:48,188 Speaker 1: Murray is looking at those numbers right now when he's 765 00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:51,668 Speaker 1: expecting a new contract with the Cardinals sooner than later. 766 00:35:51,788 --> 00:35:54,188 Speaker 1: You don't think guys like Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert, 767 00:35:54,188 --> 00:35:55,708 Speaker 1: who are going to coup in the next couple of 768 00:35:55,748 --> 00:35:58,988 Speaker 1: years are thinking about it. Lamar Jackson, whatever he wants 769 00:35:59,028 --> 00:36:02,468 Speaker 1: to negotiate the Ravens are standing ready to negotiate. Well, now, 770 00:36:02,668 --> 00:36:04,908 Speaker 1: why would you sit there and say, well, any less 771 00:36:04,908 --> 00:36:07,748 Speaker 1: than two or thirty million dollars fully guaranteed. This is 772 00:36:07,788 --> 00:36:10,948 Speaker 1: the new NFL. These guys are getting paid big time 773 00:36:11,028 --> 00:36:14,028 Speaker 1: in terms of cash flow, in terms of guaranteed. That 774 00:36:14,108 --> 00:36:17,508 Speaker 1: has ripple effects across all quarterbacks. Yeah, those guys always 775 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:20,308 Speaker 1: get paid, but they're getting paid at unprecedented levels. It's 776 00:36:20,348 --> 00:36:23,748 Speaker 1: well said, very well said. I'll go to a team 777 00:36:23,788 --> 00:36:25,868 Speaker 1: that I thought that had that clipboard and it had 778 00:36:25,908 --> 00:36:30,108 Speaker 1: these are the needs babum xxx and that's the Bengals, right. 779 00:36:30,148 --> 00:36:32,148 Speaker 1: They put the tag on Jesse Bates. Hopefully they come 780 00:36:32,188 --> 00:36:34,748 Speaker 1: to agreement with him in the long term. I think 781 00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:37,268 Speaker 1: that would be a great idea. But they got a 782 00:36:37,308 --> 00:36:39,908 Speaker 1: lot better and it wasn't big and it wasn't splashy, 783 00:36:39,948 --> 00:36:43,708 Speaker 1: but they signed former Cowboys stud stud right tackle. So 784 00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:46,268 Speaker 1: happy to see this happen Lyle Collins yesterday. This is 785 00:36:46,268 --> 00:36:48,348 Speaker 1: the cherry on top of a complete rebuild on the 786 00:36:48,388 --> 00:36:50,508 Speaker 1: one weakness they had that was glaring last year, and 787 00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:54,028 Speaker 1: that was the offensive line. Alex Kappa, Ted Carress. It's 788 00:36:54,068 --> 00:36:56,908 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a concerted effort to protect Joe 789 00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:58,628 Speaker 1: Burrow going forward, and they didn't break the bank for 790 00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,228 Speaker 1: some of those guys like toront Are, so that I 791 00:37:00,268 --> 00:37:02,148 Speaker 1: sort of wanted them to. I think they made the 792 00:37:02,268 --> 00:37:04,308 Speaker 1: right moves here and let's let's sleep on how involved 793 00:37:04,428 --> 00:37:06,628 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was in the process. Either. We had Albert 794 00:37:06,628 --> 00:37:09,708 Speaker 1: Greer telling us yesterday, the Burrow said, Hey, Collins coming 795 00:37:09,748 --> 00:37:12,668 Speaker 1: to my house, Kapas coming over, Karis will be here, 796 00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:15,308 Speaker 1: our girlfriends or wives, whatever it might be, and he 797 00:37:15,348 --> 00:37:17,628 Speaker 1: was sort of there. Hayden Hurst, who was newly signed, 798 00:37:17,668 --> 00:37:21,428 Speaker 1: also reportedly at the residence of the Boroughs to sort 799 00:37:21,428 --> 00:37:24,028 Speaker 1: of make it and make it happen. And the Borough 800 00:37:24,068 --> 00:37:26,348 Speaker 1: factor obviously worked. It's a real thing and he was 801 00:37:26,388 --> 00:37:28,108 Speaker 1: part of stealing the deal there. So it was a 802 00:37:28,108 --> 00:37:30,668 Speaker 1: glaring need that they had. They wouldn't address it fully. 803 00:37:30,668 --> 00:37:32,468 Speaker 1: I love seeing there. And then there's other guys on 804 00:37:32,508 --> 00:37:34,628 Speaker 1: the board. Still, the frenzy isn't over. We're a weekend. 805 00:37:34,628 --> 00:37:36,268 Speaker 1: There's guys that have a lot of talent, like a 806 00:37:36,348 --> 00:37:38,908 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengal did 807 00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:41,588 Speaker 1: something sneaky in the next couple of days. And yeah, 808 00:37:41,628 --> 00:37:44,068 Speaker 1: all the excitement about the AFC. Let's not forget about 809 00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:45,828 Speaker 1: the AFC champions, shall we