1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. Mr Ray, how are you this afternoon? 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: I was doing good? How about you? I'm good. Let 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: me get going because we got a lot to go 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: on and talk about today. Let me come in there 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: and wind you up. Yeah, I'm sure I'm all went 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: on up. You know. I took a nap the last hour. 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: I was kind of because I was, and now I'm like, 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: this is ready to come. It's the most wonderful time 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: with the kids dingle belling and everyone telling you be 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: a good cheer. It's the most wonderful time. That car doctor. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, Walt, what do I tell you? B W 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: stands for I think I forgot what virtually worthless? Come on, 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: shame on you? So you know it's yeah, you know 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: it's listen. Volkswagens are great for the economy. You can't 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: buy enough parts in a single day form. Welcome to 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nian the Car Doctor. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Since this is where our owners the world overturn to 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: call in the garage to orders are open. But I 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: five six, and now he running. Hey, hello and welcome 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Ronni in the Car Doctor. It is time to start 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: your engines A five five zero zero the phone number. 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Show dot com is the website. We can 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: do a lot of things from there. You can get 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: out the spreaker and look at the podcast, and we 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: also stream visa v Car Doctor Show dot com, So 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: that's the place to be. I am Ronanini, and I 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: am here to fix your car this hour, as I 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: have in the past and will be in the future, 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: God willing, because that's what this radio show is all about. 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm just here to help you fix your car. No 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: big deal. So if you've got a car problem, if 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: you've got a question, give us a call and let's go. 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Let's get it solved. Let's kick the garage doors open 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: right away because there is a bit of a line. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Craig in Wisconsin. O H Chevy Silverado. Craig, 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, canna help welcome. Hey, 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I gotta when I kick it into uh four wheel drive? Um? 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: The service four wheel drive light comes on? Does it 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: does it actually go into four wheel drive? Uh? It 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of feels like it does once in a while 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the trash control stays on and you can feel the 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: back end and kicking in and out, So it's it's 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily engaged in working correctly. So there's a fault 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: in the system. Yeah, and that's that's that's a statement 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: as well as a question. Um so is it every time, Craig? 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: It does not? Is it every time you shifted into 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: four wheel at the service four wheel drive light comes on? Yep, 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: and I shut I can shut the car off. I'll 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: shut the car off, the truck off, turn it back on, 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and it goes away all right, well until I kick 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: it in the four wheel drive again. So the way 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: this system works in a nutshell is there's there's a 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: trans control, there's a transfer case control module, and an 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: encoder motor. And what General Motors does is, depending upon 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: whether you're four high, four low, or two wheel drive, 59 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: they report to that module gear position or gear shift 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: position in order to help compensate and make changes in 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: how the vehicle's gonna operate. So the simplest and easiest 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: thing to do is somebody needs to hook up through 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the O B D two ports. The diagnostic connected under 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the dashboard and pull codes, but not using a generic 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: scan tool. They've got to go inyear, make, model, They've 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: got to go in vehicle specific uh. Difference being just 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: for just for everyone's enlightenment. And you always hear me 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: talk about o b D two on board Diagnostics. Two 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: on board o b D two is a mission's mandated 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: protocol and coverage covered by the clean air active uh 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: um right ninety one to uh you know, mandate for 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: clean air and went to turn the check engine line on. 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: That's one set of software language. This is going to 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: be a transfer case fault and that is not going 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: to affect emissions, so it will not be covered under 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: O b D two. You've got to go in under 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: vehicle make and model, so it's got to be two 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: thousand h Chevy Silverado. It's got to be a vehicle 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: specific scan tool capable. Likely you will see a C 80 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: as in Charlie C zero three oh six or other 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: C related codes which are transfer case drivetrain type fault. UM. 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: You know this could be from and you know, maybe 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: if you want to crawl under the truck or get 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: it up in the air and look under the truck, 85 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: the transfer case shifting coder motor is is usually on 86 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the front side of the transfer case if I recall 87 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: correct on the driver's side of it. Uh, you know, 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: is there any moisture in the connector? Is a connector damage? 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Is it's still in its bracket? Is it intact? Um? 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Does the module itself? You know? Did something come up 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and strike a component from the road. It's you know, 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: we've got this computer mounted down low, which you know, 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: depending upon the rough road er on in your four 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: wheel drive vehicle, can create havoc. Short of that, it's 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: got to get diagnosed. Um, it's it's got to get diagnosed, 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: and I would encourage you to do it sooner rather 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: than later, because operating it in what I'll call not 98 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: correct four wheel drive or you know, um uh not 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: correctly set up four wheel drive can hurt and do 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: more harm than good. You know. So it's um, it's 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's really something that you get looked 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: at right away. Alright, sir, Okay, how I have a 103 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I'll have the cold run in that and do it 104 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: under the model and yeah, what kind of what what 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of scanto do you have? I don't have one, 106 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: but a guy that's got he's got two, okay, as 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: long as as long as he can get into and 108 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: when I say year make model, it's got to be 109 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: year make model. And then it's got to be ill 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to get to all modules, all systems. So so he 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: could he could go into and I guess I've got 112 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: to add this now into my into my language. There's 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: O B D two emissions related, there's ear Make model 114 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: emissions related. Then there's ear Make model all systems, meaning 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: it will look at engine or you know, powertrain control module, 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: which is emissions, transmission, transfer case, instrument panel, entertainment, mirrors, ABS, 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: air bag. You know, the number of systems is just 118 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: it just goes on and on and on. There could 119 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: be there could be forty fifties, sixty modules on some 120 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: cars today on on you know everyday common cars, Chevy 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: and palas um uh, you know Ford Explorers. You know, 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't take much for a vehicle to have 123 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: four to your fifty control modules in it. So when 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: I say here, make models specific, your make models specific 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: with the capability to look at all vehicle modules. That's 126 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: the easiest way to make that statement for me. All right, sir, 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: all right, yep, thank you, Good luck to you, Craig. 128 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to David and Iowa two 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: thousand three Malibu and what's going on here? David, welcome 130 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, Sir, how can I help? Thank 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: you very much. I'd like to make a quick comment 132 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: before we get to the several way. I want to 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: wish you were in your staff. A merry Christmas and 134 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: a happy new Year. And Christophers Tin is all about 135 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: love and thank god you're there to answer our questions 136 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: and get us out of trouble. I appreciate that now. 137 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: But on the maland blewis like wise car she got 138 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a lift that went bad and and it's been going 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: ah stivity tap tap for about a three months now. 140 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: And I put to a mechanic and uh, he said, no, 141 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't worry that it will keep on running for 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: a little while. No. I don't know what he meant 143 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: by a little while. And I just wanted is it, Uh, 144 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: how hard of the job is it just to replace 145 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: the lifters? She's had two of thousand miles on. I'm 146 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: thinking we're just gonna let her blow up or whatever 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: quit and then we'll be able to honestly get rid 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: of a little well, you know, David, the problem is, 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, is it just a lifter? Is the lifter 150 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: hydraulically collapsed or or you know, blocked or restricted because 151 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: there's dirt or contaminant in the oil not allowing it 152 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: to operate properly? Is it sticky? Is it? Is it 153 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: that there's a problem somewhere else in the drive train? 154 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Is the camlow partially worn causing the lifting noise? I mean, 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of possibilities. Uh, to get to it. 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: The intake manifold has to come off. This is the 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: V six correct, this is the three V six. Yeah, 158 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: so you know the intake manifold has to come off, 159 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: which is a bit involved. Uh. You know, it's not 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: for the faint of heart, you know. I think as 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, didn't you call in a while 162 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: back over the summer you had a Monte Carlo that 163 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: was sitting behind a gas station somewhere that you were 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: working on the kind of stuff on But I just 165 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: sacrificed everything, all the good parts and everything we put 166 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: on it. Right, But but you you took that intake 167 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: manifold off, correct, didn't didn't you know? Anything. He just 168 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: listened to it and come out and give me an opinion. 169 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: I think yeah, no, no, no, I mean, I mean 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: on on the other car, I thought you had worked 171 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: on the intake. You had some sort of problem with 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: coolings or something. But regardless, um, you know, it depends 173 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: on how a lot of the noises all right, you know, 174 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: how much of a noise is it and how much 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: do you want to invest? Uh, you know it's not allowed. 176 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: It's not allowed noise. You could just you could hear it, 177 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, but when you're driving you can't really hear 178 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: it too much. It's like it's like a watch tick. Yeah, yeah, 179 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I'd probably let it go. You could try, just just 180 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: for you know, giggles. You could try putting in uh, 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, some sort of cleaner in the oil they make, Um, 182 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: they make various products out there. Uh. Sometimes the best 183 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: thing in the world is a pint of automatic transmission fluid, 184 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: good old e M decks. Put a pint of decks 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: in it and let the car sit in idle for 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, a half hour an hour and see if 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: the tick goes away, see if it frees up any sludge, 188 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: and then change the oil before you drive. It. Um, 189 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: you could put maybe a quarter or a half a pint, 190 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: half a pint on half of a pint, so a 191 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: quarter of a quart and and drive the car and 192 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: um see if that frees it up over time. But 193 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: at the real question becomes, it's at sixteen years old 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and two or thousand miles how deep do you want 195 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: to get? Everything's fixable. It just depends on the pocketbook, 196 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: and you know what you want to do. I don't 197 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: want to wrong you know what. I think you know, David, 198 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Not not that I can see from my seat here, 199 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: but I think to worry about a tick on sixteen 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: years old, twoher thousand miles worth of car, I think 201 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other things that could happen. Um, 202 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: you know the time bomb is already ticking, no pun intended. 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you said that, because you know I 204 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: value your opinion. Ron get rid of the damn thing. 205 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll get rid of it. Yeah. I think I think 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: it's you know why, because you know winter is coming. 207 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: My way of thinking winter's coming. The road is a 208 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: very unforgiving place, you know. Whether she gets a flat 209 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: tire or the engine grenade somewhere on a back road 210 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: in Iowa in the winter. Can't be too warm there. Uh, 211 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: come January February, we won't find And it's it's a 212 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: matter of safety. It's what's your life worth. And I'm 213 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: always floored by I admire the way you think day 214 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: because I'm always floored by people that will be you 215 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: know what, we can sneak our way through until March 216 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: or April. We don't need to put tires on it, 217 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: or we don't need we don't need to fix the 218 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: charging system, or we don't have to put wiper blades 219 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: on it. It's um the road is a very unforgiving place. 220 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, if the option is there to 221 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: replace it, let's replace it now and all sleep good 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: at night. Bottom long. God makes you guys, and thank 223 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: you Ron. I really appreciate it, and you have a 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: wonderful holiday. YouTube David Merry Christmas eight five five zero 225 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Run any of the car doctor coming 226 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: back right after this time right on the wall so 227 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 229 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over and talk 230 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: to John and Georgia. Oh seven shifty and Pala John. 231 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? Um, yeah, 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I got a problem with my oh seven in palace. Um. 233 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: We get the morning when we go to start it up, 234 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: and I get it ready for my wife, uh to 235 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: heat on high and stuff. And about twenty minutes later 236 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: we come out there and it's rolling code air. So 237 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: she gets in it and drives away, and about four 238 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: or five minutes later he starts blowing hot air. So 239 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: I take it to the dealership and the first thing 240 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: they said was slow on and the freeze, so they 241 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: put anti freeze, and then they said there was a 242 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: crack and the radiator, so they think that uh, and 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: then they gave it back to me. The next day, 244 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: same thing happens. I take it back and they said that, uh, 245 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: it's leaking again, and they checked the water pump with 246 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: bad so they put the new water pumps in. Came 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: back next day, did the same thing. There no heat, 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: So then they said it was a switch, so they 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: put a new switch in and and then that's it 250 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: again in the next day. So I really don't know 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: what the chance to do, you now, okay um, but 252 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: I bet they collected money all along the way right. 253 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I bet they collected money from you all along the 254 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: way right, Yeah, about three different times. The uh anti freeze. 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: So that's what the shop there. Yeah yeah, I mean 256 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: the first comment about it being low on anti freeze 257 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: and you know the cracking already. That makes sense, right, 258 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: low cool low coolant level. The system's air bound, that 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. So you know the rest of it. 260 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, are we reaching? Uh? You know, my 261 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: question would be listen, if I was the shop foreman, 262 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: my comment to the tech working on it would be, 263 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: here's this Impella. It's low on cooling. It needs a radiator. 264 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Make sure you bleed the air from the system. Make 265 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: sure before the vehicle leaves it's got heat, and make 266 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: sure you pressure check it to look for other leaks. 267 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean that would be common sense, wouldn't it. Uh, 268 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, to come back and then because now you 269 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: know what it is, you the customer, You're you're losing 270 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: faith in them as a repair shop, and and they 271 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: look stupid. Um And you know, right listen, dude, I 272 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: call him like, I see, I've been doing this too long. 273 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm allowed that luxury. Uh. You know what stupid is 274 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: a stupid, and Ron doesn't like to look stoopid. Ron 275 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: tries to be as as accurate as he can. So, 276 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, the first question I've got is if someone 277 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: were to start this cold in the morning, obviously it's 278 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna be cold there. But once the thermostat opens, once 279 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: we get up the heat, where's the heat? Where? Where 280 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: is this is? This? Is this um still blowing cold air? Uh? 281 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, my first question would be what's engine temp? 282 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: If engine Tampa is a eighty two dred degrees, I 283 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: gotta have hot air coming out of the ducks. If 284 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't, then let's go to the heater hoses. Feel 285 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the two heaters. Is one's gonna be a little hotter 286 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: than the other, but they're both going to be hot. 287 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: One will be if the engine is a proper temperature, 288 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: one's gonna be uncomfortable to touch. The other one is 289 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, a little less typically derees. If 290 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: if if I've got could flow through the core, I'm 291 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna have too hot hoses. And and at that point, 292 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, what do I got If I'm still blowing stone? 293 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Call there stone called John, Then I then I'm gonna 294 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: tell you one of the one of the blend doors. 295 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Think of the front door to your house. Okay, front 296 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: door to your house. You want to get more air 297 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: into the house, you go over and manually open the door. 298 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: On a car today we use something called servo motors. 299 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: It's just a little electric motor made completely out of 300 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: plastic and copper. I think they took all the guys 301 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: that were racing slot cars in the sixties and they 302 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: had them design these things because they're really cheesy. And 303 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: this little plastic motor opens and closes the door to 304 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: allow air to blow over the heater core and to 305 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: position air away from the heater core hot called cooler, 306 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. Um, if it's blowing stone, call there, maybe 307 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I've got a stuck blend door. Al right. That that 308 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: the door and the you know, for whatever reason, it 309 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: doesn't get moving until the vehicle is running. Um, or 310 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: do I have a restricted heater core? Is the core 311 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: itself clogged or partially restricted? How many miles are on 312 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: this car? You know, it probably wouldn't hurt the backflush 313 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: the core and that's that's simple enough to do. I'm 314 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: sure any competent mechanic and figure that out. Although I'm 315 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: not sure if the dealership you took it too, could 316 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: because I'd be surprised that they let the car go 317 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: to you know, every time they did something, it would 318 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: it would start to be done. It would because that's 319 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: just what it did. It's only in the morning when 320 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: it sits overnight. That doesn't well, you know, why don't 321 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: we take it to them on Tuesday night and this 322 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: way on Wednesday they can start it and see it 323 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: blow cold? Are right? Yeah? I mean that would be 324 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: the you know, in their defense and I'll defend somebody 325 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: to to to the death, but in their defense if 326 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: they can't see the problem, listen. I I almost got 327 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: into a not an argument, but a little bit of 328 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a heated discussion with someone on Friday. She didn't understand. 329 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: She came in for an oil engines. She said, check 330 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the battery. Okay, I changed the oil. I checked the battery. 331 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: The battery pass. She goes, well, did you fix the 332 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: battery light. You didn't say fixed the battery light? You 333 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: said fix the battery or check the battery. Turns out 334 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: her battery lights coming on intermittently, and I had to 335 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: explain to her, if I can't see the problem, I 336 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: can either guess or wait till the problem becomes more predominant. 337 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Same thing with your guys if they can't see the problem. 338 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: So here's what we're gonna do. You're gonna go back 339 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: to these guys. I was here three times. I gave 340 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: you good money. You know what you're my guys. I 341 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: want you to fix this car. It's time for this 342 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: cup of coffee conversation about I'm gonna leave it the 343 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: night before, tell me what you think it is, and 344 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: then we'll go from there. All right, do that and 345 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: call me back. I'm curious. I'm on the end of 346 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Hey, 347 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on any of the card operated by 348 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: five play six zero Tom and Wisconsin oh four Honda Odyssey. 349 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna go on an odyssey here and fix Tom's car. Tom. 350 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Well, I can't keep 351 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: this car running. The battery keeps greening on me. Had 352 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: everything checked out on it. If you drive it every day, 353 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: it's fine, But if you leave a sip for three 354 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: to three or four days, battery stone dead. So have 355 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: we have we done this? Do you have to drive 356 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: this car? Well? Let me, let's go through basics. They've 357 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: done a battery load test, all right, you know they've 358 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: charged the battery. They've done a battery load test, the 359 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: battery passes, okay, They've done a charging system test. They've 360 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: checked the alternator and make sure alternator voltage and amperage 361 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: output is correct. Yes, okay, and then the vehicle sits 362 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: and the battery still goes dead. Have they done a 363 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: draw test? Do you know what a draw do? You do? 364 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: You understand what a draw test is? When I say 365 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: draw test, I don't, but I'm sure the mechanic does. Well. 366 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Never assume, um, you know, never assume if if if 367 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes the simplest things. Has he said 368 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: he's done a draw test. I've watched him put a 369 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: meter on the on the battery and uh looking at 370 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: it and it may be something like point zero two 371 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: or amps maybe where where it's just sitting idle. Uh. 372 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: They're saying that's um that you know to keep the 373 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: computer running and the clock and they Milliams. So did 374 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: they do this test with the battery disconnected? Okay? They 375 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: disconnected one of the battery cables and they put a 376 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: meter in series with the cable. Yes, Okay, Um, they're correct, 377 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: fifty milliams is considered the maximum. But so it sounds 378 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: like what you're describing to me as twenty milliams and 379 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: it took what minutes for that number to drop down 380 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: and be an acceptable draw. Does that sound about right? 381 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure. I mean, they checked it 382 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: out a couple of different times, and it's been it 383 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: was sitting down here for a couple of weeks, and 384 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: then the last time I went to go get it, 385 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: it was dead. And then I checked it again and 386 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: it was it was looking like dad. We used different 387 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: batteries that had my battery back to the battery shop. 388 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: They not to there for five days. They checked it 389 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: every day and it was fine. We used one of 390 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: the mechanics shops batteries and new battery in it. Um. 391 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: The weird thing is they let it sit one time, 392 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: they said, for three or four days, and it was 393 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: perfectly fine, and then with their battery and then we 394 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: put um. So he was saying it was the batteries. 395 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: Then I took it, had the battery checked again for 396 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: about the third time, and they said it was fine, 397 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: and then he actually put his battery in it. They 398 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: drove it on a Monday and and started it up, 399 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: brought it in, put some new tires on and putting 400 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: that coat in the shop. And on Thursday it was 401 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: dead again and that it was their batteries. Do you 402 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: know what? Do you know what a thermal imager is? 403 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: Tom uh sounds familiar, but not exactly. So you know, 404 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: a thermal imager is a fancy heat gun. It takes 405 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: a it will actually present a picture of temperature items 406 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: in in the screen shot. So if the shop hasn't 407 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, snap On makes a great thermal imager. As 408 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they just came out with a 409 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: new version of it. Basically you can just you know, 410 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: parked the car, pop the hood, parked the car. Make 411 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: sure that if the vehicle has um an alarm system 412 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: such that if the hood latch is open, that it 413 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: doesn't create a draw in and of itself. So if 414 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: you have to, you may have the latch a hood 415 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: with the hood up in other words, closed the latch 416 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: by hand to trick the computer into thinking the hood 417 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: is closed, or look for a plunger switch. If there's 418 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: a plunger switch, it's got to get disconnected. Just so 419 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: that we're not creating a draw, but basically we want 420 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: to you know, hood up doors open closed, turn off 421 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: the door switches best way you can, and let that 422 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: vehicle go to sleep. And then we want to take 423 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: a thermal imager and walk around the car. All right, 424 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: what's the temperature? Is everything equal temperature? And we want 425 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: to pay a particular attention to the fuse boxes under 426 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: the hood, So take the covers off, all right. I'm 427 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be surprised. You know, you want to look around. 428 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: There's there should be a fuse box on the driver's side. 429 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: There may even be a fuse box over on the 430 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: passenger side by the glove box. Again, some switches are 431 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to be disabled, so lights don't stay on, 432 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: So we don't create a draw, get the vehicle to 433 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: go to sleep, take the thermal imager and start scanning 434 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: the vehicle. Does something show temperature more so than the 435 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: item next to it? What I think you're going to 436 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: find and this will be located in the underhood fuse 437 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: box and the other infuse box I believe to the 438 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: right the passenger side front corner is the eight. The 439 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: a C compressor clutch relay is going to be stuck 440 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: on not an uncommon failure the relays. The relays go bad, 441 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: they'll stay stuck on. UM. There's a couple of relays 442 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: because they're all there's four or five relays depending upon 443 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: how the cars optioned out that are the same manufacturer, 444 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: MITSABO or something. It's um uh something uh to that 445 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: extent as far as it sounds, and that relay is 446 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: likely sticking and it will do it intermittently, it won't 447 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: do it all the time, and it'll create that draw. 448 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: So you know, we can we can do this by 449 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: looking at thermal image and heat temperature, or we can 450 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: just try popping a relay out one of the up 451 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: until we find the one. Yep that we actually did 452 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: that or I did that because I brought it home 453 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: the last time and uh we unhooked the as an 454 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: aftermarket remote start with an alarm on it, and we 455 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: actually unhooked that and brought it home fully charged the battery, 456 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: let it sit for five days and it was completely dead. 457 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: So I charged the battery up rand the car for 458 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: an hour and UM the took that air compressed air 459 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: conditioning relay out and actually UM, I switched that because 460 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: it's a normally open switch. So I thought, if I 461 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: could pull out the two of them that are next 462 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: to it that control the fans, the cooling fans for 463 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: the radiator, and I would put it in if it 464 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: is stuck closed, that it would that the family would 465 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: come on. And it did not. So, but I actually 466 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: left that that one out for the last three days, 467 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: the air and the air conditioning one. Left the other 468 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: two for the fan in and uh, this morning it's 469 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: that again. So you know, like I said, there are 470 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: other relays there um that are the same manufacturer. Hence 471 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: the thermal image. The thermal image will show what's hot. 472 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: The only other thing you could do to prove a 473 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: draw is if you have a good digital volt home 474 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: meter a d v O m is, put it in 475 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: record mode and just leave it hooked up, set the 476 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: car up for an am draw test, leave it hooked 477 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: up and walk away. Make sure it's got a fresh 478 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: nine volt battery in it. That that nine volt battery 479 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: should last upwards. I think the numbers seventy two hours, uh, 480 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: seventy two or ninety six hours if you wanted to 481 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: drain a nine volt battery completely. If you put the 482 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: meter in min max mode record most of the meters 483 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: on the market today will not auto turn off. And 484 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: you can come back to it, you know, the next 485 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: day or the day after that and look to see 486 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: what was the max amperage reading. If we see a spike, 487 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: then we we we know we've definitely got a draw issue. 488 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Something is turning on at random, and then we'll have 489 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: to figure out how to go and attack that. We'll 490 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: have to take a look at a wiring diagram and 491 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: maybe um split the car in half, you know, um 492 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: uh in terms of components, try to you know, how 493 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: do we measure from this or that side of it? 494 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: But first let's prove that we've got a drawing that 495 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: we're not chasing something else. Does that make sense? Okay? Um? 496 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Or like I said, get a thermal imager and and 497 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, when you see the draw a cur, you 498 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: know to to look at it live on a meter. 499 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: When you see the draw a cur, you know, let's um, 500 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: let's let's let's do a thermal image and and see 501 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: what we say. UM be mindful too. Odyssees, Yeah, they 502 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: seem to be one of those vehicles that have these 503 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: little compartments and god knows where with lightbulbs. Um glove 504 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: compartments come to mind. Are there any bulbs in the back? Uh? 505 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: In little compartments that when you open them, the lights 506 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: supposed to go on and off. You know, could one 507 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: of those be on? You know? See? The neat thing 508 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: is if we do the record and we see the draw, 509 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: if it's drawing two amps two amps as a bulb, typically, 510 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: if it's drawing ten ams, it's something bigger, you know. 511 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: So the size of the drow will tell us what 512 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: to look for also and help break down what it 513 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: is that we're chasing. So um, you know, we can 514 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: do this with or without a thermal image or an 515 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: image will make it easier. But let's let's attack it 516 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: like I just described to you. All right, certain, let 517 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: me know what happens. You're very welcome. You're very welcome. 518 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero. We're back right after this for 519 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: the best in car Advice Foo zero. Now back to 520 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: run Gone in Wisconsin. N Catillac el Dorado, John, you're 521 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: out with the car doctor. How can I help? Hi? Ron? 522 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call and I pleasure to talk 523 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: with you. Thank you, Catillac Eldorado. It's a beautiful IRN. 524 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: It's what they call Sonora Saddle. My mom bought a 525 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: brand News twenty four thousand dollars at the time, and 526 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: I inherited that car. It's got seventy tho original miles 527 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: on it and it's been an excellent car. It's always 528 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: started up. I've never had any issues here and there. 529 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: I've done different things with the transmission flush and that, 530 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: and currently the radio went and I sent away for 531 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: a different parts of the radio, and that's coming. My 532 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: question to you today, um, is the never had any 533 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: issues of the engine or the transmission. But in that model, 534 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: in that car, is there anything I should be on 535 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: the lookout for a roun? You know? Yes? And no? 536 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: Everything and nothing? John, This is this is this is 537 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: the correct This is an HD for Yes, I believe 538 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: the first year of the U right and and and 539 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: how many miles are on this so you've already gone 540 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: double what the normal lifespan is of the engine on 541 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: this car? Um? Just yeah, just they weren't they weren't great. Uh, 542 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: this this car, this engine was the beginning of the 543 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: downfall of General motors in the eighties. Uh you know this, Yeah, 544 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: it was just it was just a problem from the 545 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: word get from the word go. Um, all kinds of 546 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: weird things happened. But you know the HT forty one D. 547 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: Everybody said the HT stood for hook and tub because 548 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: that's what happened to him so often. Um uh, you 549 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: know it's it's I can tell you stories. I remember 550 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: this engine when it first came out. I was doing 551 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: limousinees and hearses for the other side of the building 552 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: that we were renting at the time, and um it 553 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: was limousine and hearse for the local caddy dealer. And 554 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: I would talk to the dealer text time at the 555 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: time about the limousines and they would tell me stories 556 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: about um, everything from a thirty thousand miles And this 557 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: is an interesting story and that at the thirty thousand 558 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: mile mark, General Motors called for all the intake manifold 559 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: bolts to be retorked. And if you ever took a 560 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: PARTY forty one, you would see that the main bearing 561 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: for the crank support was the center bearing. And what 562 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: would happen is because it was an aluminum It was 563 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: so much aluminum used in that engine, and everything was 564 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: structurally based on everything being tight. Hence the reason GM 565 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: called for the bolts to be retorked. After so many miles. 566 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: When they were retorked, you would pull things back to square. Well, 567 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: what happens when something SAgs over time? It wears that way, right, 568 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: So you you'd retork everything back to square like you're 569 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: supposed to. And the dealer text would tell me that 570 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: the car would get from the service bay to the 571 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: door of the shop and the crank would let go 572 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: and break in half because it just couldn't take. It 573 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: would just become a louder noise, louder noise, and then boom. Um. 574 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: So if you've got seventy thousand miles out of this, brother, 575 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: you did good. Um. Yeah, I've always done regular oil changes. 576 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: I've done to transmission flushes. Same mechanic. Who's my cousin 577 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: who I trust? Sumplicitly, you always say that a good 578 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: mechanic is priceless. Um. I love driving it because it's 579 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: just like driving a boat. And it was, let's face it, 580 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: it was it was Mom's car. Um. You know, it's 581 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: we we go out for right, we think of Mom. 582 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: You can still see Mom behind the wheel, right, yeah, 583 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's the best part of it. 584 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I would tell you not to get too crazy with 585 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, chemicals and and and things like that. I 586 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: would just continue to do what you're doing due diligence, 587 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, just staying on top of it. I definitely 588 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't retort the intake amountifold bolts, no matter how many 589 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: times somebody told me to do that, um, because I 590 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: know the problem that creates. And you know, maybe you'll 591 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: get the one that goes a hundred thousand miles. You 592 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: just might. But it's I can. I can tell you this. 593 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: If the engine does fail, I don't think there's parts 594 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: for it anymore. Uh, you know now? And I say that, 595 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, small block Chevy, some of the other cars, 596 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: some of the other engines, you know, the stuff out 597 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: GM stopped producing those I think back in and they 598 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: did so because they wanted this engine to go away, 599 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: because they knew what a disaster it was. Um. So 600 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: just just just be mindful, all right, sir, Thank you 601 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: very much, run very well. Pleasure talking you too, sir. 602 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: You take good care and have a good rest of 603 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: the day. Zero the car doctors coming back right after this. Hey, 604 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: welcome back the car doctor. Real quick, let's go over 605 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: to Ryan and Michigan. Ryan, what's going on? I got 606 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes. I got a two thousand 607 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: ten forward transit connect man. But as I drive it 608 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: down the road, the door open alarm comes on every 609 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: now and then and it just kind of drives me crazy. Yeah, 610 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: I can understand that. Um, I can understand that. So 611 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, the easiest way, you know what my first 612 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: thought is, you know, do we have a switch that's 613 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: shorted pulling the circuit the ground and turning the light on, 614 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: the easiest way to do this is you know, or 615 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: any of the doors loos? Is this a delivery vehicle? 616 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: Is this a beat up work truck? How fresh and 617 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: clean is this? And how tight? If you know what 618 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying to the doors close right, I've checked the doors. 619 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: Um it is a delivery vehicle. But um it's in 620 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: really good shape other than that, and I give a 621 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: go for a couple of days without it happening left. 622 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: So you know, let's get it into a mechanic and 623 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: let's put a scan tool on it, all right, And 624 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: what we want to go into is we want to 625 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: go into the body or GEM module and we want 626 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: to look at and see those switches should report to 627 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: a module because the module has to know if the 628 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: door is open to turn the light on the dish, right, 629 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: that light just doesn't appear, you know, by magic um. 630 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Let's look at this on a scan tool. Let's look 631 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: at data stream and look at what we're talking about 632 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: data stream for a door module, right, and let's let's 633 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: see does does does it have the ability to report 634 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: door switch status? And does it tell us which switch 635 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: is intermittently showing open? All right? So you know if 636 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: there's what there's three doors on this car, four doors 637 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: on this truck. Four so that you know, you'll probably 638 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: see like a left front, right front, middle, and rear 639 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: um in the pit lift and let's just go for 640 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: a ride. It might have to sit with the mechanic 641 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: for a day or two until he gets it to happen. 642 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: And one of those is going to switch state even 643 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: when the door is closed. Easiest way to go about it, 644 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: so let us know what happens. I'm run any of 645 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. See you