1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: four hour NBA news, this news. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Hello, Chris Haynes, it's so time, Markstein, it's so time. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: This League Uncut is underway and on fire. This should 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: be a good one. Friends, Hello and welcome. Thank you 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: for joining us on another edition of this League Uncut. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Mark Stein and Chris Haynes here with you. We are 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: recording on a Sunday night, and as long as technology cooperates, 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: this will have been posted and published on the same 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Sunday night, because we wanted to get a jump on 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: the week. It's a huge week in the NBA. The 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Draft is in the rearview mirror Friday at six pm 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Eastern Friday, just not even five full days away. At 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: this point, the free agency opens officially legally, of course, 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: we know that there may be a stray conversation or 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: two happening that hasn't supposed to happen, or wasn't supposed 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: to happen by the letter of the NBA law. But 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: that is uh. It was actually two years ago, the 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: one of my first summer on substack. I believe in 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: the reason I even am paying attention to this stuff. 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Sorry to bore you with my truvialities, mister Haynes. But 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: this Sunday was actually today is actually the birthday for 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: my Substack year two. I'm two years my Substack is 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: two years old, so that's why I'm kind of thinking 25 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: in those terms. And I just remember, in my first year, 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: my first summer doing Substack, a very wise league observer 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: gave me this line, which I absolutely love and I've 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: now run into the ground. But it's totally true. When 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the opening bell sounds for free agency at six pm 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: Eastern on June thirtieth, it's not really the opening bell. 31 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: It's a lot closer to the end of free agency 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: than the beginning because the all the big ticket players 33 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: know where they're going or have a pretty good idea. 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: That's just the way it's evolved. And look next year, 35 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: next season, you know, the new CBA drops or the 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: new CBA takes effect basically when free agency starts, and 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: one of the provisions in the new CBA is the 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: day after the finals, teams can start negotiating at least 39 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: with their own free agents right away. And so that 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: means that theoretically we can start having some verbal agreements 41 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: that emerge shortly after the finals. It won't necessarily have 42 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: to wait until June thirtieth. We will start to hear, oh, 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, so and so has reached a verbal agreement 44 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: to sign such and such a deal that won't be 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: executed until after June thirtieth. But because the CBA doesn't 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: go into effect until June thirtieth, last July first, that 47 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: particular rule did not take effect after the finals. We 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: just saw so after the Nuggets win it all in 49 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: five and finish off Miami this season, there was no 50 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: such commencement of negotiating with your own free agents. But 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: that'll be an interesting change next summer that before the draft, 52 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some free agent deals spill out. But look, 53 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: enough of me blabbering. We got a lot to cover. 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Let us start, mister Haynes with 55 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Earlier on this Sunday, I reported that there 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: are strong signals that the Warriors are headed to a 57 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: multi year deal with Draymond Green. The latest projection i'm 58 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: getting it's most likely three years. Look, I don't think 59 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: that's really some surprise. Now that the Warriors have traded 60 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: yours and pool away, they did that in large part 61 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: to give themselves the financial flexibility to resign Draymond Green 62 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: and re signed Klay Thompson in the future to do 63 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: that comfortably. However, the Sacramento Kings, in Chris Haynes's adopted hometown, 64 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: the nine to one six the Kings, they made a 65 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: sneaky little draft night move to dumper Shawn Holmes and 66 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: now they they technically have the ability to create more 67 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: than thirty million in salary cap space, and that has 68 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: led a lot of people to think the Kings would 69 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: go hard after Draymond Green. Do your hometown Kings have 70 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: any chance of recruiting Draymond away from the Warriors? I 71 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: would say no. 72 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: This reminds me and I don't know if it would 73 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: get this far. But back when I was at ESPN, 74 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: so this had to been trying to think the year 75 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: I went was it twenty sixteen, sixteen seven? So one 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: of those years it was sixteen and seventeen I was 77 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: covering the Warriors for ESPN. Did I cover Andre Iglo 78 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: dollars free agency? The Kings went after him hard hard, 79 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: and I did a really in depth story. I was 80 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: pretty I was, I was, I was you know, that 81 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: was That was something that was a story that I 82 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: was proud of going in depth on. If people want 83 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: to get get an understanding of what free agency is like, 84 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: especially when you have multiple suitors and you're taking meetings 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: and you want to hear the pitches and kind of 86 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: the elaborate things that these teams come up with to 87 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: try to entice the player, please go I don't know 88 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: if I want to go. It ain't too often I 89 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: say go back and listen to it. I mean, go 90 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: back and read the story from one about old stumping grounds. 91 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: But if you find yourself doing that, go ahead and 92 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: do it. I don't say that often, but it was 93 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: really good. But the Kings are one of the teams 94 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: that was in on andre Iguadala and they wanted you. 95 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: You know how obviously the vet used to be who 96 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: used to what it used to be minor one of 97 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: the minority owners the Golden State Wars. 98 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, part of the part of the one of the minority. 99 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: We know how he feels about the Warriors. He wants 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: to take them down. He wants to be the team. Uh, 101 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: he wants to be the biggest team the northern part 102 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: of California, And so that was one of the ways. Obviously, 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 2: Igwalla was a very good player still at that time, 104 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: and he wanted I Dollar bad. He wanted the weakend 105 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors team, and he felt like bringing 106 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: on Ingwa Dollar that would play a major part in 107 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: that mission. And so that mission is still ongoing. See 108 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: he got Mike Brown brought over Mike Brown, you know, 109 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: a little by little, And there's no doubt in my 110 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: mind Steinn that if Draymond Green gave them the time, 111 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: or if Draymond went the route of taking meetings, I 112 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: don't know if it to get to that point, but 113 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: if you if you went the route of taking meetings, 114 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: I would think he would give Sacramento a shot and 115 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: the Kams will put all their efforts into trying to 116 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: snag him away. That they would want nothing more than 117 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: try to weakend that Golden State Warriors team. So, but 118 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. I definitely do 119 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: think Draymond Green is resigning. You know, I've heard, you know, 120 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: similar things to what you've reported in your substack. Congratulations 121 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: of two years. But nah, I don't I don't see 122 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't see Draymond exit. Not right now. 123 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, look, one of the highlights. I mean, you know, 124 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we're basically five months old now this podcast, and let's 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: face it, one of the highlights we've had on this 126 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: pod is having Draymond join us, and he said it. 127 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: We talked at length on this pod about how much 128 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: he wants to retire a Warrior, and then when the 129 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Warrior season ended, he really couldn't have said it much clear. 130 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: He was up there at the podium and he said, 131 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: I want to ride out with the guys I rode 132 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: in with. And I also reported today that before Memphis 133 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: traded for Marcus Smart, that I don't know how the 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Grizzlies were going to do it. I don't have the 135 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: salary cap smarts to understand this, but I've had too 136 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: many people I trust tell me that the Grizzlies were 137 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: scheming somehow to make a credible run at Draymond Green. 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: In the checking I've done on the math, even before 139 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: the Marcus Smart trade, I don't think they had cap room. 140 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: I think they only had the full mid level, which 141 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: is twelve point four million. That's not enough to construct 142 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: an offer to get Draymond Green. He's going to get 143 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a healthy, multi year deal wherever he goes. And again, 144 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be Golden State, and 145 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I do think the three year projection is a wise 146 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: place to start. I don't know how Memphis was going 147 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: to do it, but I keep hearing that the Grizzlies 148 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: wanted him, and that's that's just as delicious as the 149 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: thought of Draymond talking to the Kings. Is Draymond talking 150 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Grizzlies after everything those two teams have been together. 151 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: But he was never gonna lack for options. But I 152 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: just whether he came on our pod or not, I 153 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: just I cannot imagine Draymond Green not playing next to 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. 155 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: I can't pike sure. He was never going to have 156 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: a lack of options, because you know, that's always been 157 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: a false narrative about Draymond, is that, well, he's only 158 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: valuable to the Warriors, he wouldn't have the same impact 159 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: on a different team. Yeah, first of all, we don't 160 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: know that. But second of all, Man, there are multiple, 161 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: multiple star players who've been trying behind the scenes for 162 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: years trying to persuade Draymond Green to leave Golden State 163 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: and to partner up with them and lead their defense. 164 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: So that narrative is just false. It comes out of 165 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where it comes from. Draymond has a 166 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: unique skill set. It's probably a skill set that people 167 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: probably don't like, but it's a winning skill set. He 168 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: knows his road, he does it well. He's a perfectionist 169 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: in what he does, and he goes out there and produces, 170 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: He executes, doesn't have an ego when they're talking about 171 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: on the basketball court, So he was going to have 172 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: suitors and the Golden State Warriors. You think about it. 173 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: You know, we've been here over the last couple of 174 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: years especially you know we heard it with during the 175 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: KD era in Golden State's Draymond Green, has you worn 176 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: out as welcome? Are they gonna let Draymond go? We saw, 177 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, with the Jordan Poole incident. Oh this is it. 178 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: You know, everybody was pretty certain that this is going 179 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: to be the last year that Draymond was going to 180 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: be on the team. Look what happened. Jordan Poole was 181 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: was shipped out to Washington and sounds like Draymond Green 182 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: is on the verge of resigning on a multi year deal. 183 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: So that shows you the value not only other teams, 184 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: but the value that Golden State Warriors still have is 185 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: Draymond and the belief that they still have in him, 186 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: that he can still do what he do what he 187 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: does at a high level. 188 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Look, he has his flaws, he has his critics. He's 189 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: been justifiably criticized on the number of occasions. He's a 190 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: polarizing guy. A lot of fans don't like him, some 191 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: opposing players don't like him. But the man is a 192 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: winning basketball player above all. He is a defensive genius. 193 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: But above all, he is a winning basketball player and 194 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: that's why. Look, the Lakers have no way to get him. 195 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: But I'm sure you saw the pictures of Lebron and 196 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Draymond on vacation together. I'm sure the Lakers would love 197 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: they don't have a way to do it. I'm sure 198 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: they would love to get Draymond Green. The team in 199 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: my city, Dallas, I'm sure they would love if there 200 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: was a way to get Raymond Green. But it's not 201 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen. He ain't switching teams. We should talk about 202 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole. I have to you know, I'm a little 203 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: I got to give the Warriors credit here, and you know, 204 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: Mike Dunley the first week on the job as a GM, 205 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I thought it would be much harder to trade Jordan 206 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: Poole in this financial climate, after the struggles he had 207 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That really, to me was the most 208 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: surprising element of the trade that Washington. That's saying. We 209 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: thought Washington was stripping this thing down all the way 210 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and you know, just didn't want any kind of long 211 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: term money. So super interesting that Washington wanted Pool. Now, 212 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: whether that's to keep him, whether that's to maybe look 213 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: to move him down the line, we don't know yet. 214 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, did you did you think the Warriors 215 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: could move Jordan Poole this quickly? 216 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: No, it was. It wasn't on my radar. Jordan wasn't 217 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: on my radar at all. 218 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, me, neither. I mean it was not this. That 219 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: was not the move. 220 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: I now I knew I was. Golden State had interest 221 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: in Chris Paul. I think I brought I brought that 222 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: up on our last part that was before the trade 223 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: went down. I was pretty sold on the fact that 224 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: I think Chris Paul was going to make his way 225 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: to the Clippers. I think when Chris Paul speaks about this. 226 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: I think he'll even say that as well. So I 227 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: knew there was interest, I guess I didn't when I 228 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: heard there was interest, I guess I assumed there was 229 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: interest if Chris Paul was waived. That's the way, That's 230 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: the way I kind of thought about it. I didn't 231 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: know that there was going to be a full on 232 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: trade to acquire Chris Paul Jordan Poole. That completely caught 233 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: me off guard. And then I think for the most part, 234 00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: whoever the thinking was, whoever acquired Chris Paul, wherever, whoever, 235 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: that he was going to be waved and his contract 236 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: was not going to be guaranteed. And then we're seen 237 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: that when Chris Paul was traded to Washington, got what 238 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: about about nine to ten million more added to his salary, 239 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, due to that trade. And you know, I 240 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: spoke to people over the Warriors. They are not waiving 241 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Chris Paul. He is a Golden State war remember the 242 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. That's crazy to say that he will 243 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: be playing with Stephen Curry, Draymond, Greg Klay, Thompson, and Stein. Shocking, shocking, 244 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: probably probably most shocking. 245 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Look, I cannot I cannot wait to see it. I 246 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. I mean, it makes complete 247 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: financial sense what the Warriors have done here to move 248 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Pool out, they had to get they had to shed 249 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: one significant contract at least. And after the season we 250 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: just witnessed. You knew that if they had a choice, 251 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: it would be Jordan Poole. I just didn't think they 252 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: would have the choice. But the trade became available, they 253 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: made it. They've shed Jordan Poole's contract. It makes things. 254 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: They've got flexibility now going forward because Chris Paul only 255 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: has the one guaranteed year left on his deal, even 256 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: if he gets the full thirty point eight million. And look, 257 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Chris Paul himself is a basketball genius. He is still 258 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: a highly productive player, too smart and too good to 259 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: joining a team full of very smart players. They're all 260 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: two whys and they've all been around the block. They 261 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: should figure this out. And that's what common sense tells you. 262 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: But like you just hinted at it, just I can't 263 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: see it. And that clip, I'm sure you've seen it. 264 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: It's been making the rounds all weekend. Draymond Green appearing 265 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: on Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes's podcast on showtime. Hey, 266 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, here's what he says. 267 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: I don't like CP at all, Like we don't have 268 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: a good relationship at all. But I respect his hustle 269 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: and I respect his I Q he's smart as hell. 270 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: So how is that? How is that gonna go? 271 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: How is that gonna I know they've talked. I know, 272 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: I know Chris Paul have talked to Stephan Curry. He 273 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: talked to Draymond. One thing about this is this is 274 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: this is I'm gonna tell you about Draymond Starn And 275 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: I know from experience and I know from close up 276 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: and personal just you know, working the sidelines for T 277 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: and T. In the heat of the moment, Draymond will 278 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: say pretty much whatever. In the heat of the moment. 279 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: Draymond's filter, there's no filter. The filter disappears in the 280 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: heat of the moment. But then with these subside and everything, 281 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, he booves on, He moves on, you know, 282 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: being him, has some has some disagreements, you know, my 283 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: time covering the Warriors and we you know, he's had 284 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: some things to me and I've said some things, and 285 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: and he kept it moving. He kept it moving. We 286 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: all keep it moving. And so that's one thing I 287 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: respect about him, so as h so as as egregious 288 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: as that might have that clip might have sounded Draymond 289 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: those remarks he had about Chris Paul. You know, Draymond 290 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: is somebody that I know that that's moved forward and 291 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 2: it's looking forward to potentially looking forward to potentially teaming 292 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: up with CP and doing you know, doing some making 293 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: some magic happen. I will say that, you know, the 294 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: Chris Paul Stephen Curry dynamic that that is, you know, 295 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: that's something I'm looking forward to seeing. I know they 296 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: I know they talked, know they had a good conversation, 297 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: but you know, I want to see that. 298 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: The way they've already connected, they've already connected. Even that 299 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: is the list trying to imagine that. I mean, Chris 300 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Foulow is a constant, He's been a constant opponent throughout 301 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: these eight nine years of Warriors glory. 302 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing about it, the Clippers were supposed 303 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: to remember, the Clippers was the team that was supposed 304 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: to be on that rise. Then the Golden State Warriors 305 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: came in there and shook up the Western Conference and 306 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: took it over and never really gave it up except 307 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: for a few windows due to injuries. But you know 308 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: it was supposed to be the Clippers run, and so 309 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna you know, it's gonna be interesting. I like it. 310 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: That's why I like sports, man. I like because stein 311 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: I play, you know, I'm just equated to my own 312 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: little pickup experience. Thus far. There's guys that when I go, 313 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: when I'm playing against them, man, I want to kill them. Start, 314 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: I want to crush them. I look forward to going 315 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: up against them because sometimes they get the best of 316 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: me sometimes and a lot of times I should say 317 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: I get the best of them. But then there are 318 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: sometimes where we have to team up and I'm like, 319 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: you know what, I would rather go against you, but 320 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: there is a mutual respect I have for you. Let's 321 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: go out there and get it done. And we go 322 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 2: out there and we play. And so I like. I 323 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: like this dynamic of being foes for so long, rivals 324 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: for so long, then coming together, putting out all behind 325 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: you and knowing that you know, there's mutual respect between 326 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: both sides. Now let's go out there and see what 327 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: we can accomplish together. And I like, I like seeing 328 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: that that can happen. 329 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: How crazy, How crazy would it be if Chris Paul 330 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: finally wins that elusive ring. But it's as a warrior. Yeah, 331 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: it's just like I said, you just say that out loud, 332 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: and it's just loud. 333 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean it is, and I know some people. Look, 334 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole I 335 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: was about, you know, because then people you got people 336 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: that were saying, well, he had to do it this way, 337 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: he had to do well. It ain't like he picked 338 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: the wars. He was traded to the wars. Yeah, oh yeah, 339 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean people people, yeah, like that's he was traded there. 340 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: They want they want him, and so they feel like 341 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: they need him or else they wouldn't have they wouldn't 342 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: have done that. So you know, we'll know, we'll No, 343 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm definitely hey, 344 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: I'll bet more Golden State Warrior games for sure. No. 345 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you. I mean, obviously you 346 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: don't know your schedule for October, but if you were 347 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: guessing first day of training camp, I mean, you gotta 348 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: go to Golden State, right, you gotta see you gotta 349 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: see this with your own eyes. I know you'd rather 350 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: go to the Kings because it's a it's a short 351 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: drive away from Charlene's beauty supply, but you might you 352 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: might have to go to you might have to go 353 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to Golden State because one of the first questions to 354 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: me is who kind of referee? Is this on the 355 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: players to put it all behind them? Is this Steve 356 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: Kerr has to get all these guys in this on 357 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: the same thing. 358 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: I think he's players. 359 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Kind of think the players are. 360 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: Players, and I think most of those talks have been had, 361 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: and I think most of it is in the rear 362 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: view already. I think they're focused on the task at hand. 363 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: And to answer your questions Stein about where I would 364 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: be for media Day, I don't know if it's on. 365 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: I was on the you know, I did the Lakers 366 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: last year, and for the most part, they kept me 367 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: on the Western Conference, which I'm ecstatic about. That's fine, 368 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: didn't have to travel too far. But Bron still resonates, 369 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't. I believe, you know, Bron's gonna 370 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: come back and play next year, but he still hasn't 371 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: came out and said anything himself on if he's coming 372 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: back or when he's coming back. You know, he left 373 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: it kind of vague out there. You know, he told 374 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 2: me he doesn't know if he's going to be I'm 375 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: going back what he got eliminated. Told me he doesn't 376 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: know if he's going to be there and start a 377 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: training camp. So that's the storyline. Go to State's the storyline. 378 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where I would be. 379 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: The Kings are a storyline too. I mean, they've got 380 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: you know they're going to do I like I like 381 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I said, Draymond Green is staying with the Warriors based 382 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: on everything I've been told. But the Kings are going 383 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: to do something with that salary cap space, and they will. 384 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: They will certainly extend Domana Sabonis. I think that's a 385 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: big part of why they needed to create that extra room. 386 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: But they are going to make upgrades they do. You know, 387 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: they don't want to make this a one time playoff thing. 388 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: So I think the Kings are going to do something. 389 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: You had mentioned that you know, you had been hearing 390 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: for days really that the Clippers had a real chance 391 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: to trade for Chris Paul. And as I've reported once 392 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: or twice, you know, the Lakers were really hoping that 393 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Chris Paul would be waived and make it to unrestricted 394 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: free agency so they could have a shot at him. 395 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Who do you think it hurts more the Lakers or 396 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: the Clippers that he ends up Chris Paul ends up 397 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: with the war neither team was expecting. 398 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: I think it's it hurts the Clippers more because I 399 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: believe the Clippers felt like they had the best shot 400 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: to get them and I and I can say, and 401 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to speak for Chris Paul 402 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: and I wait to eat, you know, till he addresses it. 403 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: But you know, I think he probably believed that he 404 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: was going to be a member of the Clippers. So 405 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: with that being said, the Clippers felt like they needed 406 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: needed a floor general, neither real floor general to kind 407 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: of manage things over there with that roster. I was 408 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, even you know, even though I 409 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: was under the assumption that I thought Cep would end 410 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: up with the Clippers, I was still kind of questioning, 411 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, can Cep and Russ? Would that work? You 412 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: know that so right now they don't have to worry 413 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: about that problem anymore. But yeah, I think I didn't. 414 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: I think it hurts the Clippers more because I think 415 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: they were probably a little bit more invested in trying 416 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: to get to get him any other team, but we 417 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: saw the war is a lot more and probably a 418 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: lot more invested, even the Clippers. 419 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: And look it is. You know, I think the misread 420 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: for me and probably other teams out there was Chris 421 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Paul did have trade value. You know, there was an 422 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: assumption that when Washington took him on in the original 423 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal trade, that they would waive him before June thirtieth. 424 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: But they did, as you already noted, they had to 425 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: increase the value of the guarantee on Chris's contract initially 426 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: had he just been in Phoenix. The original plan from 427 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: the Suns, and yes, people, this was the original plan. 428 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it again. This was the message 429 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: from the Suns to Chris Paul and his camp. We 430 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: are going to waive you. The part that wasn't transmitted 431 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: clearly was we're going to win if we don't trade you. 432 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: Had the Suns been unable to trade Chris Paul, they 433 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: would have waived him on June twenty eighth, and they 434 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: would have gotten out of next season's thirty point eight 435 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: million at only fifteen point eight million. But there was 436 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: more of a trade market for Chris Paul than even 437 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: the Suns realized. The Wizards clearly had no intention of 438 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: waving Chris Paul. They were confident that they could turn 439 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: around and do something with his contract. And the Wizards 440 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: have been proven. The Wizards have been getting a lot 441 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: of criticism for what they got for Beal, what they 442 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: did in you know, turning Chris Paul around. What they 443 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: got for perzingis you know, they didn't get first round picks, 444 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: and either the deal for Bal or perzingis So the 445 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: Wizards have been taking a lot of criticism, but you 446 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: know what, the Wizards proved that they were able to 447 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: move Chris Paul and they've been super active. And I 448 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: don't think the Wizards are done. So he was never 449 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: now we can say we didn't know it maybe a 450 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: week ago or ten days ago, but the Lakers were 451 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: never really gonna have a chance at Chris Paul because 452 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: he was gonna get he was gonna get traded, and 453 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: his contract was more moveable than initially thought. And the 454 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Warriors will zoom right to the top, maybe not undisputed 455 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: number one, but they will be right up there with 456 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Spurs are there with Wemby, and 457 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure we could list other teams, teams that are 458 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: in that are generating the highest level of intrigue at 459 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the start of the season. We can make a list. 460 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: But the Warriors will be in the top five. If 461 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: you've got Chris Paul in that locker room, they will 462 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: be in the top star. 463 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: What about Santonio? You don't think I'll be media danced 464 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: with the Spurs. 465 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose it's possible, but no, I think actually, 466 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get said. I think you're I think you're 467 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: gonna be in Golden State. 468 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, think you about right. We'll see go to State 469 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: of the Lakers. 470 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: For you. It's gonna be Lakers or Warriors. Let's be honest. 471 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: No, you would get no complaints from me, No grtes 472 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: for me. Easy trip. 473 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: What you don't want to go to San Antonio? 474 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: I would say I like Sanatorio probably more than most people. 475 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: You know. I think people when they think of Texas, 476 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: they think of Dallas and Houston for the most part. 477 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: I would probably put San Antonio above Houston for me. 478 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Dallas san Antonio being Houston in that order 479 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: for me. 480 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: A preference I absolutely love San Antonio. It was one 481 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: of the first stops on my first trip as an 482 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: NBA writer, way way way way back in the second 483 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: half of the nineteen ninety three ninety four season, covering 484 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers for the La Daily News. San Antonio was 485 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: not the first stop, but it was on that first trip, 486 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it was. I just felt 487 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: so at home there. I loved it. I've never lived 488 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: in San Antonio. I've obviously lived in Dallas for a 489 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: quarter century now, but I love it in San Antonio. 490 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: Love visiting always felt incredibly welcome, so for my purely 491 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: selfish traveling purposes, because remember, remember, people, sports writers, we 492 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: root for hotels and restaurants, not. 493 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: To hotales and restaurants. And one more in Miami. You 494 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: and in Miami. 495 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean I love Miami too, but after March, that 496 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: humidity is no joke. Up till March, I am good. 497 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: October to March I am good. But uh yeah, so 498 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. I am not heartbroken that Victor wemen Yama 499 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: ended up in the Alamo City, a short one hour 500 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: flight away for me, and I hope that means that 501 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I will be making many more frequent trips to San 502 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: Antonio my Feld. I mean, I'm such a I'm such 503 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: a San Antonio nerd that I went to the I 504 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: went to the game in the Alamodome this season just 505 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: because I could not bear to miss it. The Spurs 506 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: were playing in the Albumodome when I started, I could 507 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: not miss it, and it was it was a very 508 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: very weird and nostalgic trip back to that. 509 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: Jim Stein, one thing I want to say before we 510 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: transition to the next topic. We was talking about the Kings, 511 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: the cap space they have. Now we kind of dismissed 512 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: Dremond going there. What about another name? Just throw a 513 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: possibility out there, Stinn, let's just talk. Nope, aggregators, I'm 514 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: not reporting anything. I'm just throwing a name out there. 515 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: What do you think about Kyle Kuzma? Stein? 516 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: The Kings have been linked to Kyle Kuzma for many, 517 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: many eons, and I personally am quite a Kyle Kuzma fan. However, 518 00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Mike Brown, former guest on this podcast, neighbor in the 519 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: nine to one six, Mike Brown, look, I know the 520 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Kings had this world record offense this season. I ain't 521 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: buying it. Mike Brown is still a defense first coach, 522 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: and so I just wonder he's already got some bonus. 523 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma is not known as a defense first player, 524 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: so would Mike Brown. Is that the sort of player 525 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Mike Brown is looking to add? Don't aggregate me either, 526 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: because this is purely my observation what I see, what 527 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: I read. But that would be my question. And like 528 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I said, I am I am a huge Kyle Kuzma fan. 529 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: I think he's an underrated player. I mean, he was 530 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: a ridiculous bargain at thirteen million. He's obviously opting out 531 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: of that to become a free agent now, so let's see. 532 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: But I mean, you, what do you think You're closer 533 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: to the Kings than me, and you're closer to Mike 534 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Brown than me? 535 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: I think. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't 536 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: heard anything. I'm just throwing it out there. It could 537 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 2: it could make sense. But STEI, you know, Mike Brown 538 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: has changed. He's going through a bit of a transformation period. 539 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: He's now an offensive genius coach. 540 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: That's what people say. But like I said, I ain't buying. 541 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: That was actually one of the questions I wanted to 542 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: ask him when we had Mike on the first time, 543 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: but we were throwing so many things at him we 544 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: ran out of time. I really want to ask him 545 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: how comfortable he is with this label that he is 546 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: now a supposed offense first coach, because I ain't buying 547 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: it that he's good with that. I'm just not. 548 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there. I want 549 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: to see what see what the no. 550 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a worthy question because if I 551 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm if I am correct that, uh, 552 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, Raymond Green is essentially off the market, which again, 553 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: those are all the signals I'm getting Sacramento's going to 554 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: turn their attention to someone. Is that bringing back Harrison 555 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Barnes or is that going outside the organization to pursue 556 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: a Kyle Kuzma or someone else. So we'll get our 557 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: answers here shortly. But I do not think you're alone 558 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: in asking about Kyle Kuzma and Sacramento. Same question pertains 559 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: to Kyle Kuzma and Indiana the Pacers. They have a 560 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: need at that position. I've written about how they have 561 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: interested in Harrison Barnes. The Pacers have two huge Harrison 562 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Barnes fans in that organization. With Tyreez Halliburton, of course, 563 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: his former King's teammate, and Rick Carlisle Barnes, former Mavericks coach. 564 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: But Kyle Kuzma's another name that's come up in Indiana. 565 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: So the Wizards, they've cleared Bell out, they've cleared Porzingis out. 566 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: Are they going to participate in a sign and trade 567 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: with Kyle or just lose him out? 568 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: Right? 569 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: There's a you are wise to bring him up because 570 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions pertaining to Kyle Kuzma 571 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: that we don't quite have the answers for. I'm gonna 572 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: ask you now about James Harden. The noise continue used 573 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: to rise, the rumbles get louder that he's now staying 574 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: in Philly. There's a lot of momentum behind that idea. 575 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: From your seat, what do you think do the Rockets 576 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: still have a chance to steal James Harden to lure 577 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: him back to his beloved Houston? Do the Rockets even 578 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: want that? 579 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: This is a hard one to gauge for me right now, 580 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: because it keeps changing. If you would have asked me, 581 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: I don't know a month ago, I would have probably 582 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: said with confidence that I believe these Leanatorius going back 583 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: to Houston. I haven't heard that over the last few weeks. 584 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Ah it's June twenty fifth as we record this right now. 585 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: If you're asking me, hey, I'm saying it sounds like 586 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: he's staying in Philly. Sounds like that's what's going to happen. 587 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: You know, think about think about last year starning, Think 588 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: about last summer when let me see, he opted out, 589 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: He opted out of his contract. He took less to 590 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: bring on, to be able to bring on PJ. Tucker, 591 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: Daniel House leaves somebody else. Then midway during the season, 592 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: we start hearing Houston reunion rumors. I'm like, hold on, 593 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: he took a major pay cut to help build the team, 594 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: and you know, we thought with the hopes of him 595 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: getting more on the back end next summer, and now 596 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: he's gonna leave and just go. And so it was. 597 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: It was weird. It was weird time timing and it 598 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: was just weird. Just think about him going back, because 599 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, Houston had some nice young players that they're 600 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: trying to build up. But we know that the owner 601 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: over there, Tillman, he he wants to win. And so 602 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: Philly is what I'm Philly is what I'm hearing right now. 603 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm not real confident in that because I think things 604 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: can change, but if you're asking me right now, that's 605 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: what I will say. 606 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it sounds like the max is not on 607 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: the table in either case. At least that is the 608 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: latest rumble we'll see. I mean there's been, like you said, 609 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: there's been James Harden chatter for literally six months, maybe 610 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: even longer, so there's a lot to sift through. I mean, 611 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: the latest thing I heard was that he came out 612 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: of his meeting with Nick Nurse, the new Philly coach, 613 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: intrigued by what Nick Nurse had to say. But yeah, 614 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: definitely the leanings. I think if you pulled thirty front offices, 615 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: more than not would say that they expect James Harden 616 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: to stay in Philly. But yeah, could be a long week, 617 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: could be some changes there. You reported earlier on this 618 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: Sunday that the Suns have now decided, Okay, we're gonna 619 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: move forward and try to make the DeAndre ayten thing work. 620 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: And I definitely do see that as a new development 621 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: on this Sunday, because I reported this in my Sunday notebook, 622 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I was told strenuously that as recently as Thursday night. 623 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: On Draft Night, the Suns very much did explore trade 624 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: possibilities for Aight and so as of Thursday night, they 625 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: were still looking for potential trade partners for Aighton. But 626 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: they've been scouring the market. They're not getting anywhere close 627 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: to the offers that they want. By all accounts, the 628 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: offers that they've been presented with don't include future firsts. 629 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: So and look, let's be on Frank Vogel really wants 630 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 1: to coach this guy. Frank Vogel teams have always had 631 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: a rim protecting center, and Vogel has spoken very openly 632 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: about how much he wants the chance to get DeAndre 633 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Ayton to an all star level. 634 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: So Ayden wants to be Yeah, Ayton wants to be 635 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: in a situation where he feels his coach has is back. 636 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: That's just that's just was It's something he felt prior. 637 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: And we'll see because look, I mean, the case for 638 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: trading Ayton is obviously if the Suns break his contract 639 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: up into two or three pieces, that's one way they 640 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: get some depth. Because they don't just need depth. They 641 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: don't just need bodies, but they do need wings and 642 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: shooting and more rebounding. So it's like that there is 643 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: a case to be made that if the right deal 644 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: presents itself, turning one long term deal into a couple 645 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: contracts that are shorter, that could really work for Phoenix, 646 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: because I mean, look, their main three going forward are Durant, Booker, 647 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: and Beale. I think Ayton is very distinctly number four 648 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: on that list, and I think he knows it. So 649 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: as much as Frank Vogel wants to coach him and 650 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: is trying to pump him up, I don't think there's 651 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna be any fooling DeAndre Ayton about that reality. 652 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: And one thing, I just want to make sure that 653 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: DeAndre Ayton is not untouchable. If the Sun's got a 654 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: deal in their future or later down the road that 655 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: they felt like they couldn't refuse, he would be traded. 656 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: That's just what it is right now. But the intel 657 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: that I gattered this morning was that they're moving forward 658 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: with the plan that he will be their opening day 659 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: start and seer. 660 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, if the offers are no good, they've got to 661 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: try to make it work. But you know, again, I 662 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: think I want to underline as recently as Thursday night, 663 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: based on what I've been told, they were actively looking 664 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: for potential trades. So let's not omit that very important clarification, 665 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: all right, last thing probably the topic everybody's been wanting 666 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: us to get to, but I don't know that there's 667 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: really a whole lot new since Draft night. As the 668 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: world's foremost damologist, what do you foresee? Is there anything 669 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: this week that happens on the Damian Lillard front or 670 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: does he? Does he give this thing a chance to see? 671 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: You know, let free agency play out, Let summer league go. 672 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: Let us get our first look at Scoot Henderson in 673 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: summer league? Is this a later in July kind of conversation? 674 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: What does what does Chris Haynes foresee? 675 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: Here? So Damian Liller is expected to meet with general 676 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: manager Joe cronin this week. There hasn't been There has 677 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: not been a date scheduled yet for that meeting. So 678 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: as soon as we get word of that, everybody else 679 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: will be informed of that. How that meeting goes, I 680 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: don't know, But what I do know is Blairs want 681 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: to get in front of Damian lillar it kind of 682 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: explain their approach, go through some of the targets that 683 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 2: they're trying to lock in on going into free and 684 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 2: see explain the vision the draft plans. Because I reported 685 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: this on draft day, Stile that Dame had not communicated 686 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 2: with the Portland trail Blazers in recent days and that 687 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: is unusual style. I wanted to cut Dame's in Paris. 688 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: And I know people that probably don't like hearing real news. 689 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: They may say, well, he's in Paris. Of course he's 690 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: not going to hear. No, you talked to your I 691 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: was talking to Dame in Paris. You know, you can 692 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: get in touch with them. You can get in touch 693 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 2: with anybody while they're out of the country. And Dame 694 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: was watching the draft, very important pick number three pick 695 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 2: for the Portland trail Visers. So and Joe Cronin confirmed 696 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: that the last time he spoke to Dame was Tuesday, 697 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: which was two days before, but since then it's been 698 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: just communication with his agent, Aaron Goodwin. So this will 699 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: be the first time that he whenever this meeting is, 700 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: this will be the first time that he was going 701 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: to be able to sit in front of Joe Cronin 702 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: and talk talk things out. I don't know how this 703 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: is going to go. I don't know what Dame is 704 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: going to say. I don't know what he's going to 705 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 2: try to get done, but it hasn't changed. And the 706 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: the explanation, as far as what I got on why 707 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: Dame hasn't didn't communicate with the Blazers, I was just 708 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: told that, you know, he's just trying to disconnect from 709 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 2: everything for a little while. Take that for whatever's worth, 710 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: however you want to take that. So that's what's that's 711 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: that's just what we're happening. I guess we just got 712 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 2: to wait to see how this meeting goes. 713 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't sit here and say that I am 714 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: as curious as Damian Lillard about those Portland plans. But 715 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: I'm pretty darn curious too, because we know it's been 716 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: well chronicled that they want to bring back Jeremy Grant. 717 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: But beyond that, what else? What else is there? Or 718 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: is this is this all about scoot going forward? A 719 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: lot of questions, a lot of questions. 720 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing. One thing hasn't changed. He 721 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: wants to win now, now, he wants to roster improve now. 722 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: Nothing has changed, nothing at all. So you know it's 723 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 2: going to be it's going to be riveting to see 724 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: how this how that meeting I posed? 725 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: All right, well, I know when that meeting happens, you 726 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: will be all over it. So I'm going to defer 727 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: further comment until that meeting, and maybe hopefully that meeting 728 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: happens before the next pod so we can react to it. 729 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: We are going to close with a trivia question Chris 730 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: Paul Chris Haynes. Chris Paul has played twelve hundred and 731 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: fourteen regular season games and one hundred and forty nine 732 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: playoff games. How many times has he come off the bench? 733 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: Whoo? I'm going to say zero, and. 734 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: You win the prize of nothing. You do, win the prize. 735 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: You are correct. He has never come off the bench, 736 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: yet another layer of this amazing Chris Paul to the 737 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: Bay Area Story. Cannot wait to see how it turns out. 738 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: All right, guys, I think we covered a pretty good 739 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: on this aditial. 740 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: Thing to say, hold on, got losh, so you get 741 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: put lower lower expectations, lower expectations if not one of those. 742 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: I just want to say this at the end our 743 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: next pot, which we're doing on Tuesday, that's going to 744 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: be a live pot at me and my wife's store, 745 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: Charlie's Goodly Supply Store elk Grove, California, Sacramento area. We're 746 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: doing a live pot where it's gonna be fans and 747 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: attendance and our guests will be Sacramento Kings Guard Davion 748 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: Mitchell this Tuesday, June twenty seven, and I want to 749 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: urge you because this pot is dropping in time for 750 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: you guys that's in the Sacramento area to go to 751 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: Charlotte's Beauty Supply Store open from ten to six, buy 752 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: you a ticket to be in attendance. We got forty 753 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: seats available, a little bit less than that now, but 754 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 2: come in. The tickets will be fifty dollars. Get you 755 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: in there. You can have a chance to engage. I'll 756 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: have a little interaction segment for the fans with Devon 757 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 2: after the pod, but come in and just check out 758 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 2: live pod. I did not have enough money to fund 759 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: to be able to fly Steyn from Dallas to Sacramento, 760 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: but he will be there on on the pod, so 761 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: you still will hear him, you still will see him. 762 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: Will have a nice setup at the store. I got 763 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: a big eighty four inch screen TV in the store. 764 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: We kind of check us all out so please definitely 765 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: for all our loyal listeners, please tune in for that. 766 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: But s importantly, I want you guys to come out 767 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: in sacrament Area. Come out, get a ticket and be 768 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 2: a part of the audience. And if you still can't 769 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: get a ticket, we'll still encourage you to come in. 770 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: You know, you can hang outside the store. We'll have speakers, 771 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: have a DJ. Stein. You missing out on everything, Stan. 772 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 1: I know, and it's not your fault, it's my fault. 773 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: I I just physically cannot get there on Tuesday for 774 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: reasons that I'm not going to bore everyone with. But 775 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: this is big news because this is the first live 776 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: show in show history and it will be as Chris 777 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: said at Charlene's Beauty Supply in Elk Grove, California, Chris 778 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: Haynes and daveon Mitchell Live, the has been Stein check 779 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: it in from Afar and it is it is. Let's 780 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: just put it like this. It will not be the last. 781 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: It will not be the last live show of the 782 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three off season. It will be the first 783 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: in history and not the last. That's the most we 784 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: can say at this point. But it is our not 785 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: so clever way of saying that we have further surprises 786 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: plan for you. But that'll be that'll be quite a 787 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: thing to see you and daveon together talking hoop, talking 788 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: about the Kings, talking about maybe maybe he knows what 789 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: maybe he knows what Mike Brown wants to and the 790 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: front office want to do with that free agent cash. 791 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll break the news to us. 792 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 2: Let's hope. So but Avion, he's one of the best 793 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 2: defenders in the league, one of the most strongest guards 794 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: we have in the league. So I'm sure he has 795 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot of stories that he can tell. And let's 796 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: see what we can ask him what players he's looking 797 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: to try to pick up in the off season. So 798 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 2: all that more so, please y'all, if you're the sacrament area, 799 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: please come out, come get a ticket. Tickets are running low, 800 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: seats are limited. Please come get a ticket, Come check 801 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: it out. That's all I want to stay STI I'm no, 802 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 2: that's good. 803 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: No, I was gonna no, that was good, and I 804 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: was gonna I mean, we weren't going to admit that part. 805 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't like rushing you off the line. That is 806 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: a huge development for our humble little show. So please everyone, 807 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: please rate review and subscribe to This League Uncut via 808 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your pods, and remember 809 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: just for your calendar Tuesday afternoon and we'll put that 810 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: episode out asap Tuesday afternoon. Davion Mitchell on This League Uncut, 811 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: and we do hope that the planets align and we 812 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: can get in at least one more pod before free 813 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: agency starts Friday at six pm Eastern Time, June thirtieth. 814 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: Summer League is around the corner, Free agency almost here. 815 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: Lots going on, tons to talk about, and like I said, 816 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: I think we've covered be a very good amount of 817 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: ground tonight. Everybody, Thanks for being with us. Back with 818 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: you in just a couple of days and that'll do 819 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: it for us. See you next time. This League Uncut 820 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: it is and iHeartRadio production. 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