WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 21: Ty Law 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.680 It's time for another episode of Patch from the Past, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.600 Matt Smith alongside with Brian Mori, and we're pleased to 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.640 be joined by our first ever demo repeat guest. And 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.279 who better to have, especially this time of year, than 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.360 number twenty four in your program, but number one in 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.960 our hearts, Ty Law Hall of Fame, Ty Law. Ty 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.639 how you doing, man, I'm good, Man good. Thanks for 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.400 having me repeat, first repeat, best repeat. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.040 Yeah. See that's what I'm talking about, man, see happy, happy, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.760 happy to be here for the second time. Yeah. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.919 So it's setting the bar higher time. Get it right. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:44.200 So let's remind people Tye very importantly what Ty Law 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.000 is doing for those of you. This is a podcast, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.080 so it's audio, but we have the pleasure of looking 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.880 at Ty at his home and he's a smart businessman 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.319 because product placement, as he knows, is very important. Let 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.840 everybody know what you're doing these days. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.840 Ty Well. Right now, I'm a partner and owner of 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.040 the v One brand small batch premium vodka and we 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.479 are the official vodka the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.959 So this is my passion right now, pride and joy. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.319 So I'm happy about it, happy about the direction that 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.080 we're going but you know, guys, this is the cleanest, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.200 smoothest vodka that you ever taste. I promise, And I 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.760 like to challenge everybody for a taste test because every 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.200 time I line it up and not tell anybody what 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.679 it is, and I'll put a couple of different vodkas 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.920 taste it. I am one undefeated now, and I know 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.679 it's gonna come a time where somebody just gonna like 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.880 somebody something different. That's why I kind of want to quit. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.479 But right now I'm I'm well over thirty taste tests 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.600 and one every last one of them. So I'm excited 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:44.240 about it, man. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.360 And I can I can share that I've given it 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.440 to a couple of people and cleanest, smoothest vodka. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:50.760 That they never had. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.000 Full disclaimer, Brian, we are both fans of the product, 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.600 would you say? Yeah, definitely and tight it's been. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:59.920 He hasn't offer me money to endorse it though. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.800 It's been about a year, ty since you've been in this. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:04.360 Is that right? 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.480 Yes, yes, it's been about a year. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.000 How's it going? Do you like it? 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.359 I mean it's going good. I mean we were supposed 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.720 to really kick off a lot of things last year, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.840 you know, being uh introduced as the official Boka for 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.960 the Hall of Fame. But unfortunately for everyone, you know, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.200 in every industry, you know, the pandemic and COVID it 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.160 hit us all. But uh, you know, we're still been moving, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.720 uh uh in a pretty good pace. We got picked 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.560 up in Florida this month, so we're going to be 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.080 launching in Florida. We're in Michigan, throughout New England, New Jersey. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.640 We're gonna be launching soon in New Jersey. So uh, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.520 you know, you take it, you know, one customer at 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.600 a time and just keep spreading the word and hopefully 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.840 you know, everyone enjoys as much as I do. But 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.160 I really believe in the product. And you know, I 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.280 was fortunate enough to uh sell my other business, you know, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.040 launch Trampoline Park prior to the pandemic, and uh you 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.240 know that that that was a blessing in itself because 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.720 I wanted to put all my energy into v one. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.920 What I tell you what, you must say some prayer 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.720 at night for that piece of good luck. In all seriousness, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.440 I mean, I know you and I talked about something 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.520 different in people saying wow, what a master stroke, brilliant 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.000 business move by Todd Tye. But you know that that 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.760 had a little bit of good fortune in it as well, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.040 didn't it Absolutely? 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.360 Absolutely, You don't take anything, you know for granted. It 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.320 was something that has been in the makings for a 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.000 few months, you know, because you know, I wanted to 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.079 go in a different direction. I mean, I'm a strong 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.880 advocate for lunch. You know, that was that was my 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.920 first baby, my first four rate into business. But you know, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.280 I knew it was a means to an end and 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.000 I just wanted to do something different. But it was 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.400 a stroke of luck that I was able to, you know, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.720 close you know, that deal prior to the pandemic, because 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.360 I can guarantee that it wouldn't happen just because of 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.800 the unknown. Now we're starting to pick back up and 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.040 Launch is moving forward again, and you know, at at 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.720 a slower pace. But like I said, I'm still a 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.520 huge advocate. I'm a huge fan of Launch and hopefully 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.040 launching every other bit that's out there recover from this 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.880 pandemic because it's hit everybody hard. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.280 To get hit hard, ty you know, we got the 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.800 Hall of Fame voting coming up, the Pro Bowl. There's 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.560 no Pro Bowl this year, but you know, we had 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.160 some guys that are selected, and I guess they just 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.039 send the jerseys now so for this year because there's 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.719 no actual game. But do you remember going to a 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.560 Pro Bowl and winning MVP and then what was that 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.799 experience like for you? 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.680 Oh? I mean it was awesome, It was funny. I 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.080 was just talking to Keishawn Johnson on his show this morning. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.880 We talked about because we share the m v P, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.520 but we ain't had no damn we're supposed to split 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.520 the car least down the middlee We had a car 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.320 sponsor every year before, and when we got the m 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.800 v P, no car sponsor. The car sponsor got picked 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.120 back up. So it was obviously a conspiracy against myself 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:51.600 a Keyshawn because we ain't get no car trophy and 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.800 we got a damn plaque and now I didn't get it. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.440 It's on the wall. But I could have used the 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.320 car at that time a lot more, you know. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.760 All Right, little trivia question for people who might not 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:07.360 know Ty the team that lost the AFC Championship back 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.960 in those days, that was the coach of the Pro Bowl. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.520 So the coach of the Pro Bowl for your for 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.440 you was supposed to be Bill Parcells. Who coached the 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.440 ninety eight Pro Bowl team. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.159 Ninety eight Pro Bowl the year that you were MVP. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.200 I'm gonna guess it was Bill Parcells assistant. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.000 It was Bill. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.800 It was Bill Belichick who was the coach of the 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:28.919 ninety eight team. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.240 Se Ye, I didn't know that. I didn't know that 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.200 because once you get over there, Look, I gotta be honest. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.520 Half the time, you know, even though we played real 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.000 football and it wasn't flag football like it is now, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.400 you know, you kind of lose track of days being 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.640 down there at the I Hill Hountie and you know, 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.280 getting a couple of drinks because you you know, we're 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.440 playing football, but we're on vacation at the same time. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.480 So it's some of that stuff was a hey as 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.800 a cloud, you know, because they got like, you know, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.400 Peyton Manning feeding you my ties all day that. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.800 I mean, that was information, right, And the players loved that, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.320 didn't they too? Tye. I mean the fact that you guys 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.280 can go to Hawaii, bring your families, bring your girlfriends, whatever, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.279 and just chill out and talk ball with other guys 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.159 and have a good time your season's over. That was 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.240 a great trip, wasn't it. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.200 Yeah? It was amazing. And you know, I always said 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.239 that I would never take a trip to Hawaii until 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.760 I made the Pro Bowl. That's just what I did 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.400 for myself. I said the same thing when it came 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.719 to can I am never stepping foot and Can until 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.600 if I have opportunity to go to Hall of Fame. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.320 But that changed because you know, one of my best 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.760 friends went before me, so I had to go support 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.480 him and Curtis Mars. So that was the first time 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.080 it was actually motivating. It's like, man, I would love 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.159 to have this opportunity as well one day. But you know, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.240 the Pro Bowl, I think, guys, they need to put 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.880 it back in Hawaii. I think it should be after 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.919 the season. I know they're trying to do somewhat of 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.560 a you know, NBA formatt and let the season keep 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.760 on going for whatever their reason are. They're the experts, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.440 not me. But I know from a player's perspective, you know, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.320 if you get that honor, you're definitely not gonna I mean, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.080 why not do what we did? We won and won 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.039 the Super Bowl and then we went right over to 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.200 the Pro Bowl. Guess what, you know, it felt good 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.400 because now you're looking at you know where Pro Bowl is, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.320 but you always got to pay attention to us right 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.000 now because we're coming off of a Super Bowl championship. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.120 My guess is that it's twofold. Number one, the players 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.320 that haven't played in the playoffs are now going a 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.160 month without playing football until they get to Hawaii. And two, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.119 I think they try to keep it so that after 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.760 the Super Bowl, no one's paying attention anymore. So if 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.920 they put the Pro Bowl in between and that off week, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.200 maybe it's more attractive to viewers. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.720 Right right, that's my guess. No, it is. I understand. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:39.880 That's why I said they want to just keep the 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.920 football thing going. But you got to understand a lot 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.360 of times when even though guys opt out, I will say, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.840 it's a lot of that going on too. But some 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.920 of your marquee players are the people that want to see. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.800 They want to see are playing in the Super Bowl. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.760 So who wouldn't want wait a little bit, a little 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.560 bit longer to see Patrick Mahoons finally go out there 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.520 just having fun like he's doing, but just playing in 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.239 the Pro Bowl to treat the fans, and Tom Brady 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.400 going over there. We want to see that again, right, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:08.760 You know what I mean? So you don't get to 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.840 see that as being an All Star. So you have 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.320 these names and these great players not participating. I think 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.000 it takes away from the game a little bit. But 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.440 from a player perspective, you want to be out there 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.440 after the season. Yeah, we're probably you know, not focusing 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.400 on like this is not the Super Bowl, this is 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.800 an All Star game. It is entertainment. This is a 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.800 reward at the end of the season, you know. But 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.360 at the end of the day, money, Trump's everything, And 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.640 like I said, they're the experts, and maybe from a 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.800 marketing standpoint for whatever it is, keeping it over here 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.360 in Florida in the US is a lot cheaper, So 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.720 it probably came down to the bottom line. No question 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.480 business perspective, because I'm always thinking like that, you. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:54.040 Know, BMO trivia. Question few what Patriot related news the 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.280 year that Ty law won the Pro Bowl MVP in 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.199 nineteen ninety eight, and I was there. I remember standing 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.920 in the lobby in another life, and I remember greeting 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.880 Taylan Lawyer Maloy, who are just coming back from maybe 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.880 some BS practice or something like that. But what big 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:13.160 Patriot related news happened that week? That Friday, the two 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.160 days before the Pro Bowl. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.000 Do you know, I'm guessing that was a beach flag 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.520 football game in which Robert Edwards's career basically ended that day. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.000 Yeah, and I guess we could all agree, ty that 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.840 that's probably a good thing that came out of the 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.440 Pro Bowl, is to not have that beach volleyball game, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.800 and certainly a sad situation because who knows how good 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.320 Robert Edwards would have been had that not happened. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.480 Absolutely, I think you know it was. It was never 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.600 you can't even say, you know, a blessing and a curse, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.920 because I mean, when someone you know loses their career 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.840 for something that was supposed to be fun and entertaining, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.439 you know, it can't be a blessing. But I think 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.440 the league learned something from that and that's why they 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.240 don't do it anymore. And now I know they're trying 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.440 to protect the players, but it was very unf fortunate 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.960 that it had to come when you're being rewarded as 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.560 being one of the rookies to be able to go 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.079 down there, you know, and play in the game and 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.520 still be around. You know, the guys that made the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.240 Pro Bowl, you know what I mean, But you made 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.480 it you know, your rookie year, just in a different way, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.720 but just to be in that atmosphere. And I would 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.480 have loved to say where Roberts Edward's careers would have 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.360 been and would it turned out hadn't been for that accident. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.839 Yeah. I mean I always look at the Pro Bowl 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.280 and I've never really cared too much about the actual game. Honestly. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.920 What I always thought they should do is bring you 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.599 guys to Hawaii and then do like skills competitions and 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.439 let us watch those. Will you guys get really competitive 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.960 with each other, talk trash like know what it would 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.439 be for d backs, but you know they have the 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.319 Quarterback Challenge things like that. I always thought those things 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.080 would be fun. I remember as a kid watching like 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.559 Battle of the Network Stars or whatever it was where 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.800 they had to tuggle war and they have the canoe 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.360 races and it was athletes doing that. I always thought 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.720 they should do some fun stuff like that rather than 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.400 play a meaningless game where where injury is a risk, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.440 even even in the Pro Bowl, because you still have 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:04.000 to block. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.280 And tackle, right. Yeah, I understand that because at the 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:07.760 end of the day, it's a business and you never 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.760 want to even get hurt at the Pro Bowl. But 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.120 when I was playing, we really played the game, you know. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.440 I mean, you might start off not going too much, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.320 but when it gets to the fourth quarter, it's that 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.800 difference that competitive nature kick in. And it's that difference 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.960 between that it's fifteen thousand dollars check and that twenty 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.440 five thirty thousand dollars check, you know, because the winner 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.480 get that little you know, everything over there Hawaii costs 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.800 more than everything, you know. You know, damn snicker costs 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.840 like fort dollars, you know what I mean, So you 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.360 got to you got to make up for that somehow. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.160 So we got a little bit of competitive But you know, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.319 it would be interesting to me because we had to 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.679 play the flag football game when I was there, and 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.719 uh and that was pretty funny, you know, and we 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.640 were competitive. But you know, imagine, guys, if because we 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.840 are talking about who the best athletes and I always 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.920 say DB's you know, seven on seven where all the 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.360 defensive guys got to play offense, all the offensive guys 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.040 got to play defense. I think that will really expose 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.680 a lot of guys out there that think they can 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.720 that think they can play dB. You know, because you know, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.360 you get a lot of receivers out there. You know, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.960 they got skills, but y'all running forward. This is what 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.760 you do. You run here, we run here, we run backwards. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.560 We showed to the side. So I would love to 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.800 see something like that. Some of the top skill guys 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.800 go out there, and you just got to play the 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.200 opposite side of the ball, you know, DeAndre Hopkins and 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.560 and and those guys playing dB. I got my money 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:26.720 on the DB's all day long. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.160 Who is the who is the hardest receiver you had 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:32.480 to cover? 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.280 You know? I always say, and I stayed consistent, Uh, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.480 since I've been getting asked this question, it was always 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.080 Jimmy Smith. I mean, Jimmy Smith was one of those 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.160 guys that you knew you had to you know, you 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:44.800 bring your lunch pell to work. You know. I have 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.720 the most respect for him, uh, you know, And I 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.760 think it was a matchup thing too, because he was 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:54.960 a big, strong, fast receiver and I was a bigger, strong, 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.200 fast corner. So we matched up well. And then you know, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:03.160 most receivers and in my opinion, not all, but most, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.560 you know, you know, more more bark than bite. You know, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.400 Jimmy he could sit there and bark the bike back 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:10.760 at you, you know what I mean. He wasn't gonna 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.719 get intimidated. The same thing with guys like Hines War. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.199 You know, he was like he was heines War, but 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.160 he'd run by you, heins ward, he ain't gonna run 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.160 by you. But he's as tough as nails, and he's 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.240 tough as they come as far as competitors. So I've 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.680 always liked Jimmy Smith. And even though he probably isn't 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.520 mentioned with the Hall of Famers and the all time greats, 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.000 but if you talk to football guys as far as 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.040 his career and in that period of time when he 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.200 was that you know, Pro Bowl guy, it was always 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.040 a great matchup, you know what I mean, because I 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.040 couldn't overpower him and things like that, He's coming right 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.839 back at me. So I had the utmost respect for 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:44.439 Jimmy Smith. 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.520 What if the guy who whose podcast you're on this 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.520 morning asked you the same question, would you have had 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:50.200 the same answer? 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.600 Yes, Okay, absolutely. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.120 Yeah, I mean, but he's not saying that. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.600 You know, like Keith Shawn as well. I mean, we 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.040 went at it. He got me a times, I got him, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.280 you know what I mean. But if you talk about 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.880 it if you had to pick one, and you remember 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.800 those battles. Even though you know it's easy for me 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.000 to say. You know, Marvin Harrison, I've played him so 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.319 many times. You know he's a pro football Hall of Famer. 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.880 You know the matchup the games was always epic, you 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.040 know what I mean. But if you're talking about going 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.040 out there and knowing if you you're really saying something 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:24.920 as a player, when even if you only play him two, three, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.320 four times and you knew that, hey, this guy can play, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.160 you know what I mean. That's how I felt about 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.160 Jimmy Smith because, like I said, he was fast too. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.280 People didn't give him enough credit, you know, for speed, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.240 And like I said, I tried to pump guys. That 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:37.720 was my thing. I'm gonna try to get up in 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.160 your face. I'm gonna try to test your manhood. I'm 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.800 gonna see what you're really made of. And Jimmy showed 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.680 me that, you know what, you the real deal and 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:45.920 I got I gotta respect for him. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.120 So let's switch gears here a little bit tight. Another 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.320 time of year is Hall of Fame time. You've been 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.880 through the agony and then ultimately the ecstasy of you know, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.000 not having the door knock instead receiving a phone call 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.360 and then having the door knock. And I think we 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.920 all remember those great pictures where you're clapping and your 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:12.000 family's behind you and you're so excited. Big c is 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.320 who everybody who cares about the Patriots is concerned about 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.680 this year, and he's had nothing but the agony so far. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.080 What's this week like for him? As one who's lived. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.840 It, you know what it is? First of all, you 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.000 got to look at the honor of even being in 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.680 the conversation. I think a lot of times, as much 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.920 as we all want to get in, you got to take, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.800 you know, the good with the bad, you know what 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.600 I mean. And the good part about this whole situation. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.360 You're one of fifteen guys, you know, as in the finals, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.920 so there is a chance, you know, and being that 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.440 he has been a finals for the last few years, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.920 he's waited his turn. You know, I think it's time 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.000 for Richard Seymour to get in. You know, everyone is 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.720 not going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.200 But once you get in, no one asks how long 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.880 it takes you to get there. Damn it, You've got 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.920 a gold jacket, and I think you know it's because 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.800 he wants to be in there. He wants to get 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.720 it over with because all the talk, everyone's rooting for you. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.000 But you know that every one of those guys in 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.560 there have a strong case themselves, you know what I mean. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:20.920 So it's up to voters and Ron Borges and the 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.880 guys that's advocating for us to even if these guys 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.120 weren't believers, you got to make him a believer or 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.400 you'll play when they really evaluate your player speaks for itself. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.200 But I think Richard, you know, hats off to him 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.800 just to be in this position because a lot of 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.600 us don't get into this position to even be considered. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.720 So I like his chances this year. I hope he 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.760 gets in, but I'm sure you know, we're not even 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.360 gonna put the bad energy out there. Hopefully he gets 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.360 in this time. But best believe, Richard Seymour not only 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.440 will have you know, a red jacket, he's going to 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.440 have a gold jacket as well. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.640 So Tyy, can you just take us what it's like. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.160 I mean, this year obviously is different. There was a 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.280 zoom call for the voters and there's no you know, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.359 Richard won't be at the Super Bowl sitting in a 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.320 hotel room, so can you? But can you tell us 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.720 what it's like when you're in that room and the 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.480 phone rings, which means not this year, versus the knock 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.280 on the door, which means obviously you're in, and just 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:23.720 the emotions of both of those. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:29.240 I mean, it's it's so crazy because that's the one time, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.200 you know, when you're talking about, you know, football, when 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.080 you start your career, when you get drafted, you were 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.880 just waiting for your phone to ring. That's all you want. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:39.080 Man. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.320 Somebody called me so and say you're taking it is 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.399 the total opposite when it's when you according to the 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.880 Hall of Fame. You know, you'd be like, please don't ring. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.479 You know, you don't want nothing. You want to hear 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.159 the knock on the door. So that is very Uh, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.080 it's stressful because everyone wants so much for you. I 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.119 was even hearing, you know, because I've been through it. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.400 There's no guarantees. Everyone belied in it, but and they 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.359 want to be there. I didn't want that many people, 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.120 you know, there, because I've been disappointed all of That's 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.600 why you can take me and my son whatever you know, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.480 happens happens, but they felt that they knew it and 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.080 they was so they say, But I was like, damn it, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.639 y'all said that two years ago too, you know what 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.159 I mean. But you know, I'm glad that everyone was 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.240 down there to be able to share that moment with me. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.800 You know, they they felt it. I didn't know what 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.000