1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, What I'm Back In Now, Number three, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Thursday edition, Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck has the 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: week off with his lovely wife Carrie. He'll be back 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: with me on Tuesday, right after Labor Day. We'll be 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: back together to take you guys on what is going 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: to be a sixty day sprint through the election. Lots 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: of chaos, I'm sure, and insanity coming in the next 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: couple of months in particular, but we bring on now 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: our buddy Alex Berenson, who's been coming on with us 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, and Alex, you and 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: I are somewhat similar in that I think for the 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: rest of our lives, COVID is going to be an 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: illuminating moment that we really can't forget because of what 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: it revealed about so many of the institutions that surround 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: us and the people who helm those institutions. And as 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I read the Mark Zuckerberg letter that he addressed to 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, which acknowledged COVID censorship and also acknowledged that 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: the FBI and or other elements of the United States 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: government were actively trying to rig the story surrounding the 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Hunter byden laptop it. Yet again, my jaw dropped at 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: the revelation of it. But you're a former New York 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Times reporter, and I was talking with Miranda Devine, who 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: broke a lot of these stories in the second hour 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: with the New York Post. I am a New York 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Times subscriber. I read the newspaper every day, still in 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: print form. They didn't cover it. They didn't cover Facebook CEO, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: who usually they cover with a fine toothed comb when 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: he says anything, saying that he was briefed by the 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: United States government and they told him that a laptop 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: they were in possession of that they knew was real, 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: was fake. And they didn't really cover the revelations that 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: our government tried to restrict what random Facebook users could 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: post on the site, including clear humor, satire, and jokes. 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: And I just a part of me looks at it 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: and says, this is a culmination of the failure of 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the mainstream press to actually do its job. I imagine 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: you still find this to be utterly jaw dropping in 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the way that it's occurring, because you're directly involved in 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: a lawsuit surrounding all of this. 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Now, yes, I assure him. And it's a losses that 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: almost nobody has heard of, aside from you know, the 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: people who subscribe to my sub stack and maybe people 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: who you know listen to your show and a few 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: other you know, conservative outlets like Fox News has written 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: about it a couple of times, but the mainstream media 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: has essentially put a full blackout on my lawsuit. That 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: may change now at Zuckerberg has spoken all those you say, 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: the fact that his you know, his comments to Jim 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: Jordan have been barely covered suggests that maybe it won't change. 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: He Here's what I would say that that I think 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: that I've been trying to emphasize lately because I think 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: it is so important. So I was bounced from Twitter 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: essentially at the insistence of the White House and Pfizer. 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: A couple of Pfizer officials, some White House officials, and 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: a guy named Andy Slavitt conspired to get me bounced 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: from Twitter in late August twenty twenty one, three years ago. 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: But and my rights were violated, okay, and I'm suing 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: to try to, you know, to hold those people accountable. 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: But here's what I think shouldn't be forgotten. I was 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: bounced ten days before the Biden administration announced vaccine mandates. Okay, 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: I was bounced because of my position that the vaccines 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: might not be a cure all for COVID and that 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: they certainly shouldn't be mandated. And I now have proof 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: that Twitter, the most senior officials at Twitter viewed my 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: speech as being about vaccine mandates. And so there were 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: people out there, I am one hundred percent certain of this, 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: who what have been able to stand up for their 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: right and say you can't do this to me. I'm 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: an American adult, and if I don't want to get 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: this mRNA vaccine, I shouldn't have to. And some of 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: those people, I'm not saying it's a lot, but I 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: know there are some wound up vaccinated as a director's 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: of my being silenced, and that is a that is 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: a bigger scandal even than what happened to me, right 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: because it's why I was silenced. 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, let me just kind of go with EDN's direction. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I am a First Amendment voter. That is, I can't 79 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: pledge to you who I'm going to vote for for 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. But I find this to 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: be so incredibly important, what the government tried to do 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: through Facebook, what we all went through with COVID that 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: I think I, along with a guy like RFK Junior, 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Tulsea Gabbard, Elon Musk, that team. I think you're kind 85 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: of a part of this team too. Where I may 86 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: not agree with a lot of what politicians say, I 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: don't think that anyone out there should agree with everything 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: that any politician says, because oftentimes parties end up collections 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: of ideas that have no logical coherency or consistency. That's 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: the reality of our modern American political process. But if 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: you don't support a robust First Amendment, I think it's 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a single issue that should unite a lot of people 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: who have a variety of perspectives. That's why I said 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: RFK Junior, Tulsea Gabbert, Elon Musk, I see it happening. 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Isn't our country truly at stake If you can't have 96 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: rigorous and vigorous debate about all sorts of issues, and 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: the government itself should not be in a position. I 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: just can't believe that this is even a debatable issue. 99 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: It's scary to me that the government deputizing effectively Facebook 100 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: as its censor is even in any way not being 101 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: covered as a major story or even scarier that The 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: New York Post, in the the New York Times, in 103 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: the Washington Post would be saying, yeah, sure, but censorship 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: from the government is a good thing if we agree 105 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: what they're trying to censor. 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Yes. I mean, I think on that last sentence of 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: yours is stunning that there were media outlets openly calling 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: or my censorship okay, and and you know, even and. 109 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Not arguing that you shouldn't be censored, which is an 110 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: active act, right, but they were actually arguing the opposite. 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: They wasn't just silence, which certainly occurred a lot, but 112 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: also like a hey, yay, this is a good thing. 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: There should be somebody who isn't able to say what 114 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: he really. 115 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Thinks, yes, and and and that is that is just 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: it's such a degradation and a dereliction of the media 117 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: as duties and a misunderstanding of the First Amendment. I mean, 118 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: I I I can't believe that part either. Right, these 119 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: people viewed themselves as an arm of the Biden administration, 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: and you know they forgot that this look you can 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: you can say the Pentagon, Okay, the Pentagon, they're they're there. 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: They deserve, you know, strict coverage there. They have their 123 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: own interests, you know, they might want to go to 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: war sometimes and they certainly want to present wars as 125 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: well as they can. And we we it's our job 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: in the media to question that. You should feel exactly 127 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: the same about the CDCs if you if you're in 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: the media, you should you know. These people they are 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: they are an interest group. They are they are taxpayer 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: funded and the men in their interest to make the 131 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, the war on COVID look like it's going 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: as well as it possibly can. And we're gonna be 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: skeptical and question them and what they say about vaccines 134 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: and everything else and so and that was I mean, 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 2: that was completely tossed up the window in twenty twenty 136 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one. And by the way, there's been 137 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: no reckoning again these people. They didn't cover what Zuckerberg said. 138 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: They are not covering my lawsuit. And let me tell you, 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: we are amending our complaint as as as I've said 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: publicly and the new and in this new complaint we 141 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: have proof again proof black and white emails showing that 142 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: the top executives at Twitter didn't think that my band 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: was correct. Okay, and that I mean that that is 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: a big story given the context, which was again about 145 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: vaccines and vaccine mandates and and and you know, I 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: can just about guarantee you that's very unlikely to be covered. 147 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: So they are not coming to terms with what they did, 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: and they're not coming to terms of what the government did. 149 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: It's really unbelievable. 150 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: We're talking to Alex Berenson. This is important too. I 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: think for people out there say, okay, well it's in 152 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the past. Rob Flaherty, I think you could speak to 153 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: this a little bit. Is one of the most active 154 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: out there in the Biden White House who was trying 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: to get Facebook to censor you and many other people. 156 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: He's now Kamala Harris's deputy campaign manager. So to your point, 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: not only was there not a reckoning, a lot of 158 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: people got promotions based on the wise and the censorship 159 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: that they were involved in. So it's not just that 160 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: this story is gone and everybody who was responsible has faded. 161 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: They've actually risen and been given more power. In many cases. 162 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Firey is a defendant in Barnson, b Biden, 163 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Scott Gottlieb, who was and is a director of Pfizer 164 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: and makes almost a half million dollars a year on 165 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: the board of Pfiser. You know, he's he's still on 166 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: face to the nation, you know, not every Sunday, but 167 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: Watts Andy Slavitt, who you know who is served at 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: the center of the conspiracy, was another Biden White House official. 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: Remains very active in you know, in democratic politics and 170 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: active in healthcare policy. You're right, none of these people 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: have faced any reckoning. But I do think, I mean, 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: I think as bad as that is, it's worse that 173 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: the media, which is theoretically nonpartisan, theoretically supposed to hold 174 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: both sides and all government agencies accountable, has not done. 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: So we're talking to Alex Berenson. How does it get better? Like, 176 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: let's pretend that you and me had a like a 177 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: blue ribbon panel of people. We may not agree on 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: anything else, but we believe that you should be able 179 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to argue anything. That robust and uninhibited debate is the 180 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: very essence and foundation of United States freedom. What would 181 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: you suggest needs to happen in the media. 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Well, so, okay, from a government point of view. It's 183 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: very clear. Look, if I can't get my lawsuits and 184 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: move forward, then these agencies will be able to do anything. Okay. 185 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: It's like it's short of saying, if you don't ban 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: this guy, we're gonna shut you down. As being short 187 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: of that is going to be legal and allowed. And 188 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: so my loss aderity is important because I have better 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: evidence than the Missouri case. It's it's very much more specific, 190 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: it's very targeted me. I would say broadly, the conduct 191 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: that that that was in the Missouri case that came 192 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: out shouldn't be allowed. Okay, if you're a government agency 193 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: and you want to make your own statements about COVID 194 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: and vaccines and everything else, go for it. But you 195 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: should not target individual users or individual posts. Okay, it's 196 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: not a fair fight. You shouldn't You really shouldn't target 197 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: them publicly, and you really shouldn't target the platforms to 198 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: try to get them not to carry them. I think 199 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: that should be a base level. Now, what happened to 200 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: me was a lot more specific than that, but I 201 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: think that conduct broadly should be off the table in 202 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: terms of what has to happen in the media. It's 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: funny like I'm not in favor of a Blue Ribbon 204 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: commisson and that would have make any recommendations. I think 205 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: the platforms need to be allowed generally to set their 206 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: own rules. Now, if you're a super large platform like 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: Twitter or Facebook, and you're so dependent on Section two 208 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: thirty protection, maybe the standards for you, like you need 209 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: to be regulating more like eighteens he used to be 210 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: in the old days, where essentially you have to carry 211 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: all messages. That is a very complicated question, but there 212 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: are probably there are probably reasonable answers to it that 213 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: we're not near right now. But in terms of like 214 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: how I get to speak, just let me speak, like, 215 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: I have a substack, right. So, one of the things 216 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: that happened to me after Twitter band me is that 217 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: I had a you know, I had a large and 218 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: growing audience on substack, which is a newsletter platform, and 219 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: I still do. I have this newsletter called Unreported Truths, 220 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: which anybody can sign up for, which is free. Now Substack, 221 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you can pay for it, but it is 222 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: free at core. Substec is not as good as Twitter 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: as a you know, as a as a mass platform 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: because it doesn't have the same audience. But at least 225 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: I was allowed to speak, but guess what happened. There 226 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: were people going after me on substack trying to censor 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: me there too, So that just really has to stop. Okay. 228 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: So those are two things, and there's one specific thing 229 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: that I that service just occurred to me in the 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: last few weeks, and I think this is something actually 231 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: that both parties should agree with. And this is quite specific. 232 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: If the platforms want to ban people and they sort 233 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: of have you know, they have their own rules and 234 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: they're following those rules, and you accumulate strikes and they 235 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: ban you, okay, but the band should be prospective. What 236 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean is when my Twitter account was silenced, it 237 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: was taken offline. For any outsider, I think you could 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 2: maybe still see it if you were like a Twitter executive. 239 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: It wasn't erased, but it was effectively erased to the public, 240 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: and that should not be allowed. That is orwellingness, that 241 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: is making history disappear, and that's I think something that 242 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: Congress could change just by changing sort of parameters of 243 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: two thirty, they could make it very difficult for the 244 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: platforms to do that. So I don't think the platform 245 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: should be allowed to erase history. 246 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Last question for you. You tried to take your kids. 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: I think you have three to go visit the White 248 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: House recently, as many dads and moms all over the 249 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: country have done on family vacations to d C. What happened? 250 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: So I I'm actually calling you or talking to you 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: from DC right now Union Station. We had a tour. 252 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: We had made the request almost three months in advance, 253 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: and you know, we were told by the office it 254 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: was actually Ram Paul's office, that they expected we'd be 255 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: able to get in because you know, they have visibility 256 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: into into you know, into tour dates. And the request 257 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: was denied so the White House. And I can't prove 258 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: that it was denied as a you know, sort of 259 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: form of petty retaliation for my lawsuit, but I strongly 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: suspect that. And it just shows you how petty these 261 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: folks really are that they would keep my kids from 262 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: a you know, forty five in a standard White House 263 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: tour that any American can get if they just you know, 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: put in far enough in advance. It's it's so crummy 265 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: and petty of them. And and and as somebody said, 266 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: somebody said on my subspect, somebody said, well, I wouldn't 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: let you into my house if you were suing me either, 268 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: And someone else said, it's not Biden's house, it's the 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: people's house, and that's exactly right. 270 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. Alex Barns said, have a good trip to DC. 271 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on sharing the latest with us. 272 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, is anybody going to get the 273 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: new COVID shot? 274 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: Is it? 275 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Basically everybody just said, yeah, it's worthless and nobody's getting it. 276 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable if you look at what happened 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: to Maderna and Maderna stocked. People have rejected. It's not 278 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: just that they've rejected the COVID shot. Maderna now has 279 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: a shot for another virus called RSB, and people do 280 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: not want mRNA shots period. If there's a different kind 281 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: of shot available, which there is for RSB, people will 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: not take an m RNA shot. So no, no one's 283 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: getting the COVID shot. 284 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: No doubt, Alex Bearnson, You've been right about almost everything. 285 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate you sharing your latest with us. 286 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: Thanks Clay. 287 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, Alex former New York Times reporter, 288 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: So again, I think there are a lot of people 289 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: waking up all over the country on a regular basis 290 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: to this new media environment that we live in and 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: saying no, we're not going to handle this anymore. Rolling 292 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: into the weekend, a lot of you on the road. 293 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: In fact, my own wife on the road right now 294 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: with our youngest child headed down to Florida. I'm going 295 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: to join her on Friday. We're gonna be down at 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: the beach, probably take a lot of family photos, a 297 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: lot of different fun events going on for Labor Day weekend. 298 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: And if you're going to be doing that, hanging out 299 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: with your friends and family over the Labor Day weekend, 300 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: you may well sit back and think about things that 301 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: you did in the seventies, in the eighties, in the 302 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: nineties before there were digital photos, back when you had 303 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: VHS tapes, back when you had actual photos. Maybe maybe 304 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be sitting around saying, you know what I 305 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: need to do. 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I don't think 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: we've taken any calls so far today, so I have 338 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: been listening eight hundred and two eight two two eight 339 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: eight two. We will discuss the upcoming Kamala interview relating 340 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: to how CNN will cover it. I laid out all 341 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: my questions for you already, and also the latest numbers 342 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: out there and why they're starting to look somewhat very 343 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: favorable for Donald Trump. I'll give you the absolute latest 344 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: on that. But I want to tell you right now 345 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: there's one credit card that you can trust to stand 346 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: up for your values, and it's coined. 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Coin supports all sorts 355 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: of different conservative causes that you may otherwise want to support, 356 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: but now you're doing it through credit card. You also 357 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: get one percent back. Go to coign dot com, select 358 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck in the how did you hear about 359 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: a section that's coin dot com, Clay and buck get 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: hooked up today. A lot of people are just not 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: very smart on politics, and I mentioned that a lot 362 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: of Kamala voters. If you ask them, Okay, why are 363 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: you supporting Kamala, they can't even tell you what the 364 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: answer is. If you ask them, okay, what do you 365 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: think Kamala has done really well? They can't answer that 366 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: question either. And that's why I've said, hey, this is 367 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: an economy border crime. It's as easy as EBC, right 368 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: instead of ABC economy border crime. Kamala's wrong on all three. 369 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: They are the three issues that matter most of the country. 370 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: She's been in office for three and a half years. 371 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: She's failed on all of it. But note because she's 372 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: vice president a lot of people just don't pay attention 373 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: to the vice president, and so they're trying to argue, Oh, 374 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: Kamala is a fresh start, she's a new beginning, except wait, 375 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: she's already in office. That logic doesn't even add up. 376 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: Here is Ben Stiller explaining why he is voting for 377 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Listen, quick question, king. 378 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: What you like about Harris platform. 379 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 4: I'm just very excited about the moving forward and all 380 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: the energy and excitement that's around this movement right now. 381 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm here, because it's time for change 382 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: and it seems like it's happening. 383 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Do you think Sylvie able to sustain the momentum post convention? 384 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: For sure? 385 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: Do you think is going to be close? It's going 386 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: to be close, but you know, everybody's motivated. 387 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Actually the work can make it happen. 388 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: So and she's and she and timals are just an 389 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: incredible candidates. 390 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: Okay, So what I would say to all of you, 391 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Stiller, no actual explanation there to the 392 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: extent that you talk with politics, talk about politics, maybe 393 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: with your kids, maybe with your grandkids, in a rational way. 394 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: If you find out that somebody is voting for Kamala 395 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: do what I did yesterday with Nate Silver, who we 396 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: had on to talk about data analytics in his new book. 397 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: And he said, Okay, I'm gonna vote for Kamala and 398 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: if you listen to that. I said why and he said, oh, 399 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: Jan sixth really bothered him. Now I don't need to 400 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: get into a debate about Jan sixth on the radio. 401 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: You guys know that I think the focus on Jan 402 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: sixth is absurd. We had months of BLM riots protest 403 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: the idea that you would, four years later, in my opinion, 404 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: be basing a decision on Jan six This is crazy, right, 405 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: But at least he had an answer, even if it's 406 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: not a good one. I want you to ask Kamala 407 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: supporters in your life, what has she done that you 408 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: think was so good that she deserves a promotion. It's 409 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: an easy question, right. In most of life, you get 410 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: promoted if you did your current job. 411 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: Well. 412 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: All of you out there who have ever had a job, 413 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: if you you've gotten a promotion, generally speaking, the reason 414 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: you got the promotion was because you did your current 415 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: job well. Now you might get a promotion and not 416 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: be as good at the new job. It has new titles, 417 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: new responsibilities. But the number one way that in a meritocracy, 418 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: which is important we determine who should get raises, who 419 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: should get promotions, is based on job performance. Right, why 420 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: does Kamala deserve a promotion? What can you point to 421 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: that Kamala has done that is actually better now than 422 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: it was when she came into office. That's the second step, right, 423 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: first question, why do you deserve it? Why do you 424 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: believe Kamala deserves a promotion? Second question, Well, they might say, well, 425 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: she's like Ben Stiller, Well she's young and she's changed. No, 426 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: she's not. She's saying basically that she's going to continue 427 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the same policies that have Joe Biden with around the 428 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: f thirty five percent approval rate, and the same policies 429 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: that led to her being the least popular vice president 430 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: in any of our lives. Dick Cheney shot somebody, and 431 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: he had a higher approval rating than Kamala. Harris dan 432 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: Quill couldn't spell potato, and he had a higher approval 433 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: rating than Kamala. Harris al Gore thought that the entire 434 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Arctic was going to melt away and every polar bear 435 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: was going to starve and he had a higher approval 436 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: rating than Kamala Harris. Go through the roster. Joe Biden 437 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: actually people didn't really mind him that much when he 438 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 1: was vice president because he didn't do anything, but he 439 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: had an infinitely higher approval rating than Kamala Harris. Everybody 440 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: has why does she deserve a promotion? Second part of that, 441 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: what has she actually done that has made things better 442 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: in this nation? To me, most people are not voting 443 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: for Kamala, they're just voting against Trump. But that's the 444 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: same game plan they ran in twenty twenty when they 445 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: hid Biden in his basement. What's changed? And this is 446 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: significant and I would like for Dana Bash to focus 447 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: on this sum tonight. But what is significant here is 448 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: they're the incumbent party. You can't argue for hope and 449 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: change when you are actually already in office. You've had 450 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity to hope and change your way into a 451 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: new country and hasn't led to anything. When she came 452 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: into office, we had one point four percent inflation. It 453 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: went all the way to nine point one percent. The 454 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: average cost of goods has gone up at a higher 455 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: rate over twenty percent than most people's wages have it's 456 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: not made up in your mind when you go to 457 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: buy groceries that cost her up. Kamala gave one speech 458 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: on the economy and she said ground beef cost her 459 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: up fifty percent. Yeah, while you were in office, the 460 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: EV mandate has collapsed. Lots of people don't want electric vehicles. 461 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I saw the other day, I think it was this week. 462 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: Ford took a one point nine billion that's billion with 463 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: a B right down because they can't sell the evs 464 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: that they've made and that they've been producing. In fact, 465 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: many of you probably have worked in the automotive industry 466 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: at some point in your life. Maybe you're selling cars 467 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: right now. You can't move the electric vehicles that you 468 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: have right now off the lot. My family's driving to 469 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: Florida this weekend. I would never buy an electric vehicle 470 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: because I can't get to Florida from Nashville where I 471 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: live on one charge, and there's no way I'm going 472 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: to try to find a charging station and sit around 473 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: for an hour or more waiting for my EV to 474 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: charge on my road trip. A lot of you out 475 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: there traveling for Labor Day. You've been traveling in your 476 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: cars for the holiday for the long summer vacation. Kamala 477 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: is wrong on everything, and being wrong on everything in 478 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: a election year should have significant consequences. So just hit 479 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: them with those two questions, what has she done well 480 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: such that she deserves a promotion? And what do you 481 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: actually support? And I think what you'll see is almost 482 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: no one can actually give you anything that Kamala has 483 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: done that they think has made their life better. And 484 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: to the extent that JD. Vans and Donald Trump can 485 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: just focus with that laser like over the next sixty days, 486 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: I would say the same thing in the debate itself, Kamala, 487 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: what have you done that has made the average American's 488 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: life better in the first four years of your vice 489 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: presidency such that you deserve a promotion? They can't give 490 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: an answer. They're not actually supporting anything. They're just anti Trump. 491 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Their brains to a large extent, are so broken that 492 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: they cannot comprehend the idea that election should be about 493 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: what people are going to do, not about what somebody 494 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: did four years ago, which, by the way, Trump was amazing. 495 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Go back to January and February of twenty twenty. The 496 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: unemployment rate for all races has never been lower. The 497 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: inflation rate, like I said, was virtually non existent. Mortgages 498 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: were two and a half or three percent, Wages were 499 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: out pacing the cost of goods, meaning everybody had more 500 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: money in their pocket, regardless of your background. January February 501 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty is the strongest the American economy has 502 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: ever been in any of our lives. The only reason 503 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Trump didn't win a landslide is because they were able 504 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: to use COVID to to terrify enough people to change 505 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: their vote, and also to simultaneously use COVID to drive 506 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: up election turnout through ballot harvesting and all sorts of 507 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: rig jobs. And yet Trump still came within about forty 508 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: thousand votes of winning in twenty twenty. They know that data, 509 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: and that's why they're desperately hiding. We come back, we'll 510 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about the Dana Bash interview. 511 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: Take some of your calls to close up the Thursday 512 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: edition of the program. I'm Klay Travis, and I appreciate 513 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us, and i want 514 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: to tell you I'm going to head up to New 515 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: York City soon in October, relatively soon, and I'm not 516 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: going to be on air one day because I'm going 517 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: to be raising money for Tunny Tunnel to Towers in 518 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: their biggest golf event of the year. And then in December, 519 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back up to New York City 520 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: and Buck and I are going to buy a table 521 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: at the Tunnel to Towers event. In fact, we believe 522 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: in this organization to such an extent that we are 523 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: donating ten percent of the profits from Crockett Coffee two 524 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers on a regular basis to try to 525 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: help them do what they do, which is make the 526 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: world a little bit better every day. They care for 527 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the families of our fallen first responders, defenders of our freedoms. 528 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: One of those defenders was a guy named Christopher Chambers. 529 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: He enlisted in the US Navy later graduated from seal training. 530 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: He was conducting a nighttime raid on a ship that 531 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: was illegally transporting advanced to lethal aid from Iran to 532 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Houti forces in Yemen when he was reported missing facing 533 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: eight foot swells. The US Navy Special Warfare Operator first 534 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: Class lost his life with another service member. Christopher was 535 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: just thirty seven years old. He left behind a wife 536 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and a young daughter. The tunnel. The Towers Foundation provided 537 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Christopher's family with a mortgage free home. Tunn of the 538 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: Towers is committed to helping America keep its vow to 539 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: never forget nine to eleven or the sacrifices of its 540 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: greatest heroes, join both Buck and Me and donating eleven 541 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: dollars a month a tunnel to Towers at T two 542 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: t dot org. That's t the number two T dot org. 543 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: I realized I didn't give you my prize picks. Pick 544 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: that I told you I was going to give you 545 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: an hour or two. All right, you get fifty bucks. 546 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: You guys know that I am a huge sports fan. 547 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: You can bet five dollars on this and you will 548 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: get back ten times your money if you make the 549 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: picks that I am about to give you. If I'm right. 550 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: First of all, they're giving you a giveaway. Alabama quarterback 551 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe more than a half yards passing Shador Sanders 552 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: he's playing tonight for Colorado. More than three hundred and 553 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: four and a half passing yards tonight again. Carson Beck, 554 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Georgia quarterback less than two sixty two and a half. 555 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: All of those plus LSU quarterback Garrett Nusbayer more than 556 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy nine and a half yards. If 557 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm right on all four of those quarterbacks and it 558 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: starts tonight with Shador Sanders, then we will win ten 559 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: to one. On the payout. You get fifty bucks if 560 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you go to price picks dot com and just use 561 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: my name Clay at that app. You can play it 562 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: in Florida, Georgia, Texas, California. Price picks dot Com, use 563 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: my name Clay. Okay, we got all women lined up 564 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: who want to react to what we have been talking about. 565 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Let's roll in Windy and Michigan. You want to react 566 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: to some of the questions that I was laying out 567 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: in the first hour, Hi. 568 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: I do one of the questions that you said that 569 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: you would ask her was do you regret sleeping with 570 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 5: Willy Brown? I think that that gives her too many 571 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: absence to deflect, like we all do stupid stuff when 572 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: we're young, and you know, without really taking responsibility for 573 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 5: what happened. I think a better question would be would 574 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 5: you be where you are today if you hadn't slept 575 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 5: with Willy Brown? Who gave you your start because you 576 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: were sleeping with him? I mean I don't know how 577 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 5: you would react to that kind of a question. 578 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: It's a great question, Wendy. It's better than my version. 579 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Thank you for calling. Dana Bash 580 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: will not ask that question. But given that Willie Brown 581 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: paid Kamala Harris four hundred thousand dollars in state funded 582 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: jobs while she was sleeping with him, and she was 583 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old and he was sixty, that is 584 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: a fabulous question that is very valid to ask of 585 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. ROBERTA from Florida, what you got? How are 586 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you doing? Roberta? 587 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'm calling you know. 588 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: I raised four kids on a little island you may 589 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: have heard of it, Saint Thomas, AH. 590 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: That is where I practiced the law i've still licensed 591 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: in the US Virgin Islands. You raised four kids on 592 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: Saint Thomas, I did. 593 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: I did, and you know it was tef They went 594 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: to a private little school there called Antilles. 595 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: Oh I know Antilles. I wrapped Antilly some Oh yeah, 596 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: I've been to that school. 597 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you probably res my kids, I'm sure. 598 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: But anyway, I just wanted to say I'm just a 599 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: common sense mom, like I said, I raised four kids. 600 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't easy. 601 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: You know. 602 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: I sent them all to liberally all got liberal college, 603 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: you know offers they went. They came up pretty unscathed. 604 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: But I just want to say, in all this craziness 605 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: that we have, we just need some common sense. And 606 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm urging people just talk to your family, talk to 607 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: you know. I have family members that you know, only 608 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: are voting for Harris because they don't like Trump. Yeah, 609 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: and I'm just saying, you know, put put this aside 610 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: the person and focus on these policies. And I guarantee 611 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: you start talking to people, they have no clue. They 612 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: even my kids. I mean, my kids are awesome, but 613 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: you know, I talk to them. We talk a lot. Luckily, 614 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: you know, they're they're pretty conservative, they've been raised that way. 615 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: You know. 616 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: They come to me and they're like, Mom, do you 617 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: believe that? 618 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: Is this really? What's going on? Is this? You know? 619 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: And my heart sinks when I hear stuff like we're 620 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: more concerned about pronouns and gender and putting tampons in 621 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: a bat that we are. I thank god that I'm 622 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 3: not my kids aren't in school right now, because my 623 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: heart just aches when I hear stuff like this, and 624 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, we just need common sense. 625 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Don't be afraid to go out there and talk to 626 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: people and just be kind, but be direct. You know, 627 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: it's down to policies now. It's this is crazy, ROBERTA. 628 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for your call. By the way, I was 629 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Antilles School in Saint Thomas, US Virgin Islands. 630 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: When I was twenty five years old, young practicing attorney, 631 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: I was the mock trial coach crazily for the Antilly School, 632 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: tiny private school in the US Virgin Islands, and our 633 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: team went and won the mock trial competition. So that's 634 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: when I was twenty five years old, long before I 635 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: had kids, but I was the mock trial coach of 636 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: the Antillie School. It's crazy that you called in, and 637 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm glad you get all four of those kids raised 638 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: and they're off to good schools and hopefully they can 639 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: end up being very productive members of society going forward. 640 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: Maryland in Oklahoma, it's got a question for US Maryland, 641 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: which got. 642 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, yes. 643 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 6: My question is you know there's several states saying that 644 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 6: RFK Junior has to stay on the ballot. Well, my 645 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 6: question is why isn't Joe Biden being required to have 646 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 6: to stay on the ballot, And if so, maybe we 647 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 6: need to push for him to stay on the ballot 648 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 6: so Kamala will not end up being our president. 649 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Maryland. You raise a very 650 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: valid question. And I told you that this was going 651 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: to happen four months. Democrats have been fighting with every 652 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: fiber of their being to keep as many third parties 653 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: off the ballot as possible. Jill Stein, Green Party, whoever 654 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: the libertarian candidate is going to end up being, believe 655 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: it or not, Cornell West and RFK Junior, as soon 656 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: as RFK Junior endorsed Trump, they completely flipped and they 657 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: now are saying no, no, no, RFK Junior cannot up 658 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: pull his name off the ballot now based off the timing, 659 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and Marilyn raises a very good question, and this was 660 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: actually debated in a significant way because Democrats were putting 661 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: their nominee foward too late, if you remember, based on 662 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: the law in Ohio, and what did Republicans do bent 663 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: over backwards to make sure that Democrats weren't inconvenienced even 664 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: though their convention was so late that it was violating 665 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Ohio law. I don't disagree. I think there are some 666 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: red states out there that if the RFK issue is 667 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: becoming one, they should point out that the switch to 668 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: Kamala is happening super late as well. Friday edition tomorrow. 669 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging with us Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton 670 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth.