WEBVTT - Masters Takeaways: Rahm vs. Koepka and a Mailbag with Shane Bacon

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green. For example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Brid Egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Frida Egg Egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Bride Egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Lie, I'm about ready to run off the.

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<v Speaker 3>Up So Joseph the Friday eggs own. Andy Johnson won

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<v Speaker 3>the media lottery at the Masters because some people just

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<v Speaker 3>have all the luck. And he is playing Augusta National today,

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think he will shoot?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good question. I believe he's playing with Persimmon drivers.

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<v Speaker 4>It does yes. Before I answer that, Gary, am I

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<v Speaker 4>correct that he also won a Frida Egg event recently?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I feel like he's won multiple Frida Egg events.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say between a win at a Friday

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<v Speaker 4>Egg event and winning the Masters lottery, things are starting

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<v Speaker 4>to stink, maybe a little bit at the Friday Egg.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know how corrupt things have gotten, but

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<v Speaker 4>just seeing his name pulled it raises some questions. Per

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<v Speaker 4>Simon driver are in they're playing the championship teas. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Andy, I haven't looked at the forecast today. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been more checking it for the tournament days. I should

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<v Speaker 4>have been checking it for media day. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>with this is a hard question. Per Simon driver.

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<v Speaker 3>Long, per Simon driver PT three wood that he had

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<v Speaker 3>bombs by the way, like that carries farther than the driver,

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<v Speaker 3>but the driver gets run out.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He hits kind of this knuckle cut with a driver

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<v Speaker 3>sort of low. The PT is a high, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of straight ball that he hits. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>has Wilson's staff seventies. I believe Era irons goose neck

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<v Speaker 3>and that's his. That's the setup he's going with.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I'll give Andy his flowers around with him in

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<v Speaker 4>the fall at Essex County Club and he shot a

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<v Speaker 4>bogie free sixty six with a person and driver. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>say eighty three, eighty three at Augusta.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty three, Okay, yeah, I mean, what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>I think he might not keep score. That's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a cop out, though I would I would say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure what his form has been like lately, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he'll break eighty. I think I'll go with seventy

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<v Speaker 3>nine just to take the under on yours and we'll see,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see how it turns out, I'll get in touch

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<v Speaker 3>with him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna beat Jason Day.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Jason Day. Well, they're playing I believe they play

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<v Speaker 3>from the members teas, so yeah, then you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>they were playing from the championship tees, then that would

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<v Speaker 3>be one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But from the.

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<v Speaker 3>Member tees, I feel like the courses, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be gettable, but the greens are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be really really tough and so, but yeah, you never

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<v Speaker 3>know what anything. Sometimes he goes super low. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 3>good player. I was just joking earlier about him winning

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<v Speaker 3>Friday events. I'm not sure that he's won one. He

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<v Speaker 3>may have won the one at Lake Mercaid recently. But also,

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<v Speaker 3>you know who else has won Frida Egg events, Cameron

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<v Speaker 3>Heurdis and Will Knights and so, honestly, the corruption sort

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<v Speaker 3>of has eaten its way through the entire company fair enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually I thought he's playing the championship teas. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's member t's a'll go with like eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, I think we're converging around the same number.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's probably a good guest.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 3>You are listening to the Frida Egg podcast. I'm Garrett Morrison.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Joseph Lamania, and this episode is of course

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<v Speaker 3>a Master's recap. We're not going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Johnson's golf very much more during it. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to bring on Shane Bacon a little later to answer

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<v Speaker 3>some of your male bag questions. But first, Joseph and

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<v Speaker 3>I will cover the headline stories, which include John Rahm

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<v Speaker 3>versus Brooks Koepka. First and foremost, Ram is the best

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<v Speaker 3>player in golf right now. I think most people agree

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<v Speaker 3>with that, and Keopka is the best Major championship player

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<v Speaker 3>of the past decade or so. So it's very siding

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<v Speaker 3>to see these two go head to head. Rom came

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<v Speaker 3>out on top shooting a final round sixty nine. Do

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<v Speaker 3>I have that right? Sixty nine to win by four shots?

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<v Speaker 3>I probably should have looked that.

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<v Speaker 4>Up for sures be trying to finish to win by

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<v Speaker 4>four shots, You're.

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<v Speaker 3>Good sixty nine to win by four shots. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>my facts straight. So that's John Rahm. He is a

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<v Speaker 3>Master's winner. That's his second career major. Now, Joseph, in

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<v Speaker 3>the past, you've said that Rom has a tendency to

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<v Speaker 3>be over aggressive strategically, whereas Koepka at least in majors,

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<v Speaker 3>is very patient and smart. From what you saw this week,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think Rom has turned a corner and become

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<v Speaker 3>more like Major Championship Kopka in his strategic approach?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I don't. I think not necessarily. But part of

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<v Speaker 4>the beauty of Augusta to me is that you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to be conservative everywhere. There's such a good blend

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<v Speaker 4>of aggressive shots and conservative shots, So I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>take huge sho with like John Ram's course management in general,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he can get over aggressive, and he's had

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<v Speaker 4>those moments like at the Players Championship some other moments

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<v Speaker 4>like even at bay Hill. Just I'd probably advise him

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<v Speaker 4>playing the course a little bit differently. But like an

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<v Speaker 4>example would be the approach on six at Augusta. Right

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<v Speaker 4>when that pins up on the top right there, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a concert that's not a shot you need to

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<v Speaker 4>hit a conservative approach into it would just if you

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<v Speaker 4>hit into the center of the green, it would end

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<v Speaker 4>up all the way at the bottom. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>Augusta is great in the way that it rewards both

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive and conservative play depending on the pin locations. And

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<v Speaker 4>John Rom did a really good job handling all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, that pin position on six was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>in the final round because John Ram came up short.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he misstruck his iron. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>that was a good shot for him, but he ended

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<v Speaker 3>up hitting a good lag putt, or at least a

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<v Speaker 3>good second putt. He two putted from which it was

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<v Speaker 3>off the chip. Yeah, yeah, and he lag putted on five,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm thinking of. He was kind of front

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<v Speaker 3>of green on five and he putted from there, but

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<v Speaker 3>on six he was off the green front. Koepka was long,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is like really not where you want to be,

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<v Speaker 3>and Kepka ended up making bogie. And so when you're

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<v Speaker 3>going at that pin, I found myself wondering, wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>ask you, like, where are you aiming for that? Because

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like if you aim at that high right

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<v Speaker 3>shelf that you're risking going over and that's the deadly,

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<v Speaker 3>deadly spot, Whereas if you're down on the lower level,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're not making birdie more than likely. But

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<v Speaker 3>two putting from there, or even getting up and down

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<v Speaker 3>from where John Ram was seems pretty feasible. So what's

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<v Speaker 3>the what is even the approach there is it just

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<v Speaker 3>like hit it anywhere and just don't go long.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a really difficult approach shot. So I actually think

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<v Speaker 4>John Rahm, I'd have to go back and Rewatch. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he misstruck it. I think he misjudged the

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<v Speaker 4>wind and got a little gust or something, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think he thought that shot was better than it ended

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<v Speaker 4>up being. Generally on six, when the pin's on the right,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're kind of pin high on the right or

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<v Speaker 4>just somewhere over there, you're okay that putt from down

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<v Speaker 4>below lagging it fifty seventy feet. That is such a

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<v Speaker 4>hard putt to get the speed right that I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>just taking some kind of conservative approach and accepting a

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<v Speaker 4>fifty foot putt. I'm not doing that. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>you are trying to kind of go at that pin

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<v Speaker 4>or keep it pin high a little bit right. Just

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<v Speaker 4>a tough shot. It's a really tough shot at Augusta.

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<v Speaker 4>That separates the strikers from the non strikers. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>great hole. I think that's such a great example of

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<v Speaker 4>how Augusta has so many of these different targets. They're small,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes you can be aggressive with them. Other times

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<v Speaker 4>you have to play defense, often on hole one, right

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<v Speaker 4>when you get a backpin on hole one, if you

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<v Speaker 4>go over. If you go over that pin, you're dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's cool that there's just this blend of shots.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to be aggressive some places, got to be conservative

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<v Speaker 4>in others.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe jo Justin you have an extensive notebook on

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<v Speaker 3>what happened in that final round at Augusta National, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll kind of let you guide things from here. Where

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to start with emptying your notebook on

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<v Speaker 3>this duel between Brooks Koepka and John Ram.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm interested in your opinion. I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty sleepy Masters. Even though it had all the

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<v Speaker 4>ingredients of being a really exciting duel, it didn't really materialize.

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<v Speaker 4>Like one note I have is that I think this

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<v Speaker 4>will end up being one of the leader boards that

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<v Speaker 4>when you look back on fifteen years from now, it

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<v Speaker 4>will be like the least reflective of who actually had

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to win. Like Phil and Jordan Speith are

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<v Speaker 4>going to show up there. They never had a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to win this golf tournament. They got I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>made some birdies down the stretch, but they were never

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<v Speaker 4>live to win. Read maybe could have Charles schwartzeld it

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<v Speaker 4>and like maybe got into minus ten and had an

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<v Speaker 4>outside chance. Russell Henley, Russell Henley.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say he had.

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<v Speaker 4>A prayer, because I think he was. I think he

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<v Speaker 4>played his back nine even so if he had shot

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<v Speaker 4>like three under, he could have posted minus ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was like minus seven in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the back nine. I remember him seeing and I was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, well, he could do it, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Take a lot exactly. And you know, one of my

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<v Speaker 4>notes is that some of the players who had the

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<v Speaker 4>chance to step up and win just didn't perform. And

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<v Speaker 4>the names that kind of come to mind there for

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<v Speaker 4>me would be Brooks. Kopka obviously really was flat, played

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<v Speaker 4>a terrible round of golf. Victor Hoblin didn't didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got some short right from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Victor Hoblin was out of it. I'm not sure it

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<v Speaker 3>was even just the short game. He just didn't show

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<v Speaker 3>up with anything on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think that is one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>to keep in mind with Hoblin. The short game is

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<v Speaker 4>still a problem. He's an amazing ball striker, but it

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<v Speaker 4>makes you a little nervous when you don't have a

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<v Speaker 4>great short game and how you have to attack some

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<v Speaker 4>of those targets. At Augusta, the other player was Patrick Cantley,

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<v Speaker 4>who was actually kind of live this tournament, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he shot plus three on the back nine,

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<v Speaker 4>like he had a real chance to win that golf

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<v Speaker 4>tournament and just kind of didn't give it much. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of one of the stories for me. John

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<v Speaker 4>rom played excellently, but there wasn't a lot of There

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of pushing at the end.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this had this setup of my favorite type

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<v Speaker 3>of major championship, which is the dual runaway. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>think of Troon Stenson versus Mickelson. You know, even though

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<v Speaker 3>that ended with Stenson kind of separating himself a bit

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<v Speaker 3>from Phil, that was just so incredible to watch that

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote match play situation between those two with really

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<v Speaker 3>high stakes, both players playing incredibly well, and so in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning on Sunday when they were finishing up that

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<v Speaker 3>third round, I was seeing that sort of come together,

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<v Speaker 3>like these two guys could kind of separate themselves a bit,

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<v Speaker 3>put some distance between themselves in third place and just.

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<v Speaker 5>Have it at out.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem was that neither of them, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>Brooks Koepka, really played well enough to create that true dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>Even John Ram, you know, he didn't advance much. He

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<v Speaker 3>did what he had to do. He played a great,

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<v Speaker 3>great final round of golf, but it was a sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a sixty five. You know, he didn't shoot

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<v Speaker 3>the round that Phil Mickelson shot in the final round,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it wasn't really a true situation. It was

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<v Speaker 3>more like these two guys were separated enough so that

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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't a real threat coming from behind. A few

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<v Speaker 3>of the guys who sort of had a chance fell away,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by the time we got to Hoole ten,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was pretty clear that Rom was in

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<v Speaker 3>the driver's seat. And unless Koepka did something incredible or

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<v Speaker 3>Rom had a little collapse on a man corner, which

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<v Speaker 3>is always a possibility, it just didn't seem like that

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<v Speaker 3>was going to happen. As soon as Kopka missed that

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<v Speaker 3>putt on nine and did not make the par to

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<v Speaker 3>Rom's bogie, it just seemed like this was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sort of a cruise into the finish and it

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<v Speaker 3>was and it wasn't unimpressive, Like it was really impressive

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<v Speaker 3>to see John Rohm do what he did on the

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<v Speaker 3>back nine. I think he played incredible golf on the

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<v Speaker 3>back nine, but it didn't quite turn into that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of battle to the death that I was sort of

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<v Speaker 3>hoping for on Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, and I think Brooks is I'm very impressed

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<v Speaker 4>with what Brooks did this week. For the record, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's a fascinating story going forward. His version of

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<v Speaker 4>the events in his post round with Amanda Renner I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't quite agree with Like he talked about not getting

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<v Speaker 4>some good breaks and how the approach on nine could

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<v Speaker 4>have rolled down to a couple feet. Yeah, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>a great approach shot either, and it could have been

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<v Speaker 4>in the bunker. Like Brooks was just not sharp. I

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<v Speaker 4>will say I have quite a few notes on Ram

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<v Speaker 4>and I think his round was pretty brilliant. I know

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<v Speaker 4>it was only he only shot three under par, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you go back and click through his round, he

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<v Speaker 4>hit some exceptional golf. Show the chip the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>half wedge into number three making birdie. That was a

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<v Speaker 4>phenomenal golf shot, even the approach into four like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not an easy shot and it was conservative, like he

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<v Speaker 4>hit a kind of into the center left of the green,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was a phenomenal shot. His pitch on number

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<v Speaker 4>eight turning that into a birdie, that was a golf shot,

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<v Speaker 4>rolled in, believable shot, unbelievable shot, and there were just

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<v Speaker 4>so many The approach into fourteen obviously one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best shots of the tournament. He played really well. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>even say that the chip in eighteen Scotti, Scheffler, and Tiger,

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<v Speaker 4>their wins weren't the most glamorous the way that they finished,

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<v Speaker 4>and Rom's had the opportunity to kind of be a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit ugly too with his t shot, and he

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<v Speaker 4>turned it into a really nice par So I think

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<v Speaker 4>Rom played a pretty flawless round. Not flawless round, but

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<v Speaker 4>exceptional round.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seemed really really solid, like he wasn't hitting

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<v Speaker 3>an exceptional number of brilliant shots. He clearly didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>his A plus game for long stretches this week. For

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<v Speaker 3>long stretches he had his like B game, but he

0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.480
<v Speaker 3>managed it really well. And when I'm looking at Ram's

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<v Speaker 3>final round, I'm kind of looking at that stretch between

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<v Speaker 3>like whole seven and whole fourteen, the heart of the

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<v Speaker 3>round and his T shots. Huge T shot on seven,

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<v Speaker 3>three twenty five fair way, huge T shot on nine.

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<v Speaker 3>He hit a bad approach and that hole didn't turn

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<v Speaker 3>out well, But he hit that T shot three twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six down the hill, good position ten three sixteen, perfect position,

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<v Speaker 3>eleven three forty three, perfect position thirteen three oh seven,

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<v Speaker 3>perfect position down the left. That's an uncomfortable shot for him.

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<v Speaker 3>He got it around the corner. He was able to

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<v Speaker 3>make the the area of the green into comfortably. This

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<v Speaker 3>is just sort of bludgeting, you know, just like ball striking,

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<v Speaker 3>ball striking. And then his approaches were often just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of to the middle of the greens, sane approaches, easy

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<v Speaker 3>two putts, and on fourteen he was able to attack

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<v Speaker 3>that pen, get pretty close and make a birdie. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is the type of game that's just really really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to catch. Like that kind of performance off the

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<v Speaker 3>tee is so dominant, and he does it with seeming

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<v Speaker 3>relative ease.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally, So I have I've been digging through some gen

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<v Speaker 4>Rahm's stats because I want to give a testament to

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<v Speaker 4>how well he's played at Augusta, and I think I

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<v Speaker 4>found an interesting one for you, Garrett, So okay talking

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<v Speaker 4>to obviously like John Rahm off the tea performance this

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<v Speaker 4>past week was amazing. He's one of the best drivers

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<v Speaker 4>of the golf ball in the game. If he's not

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<v Speaker 4>number one, he's number one A one B with Cameron

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<v Speaker 4>Young and he started to put together quite the resume

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<v Speaker 4>at Augusta. So recently been working on putting together a

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<v Speaker 4>historical database of all Masters results going back to the

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<v Speaker 4>first edition of the tournament. John Ram has now in

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<v Speaker 4>his first seven starts at Augusta. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 4>many top tens?

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<v Speaker 3>He has a lot, probably, but what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>He is five in his first seven starts.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, how many?

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you think that puts him historically? How many

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<v Speaker 4>golfers do you think have done that? Five top tens

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<v Speaker 4>and their first seven starts at Augusta. Just what are

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<v Speaker 4>your thoughts on that? Who do you think is the

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<v Speaker 4>last player to do it? Like any thoughts? I know

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really putting you on the spot here. I would

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<v Speaker 4>have had no clue before I checked this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really have any clue, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>something that Jack Nicholas might have done. It feels like

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<v Speaker 3>something that somebody like Tom Weiskoff could have come out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere and done. There are a few players who

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<v Speaker 3>started off their careers really really well at Augusta. Ben

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<v Speaker 3>Crenshaw did, but maybe none of them. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>what did you find?

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<v Speaker 4>So only nine golfers have ever done it, and John

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<v Speaker 4>Rahm is the tenth. And part of what's I think

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<v Speaker 4>particularly impressive about John Rams is that, especially back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day in the Masters, it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys first seven starts, right, like if it was the

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen thirty eight edition of the Masters, like no one

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<v Speaker 4>had played at more times than the people, so could.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been like Horton Smith or somebody like that, could have.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly Ed Dudley has had six top ten finishes in

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<v Speaker 4>his first seven starts, right, Okay, the most recent player

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<v Speaker 4>to do it was Hale Irwin in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 4>So since nineteen seventy eight, no player has had five

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<v Speaker 4>top ten finishes in their first seven starts at Augusta.

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<v Speaker 4>John Rahm has now added his name to the list.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a really interesting statistic. He also has

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<v Speaker 4>a win right this year and so he joins just

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<v Speaker 4>Arnold Palmer, Byron Nelson, Gary Player, and Henry Picard as

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<v Speaker 4>being players who have five top tens in their first

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<v Speaker 4>seven starts at Augusta with a win included. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty interesting statistic and way to view John Rahm

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<v Speaker 4>within a historical context.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, got just the fact that Tiger Woods didn't do that. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess he played as an amateur for

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<v Speaker 3>two years before he won the ninety seven Masters, But

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<v Speaker 3>then I would have thought that he would have just

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<v Speaker 3>reeled off, you know, five straight top tens. But I

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<v Speaker 3>guess maybe he didn't. Maybe nineteen ninety eight was an

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<v Speaker 3>off year.

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<v Speaker 4>Tiger's first two starts at Augusta were a tied for

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<v Speaker 4>forty first as an amateur, and then he missed the

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<v Speaker 4>cut in ninety six and he finished eighteenth and ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's disqualifying.

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<v Speaker 5>John Ram There it is.

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<v Speaker 4>John Rahm is the only player since nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm putting this database to the test, So I hope

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<v Speaker 4>this is kind of a buzzer beater in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>pulling the statistic before we started recording. Somebody can fact

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<v Speaker 4>check me, but I'm pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure this is the golf record by the way that

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<v Speaker 3>you're putting together with Kyle Porter and others.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, Yes, So I'm pretty almost I'd say ninety

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<v Speaker 4>nine point nine percent sure the statistic is correct. John

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<v Speaker 4>Rahm is the first player since Taylor went in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy eight to finish in the top ten five times

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<v Speaker 4>in his first seven starts at Augusta. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's much more impactful than any other major championship venue

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<v Speaker 4>or tournament because this is the one held at the

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.840
<v Speaker 4>same course every year. So to start to put together

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 4>such a resume on the course he's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>at every year, you gotta take note.

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<v Speaker 3>So then what is it about this course that you

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<v Speaker 3>think suits John ram so well? Because when I think

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<v Speaker 3>of John Rahm, I think of like, no one's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>beat him at Tory Pines, no one's gonna beat him

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<v Speaker 3>at Oak Hill coming up for the PGA Championship. That

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<v Speaker 3>kind of course, if it's sort of wet, if it's narrow,

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 3>if there's some rough, if it just really rewards somebody

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.920
<v Speaker 3>who can bludgeon the hell out of the ball as

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<v Speaker 3>he did on the back nine at Augusta this year,

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<v Speaker 3>then that's going to be the kind of course where

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<v Speaker 3>he really thrives Augusta National. You know, it rewards his

0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 3>type of game, there's no doubt about that, but it

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<v Speaker 3>also rewards other types of games. So why is it

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<v Speaker 3>that he does so well here?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So, first of all, I guess is a hardcore

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<v Speaker 4>long iron approach test, and John Ram is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best in the world. I think I had pulled

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<v Speaker 4>a stat like six months ago. I was looking at

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<v Speaker 4>approaches between like two hundred and thirty and two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and seventy yards from the fairway, and I believe Ram

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<v Speaker 4>hits the green in that situation like eight percent more

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<v Speaker 4>often than the guy who's in second place. Like he's

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<v Speaker 4>just dominant on like a two hundred and fifty yard

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<v Speaker 4>approach shot. And I know a whole like whole four

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 4>isn't quite that long, but when you start to think

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<v Speaker 4>about which player do I want hitting my approach shot

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<v Speaker 4>on whole four at Augusta, John Ram's right at the

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<v Speaker 4>top of that list. So long iron approach absolutely. I

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<v Speaker 4>think another huge part of Augusta is that sure really

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<v Speaker 4>long and pretty wide, but when you have wide missus

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.360
<v Speaker 4>at Augusta, you get penalized. If you're in the trees,

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.199
<v Speaker 4>you got to have a pretty clever recovery shot to

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<v Speaker 4>save par. And if you're consistently putting it three hundred

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 4>and twenty yards down the center of the fairway, you're

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna have a lot of opportunities as a good approach player.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I think about a hole like seven, if

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<v Speaker 4>I picture Rory standing on the tee of seven and

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.200
<v Speaker 4>he does not hit the ball as accurately as John

0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Ram versus John Ram standing on hole seven, who's t

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.360
<v Speaker 4>shot I feel more comfortable with in avoiding trouble. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not close. I feel way better with John Rahm going

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<v Speaker 4>up and hitting that stock fade down the middle. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think there are a lot of reasons that Augusta

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 4>fits his game so well. His short game probably goes

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 4>a little bit under the radar, But John Ram is

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:20.879
<v Speaker 4>exceptional at pitching around that place. So the chip on

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<v Speaker 4>six in the final round, Yes, the chip on eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>John chip on the chip on one. It wasn't actually that.

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 3>The chip on one wasn't all that good, but he

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<v Speaker 3>made the putt for Pars so he was up and down.

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<v Speaker 4>The chip on thirteen was really good, right, So yeah,

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 4>John ram is really good. He has great hands on

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 4>and around the greens, so I think it's a place

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 4>that he's going to continue to have a ton of success.

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<v Speaker 4>And again he joined He's now the tenth player to

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 4>ever finish in the top ten five times in his

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.160
<v Speaker 4>first seven starts. So pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>So, jumping off of your point about how Augusta does

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 3>penalize wide misses, not a single time in the final

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 3>round did John Rahm hit it off the play it

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<v Speaker 3>off the tee. Those misses on two and I mean

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.400
<v Speaker 3>three wasn't really a miss, but it did trickle into

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 3>the second cut. He was still in the arena. Basically,

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 3>he was never deep in the trees. Brooks Kopka badly

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 3>pulled T shot on the first hole, badly pulled T

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 3>shot on number eight, badly pulled T shot on seventeen.

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 3>He was struggling with something off the tee. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just that he missed the fairway, it's that he

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<v Speaker 3>missed the whole corridor. He was in the trees on

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.360
<v Speaker 3>those holes and he wasn't able to get effectively back

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 3>in play. On one, he had a great scramble for

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 3>par but you know, eight he pared that hole when

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 3>he should be burning that hole in that final round

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<v Speaker 3>in that situation. Most of the time he gave up

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 3>a shot to ram in that situation and he bogied

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 3>seventeen after birding the previous two holes. So is that

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of what went wrong in Kepka's round? You know,

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 3>when you're looking when you're doing a diagnosis of Brooks's round,

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 3>how highly do those t shots rank? And what are

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 3>some of the other items that you would look at

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 3>in diagnosing what went wrong for him in shooting this

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and when we talk about why miss is being penalized,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there are people who are like Joseph Phil

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Mickelson finished in the top five and Cameron Smith has

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<v Speaker 4>given it goes here like, what do you mean why

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 4>missus are penalized? I think the way to think about

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<v Speaker 4>this is, well, if you have a wide miss, you're

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:35.199
<v Speaker 4>probably chipping. So when you get offline, you better have

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 4>a good short game, like both Cam Smith and Phil

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Mickelson do, because if you do get offline here, you

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.680
<v Speaker 4>probably have to punch it into a favorable location and

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 4>then get up and down. So I think the perfect

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 4>example here is Victor Hofland where when things are going

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<v Speaker 4>well and he's hitting the ball well, he'll be fine,

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 4>especially in soft conditions, and he can do pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he hits an errant t shot, he's probably

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna have he's gonna have to hit himself into a

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 4>location where he has a chip off a tight line,

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 4>and that's where some bogies are going to start to accumulate.

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 4>So it wouldn't surprise me if Victor Hovelin has a

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 4>bunch of finishes between eighth place and like twenty second

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 4>during his master's career. I think you're gonna see that Brooks.

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 4>I need to go shot by shot to really diagnose

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 4>everything here and like maybe look at it from a

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 4>strokes gain perspective. But he was he was just flat.

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Hit some good iron shots, like even on number one

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 4>that was a really good recovery shot, but Brooks didn't

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 4>have it, a lot of wide shots, didn't convert some opportunities.

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 4>I would need to look at his strokeskin putting rounds

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 4>in the last I'd be pretty confident it was negative

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 4>in the final round. Just didn't have it really sloppy

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 4>on nine. Just a couple things like that that Pekee

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Brooks Kopka doesn't normally do and bad.

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 3>T shots on the first three par threes, bogied all

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 3>of them, bunker on four, long on six, and he

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 3>was left on twelve and hit a pretty poor first

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 3>chip there. So yeah, I think it was sort of

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 3>all around, and he was missing a few makeable putts too.

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, the six footers, the eight footers, you know

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 3>those need to go in if you're spraying it a

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 3>little bit, and you know, he just didn't quite have it.

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 3>But looking at this performance by Koepka, though, you have

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to be impressed, and you have to start to ask

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<v Speaker 3>some questions about the sort of popular notion that players

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 3>on the Live Tour are going to regress in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of their skill sets.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil Micholson also played extraordinarily well, I'm not sure how

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 3>much we can read into that, because he'll just show

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 3>up in a major sometimes like he did a Kiwa

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and play unbelievably well after having not done anything for

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 3>like a year and a half. Patrick Reid also was

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 3>t four right. I think his performance kind of went

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 3>under the radar. He was really great this week. And so,

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 3>putting all of these together, do you think we have

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 3>to start to rethink the way that we talk about

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 3>the competitiveness of live golfers when they come to these majors.

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<v Speaker 4>I have so many thoughts on this. So for one, No,

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 4>I think overall, live performed pretty well, and I think

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 4>it was kind of in line with expectations. They had

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.959
<v Speaker 4>eighteen of the eighty eight players in the field, I believe,

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 4>and when you remove some of the old guys and

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the amateurs, they had like eighteen out of eighty. I

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 4>mean they had about a quarter of the field. They

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 4>finished with three in the top six, which is out

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 4>performing expectations sort of. They only had one other player

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 4>in the top twenty, so that kind of balances it

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 4>back out. Like, I think, they kind of performed how

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 4>I expected them to. I didn't think that live golfers

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 4>would all show up and stink. Some of them did.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Dustin Johnson played terribly. But overall, I think the narrative

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 4>that like, oh, fifty four holes isn't enough preparation for

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 4>seventy two holes I just disagree with. But one point,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 4>I was talking to a buddy of mine who's a

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 4>really good golfer, and he was saying he thinks that

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 4>maybe sleeping on the leads a little bit different on

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 4>live versus in a seventy two hole tournament, and I

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 4>think that is an interesting dynamic that is a little

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 4>bit different between live and the PGA Tour where or

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 4>PG Tour or a major where you're like waiting around,

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 4>you're the last person to tee off, you kind of

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>have the night before, feels a little different versus a

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 4>fifty four hole shotgun start tournament. I do think you're

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 4>trying to close out an event might be a little

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 4>bit different. So maybe that's something that's going to be

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 4>interesting to watch for. What's your reaction to that.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I really like that that last point, and it's really

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 3>hard to quantify right Definitely, that is just a feeling

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 3>that you have about playing a golf tournament. The tournaments

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 3>on live right now are really really really different from majors,

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 3>and so going from a live event to a major

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 3>has to be a shocking transition, whereas going from a

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 3>big PGA Tour event one of these designated events to

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 3>a major is a smoother transition. There's odds a big difference,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 3>but right now there are more similarities between a PGA

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Tour event and a major than there are between a

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Live event and a major.

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<v Speaker 4>And one thing I've thought about since the beginning with

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Live is they only have limited number of players. What

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 4>is it forty eight?

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Right? Like?

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Is it forty eight or fifty four? Forty eight? I

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 4>get confused to why not remove the shotgun start and

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 4>just have them tee off in order? It wouldn't really

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 4>extend the length of the play that much. One of

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 4>the advantages they have is that you only have to

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 4>get forty eight guys through, So if they got feedback

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 4>from Kepka, like you know what, it'd be kind of

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 4>helpful if the leaders teed off later and like that

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 4>dynamic was a little bit more similar to major championships.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Why not change it? I don't think it would fundamentally

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 4>alter the product that Live has. It wouldn't extend the

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 4>rounds that much. So I think you maybe would see

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 4>Live do this if somebody made a compelling argument, because

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 4>I actually think it's a pretty compelling reason to change

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 4>it without sacrificing on the product they've built.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it would just hurt them in terms of

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>their messaging that we're different, because the shotgun start is

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 3>part of what they're presenting as a as a transformed product. Right,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>they're saying that this is a different form of golf.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>This is golf two point zero, right, And to get

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 3>rid of the shotgun start is to get rid of

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>one of the fundamental aspects of what they say their

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 3>new product is. It's to get rid of their one

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 3>of their main innovations. And I agree with you that

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 3>it would probably be better for the players to do it.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 3>It would just be kind of hard for them to

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>do it, just as it would be hard for them

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>to extend the events to seventy two holes, right.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's fair. I think if they did it just

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 4>for the final round, maybe it wouldn't change things that much,

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 4>and it wouldn't really change the viewing experience because you

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 4>have the golfers on the same time. Yeah, on the

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 4>course at the same time that way too. But yeah,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 4>we'll see, that'll be an interesting storyline to follow, all right.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Coming up, I'll bring in Shane Bacon, who spent the

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.160
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<v Speaker 3>on masters dot Com. We're gonna do a little Master's

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<v Speaker 3>I am here with the man, Shane Bacon. Shane, how

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<v Speaker 3>you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's it's a it's a very awesome and

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<v Speaker 2>very exhausting week, you know, to be uh getting up

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>early and calling, you know, golf NonStop. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>always a lot of activity in and around the Masters,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, you're you're at such a

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<v Speaker 2>high for the whole week that when Monday after the

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Masters hits, I feel like it it's almost like when

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<v Speaker 2>you return from a Vegas trip, you know, when you

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't realize how kind of tired you are until, uh,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>until you're actually home or you're on the flight and uh,

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and so I feel like I'm on the comdown right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, your body is beginning to

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>rebel and and say, you know what the hell man?

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 2>And and you you got the pleasure of seeing my

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>three year old a couple of minutes ago, but also

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.239
<v Speaker 2>coming home to two kids, uh, three and three and

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>one doesn't really allow you much much time to go.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm gonna take some time on the couch.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, let's let's play ghost for three hours.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and let's let's relieve my spouse here for

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>for a minute.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Cindy goes, Uh, Cindy, she went and picks she had

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to run a couple of errands, and she was going

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>out the door earlier, and she looks back at me

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and said, I'm not leaving with the kids. This is

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>a really interesting feeling. You know, it's been it's been

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>eight days since I've I've been home. So I I

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>will say, you know, we give credit when credit is

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>due a lot of the time. These are the times

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>because I've done it. I've done you know, two three

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>days alone with both kids. A couple of times, you

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>know where she's gone on trips or gone on on

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, vacations and stuff. I mean she had like

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>five or six days after they went to school where

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>she had no help and nobody relieving her. And those

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>are those moments where you're like, you're a really awesome

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 2>human being. Like I think you're awesome all the time,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>but you know this is this is adding a new

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>layer to it. So you always get home and you're

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>impressed by your significant other.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 3>And now you're on a podcast with me. So we

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>will keep this segment nice and concise. But I did

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 3>want to hear from you because obviously you were calling

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 3>featured groups on the streams all week. I heard your

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 3>voice a lot. Guys did a terrific job. It's always

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 3>such a pleasure to be able to choose from a

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<v Speaker 3>number of different streams and not just see the broadcast

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>but kind of curate your experience a little bit and

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>also hear from some announcers that you really like hearing from.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy all the announcers on the streams in different ways,

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I'm curious after your stream wraps up,

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 3>usually your stream is going to wrap up before the tournament,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 3>before play wraps up, if I'm not mistaken.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 5>So the feed goes the whole day.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>So so feature groups will go you know, basically from

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 2>when the player's tee off, you know, Thursday Friday, we're

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>going to get a relatively early notable tea time because

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you know there's no coverage on CBS till later in

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the afternoon and then but it goes through basically until

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the final group is done, and typically one

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 2>of those groups going to be late. The nice thing

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>is there are two teams, so you know, Colt, Billy

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 2>and I'll typically get in there, you know, seven thirty

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>eight in the morning to do you know, at early

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>tea time that's notable. You know, we had it was

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of wild, Garrett. There were we had four groups

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 2>over the weekend at times, which is the most we'd

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>ever had. And you know it I've done, you know,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I've done you know, full broadcast and network golf, and

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it almost felt like doing that in terms of of

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 2>how much we were bouncing around and showing so much

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>golf and so many different players. But yeah, I mean,

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>it goes the whole time. So then Brian and Smiley

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>come in in the afternoon and they take us home

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean it's I mean, you know, Sunday,

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I think Colt, Billy and I.

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Were in there.

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Eight twenty eight was our was our go time on Sunday,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and we walked out of there at three pm with

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 2>with not really much much break. We'll take we'll all

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 2>three take up a ten minute walk around, so you

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>know what, we'll hit the producer. Steve is our producer.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>He's super awesome. He's a lovely guy, and he's a

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 2>really really good producer. But you know, we'll hit them

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and go, hey, we're gonna take ten minutes. And it's

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>funny they have the green sandwiches and the coolers in

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>our content center, so you'll grab a pimento cheese and

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>just go outside and you know, like soak in sunlight

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>for a minute and then it's right back to it.

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it very much is helpful that there's three

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>of us in those seeds.

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 3>I believe among the different streaming teams, you have the

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 3>holes four through sixteen Amen Corner Team, Yeah, fifteen and

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 3>sixteen team. Is there any agreement among those different teams

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 3>as to who has the best gig?

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think so. I mean, the thing about

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 5>it is.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, it pops in your head right now,

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>like something popped in my head. But then you think

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 2>about you get to watch Amen Corner and you see

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>some players going through there, and you want to watch

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>them play Amen Corner.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna flip over there.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, yesterday afternoon, after I was done

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was back at our rental house watching obviously

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the CBS telecasts on the TV.

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:54.959
<v Speaker 5>There was I think Speeth.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>And Phil We're playing fifteen sixteen, So I flip it

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 2>over there and I have that on and then and

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>there was one point early I think early on Saturday,

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 2>where I had the four or five six stream ons.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like, even as somebody that's involved in it,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm bouncing between all four and with the on the

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>range five streams. So I would say, if you want

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>to follow Tiger for the day, you're gonna watch us.

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you want to see Jordan Spieth early

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 2>in the day on Thursday and they're playing four five six,

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna watch that. And I would say all of this,

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>what's really really cool and what I think CBS does

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>an amazing job at is all of the streams have

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a different feel, do you do you

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 2>since that a bit, Garrett. I mean it you get

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to get like, you know, I own a NED. I

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>think we're an awesome team this year, you know, And

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that was fifteen sixteen and you'd pop in there and

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it was a totally different feel than maybe what you're

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna get an amen corner, and you know, to me,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>all of the different crews and they're all really good,

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and they're all unique, you know. I mean it's like

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 2>sluming and for Plank or on four, five and six.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>In terms of the analysts, they can bounce off each other.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're guys that are friends, and they know

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 2>so much about each other's golf games, and they obviously

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>know the golf course so well that I don't know

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>if there's kind of a hierarchy to which one's the best,

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's really dependent on what you're trying

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>to experience that day, in that moment.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, the different teams kind of have different vibes

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>between each other. And then also they're just commenting on

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 3>different types of golf holes, different moments in the golf

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 3>course and in the golf round, and yeah, bouncing between

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 3>those streams is one of my favorite aspects of the

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 3>modern Masters. Right this has not always been the case

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 3>with the Masters. When I was a kid, it was

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 3>all about the limitation of the coverage window. That's what

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 3>was sort of unique about it. Now what's unique about

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 3>it is the opposite, the availability of anything and everything

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and a multitude of different experiences, and it's just something

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I look forward to every year, and right now I

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 3>find myself getting a little bit sad that it's over,

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I know, you know, and then I have to wait

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 3>another year.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night, when you're a golf fan is really tough

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>because again I think for everybody watching, you know, Masters

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 2>fans going to the tournament. You know, if you're lucky

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to get a ticket any by the players come Sunday evening,

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you you're kind of exhausted because it was

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 2>so much and you put so much energy into it,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and at the same time you're kind of exhausted yet

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>hungry for it again, because you know, I was listening

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to I think it might have been the no.

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 5>Ley and up Brat pod.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Sally said, you know, he watches the ceremony

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 2>at the end because he doesn't want to lose any

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>moment of Masters week.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's kind of the last thing you can watch.

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 5>And I mean I did the same thing. I was.

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, at the rental home last night

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 2>watching you know, watching the ceremony and all that. Because again,

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the moment that ends and that stream cuts off, you

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>don't get it again until next year. And so I

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>will say I want to do give a shout out

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>though the on the rain stream. This was really the

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>first year I really got into it. And Kelly is

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 2>so good, Breed is so good, Smiley and Amanda down

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>there on the on the grounds. It's a totally different

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>experience in watching live golf. But to me it was

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 2>like I'd been introduced to a new candy where I went, oh,

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>this tastes amazing.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 5>I should have been doing this for years.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I felt like that was a lot of fun to

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>really kind of dive into before we got going on

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>our streams.

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like that's in a sort of underused

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 3>type of stream. I would like that at every tournament

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 3>because there's so much that you can talk about with

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 3>somebody who really knows the golf swing right and really

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 3>knows the players with a range stream and we see

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 3>that with the Masters every year. So getting right into

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>the first question that we got for this mail bag,

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>we're doing going to do like a miniature mail bag here,

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 3>just a few questions. I put out a call this afternoon,

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, got a few responses, a few interesting questions

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 3>that I'll just throw your way. One that came from

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Will Knights the fried egg z one? Will Knights ever

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 3>heard of them? That that ties in, that ties in

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 3>to you know what we've been talking about so far.

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Is there any part of you that misses watching the

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Masters at home as a normal fan.

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting I mean shocking that will ask a

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>good question. It's it's interesting. I was thinking about this

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>this week, you know, and I will say this, I

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about this exact thing this week.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 5>It was before we started, so I think.

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>This was on Wednesday, and I was thinking about what

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>my life used to look like in terms of this week,

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's always in my favorite week in golf. You know,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it used to be when I was writing and blogging.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I went a few times, you know, with the press pass,

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 2>but most of the years I was really blogging, I

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 2>was at home watching on TV, and I had all

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.959
<v Speaker 2>the streams going. I will say, as I was thinking

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>about that, I think what I felt extremely thankful about,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>in a very cool feeling personally, is I would watch,

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, I would turn the stream on the moment

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it came on. I would turn CBS on the moment

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 2>the broadcast came on. And now you're a part of

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>those people's experience. So now all of those people that

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 2>used to be me, that can't wait till eight twenty

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>eight on Sunday for the stream to start, or can't

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>wait till three pm for the CBS broadcast to start,

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:03.280
<v Speaker 2>now you involved in other people's enjoyment of this amazing

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>event in a very small way. I mean, you know,

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not about us, but in a weird way, you're helping,

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, present this amazing, amazing experience. I mean, it's

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the best experience in sports in my opinion, in terms

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>of as you said, there's so much available. There's so

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 2>many different avenues you can go down, you can watch

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>golf from sun up to sundown, and so it's it's

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 2>humbling and it's exciting to feel like you, in a

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>small way, are helping.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 5>That experience for a fan at home. And so I

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 5>think in that regard. No, I don't.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't miss the at home thing because I've I

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like I've kind of, in a way, kind of

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>graduated to something that I would have never dreamed of

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.760
<v Speaker 2>being able to do. And it feel like I feel

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>just so blessed and thankful to get asked to do this,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, for a third year. And so you know,

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's an eight year old kid or ten year

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>old kid at home that you know, colts making chuckle

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>once an hour, or Billie's you know, throw an inside

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>at him, you know, as they're watching Jordan' speeth, you know,

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>make birdies and bogies. So yeah, it's you know, I mean,

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>everybody always wishes for you know, the other lie for

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the old life. I don't think that's necessarily the case here.

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I think I love the seat I'm in.

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Well that's the classy answer, but I can I can

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.359
<v Speaker 3>see where you're coming from on that. It is it

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>is a real privilege to be able to call some

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>of this action. So here's the question from bo Bramhall.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 3>And I'd like to take this question in you know,

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 3>whatever direction you want to take it, because you commentated

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 3>on the first part of Phil Mickelson and Jordan's speeds

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 3>round as part of the featured group's coverage, and Bo

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 3>asks how important do you think it was that Mickelson

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>posted the minus eight number as they went to the

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 3>back nine as Rom and Kopka went to the back nine.

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 3>We can answer that question, but also just open it

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 3>up to what your impressions were of Phil Mickelson's round

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>as well as Jordan's speeds. They both shot great numbers

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday and really made some noise, and so you

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>were sort of part of that action. Tell me about that.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, you know, Speed hits it in the fairly

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 2>on one and I'd been doing some notes before we

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>got going with because they were our first group. It

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.439
<v Speaker 2>was Jordan and Phil were our first group out, and

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I was so pumped because I haven't seen much Phil

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Michlson golf, you know, Garrett, I mean, I'm a left

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>handed golfer. Phil was my guy as a kid, you know,

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was the dude that I rooted for.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>This was the guy I wanted to be.

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, it's been a very interesting last few years with

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Phil Micholson, and you know, feelings have changed a bit personally,

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>in terms of exactly how you experienced him. But I

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 2>still want to watch Phil Micholson play golf. And when

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I heard we were getting that group, I was super

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>fired up. I was I was high five and Billy

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and like, we get Phil and Jordan.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:40.399
<v Speaker 5>You know, this is great.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And Jordan was walking off the first tee and he

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>hits that iron close. And I had these notes written

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>down about twenty eighteen, and you know, in twenty eighteen

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>he was nine back in this year he's eleven back

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of the leaders and he hits it a foot on

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>one and he makes purty and then he birdies two.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And I just mentioned, you know, he shoots sixty four

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and twenty eighteen and with you know, despite the bogie

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 2>at the last, he didn't make bogie there. He literally

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 2>might have gotten in a playoff with Patrick Reid and

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, lo and behold, like two hours later he's

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 2>doing exactly what he did in twenty eighteen.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 5>He made the same amount Birdie's Garrett.

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he made nine birdies and that round in

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen he made nine birdies on Sundays.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 5>So that was cool to watch the magic of Jordan Speed.

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 2>That augusta National up close, and you know he made both

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>he made bogie both the Part three's on the first nine.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But he had all these birdies. He was hitting these

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 2>amazing shots. And it was funny because Jordan Speith made

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Phil Mickelson's game look conservative. I mean Phil was playing

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 2>just very solid golf.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean he was under under control, right, Phil Nicholson

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 3>seemed relatively under control, whereas Jordan you didn't know what

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 3>was coming next, which is what we're used to thinking

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 3>of Phil Nicholson.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean Phil was Jordan before Jordan, right, And yes,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was looking upstats before the round and

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Phil was like, I think he was tied for second

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 2>in driving accuracy for the week, which again, these aren't

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>things we typically you know, a ligne with Phil Micholson

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and he was hitting fairies, hitting greens, you sitting these

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 2>awesome shots. That win at a six was epic, you know,

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 2>and he's making birdie after birdie after birdie after bertie,

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and you really got that sense that it's probably not

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be good enough to win. But this is

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a magical situation at Augusta National on a Sunday that

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>these both guys are throwing haymakers eat each other. Garrett,

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 2>there was not much conversation between these two. I mean,

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 2>we watched them a decent amount early because they were

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>our only group. They weren't walking necessarily close to each other,

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 2>they weren't talking much. These were close people at one point,

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean it was famously, I think it

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 2>was it was Phil that called Fred Couples and said,

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to pick this nineteen year old, you know,

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and put them on the team, you know, the USA team.

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And so they've obviously had an interesting relationship. And who

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>knows what the players.

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 5>Think about Phil at this point, but you got the

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 5>sense at the shot on six that Phil might do

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 5>something pretty special. And as you know, a lot of the.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Times when these rounds happened early and they start to

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 2>make the birdies, something dumb happens. They don't birtie eight,

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>or they spin it off the green on nine, and

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 2>he just kept a avoiding those situations. And I was

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.479
<v Speaker 2>impressed with the link. I was impressed with how straight

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>he was getting the bug off ball. And honestly, Garrett,

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>it felt like thirty eight year old Phil Mickelson again,

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 2>like the way he was playing golf. And I wasn't

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>surprised with the way he finished, I mean nearly holes

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>out on seventeen and then makes that one on eighteen

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the bummer again, just like twenty eighteen was speed HiT's

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 2>the one left in the trees, And I thought, I

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 2>kept thinking, somebody has to get to nine. That's what

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking. They got to get to nine. If

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 2>they don't get to nine, it's not gonna be good enough.

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 2>And of course nine wasn't gonna be good enough either,

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 2>but I just felt like nine, with the way Rom

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 2>and kept could play the first nine, I thought nine

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>at least had an outside shot if somebody had a

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 2>bad shot.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 5>On eleven and twelve, and obviously Rom never did that.

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.439
<v Speaker 5>But it was very cool to watch those two.

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I think, Garrett, if you were gonna have me list

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 2>my favorite golfers of all time to watch, I think

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 2>those two would be in my top four. So again,

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you talk about the golf nerd and me

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and the young golf fan and me being excited about,

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, my job that day more than I already

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>would be.

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 5>It was.

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 2>It was a pretty cool Sunday to get the chance

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to kind of follow those two guys.

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, incredible pairing And to kind of go back to

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Bo Bramhall's question, if they had gotten if one of

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 3>them had gotten to minus nine, do you think that

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 3>would have started to wriggle its way into the psychees

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 3>of John Rahm and Brooks Kupka Or do you think

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>that minus eight did it that that gave those guys

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>a number to think about and that that had some

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of impact on the action, Or do you think

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>that John rom was just like, you know, yeah, I'm

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 3>going to do better than minus eight. That's not the

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>number I have to be.

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just you know, the way Rom played all

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>week and the golf shots he was hitting in the

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 2>most crucial moments of the Masters, those shots that ruin

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>your chances second into eleven, you know, the second into twelve,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting qued into thirteen. Obviously with the new

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>t getting queed into thirteen now is with a three

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 2>four five iron, not with a seven eight nine iron,

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 2>And so maybe, but just every shot Rom was hitting

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>under pressure was perfect. You know, he hit it right

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>over the bunk on twelve, right, I mean, he hits

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>exactly where you're gone to hit it on eleven. I

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 2>just feel like he was so dialed with what he

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 2>was trying to do. That The only thing I think

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 2>nine would have factored into is if the ball didn't

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 2>kick out on eighteen, because if that ball stays in

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the left and they don't find it there, Rom could

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>have easily made a double and so you know, double

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I think would have had him at nine. So you know,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would have that would have been very,

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 2>very interesting if somebody would have been at nine and

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the t shot would have stayed and not kicked out.

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.439
<v Speaker 3>I believe double would have gotten him to ten because

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 3>I think he finished at minus twelve. He made a

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 3>par Yeah, I mean, but the point is taken because

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 3>if you hit it where Rom hited off the tee

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 3>and you're at minus twelve and there's somebody in the

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 3>clubhouse at minus nine, then you're at the very least

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 3>starting to think about it, so that you know it

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>could have had some kind of impact. But it just

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.879
<v Speaker 3>would have been hard for Phil and Jordan to get

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 3>to a number. That would have really bothered Rom on

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>that back nine the way he was playing.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, so did Jordan finish at seven?

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I believe he finished at seven? Yes, so he finished

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.399
<v Speaker 3>at seven. He was tied with Patrick Reid and maybe

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 3>one other player at T four.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So there was no real way on eighteen for him

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to get to ten. So yeah, I mean, to your point,

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>ten was probably the number they had to get to.

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean he bogues both the par threes,

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the first nine, and I mean, you

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>know you don't bogie those, and honestly didn't play him

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 2>very well. He didn't wit very good shots, but you know,

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you par there and don't hit that shot on eighteen

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and maybe ten was in play. But I mean, you know,

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>we always say this, and I know it's become a

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 2>running joke on Twitter. You know, if they go out

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nine, they go out in thirty. But you know,

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 2>playing perfect golf is sixty four, sixty three. There's been

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.439
<v Speaker 2>two sixty threes in Masters history, and so these guys

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>shooting sixty five and sixty six are some of the

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 2>all time final round numbers, right, And so it just

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>shows how hard it is to do that. I say

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 2>this a lot when we're on fifty nine. Watch, you know,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 2>a guy shoots seven under on the front nine or

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>something like that at a random tour event, and you.

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 5>Go, man, that's great. He's got to make six more

0:50:58.280 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 5>birdies to shoot fifty nine.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like, when you think about that, it really changes

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 2>how impressive those types of scores are. And and again,

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean they they played, they played just brilliant golf.

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say flawles golf because obviously there

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 2>was some some ups and downs on the Jordan's speed side,

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>but it was it was damn impressive golf from Phil Nicholson.

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, like this guy's played some really

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 2>good golf in majors the last few years. I mean,

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>he wins the PGA in twenty one, and he finished

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 2>his second and the Masters in twenty three. I don't

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Phil might win another major. I mean,

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I really think he might win another

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>major championship.

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.839
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of crazy because he is capable of doing that.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 3>You just don't know when or where or how he's

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna show up, because I mean literally, he's done nothing

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 3>since Kiowa in terms of competitive golf, like it's been absent.

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 3>But that was the case also before Kiowa, and so

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 3>you just I mean it's, yeah, you don't know where

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna pop up. And but clearly he is capable

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 3>of doing what he did this week, right, he proved it.

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 3>He showed that he has the game to do that.

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 3>But he just disappears for long stretches and then comes back.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just a very very strange late career thing that,

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, I guess we've seen versions of it in

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 3>the past with like Tom Watson or Freddie Couples at Majors,

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 3>but those guys were maybe a little more consistent and

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 3>predictable because you just don't know when you're going to

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 3>get it from Phil and that's that's sort of an

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 3>interesting late career arc for Phil. So just a couple

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 3>more questions, Let's do lightning round style.

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Sort of.

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:35.840
<v Speaker 3>A couple of questions here that I thought were interesting.

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Eddie Bajak says, what is your preferred strategy on number three?

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.919
<v Speaker 3>Do you like to blast driver up, you know, sort

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 3>of to left of the green it trickles down left

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 3>of the green or do you like when guys sort

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 3>of hit that iron to the top of the hill?

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 3>What would you prefer to do and what do you

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:52.399
<v Speaker 3>like seeing?

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 2>So this was a big talking point on our channel.

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 2>We had what does Andy Johnson call him? The data

0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 2>boys or whatever.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we had that. Oh yeah, well they came for Colt.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:03.919
<v Speaker 5>It was a Colt take.

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:06.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think once they started to come for Colt,

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 2>he dug a little deeper into it because he was

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 2>john to have some fun with them. But the first

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>two days, that whole location was front left and front right,

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, Billy Kratzer, you know, made a really

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 2>really good point. He said, maybe this golf course was

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 2>designed to win. It's a three hundred and fifty yard

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 2>par four, and the other the next longest, next shortest

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 2>part four is four to forty, you know, so this

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.360
<v Speaker 2>is really the only quote unquote short par four at

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Augusta National. And he said, and when you look at

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the card and these guys are so long, it makes

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 2>them think birdie hole. Right, you look at a three

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty yard part four and you go, this

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>is a birdie hole. And he said, maybe the design

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.399
<v Speaker 2>was when the whole locations are in the front, it's

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 2>just not a birdie hole. It's not intended to be

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>a birdie hole. And so when it was front left

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and front right, we saw some really bad shots when

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 2>people pound the driver. And then what was interesting was

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 2>we saw more and more irons come out deeper into

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 2>the week, we got saw more players hitting iron to

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 2>the top of the hill when the whole location's back.

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 5>It's driver all day.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Hit driver, hit driver, hit driver, hit driver, And even

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>analytically this is probably incorrect, but I would say that

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 2>we saw more good shots, not great shots, but good

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 2>shots when there was irons played to the fair way,

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to the front left and front right hole location. Because

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>if you hit it to the top of the hill

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:23.919
<v Speaker 2>and you have one hundred and ten or one hundred

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 2>yards in, you can hit it deep and if it

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>spins back, it'll get you know, five eight feet, But

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:31.959
<v Speaker 2>if it stays up there, it's gonna be a quick putt.

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's a putt for Birdie. The theory could make

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>but you're most likely go to two putt. But when

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 2>the way I look at it, it takes five out of play.

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 2>And there were a few players this week that hit

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 2>driver on Thursday Friday hit a pitch either short and

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>it came back down the hill or blasted it deep

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and they made five and it was just such an

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>awkward shot for those players. So I would say it's

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 2>all whole location based, But would I would probably hit

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 2>iron to the front ones off the tee if I

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was playing in the Map, I'm probably.

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 5>Not going to do that.

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, interesting, you're probably not going to play in

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the Masters, saying I mean, are you?

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 5>Are you?

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, US Open qualifiers in three weeks.

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I've played one round of golf in two weeks. So

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 2>if I win the US Open, you know, I think.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that would do it. Yeah, And that's within

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the realm of possibility. Sure, I can tell you that. Well,

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, one thing related to the to the question

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 3>about three is that players are not machines. They don't

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 3>always follow the rules set out for them by their

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 3>analytics advisors, and they don't always follow the strategy that

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 3>data suggests that everybody should follow. And that's part of

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 3>the magic of a whole like three is that it

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 3>actually motivates players to use some different strategies sometimes even

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 3>if what's suggested is that one strategy really works best

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 3>on that whole. And and that's just something that I

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think enough people really acknowledge that these guys are

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 3>not machines. They don't always follow the rules. All right,

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 3>final question from our buddy car for the course the

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 3>Masters make subtle and sometimes substantial tweaks almost every year.

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I assume he means to the course, but you know,

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe also to whatever else they're doing right, whether it's

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 3>the broadcast or anything else. What are your predictions, Shane

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 3>for the inevitable changes to the twenty twenty four Masters.

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any ideas as to what should or

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:24.399
<v Speaker 3>can change next year?

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>So I thought Phil Mickelson's point about extending that thirteenth

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>tea box. Obviously they pushed it back a bit, but

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 2>having a little bit of a longer tea box back there,

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>so when it's into the wind or when it's cold

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>like it was over this weekend, you could push that

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 2>thing up to the front, take fifteen twenty yards off

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the number, and maybe give players an opportunity to go.

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I think was a really smart call by Phil. You know,

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 2>he said, basically in the third round, nobody went for it.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>It was basically a layup from every player in the field.

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 2>And he said, while the changes make a ton of

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 2>sense to make it longer, because everybody's longer, and you

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 2>know they're hitting mid irons in or short irons into

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 2>thirteen when the conditions are changing a little bit like

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>what we saw fifteen last year, Garrett. You know, remember

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:07.479
<v Speaker 2>it was into the win and nobody made an eagle

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 2>on fifteen last year. So he said, I thought that

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 2>was a very interesting take, is to kind of maybe

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 2>make that tea box just a little longer, where you

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>could maybe play at it five twenty five and not

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>five forty five when you know, the wins into the

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 2>players or whatever. I found that smart, and I'll be

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>very interested if you know, if Augusta, you know, has

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>any ideas or thoughts about doing something like that, because

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 2>when the conditions are perfect, play it back. And I

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 2>thought it was brilliant this year. I love the changes,

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 2>but I still want to see players, you know, at

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>least capable of going forward if they wanted to, even

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 2>if that means everybody going forward hit sit in the creek,

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 2>at least they go.

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:42.800
<v Speaker 5>So I thought that was really smart. I'm trying to

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 5>think of anything else, you know.

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I've always wondered if there was an opportunity to make eighteen.

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 5>A little longer.

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know the thing about eighteen is I love

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 2>the fact that if you hit a straight drive, it

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>goes in those bunkers, you know, And I don't want

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to take that away. I mean, they obviously made the

0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>initial changes because Tigers just hit it over all the

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 2>bunkers when he was winning, you know, in ninety seven.

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>But I was wondering about that, is there any opportunity

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 2>to make that hole, you know, a little bit longer.

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And then the only other thing I was thinking is,

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and this probably goes against, you know, all the ideas

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about three. I was wondering if there

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:18.439
<v Speaker 2>was ever any idea about having it where that hole

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 2>one day could play three thirty, you know, and again

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 2>put it in the hardest spot, probably that front left

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 2>hole location, right, because if you hit it over that green,

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it's it's.

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 5>Tough too, right, So if you're short, it's tough, deepest tough.

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You could ship it down the hill and have it

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 2>go off the front and all of a sudden, maybe

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you're making six. But we saw I think we saw

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 2>one player hit it on the green, you know. I

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 2>think Nieman hit it on the green maybe on Friday.

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like since it's the only short

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 2>hole Augusta National, and having that is just an outside

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 2>option for a player that's very, very long, I think

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 2>it would be kind of cool one day to see

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 2>if it was actually legitimately drivable. I asked Cameron Young

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Ripple one one day we had him on the coverage

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and right was the standing over the tea. I said, cold,

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 2>can he get there? And he said, I don't think

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he can get there. You can get close, but.

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 5>He can't get there.

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>And he smoked one, I mean absolutely roasted one, and

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it landed fifteen yards short of the green. It rolled

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>up almost to the front of the green. But as

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that slope catches everything, you know, it came off the

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 2>slope and it was still kind of in that similar

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>catch area and I was just wondering was that shot happened.

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I went, it would be pretty interesting if that was

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>ever something that was thought up. And maybe again, maybe

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that goes against everything the third hole is, but it just,

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, as a person that always loves the idea

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>of players maybe giving it a go occasionally on a

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 2>part four, I've always thought that that would be something

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to be cool one day, you.

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, open up the possibility that they could go

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 3>long like the tenth at Riviera, because we don't see

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 3>players going long of that green off the tee. It's

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit too far for that to be

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 3>a viable option. So we see the very best drives

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 3>just sort of hanging up on that slope on the

0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 3>right and offering that nice little pitch into the green,

0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 3>but rarely do we see them actually drive the green.

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I saw Phil's comments about thirteen to two. I think

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 3>that's interesting. Obviously, flexibility in teeing areas is not the

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 3>specialty of Augusta National. They like having their two tees,

1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 3>their championship tees and their members' tees. You know, when

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 3>players weren't really going for it on the heavy weather days,

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 3>there were still eight players that I counted. I was

1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 3>deep in these stats this week. There were eight players

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 3>who went for it in the third weekit which is

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:30.960
<v Speaker 3>not much, but there were some players who were still

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 3>capable of getting there. And so that distance that they

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:36.880
<v Speaker 3>found for that hole, that length that they found for

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 3>that hole was pretty darn spot on, considering that they

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 3>don't have much flexibility. So you know, I thought that

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 3>it worked. But yeah, I mean, could they build a

1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:47.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of runway tee there and get it a little

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 3>bit shorter on the days when they need that. That's

1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:54.160
<v Speaker 3>a suggestion that I could see them reasonably implementing. I

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 3>don't doubt that that's something that would be on the.

1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 5>Table, Garrett.

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.680
<v Speaker 2>So out of eight out of I was on Saturday,

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 2>So that had been fifty four players, right, because fifty

1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.800
<v Speaker 2>five made the cut and then Tiger w DD, So

1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 2>that's eight of fifty four. What do you think is

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 2>your perfect number for go or don't go on a

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.440
<v Speaker 2>par five? Because you know, we don't see don't go.

1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Par five's hardly ever, But what do you feel like

1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:16.760
<v Speaker 2>is the perfect number? Because I don't think it's half.

1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I think half might be too many, eight might be

1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a little too short in terms of the players that

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 2>are able to do that. What do you feel like,

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 2>as a golf fan and somebody that obvious pays a

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:28.120
<v Speaker 2>lot attention to this stuff would be the perfect kind

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:29.280
<v Speaker 2>of go don't go number.

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is a cop out answer, but for me,

1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>it really depends that there just is no perfect number.

1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I think if we talk about a perfect number for thirteen,

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I've heard Trevor Immelman say seventy percent. For me, that

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.840
<v Speaker 3>might be a little high. That might be getting to

1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:47.680
<v Speaker 3>where you know, we expect guys to go for it,

1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:50.320
<v Speaker 3>and the only situation when they don't go for it,

1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:51.720
<v Speaker 3>is if they hid it in the trees on the

1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:53.360
<v Speaker 3>right or if they hit it in the creek on

1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:55.440
<v Speaker 3>the left. And I think that that's the place that

1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:58.880
<v Speaker 3>we got to in the past several years with that hole,

1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.160
<v Speaker 3>where everybody went for it except if they just hit

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.520
<v Speaker 3>it in some kind of hazard, and I think that

1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:06.440
<v Speaker 3>that makes the whole less interesting. I think that you

1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:11.000
<v Speaker 3>need some situations where players are laying up from the fairway.

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:13.800
<v Speaker 3>So looking at these stats that I gathered this week,

1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:16.600
<v Speaker 3>looking at a bunch of shot trackers, the percentage who

1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:20.000
<v Speaker 3>laid up from the fairway in the first round was

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:25.120
<v Speaker 3>nineteen percent, second round twenty eight percent laid up from

1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:29.520
<v Speaker 3>the fairway, Third round seventy eight percent laid up from

1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:33.360
<v Speaker 3>the fairway, so very different, and then fourth round forty

1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:36.560
<v Speaker 3>percent laid up from the fairway. The go for it,

1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:41.280
<v Speaker 3>you know percentages when the weather was good, it was

1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:45.720
<v Speaker 3>between fifty and sixty five percent going for it. For me,

1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 3>that's a good range for that hole, and I feel

1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:52.520
<v Speaker 3>like I'm willing to take the cost of unusual weather

1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:55.800
<v Speaker 3>days turning that number into like, you know, ten percent

1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden are going for it. That's kind

1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:00.720
<v Speaker 3>of okay with me, but I can understand and why

1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.200
<v Speaker 3>there would be people who would say, you know, the

1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:06.440
<v Speaker 3>hole becomes a little more boring on the days when

1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:10.640
<v Speaker 3>there's weather because just almost everybody lays up and seeing

1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:14.520
<v Speaker 3>guys lay up one after another. Just from a viewing experience,

1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:16.840
<v Speaker 3>if you were standing on that hole all day, you

1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:20.440
<v Speaker 3>might be a little bit disappointed in that, especially if

1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:23.400
<v Speaker 3>the gopher it attempts don't turn out to be super exciting.

1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:26.560
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. From my perspective as a golf nerd,

1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I kind of liked the variability the days when it

1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:32.480
<v Speaker 3>was really hard to go for it, and when guys

1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 3>did go for it, it was something exceptional, it was

1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:38.840
<v Speaker 3>something special, Whereas on the days when the weather was good,

1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:41.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, we were looking at like about half of

1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.440
<v Speaker 3>the field or a little bit more going for it.

1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:46.280
<v Speaker 3>And I also like that because it takes a darn

1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:49.760
<v Speaker 3>good drive to get in position to go for that green.

1:03:50.200 --> 1:03:52.520
<v Speaker 3>On Sunday at the Masters, it really does, and a

1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of guys ended up in the water on Sunday,

1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:58.280
<v Speaker 3>About twenty percent of the field ended up in the creek, amazing,

1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:00.600
<v Speaker 3>which was just something we haven't seen while.

1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So to that point, because that's a really I think

1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:05.640
<v Speaker 2>your point is is totally right and I couldn't agree

1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:08.320
<v Speaker 2>with you more. You know, last year fifteen, we didn't

1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:09.959
<v Speaker 2>really get to see how fifteen was gonna play because

1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it was into the wind the whole week. Hey, and

1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:13.520
<v Speaker 2>like I said, nobody made egle. But and I wrote

1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:16.360
<v Speaker 2>this on Twitter. You know, when you go to Augusta

1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:18.720
<v Speaker 2>National and you see that fifteenth green and you see

1:04:18.760 --> 1:04:21.120
<v Speaker 2>it in person, I always say the two smallest things

1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>in golf when you see it in person is the

1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:26.040
<v Speaker 2>fifteenth green at Augusta and the pond on eighteen at

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<v Speaker 2>Torrey Pines. Like, when you see him in person, you go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, it looks like, you know, the pond

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<v Speaker 2>a Tory looks like it's you know, this massive, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, great lake. And then you get there and

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<v Speaker 5>it kind of looks like, you know, it looks like

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<v Speaker 5>something that you would jump into. I mean, it's so tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>And then fifteen green at Augusta, when you see it

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<v Speaker 2>in person, you go, dudes, go for this, are you

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<v Speaker 2>kidding me?

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<v Speaker 5>It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Well that green looks crazy and because especially you see

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<v Speaker 3>the water in the back too. Yes, you see that.

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<v Speaker 3>You see the Yeah, I mean it looks it's pressed up.

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<v Speaker 3>The green is pressed up. It looks like an island.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so intimidating.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there are like pro golf is so

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because like John rum four putted a hole and

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<v Speaker 2>hit a ninety yar drive this week you won the

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<v Speaker 2>Masters by four.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, these guys everybody thinks they hit every.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot perfect, and they hit everything perfect, and they never

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<v Speaker 2>miss putt, and they're very good at golf. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they hit a lot of terrible golf shots, and I

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<v Speaker 2>praise the pro golfer and it shows how good they

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<v Speaker 2>are at golf. To me, one of the biggest examples

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<v Speaker 2>of this is the second shot at a fifteen. That

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<v Speaker 2>these guys can hit fairway woods onto the green and

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<v Speaker 2>hold it, that they can hit three irons onto the

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<v Speaker 2>green and hold it. There are certain places around golf

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<v Speaker 2>that when you see the way these pros can pull

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<v Speaker 2>golf shots out relatively consistently, it is mind boggling that

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<v Speaker 2>you would go for that green under pressure, that you

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<v Speaker 2>would go for that green when you already have a

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<v Speaker 2>great round gooing, and the fact that you pull that

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<v Speaker 2>shot off and I would say that thirteen is getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of that, which is so cool that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, to take it on in tough conditions

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<v Speaker 2>and to pull the shot off and hit it in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the green and give yourself thirty feet

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<v Speaker 2>down the hill for eagle takes a what was it

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<v Speaker 2>a momentous decision or whatever the term may be.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a big swing now for these players to

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<v Speaker 2>pull off. And I've always felt that about fifteen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Sergio had eight iron in in twenty seventeen. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to be the case anymore. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think Sam Bennett, you know, like one of those first

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<v Speaker 2>few rounds had like two fifty six into fifteen hits

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<v Speaker 2>three wood on the green.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, People just that have never been there don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>how impressive that is and how hard that is to

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<v Speaker 2>pull off and how absolutely dialed your shot has to

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<v Speaker 2>be to land there and stay there. And the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that thirteen is back to a little of that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be easier than fifteen because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play shorter. But it's a lot of fun to

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<v Speaker 2>see those golf shots into those two par fives, because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of bad stuff can happen when you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get cute, and a lot of good stuff can

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<v Speaker 2>happen when you pull the shot off.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I have nothing to add to that. That's really

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<v Speaker 3>well put. So Shane, thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast. I've kept you longer than I said

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<v Speaker 3>I would, so enjoy your time at home. Appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>doing this with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's Garrett. You know it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You leave, you leave the Master's week, You're tired, you know, you're,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, you kind of have that Vegas come down.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is an enormous feeling and I can sense

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<v Speaker 2>it from so many people that are involved in what

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<v Speaker 2>we're able to do and lucky to get to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's this enormous sense of real pride and it

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<v Speaker 2>really feels like this big team coming together to be

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<v Speaker 2>a very very small part of this incredible tournament and

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<v Speaker 2>incredible sporting event.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be beaming for two three weeks after this, just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's such a cool week and it's my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>week of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, to the Will.

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<v Speaker 2>Knights question, you you truly are kind of pinching yourself

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<v Speaker 2>when you get to say welcome to the two you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty twenty three Masters Tournament, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get in text from some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that text you, it's it's a very you feel very

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<v Speaker 2>blessed to be a part of it, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>lucky to get to do this. So I will be

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<v Speaker 2>I will be tired today, but I will be reflected

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<v Speaker 2>on a lot of positives.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, thank you, Shane. One more quick break and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come back with Joseph Lamanna to talk about the

1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:25.160
<v Speaker 3>storylines we're tracking this week. I want to take a

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<v Speaker 3>We had daily blog posts. One of those posts was

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<v Speaker 3>an architects roundtable where we basically just invited on three

1:08:47.920 --> 1:08:51.040
<v Speaker 3>architects to talk all about Augusta National, and they ended

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<v Speaker 3>up saying stuff that I hadn't really noticed before or

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen said before. Just from their perspective as architects.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so interesting to see what they saw and

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<v Speaker 3>what they thought was important in Augusta National. And then

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<v Speaker 3>in addition to that, we did a Master's Pool where

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<v Speaker 3>basically people just chose a bunch of players, we added

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<v Speaker 3>up the scores and saw who won. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're back with Joseph to talk about storylines

1:09:45.640 --> 1:09:50.240
<v Speaker 3>that we are tracking right now. Joseph, what is your storyline?

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<v Speaker 4>My storyline for this week? I don't want to repeat

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<v Speaker 4>one that I gave you last time, which has to

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<v Speaker 4>do with players trying to get into the top fifty

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<v Speaker 4>for the FedEx Cup standings for next year. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be really interesting thing to watch. So players

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<v Speaker 4>like Billy Horschel, who are outside the top one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>FedEx cut points, are they going to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>qualify for designated events? But to kind of cheat here

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe use a second one that I think is

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<v Speaker 4>really the main storyline is Rory McElroy withdrawing from the

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<v Speaker 4>RBC heritage this morning and what does that mean. He

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<v Speaker 4>definitely he could have an injury or something like that

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<v Speaker 4>could be totally legit, or he could have something going

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<v Speaker 4>on in his personal life that's totally private. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning of the year, we were told players could

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<v Speaker 4>only skip one designated event, and this is now the

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<v Speaker 4>second event that Rory McElroy's skipping. So again, there could

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<v Speaker 4>be a number of reasons for why he's doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it introduces some questions around the PGA Tour's ability

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<v Speaker 4>to build a schedule and to build a system that

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<v Speaker 4>provides the proper incentives. I think this is another example

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<v Speaker 4>of that where if the penalty is missing out a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit on his Player Impact Program funds, which that

1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:00.360
<v Speaker 4>might be the penalty here, then why do we have

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<v Speaker 4>the Player Impact Program? Something that I've already like, I've

1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:04.880
<v Speaker 4>been a vocal opponent of this from the beginning. But

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<v Speaker 4>if that's not working, if that's not providing the proper incentive, like,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to re examine some things here. So I

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<v Speaker 4>do think it's notable that he withdrew from the RBC Heritage,

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<v Speaker 4>the second designated event that he's missing this year. Any

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<v Speaker 4>reaction to that, Garrett.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Rory is the guy who in that last

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Full Swing was saying, we've all gotten a

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<v Speaker 3>little soft. Every other kind of athlete has to show

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<v Speaker 3>up to certain events, why shouldn't golfers have to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same, And now here he is missing two designated events.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know the reason that he's missing the

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<v Speaker 3>Heritage this week. I'm sure that there is some legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>explanation for it, but we haven't heard it yet. And

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<v Speaker 3>the explanation for missing Kapalua wasn't that he was physically unable.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just that he didn't want to play that event.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not one of the events that he likes to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's the same with the Heritage, because

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<v Speaker 3>that golf course at face value, would not seem to

1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:04.600
<v Speaker 3>suit his game very well. And so if that's the

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<v Speaker 3>reason that he just doesn't want to play the event,

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<v Speaker 3>then fine, But I think it demonstrates how difficult it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be to get players to show up to

1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:19.280
<v Speaker 3>these designated events in the way that the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 3>is saying that they will. The whole difference with the

1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:26.680
<v Speaker 3>designated events is supposed to be that we can predict

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to play in them, but it seems to

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<v Speaker 3>me that those incentives just aren't really working already this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Next year, the incentives are going to be even lighter.

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<v Speaker 3>How are these going to be different from WGCs, where yes,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of top players showed up for those, we

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<v Speaker 3>could rely on a really strong field. But we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>rely on the same players showing up to every WGC

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<v Speaker 3>because even if the purses were big, even if the

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<v Speaker 3>field was small, then if players wanted to skip the WGC,

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<v Speaker 3>then they would for whatever reason that they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>skip it. Jordan Speed was also talking this week about

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<v Speaker 3>how man I've played a lot of golf recently. I've

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<v Speaker 3>played a lot of golf leading up to the Masters,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it might have hurt me this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that players are going to be looking at

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff and picking and choosing the designated events that

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<v Speaker 3>they play in, and that's going to take away a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of this program's appeal. To me at least,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know would you agree with that totally? And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be a broken record here, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care. The way to do this is to incentivize

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<v Speaker 3>them naturally. No forced incentives. Don't stipulate they have to

1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:37.280
<v Speaker 3>show up certain places. You have to have a special

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<v Speaker 3>Tour Championship and the only way to qualify has to

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<v Speaker 3>be through the designated events. If the Tour Championship becomes

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<v Speaker 3>prestigious enough, they'll want to show up at the designated events.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how you create this incentive structure. And some

1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of the counter arguments to it, like I have responses

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<v Speaker 3>to those right, Like you can separate the concept of

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<v Speaker 3>qualifying for the PGA Tours status versus playing in the

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<v Speaker 3>Tour Championship, Like I don't think it should be that

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<v Speaker 3>there should be thirty players in the Tour Championship. But

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<v Speaker 3>part of the reason it is is because finishing in

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<v Speaker 3>the top thirty comes with some other benefits, like qualifying

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<v Speaker 3>for a certain number of events the next year, getting

1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:18.600
<v Speaker 3>into augusta like, I think we need to decouple qualifying

1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:22.080
<v Speaker 3>on tour means from what participating in the season long

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<v Speaker 3>championship means. Same thing for the player impact program, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's clearly not working. If Rory doesn't care that much

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<v Speaker 3>enough to participate in the events that he's willing to

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<v Speaker 3>take a little bit of a penalty, All right, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the solution to that?

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<v Speaker 4>I think? I think the solution is an All Star

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<v Speaker 4>Weekend that's fifty percent fan vote fifty percent performance based. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Tiger Woods will play in it because he'll get the

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<v Speaker 4>fan vote, and it incentivizes engagement the same way that

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<v Speaker 4>the player impact programs trying to incentivize engagement. And another

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<v Speaker 4>a player like Tom Hogi or Kurt Kiddiyama who's having

1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.000
<v Speaker 4>a really good year but maybe wouldn't win the fan vote,

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<v Speaker 4>that's how they would get into the All Star Weekend

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<v Speaker 4>and do some kind of skills challenge. I just think

1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:07.920
<v Speaker 4>there are more elegant solutions to what the PGA Tour

1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.360
<v Speaker 4>has put out, And these are the symptoms. Rory withdrawing

1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:12.479
<v Speaker 4>this week is a symptom.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to think through what the incentives are and

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<v Speaker 3>what actually motivates these guys, I think that the prestige

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<v Speaker 3>of an event like the Tour Championship, if it were

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<v Speaker 3>a proper Tour Championship, would be a great incentive. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what not a very good incentive for most of

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<v Speaker 3>the top players is is money. You know, is perse

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<v Speaker 3>money that they're not guaranteed necessarily. And so yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>has to be thought through for sure, because we're already

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<v Speaker 3>seeing it kind of come apart at the seams. And

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<v Speaker 3>if we can't rely on the top players showing up

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<v Speaker 3>to these events, what's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>And to that point, they're kind of framing branding twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three is a bridge year. I'm just gonna say

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<v Speaker 4>it now. I already see the same issues in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four, and I know you've also voiced those, Garrett,

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<v Speaker 4>like why show up to some designated events versu non

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<v Speaker 4>designated event? Those issues are going to persist into twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four. It's because they have failed to build the

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<v Speaker 4>proper infrastructure. So we will see how it goes. What's

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<v Speaker 4>your storyline for this week, Garrett.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to keep mine brief because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that is probably the most important one for people to

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<v Speaker 3>focus on. But I'm just wondering if LIV does gain

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of momentum over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they had a few players have really good showings

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<v Speaker 3>at the Masters. I think that whether that matters is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be proven in the long run. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure that it definitely will. But one thing that is

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<v Speaker 3>coming up is the event in Australia. It's at an

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<v Speaker 3>excellent golf course or what appears to be an excellent

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<v Speaker 3>golf course in the Grange. It's in Adelaide, a real city,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, It's not out at one of these kind

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<v Speaker 3>of random venues in the middle of nowhere that people

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<v Speaker 3>aren't going to be able to get to. There's probably

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a nice, big crowd there and I

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<v Speaker 3>could imagine it being a very successful event. And so

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<v Speaker 3>if LIVE is going to pick up a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of steam in the next couple of weeks, then I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder whether this event in Adelaide is going to do

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<v Speaker 3>it now. It starts on April twenty first, goes through

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty third, and so that's this month. And so

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<v Speaker 3>if there is a little bit of positive momentum that

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<v Speaker 3>LIVE has from these great performances by Koepka, Michelson and Reed.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it seems like that could be maintained through the

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<v Speaker 3>event in Adelaide, and perhaps we could see Live turn

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a corner here, because like this

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<v Speaker 3>year has been really really bad for Live, I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's no other way to see it, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just wonder if that's going to appear to turn

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<v Speaker 3>around a little bit over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Jared, I have one question for you. I'll be brief.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was a really interesting point. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was on a Frida Egg podcast that you did

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<v Speaker 4>where you talked about how the schedule wasn't built particularly

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<v Speaker 4>wisely for Live this year, like not starting in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States was a little bit of a head scratcher,

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<v Speaker 4>like starting at Mayacoba, which was really sleepy. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess my question to you would be, what's the most

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<v Speaker 4>exciting Live event this year? And is it not Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems to me like in theory, this would be the

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<v Speaker 4>most prestigious, the biggest live event. Am I correct about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this one is going to have the

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<v Speaker 3>most organic interest in the location where it's held. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>looking at this schedule, my eyes immediately went to Australia

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought like this could be a pretty big

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<v Speaker 3>deal if this event really really works and Australia rallies

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<v Speaker 3>around Live and it's hero Greg Norman and Cameron Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it just seems like this is a high

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<v Speaker 3>potential market for this tour in a way that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma going to Oklahoma for an event that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be before the PGA Championship, or going back to single

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<v Speaker 3>the Green Brier, Yes, exactly, the Greenbrier. Who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>really care about that? I think they're going to Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 3>going to this golf course, having the crowds that they're

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<v Speaker 3>likely to have. This seems like the biggest moment for

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<v Speaker 3>Live in this calendar year, and if it works well,

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<v Speaker 3>that could mean something. I'm not sure it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>mean a lot, but it's something to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally agree. And if they moved like the season end

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<v Speaker 4>finale to Australia, that wouldn't surprise me. That could be

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<v Speaker 4>pretty cool. So I'm with you. That's a great storyline

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<v Speaker 4>that you picked up on.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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