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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, hello call it crew, Hello, Camilla, Hi, Jessica.

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Speaker 3: My favorite time of the week.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I really look forward

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: I think about things all the time where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: hold that thought, don't even process that thought anymore, wait

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Speaker 1: to talk about it with Kamila.

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Speaker 3: We do. We do this on the phone too, where

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Speaker 3: we call each other and you'll start telling a story

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't want to hear it, don't anymore.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about this on the pod, and I do

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Speaker 3: feel like I want to start the show by saying,

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Speaker 3: because I absolutely geeked out. Yahoo just had this little release,

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Speaker 3: this article saying that they're top They're six top celebrity

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Speaker 3: podcasts that they're really enjoying listen to listening.

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Speaker 1: And no, well, I think that the exact words were

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Speaker 1: because I think that it's important to explain why we

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Speaker 1: felt the power it was the top six celebrity podcast

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Speaker 1: that we can't stop listening to.

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Speaker 2: Yes, can you think of a better compliment?

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Speaker 3: I cannot? And I feel like and temmy how you

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Speaker 3: feel I read it and I felt like it wasn't

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Speaker 3: just us because our podcast includes This is what I

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Speaker 3: love so much about this, it includes you guys. Are

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Speaker 3: call it community, we call it crew, and so you

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Speaker 3: guys are also part of listening to this podcast. You're

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Speaker 3: writing us in, you're being vulnerable, we're sharing funny moments,

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Speaker 3: I felt like it was an article for us, like

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Speaker 3: acknowledging all of us, and I just thought that was

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Speaker 3: so amazing. I geeked out.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I felt a very big flush

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Speaker 2: I was very excited. I also just feel like there's.

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Speaker 1: So much more to come, so I can't I can't

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Speaker 2: Love them all.

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Speaker 1: How's your week, Ben, I'm still you know, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: the summer of it all. We've sort of established a

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Speaker 1: groove though we've got the campser they've been locked in.

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Speaker 1: We're locked into the camps. Yeah, and then I have

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Speaker 2: And I've started working out again.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they always tell you, all the scientists

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Speaker 1: and people who know things, you know, how when you

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Speaker 1: work out, you not only it's not just good for

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Speaker 1: your body, but it's also really good.

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Speaker 2: For your mind.

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Speaker 1: And I always go, yeah, of course I know that, whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 1: But I have to say today I went to a

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Speaker 1: class that was really really hard, and I was sweating

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Speaker 1: all the things that they tell you happen scientifically within

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Speaker 1: your body. And so I'm here to say anybody who's

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Speaker 1: do it, because guess what, there's some happy there's some

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Speaker 2: And all that I finished, it was like I could

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I loved reform a pilates and then the

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Speaker 3: they were like, hey, we take this class in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: So that's my excuse for not working out.

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Speaker 3: Then, No, I have some weights at home. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: of it. I My week is I'm making over the summer.

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Speaker 3: I'm done. Oh I'm done with it. And can I

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Speaker 3: tell you something. I was so excited I walked into

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Speaker 3: Joanne Fabrics. No, this is not an ad for Joanne Fabrics.

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Speaker 2: Let's just put press pause on Halloween. We're gonna come

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Speaker 1: So, just like my minority report helicopter pilot situation, you

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Speaker 3: To us on my happiness.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pause your happines. But I'm gonna bring you

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Speaker 1: even greater happiness. Are you ready as to what we

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Speaker 1: have here today? Guess who's joining our little community. Guess

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Speaker 1: who's jumping on board becoming part of the crew? Skuyler Aston,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. I'm so excited because I don't know him.

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Speaker 3: He is the best real close. Yeah, we got and

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Speaker 2: We digressed.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about being excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna talk to him about a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna let him in, Skyler Aston welcome to call

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Speaker 3: it what it is, welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I have not seen so excited.

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Speaker 3: We're so excited. I can't The last time I saw

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Speaker 4: The Saddest and we made that cute little video with

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Speaker 3: Actually, can I tell you, I feel like Skyler started

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure, but these eight year old all

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Speaker 2: I'll just do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Now when I see you do it, I get fomo

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Speaker 4: because I'm like, I can't even do this anymore. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew where to find.

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Speaker 4: Her, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Slash that badge, get on in there.

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Speaker 4: I do have a bunch of their numbers. I could

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Speaker 4: call them. I just start like.

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Speaker 3: Your social media manager. Okay. So for people that have

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Speaker 3: Grey's Anatomy, Skyler came on to play Joe Wilson, my

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Speaker 3: four ish. I did not known each other before, and

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Speaker 3: it was instant love for me at least Skyler. No,

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Speaker 3: So we just clicked instantly, and in fact, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I loved that you used to do that.

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Speaker 5: I was I'm by the way. I was down to

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Speaker 4: Can we keep them?

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Speaker 5: And I I had it was an absolute delight of

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Speaker 3: And I had said to them, you've got to bring

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so now they were like Todd.

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Speaker 4: Killing two birds with one story. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Jessica did not work with you on Grace. However,

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Speaker 2: So you guys got to work together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have.

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Speaker 2: Got so much spit. Yeah, so much spit, and I

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Speaker 2: down for it. I bought it all. I loved that

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Speaker 1: I would sing and dance in my own kitchen, in

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Speaker 1: So I'm pretty much a musical theater nerd, and I

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Speaker 2: And I also watched the documentary.

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Speaker 1: It was so much fun to watch, and I felt

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Speaker 2: What I well.

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Speaker 1: Also, as this happens obviously when people watch anything where

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Speaker 2: So when I watch it, I'm so moved by it,

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Speaker 2: and I just loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it,

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Speaker 4: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a very like raw and emotional

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Speaker 4: So for that expression came from such a real place,

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Speaker 5: One of the few times where it wasn't like adults

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Speaker 4: On like some billy Joel or something like that.

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Speaker 3: That, yeah, I want to know about the casting process

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Speaker 4: Okay. So I joined it when I was like sixteen.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was done. It was done because that's

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Speaker 2: Who went to Brown. I didn't got to spoil him, but.

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Speaker 1: he actually has like really deep not trauma, but deep

443
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: feeling about the hilarity of feeling that he was having,

444
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: which was probably some kind of because it was sexy,

445
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: like it wasn't just sex in front of you, was

446
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: actually fucking sexy like you.

447
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: It was arousing and.

448
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 4: Then you had.

449
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 5: I mean, there was there was sex. There was masturbation.

450
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 5: I had to masturbation. I had to do a jerk

451
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 5: in a cirque.

452
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: Really just started saying masturbation out loud myself, like, and

453
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: this was on stage.

454
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: They were saying it and doing it.

455
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: Imagine imagine being the actor in it, doing it in

456
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: front of your grandparents who are finally seeing their baby boy.

457
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: On Broadway for the first time. Oh god, I had

458
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: I had to do a lot of crazy stuff and

459
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 4: and and you know, rip off the band aid. I

460
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: think we got so comfortable with the material that it

461
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: almost became kind.

462
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 5: Of fun and funny to us. Because we also we

463
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 5: sat on stage the entire show. We never left the stage,

464
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: so even when we weren't in character, we were sitting

465
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 5: right because we had audience on the stage as well,

466
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 5: on three sides, and so we would sit amongst them

467
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: and then come on and do the scenes and then

468
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 5: come off. So and there's moments in the scenes where

469
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 5: we're on stage, but we were kind of like ghosts,

470
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 5: not ghost versions of our characters, but kind of like

471
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: commenting on the show a little bit.

472
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 4: So needless say, we get to see the audience a lot,

473
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: and we get to kind of like hear the audience,

474
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: and we know when they're going to react. And we've

475
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 4: had some instances speaking of masturbation. We've had people. I've

476
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 4: had room keys thrown at me and I was like,

477
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 4: I was like seventeen eighteen, being like, what are you doing, ma'am?

478
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: And then we were doing that, what are we doing?

479
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Where are we going? And then and then we also

480
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: had someone like in the balcony speaking of masturbation. Yeah, yeah,

481
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: Do you like.

482
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: To know when people are in the audience or not?

483
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: And I mean like relatives. I mean I was in

484
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: a couple of shows where like there were actors who

485
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: were like, I want to know when someone famous is here, Like,

486
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: tell me if someone famous is here, I want to know,

487
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: And then other people that were like you better not

488
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: and tell me I don't want to know.

489
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Where do you land on this.

490
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: Well, like a level of what is it called tradition

491
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: or when you don't want to like superstition where you're

492
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: not supposed to like those are technically the rules, like

493
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to talk about reviews, you're not supposed

494
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: to talk about who's in the house. However, of course

495
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 4: that happens, and I'm kind of like whatever about it.

496
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: I know, like Jonathan Graff is like, oh my god, wait,

497
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 5: tell me I need to know. And there's other people

498
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: I need to leave the room.

499
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: So I don't like to say it, but if I

500
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: happen to hear it, it depends who it is. Sometimes

501
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 4: sometimes it is tough because you're like, wow, I'm really

502
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 4: thinking about this person the entire show. But also it's

503
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 4: not always the ones thing. Sometimes you're like, I'm kind

504
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: of glad.

505
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: I know, not that I would give any more or less,

506
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 5: but like, oh, this is cool that.

507
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm doing this, and like Billy Joebels l here.

508
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So when I went, I went with my parents.

509
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: Know that Steven Spielberg, Okay, Capshaw were in the audience.

510
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: I did Steve mister Spielberg came backstage.

511
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: I think I was there, and I think we could.

512
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I think the internet, because it knows all we'll be

513
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: able to pick up get these pictures. I think there's

514
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: a picture of all the whole family and some of

515
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: you at least in like a stairwell.

516
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that means that we were together in that picture.

517
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh Skylerci, I've known him so much longer than you, Tameila, you.

518
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: Know I heard.

519
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were all auditioning, like for one of his

520
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 4: he had like one of his mini series is at

521
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: the time, it was probably.

522
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: Like that broad Why God, wait, that's really stressful because

523
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: if you're auditioning, that's why mass and then he comes,

524
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: then you're then you're like, fuck, I gotta stuff.

525
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's why the Pacific or whatever. It was

526
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: like some work and he's like, oh, very fantastic.

527
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Your extra marine that night.

528
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: Were like, I've never seen this before.

529
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: All the play You're not You're a child.

530
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: You changed the playbill to reflect your deep admiration for this.

531
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm having like John and Lea are having sex on stage.

532
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: I'm like.

533
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: In the hole? Yeah, like what the is?

534
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: I will never forget those.

535
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: Spielberg did have a cast recording in his hand, and

536
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, oh, that's okay.

537
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I picked one up at the box.

538
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 4: I was like, we could have got you one, like

539
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: it have to pay like it was. I thought it

540
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: was very he liked with his own Spielberg money, which

541
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: of course he has plenty of, but you know, there's

542
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: so many resources to get that to him without him

543
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: waiting in line amongst you know. I thought that was

544
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: very cool and like, well, we.

545
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: All loved it, We really, really really all loved it.

546
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: But I think but I did think about that because

547
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I always want to know. And I remember doing a

548
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: show and someone said I don't like to know, and

549
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: someone spilled the beans and they were like, Robert de

550
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Niro's here tonight and I was like, oh.

551
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know that I'll remember how to act.

552
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: I would not want to know.

553
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.

554
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 5: Our show was lit in a certain way, especially during

555
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: the scenes where you could see the first like five rows,

556
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: and they always sat the famous people in the exact

557
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 5: same seat, so you'd be it's tough man seats, it's

558
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: like fifth row on the So I used to play

559
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: piano when I would have my back turned, I was

560
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: in the back of the stage, and then I would

561
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: always pop out and there'd be a big like light

562
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: on my face and I would say one of my

563
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: first solos. And that was always when I kind of

564
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: got like to take inventory, and I'd be like, oh

565
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 5: my god, it's Tarah Banks, or like oh my god,

566
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: it's Stephen Sondheim, or like, oh my god, it's like

567
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 5: my favorite player on the Knicks or whatever.

568
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: Well, in that case, i'd want to know, Yeah, it's

569
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 3: like a jump out. Then I don't want to be

570
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 3: like woa, whoa, whoa. That's how I feel internally.

571
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

572
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: Totally, especially playing piano, being like I can't believe the

573
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: piano man is watching me play piano, right, Oh my god.

574
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: So obviously you clearly started on the younger side. But

575
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I have a question because I think that this is

576
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: like a moment in all performers lives where it's like,

577
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: you want to do it, you see it, you want

578
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: to be on stage, you want to act, you want

579
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: to sing. Clearly you developed your talent, blah blah blah.

580
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: When did you think that it was actually possible?

581
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Like, when was the moment you were like, Okay, I've

582
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, I want to do this.

583
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: But like I actually might be able to do this.

584
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Because don't you feel like Broadways more competitive than

585
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: like getting a job on a TV show.

586
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: No, it's of and hard.

587
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: No, I think it's harder because I think there are

588
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: less roles.

589
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 5: I think it depends on who you ask and what

590
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: their skill set is. I I never imagined.

591
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: My life like I know after I started acting. I

592
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: never imagined anything for myself.

593
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: Other than theater. I didn't even think TV or film.

594
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: It wasn't even I just I was only wanted to

595
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: be on stage.

596
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: So like to me, the dream was to make it

597
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: on Broadway or and I would have done anything. I

598
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: would have done the smallest part. It was only after

599
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: Spring Awakening.

600
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: Actually, when I would just now get these opportunities to

601
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: audition for things, I'm like, sure, I guess I'll try it.

602
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: And then I was lucky enough to book a movie,

603
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: which like led to many other things. But I think

604
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 5: so to me, it kind of happened really fast when

605
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 5: I was on stage, and I think it was like

606
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: my third or fourth musical because I started when I

607
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: was like thirteen or fourteen, and then it just my

608
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: life at a full one a from like sports and

609
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: stuff to and like playing a bit of piano and

610
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: singing like for friends, to like whoa.

611
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: I actually had the courage to do it, and then

612
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: I was super briitten by the bug and I just

613
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: loved it so much. And I didn't know if necessarily

614
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: I was going to do it like super professionally or

615
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: even on Broadway, but I just knew I wanted to

616
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: be on stage, like and hopefully in some sort of

617
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: a setting where I can like put food on the

618
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: table while do it.

619
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when did you start taking like singing lessons

620
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: and all that stuff.

621
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 5: I started taking piano lessons pretty early, but I then

622
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: learned when I was like thirteen fourteen, I was totally

623
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: like taught the wrong way.

624
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: I didn't learn any piano.

625
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't learn any theory, which is like the language.

626
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: I just kind of like learned the notes on like

627
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 5: one scale, and then would like I would compete in

628
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: these classical music competitions, and it's crazy because I would

629
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: like know how to read the music and work on

630
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 5: a piece for a very long period of time, but

631
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: I actually didn't know what the hell I was doing,

632
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: like playing. It's very difficult to describe going to this

633
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: teacher because I would be a lot better piano player

634
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: than I am today.

635
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: But then I just started.

636
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: I started kind of like singing at those recitals, Like

637
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: I would do like the Friends theme at my recital.

638
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: I'm that guy, just like no one to like, like

639
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: I was really doing theme songs at a piano recital.

640
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: But you didn't get singing lessons until later in life,

641
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: like like.

642
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: Fourteen, I went to this woman, Dixie Johnson, who was

643
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: like an opera person, and I learned a bit of

644
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: technique there.

645
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: And did you ever go to Eric Vitro?

646
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: I have been to Eric. Yeah, is that who.

647
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: Trained you for the musical episode Jessica? Jessica, we did it.

648
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: Skyler We did a musical episode grays Anatomy and Jessica

649
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: had a single line, but I think she trained really hard.

650
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: Do you recall that that line was Yes.

651
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: We had a musical episode for grays Anatomy and Camilla

652
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: was pointing out that when my musical talents were assessed,

653
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: I was given one line.

654
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: And you nailed that line.

655
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: I hope I did.

656
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: I hope I did. Do you still get nervous when

657
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: you go on stage or is that done for you?

658
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 4: I get, like I always get kind of by the

659
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: time I'm going on I'm ready to go. There's always

660
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: like a moment before I start rehearsals or something where

661
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: I'm like do I know how to do this? Or like,

662
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's in two weeks, like two weeks

663
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: from like literally under two weeks from today, I will

664
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: be at the Hollywood Bowl doing this like Big Blame

665
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: is Missigon thing, and I still don't know the words

666
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: for like a couple of my songs. It's this moment

667
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: where I'm a little nervous, but.

668
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: By the time I get there and like learn everything,

669
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: it'll be more like excited and more.

670
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: Not all I'm doing well. So it's it's this really great. Uh.

671
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 5: It's like a celebration of the writers of Lamez and

672
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 5: miss Igon. So we're doing a bunch of songs from

673
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: a bunch of different shows of theirs, and I'm doing

674
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 5: a lot of the big It's crazy actually because I'm

675
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: doing like a song called bring Them Home, which is

676
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: a very popular song from me song, but I'm also

677
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: doing like one.

678
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm also playing.

679
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: Like two characters at the same time in some of

680
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: the group songs because there's only like excepts, so we're

681
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: like divvying them up, and I'm just like, basically.

682
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: You're basically doing it all kind of.

683
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the Hollywood Bowl.

684
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing a whole lot of it.

685
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Awesome.

686
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: The Holly Bowl is one of my favorite places in

687
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: the whole world. I think that if you're just standing

688
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: up there, you'll feel great, I hope.

689
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: So I've done it before. I've done the Hollyball. I've

690
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: been lucky enough to do three things there. So I'm

691
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: now return.

692
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Something with Chris Carmack.

693
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: Isn't that how Yeah?

694
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: What did you do again?

695
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: He seems to do? Oh yeah, he was so incredible.

696
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 4: Into the Woods, Into the Woods, Yeah, he played Prince

697
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: and he was so funny. I played the Baker.

698
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: It was a really great cast and the original Millie

699
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 5: Sutton Foster was my wife in it. And then Amazing,

700
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 5: he's incredible, amazing. A lot of that cast, like Sutton

701
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: and this woman's here at Bougus and Patty Lapone and myself.

702
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: We did like a celebration of Stephen Sondheim, so I

703
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: got to do a lot of like some of my

704
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 5: favorite Sonheim songs ever at the Hollywood Bowl. So I've

705
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 5: they they they they cross a lot off my bucket list.

706
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: And now I'm playing Jean Valjean, which I'll never do

707
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: anywhere else. So pretty insane that I get to do

708
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 5: it there.

709
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: That's insaneciting.

710
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're in Los Angeles now, but you do

711
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: often come. So I'm in New York, Los Angeles.

712
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: That's from my fas.

713
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: That's what your family is. Los Angeles, No, no, no, New York,

714
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: New York. It is a little bit of a competition

715
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: between us Skuyler, which a little bit.

716
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: More well, I can level the playing Fiel because I

717
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: feel like I'm getting a lot of blah blah blah

718
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: energy from Capshaw regarding our friendship and relationship, but how

719
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: much she mentioned you when you were not around during

720
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: the grades. Her bestie wants to back. There was one

721
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: day where you.

722
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: Pulled up to the lot and I kind of like

723
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 5: faded into the back. I think we like kind of

724
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: mett he like hi, but it was like there was

725
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: no room for anything else. There was a lot of

726
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 5: hugging and love.

727
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that's the day that you snuck on

728
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: and I quickly ran out of the seat.

729
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I was like, bye, Skyler, Oh my gosh, I know

730
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: actually you know what, But I think back on the

731
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: day that was because we hadn't seen each other like

732
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: a long time.

733
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you went from Grays and you went to So

734
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: help you Todd. You were you are auditioning for that

735
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: when you were on the show with me, and then

736
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: you got it so annoying and you had to leave

737
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: me and and the show was super popular. So I'm

738
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: gonna be perfectly honest. I was very very shocked when

739
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: you guys got canceled. Although in this environment, it's happening

740
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: to so many shows. But I know that fans really

741
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: love that show and so anyone listening that was watching it,

742
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: are you able to say how it would have ended,

743
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: And do you have a different way you wish it

744
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: would have ended?

745
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: I know how it was always supposed to end, and

746
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: it pains me to kind of say it because I

747
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: really wanted to play it out and I didn't even

748
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: tell like my family and people like that, because I

749
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: thought it was really poetic. But it was supposed to

750
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 5: end with Todd having his own.

751
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: Child, and oh, that's good.

752
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: Finally understanding the relationship with your mom, mother and son

753
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: and parent and child. And it was supposed to shed

754
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: some light and I won't say with the last lines

755
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: of the series work, but basically there was supposed to

756
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: be a tie in of Todd becoming a father.

757
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. Is that how you would have wanted

758
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: it to end to anyway?

759
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the series could have ended that way.

760
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: There's so much there's so much like in.

761
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: Between that though that I know was supposed to happen

762
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: that I was really more excited about, not more excited

763
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 5: about just that the fun along the way, of course,

764
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: the finish line's fun. But like my character used to disguise,

765
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 5: not disguise himself fully, but like playing other characters, which

766
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: I loved as an actor to be able to just

767
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 5: like slip in and pretend to be somebody else and do.

768
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 4: A poor job too.

769
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 5: So the audience was always kind of in on the joke,

770
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: which I loved, and some great actors and actresses. There

771
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: was a flashback episode that I pitched to the to

772
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: the creator that we were going to do and see three.

773
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: There's a lot of episode ideas and characters we were

774
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: going to like have.

775
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 5: I had a bunch of love interests on the show,

776
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 5: and then there was this whole episode where they were

777
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: all supposed to kind of like show up and there

778
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: was some great interplay amongst them and just you know,

779
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: you know how it is when like something goes unfinished

780
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: and you're like, but.

781
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: We had so much more to say. I know it

782
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: started and it was very successful too.

783
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: So but it was really successful because you guys were

784
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: on at the same time, so help me. Todd was

785
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: on the same time exactly Thursday nights is Gray's Anatomy.

786
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: So what I wanted to do was promote the show

787
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: for Skylie because I love him, and I'm like, I

788
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: definitely can't it's on a rival network. And then I

789
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: would like look at the numbers on like damn they're

790
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: doing really good in that time slot.

791
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, I guess it was just one of

792
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 5: those things where, you know, they had a bunch of

793
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: shows coming in from past the strike that needed real estate,

794
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 5: and they weren't really none of their shows were doing

795
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 5: bad or even the Yeah it's an average. They're very

796
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: successful over there, and so we just they were like,

797
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: you know, and I got the news saying like any

798
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: other year, you know, it would have it would have

799
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 5: been renewed, and so heartbreaking and I believe.

800
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: That, Yeah that's totally true.

801
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: Oh good to me over there at CBS. So I

802
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: know it was a difficult decision. It doesn't make it

803
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 5: much easier to digest because it's like it almost would

804
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 5: be easier if it's almost like going a break up

805
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 5: when you're like I wish you were.

806
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, and that we want to we want this

807
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 6: to just just for some reason, the timing isn't right

808
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 6: in this one moment, and so that's kind of what

809
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: happened there.

810
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: I always feel like when when there really is.

811
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: Like a real excitement and a connection to something that

812
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: you're working on and you find out that that that's

813
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: going to stop or that's going to end, it's sort

814
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: of I say this all the time, so sorry for

815
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: everyone who hears me say it all the time. But

816
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: there's like that moment where you have to feel it,

817
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: you have to process it and all that, and then

818
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: you do have to kind of hit that reset button

819
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, so now, like what do I want?

820
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: And how does what I want match up with what

821
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: wants me? And because nobody wants to live in that

822
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: kind of disappointment or pain obviously in perpetuity, right, and

823
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: you have all these incredible things that are happening, and

824
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: you can so easily dip into so many things because

825
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: you are so multi talented in so far as you

826
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: see things and what you want. Is there some Is

827
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: there something that you've really been thinking about wanting to do,

828
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: or that you haven't done, or the calls to you

829
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: or in any kind of way you have like in

830
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: the back of your mind right now?

831
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's there's a bunch there's.

832
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: To manifest it.

833
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

834
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: I love something really big on Broadway, not even like

835
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: large scale, just like something that's big for me, like

836
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: as an actor, just something that is maybe a new

837
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 5: original show or revival of one of my favorites I

838
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: feel ripe for, like a Broadway return, And then as

839
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: far as like things I've done in the past, like

840
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 5: movie musicals or TV musicals, it'd be fun to do

841
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: some sort of like a movie musical that was large

842
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 5: in scale, like a Wicked or something like that. Because

843
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: I think I've done some fun different stuff and some big,

844
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 5: some small, some in between. I just think it would

845
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: be really fun to do something like and scale. Not

846
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: to say I just want to be in some big

847
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: Hollywood movie what actor doesn't, But I think it'll be

848
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: really cool to do something that is.

849
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: Like that kind of you know, not not even a

850
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: biopic like Bohemian Rhapsody, but something that feels kind of

851
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 4: big in scale like that where I could really lend

852
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 4: my voice and maybe that's honestly animated big in scale.

853
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: I just think it's fun to be a part of

854
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 4: something and and and lend every every bit of myself

855
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: to it.

856
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in the MoMA Mia two giant

857
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: dance boat scenes somewhere in the Mediterranean that looks so

858
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: much fun, and they're out there and talk about with

859
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: abandon and just I mean all the things. I can

860
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: totally see that for you, and evidently now for me,

861
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: I would.

862
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: Like to also be on the boat.

863
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 4: I'm also mister manifest. I'll tell you to I'll call

864
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: my shot two other shots, Okay. I also want another

865
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: series because I love the consistency of the work. I

866
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: no shit love it. And I'm not just talking about

867
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: the consistency of a paycheck though that's that's not a

868
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: bad thing either, But I just I do love taking

869
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: a character at the distance. It's really fun to kind

870
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: of like see what they're doing and just kind of

871
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: keep going, and especially if it's a character you love

872
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 4: and really resonate with. It's like one of my favorite things.

873
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: And then a huge goal of mine, and I've come

874
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: very close to this before, is making something like producing

875
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: something myself. I've written a lot and I've come close

876
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 5: to getting those things made and may happen sooner than later,

877
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: but it's something that I when I'm on set, i

878
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 5: feel like I'm very in tune to a lot of

879
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 5: the different departments. I like appreciate everyone involved, and I

880
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: feel like I feel like I could do. I feel

881
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: like I'm one of those who could. Like my friend

882
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: Rachel Bloom, she did crazy ex girlfriend and while it

883
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 5: seemed exhausting and like she was wearing so many hats,

884
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 5: I was like, I think I'm.

885
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 4: Just the psychopath to give this a shot as well.

886
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: So maybe one.

887
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: Day I want to do a romantic comedy Skuyler, can

888
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: we do that?

889
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah? Tomorrow, Yep, I love it.

890
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 3: Okay, we teased you out, we teased you to the listeners,

891
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: and the first question we got is we got a

892
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 3: lot of this pitch perfect four.

893
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the world in which.

894
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: That will ever happen? Could it happen? Would you want

895
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: it to happen? All the things I.

896
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: Can't wait till I'm doing like an interview when I'm

897
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 5: seventy eight, god willing.

898
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Everyone asks you this, but listen, this is how much

899
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: it resonated with the audiences.

900
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 4: You know, And I have a very very consistent answer,

901
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: because it's the truth. I would do it in a second,

902
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: like I love it. There's no mystery on my part.

903
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: I love doing it. I'm so grateful for everything it

904
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: brought me, for the friendships and the fans that it

905
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: brought me. It's wild.

906
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: I'd like been stopped by you know, kids of all ages,

907
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 5: and they continue to kids that are eight years old

908
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: and I'm like, you were negative three when this came out, you.

909
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 4: Know, So it's it's cool now that it that people

910
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: show it to their kids, and.

911
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: So, Yeah, I also think that while I would do

912
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 5: it if they called me tomorrow, time is also on

913
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: our side a little bit.

914
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 4: I mean, depending on how.

915
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: Much more you know, space they want to give in

916
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 5: between the movies, make us older, make it a reunion, however,

917
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: they would want to do it, but just to get

918
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 5: that group together, I'm sure it would be. It would

919
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 5: be difficult just because everyone's so busy and it's fantastic careers.

920
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 5: But I think everyone has a very special special place

921
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: in their heart for that movie.

922
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: I love it.

923
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to go back to something that happened

924
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: a couple episodes ago, and we knew you were going

925
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: to come on, and I remember Kimla being like.

926
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: We've got to ask this.

927
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I didn't know you yet, so

928
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: now I'm like, yeah, I got to ask you this.

929
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: We had a fan we had a fan question in

930
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: and the question and the question was do you think

931
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: that men and women can be only friends?

932
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have many friends that are female.

933
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: Really think about it, Sky, It's not that tricky.

934
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: I have so many friends that are that I've never no.

935
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, Okay, we're gonna get into detail a

936
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: little bit. Okay, here's the thing. Do you think that

937
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: men and women can be friends where not where like

938
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: you know, they never hook up, but like we're where

939
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: it's common that one person does not end up developing

940
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: feelings for the other person, especially if they're both single,

941
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: like and we're not talking like you're a buddy. It's

942
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: like you can go to the movie together, you can

943
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: go to dinner together, you can go to lunch like

944
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: same as you with guy friends, girlfriends, and it's common

945
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: that people just stay platonically interested in each other.

946
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Look, I think, I'm sure it happens where one can

947
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: develop feelings, and I've definitely been on both sides of that.

948
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: But I've also been able to have my friend Lee

949
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: Gerbert is one of them who's a dear friend of mine,

950
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: and we could be single or not single, and she's

951
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: just like a well, I also develop very like familial

952
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: relationships with people, so like I do consider people like

953
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: like my brother or a cousin or like my one

954
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: of my closest friends, Jess Jollis who's married to one

955
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: of my best friends, but like we have our own relationship.

956
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: I actually married them.

957
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: Like I yeah, ordained the wedding.

958
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: That was ordained, like and I think the big reason

959
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 5: why they asked me to do that was because I'm

960
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: like equally their friends, like I will shed and weirdly enough,

961
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: maybe this is just more for their marriage. But like

962
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: the she he's not the guy that's going to go

963
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: to world market and like smell all the candles with her,

964
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: and I am for sure that guy and like even single,

965
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: like I'm like.

966
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: Oh, she's like can we go to the container store?

967
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: We please go to the container store. Danny will not go,

968
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: and I'm like, can you organize my closet? I mean,

969
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe there's like maybe there is that kind

970
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: of feeling of like oh my god, it's like I

971
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: wish I had a girlfriend to do that or like

972
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, but at the time, but I think I

973
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: don't think it's I don't know, I've been like happy

974
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: single and I've also been happy in relationships, So maybe

975
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: that that you need to kind of becape yourself. Not

976
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: to say that like I'm judging those who that happens too,

977
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: because it's very natural, and again I've been on both

978
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: sides of that, but I think that maybe in order

979
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 4: to do that, you need to be a little like

980
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: content with yourself at the time so you feel like

981
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: you can have a healthy friendship and not cross that boundary.

982
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 4: I also am somebody who like, when doing love scenes

983
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: and when in those situations, make it a point to

984
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: like not, you know, across that line, because I think

985
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 4: it's like it's almost like asking somebody out when they're

986
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: at work and it's like, hey, they're kind of they're

987
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: kind of like being nice to you, and maybe they

988
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: are flirting and maybe you are like supposed to be together,

989
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, unless it's like, yeah, well,

990
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: you don't want to put them in that position because

991
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: like they're kind of behind the counter and are supposed

992
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: to be nice and maybe you're mistaking that.

993
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, we got we got our guy answer, Jess,

994
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: I got the guy. It was not what I was expecting. Skuyler.

995
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 5: By the way, I think it's like they ask most guys.

996
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: I asked to any guy, you're gonna get a different answer.

997
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 5: I hope, I hope I'm representing good ones. But I

998
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 5: don't think I'm representing all all men.

999
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean our our answers were different. Jessica

1000
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: was like, I had so many guys that I was

1001
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: friends with in college, Like we're totally not into me.

1002
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 3: We we're just friends. And I'm like, let's call those

1003
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 3: guys because I think they might have a different story.

1004
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and their wives like hate you permanently?

1005
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah, they have capshaw voodoodles.

1006
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do have a Coraffean question.

1007
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh, this one is giving me a true purchase. I

1008
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: don't I don't like this. I've been with my guy,

1009
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: my man for ten years. It will be eleven here

1010
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: pretty soon. There's no ring on my finger. He's known.

1011
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: I want to get capital letters known. No, NA, when

1012
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: do I just call it? We don't even live together.

1013
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: It's not going to happen, is it?

1014
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: He's known? What does that mean's? What was that known?

1015
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: That she wants to get married? Like it's a known thing.

1016
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: They've been together over a decade. They don't even live together.

1017
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: Is this a situation where she just needs to call

1018
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: it and move on? Is it going to happen? What's

1019
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: the guy perspective on this? Because girl perspective? Jess and

1020
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 3: I were texting last night. Really God.

1021
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 5: My one fan question to this fan would be like,

1022
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: is it known that this person doesn't want to get married,

1023
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: because I imagine you've talked about it in detail.

1024
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: I think that that is like something that needs to

1025
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: be kind of agreed on somewhat early, even if it's

1026
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: not coming around the corner. It's like, are you open

1027
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: to this because it's just like I'm hope, hopelessly or

1028
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 4: hopefully waiting. I think you know, but no, I mean

1029
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: I think like if I gun to my head, i'd say,

1030
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 4: a happen.

1031
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a weird feeling.

1032
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying and I'm not And I don't

1033
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: want to give bad advice, like you give that man

1034
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: an ultimatum, but I think like maybe if you've been

1035
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: with them, if you've been with this person for ten years,

1036
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: you just try to like have like one final super

1037
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 4: honest conversation that really doesn't feel ultimated me here where

1038
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: he's at, except that at face value, and either move

1039
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: on or keep going.

1040
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I think that's such great advice. And I think when

1041
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: you have a relationship for that long, it can be

1042
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: so intimidating to get curious because you're like, exactly what

1043
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: you said. I should already know the answer this question,

1044
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: like he either does or doesn't, right, But now I'm

1045
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: in this relationship and now my whole heart is in

1046
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: this or I've set up this idea or I think

1047
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: this is going to happen, and now I actually have

1048
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: to act. I have to get curious, and that's so vulnerable,

1049
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: especially if you think that the answer might be no.

1050
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: And I think that ultimately.

1051
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: You got to go there because partnership and connection is

1052
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: about intimacy, and you don't have intimacy if you don't

1053
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: have if you're not sharing, and you're not getting curious

1054
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: and ready for the answers that you're going to like

1055
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: and the answers that you're maybe not gonna like, because

1056
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: you can get answers that you don't like and still

1057
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: move on, but you got to get some answers.

1058
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 5: You got to have some also, try this on precise.

1059
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: I really don't like to be someone who deals in absolutes.

1060
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: I like to even like the obvious answer here feels

1061
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 5: like girl, move on.

1062
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: But I try to like I'm a libra, so I

1063
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: like to like seey So I think that like when

1064
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 4: it comes to this if you are ten years in

1065
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want to take any credit

1066
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 4: away from us and our profession of giving these of

1067
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: giving this advice. If you're asking a podcast what you

1068
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: should do, you know, then like maybe you kind of

1069
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 4: know you're searching, and I've been in that place where

1070
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: you're searching for someone to just give you the answer

1071
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: because you deep down kind of know what the answer

1072
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: is and you're almost tapped out of asking friends even

1073
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: because they're like, how many times am I going to

1074
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 4: tell you?

1075
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it's so painful?

1076
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: It is. You should feel as comfortable as possible with

1077
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 4: your partner, especially if you've been with them for ten years,

1078
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: and so like maybe you just kind of rip off

1079
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: the band aid because either way, like it's an exercise

1080
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: for yourself and you're going to learn a lot about

1081
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: yourself and it's going to kind of be not just

1082
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: like a relief, but I think you're going to like

1083
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: kind of free yourself from the situation by by having

1084
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: that conversation. It's it's like a very palferable thing to do.

1085
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 3: I also feel like if you sometimes if you walk

1086
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: away and you're like, you know what, instinctually, I think

1087
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: that this isn't going to work. That person, if they

1088
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: really do want to be with you, they'll fight for you.

1089
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? You'll see in walking

1090
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: away what the answer is. And also, I just feel

1091
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: like you always as a girl, you have an instinct

1092
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: and I'm going to out myself a little bit in this.

1093
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: I the problem with having a conversation sometimes, even though

1094
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: I fully agree they should have a conversation, is that

1095
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Speaker 3: the other person is sometimes scared to say the truth.

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Speaker 3: I've been in my twenties where I've been like, I

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Speaker 3: just need a little more time before we move in,

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00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: and I've known I don't want to move in. I

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Speaker 3: just I don't know. I know I don't want to

1100
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: move in. You're not really the one, but I'm not

1101
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: sure what I want. And then I'm just kind of

1102
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 3: leading someone along, which sucks and I hate that I

1103
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: ever did that, But that's that's when I think you

1104
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: have to trust your own instinct because you kind of know,

1105
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: and if you break up and that person doesn't fight

1106
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: for you, then it's done.

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00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yep, yep, I'm there.

1108
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: I just spung my gavel.

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00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: Here's the question, and then we'll discuss Rachel writes in

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Speaker 1: and she says, I am a fifth grade teacher, and

1111
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: the children are unwell. Ever since COVID, I've noticed particularly

1112
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: unhinged behavior. One of my students called me a quote

1113
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: certified D one dick writer.

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Speaker 2: End quote. You can't make this up. Let's talk about

1115
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: it and call it what it is.

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: Got what do you think a D one dick writer is?

1117
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: Well, oh, I didn't realize that they had.

1118
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: They got a certification for it.

1119
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 4: So the little that I know, I'm piecing it together.

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: D one is like an athlete that's in a high

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: tier of college.

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00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh it's a division one.

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: Yes, Division one.

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought it was dick one, like a D like,

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: you're one dick writer certified high level.

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00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: She might be, But I think that the implication here

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00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: is that you're certified, meaning like you're a professional. It's

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 4: meaning like, will you do this all the time and

1129
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: you are very good at it and do it mostly that.

1130
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: You're just you're good in bad like you're you're.

1131
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: So what's the dick writer part? Do you think that?

1132
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: I mean?

1133
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: I actually, by the way, I did again, I did

1134
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: my research, so I have the answer.

1135
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: A dick writer I'm assuming you're writing dicks.

1136
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: What is the pointing for this? How are you speaking

1137
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: to not only adults, but your teachers. This is insane.

1138
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: My sister's a teachers.

1139
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: It's insane. It's absolutely insane.

1140
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well, that's what she's saying.

1141
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: She's saying there, and well, I actually have a friend

1142
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: also that's a teacher. And she said that the exercise

1143
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: of teaching adolescent boys is literally one of the most

1144
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: unhinging experiences that she has in her life ever, anywhere,

1145
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: and every single day of the week. She feels like

1146
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: if she turns her back when they start laughing, she's

1147
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: like taken back to being in the cafeteria.

1148
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my pants? Am I a certified do

1149
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: you racer? Yeah? Do you dick? Writer? Is a writer?

1150
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: And writer? Is that you're on top of your your

1151
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: your mounting dicks? No?

1152
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is what I thought too. But I

1153
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: went to the teenagers and here's the answer.

1154
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: You went to Jena.

1155
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: I went to them, Oh god, if you say this,

1156
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: if you say that to my daughter, she literally like

1157
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: has a visceral reaction.

1158
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know what any of that means. It

1159
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: does I just kind of figured out some gen Z

1160
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: stuff and apparently.

1161
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: I wait, what did you just say, though, hibbitty hibbity

1162
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: gibbitty skippity.

1163
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what I mean.

1164
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: There's so many things on TikTok and Instagram like basically

1165
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: decoding language again. But here's the deal. A dick writer

1166
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: is not sexual. A dick writer is. A dick writer

1167
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: is someone who is like unctious or like insincerely suave,

1168
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: but like like keeps throwing on the compliments but they're

1169
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: not real and they're just like constantly like writing or dick.

1170
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: They're like, you're so great, You're so awesome.

1171
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Ninem for dick writing would be also something called glazing,

1172
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: which you're constantly like and it's not rising up because

1173
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a sexual connotation.

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: It's just like your constantly.

1175
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: They constantly complimenting people, but it's not sincere and it's

1176
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: also just too much and it's very much a turnoff.

1177
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: Here's what I just heard from you, Capshaw. I just heard.

1178
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: So it's not planning, but we do that, which it's

1179
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: like you're speaking another legage. It's big leg.

1180
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: But blazing in a sentence though, is it like, hey,

1181
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: you're you've been glazing me recently, I.

1182
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: Think a very very sexual thing. When I heard glazing,

1183
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: I hear fair.

1184
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: No, I know, but it's a glazed dick. It's like a

1185
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: glaze dont dick.

1186
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1187
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: It's like all the glaze and the dick and the

1188
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: writing and there's no way in the writing writing a

1189
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: glazed dick.

1190
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: Wait what if, Jenna? For the whole point of them is.

1191
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 5: To make us idiots be sexual stuff and it's not

1192
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 5: sexual at all.

1193
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, well I was glazing on a girl,

1194
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: amazing on a girl, I complimenting her. Yes, No, I'm

1195
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 4: talking about Richard Hampton, the famous author writing get your

1196
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: head out of the gutter.

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01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: How do you make that phone call? Is it a

1198
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: phone call to the parents? Do you have to write

1199
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: certified d one dick writer in an email?

1200
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: Yes?

1201
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: You should. Is that the subject? Yeah? I just have

1202
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: to tell you that Bobby said certified d one dame

1203
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: writer to me in class and we had to google that.

1204
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: That's also blazed, Rachel.

1205
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. If no one said it today

1206
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: to you, I just want you to know that on

1207
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: this podcast, I am proud of you. I'm proud of

1208
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: you for for going every day and being a teacher and.

1209
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: Taking this ship.

1210
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 4: You are such a certified giving Rachel Flowers in this way.

1211
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here today and subject

1212
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: acting yourself to our podcast.

1213
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 4: I can do this all day. In fact, please have

1214
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 4: me back. We will decode more of the youth.

1215
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: You know what, if we get another question in this

1216
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: like this, we're literally you're going to be our number

1217
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: one call.

1218
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: I can hop right on.

1219
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 5: It was kind of like how they do on the news,

1220
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 5: like on the phone, but sky you.

1221
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: Like, I'm so sorry.

1222
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 5: Other famous actor or author or someone or guests that

1223
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 5: we have on this podcast, We're.

1224
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: Going, yeah, sorry, that's you would be our correspondent.

1225
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: You've carved out your niche in our show.

1226
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: Right, let's do this against guys.

1227
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: Okay, we love it. We're gonna let you go and

1228
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: have an amazing day and and spread the word about

1229
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: the d One. Certified Dick Ride is for the masses.

1230
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: What's going down?

1231
01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Jon Altha, Okay, bye, by god, that was so much fun.

1232
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: He's so great the certified d like so he was

1233
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: so good at answering questions.

1234
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: It's connecting with the crew. It is it's.

1235
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: Connecting with the crew. Okay, that was incredible. I cannot

1236
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 3: wait to have him back for all the things in

1237
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: the future. Let's call this the end of the episode.