1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. On this Wednesday, Dan and The 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Dan H. Dan Patrick Show will check in with the 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: former All Pro defensive end Marcellus Wiley coming up a 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Kyler Murray's done for the year. Odell Beckham 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Junior is still on the outside looking in as some 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: of these other playoff caliber teams. Cowboys and the Bills 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: have brought in reinforcements. The Giants signed Carlos Krey. It's 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: a thirteen year, three hundred and fifty million dollar deal, 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: which makes me wonder what show Hey Otani is gonna 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: be worth after next season. Maybe I'm on the lighter 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: side with five hundred million dollar contract, but I could 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: see show Heyotani, who's twenty eight sign a ten year deal. Well, 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: they're all signing like eleven twelve, thirteen year deals. They 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: want to be paid into their forties, and these teams 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: not exactly showing fiscal responsibility here. Yes, Paul, just to 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: put in perspective, Carlos Krea last last year as a 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: hitter one with twenty two homers, sixty four RBI, Showy 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: Toy two seventy three, thirty four homers, ninety five RBI 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: and the season before he was even better. Otani, Yeah, 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: and he pitches. I gotta give him two contract. I 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: have to pay him like he's two players, but he's 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: even more than that. When you when you factor that in, 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: maybe as an agent for the hitter and then an 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: agent for the pitcher. There eight seven seven three d 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: P Show email address DPA dan Patrick dot com Twitter handle. 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: At dp's show, we uh talked a lot of NBA 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: and UH, I was watching some of the games last night. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: You had uh. You know, I'm watching the Pelicans and 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: they're playing the Jazz and I'm going, Okay, everybody's talking 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: about the Pelicans and if they're the team, they might 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: be the team to beat out West. They lost to 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the Jazz by twenty one last night. I don't know 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: what the Jazz are doing. I don't know who the 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Jazz are, but somehow they have figured out and they 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: played pretty good basketball. Golden State Warriors got roughed up 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. Golden State is allowed at least one hundred 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and fourteen points in all fourteen road games this season, 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: and the Lakers last night. Was watching that. You know, 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: you had a situation where Boston big lead lost the 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: big lead Celtic or the Lakers had a double digit lead, 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: they lost that and then they lost it over time. 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: There was a moment in the Milwaukee game where Draymond 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: Green had some interaction with a fan and one of 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: the fan ejected, here is Draymond after the game, what 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: did they say to you? Awesome threatening stuff to my life? 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: So you know, I was this closer, really going back 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: like diving all the way in, but con just went 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: back in, told you official. And when I told the 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: official what he said, he he gotta get out of here. 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: You gotta get out of here. I would have asked him, 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: tell me exactly what was said to you. And I 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: certainly believe what he's saying because it happens more often 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: than you think. All Right. We also talked about the awards. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: The NBA come out with names attached to their awards 56 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: and it kind of came out of nowhere. I think 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: they have the Maurice Podoloff Award that's given out to 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: the team that has the best record, like the President's 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: Cup in the National Hockey League. Yeah, but nobody wants 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: to win the President's Cup in the National Hockey League, 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, oh wow, but that's incentive. Somebody's gonna 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: really want to fight to win the MoPo Trophy. There 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: we got the MOO Yeah, and then Michael Jordan got 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: the mb P Trophy even though named after him, even 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: though Kareem has more MVPs than Michael Jordan. I was 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit bothered by that. But you know, some 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: of the other ones, like George Mike and most improved. 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, he was always great, I don't know, 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: And maybe just keeping those names sort of in you know, 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: the vernacular with NBA fans, Jerry West goes mister Clutch, 71 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: John Hablcheck, sixth Man of the Year, Defensive Player of 72 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the Year, kim Elajuan, who I think it's the greatest 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: defensive player aside from Bill Russell. But modern defensive Player 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: of the Year Kim Elajuan Yes, by yeah. I don't 75 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: think there's an award named after doctor j Julius Serving. 76 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I know this is a little subjective. What about the 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: doctor j or Julius Irving play of the year, like 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: the coolest play of the year, and make it like 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: a viral thing where if it's a crossover and someone's 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: ankles get snapped, or if the dunk and Zion Williamson 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: but the Julius Irving play at NBA Play of the 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Year and make it all social media. I don't think 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: we can have everything sponsored or everything named after the 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Grandville Waiters. Bald sixth Man Bob Ryan, longtime Boston Globe 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: sports columnist and a contributor to Around the Horn, joins 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: us on the program. Bob, thanks for joining us on 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: short notice. What do you make of these new NBA awards? Who? Well, 88 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's all about the Bucks and somebody is 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: going to sponsor them, and that's fine, but it will 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: be You're not going to please you know, this tend 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: you never. You can't please them all. You can't please people. 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: You can't get a unanimity of opinion about who's deserving 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: these awards. I am with you on the Kareem versus 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Michael thing. No slight to Michael, But when are they 95 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: going to get around to taking paying homage to Kareem properly? 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I think so that would be good, but that's you know. 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: I have a nominee for the Defensive Award that you 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: know people that, quite frankly, is a better technical nominee 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: than than than a Cuckemlaga one. But I can understand 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: why it would be a little bit of a hesitency 101 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: to name an award after Dennis Rodman. Um, so you 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: know who, frankly is arguably the best all around defender 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the game has ever known, and that he'd be able 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: to guard anybody from point guards to centers and and 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: all that. There has been a few people like that, 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: but he's the best of them all, I think, Um, 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: but he's Dennis Rodman. That's a he's he's a you know, 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: a character to say at least a well, that's interesting. 109 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I heard somebody yesterday on air complaining about to have 110 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: a check name on the sixth Man Award. Uh, and 111 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: that one, of course, you know, I'll fight that one 112 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: to the death. I'll fight that one. By the way, 113 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: went John passed a couple of years ago. Um, he was, 114 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, always known as the great sixth Man. And 115 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: I said it was damning him with eight praise because 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: even earlier as his second year in the league, though 117 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: he was in fact not starting games, he was second 118 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: on that team in minutes played, behind Bill Russell, and 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: that that remained the case where the whole time he 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: was a sixth man. Anyway, it's you know what we're 121 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: talking about it. I think that's that's probably something they 122 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: like too. Yeah, I agree with that. And some of 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: these names like George Mike and Okay, people, maybe they'll 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: do some homework there with George Mike and but most improved, 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: he came in averaging you know, twenty seven and fifteen 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: or something like us. He never had absolutely no that, 127 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: that's that's preposterous. Now, then again, how would you know 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: who would we I'd have to think now that just 129 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: think that you bring this up, I'll have to do 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: some thinking. Who would be an appropriate person to name 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that award after? Who? Who went the farthest, you know, 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: from from obscurity to stardom. Uh. I'll get back to 133 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: you on that one, but I don't have it on 134 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the top of my head. I was thinking the Greek George, 135 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: the Greek freak Bob. But he's still playing yeah, right, okay, right, 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: he did the average is lookie, Yeah, that's true. Um so, 137 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: but there's the obviously Mike and is it's just just 138 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: a name. It's nice to have George Mike and remembered, 139 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: and you know he could the best near sighted player 140 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: of all time, that would be good, you know, and 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: you know that were you know where he played with 142 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: glasses are to be. It was a pre contact contact 143 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: contact lens world that he lived in. So anyway, why 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: don't we honor Kareem? Though, Bob, I know he missed 145 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: out on social media, he was not lovable. He's the 146 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: greatest college player of all time. He made it look 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: maybe too easy, but you know it just be I 148 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know. And in his post career, 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: he has, you know, become a distinguished you know, we 150 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: know he's an intellect, these arts, an author, he's he's 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: he's he's taken up causes of Native American causes for example. Uh. 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: He's a person, he's a go to person on a 153 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: on any social commentary that of the time. UH. And 154 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: you know he's and if you're going to start going 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: in terms of all time I cues in the in 156 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the league, he's he's going to be in in the 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: high high high high in the list. Uh. And he 158 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: never did anything to disgrace the game. He never did, 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: He's never in the uh. In the news, in the 160 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: long part of the newspaper that I know of uh 161 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: and Uh you know, um I I he he was, 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: and he he has the greatest signature shot in the 163 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: history of basketball, the most famous weapon ever, singular weapon 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: is his hook shot. Yeah. What do you think Lebron's 165 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: reaction was when he learned that the MVP Trophy was 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: going to be named after Michael Jorge? Oh, I'm sure 167 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: there's that inherent obviously, there's an inherent competition narrative and 168 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and and he's good, you know, he has a right 169 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: to stick up from so I'm sure he was saying, hey, 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: wait a minute, when wait, I'm well, I'm done. But 171 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: he's not going to catch Michael in total the MVPs. 172 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: We know that he's not going to do it. So 173 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: if if that's the crid, you know, the criteria he's 174 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: he loses, But he is you know, I I count 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: me among those who when we're talking about the two 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: greatest individual all around talents in the history of the game, 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: uh and and as opposed to centers, which are the 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: whole other discussion. Um, it's Michael Lebron and and I 179 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: can make a case for either one. Yeah, I'm just 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: curious because there is that debater or There's always been 181 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that debate, and if you're Lebron, you're like, wait a minute, 182 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: my career is not over. I'm going to be the 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: all time leading scorer. I'm gonna be up there and 184 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: assist I'm going to be up there with all stars, 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Long Jett, and you know all of those things. In totality, 186 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Lebron is going to have a better career than Michael Jordan, 187 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: except that you and I goes of us who were 188 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: around from Michael and have seen Lebron. Let me tell 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: you this true. Here's the difference in the two and 190 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: how they got to the pinnacle and in their respective 191 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: eras Michael ascended to the NBA mountaintop when he finally 192 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: learned how to share, and he was the nineteen eighty 193 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: seven Michael wasn't making that pass to Steve Carr. He 194 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: wasn't making that pass to John Tackson. The nineteen ninety 195 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: one Michael would do those things, and that tech got 196 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: him rings so he could have had rings earlier. I 197 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: will argue that Lebron didn't ascend to the mountaintop until 198 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: he recognized that the responsibility of being the best player 199 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: in the floor and acting accordingly. He bombed out against 200 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the Mavericks. He did not want the ball. I was 201 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: just did that. But it's true. I saw him quit 202 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: against the Celtics in twenty ten. And so when I'm 203 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: getting if you're in the foxhole, the guy you want 204 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: is Michael. Michael is the greatest competitor and the closest 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: thing to him one eight to him is Kobe and 206 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Lebron does not enter into that discussion the way with 207 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: those others. Two. Sorry, Lebron. That's the fact. I've been 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: watching the Shack documentary and I remember at the time 209 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: when when they broke up, that we would remember what 210 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: they could have been, not what they did. You know, 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: it's the three peat is one thing. I mean, it's 212 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: really I look back on what could have been, not 213 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: what was. What do you what do you take away 214 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: from the world at the time, At the time I cided, 215 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, when it was going on, and it was 216 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: this the triangle was was was you know, Kobe, Uh, 217 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Lebron and Uh and U excuse me, it's Kobe, Shack 218 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: and Phil. That was the That was the the actual 219 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: triangle that mattered at that point, not not text Menter's offense. 220 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Uh and I sided with with shack and in that 221 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: regard and um at that time. Uh, well, we'll never know. 222 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Obviously they should have stayed together. They would, but they're 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: not the only circumstance of that nature we could cite, 224 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: uh in any sport. But that certainly is one that 225 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: that was true. My only has my only Yeah, but 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: on Lebron, I'm excuting on shack and and ranking him 227 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: in the in the higher key of all the all 228 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: time players is simply he should have been a better rebounder. 229 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: I think it's preposterous that that man did not leave 230 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the They can rebounce even once and and and rebounding 231 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: is the number one will rebounding is you went to 232 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: damn baller, don't and you start with that. And he 233 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: was a somewhat indifferent rebounder for far too long in 234 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, that's interesting. But why did the Celtics 235 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: work when you had Burden McHale in parish in DJ 236 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: and age that did? Jealousy? Was jealousy ever part of 237 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: the equation there? No, I know. I mean, the thing 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: is that the Lakers were concurrently great at the same time. 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: Then the Lakers had the upperhand. It won two or 240 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: three times I played in the eighties against them, fair 241 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: and square. Um, so you know, the Celtics accomplished, uh 242 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: what they should have. I think with that group maybe 243 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you just just no excuses for for 244 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: eighty five, there's there is a yeah, but an eighty 245 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: seven they were battered. Michael was playing with the bed 246 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: foot and then their bench was stripped and they were 247 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: nowhere near as good as the Lakers. And that they 248 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: took them to six was it was a miracle. So 249 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: that was that. But no, I don't know where you know, No, 250 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: the Celtic Tech group there were there were mutual admiration. 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: To my knowledge, there was no friction of any substance 252 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: of any kind with that group. I enjoyed watching the 253 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary Around the Horn last night, Bob, I know 254 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: you were there for the made up voyage. The one 255 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: who who would have thought twenty years later, well you 256 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: know TV. I mean it's a remarkable and but what 257 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: what this what's interesting about this whole scenario is that 258 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: you can't discuss Around the Horn without discussing PTI. Around 259 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: the Horn is a spinoff. It is the most successful spinoff, 260 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: babably in American TV. Sports history and and Baba the 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: only one that that has really you know, PTI came 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: on the air in November of one. I remember in 263 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: January of two watching a game on TV from the 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: University of Arkansas and someone was holding up one of 265 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: those faith figures you know, of either Tony or Mike 266 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: and in the stands, and I was saying, Oh my god, 267 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: something's going on out there. You know, this is interesting. 268 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: And it turned out the college audiences were a real 269 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: staple audience have been all the time for both shows. 270 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: But um, that show caught on. And only because it 271 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: caught on that was there agitation or in the bitten 272 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: business there to try and um build off it and 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: and and you know, as you know, they are the genius. 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: The one name that didn't get mentioned, I don't believe 275 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: last night was the guiding genius behind both shows. And 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: MAT's Eric Whiteholm of who created all the games and 277 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: all the formats in both shows and went out whose 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: genius the shows wouldn't be what they are. But ultimately 279 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: we owe our existence on a round a horn to 280 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: the personalities of Tony and Mike who who who made 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: that show how popular and and and made it possible 282 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: for us to have a show, and we so it 283 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: starts with them. And then secondly, uh, what Tony really 284 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: has done as a host. It's the hardest hosting job 285 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I think in the history of TV. Think about it. 286 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: You've got the normal hosting duties of banter and having 287 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the producer and the director in your ear, which these 288 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: people at home ever think about. Then you've got to 289 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: listen to these commentaries, these things you're playing off at 290 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: you're ad living, and you're keeping score with these these 291 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: levers all at once. That's juggling a lot. And he 292 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: makes it seem like it's the easiest stamp job in 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: the world, and no it is not. And all hosting 294 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: jobs I had total respect for it, but that one 295 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: above all. And Tony has been, you know, just grown 296 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: up in our eyes. As he pointed out last night, 297 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: he was twenty five when it started. And you know, 298 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: he was not intending to be a personality. He was 299 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: a researcher. He was going to be a behind the 300 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: scenes guy. And he showed up on PTI at the 301 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: eleventh hour as as the information guy, the guy, and 302 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: then he became transitioned into the show. And here we 303 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: watch twenty years later. Who would have thought, Yeah, great 304 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: to talk to you, Bob, thanks for joining us. We 305 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Oh, it's great to be with you. Thank you. 306 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: That's Bob Ryan, longtime Boston Globe sports columnists. Yeah. I 307 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: recommended Tony really to the Jeopardy people. I thought, when 308 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Alex Trebeck passed away, you wanted to get somebody younger, smarter, 309 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: not I shouldn't say smarter than Alex, but younger, smart, energetic, 310 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: look good on camera, likable. Tony Rally would have been 311 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: my pick to host Jeopardy. I remember when Tony Kornheiser 312 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: came to the Mothership. I can tell you exactly where 313 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I was. We're making the turn. Chris Berman's office is 314 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: on my right, on the corner of the building, and 315 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Tony is walking with John Walsh, who helped you know, 316 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: he was the genius behind Sports Center, and he sees 317 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: me and he goes, I can't believe they want to 318 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: put us on TV. This is going to be a failure. 319 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: This is going to be an epic failure. Nobody wants 320 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: to hear us two gas bags. And Tony always made 321 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: fun of you know, he called me Golden boy, and 322 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: I was a talking hairdo and then you know, he 323 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: would always make fun of us, and then here he 324 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: was him and Wilbon and I always think of that, 325 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: that partnership, that he had no idea what others saw 326 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: in them. And you see, that's what happens. You know, 327 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith, when he first came in and made 328 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: an impact, and then they let him go. Stephen A 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: used to do the radio show before ours on Fox 330 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Nobody ever talked about him zero and then 331 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: they brought him back at the Mothership and now look 332 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: at him. It's got to be in the eye of 333 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: the beholder of who is going to be good? Why 334 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: are you good? We see something in you and whatever 335 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: management saw in Mike andntoning, it's something you can't replicate, 336 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: and that's why it's been so successful. All right, let 337 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: me take a break. We'll come back. Marcellus Wiley, the 338 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: former All Pro defensive end, will make his weekly pit 339 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: stoff more phone calls as well. 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A weekly show, unique journey 374 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: around the sports entertainment cultural landscape. It's called More to 375 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: It with Marcellis Wiling. You can listen wherever you get 376 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: your podcast. This week, Marcellis talks about Britney Griner, Andrew 377 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Luck and why Dan Sanders did not buy into the BS. 378 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Marcellis also had this to say about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 379 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about this? This is exactly what 380 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks signed up for. M They signed up for this. 381 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: When Tom Brady misses eleven days of training camp, When 382 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette becomes five net six net just big and 383 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: then oh ain't that big? Oh wait, the same. You 384 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: try to run that game on people, like the scale 385 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: says the same, but let's just say my pants don't 386 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: fit the same. The Buccaneers played the Bengals coming up 387 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: this weekend. Do you think this is it for Tom Brady? 388 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't think this is it just because Tom Brady 389 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: can't let this be his last hurrah in the NFL 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: with that greatness, that resume, the dynasty, the dynasty's he 391 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: was able to create, you can't end on this note. 392 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's just by record or the 393 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: fact that they may make the playoffs, they won't be 394 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion team. I think it's the fact 395 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady knows that he wasn't all in this year. 396 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I think that he doesn't want his resume his legacy 397 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: to say I wasn't as committed at the end as 398 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: I was throughout my duration of my career. So this 399 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady saying I have to go out there 400 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: and play my best, and playing my best means full commitment. 401 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: This year, we haven't seen that. And okay, you got 402 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: a divorce, you get your family situated, then maybe that 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: can help him if he wants to play one more year. 404 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: And I still look at Las Vegas, Josh McDaniels, you 405 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: got Davante, you got Josh Jacobs, you got defensive you 406 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: know some impact players there. I know it's a tough division, 407 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: but if well, do you see a different scenario for Tom, Well, 408 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: it looks like Josh is gonna survive this year despiked 409 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: ups and downs with this team. But more importantly, I 410 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: don't know if Tom Brady is in position to map 411 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: onto a team to win a super Bowl. I think 412 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: you got to be a little more selfish in this 413 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: moment and think about your legacy, think about what you 414 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: want out of this situation. Obviously that's the ultimate prize, 415 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: but that's an almost impossible calculation to make. A team 416 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: that looks ready made on paper typically is not the 417 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: team that's gonna win the Super Bowl. The intangibles kick in. 418 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: So if I'm Tom Brady, as much as the narrative 419 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: is everywhere he goes, he wins and wins a super Bowl, 420 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: the reality is you just don't want to go out 421 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: on a sour note or a note that is not 422 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: as committed. We saw Brady throw a couple of interceptions 423 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: against the Niners. Dray green Law got one of those, 424 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: and here's Tom Brady talking about the defensive player for 425 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the Niners asking for an autograph. It was for me 426 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: to be honest, but I try to be a gentleman. Now, 427 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: it was actually he's a yeah. I mean, look, he 428 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: was a great play he made. I'm happy he's got 429 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: the ball. I'm wish I didn't throw it. But I'm 430 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: trying to be a good sport because a lot of 431 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: times I'm not a good sport. I could be a 432 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: pretty bad sport and say, in the moment when they 433 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: get me in the right frame of mind and my ship, 434 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: good sport. All right? In your third year, I think 435 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: you sacked Bret Farve. Fourth year you got Tom Brady. 436 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's go. Let's stay with Bret Farve, third year player, 437 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: you sack him. Let's say at the end of the game, 438 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: you want to get an autograph football Jersey, did you 439 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: as that? Did you ever ask for an autograph from 440 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: somebody that you defeated. No? I never did it, just 441 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: because I didn't think it was the time or the place. 442 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: We know football is more than just tackling and running around. 443 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: It's also the mentality, Uh, they're always your opponent into 444 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: the offseason or they're to your teammate, right. So I 445 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: never bought into that. Obviously, you're a gentleman handshake how 446 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: the family respect. But I will give you one where 447 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: I was a fan man. Grew up a John Elway 448 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: fan to the fullest. Eric Dickerson and John Elway motivated 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: me to play football. And my first game ever in 450 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: the NFL preseason was in Denver against John Elway, and 451 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: I just remember looking at him five feet away around 452 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: the fifty yard line and warm ups him like, that's 453 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: not the seven, that's a foot locker. That's actually John 454 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: Elway right there. And that was as close as I 455 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: got to a fan man, and also as close as 456 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: I got to sackling that I didn't do a damn there. 457 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: What do you What do you think of what Dreg 458 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Greenlaw did asking Brady. It's a different world these guys are. 459 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: They're so immersed in like social media clicks, everything is 460 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: just something that they can take viral and everything now 461 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: is so personalized. Like I see guys walking from their 462 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: car to the locker room and that's a montage video 463 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: doing commercial breaks in the stadium. I'm like, everything they 464 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: do is a movie. So yeah, they're actors. Now They're 465 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: not even just like hardcore primal Neanderthal football players. They're 466 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: like in some kind of like third dimensional movie. So yeah, 467 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: the rules are gone the way I lived. You have 468 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: to get off the lawn. Now they all share the 469 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: same space. He's a Marcellos wildly than former All Pro 470 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: defensive n and host two of the podcast More to 471 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: It Dan Patrick Podcast Network. On the podcast, you talked 472 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: about Dean Sanders not buying into the BS. What BS. Oh, 473 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: the BS is that Dion Sanders has to do something 474 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: for others before himself. The BS is that Dion Sanders 475 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: has to handcuff him to a situation that is less 476 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: served for him just because it's for the culture, when 477 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: the culture should be for Deon Sanders and promoting his 478 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: growth to the greatest limit it can go. So the 479 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: BS is something that I think we all have faced 480 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: in certain facets of our life when maybe it's your surroundings, 481 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's your friend group when you try to do 482 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: more as you remember growing up and you just tell 483 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: your friends, oh, man, I see y'all later, where are 484 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: you going, I'm going to study. We got to test him, all, 485 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: oh man, And it was just to improve yourself. But 486 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: they literally are trying to sway you because they want 487 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: you to be bigger for the group then for yourself. 488 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: So I'm glad Dion Sanders, who I had full confidence 489 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: and that this was a stepping stone. Jackson State was 490 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: a stepping stone to the next, as Colorado will be 491 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: a stepping stone in success to the next. So I'm 492 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: just glad he didn't buy into the BS narrative. Could 493 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Rock Purty be an upgraded quarterback for the Niners? Yes? 494 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Is he an upgrading? Not yet? Why? The yes is 495 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: the talent, The yes is the measurables. Yes is the 496 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: fact that they believe in him. I'm not sold yet, 497 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: because it's one thing to wake up, let's start here. 498 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: It's one thing to get thrown into a game adrenaline 499 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: rush and you're just like, okay, I'm gonna just playoff instinct. 500 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: It's another thing to wake up and you're like, okay, 501 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm the starter going forward. And it's another thing when 502 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: they hang those Super Bowl expectations on you and this 503 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: playoff time and everyone is not just saying, oh, you 504 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: did well as a fill in. No, we're counting on you. 505 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: So last week was a fill in responsibility. Now it's 506 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: gonna get in success to where we're counting on you. 507 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: And so far under Shanahan, only Jimmy g has been 508 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: the one who has raised his hand and stood tall 509 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: in those moments. Every other quarterback look at Shanahan's record. 510 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: What every other quarterback they faltered in those situations. We 511 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: ever on a team with the backup was better than 512 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: the starter at quarterback. Yeah, this is gonna hurt because 513 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: I still see Rob Johnson every now and then. But 514 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Doug Flutie was better than Rob Johnson. We had that 515 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: quarterback civil war in Buffalo. Who you're talking about crips 516 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: and bloods, you're talking about the sinsion, you're talking about 517 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: banging in the locker room. The owner was against Wade Phillips, 518 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: the head coach. Half the offense was split. Defense was 519 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: sold on Duck Fluty And all this time we couldn't 520 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: say anything to the media or in public. We just 521 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: had to say mum's the word. But in reality, we 522 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: were all sold on Doug Flutie because we had more 523 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: success and when he got this opportunity, he showed why 524 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: we believed in him. But yeah, that was crazy when 525 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: you got a guy out there and you're like, ah, 526 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: we got a better one on the bench. Coach, get 527 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: with the program. Yeah, if Flutey was around now, then 528 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: he could make an impact, right that this would be better, this, 529 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: this system, this scenario, because now we don't go on 530 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: when he's only five nine or five ten. He was 531 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: flute He was a great player. He was just too soon. 532 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: He was before his time. Oh yeah, he would have 533 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: been Kyler Murray maybe Kyler Murray plus in some situations, 534 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: because Doug Flutie could play the game. He just was stereotype. 535 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: He was just looked at and they just said, we're 536 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: gonna box you in as a guy who can't throw 537 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: between the tackles and only can run outside to find 538 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: vision in space. But Doug Flutie one of the greatest 539 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: athletes I've ever been around, and I'm talking about all sports, 540 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: all things. Doub Flutie was a special player, but just 541 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: wasn't given great opportunities. So he always went to the 542 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: plate and there were two strikes before he took his 543 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: first swing, and that's why he didn't get all the 544 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: flowers he deserved. And she'll like it too. Yeah, he 545 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: was a beast. Man talking about Flutie. I love Flutie 546 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: flakes Man, he was a beast. When you have a concussion, 547 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: do you know you have a concussion? When I played, 548 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: we never said we had concussions. Concussion happened when I 549 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: was eight years old in a swimming pool, dove in 550 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: three feet dumb. My second concussion was falling off of swing, 551 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: got pushed out of the swing by some gangsters. They're dumb. 552 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: In the NFL, I didn't have any concussions. We said 553 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: you got your bill run and we didn't even term 554 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: it a concussion. So I know that I've blacked out before, 555 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: which I know now is I had a concussion. But 556 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: all through my ten years of playing in the NFL, 557 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: not one time did anyone ever walk up to me 558 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: and as I can remember, any of my teammates say, oh, 559 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: you have a concussion. We know guys got knocked out, 560 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: it's just the terminology was different. But what happened with 561 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots on Monday Night, you know, it's it's interesting 562 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: when you see like the players now, there's so many 563 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: conflicting interests, right, you have the interests of the player 564 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to acknowledge the concussion for obvious reason, 565 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: playing time, money, and opportunity. Is it's the independent doctor 566 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: who is trying to tell you from the outside what 567 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: you are feeling on the inside. It's the team that 568 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: is obviously wink wink for the player, but really for 569 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: the player playing, and all those things are just conflating 570 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: and conflicting at one time. So it's a crazy situation 571 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: to always look at. Yeah, but you're supposed to have 572 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: an independent spotter, correct, Yeah, but he had to be 573 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: watching another game because you have somebody down. Who is it, 574 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers or Delante Parker. He's down and they help 575 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: him up, and then all of a sudden you're like, 576 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be out on the field, but they missed it. Now, Yeah, 577 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: if it's a quarterback, we're gonna air to the side 578 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: of caution, and in that situation they didn't. His teammate 579 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: had to call time out. Yeah, it's crazy, you know, 580 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: because one there was no other game to watch, so 581 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, he was just caught up into sauce. Right, 582 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: And more than that, when you're in that position. Obviously, 583 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: you need someone to save you from yourself, right. It's 584 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: why a boxer has a corner man, is to protect 585 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: you when you can't go out there and when you 586 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be out there, and in that situation, they missed it. 587 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Because that just shows you that the real motivation is 588 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: not just players health. It's the bottom line. It's the dollars, 589 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: like we need them out there, like you should err 590 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: on the side of caution so much that that can 591 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: never happen. But it does happen, and it happened with 592 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: two etc. It happens because their hearts not in saving 593 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: the players fully. And you know, when you talk big business, 594 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: you can understand why in that respect, or when you're 595 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: talking about players safety and one breath, it doesn't make sense. Oh, 596 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. Thank you. Marcellis all right, brother, 597 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: talk to you something. Marcellis smiling. The podcast is more 598 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: to it and great reaction to his opinions. Not afraid 599 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: to talk about sensitive topics. He'll go where most don't go. 600 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: More to it with Marcellus Wiley wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, point, 601 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: there's some players whose careers were interrupted for different reasons. 602 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: Doug Flutie. You know, he was in the USFL L 603 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: for a while. He played a little bit for the Bears, 604 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: a little bit for New England, had a little success, 605 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: and then he just wasn't gonna start. He went. I 606 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: think he was like seven years maybe more like seven 607 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: years in the CFL and was very very good. He 608 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: came back to the NFL at age thirty six and 609 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: his first year back he made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, 610 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: and he had twenty touchdowns for the Bills. He was 611 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: really good with the Bills. He was a great player, 612 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: great talent. And uh, he just he got labeled. He 613 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: got labeled. When you were around Doug and you go, wow, 614 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: that guy is like five nine five ten at Probably 615 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm being generous there, but back then you had to 616 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: be six four, Like the only way you could be 617 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: you gotta be six four. You gotta have a great 618 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: arm flute. He knew how to play the game. He 619 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: just knew how to play. All right, Well, come back, 620 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in 621 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: store tomorrow? Life for this Thanks for listening to The 622 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 623 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon Eastern six to nine 624 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can find us 625 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 626 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me 627 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: three time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't be more 628 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: excited to announce a podcast called Up on Game? What 629 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: is Up on Game? You asked, along with my fellow 630 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: pro bowler t J. Hushmansatta and Super Bowl champion Yep, 631 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: that's right, Plexico Birds. You can only name a show 632 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: with that type of talent on it. Up on Game 633 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded 634 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with Me 635 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, t J. Hushman Zatta, and Plexico Birds on 636 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. 637 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: It's from Last Call for phone calls, what we learn, 638 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: What's in store tomorrow? Running Smoke is one of our 639 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: podcasts on The Dan Patrick Show Network, and it's coming 640 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: to a close. In this week's final episode, NASCAR driver 641 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: Derek White finishes his fight in court. Here's a clip. 642 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Maybe I could beat the government for everybody. This week 643 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: on Running Smoke, the final episode. The verdict of Derek's 644 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: case may change the future of Native rights, but it 645 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: may not benefit everyone. You're ending up with people with 646 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: a large amount of money willing to risk everybody's rights 647 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: to protect themselves. They know that if this case doesn't 648 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: go their way, they got a whole new story to rewright. 649 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 1: Don't have to change everything. Plus we go ice racing 650 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: maybe Running Smoke available on Dan patrick website or wherever 651 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, be sure to follow like in 652 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: review and it's been a great reaction from the audience 653 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: with a very very interesting former NASCAR driver Derek White. Paula, 654 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: you got a question to uh. Is it a question 655 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: that's based off of something? It's part of this day 656 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: and sports history? Okay, okay, I'll run through that briefly. 657 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty two, the Brooklyn Dodgers signed Sandy Kofax. That 658 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: worked out all right. Nineteen eighty four, Howard Cosell retired 659 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: from NFL's Monday and Football. Eighty six, Dan Marino set 660 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: an NFL record with a seventh four hundred yard game. 661 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Okay two Art Barry Sanders ninety seven ran for one 662 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: hundred yards in his thirteenth consecutive game. Jerry Rice in 663 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: ninety eight caught a pass and is one hundred ninety 664 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: first consecutive game. And here it is the Miami Heat 665 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: debut in nineteen eighty eight. They won their first game 666 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: on this day. They had lost their first seventeen game. 667 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a tough one. Can anyone 668 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: name two of the Miami Heat players in nineteen eighty 669 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: eight eighty nine. Not a lot of star power in 670 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: this squad. It's a mishmash of leftovers. Is Glenn there? No? 671 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: Udonis Hasselm was not on there. I had to check. Okay, yeah, 672 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: Marv Ronnie Cychly Blue Blue Blue, Ronnie Cychly. I think 673 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: it was maybe in the second year out. Accuse yeah, 674 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: good one. That is by far the most famous person. Okay, uh, 675 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: former Nick as a hint one guy who went to 676 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: the Paul and only I know that. Yeah, Marv Keith Askins. 677 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: Askins was not on the tail man. That's a good 678 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: guest man. I may give you a point even though 679 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: he's not on the team. I'm gonna give you some 680 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: bench players. Is John Crotty on the team? I may 681 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: give you a point. No, Um, some of the bench 682 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: players were Pearl Washington, John sun Bold, Oh, John sun 683 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: Bold out of Missouri. Yeah, Pat Cummings one of my favorite, 684 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: Pat Short Cummings out of Cincinnati. No, this is Pat 685 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Cummings out of the Paul I think. No. Pat Cummings 686 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: played for this since I Bearcats. Terry, That's that's right, 687 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: Terry coming, You're right, Pat Comings, My bad. Um, Scott Hastings, 688 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Sylvester Gray, Billy Thompson was a starter, Billy Thompson. And 689 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: another was he uh Syracuse as well? He Louisville, Oh, Louisville, 690 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: I got him, okay, Rory Sparrow former Nick Oh yeah, 691 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: Grant Long Grant and Kevin Edwards a very generic rosstand 692 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: all right? No your heat? No, your heat? Are you 693 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 1: a heat? If you're I'm hot or am? I don't 694 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: know what I am? Am I a jazz A legendary heat. Yeah. Uh. 695 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: Let's see what to watch for tonight. Okay, A maniac 696 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: like you will watch Pistons, Hornet watch Division three football 697 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon? She did, Yes, so I did Mount Union 698 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: or something. Um, Mountain Union is waiting for the one. 699 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: I think it's North Central versus Wartburg or something. They 700 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: beat the crew. Okay, keep an eye. Um let's see. 701 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: All right, here's the five star tonight. I think Cavaliers 702 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: at the Mavericks tonight. I don't like that. You'll watch that? Yeah, 703 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: of course I will. What else I have? Oh, it's 704 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: not beautiful Kings, Raptors, Hawks, Magic Warriors, Pacers and that's 705 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: about it. Not a good cause late either, Jim and Idaho, 706 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: Hi Jim? What's on your mind today? Hey? Dann, thanks 707 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: for taking um. I just had an idea for another 708 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: most valuable category in your award nominated show, and that 709 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: would be most Valuable row. Oftentimes just suck back row, 710 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: suck the front row. Let a fewers listeners vote on 711 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: the most valuable row. Oh, the row of the year. Okay, um. 712 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: I would probably have to enact that next year because 713 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: we already have the voting going on as we speak. 714 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine finishing third in that one? Uh? Let 715 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: me see Joe in La, Hi Joe, what's on your 716 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: mind today? Good morning? Hum great interview with Bob Ryan 717 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: and it just brings back such great memories of my 718 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: Sunday morning ritual of watching the sports reporters with him 719 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: and Lupaca. My job Man. You know, Dick Schaff was awesome, 720 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: but John standers too, which is great. So thank you 721 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: very much for that interview. All right, you're welcome, Joe. 722 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, to be able to talk to Bob, you know, 723 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Bob knows the history of the NBA as well, if 724 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: not better than anybody, and to be covering it. And 725 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: that's why we wanted to reach out to Bob because 726 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: he is he is the the ultimate answer when it 727 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: comes to having seen these players play. And look, I 728 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: know I mentioned this, but I'm very proud of being 729 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: able to go and see these players in person when 730 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: I was growing up, to see Marovich in person, to 731 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: see Wilton person. You know, the only person I didn't 732 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: get to see in the modern era, if you want 733 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: to call it, was Bill Russell. But all those other 734 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: players got an opportunity to see them play, so at 735 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: least I have a reference point. And when people talk 736 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: about Oscar Robertson, well, most people didn't see him play 737 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. They saw him maybe as a point guard 738 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, where he was a different player with you know, 739 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: Kareem Abdul Jabbar leu Ausendur at the time, but having 740 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: seen him in Cincinnati. You know, it just gives you 741 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: better perspective on It doesn't mean I have all the answers, 742 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: but I do have a perspective that most people don't have. 743 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: Greg and Phoenix joins us. Hi, Greg, what's on your 744 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: mind today? Most valuable Danette? Oh okay, well he is 745 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: not the most valuable Danette. Fritzie is Danett emeritus? Oh wow, 746 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: he's the booker. Yeah, he's the booker. No interviews, no 747 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: cartent pent Oh okay. I think we could have content 748 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: without guess. But Fritzie, you know, he done a great job. 749 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't emeritus mean like retired in some fashion? Though? Are 750 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: you retiring? I wasn't planning on it anytime soon. I 751 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: still got a good few years. Yeah. Wow, disappointment bomber Bo. Yeah, 752 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: Paul emeritus having retired but allowed to retain their life 753 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: as an their title as an honor. Like if you're 754 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: an emeritus professor, you have like the rights you can 755 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: come back and do talks, but you're no longer full 756 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: time like a consultant of some sort, so you're not emeritus. 757 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: What did you learn today? Time? Bob Ryan says George 758 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: Mikon was the best new sighted player at full time. 759 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: You always wore glances in the pre Contacts era. Marvin 760 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Bob Ryan said Chack should have been a better rebounder. 761 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: Deph Patrick showed the up. Paulie, just learn what emeritus means. 762 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: What we learned brought to you by Discover. We could 763 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: talk about how we discover. You can redeem your rewards 764 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: for cash in any amount at any time. That's amazing. 765 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: Learn more. Discover dot com slish regime rewards terms supply, 766 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: make sure you vote. Got another week before we tabulate everything. 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