WEBVTT - BONUS EPISODE - Jonathan Stewart 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.600 is cut to it. Good do, good do. Let's getting 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.919 down to do with good do it. We asked the 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.880 questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:29.840 let's cut to it. You heard them about it, then 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:40.279 we're about to let you know. It's all. Let's talk 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.320 about it. Just congratulate me on you know, we molly 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.800 WAPs Oregon. I love like you saw the podcast. Congratulate me, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:54.200 congratulate me. So we got congratulate me in real quick. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.160 So of course we've got Steve, we got backstage joke, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.360 we've got special guests Jonathan Stewart. So he said. I 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.160 was like, oh, no, special guests. He ain't usually here. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.039 I'm not gonna I ain't gonna do that. That's gonna 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:11.679 get you in trouble, get you canceled. So University of 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:20.600 Oregon versus the University of Utah three years ago, we 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.520 were one win away from being a team getting drug 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.679 in the college playoffs. Foy leven million dollars. I'll take 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:36.880 that dragon. But Oregon comes in with Justin Herbert and 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:42.480 kills all of our dreams. Hence our under armour slash 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:48.720 Utah slash d Smith tour stopped. I mean I couldn't 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.200 even sign the paperwork before they even canceled it. It 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.400 was like email stopped. It was like they sent it 0:01:55.480 --> 0:02:00.640 and then you know, right before undo. So we lose. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.800 Now we go up in you up in uh Eugene 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:10.359 actually 'all came. Yeah, it was at our house. We 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.080 beat him and they get a second helping. They said 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:18.840 that that was so delicious. Can I get Can I 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.160 take another? Come out there and we win and go 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:31.280 to go to Vegas Alliance Stadium and pretty much drug y'all. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.800 It was. It was embarrassing. But here was a great 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:40.480 part Utah in Vegas. It was so close that it was. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.320 They said it was a sea red everywhere. They had 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.880 to uh, they had to have police shut down because 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.800 you can walk from the Luxe ord Too Reliant Stadium 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.760 and they had the police shut it down. So they 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.560 were walking. They just said it was a sea red. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.919 It was like it's like a whole bunch of Caucasian 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.400 and African American and all other gang members all in red. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.560 It was awesome. I gotta watch those Caucasian red games. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.440 You never know the boys ain't playing Caucasian. That got 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:18.480 a lot to prove. Initiation is the charts ination off 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:25.400 with his head. I'm surprised, man, you talking in Vegas, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.320 you wouldn't really expect a lot of you know them, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.080 there's a lot of jack Mormons go to Utah who 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.680 like Christers. What is that? You don't know what the Chreaster? 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.880 You know, I don't know what the Christian that goes 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:44.480 to church only on Easter. Yeah, break that down for me, christer. Yes, 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.320 I can see it. I can see a T shirt coming, christer. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.080 Are you a Creaster? Yeah, that sounds like a Christian 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:56.600 that is that goes to church or Easter. Think about 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.560 that a lot. If you go back in especially you 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.400 would like to be being then being in the South. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.680 You gotta go back in your mind one some of 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.480 the outfits for Easter. Oh you gotta break out the 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.800 outfits now. But it's the only outfit and only time 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.840 you go to church. Eight is you gotta have I've 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.400 seen all that, all the pastoral colors. Of course, any 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.600 time in the South, that's what you're gonna have so 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.680 I gotta put on that Sunday best with Easton. I 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.320 have no idea how we got here, but it's it's 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.680 it's knit. So we're talking about that. And then so 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.600 you know, because I said Jack Mormon. So so we 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.839 go out there man and play well. Now we have 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:40.680 the opportunity to do some great things. I was texting 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:47.839 with some Ohio State folk and one proceeds too. It 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.600 was in a group text. One person who didn't even 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.720 go to Ohio State proceeds and I could name call him. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.320 Oh no, this is Trey Boston who went to u 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.680 n C. Chap b Hill. Now trade now tries to 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:10.920 belittle the university. You I like, belittle better, Marcus, get 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.760 over it belittle? Is you take it personal? Is that 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:21.440 fair assessment? And so I took it personal? So I 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:27.320 said several things, which is we went Utah has never 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.400 been to the He said, has have you guys ever 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.359 been to the Rose Bowl? Foo? You know that answer? No, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:37.760 we haven't. So I asked him a simple question. Here's 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:48.159 the questions that I asked. One, has you don't see 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:54.640 Chapel Hill been to the Sugar Bowl? Have they played 0:05:54.720 --> 0:06:00.640 Alabama in this time? He goes, what do you mean 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:05.200 this time when you belittle me? I come back? So 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:13.799 I asked him, did you play Alabama at any time before, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:27.320 say slavery was abolished? Hence his reply it was very derogatory. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.480 Now why am I having a conversation? Well, it was me. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:40.280 It's so Trey myself and and and and um um um, Kurt, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.640 like we have this thing on. We played golf and 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.799 so now it's like this thing every time Ohio State 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.360 does something right, Kurt. And then but yet I just 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:56.000 noticed trade and evert you know, trade trade trade with 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.000 you and uh, chapel Hill. So I just told trade 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.680 is a basketball season, and then he just proceeded to 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.560 but it's I'm looking forward to this. Uh you're saying, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.520 what do you think about the John Day? What do 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.360 you think about this portal? We're talking about portal and 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.000 you brought up a great thing to Geez. You said, man, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:23.560 it's portful. Basketball is bananas. Yeah, elaborate brother, I'm simply saying, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.200 and it probably filters over with football and basketball. But 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:31.160 now then centive for guys to transfer now is it's different? Right, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.800 you don't necessarily have that year. Um, it makes things 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.280 a lot more competitive, and in my opinion and a 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.400 lot of things that I've read, it makes it to 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.200 where a lot of you you've seen a lot of coaches, huh, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.280 you can read, you can read very well public school. Um. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.160 And so you look at a lot of different coaches 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.559 who have now gone on, whether it's Roy Williams coach 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.240 K And I'm not saying that's the reason why they're transitioning, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.840 but the transfer portal has made the playing field so 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.160 to speak, different now. Um And like I said, just 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.440 because it's it's changing recruiting. So that's what we were 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.040 the conversation that we were having before we started recording 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.880 to where it's very instant football and basketball. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.520 so what do you if you were playing right now 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:19.520 football based on what you experience at Oregon, would you 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:24.840 have transferred. It's it's hard to say because I mean 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.960 it's a culture and it's a whole different, Like like 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.400 you said, playing field. You know, when we went to college, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.079 it was hey, your third string that find a way 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.439 to be first string. Now the third string can go 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.880 somewhere else. But now the third string can say, oh man, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.880 I ain't playing you promised you did. I'm gonna go 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:48.400 to another school and complain, and possible I think he 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.680 thinks he complain next year based on what they've been told. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.680 This is just going yeah yeah, but I don't think 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.520 these kids understand that's a great It's like recruiting part too, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:04.199 while you're already in Yeah. Sometimes people transferred for various 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.880 reasons that actually are legitimate, and then some just transferred 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:14.680 because they aren't given or the opportunity that was taken 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.760 away from them was part of they're doing. Think about 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.040 all these quarterbacks they're losing their losing their jobs. You 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.160 don't lose your job because coach don't like you, right, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.720 You lost a job because you suck or you weren't 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.960 as good as they like. You are a four star, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.160 but you played like a two star once the once 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:42.080 the game's actually starting, there is a clearly define result, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.840 right And so because like I just think about two, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.199 I kind of look at it differently. The portal right now, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.240 First of all, there's like three in football, there's like 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.559 three thousand, thirty six hundred. I made an add the 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.360 six hundred. I don't know it. It kind of goes 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.160 up and down football players in the portal right now 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:14.280 there's not that many D one scholarship given schools, Like 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.720 there are not thirty six hundred schools that have scholarships 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.960 that that are waiting for you to quit in your 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.520 situation and jump to enough another situation like supplying demand 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:34.199 is economics. Unlike the government, we can't print new scholarships, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.240 and so like, I know, there's so many guys and 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.439 you here, well, this guy's leaving. I think that I'm 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.520 looking at transport portal portal as it's good for a 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:53.160 bad situation, but I also think it exposes coaches and 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.400 their program. There are some kids like nobody knows I 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.560 believe Josh Gordon. I don't know exact actually how long 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.599 Josh Gordon was at Utah. Did you know that that's 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:08.040 how long he was there for various reasons. I'm not 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.520 getting into and don't really care, and it's not about Josh. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.040 But I'm just trying to say, there's so many guys 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.920 that going to transport portal for maybe a different opportunity 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.000 because yes, they made a mistake, or or they made 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.440 a mistake by picking that school or what I think. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.960 Sometimes these college coaches will say sometimes everything anything to 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.040 get you to commit and then you get there, like 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.840 I told, I tell my boys. I told my boys, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.280 and I've had one and I'm about to go through 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.600 it or my second one. You know, when you get recruited, 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.920 I told him, listen, don't be fooled by the steak 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.959 in lobster, because when you sign, brother's blown in and 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.400 ham cheese, ham cheese, sounnges that you're getting, you getting 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.559 the best on this recruiting trip. They're gonna pick you 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.880 up in a nice car. They don't take you to 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.240 a nice restaurant. You're gonna get good food. You're gonna 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.000 be at the other alumni and you're gonna have steaks 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:13.800 mashed potatoes. But one of your meals pretty soon after 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.160 the second meal, it ain't gonna be as good as 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.280 you think it's. It ain't home cooking is nowhere close 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.760 to me. We gotta watch for the hook. Yeah, And 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.520 these kids don't understand that. They think they really think yes, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:39.640 And I think who I mean, everybody everybody high school? Hey, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.400 you like it's I have I have a rid, you 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.040 know what I'm saying. And and now what's happening with 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.640 this portal you're giving these kids kind of you know, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.160 a way out, but for the kids that needed it. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.800 But then there's the kids the majority on it. For 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.880 the entitlement piece of what you're saying. Man, I don't 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:09.280 need y'all. Like I'm tired of you coach always down, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.600 you know, back, trying to tell me that I'm doing 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.400 things wrong. You have those you said, you have those kids, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.400 and then they just go to the transport. Right. I 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.560 think they even got apps now out there for coaches 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:26.240 that say, Okay, you aren't you're not playing well, Bobby, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:31.640 Bobby Jones in Alabama. This is this is how he's 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.240 been playing. He's in this transport. I'm gonna get him here. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.120 They got three We got three guys, just three individuals, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.760 and their job is to watch the transfer part. That's crazy, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.960 and I think that is I'm glad you giving three 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.400 people a job. However, I think we're sentivizing the wrong 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:58.360 people because our our last transfer guy, our quarterback at Utah, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.280 he left because he and want the competition, because he 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:06.360 lost his job. That's left. Yeah. I don't want to 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.640 I'm not trying to like I'm exaggerating, but I believe 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.839 like middle to night, you know, dropped out of school 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.800 and he's gone, I'm out of here. No, no, thank you, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:19.120 no appreciate it. I mean, I guess he's probably getting 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.720 wooed over by other guys, other people, you know, to 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.560 go play for their organization because you know you talk, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.000 did you wrong? We're just in the Rows Bowl, all right? 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.360 Where do you think that sends to? What message does 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:36.600 that send to like professional coaches, scouts? Like you think 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.800 people are looking at that as you know, this player 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.520 did this, and that's an unbelievable that's an unbelievable segue. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.800 And this is probably why he's gonna run on Friday. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.400 He leads me to believe, kind of like the Carolina 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.640 Panthers right now, where you start to do some things 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.320 and allow things to happen, and then so you're going 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.640 to let go of your coordinator, which probably need to 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.720 let But then now I watched the game just this 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:07.880 past Sunday against Atlanta Falcons, and the same woes from 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.320 the games before seem to be the same woes now. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.600 So that and and you hear about the new coordinator. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.280 He says, this isn't my offense. So if this isn't 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.040 the offense and the guy's no longer here is an 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.720 offense that tells me that actually he's running Coach Rules 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:29.120 Baylor's offense, because you can't tell me this is the 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.920 same offense that Joe Brady ran an l shoot unless 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.080 maybe it wasn't Joe Brady's offense either. Maybe he was 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.280 just a guy calling the plays and there was a 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.000 collective group of people who said, hey, on first down, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.680 these are That's generally what offense coordinator does to something 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.360 to say, he gets if you're smart, you get enough 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.880 people around you, like Andy, Andy Reason has always had 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.640 a number of guys around him. They're going to get 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.480 other jobs, do other things, but you have enough smart 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.840 people around you that they contribute to the team's success. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.600 Matt Naggie was on that Stag could contribute. Now, he 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.120 may not be good on his own, but he's great 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.240 as part of that tree. Part of that tree. Doug Peterson, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:23.080 Frank Wright, Marty Morty Wig like all these guys guys 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.360 that can comment. So you have if you have enough 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.560 of those people around you. And then so when Doug 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:32.440 Peterson goes to the Eagles, what happens. He brings mac Naggi, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.680 he brings Frank Right, Frank Wright goes to be the 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:41.000 head coach who actually called plays. Look what the culture 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:45.360 door man Naggi who had has never called plays. Yeah, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.960 So are you saying that's what's that's what's missing. What 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.040 I'm saying what's missing is here if I just keep 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.800 it to Carolina, I believe is when you have a 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:06.520 college coach running a professional team, it always will the 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:12.439 college filter or lens that he coaches through well to 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:18.760 some degree, until enough time takes learning a learning curve. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.520 You only can go. You only can go to what 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.160 you have a good, a successful reference from, which is college. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.639 So some of that college stuff will be implemented in 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.800 the pros. And I think some of it's good sometimes 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.560 because it does. You know, we're growing in so you're 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.880 kind of like, man, I'm not doing and you kind 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.360 of you kind of push back on it. But some 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.480 of it is good because it does, you know, professional 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.840 professional football at times, and professional stuff can get so 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.720 professional that you take the the innocent fun and kids 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.480 stuff out of it. When you're in college, you're going 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.359 to the movie East as a team. Man, that's a 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:03.879 free movie. I ain't got to pay for it. I 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.439 get free popcorn. Let's do it. When you're adults, you'd 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.280 be like, and I got my own damn theater room. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.120 I don't need no you know, I want to go home. Yeah, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.080 I want to watch Frozen with my kids. I want 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.359 to watch this show. Right. But so, and when you 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.120 have fifty three guys, that's gonna happen. You're gonna get 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.720 people that just are trying to buck the system because 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.919 they have everybody has their own motives. But when I 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.080 look at Carolina right now and watching how they play, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.320 you have both quarterbacks come in at different times, different 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.639 facets of the game, and they both do the exact 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:44.520 same thing, turn the ball over? Right? How does an 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.280 offense consistency when you got that, you can't find constituency 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:55.600 because there's never been any offensive constituency this year. And 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.639 then I think consistency also too. From the player's downpoint, 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.040 you gotta be able to trust what I'm saying, Like, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.919 you know, it's one thing. You know, it's the beginning 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.440 of the season. You're hearing, you know, ra ra ra 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:17.040 week four, ra ra ra. Okay, maybe this is maybe 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:21.280 next week be different. After a while that ra ra ra, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:28.760 it gets toned done, and I think all messages get here. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.000 Here's here's a crazy thing about Mike Tomlin, and you're 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.080 starting to see it a little bit in Seattle. Mike 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:42.000 Thomas fifteen years in, he's had turnover, but not as 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:49.120 much turnover that Um like Pete Um. Yeah, Pete Carroll's had. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:58.160 But here Caroline like that rab rock stuff. The two 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.479 college coaches right now that are struggling to connect with 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.600 the players and fan base for a winning formula. I'm 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.000 not saying that Coach Rule doesn't connect with the players. 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.240 I'm not saying that. What I am saying, though, is 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:18.280 you got to connect with the players to win games, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:26.400 to elevate. The two college coaches right now, Coach Urban 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:31.600 Myers and Coach Rule are not connecting with their players 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.200 or coaches in a way that equals up to win. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.800 He's connecting, right. You can be in a you can 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.480 be in a relationship and be having and have an 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.920 off day and still connect. Right. The connectivity may not 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:51.080 be good, but you're connected because you're you may be arguing, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.440 you may be talking. You know that it's a it's walky, 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.159 but in football you gotta have a connection. And I 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.359 also believe he is one of the biggest issues that 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:05.399 college coaches always have in the first couple of years. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:11.120 They always struggle. Is because in college today, you can 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:17.640 have a ABC one to three simple system, but if 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.560 you get enough five star recruits, you don't outsmart your opponent, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:28.800 you out athletic them. Okay, that's what Alabama does at times. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.639 But they have a fantastic coach who understand the system 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:36.400 right they they have. You've seen Ohio State, You've seen 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.000 that all these big schools. But you also notice at 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.399 these big schools when these players go to the league, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.520 they struggle a little bit sometimes because now that little 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:52.439 lazy ass route that they ran does not work in 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:57.200 the league. The corner you're running against is just as 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:04.000 fast or maybe fast and knows Rose knows that go 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.679 route you're about to run already peep that out. Yeah, Like, 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:12.520 I think that's why Chase, Uh, what's what's Chase last man? 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.800 I forgot for Cincinnati Bankers. Jama jamaar Chase. That's why 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.240 he you see him here, have a good game that 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:23.520 he'll disappear. I don't want him to turn into the 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.359 Chase Claypool where you know he only has a few routes. 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.360 And I think Chase can be a really dynamic receiver. 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.159 But he gotta get he gotta get more tools in 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.080 his tool belt, man, because he reached it for his 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:41.280 he reaches for his tools. That boy got a screwdriver 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:47.000 and a screw driver with these college coaches right, because 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:51.600 they're not really you know, they don't have all the tools. Right. 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.120 So you get to the league. You're a college coach, 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.040 you gotta remember that, can I get a formula someone 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.440 that's been there before on my coaching that that has 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.320 been there before, that I can Most most coaches won't 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:08.280 have that. That's you mean coaches that are coming from 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.440 the college coach. Only coaches that are coming from college 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:19.439 that will have pro type of staff members have played 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.600 for that player for that coach and now he was 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:29.120 assistant league or worked for him. He knows him because 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:34.560 he can't be undermined by a guy that knows how 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.080 the league works and he trusts him. He's not gonna 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.119 that college that that college player that maybe it's coaching 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:46.080 now on the team, right and coach for me went 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:50.200 on another team comes back. He's a defense coordinator. Well, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.400 he he knows where his he knows where his cash 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.760 cow is. His head coach. He's not gonna go when 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.560 they say, man, what's problem? He's not gonna go. You 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:05.199 know this dude don't know what he's doing. Yeah, I 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.320 love cut to It and I love it even more 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.800 when you download us and subscribe, and you can follow 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.960 us on social media too, Smithie, where where at? That's at? 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.200 Cut to It on Instagram? What about twitter? At? Cut 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.119 to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr. 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.640 What about online? And you can follow us at cut 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.800 to It podcast dot com where you can buy merch 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.200 and you can subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.280 I got all my answers, questions. Um, yeah, I got 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.639 all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.560 cut to a podcast dot com. So as I mean, 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.080 both of you, all formal players, what's the what's the 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.920 what's the key to success? Then? From you guys perspectives 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.240 when it comes to college coaches making that transit, is 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.119 it a relational thing, is it a is it a 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.040 culture thing? Is it relational? They're gonna try to that 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.320 with the kids with with that's where the disk I 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.960 said it backers. That's the disconnect. The college coach will 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.439 try to connect with the kids who happened to be 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:16.960 men m And it doesn't go well. I can imagine 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.399 because the because you know all his history goes. Man, 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.479 I'm the head coach, So hey, guys, this is what 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.719 we're gonna here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get up, 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.639 We're gonna do this. This is what I expect. And 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:37.200 the talk grown as man. Yeah, you're like, na, Bro, 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.200 I'm not doing it. I did the legs yesterday, I'm 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:48.240 doing day especially I'm playing football. That is so small. 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.560 But I get it though. You know, that's such a 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.040 huge thing. Man. We had we they had a when 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.600 I was in Baltimore, Man, they had they had a 0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:01.399 Jerry Simmons too, Bro, Jerry's and it says Jerry Simmons 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.040 too is Jerry Simmons was our strength of conditioning coach 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:09.119 in Carolina. When I went to UH Baltimore, they had 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:13.080 a due named Bob who was short just and honree 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:18.000 just like Jerry Steve. I've done my research on you, 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.720 and you don't work out. You don't, Yeah I do. 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.920 I don't do your workout, but I just work out. 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.000 So let me tell you what I did. I did. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.119 I tell you about this on there about we stays 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.320 to have tests every year. No, I don't think you 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:39.960 mentioned this condition. Remember the test, remember Jack, So every 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:48.760 off season there was like this inner squad testing slash 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.680 like tests, but you didn't. You had to test to 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.320 see because coach fox belief was if you weren't getting better, 0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:01.399 you're getting worse. So you know me being resident but 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:07.800 hole right, you I know, shocker, I short that in 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.920 my memory bank. I am an active listener, but I 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.880 can do a really good job acting like I don't 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.760 have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Right, It's 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:22.400 a gift and a curse. So so we have this thing. 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.200 So I remember, so you know, in case people don't know, 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:32.520 I'm five nine when I played right, didn't grow, didn't 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.800 get taller or shorter. That that's who I was. Now. 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.520 We used to do this uh lifting challenge so you 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:46.200 have to run forties uh guys with squat bench and 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:51.240