1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh, a good time of Steve Tasker done TEKSTI texts 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: dot time. Happy Friday. Everybody, welcome to the show. We're 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: here until three one builds live from one. Bill's driving 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: A nice sunny day in Orchard Park. It's warm too, 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: It's like thirty nine degrees. Not a bad day for 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: January fourth. Happy to Happy with us in the audience 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: here today, John Murphy in our one Buffalo studio alongside 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: my partner, Steve Tasker. Happy Friday, Steve, Welcome to Happy, 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Frey Murf's been a good week. It's been a really 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: good first week of the off season. Unfortunately. Yeah, but 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: it's been good. We've had some pretty lively discussions and 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: oh oh I didn't we got little We got trophies 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: up in the studio. Yeah, well, yeah, there's a reason 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: for that. We're gonna talk about that all day. We've 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: got the one Bills Live Awards Day hand out today 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: for the Bills in twenty eighteen. We'll talk about that 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: as the show goes along. You just noticed, though, I 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: just I did. I've been we got some food. Yeah, 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Steve's been in the other room, Rachel's is in here, 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm gonna eat every commercial break. I'm gonna 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: eat all day. Rachel's Mediterranean Grill and Joe Corey, the 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: owner of Rachel's Mediterranean Grill, brought over a great spread 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: for us and for the hockey guys, for the instigators. 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: They got everything out there. They got incredible Greek salad, 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: they got raps, they got um what else is out there? Chips, chips, yeah, 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Greek fries. Amazing. We thank the guys from Rachel's Mediterranean 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Grill and Joey so good. Right around the corner. They 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: are here in Hamburg around McKinley. But they got five locations, 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: two in Buffalo, one inch Tiwaga, one in Williamsville, and 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the one here in Hamburg. Rachel's Mediterranean Grill every day 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: fresh and that's that's what makes it so good. Tastes 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: like they made it fifteen minutes ago, right, yeah, I 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: mean it does. It tastes well, yeah, you know, it's 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: like getting nice fresh salad and fresh that's just great. 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Just really it makes you feel good to eat it. 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: And that's where Steve was. That's where I was. Had 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: not noticed the trophies. I didn't have time to come out. 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I was actually just sitting down as we came on 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the air, So sitting down to lunch, good, We got 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: a good show to you. It's a jam pack show. 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: And Steve mentioned to me this morning about how packed 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: it is. Would you say something about how we're pushing 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: people away from being on He's stim farming people. Guess, 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and we got room and you know we're getting in 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: May April, May. That's not the case then, whereas May June, 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: July really before campus like ooh, it's like breaking rocks 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: with a hammer to get anybody to show up, you know, 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: not today? Good guests line up today. Coming up at 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: one o'clock Thurman Thomas Hall of Famer, perhaps you've heard 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: of him. He'll be joining us in studio one thirty. 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Will be in the line with Great co Sell from 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: NFL Network, the analyst and co host executive producer of 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN, and our buddy Joe b Joebascallia 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: from WKBW TV Channel seven here in Buffalo. I'm gonna 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: join us at two o'clock or so. Joe has a 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: lot to talk about. He's taking a look at which 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: free agents to keep an eye on, and this weekend's 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Wildcard playoff games. We'll talk to him about that. We'll 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: talk with him about what we really want to focus 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: on the show. Steven last day to officially, I think 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: put twenty eighteen to bed. Do you agree. I mean, 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: we've you know, the season ended Sunday, we had Tuesday off, 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: we had Josh Allen in here on Monday, random being 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: on Wednesday kind of recapping what's going on around here 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and today's the last day, and really 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: what we're looking for is a lot of input from 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: our viewers and listeners as to the best moments, and 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: we've did that the other day, but some of the 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: standout performers in twenty eighteen. We've got the One Bills 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Live Awards for twenty eighteen. That's what these trophies are here, 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: not really, but we're going to pretend like those are 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: the trophies we're giving out. We're not giving out real trophies, 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: but we are going to honor some of the those 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: actually are awards won by this show and other productions 75 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: here at One Bills Live over the years. I don't 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: know what they're called. I think they're called Telly's Tell Yeah, 77 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Telly's Yeah. I don't. I guess we didn't want any 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: of those cable TV awards whatever you have, whatever, but 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: we wanted over you a variety of answers to questions 80 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: about the twenty eighteen season, your view of the twenty 81 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: eight eighteen season. And look, nobody's here telling you that 82 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: it was an award winning season or a season that 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: will win awards. The Bills were six and ten. That's 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: not good. That's not good enough, not nearly good enough. 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: I do have to give you. You called it. But 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: you said six and ten from the get go. I 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: think I did. You said six and ten from it. 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: I think I said six or seven wins? I said, 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I said nine wins, maybe ten. I'm because that's where 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: i'm you know, what do I know? So, yeah, you 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: have to give you a shout out. You did call 92 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: him for six and ten. I don't know if you 93 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: actually guessed every single game that they were going to 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: win everyone they didn't. I don't know if you got 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: they went down the list and got it exactly right. No, no, 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: not at all. I'd never do that. I can't do that. Look, 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: nobody can do that. That's why people bet on pro football, 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: because you don't know how it's going to turn out. 99 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: That's why you don't bet on pro football. Well, I 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: think that's why some people been on it, because they 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: know there's a chance that anything can happen. I don't 102 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: bet on profit anyway. But we have an umber of 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: categories here we want you to win in on for 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: the one Buffalo Awards, our season awards between you know 105 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: players first of all, and we'll go through these in 106 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: a regular sense, but just give an outline offensive MVP 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: for the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. Now, we all know 108 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: who's probably going to win that award, but we'd like 109 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: to get your take on it, maybe some other potential 110 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: candidates offensive MP. People talk about defensive MVP. We had 111 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: a good spirited discussion in our office this morning about 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: who was the Bills most valuable player on defense. We 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: can continue that on the show. Rookie of the Year, 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year, pretty obvious candidate there, obviously 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year. Who do you like? Again? 116 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of choices in that category. 117 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: And here's an interesting one. Comeback Player of the Year. 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Come back from whatever you think, whatever you want to 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: say from come back from a rough year last year, 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: come back from an injury plague twenty seventeen season, come 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: back from a rough start to this year. However you 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: want to interpret it, those are the categories we'll talk 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: about it. Give these awards out, at least in a 124 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: figurative sense on the show today, Offensive MVP, Defensive MVP, 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year on offense, Rookie the Year on defense, 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year. Among our guests today, we're 127 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: gonna get Thurman's take and Joe biscallions take on some 128 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: of these awards and also maybe the most memorable moment 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: we did that show a couple of days ago, most 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: memorable moment of twenty eighteen. But play along with us, 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: why don't you the one Bills Live Season Awards Phone 132 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three oh five fifty twenty three 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. You 134 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: can do it on Twitter at one Bills Live The 135 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Season Awards, Offensive MVP, Defensive MVP. Will get your take 136 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: on who the offensive Rookie of the Year, the Defensive 137 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and the Comeback Player of the Year. 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: News Today in one Bills Drive, just a little bit. 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: Danny Crossman is has been let go as the Bill 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Special teams coordinator, fired yesterday by head coach Sean McDermott. 141 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Rough year for the Bill special teams, Crossman on three 142 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: different staffs here came over with Doug marrone, spent two 143 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: years with Morone, spent two years with Rectryan, and finished 144 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: up two years with Sean McDermott. So Danny Crossman is 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: atally out as a special teams coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Um Earlier in the week, it was reported and it 147 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: has been confirmed that Uh, Terry Robiski is out as 148 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: the Bills receivers coach and Steve you ran into him 149 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the other day. Hunt talked to him. I did, and 150 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know he had been released, and we had 151 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: a conversation last about ten minutes. He started getting into 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: what happened at the end of the season, and uh, 153 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, to let me know he'd been fired. I've 154 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: known him for a couple of We've been really well 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: acquainted for the last gush twenty five years. He's been 156 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: on staffs around the NFL that I have covered it 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: with CBS, and I also competed against him if For 158 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know he started out. I 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: believe he started his career with the Raiders. He was 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: on the staff that was on those really good Raider 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: teams in the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties with 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Art Shell and those guys. He was the offensive coordinator, 163 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I believe for the You can laugh, but it wasn't funny. 164 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Then fifty one to three game he was on the 165 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Raiders staff when we when we laughing. Yeah, and he's 166 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: but he's been, He's been around on a law of 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: good coaching staffs around the league. He's a veteran NFL 168 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: coach and U and for what And there's always more 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: to it than just what you see on the field. There's, 170 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, stuff behind the scenes that you know, relationships, 171 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: there's stuff that goes on. Who knows the ins and 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: outs of it. But he and I were talking. I 173 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: told him before I even knew he was fired. I said, 174 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is why I don't want to get 175 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: into coaching. Is this last couple of days in the 176 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: NFL when he got eight guys, eight staffs that are 177 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: being released, all their coaches, all their families. I said, 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: that's why I don't want to be a coach. I 179 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: never did. I didn't want to move. You know, I 180 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: found a home here in Western New York. I didn't 181 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: want to leave it, and I made whatever decisions it 182 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: took to stay here. And and a lot of guys that, 183 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: you know, they and I've said this to Murph as 184 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: we talk about these coaches that were released, and you know, 185 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: you know, there's always the snark out there where guys 186 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, yeah, they didn't you know, they weren't 187 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: good enough or whatever. But the truth of the matter 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: is these guys work really hard and a lot of 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: what they're held responsible for they have no control over. 190 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: And that's the frustrating thing about being a coach. And 191 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: we're Terry and I were talking about and he said, 192 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: that's what you sign up for when you're a coach. 193 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be a little bit of a 194 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: vagabond at times in your career. And you're a lucky 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 1: guy if you get a chance to stay, you know, 196 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: even ten years in one one place, let alone five. Yeah. 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, um and you're right about snark, 198 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of the snark resigns on Twitter, right, 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: we talk about that all the time. A lot of 200 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: people when the news comes out that certain coaches are 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: let go, some people celebrate that I've never done that. 202 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: Oh good, the bills finally let this guy go, or 203 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: what took them so long to let this guy go? Look, 204 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: say what you want. These guys they work harder than me, 205 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: They work harder than you, They work harder than just 206 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: about everybody you know, longer hours. Right, it's a system. 207 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: They're working hours like like medical interns, you know. I mean, 208 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: they're they're in the building all the time. Yeah, all 209 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: of them. And no matter how old they or or 210 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: how long they've been doing it, they're still in the 211 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: building grind in a way. So I don't root for 212 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: them to get fired. I don't root for them to 213 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: have I root for them to have success. Yeah, I 214 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: root for you know, And and I've Danny Crossman I 215 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: can feel for. Although you got to say something about 216 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: a guy who's lasted through three coaching staffs here in Buffalo, 217 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: he does bring something to the table. And I've had 218 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: this conversation with Darren Simmons of Cincinnati and Darren Rizzy 219 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: in Miami special teams coaches. I think it's a really 220 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a tough gig. I mean, I 221 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: played special teams for a long time and I had 222 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: some moments where I was pretty good. But I'm gonna 223 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: tell you something I felt for Bruce to Haven, my 224 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: special teams coach, all the other special teams coaches around, 225 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Mike west Off, all the great guys you know, Darren, 226 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Rizzy Rossi, the guy in Baltimore. There's a bunch of 227 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: really good coaches around. Those guys. Have offensive defense, you 228 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: got to get eleven guys ready, and with personnel packages included, 229 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: you got to get maybe seventeen guys, fifteen or six 230 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: teen guys ready to go in on packages. On offense. 231 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: It's a few less because of the offensive line than 232 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: it is on defense where they roll guys through. But 233 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: you gotta get like fifteen twenty guys ready to play 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday for eleven spots on any given snap. Special 235 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: teams guys have to get fifty three. They got the 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: whole roster to work with. They gotta get fifty three 237 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: guys into sixty six spots and backups. That means kickoff, kickoff, return, 238 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: punt punt return, field goal, field goal defense. They gotta 239 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: get all those things manned up and all the variations, 240 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: the on side kick, the hands team, fake field goals, 241 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: they gotta get those in. They gotta get fake punts in. 242 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: They gotta get all this stuff in. And they got 243 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: to work with guys who are the youngest, most inexperienced 244 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: guys on the rosters, as you know, as a as 245 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: a rule, plus, when the eight team gets hit with injuries, 246 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: their core guys get called into regular down and distance 247 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: duty and they're stuck with whatever new guys come in. 248 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: So they how to get new guys they've never met 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: before in ready to play on a regular basis. It 250 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: is an incredibly difficult task and sometimes and sometimes it's 251 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: more than they can handle. And and it's like every 252 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: other coach, they end up, you know, paying for with 253 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: their job. And it's a but it's that's you want 254 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: to know why I don't coach. I just gave you 255 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a five minute dissertation on why. And that's it. So I, 256 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: for one, don't root for coaches to be dismissed or 257 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: to be let go go ahead and knock yourself out 258 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: if you do it, but you can give us your 259 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on these moves. Look and the Bills make these 260 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: moves all in an effort to get better. Somebody called 261 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: yesterday and said, why do they make these moves? Because 262 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to get better, and you know they let 263 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the wine Castio go earlier in the week. That was 264 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: confirmed for us by general manager Brandon Bean earlier in 265 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: the week, all in an effort to get better. I 266 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: have thoughts on these. Let us know. The phone line 267 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: is open eight oh three oh five fifty and toll 268 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 269 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Whatever you'd like to talk about regarding the Bills of 270 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. We got playoff game starting tomorrow. We're gonna 271 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: talk about those games today, especially when we get to 272 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: h Greg Cosell a little bit later on. We have 273 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. We're down to a fifteen finalists now 274 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, The class of 275 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen ninety two players eleven coaches initially named fifteen 276 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Modern Era of finalists. Should I go through the list, 277 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: see might as well? Yeah this quickly sure. Tight End 278 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez is a finalist. Wide receiver, Isaac Bruce, running back, 279 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: Edgrin James, free safety, Ed Reid safety Steve Atwater, cornerback, 280 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Champ Bailey cornerback Ty Law, safety, John Lynch, tackle, Tony Basselli, 281 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Steve Hutchinson is a finalist, guard, Alan Fanica, center, 282 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Mawai, defensive lineman Richard Seymour, coach Don Correll and 283 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: coach Tom Flores. Fifteen finalists. Who are the shoe wins. 284 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: There's a handful. Probably that Reid is a shoe and 285 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I would think is I think so, Tony Gonzalez is, 286 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Tony Anzalas is a shoe in. Isaac Bruce and Edgrin 287 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: James are going to be up there. Um, Steve Atwater 288 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: has been and Champ Bailey have been. H I mean, 289 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: this is Champ Bailey's first year of eligibility. That'll be 290 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see how fast he goes. Ty Law has 291 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: been out ineligible for three years or so. And of 292 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: course now John Lynch has begun another career as a 293 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: GM for the in the NFL, so I think that 294 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: enhances his candidacy in some ways. But then you've got 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman or is difficult to quantify, Steve Hutchins, 296 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: Alan fannikat, Kevin Mawai. Three guys who really had stellar careers. 297 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of guys edge. But for shoe ends, 298 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Ed Reid, Tony Gonzalez. Those are the 299 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: two that I think are definites. Yep, But you know, 300 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: what do I know? The list of finalists includes contributors 301 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: and seniors. The contributor finalists are former Bronco or he 302 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: is currently the Broncos owner, Pad Bowland, and Gil Brandt, 303 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: vice president player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys. Senior finalists 304 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: JOHNY Robinson, who played safety for the Kansas City Chiefs. 305 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: So the selection committee meets a couple of weeks away, Saturday, 306 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: February second, in Atlanta to elect a class of twenty nineteen. 307 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: They got a class of a fifteen finalists. They'll be 308 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: trimmed from in the meeting from fifteen to ten and 309 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: then from ten to five. Remaining five finalists will be 310 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: voted on individually and they'll be announced on Saturday night, 311 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: February second, nine pm on CBS. And we'll talk too 312 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: firm about this two terminal. I have some thoughts on this. Yeah, 313 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: So all that going on today, A little bit of 314 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: news today. Playoffs coming up starting tomorrow. We've and we've 315 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: got our bills one Bills Live Awards to give away. 316 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Love to hear from you. The phone lines open eight 317 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight 318 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve and I are 319 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: going to get into our one Bills Live selections one 320 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Bills Live Awards selections in a moment. You attended the 321 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: hockey game last night. I did. You were maybe third 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: or fourth on the celebrity list there. They were all 323 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: kinds of games there. Uh, that hurt for you, down 324 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the know. I was further down the list of a 325 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: little bit for down the list. Josh was there, Dominic 326 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Hashik was there. Yeah, Marty Braun was there. He was 327 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: working though he doesn't count. Yeah, he's a celebb Brian 328 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Duff was there. They're working, they don't count. Yeah yeah, 329 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Rick Jennerett's always in the house. Yes, But Josh Allen 330 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: was there. Yeah. It's good. Got a huge ovation, bigger 331 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: than Dominic Hashing which not for me. I was kind 332 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: of clapping harder for Dominic it. I did clap for Josh, 333 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: but you know, Dominic Hashick is He's the best hockey 334 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: player I've ever seen in any position. Some people will 335 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: tell you that, Yeah, I don't know hall of Famer himself. Yeah, yeah, 336 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the Dominator was there. He must have had a good 337 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: round of applause. He did, he really did. And it 338 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: was kind of cool too, because when he popped up 339 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: on the screen, even the crowd was like, oh hey, hey, 340 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: you know I was like, hey, I recognize that guy. 341 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. We were talking to our producer 342 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Jay Harrison, and you were talking about how Dominator was 343 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: here in studio on the instigators. They want to say 344 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half ago. And of all 345 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the people who've come through here, and we've had plenty 346 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: of pro football Hall of famers, we got one coming 347 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: into the dominic. Kashik might be the one guy that 348 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of stopped the show. Everybody's like, WHOA Hashik's in 349 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: the house, You know what I mean, because first of all, 350 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: we're in a football facility and you're not used to that. Secondly, 351 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: he was as dominant and as good as anybody who's 352 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: ever warned that Sabers uniform. I mean, he was a showstopper, 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: right listen. I I don't and you know this, Murph, 354 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: I keep telling him, I tell his instigators this whole time. 355 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: You can put what I know about hockey into a 356 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: thimble and still have room for liquor. Right, So, but 357 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: I know this when I was when Dominic Hashik was 358 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: playing for the Sabers and he was playing his best, 359 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: there was a belief on the other team that they 360 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: could not score on him. He was. He was spectacular 361 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: every single night, and he did it a little bit unconventionally. 362 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: He always had that desperation mode kind of mentality that 363 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: he was into. I saw him do some things that 364 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: I never saw anybody else do. He was just an 365 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: amazing guy. And I remember the gold medal game, I 366 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: believe was in the Olympics, when his team was a 367 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Latvia with him in the army or yager. They won 368 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: the gold medal against the Canadians in a shootout the 369 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Czech Republic, the Czech Republic. He was the Czech Republic's goalie, obviously, 370 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: and there it was all in NHL guys anyway, and 371 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: they went to shootout, right, and you just knew the 372 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: Canadian guys did not believe they could score on him. 373 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: They thought they had to do something so out spectacularly 374 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: good to beat him. They all tried too much. You know, 375 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: he just was in their head and he won the game, 376 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: and it was He's one of the all time great 377 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: performances of all time performers of all time in hockey. 378 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: And I'd still say he's the best hockey player I've 379 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: ever seen in any position. And it was so fun 380 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: to be here in town watching him do that all 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: those years. And the Savers played wild in one last night. 382 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: That's gratifying high after the rough stretch. And they did 383 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: it without Jack Eichel in the lineup, and they did 384 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: it with an injury. Is it was an uper body 385 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: injury for sure, terrible, surprisingly, surprisingly specific. But they beat 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Luongo too, the goalie who's who's pretty well respected, and 387 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: they did it with we did it with our backup. 388 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: So I was I was way into that that win 389 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: last night. I thought it was significant. Um Skinner with 390 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: two goals and the first one, as the people on 391 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: MSG just saw it was a nifty one. It was 392 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: really nice and uh so, yeah, that was a great 393 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: night last night. It was a huge crowd, So yeah, 394 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: I was a good night to be out. You missed it, man, Well, 395 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: you know I had reasons stay in. Jay Harris was 396 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: there last night, Jay Harris, it was his, him and 397 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: his entourage. I stayed in because I wanted to watch 398 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: a basketball game. Money Michigan Wolverinto I really have kind 399 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: of lost touch with. They played kind of a spotty schedule. 400 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: They were on TV last You talk about him every day. Well, 401 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: they haven't played in a while. They played like three 402 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: straight weeks, just once a week, which is not enough. 403 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: They jumped right into the Big Ten last ten. That 404 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: seems enough. They're fourteen and oh they hammered Penn State 405 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: last night, sixty eight fifty five and kind of a 406 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: methodical victory. Fourteen and oh they got another game coming 407 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: up on the Sunday at fourth turbial, workman like. Yeah, 408 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: it was a workman like yeah, great defense help Pence 409 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: eight to fifty five. So it was worth staying home. 410 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that game. I need to watch more Michigan 411 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: basketball now that the football is over. I need something 412 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: in my life now the football. I suppose we got 413 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: the one Bills Live awards you want to hear from you. 414 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: We want you to let us know which Bills player 415 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: wins a following wing award Offensive MVP. Who do you 416 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: got Defensive MVP Offensive Rookie the Year, Defensive Rookie the Year, 417 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year. Give us a call. We 418 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: got phone lines open eight three five fifty toll free 419 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty, or 420 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: you can do it on Twitter. We're gonna read some tweets, 421 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: but we should give our our awards out first. Steve 422 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills one Bills Live Season Awards Offensive MVP. 423 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: Who goes first? You were me? It doesn't matter. We're 424 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna say the same guy. Yeah, this is a no brainer, right, 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen destructions of MPP. Look, they didn't have much 426 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: of any offense for the first half of the season, right, 427 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: Things got kind of lit in the Jets game with 428 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Matthew Barkley, and then Josh Allen returned to the lineup 429 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: started the final six games and they had a viable 430 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: passing offense. Josh Allen, clearly he's the offensive MVP. He's 431 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: not perfect, he's got a long way to go, but 432 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: he really Uh, I thought a little fire on the 433 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo passing game and the run game. All those rushing yards. 434 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: It was a very flawed offense. Right. They could not 435 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: run the ball on a regular basis with the conventional 436 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: way the running backs, and so Josh Allen sort of 437 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: took control. Josh Allen is clearly the offensive MVP. Anybody 438 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: have any questions about that, I don't think I don't 439 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: think so. When he stepped on the field as they're 440 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, particularly after the injury came back after a 441 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: month off, When he stepped back on the field after 442 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: that injury break, they were immediately competitive, immediately competitive, and 443 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: that's a big that's a big step for a team 444 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: that was in the state they were in early in 445 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: the season. It was a big step and it was 446 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: real and they were competitive with a chance when it 447 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: went four and three in his last seven starts. He 448 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: is the guy going forward, no question about it, and 449 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot. There was a couple 450 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: of guys in the in the drafting around the league 451 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: that you could point to, Lamar Jackson being one of 452 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: them who's winning games with the Baltimore Ravens being a 453 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: running quarterback, Baker Mayfield, same thing. The moment those guys 454 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: stepped on the field, whatever their personality said and certainly 455 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: what their skills said had to offer, their teams were 456 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: immediately competitive and more competitive, and that something we haven't 457 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: seen much of from rookie rookies in the NFL. You 458 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, you see these guys 459 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: come in and they're you know, they're throwing more picks 460 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: than than touchdowns, which most of these guys did too, 461 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: But there's something else about them that lifts their team, 462 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen certainly fits into that. And for that 463 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I agree either the MVP. It's hard to come up 464 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: with any other candidate, right Josh Allen led the team 465 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: in rushing and in passing, led the team in touchdown score. 466 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: He finished with eight of them, matching A Bill's record 467 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. I mean, who else could you look at? 468 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Zay Jones finished strong, had some numbers, at least at 469 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: the end, not all meaningful catches, especially in the paid game. 470 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Finished with fifty six catches and seven touchdowns. Robert Camos 471 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: provided some moments he might qualify for one of the 472 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: other awards, but I don't know, there's no other choice. 473 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think if you got a better one. Let 474 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: us know. Offensive MVP, we're going with Josh Allen. Let 475 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: us know, though, give us a call. Eight H three 476 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: H five fifty two three one eight eight eight five 477 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Defensive Most Valuable Player, the second 478 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: ranked defense in terms of yards allowed in the NFL 479 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: Are one Buffalo Awards for the Defensive Most Valuable Player. Now, 480 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: you got some candidates, right, and you you go first 481 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: on this one. Excuse me, I'm gonna I stuck with 482 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: the favorite. Um, you could have gone with a couple 483 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: of guys maybe, like were saying, But I went with 484 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes the favorite. Yeah. Well, he's one of the 485 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: reliable veterans that you knew it was going to be 486 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: have a good year. I went with him. He played 487 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: all sixteen games, he had three forced fumbles, seven sacks, 488 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: He led the team in sacks, and the thing that 489 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: I got, he had eighteen core back hits. And more 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: importantly than that, he led the team in tackles for 491 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: loss with thirteen. So he was in their backfield a lot. 492 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: And I think in the league the way it is now, 493 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: it's about two things. It's about turnovers and getting after 494 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback on defense, and I think Jerry Hughes was 495 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: the best guy at that. This year. He was most consistent, 496 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: played in all sixteen games and I'm sticking with him 497 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: as MVP. Defensive MVP. I don't know about that one. 498 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: He had seven sacks led the team. They're not a 499 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: great pass thro team team, middle of the pack in 500 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: terms of number of sex. Seven sacks is not a 501 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: great number. Jerry Hughes has had better years. I don't 502 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: want to downgrade Jerry Hughes. I think he was a consistent, 503 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: solid performer for a pretty good Buffalo defense. But you know, 504 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: I got for my defensive MVP, safety Jordan Poyer, who 505 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: really I think belongs in the Pro Bowl. Jordan Poyer 506 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: has had two good years for the Buffalo Bills. He 507 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: has led the team in interceptions with the four forced 508 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: to fumble, came up with a couple of sacks one 509 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: hundred combined tackles, none of them for losses. I think 510 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer has had two outstanding years. And his partner 511 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: back there's pretty good too, Micah Hyde. But Poyer seems 512 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: to be around the ball more player, seems to have 513 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: been making plays more than anybody else in that defense, 514 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: both of us ignoring the Turdevious White as the defensive MVP, 515 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: which I think is significant. I think Tardevious had an 516 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: outstanding Pro Bowl caliber year for the most part through 517 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: the entire year. But I'm going with Payer. Jordan Poyer 518 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: is my defensive MVP. Yeah, and you're right. He has 519 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: put together a couple of years here and when he 520 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: got signed by the Bills about his new coaching staff 521 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: and free agency two years ago, there was a lot 522 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: of people were like raising their eyebrows, right. I mean 523 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, okay, he's with Cleveland, and how 524 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: good is this guy? You know? And he came in 525 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: and last year, of course, put his stamp on it 526 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: right away. They were getting all kinds of turnovers. And 527 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: this year the solid play of their entire defense and 528 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: Poyer's role in it in the way they used him 529 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: and his ability to stay around the football wherever it 530 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: was it was. You're right, he had a really really 531 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: nice season back there. I think it's the second one 532 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah. He's smart, you know, he plays smart. 533 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: He can talk about the game well and love when 534 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: he comes on the show. He's great in the postgame 535 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: locker room. Not that this matters as far as who 536 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: the MVP is, but I just think he on a 537 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: defense it's full of some pretty good players Micah Hyde, 538 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: Tradeabous White, Jerry Hughes, Kyle Williams, Lorenzo Alexander. I mean 539 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: they have some talent, both the elderly talent or at 540 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: least veteran talent, and young talent. Matt Milano, some might argue, 541 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: was the defensive MVP. I put Jordan Poyer at the 542 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: head of the class. You may disagree. If so, give 543 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: us a call. We got time for your thoughts too. 544 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: Eight oh three h five fifty toll free one eight 545 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or he can 546 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: tweet him in at one Bills Live. As we hand 547 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: out our one Bills Live season awards for twenty eighteen 548 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. We got more to come, including 549 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Rookie the Year on offense, Rookie of the Year on defense. 550 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: We've got the Comeback Player of the Year. All of 551 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: that to be discussed. Get in on the discussion. Join us, 552 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: won't you. We're here until three. One Bills Live presented 553 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo 554 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back. One goes live from one Bill's Drive. 555 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: We are well fed today from the folks. From Rachel's 556 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Mediterranean Grill. Steve and I welfing down some Rachel's stuff. 557 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: Amazing Greek salad, amazing dressing, so fresh man, so really good. 558 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Great thanks to the guys from Rachel Yes today, Yeah, 559 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Joe Correy and his crew from Rachel's Mediterranean Grill. We're 560 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: going through the One Bill's Live Awards for the Bills 561 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. You are welcome to join us phone lines 562 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: open eight oh three five fifty and toll free one 563 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: eight eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. We'll get 564 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: to your input on this in a minute. We've gone 565 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: through the Offensive MVP, the Defensive MVP. Let's get to 566 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Rookies of the Year, one on offense, one on defense. 567 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live Season Awards. That's what these trophies are. 568 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year. Um my journey to go 569 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: first two years doesn't matter. Offensive Rookie of the Year. 570 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: Who do you got ye, Josh Allen? Yeah, me too. 571 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: Do we need to talk about him? No? No, just 572 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: as there was no other candidate for Offensive MVP, now 573 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: there is some other guys we want to mention. Yeah, 574 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: down further down, but yeah, and this award Offensive Rookies 575 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, offensive rookies. But who else you want to mention? 576 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Robert Foster had a good year. Why Teller was started 577 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: by the end of the year and you know, things 578 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: got a little better. So yeah, but Bob Foster, but 579 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: I think was a surprise player of the year. Yeah 580 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: nobody knew him, right, Yeah, nobody knew who he was. 581 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: So so that's a rookie of the year on offense, 582 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: pretty basic. Defensive rookie of the year not so much. 583 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Our one Builds Live Award the defensive Rookie of the Year. 584 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the guy who did not finish 585 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: the season, Tarn Johnson, who started this season and started 586 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: out really strong. I mean, think about it. He had 587 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: a kind of a rough road to get to the NFL. 588 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: Had a kind of an ugly backwards moment at the 589 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: combine caught on video, and the build drafted him in 590 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: the fourth round, went to camp, realized that he was 591 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: their best option. Terren Johnson was their best option for 592 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: nickel corner, and that's a difficult job, and it's really 593 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: difficult for a rookie. Terren Johnson jumped in and did 594 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: a really good job. I thought, played eleven games started one, 595 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: was inactive the last one two or three four weeks 596 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: of the season. But yeah, I thought he was good. 597 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought he was a really good performer and a 598 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: guy who made plays on the ball. And he played 599 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: through you know, his shoulder injury bothered him Week one, 600 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Steve week one, Week one, he was dealing with the 601 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: shoulder injury, fought through it, got himself ready to play 602 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: every week through three quarters of the season, and then 603 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore. A reliable tackler, a pretty good 604 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: cover man, covering some of the best, you know, interior 605 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: receivers in the game, some of the best slot receivers. 606 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: And I think he was my defensive rookie of the year. Yeah, 607 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: he had. And I think the thing that we heard 608 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: so much about with him was his toughness. I mean, 609 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: he played through a tough shoulder injury that was both 610 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: painful and cumbersome in the fact that he kept happened 611 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: to his shoulder, put back in and he kept playing. 612 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: And that earned a lot of respect to the coaching 613 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: staff and his teammates. And yeah, you can't there is 614 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: an argument to be made for him, And I see 615 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: why you're your favorite guy. My guy is the incumbent 616 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds for what he did. He was the middle linebacker, 617 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: the lynchpin of the front seven. He called all the defenses, 618 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: he made all the checks, he communicated the front to 619 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: the secondary, and he did it all after just turning 620 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty years of an age. And he was did it 621 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: on the number two defense in the National Football League. 622 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty one tackles, a couple 623 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: of sacks, a couple of forced fumbles, twelve passes defenced, 624 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: eighty solo tackles, five tackles for lost, five quarterback hits. 625 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: He was everywhere, and he was And the best part 626 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: about it is, although he had had one game where 627 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: he sat out because of a concussion, he was available. 628 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: He's there six fifteen of the sixteen weeks. He's gonna 629 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: be there for a long time. You can bet that 630 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna make do their best to you know, 631 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: get him to his second contract and he'll be here 632 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: for double digits. Yeah, I think it's I think he 633 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: had a phenomenal year as a young rookie. There are 634 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: other rookie linebackers in the league that may have had 635 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: better numbers, but I think He was as important a 636 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: player on this defense as anybody out there, and he 637 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: was a rookie. I can't poke holes in that. I 638 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: thought Tremine Edmonds had a really good year, and the 639 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: best thing about it might be he got better. He 640 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: got better as the season went along, Right, he had 641 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: a rough time even I think it was Brandon Bean 642 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: on our show a couple of days ago mentioned what 643 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: a difficult day Tremaine had against the Chargers home open 644 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: or week two of the season, right, I mean they 645 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: were exploiting him in coverage, looking one way, throwing the other. 646 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Really did the Chargers did a great job of kind 647 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: of exposing Tremaine Edmonds. That wasn't happening. By the final 648 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: quarter of the season. He was exposing offense. He was, 649 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: he was outstanding against the Dolphins the other day. He 650 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: played more freely. I think as the season went along, 651 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: he he you know, kind of forgot about it. He 652 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't forget about it, but he kind of put aside 653 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he was calling the defensive signals and 654 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: relaying the defensive singles and just went out and played 655 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: ran all over the field. There's a lot to like 656 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: about Tremaine Edmonds and as I said, and made. The 657 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: best thing for me is how just like Josh Allen, 658 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: his trajectory went upward, his arrow went up for most 659 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: of the season, and he was really good by the 660 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: end of the year. And I think also it speaks 661 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: well that there are choices to be made on that 662 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You've got. I mean, you forget 663 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: if everybody kind of whitewash is the fact that Tradevious 664 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: White is this his second year, just finished his second year. 665 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still young. I mean he's been right 666 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: moving into the prime of his career. This next year, 667 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: You've got a guy like tarn Johnson that you found 668 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: out about who's gonna really play He can really play it. 669 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: He was he played really well and he was really hurt. 670 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: And then Tremaine Edmonds comes in as a rookie. So 671 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: and they'd all did this on that side of the ball. 672 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: Where as a team, yeah, they were as good as 673 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: anybody in the league, you know. So I think all 674 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: of those things together you got to make you think 675 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: like they're sitting right in the right spot defensively, they're 676 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: not going to take an enormous step backwards last year. 677 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: You can't really think, hey, they're gonna have the number 678 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: one defense in the league next year. But there you know, 679 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: there's never every reason to believe they are going to 680 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: continue to be very productive. And having such a young 681 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: group of guys playing such an important role and playing 682 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: so well as really speaks well for the coaching staff 683 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: and their ability to get guys ready. We're moving through 684 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: our twenty eighteen one Bills Live Awards for the Bills 685 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season, John Murphy, Steve Tasker here in 686 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio. You're welcome to join us on 687 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: the phone line eighth three h five fifty or from 688 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: outside Buffalo toll free one eight eight eight five fifty 689 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: two five fifty. Oh, you can weigh in on Twitter. 690 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: We'll get to your tweets at a moment. Our last 691 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: award one Buffalo one Bills Live Award come Back Player 692 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: of the Year. And we have a little debate this 693 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: morning in the office about what does this mean. Does 694 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: it mean a player injured last year doesn't mean a 695 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: player who did not play well last year. I mean 696 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: a player who took a you know, a downturn this 697 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: year and then came back strong within the course of 698 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season, no rules. Whoever you like for 699 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: comeback player of the year, let us know what you think. 700 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Steve and I have talked it over, Steve, who was 701 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: your comeback player of the Year for the Bills this year. Well, 702 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: it was coming down to a couple of guys, and 703 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: it was like Shack Lawson was certainly in the conversation 704 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: for the way he came in this year and end 705 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: upped his game. Robert Foster was a guy who was 706 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: cut off the team early, came back and played extremely well. 707 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: And then somebody just reminded me, you know, Josh Allen 708 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: was out for a month with injury, came back and 709 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: played way better after the injury. There's a lot of 710 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: guys that you can choose from for a lot of 711 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: different reasons. Trent Murphy was a guy who didn't have 712 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: a stellar year, but he had a devastating knee injury. 713 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: He was coming back from from another team and the 714 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: change teams, changed venues, changed environment, So it was a 715 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: question markus to how he was going to play. But 716 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I think for me, given the way Zay Jones as well, 717 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, he had a big he upped his contribution 718 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: a bit, so I think for me, though, the guy 719 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: that I want to look to, I'm gonna say Robert Foster, 720 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: rookie free agent, was cut from the team practice squad, 721 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: came back and then when they when they got him 722 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: on the field, and he after he was released and 723 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: brought back and got a talking to from Lashawn McCoy 724 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: some of the other veterans about how to be a professional, 725 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: the mindset they expected from him, what it was going 726 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: to take to be successful in the league. He did it, 727 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: and you could tell the results were evident. And I 728 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: thought his emergence in the second half of the season, 729 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: along with Josh Allen being able to throw him the 730 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: football in his deep threat, changed everything for that offense. 731 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: And I saw I'd say Robert Foster, even within one year, 732 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: would be the comeback player. All right, I can't argue 733 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: with it too much, but my pick, and you've went 734 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: through a bunch of him, there would be Shack Lawson, 735 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: former first round pick whose career got off to a 736 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: very slow start here, right, rookie year, didn't even play 737 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: that much, certainly didn't make any contributions. Second year more 738 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: of the same, right, And it almost was as if 739 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson appeared disinterested at times as his first and 740 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: second year went along, and then the new coaching regime 741 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: gets here and they lock into Shack Lawson, take a 742 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: look at I think his potential and say we can 743 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: do something with this guy. Finished up his third year, 744 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: his second under McDermott's crew here, finished up with fourteen games, 745 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: plays fours two fumbles, had four sacks, five tackles for losses, 746 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: twelve quarterback hits, nine passes defended. Shack Lawson was swatting 747 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: down passes the entire season, even this past week, an 748 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: amazing uncharacteristic knack for swatting down passes. It's really good. 749 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Shack Lawson. I think he 750 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: rescued his career this year quite frankly, and certainly rescued 751 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: his career with the Buffalo Bills with his performance this year. 752 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: So I'm going with Shack Lawson. I think he resurrected 753 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: what looked like a you know, a busted first round 754 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: pick this past year, became an important part of the 755 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: defense and a regular part of the defensive line rotation. 756 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: You said it, Trent Murphy again, a comeback candidate, was 757 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: not healthy at the start of this year and wasn't 758 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: able to stay on the field and show. Shack Lawson 759 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: got early snaps and I think did a really good 760 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: job of making himself an important part of the defense. 761 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm going with Shack Lawson as my comeback player the Year, 762 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: and that's a good call too, because he was a 763 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: guy that you know, came into the season knowing he 764 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: had to step it up. And I think one of 765 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: the things that you can give Shack a lot of 766 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: credit because it was obviously came from inside him, right, 767 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: But I also know that there there were conversations that 768 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: were had by people around Shock, even the coaching staff 769 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: and his players, who who planted that seat and say, listen, 770 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: this is a year you need it. It's time, and 771 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: they convinced him somehow. So whatever buttons needed to be pushed, 772 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: they did it, and Shack Lawson responded in a much 773 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: bigger way than he has before. Yep. All right, So 774 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: we've gone through our list of awards, the twenty eighteen 775 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: one Bills Live Awards for the Buffalo Bill season. Now 776 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We're going to take 777 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: a break here, come back, open up phone lines. Read 778 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: some of the tweets of them and send and let 779 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: us know what you think. Who is the Bill's offensive 780 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: MVP this year, their defensive MVP, their Offensive Rookie of 781 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: the year, their defensive Rookie of the year. Who's the 782 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: Bill's comeback player of the year. All of that, we'd 783 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: like to hear from you your vote. Give us a 784 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: call eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight 785 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or maybe you 786 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: can tweet it in. We'll read the tweet you got. 787 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: Time for you to weigh in now the One Goes 788 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: Live twenty eighteen season Awards. We continue with that when 789 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: we come back One Bills Live from One Bills Drive 790 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back one Bills Live for 791 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. I'm John Murphy, was Steve Tasker. The 792 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: sun is shining in Northshire Park. Just had lunch delivered 793 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: by the guys that Rachel's Mediterranean grill. We thank them 794 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: for that. Everything's good in One Goales Live Land today, Steven, 795 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: it is today's sunny day. Given out award, given out awards, 796 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: just One Bills Live Awards for twenty eighteen. I want 797 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: to hear from you Defensive MVP Defensive MVP, Offensive Rookie 798 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, and who 799 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: do you think is the comeback Player of the Year. 800 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: Give us a call eight h three five fifty or 801 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: twelve three one eight eight by fifty two five fifty. 802 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: Start with the phones. David RK. Dave gave any candidates 803 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: for these awards? Oh yeah, I do, Murp. I would 804 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: like to point out the turning point of the season, 805 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: okay for me was watching Matt Barkley in at forty 806 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: one to ten wins, and I believe because of him 807 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: is when is where Josh Allen learned that he could 808 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: win with the weapons that we currently had. I'll tell 809 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: you what I loved. That was a great game and 810 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: I think it was the most surprising game of the season, 811 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: no question about it. The win over the Jets, the 812 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: way it happened, the way with Matt Barkley taking snaps 813 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: and having been here for like twelve or thirteen days. Yeah, 814 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cool to see. And I 815 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: think it. I think it it said a lot about 816 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: where the Bills were headed to a kind of culture 817 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: they were trying to build. And and I think this too, 818 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: I think that maybe the bulk of the reason Matt 819 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: Barkley is still here today. Despite the fact that they 820 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: say he's the right kind of guy, the guy they 821 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: want to come in. You know that he turned out 822 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: to be. The chemistry was good with him and Josh Allen. 823 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: But if he's gonna be the backup, which it appears 824 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: he will be, they needed a guy that could play, 825 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: and in that one game he proved he had what 826 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: it took, and I think they were lucky to get him. 827 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: Bill's the best they did this year was a two 828 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: game win streak, and that's that was the game one 829 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: of the two game win streak. Believe it or not, 830 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: a two game win streak. No one's gonna erect the 831 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: statue about a two game win streak. But they went 832 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: to New York with a quarterback who was just as 833 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: Steve said, added to the roster a week and a 834 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: half before, and not only did they win the way 835 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: they started that game and the caller Dave was talking 836 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: about how that was a turning point if you need 837 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: a turning point for a season, and went six and ten. Okay, 838 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: But first play on offense, the deep pass to Foster. 839 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Foster just coming back into the lineup 840 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: is Steve talked about a minute ago, catches the deep pass, 841 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: second play touchdown, boom, just like that, after up seven 842 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: to nothing. They went up early in that game and 843 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: kind of never looked back and then won the next 844 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: week against the Jacksonville Jaguars here at home. And it 845 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: came after what we've talked about the absolute low point 846 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: of the season, you know, the Chicago game. To come 847 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: to New York with a quarterback who has just added 848 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: to the roster. To have that quarterback hit a undrafted 849 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: rookie free agent who just came off the practice squad 850 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: after being cut, hit him deep downfield. Shitty scores on 851 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: a twenty eight yard run after that, and then to 852 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: score again go up fourteen to nothing. That qualifies as 853 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: a turning point. It was, It was It was totally 854 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: unexpected that the way that game started. It was really 855 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: fun that day. It's almost the point where the Jets 856 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: team who ended up they were they in at four 857 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: and eleven or four and twelve the Jets and overall, 858 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: I can't even remember what their overall record is, but 859 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: so you got the Jets. They ended up Yeah, four 860 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: and twelve. That was a team that it had all 861 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: the field. If they were looking the Bills were. It 862 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: was so bad for the Bills at that point. The 863 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: Jets were looking past them, right, Yeah, they showed up 864 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: flat and I they looked so bad in the game 865 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: against the Bills. And the Bills had looked so bad 866 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: up to that point because you know, they had two 867 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks injured. They you know, they couldn't get anybody 868 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: to take snaps. They were two twice in the in 869 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: the same season in a month. They had to start 870 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: a guy off the street at quarterback. So it was 871 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: dark in Buffalo, and the Jets came in looking past them, 872 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: and they looked so bad. I believe that Todd Bulls 873 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: was not going to survive that weekend, let alone the season. 874 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna fire Todd Bulls the next day. 875 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: That's how bad the Jets look and that's how good 876 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: the Bills looked with a guy off the street. I 877 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: thought a head coach doesn't survive that, but he did. 878 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: He just survived till the end of the season. Now 879 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: he's gone. But that's how unexpected that win was. With 880 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley at under center at a quarterback for the Bills. 881 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: I was, I was. It was almost beyond words how 882 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: unlikely that win was, and yet they did. They pulled 883 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: it off in a big fashion. All End of the 884 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: Season Awards, the one Bills Live Awards for twenty eighteen. 885 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: Who do you like? John on a cell? Go ahead, John, 886 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hey, guys, thanks for 887 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: the call. I just make this real quick, so I 888 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: want to run through them all and I'll wait to 889 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: hear your response. Josh Josh Allen for Offensive Player of 890 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: the Year fostered for the Rookie of the Year only 891 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: because he was told that the duom is wrong, and 892 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: he came back after they brought him back, and he 893 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: got it right. The Defensive Player of the Year, my guy, 894 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: My favorite player of ball in this team the Renzo Alexander. 895 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: He's thirty five places like he's twenty five. Okay, you 896 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: got your defensive pumpback Player of the Year would be 897 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: Check Lawson, of course, in the Rookie of the Year, Admunds. Right. 898 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: That's a good list. And I like the fact, John, 899 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: that you did not ignore and I guess we did. 900 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, who got better as the season went along. 901 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: Two at age thirty five and played a variety of roles. 902 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: That was the amazing part about Alexander's season, the roles 903 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: he was playing, the jobs he was asked to do. 904 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: September ninth, in the season opener, totally different list of 905 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: tasks assigned to him. By the end of the season 906 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: the last month of the season, finished with a couple 907 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: of interceptions, six and a half sacks, a couple of 908 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: forced fumbles, eleven tackles for losses, sixteen games played, which 909 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: is not you know, you don't take that for granted 910 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: when you're thirty five years old. That's a really good 911 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: vote for Lorenzo Alexander for what did you vote for him? 912 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: The defensive MBP? I could that because I'll tell you 913 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: this too. There were times when he was playing maybe 914 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: sixteen snaps a game and that was it. And then 915 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: there were other times we played ninety eight percent of them, yeah, 916 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: and played, and he was he was a special teams guy, 917 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: a core guy on defense. They asked him. The defense 918 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: took a big st forward a couple of weeks in 919 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: a row when they started putting him on the front four, 920 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: on the other side of Jerry Hughes. It was it 921 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: was Hughes. The four guys up there. I can't even 922 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: remember who it was, but they put Lorenzo in like 923 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: at the tackle, in a stand up spot, and they 924 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: rushed him with the four. They took a big step 925 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: forward and a couple of weeks when they put him 926 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: in doing that, so he was up front rushing the passer. 927 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: Then they put him into coverage. When Milana went down, 928 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: he took Milano's place, and he was dropping into coverage 929 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 1: and covering guys. He just did everything. And you can't 930 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: say enough about the contributions he made, the leadership, he provided, 931 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: the example he is, and and you throw all into 932 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: the cherry. On top of that, the fact the guys 933 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: he's thirty five, and you kind of wish, now guts, 934 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: you wish Lonzo was twenty five, you know, I mean, right, 935 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: you don't want him to go anywhere. But even he said, 936 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, he yeah, he'd like to play another year, 937 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see if if the numbers right, I'm sure 938 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: he's going to be a Buffalo Bill this next year. 939 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: After the contributions he made this year. All right, we're 940 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: talking about our end of season awards, the one Bills 941 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: Live Awards and Steve and I have gone through our picks. 942 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: Time to hear yours. You can do it on the 943 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: phone lines at eight oh three oh five fifty or 944 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, 945 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: or you can do it on Twitter and we'll read 946 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: some of the tweets on the air when we come back. 947 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: Play along with us, won't you please? One Bills Live 948 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, 949 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Network. Sports up Dates update from One Bill's Drive. 950 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: Danny Crossman is out as the Bills special team's coordinator. 951 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: No official announcement yet, but Crossman was let go yesterday 952 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: by Bill's head coach Sean McDermott. Buffalo finished the year 953 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: last in rankings compiled by Football Outsiders. Crossman came to 954 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: the Bills in the Doug Morone ten You're Back in 955 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen and stayed on through Rex Ryan's two year 956 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: tenure and the two first two years of Sean McDermott. 957 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: Denny Crossman is no longer the Bills special teams coordinator. 958 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: He gets let go, the Bills, confirming earlier in the 959 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: week that Wan Castile was let go. As often some 960 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: line coach and running game coordinator, and word came out 961 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: yesterday that the Bill's wide receivers coach Terry Robiski has 962 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: been let go as well. Wild Card Weekend is here 963 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: starting tomorrow four thirty five pm tomorrow on ESPN and ABC. 964 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: It's the AFC Wildcard matchup the Indianapolis Colts and the 965 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Then later tomorrow night eight fifteen pm kickoff, 966 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: Seattle and Dallas play that game on Fox. Sunday a 967 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: couple of Wildcard games. The Chargers play at Baltimore at 968 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: one o'clock on Sunday, followed by the Eagles and the 969 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Pro Football Hall of Fame has unveiled its 970 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: fifteen Modern era finalists for the Class of twenty nineteen, 971 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: a class that includes Titan and Tony Gonzalez safety Ed 972 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: Reids safety Steve Atwater. The field of fifteen will be 973 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: winnowed down to ten, and then from ten to five. 974 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: They'll vote on him individually when the electors get together 975 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: the day before the Super Bowl Saturday, February second, in Atlanta. 976 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: Falcons in late July revised Julio Jones contract to get 977 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: him to training camp and appease him without overhauling the 978 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: deal three years left. Thomas de Meetrop at the time 979 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: said they would readdress everything in twenty nineteen. Yesterday, Demetrov 980 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: said the Falcons would take care of that business and 981 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: then will be done. GM says he's not sure when 982 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Julio Jones might get a new deal, but says he's 983 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: not concerned about the timetable Lions GM Bob Quinn says 984 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: he is not open to trading. Matthew Stafford, the thirty 985 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: year old quarterback, still is going to stay with Detroit 986 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: and the Sabers. One last night, they're practicing today. They 987 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: had to Emboston then and play the Bruins at t 988 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: D Garden tomorrow night in Boston. That's the update from 989 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: One Bill Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker ready to go 990 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: with our number two Derman. Thomas had not a prior commitment. 991 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: He had a something come up and not able to 992 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: join us on the show today. That's too bad. I 993 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: had a lot to talk with Derman about Steve. Yeah, 994 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: it's been since before the holidays, says we've had him on, 995 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: so we're gonna catch up with him. But he may 996 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: be with us next week. Today so you're stuck with us. 997 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: There you go, But we got a lot to talk about, 998 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: including our twenty eighteen Bills Awards. We went through him 999 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: at the top of the show. You're welcome to weighing 1000 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: on that on the phone line or on Twitter. As 1001 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: far as the awards, Steve and I were talking this way. 1002 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: For the Offensive MVP, who else johsh Allen? Defensive MVP? 1003 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: I had Jordan Poyer. Steve had Jerry Hughes Rookie of 1004 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: the Year on offense. Again, who else Josh Allen Rookie 1005 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: of the Year on defense? I had tarn Johnson. Steve 1006 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: had Tremaine Edmonds. Comeback Players of the Year. I had 1007 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, Steve Han, Robert Foster. What do you think? 1008 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: Bone lines open eight oh three oh five fifty and 1009 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 1010 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts for they won Bills Live Season Awards. 1011 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: And we can also do it on Twitter at one 1012 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: Bills line. A couple of tweets from the tweet cheat Steve, 1013 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: all right, let's go, let's do it, and everybody's got 1014 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: a's kind of neat. This is a tweet sheets everbody's 1015 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: got their laundry list here from B and Z. Allen's 1016 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: the offensive MVP, Matt Milano's defensive MVP MVP, Robert Foster's 1017 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year, Edmonds is Defensive Rookie of 1018 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: the Year, and Zay Joe is his comeback Player of 1019 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: the Year. We can all we've talked about all of 1020 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: those guys and they all kind of fit those categories. 1021 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,959 Speaker 1: At Eric Rantala, offensive MVP's Allen Defensive is hard to choose, 1022 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: he says, Hughes, Alexander or White, so he kind of 1023 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: bails on that one. Offensive Rookie of the Year is 1024 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: out at Josh Allen, defensive rookies Edmonds and comeback player. 1025 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: He's taking the stance that he thinks Josh Allen's returned 1026 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: from his elbow injury his comeback player of the year. 1027 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: That's worth thinking about. Yeah, I know, I'm glad that 1028 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: Eric Rantala included Tardevious White in the cast of three 1029 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: for his defensive Most Valuable Player. Um, I don't think 1030 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: Tardivious White's getting enough respect or Steve. He had a 1031 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: really good year, really solid year, to the point where 1032 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: teams would not throw his way that's critical, that's important. 1033 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: I didn't vote for him either, right, I gave the 1034 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: award Defensive MVP to Jordan Poyer. But man, Tardevious White 1035 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: had a really good, solid year. I guess if you're 1036 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: poking holes in his game, he doesn't come up with 1037 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: a ton of interceptions. But you know that's that's always 1038 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: nice when you get picks from a from a cornerback, 1039 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: but it's not essential, right, I don't know. I don't 1040 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: think we're giving enough respect to uh Tredevious White for 1041 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: the really good year that he had. He didn't have 1042 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: two interceptions, Yeah he did, and I think one of 1043 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: the things is, unfortunately for him, he'll give up. He 1044 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: gave up, like what, two long plays, and they all happened, 1045 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, they happened within a shorter span. Had a 1046 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: couple of games where UH teams got him for some receptions, 1047 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: but there were a lot of games when he wasn't 1048 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: giving up anything. And he's still right now one of 1049 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: the pillars of that defense, no question about it. Every 1050 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: team would love to have a shutdown corner and I 1051 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: think the Bills feel that way about Tredevious. He didn't 1052 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: he didn't decline in this play this year. Oh, I 1053 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: mean you got better. I think too. I think he 1054 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: got better and he was. He had a big splash 1055 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: season as a rookie corner last year and yet played 1056 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: better this year. And you and I both think that. 1057 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm glad he's a Buffalo Bill and I 1058 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be one for a long long time hopefully. 1059 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: And you're right, he does deserve a lot of credit. 1060 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: Hard to be defensive MVP as a corner unless you 1061 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: got like ten intercept you know, he leading the league 1062 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 1: interception maybe here too. Um More from the tweet sheet 1063 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: from Shan Siaki going through his list of one Bill's 1064 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 1: Live Award winners. Offensive MVP. He's got Josh Allen almost 1065 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: consensus opinion there. Defensive MVP. He's got Matt Milano and 1066 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: an outstanding second year Offensive Rookie of the Year. He's 1067 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: got m Robert Foster Defensive Rookie of the Year. He's 1068 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: got Tarn Johnson and Comeback Player of the Year. He's 1069 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: got check losson. I like some of those two with him, 1070 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: and I agree with yea in my picks Darren Johnson 1071 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: and check loss You know, like, there's so many stories 1072 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: about that, and we you know, you and I spend 1073 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: all day talking about this, you know, this team, and 1074 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: you know we kind of rode the roller coaster to 1075 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: six and ten with him. There's a lot of things 1076 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: to be upset about and disappointed him, but there's a 1077 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: lot of positive stuff, particularly going forward. And Brian Cook 1078 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: tweets in some good stuff. He said, comeback player, it's 1079 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: got to be Robert Foster. The kid was cut, he 1080 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: was off the team. He survived, waivers, got placed on 1081 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Some people said he was finished. Comes 1082 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: back as three straight one hundred yard games and was 1083 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: a vital part of the offensive resurgence late in the year. 1084 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: And he says honorable mention comeback player could go to 1085 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, but Robert Foster. I mean, there's some of 1086 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: these kids on this team and young players. They did 1087 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: ride the roller coaster, and it was a roller coaster 1088 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: of the season, and the team started right where every 1089 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: roller coaster does. They're sitting there at the very bottom. 1090 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: I mean, that game, that week one loss, looked like 1091 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: it was going to be the longest and darkest of 1092 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: all football seasons. It would be hard pressed to convince 1093 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: anybody that there's going to be any optimism at the 1094 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,959 Speaker 1: end of it. And yet they did. The entire team 1095 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: climbed out of the dark spot. They started out in 1096 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: a rainstorm in Baltimore, getting thumped and climbing back out 1097 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: of it and making something of some of their players, 1098 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: making themselves a niche in the NFL, and giving a 1099 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: lot of people, particularly the fans, a lot of hope 1100 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: about where they could be and what a climb that was, 1101 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: because even just getting to six and ten, it looked 1102 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: like it was going to be oh and thirty two 1103 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: over the next two years after that first week in Baltimore. 1104 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,479 Speaker 1: But the players wouldn't let it happen, and it turned 1105 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,479 Speaker 1: out we found out a lot of good things about 1106 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: a yet a lot of young players take a call 1107 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: here on these issues. We'll go to David in Florida. Hello, David, 1108 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Doing today good? All right, all right, 1109 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: let's go to the roster here. Defensive Player of the Year. 1110 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Lorenzo, and that's because Matt Milano 1111 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: got hurt. I suppose I gotta vote to Lorenzo. And 1112 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: my pick for Rookie of the Year is going to 1113 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: be Edvans, Terrill Edmonds and defense Jermaine Edmonds. Yeah, okay, yeah, 1114 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: Jermaine Edmonds and Ray Foster Comeback Player of the Year. 1115 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: What else you got, Robert Foster? You got as your 1116 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: comeback player, the your offensive MVP, Offensive Rookie the Year. Okay, 1117 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: on offense, I guess I gotta go with Josh Allen 1118 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: and uh, I like I like whether he's out a 1119 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: rookie though he's not a rookie. Yeah, Robert Foster is 1120 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: a rookie. Well, then he's a comeback player and a 1121 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: Rookie the Year. All right, I'll tell you what. Robert 1122 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: Foster's sneaky won a lot of fans, hearts many they 1123 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: loved the story. I guess they do. They love the 1124 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: fact that he goes deep and catches it. I think 1125 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: more than anything, Robert Foster's on the minds of a 1126 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans after the season he put together. 1127 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 1: After and like I just read from the tweeter Brian Cook, 1128 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: he was cut, he survived, Waivers came back to the 1129 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: practice squad. A lot of people said he was finished 1130 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: and didn't you know, didn't expect anything from him. And 1131 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden. You know, we were looking 1132 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: forward to seeing him play every week, three hundred yard 1133 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: games and the last four or five weeks of the 1134 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: Sea season, and it really was a difference maker for 1135 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: an offense that over virtually in one or two weeks time. 1136 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: When Josh Allen got back, they were altered. They were 1137 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: competitive again when they hadn't been early in the season. Yep, hey, um, 1138 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 1: let us know what you think. We're trying to give 1139 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: out these awards, these beautiful trophies here, and we're gonna 1140 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: hand not giving those outs. Stop it, all right, We're 1141 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 1: trying to give out figure a kid awards to the Bills, 1142 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: various offensive, defensive rookies of the year, players of the year. 1143 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: I'll let us know what you think. Phone nine is 1144 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: open eight O three five fifty and toll free one 1145 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Playoffs start tomorrow, Steve, 1146 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: you got the weekend mapped out. You're gonna watch all 1147 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: four kind of do? Yeah? And there's a lot of 1148 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: stuff going around about the playoffs, and will you watch 1149 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: all four games? Not in their entirety neither. I can't. 1150 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: I can't, just I know I can. It's like a 1151 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: seven hour day in front of the TV. And as 1152 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: fun as fun as that sounds, you know, I can't 1153 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: do it. I just can't do it. I would not 1154 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: feel good about myself. Yeah, and they're all standalone games. 1155 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: Saturday starts at four thirty five, and then three hours 1156 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: and forty five minutes later the next game, and then 1157 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: the next day at one oh five, and then at 1158 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: four forty on Sunday. I mean, that's just that is 1159 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: a long day. There are seven new teams in the 1160 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: playoffs this year that we're not there last year. That's 1161 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more than average. I think the average 1162 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: is about five new playoff contenders every year. The Bills 1163 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: were one of those last year obviously, right, Well, you 1164 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, no, I think it's like four, isn't It's 1165 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: like the average of four. Nothing would kind of hang 1166 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: around better than that. But seven new teams this year. 1167 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: And we want to go through these teams and get 1168 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: a sense from you and let us let you know 1169 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: what we think about. Which teams are the new playoff combatants, 1170 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: are real contenders? Which team not so much. Let's go 1171 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: through them all. Colts, Texans, Bears, Chargers, Cowboys, Seahawks, Ravens, 1172 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: those seven did not make the playoffs last year. So 1173 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: who's got a chance. Who doesn't have a chance at all? 1174 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: Who are the contenders? Who are the pretenders to a 1175 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship among this group? Let's go through them 1176 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. The Indianapolis Colts. We've talked a lot 1177 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: about them yesterday back. I feel like we've ignored them 1178 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: today because yesterday show. Yeah, are the Indianapolis Colts legitimate 1179 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: championship contenders? Steve? I Look, I like them, like the 1180 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: way they bounced back one nine of the last ten. 1181 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: But I gotta say no, I don't think so. Um, 1182 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: some holes in their roster, uh ten win season just 1183 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, barely qualified for the postseason. Um. Look, I'm 1184 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: glad they're there. I like Frank Reich, like Andrew Luck, 1185 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're real super Bowl contenders? Are they? This? 1186 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: When you say it like that, you open up a 1187 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: whole nother conversation about how big the playoffs are. There's 1188 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: twelve teams in, and there's no way twelve teams can 1189 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: win this. Any one of those twelve teams could win 1190 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I just don't see it. But they 1191 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: are in, and I think, you know, they earn it 1192 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: the hard way they did. They put they won nine 1193 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: out of their last ten games. They started out one 1194 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: in five and fought their way back. And they're one 1195 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: of those teams with they've got a legit quarterback, they've 1196 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: got a legitimate defense. Um, yeah, they could. They would 1197 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: have to, no question. I think you're right. They have 1198 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: to get some breaks in one of these games to 1199 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: win it. They got to get a flukey turnover or 1200 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: two when they get into these ones. But they're they're 1201 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: the team that's gonna go into and play a division 1202 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: rival for the third time during the season. Houston Texans 1203 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: have won eleven games this year. That is a good 1204 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: season in the NFL, a really good season. And they're 1205 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna play at home, so you know, Indianapolis, Yeah, they 1206 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: do deserve to be in the playoffs. They're anytime you 1207 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: win double digit games in the NFL, that's a big deal. 1208 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: And doing it the way they did gives them a 1209 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of momentum headed into the postseason. So I could 1210 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: see it happening, particularly early. Certainly they can beat a 1211 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: division opponent. Uh, those are the ones that you kind 1212 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: of like, wow, that's a that's a toss up. And 1213 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: there's Yeah, so I would say, yeah, I can see them, 1214 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: but no, they're you know, they're they're like I wouldn't 1215 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 1: say they're the twelfth team, but they're certainly ten to 1216 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: eleventh or twelveth. Yeah, they're at the bottom. Yeah. So 1217 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: they go in tomorrow four thirty five pm kickoff NRG 1218 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Stadium in Houston and play the champions of the AFC South, 1219 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, who finished with eleven wins, one more 1220 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: than Indy. Third time they played this year, the Colts won. 1221 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: The last time back about three or four weeks ago. 1222 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: The Colts won it at Houston twenty four to twenty one. 1223 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Are they Houston Texans legitimate playoff contenders? Are they contenders 1224 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: or pretenders? You can go first on this now, let 1225 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: me go first. I think they got a shot. I 1226 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: think I got a much better shot than Indianapolis. I 1227 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: think with that defense that they have, I think with 1228 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: the dynamic potential with the quarterback Watson and DeAndre Hopkins 1229 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: that they have, I think they can run the ball 1230 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: well enough. They're not great running the football. Yeah, I 1231 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: think they got an outside shot at getting to the 1232 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl being the AFC champions. I agree I think 1233 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: they do have a shot. They won. They won eleven 1234 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: and five in the AFC South in a division with 1235 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Jacksonville, who Jacksonville has an elite defense. They 1236 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: are definitely a team that can do it because of 1237 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: their defense and their pass rush on the other side, 1238 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: with with JJ Watt and Jadevian Clowney. If one of 1239 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 1: those those guys can take over the game and then 1240 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson can get out of the way, they have 1241 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: that in their team. I'm not saying they have to 1242 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: do that to win, but they can do that. And 1243 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 1: if they show up, if they get a team that 1244 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: has a bad day up front, the Houston Texans pass 1245 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: rush can overtake a game. Deshaun Watson gives them enough 1246 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: offensively with his legs and his arm, and DeAndre Hopkins, 1247 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, may be the best wide receiver right 1248 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: now in the game. Uh certainly. I believe he's probably 1249 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: is good at a good a receiver. I think he's 1250 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the best receiver in the playoffs right now. So I 1251 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: M yeah, Houston's definitely got a shot to go very 1252 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: deep in these we talk about the Colts win and 1253 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 1: nine of the last ten that you don't forget the 1254 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Texans at a nine game win streak going on that 1255 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: was ended by Indianapolis. As matter of fact, the Colts 1256 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 1: have won three of the last four times they played. 1257 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: This year is different, obviously because the Cults are a 1258 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: different team than they have been based on coming back 1259 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck. You mentioned Clowney and J. J. Watt. 1260 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: They had bernardrac McKinney also playing really strong defensively a 1261 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: linebacker for him, he's a Pro Bowl performer. I think 1262 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans have a chance to win a couple 1263 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: of games here in the playoffs. I'm not saying that 1264 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: they're going to win the championship, but I do think 1265 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: they're legitimate playoff contenders. Pretenders contenders were going through these 1266 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: seven new playoff teams in the playoffs this year from 1267 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: last year. Let's go to the other AFC game. This 1268 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: one is one o'clock tomorrow. Really looking forward to watching 1269 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: this one. The Chargers go cross country to play the 1270 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens lead the all time series seven 1271 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to five over Los Angeles. These two teams just played 1272 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and the Ravens won at 1273 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles twenty two to ten. But it's a wild 1274 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: card game. Now. The Chargers, are they playoff contenders? Yeah, 1275 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: I think they are. They won twelve games. They you know, 1276 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: don't belong in this game, quite frankly. And this is 1277 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: a kind of a fluke in the playoff format where 1278 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: a twelve win team goes to play at a ten 1279 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: win team in the first round of the playoffs, a 1280 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: wild card game that I know why it happens, and 1281 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I understand you want to reward the division winners, but 1282 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask Los Angeles to go cross 1283 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: country play at ten am their time against the Baltimore 1284 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Ravens when they just lost to Baltimore in Los Angeles. 1285 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers were hitting on all cylinders earlier 1286 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: this year. I think they've dropped off a little bit 1287 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: since then. But I think you're looking at Philip Rivers, 1288 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: maybe his last shot at it. You're looking at a 1289 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: pretty good group of offensive playmakers for the Chargers, including 1290 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: the running back Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen, who was 1291 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: an outstanding receiver and under the radio receiver. Yeah, I'm 1292 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that the Chargers are legitimate playoff contenders, 1293 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: maybe win a couple of games to go deep into 1294 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: this thing. They've gotten one of those poised and proficient 1295 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league in league history. He's a surefire 1296 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Hall of fame who's still playing. He rarely gets sacked 1297 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: because he has his protection set right. He releases the 1298 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: ball quickly. He gives them a chance and their defense 1299 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: playing as well as it has. You're right, they strung 1300 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: together a lot of games this year. They won twelve games, 1301 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: and the only reason they're not the number one seed 1302 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: in the AFC is because Kansas City won the tiebreakers. 1303 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: They have the exact same record as the Kansas City Chiefs, 1304 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: that team that everybody's so enamored with, with Patrick Mahomes 1305 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and all that stuff going on. The Chargers matched him 1306 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: except when they got down to the to the tiebreakers. 1307 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: For that, I think that, Yeah, you've got to give 1308 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers a real chance to get to the Super 1309 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Bowl this year. I think I think they're contenders now. 1310 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Their opponents their problem is they didn't win the division 1311 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: with a twelve and four record. Now they got to 1312 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: go on the road. Yeah, but you know what, they 1313 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: were really good on the road. They were really good 1314 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: on the road, and plus their home games were no 1315 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: cup of you know, no cupcake either. They were kind 1316 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: of road games as well, but the Chargers were very 1317 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: good on the road this year. Postseason debut for head 1318 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: coach Anthony Lynn. Seven players in the Pro Bowl, indicative 1319 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: of how much talent there is on that Chargers roster. 1320 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: Their first playoff appearance in what four or five years? 1321 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: Twelve win season, most since two thousand and nine. There's 1322 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: a lot to like about the Chargers. Their opponents in 1323 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens on Sunday at one o'clock their home M 1324 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: ANDT Bank Stadium. Ravens have this brand new offense featuring 1325 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, kind of an unconventional offense. Playoffs are regardless 1326 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,439 Speaker 1: of playoffs. Are they playoff contenders or pretenders? I'm gonna 1327 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: label the Ravens the fourth seed in the AFC playoff picture. 1328 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: I think they're pretenders. They might win on Sunday because 1329 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: mostly because they're home, and because they played good defense, 1330 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: and I know they beat the Chargers a couple of 1331 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago, but they're not Super Bowl quality, even though 1332 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: they hammered the Bills back in Week one. They're not 1333 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl contenders. I don't think I agree. I think 1334 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: they just squeaked in. They needed help to get there. 1335 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: They're running of an extremely unconventional offense for an NFL team. 1336 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they plan on running this offense going forward. 1337 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: They're hoping that Lamar Jackson gets to the point where 1338 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: he will evolve into more of a pocket passer, the 1339 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: ability to throw the football from the pocket and give 1340 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: them a more of a passing game. Right now, they 1341 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: run the football sixty five percent of the time. That's 1342 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: by far the highest in the National Football League. And 1343 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,439 Speaker 1: while it sounds great if you can get it done, 1344 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 1: they're not. You know, they're not playing the Buffalo Bills 1345 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: in Week one this week, and they're they're in the playoffs, 1346 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: and they're gonna meet good teams who are playing well, 1347 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 1: who will have a plan to stop their run game, 1348 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to beat him left hand. And 1349 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't think the Baltimore Ravens have an off hand 1350 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: to go to. I don't think they have anything else 1351 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: to go to other than that run game. Number one defense. 1352 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, it does. I give it a lot of 1353 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: They are but and there. This is going to be 1354 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: a very hard team to score on, but in the 1355 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: playoffs in the NFL, teams are going to find a 1356 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: way to get points on the board on you. And 1357 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't think the Baltimore Ravens can match him. We're 1358 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: moving through the teams who returned to the playoffs this year, 1359 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: seven of them, and let's get to the NFC now 1360 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 1: determining whether these teams are legitimate Super Bowl contenders or 1361 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: just pretenders. Dallas Cowboys are home tomorrow night, eight fifteen 1362 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: at a T and D Stadium against the Seattle Seahawks. Cowboys, 1363 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: champions of the NFC East with their ten win record. 1364 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: They're pretenders, folks, they really are. I don't think they're 1365 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: that good. They sort of muddled their way through most 1366 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: of the season, wound up winning a little bit at 1367 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: the end when they had to. I don't I'm not 1368 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a Dak Prescott fan. Ezekiel Elliott is outstanding. They're gonna 1369 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 1: lean on him, obviously, but the champions of the NFC East, 1370 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: their second division title in the last three years, I'm 1371 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: not a I'm not a fan, that's for sure, And 1372 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're that good. Steve, I've seen 1373 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: them play some really bad games this year, and I 1374 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: don't don't think there. I don't think they're Super Bowl 1375 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: contenders at all. They give up too many points. They 1376 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is good when everything's working well. He's a 1377 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: good athlete, gets out of the pocket and can throw 1378 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: on the run. But they're going to force him to 1379 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: do what he can't do, stand in the pocket and 1380 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: pick a defense apart. He's not going to be able 1381 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: to do it. They will do their best, will the 1382 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks to take Ezekiel Elliott out of the mix and 1383 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: force Dak Prescott to beat them while from staying in 1384 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: the pocket. I don't think they're gonna be able to 1385 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: do it. The Cowboys. Dak Prescott does a lot of 1386 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: things well, no question, he's a great leader, great guy, 1387 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: great teammate. He's a great athlete, he's got a great arm. 1388 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,759 Speaker 1: But he's not I don't think he's a great quarterback. 1389 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 1: And that's what it's going to take to win in 1390 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs, particularly gainst a team as veteran as the 1391 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. Right, you're gonna see two quarterbacks on the field. 1392 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: You're gonna see Russell Wilson be clearly the better quarterback. 1393 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Let's talk about the Seattle Seahawks as we 1394 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: moved through each team in the wildcard playoffs. The Seahawks 1395 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,959 Speaker 1: back in the playoffs. Are they super Bowl contenders or pretenders? Seattle? 1396 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: You can go first of this. Let me start with 1397 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: a little trivia question this year twenty eighteen trivia question, 1398 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: who you know who led the league in touchdown passes? 1399 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Which quarterback Mahomes? You know who finished second? Andrew Luck? 1400 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 1: Who do you think finish third? Probably Russell Will Wilson. 1401 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: That surprised me. Yeah, so I don't know. Are they legit? 1402 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Are they a super Bowl contender? The Seattle Seahawks. I 1403 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: think they can be. Yeah, It's it's difficult because they're 1404 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: in a much more difficult conference in my opinion than 1405 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: the AFC. You get up there to the New Orleans 1406 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: Saints and the LA Rams in Chicago. Those are two 1407 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: really three, really salty teams that are really putting it together. 1408 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: And we'll get to Chicago in a minute. But I 1409 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: think Seattle can do it. They've got a veteran coaching staff, 1410 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: an experienced coaching staff who's been to the playoffs. The 1411 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: leaders on that team in Russell Wilson, most notably, have 1412 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: been to the playoffs and won a Super Bowl and 1413 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: lost a Super Bowl. They've been to the playoffs before 1414 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 1: they know what this is all about. I think that 1415 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: gives them an edge over Dallas. And you can say 1416 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 1: what you want. Dallas has been to the playoffs with 1417 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Remember his rookie year when they were twelve 1418 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: and four, and they did some things. This game does 1419 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: give Dallas a break by being in Dallas in AT 1420 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 1: and T Stadium, but the Seahawks are going to come in. 1421 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: I think this does have all the makings of a 1422 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,640 Speaker 1: really good game, but I think the Seahawks are too 1423 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: much for Dallas. And I think the Seahawks could be 1424 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: one of those teams that sneaks up and wins a 1425 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Divisional Round two as well as the wildcard round. I 1426 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: got them Seahawks as pretenders. I think they will win 1427 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I think they're better than the Dallas Cowboys, 1428 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 1: even in Dallas, and I've always been a fan of 1429 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, but there's not a whole lot Well. They 1430 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: led the league in rushing actually, so they can run 1431 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: the ball when they need to. But I'm just I 1432 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think a whole lot of Seattle Seahawks. 1433 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I would label them as playoff pretenders. Now, the final 1434 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: game of the weekend Sunday four forty pm, the Eagles 1435 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: at Chicago. We'll talk about the Eagles in a minute. 1436 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: They of course, return to the playoffs. The Chicago Bears 1437 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: are back in the playoffs. Number one team in the league. 1438 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 1: The Bears in the scoring defense giving up a little 1439 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: bit less than eighteen points per game, let the league 1440 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 1: in takeaways and interceptions, third and turnover differential plus twelve. 1441 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: The Bears playoff contenders or pretenders. The Bears won twelve games. 1442 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I got him as contenders, to be honest with you. 1443 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna play home at Soldier Field in this game 1444 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon, and I think they play well. 1445 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 1: I know they play well at home, and I know 1446 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: they played good defense. I'm not a huge Mitchell Trubisky fan, 1447 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: but I think they can kind of nurse him through. 1448 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I love what their coach Naggi has done with Trubisky 1449 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: this year. I love to read Cohen. I think he's 1450 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: an outstanding, kind of multidimensional running back. I'm not rooting 1451 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 1: for the Bears. But I think they can contend for 1452 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: a spot in the Super Bowl. I think they can 1453 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: win a couple of playoff games. Yeah, I think the 1454 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Bears may be there in the ANFC championship game they're 1455 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: playing them at in Chicago. Is a tough task right now, 1456 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: at this time of year, and that defense gives him 1457 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: a chance. So I and with Trubisky and Naggy and 1458 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: the vibe they've got going, I give the edge and 1459 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: this weekend for sure, and going forward, we'll have to 1460 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: see how the Chips followed. Who they match up against. Yeah, 1461 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: seven and one of home this year, the Chicago Bears, 1462 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: And in their home to start this playoff run, they're 1463 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 1: home against Philadelphia, the Super Bowl defending champions. I think 1464 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: they're legitimate playoff pretenders, right, I mean, just barely squeaked 1465 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 1: into the postseason. They're a different team than they were 1466 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: a year ago. And the coaching staff and the playing ranks, 1467 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: and you give the Eagles any chance, well, do you 1468 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: give any chance to win Sunday? And you give them 1469 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: a chance at all to go deep in the playoffs. 1470 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: I give them a chance Sunday, But in the playoffs, no, 1471 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean this is it's a Super Bowl hangover, and 1472 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 1: certainly they overcame it and got back to the playoffs, 1473 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: which says something about their grit. But I don't think 1474 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: they've got the horses of the five they had last year. 1475 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: I think they struggled to get in and I think 1476 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna meet a team in Chicago that is gonna 1477 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: throw some haymakers at them, and I don't think they're 1478 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: up to it. Should be a good weekend. I hope 1479 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 1: you enjoy the games. We're gonna come back and talk 1480 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: more about these games and more about the Bills. Great 1481 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Costal is going to join us executive producer analysts from 1482 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,679 Speaker 1: NFL Network on ESPN. He's coming up next One Bills 1483 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 1484 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bills Live from One Bills Drive, John 1485 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio on 1486 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,640 Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon. The season. The postseason begins tomorrow with 1487 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Joining us right now on the line. He's 1488 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: executive producer analyst for an NFL matchup on ESPN. Greg Cosell, Hi, Greg, 1489 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Here in Buffalo. How you doing, 1490 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,719 Speaker 1: Murf Steve, how are you guys doing today? Doing great? 1491 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Really good? We're doing well. I just had a pang 1492 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 1: of regret, believe me, And I'm used to this, but 1493 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 1: it kind of stinks when your team's not in the playoffs. 1494 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: Just let me say it like that. You know, everybody's 1495 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 1: excited all over the country. Here in Buffalo. We should 1496 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: be used to it by now because we had last year. 1497 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: But I miss having a playoff team to think about 1498 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: right now. Well, it was a year ago, right, wasn't 1499 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 1: that the Jacksonville Buffalo Barney barn Burner, the great great man. Yeah, 1500 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: that was just offensive football at its finest, as I 1501 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: recall was, Well, it was rough, but we do have 1502 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 1: playoff football to talk about. But we want to ask you, though, 1503 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: just to wrap things up on the Bills, Greg, I 1504 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 1: know you look at video from a lot of teams. 1505 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 1: Did you spend much time on Josh Allen and the 1506 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 1: Bills performance against the Dolphins last Sunday? And did you 1507 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 1: see anything there? Oh? Yeah, yeah, tell me what you 1508 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: guys know. I've been watching Josh every week and I mean, 1509 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think they should be pretty 1510 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: optimistic about the player their first of their first round picks. 1511 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: As we go forward, I think there was clear improvement 1512 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen. You know, I think he's made incremental 1513 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,640 Speaker 1: improvement throwing with pace and touch, starting to show some 1514 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,879 Speaker 1: modulation in his throws, which I thought was a critical 1515 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 1: area he needed to work on because he has a tendency, 1516 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,560 Speaker 1: even going back to college, to throw everything at the 1517 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: same speed and too hard when it shorter throws. I 1518 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of an improvement there, and 1519 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 1: that's something to work on in the off season. But 1520 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 1: I thought there was clear improvement in Josh. I mean, 1521 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week, and you guys, when 1522 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: we were finished, I still heard you're talking and you're saying, hey, 1523 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty optimistic, and I remained. So I think there 1524 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: was definitely it was positive going forward. There was a 1525 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: clear sense that he got better. And I kind of 1526 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 1: feel the same way about Tremaine Edmonds as well. It 1527 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 1: talks let's what do you see in Tremaine Edmonds, because 1528 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 1: we've been having this conversation about how important and how 1529 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 1: good a year he actually had. Certainly he played enough 1530 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: games and he should have pretty good numbers playing metal 1531 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 1: linebacker in a number two defense in the league. But 1532 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,560 Speaker 1: what did you see aside from just the fact that 1533 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: he played every almost every snap that gives you reason 1534 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 1: to say, hey, he's going to be pretty good. I 1535 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 1: think the first thing I would notice in the run 1536 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: game is played recognition. I thought as the year progressed, 1537 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: he started to play more with his eyes. And when 1538 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 1: you start playing with your eyes, Steve, as you know 1539 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: at that position, and see things quicker, you're able to 1540 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,560 Speaker 1: react quicker. And there's no question about his athleticism. So 1541 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: I think that as the year progressed, he got better 1542 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,640 Speaker 1: at that and he was able to show his tremendous 1543 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 1: athleticism more often. You know. I think two plays from 1544 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: this past week really stood out to me, and one 1545 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: was the interception. But it didn't stand out to me 1546 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: just because he made a great one handed interception. It 1547 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: stood out to me because he understood the defense. It 1548 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,680 Speaker 1: was his own concept. He was an underneath defender and 1549 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,240 Speaker 1: he was initially attacked by the inside slot, but then 1550 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: when he broke outside, he recognized that, hey, I can 1551 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,639 Speaker 1: pass that on and I can look for work now 1552 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: back inside. And I thought that was a really good 1553 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: understanding of the coverage. The other play that got me 1554 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: excited because I thought this when I watched him at 1555 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech was the sack in the fourth quarter when 1556 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,559 Speaker 1: he ran through Kenyan Drake. Because an athlete who's that big, 1557 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: that explosive, I always wondered why at Virginia Tech he 1558 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: was not used more as a blitzer, because I think 1559 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: he has great blitz potential. So I was really happy 1560 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 1: to see that. Greg. I have one more Josh Allen 1561 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 1: question for you, if I may, and it maybe is 1562 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: more of a question on the concept of the of 1563 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: the concepts of the Buffalo offense. You know, they they 1564 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: finally worked some short passes into their offensive mix last 1565 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,760 Speaker 1: week against Miami. You guys, your your Pro football, your 1566 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: your NFL matchup. Twitter site put out a stat that 1567 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 1: showed the Bills second in the NFL to only to 1568 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers in terms of depth of passes 1569 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 1: the Bills ranked second and attempted passes completed passes of 1570 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: twenty or more yards. Is that where the Bills forced 1571 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: into that style of offense or is that something you 1572 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: think they will continue to do moving forward, having a 1573 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: kind of a deep passing component that maybe doesn't allow 1574 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: them to have a good short passing game. What do 1575 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: you think, Well, I think you can do both. But 1576 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 1: if you're you're asking me why, I think with Josh Allen, 1577 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I think the style of quarterback that he is is 1578 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 1: such that he's he's an intermediate and downfield thrower. Like 1579 01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I'll give you a perfect example of a play which 1580 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 1: to me, he just stands out as being representative of 1581 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: I think what you'll see going forward. And that's when 1582 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 1: he hit Jones for twenty one yards in the fourth quarter, 1583 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: not to touchdown, but he had a twenty one yard 1584 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 1: or to Jones on a deep dig and that actually 1585 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 1: came out of two I think it was two backs 1586 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,560 Speaker 1: on the field at the times, and they had a 1587 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: closed formation and they had the slot too. I believe 1588 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: it was the slot was opposite the closed formation and 1589 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: it was play action and he's and he had the 1590 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: inside receiver sort of run vertically and then he had 1591 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Jones run the deep dig. Those are the kinds of 1592 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 1: things you can do with Josh Allen. It's the play 1593 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 1: action pass game. It's throwing the ball at the intermediate levels. 1594 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: That's his strength. You can still throw it short, but 1595 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: I think with you know, with Josh Allen, you're not 1596 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: doing a dinking and dunking kind of passing game. Yeah, absolutely, 1597 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: he's and he said multiple times he loves to push 1598 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. And he actually had a 1599 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 1: higher percent completion percentage this week. It was a sixty 1600 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 1: percent completion And asked him what the difference was, he says, 1601 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, laughingly, it sounds simple, and he says, I 1602 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: wanted to take the completions, you know, And I think 1603 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: he fights against his nature when he does anything. He 1604 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 1: pushed the ball down the field. Greg Gosal joins us. 1605 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 1: He is the executive producer analyst for NFL Matchups, senior 1606 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: producer NFL Films. You can catch him on ESPN this weekend. 1607 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,799 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of these playoff matchups 1608 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 1: and the first game of the day. The Colts and 1609 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: the Texans just played about a month ago. The Colts 1610 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: won at Houston by three points in that game. A 1611 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,600 Speaker 1: couple of teams that enjoyed long win streaks during the 1612 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,679 Speaker 1: course of the season. The Colts lead the all time series. 1613 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 1: They've won three of the last four times they played. 1614 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: But it seems to me the Texans should be favored. 1615 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if they are, but the Texans seemed 1616 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 1: like a more complete roster and more complete team than 1617 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: what Indianapolis has. What do you think, Greg, Well, I 1618 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: think they have better players, but I think the Cults 1619 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 1: are a very interesting team. Keep a couple of things 1620 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,559 Speaker 1: in mind. First of all, the Colts in these two 1621 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 1: games that they played during the regular season sack to 1622 01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson twelve times. And Watson has some shoes when 1623 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: it comes to what he sees, how quickly he sees it. 1624 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: His ability to recognize pressure. Now, his offensive line is 1625 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 1: not very good, so that's a factor as well. But 1626 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this game because also the other part 1627 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: of this is Andrew Luck in those two games through 1628 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,679 Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty three yards, and the Texans 1629 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: played a ton of zone coverage. That's sort of their foundation. 1630 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if they continue to do that. 1631 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: They're a team that's built more on pressure and zone 1632 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,800 Speaker 1: behind it, but they really had a hard time playing 1633 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 1: zone against the Colts. Yeah, I agree, and to me 1634 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: that the Colts are a problem because of Andrew Luck 1635 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: and t Y Hilton, and they've got enough in the 1636 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: passing game, and Luck is he's just a good enough 1637 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 1: quarterback to run around a little bit and extent plays, 1638 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 1: but he can beat you from the pocket as well. 1639 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 1: But I think for the Texans, I think the thing 1640 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 1: that makes them so difficult is that the fact that 1641 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,600 Speaker 1: any point Jadevian Clowning and JJ Watt can take the 1642 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: game over, and that changes things on both sides of 1643 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: the football. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's what 1644 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: they count on. They count on their front seven, which 1645 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:12,719 Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint is very very good. You know, Clowney, 1646 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: I think you'll see him work mostly from the inside, 1647 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: that's where he's best. They do need to create pressure, 1648 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 1: they do need to stop the run because then you 1649 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 1: put them in long yardage and I think that's I mean, 1650 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,839 Speaker 1: you can say that about any team, but Frank Reich's 1651 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: offense this year has been very timing based and very rhythmic, 1652 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: and Luck has gotten the ball out of his hands, 1653 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: so obviously if it's third nine or third and eleven, 1654 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: that all changes. So I think that that's something people 1655 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: will look at in this game. I think there's one 1656 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 1: player on the Colts offense who I'm intrigued by in 1657 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: this matchup, and that's nahem Hinz he's become an important 1658 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: receiver as a back for them, particularly over the last 1659 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 1: four or five weeks of the season. Yeah, Hines is 1660 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 1: a guy that can run like a four to three 1661 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: something forty. I mean, he's really fast, and they're starting 1662 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: to put him positions to try and get them into 1663 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: space and use that speed a little bit. That's really 1664 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: helped them in their nine game or nine out of 1665 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 1: ten game winning streak. What about the late game tomorrow 1666 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: se Evil and Dallas and what about Dak Prescott in 1667 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the postseason? What do you expect What do you think 1668 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys expect to get from him tomorrow night? Well, 1669 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 1: I think when all said and done, the Cowboys are 1670 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 1: still a run first team. They'll give the Bolt his zeke. 1671 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 1: They'll work off that. Prescott has been a quarterback that's 1672 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 1: been a little bit up and down depending on the week, 1673 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: you know. So I don't think there's any mystery is 1674 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: how they're going to try to play, you know, Prescott 1675 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson for that matter. I think both teams 1676 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,600 Speaker 1: in some ways depend on their quarterback being able to 1677 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 1: make plays outside of structure, you know, extend plays, make throws, 1678 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 1: break down the discipline of the defense. I think that's 1679 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: sort of built into the way they play. You can't 1680 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 1: count on it, and it's not like you draw it 1681 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 1: up and say, hey, let's run around today. But I 1682 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 1: think that's the way those guys play to some extent, 1683 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: and I think that they sort of count on that 1684 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 1: to happen. Certainly, Prescott did that last week against the Giants. 1685 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,799 Speaker 1: It's one reason he threw for so many yards. Russell 1686 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,599 Speaker 1: Wilson's who was murph reminded me a few minutes. Agoes 1687 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: number three in the league and touchdown passes this year, 1688 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 1: they've I really got to tip my hat to Pete 1689 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 1: Carroll and the Seahawks. You know, four years ago, five 1690 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: years ago, whatever it was, they were winning the Super 1691 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 1: Bowl with nothing but their defense and a young quarterback 1692 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 1: on his first contract. And now they have evolved into 1693 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 1: a team that is more like a stereotypical NFL team. 1694 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 1: They got a franchise quarterback and they try and build 1695 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: it around him. Talk what are your what's your opinion 1696 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,680 Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson in the year he's having They do 1697 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: when they don't steve because actually they leave the NFL 1698 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and rushing and Wilson's thrown far and away the fewest 1699 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: passes of any year in his career. So they are 1700 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 1: a run first team that then works off the run 1701 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field, and they've had great, 1702 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: great success doing that, which is why Wilson's touchdown numbers 1703 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: are so good. But they are not a throwing team, 1704 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: you know. I think what allows them to be so 1705 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 1: good on offense is the fact that Wilson can make 1706 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 1: those kinds of plays, because when you run the ball 1707 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 1: the way they do, you're asking your quarterback to convert 1708 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot on third down, and Wilson can make those 1709 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 1: kinds of plays. But they are a running team. Until 1710 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 1: recent weeks, if I'm not mistaken, they led the NFL 1711 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,839 Speaker 1: and rushing attempts as well as rushing yards. The attempts. 1712 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: They might be second now because of what Baltimore has done, 1713 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 1: but they still lead the NFL and rushing and they 1714 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 1: are clearly a run first team. You take your trading 1715 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 1: into Baltimore. Gregor with Greg Cosal, executive producer analysts for 1716 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN Baltimore, Lamar Jackson and that offense. 1717 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 1: Are they suitable for playoffs? What do you think? Well, 1718 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna ride that there's no question. You know, the 1719 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,040 Speaker 1: question of whether it's sustainable is not important. Now they're 1720 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 1: trying to get to a super Bowl and this is 1721 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, and they become you know, I've 1722 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,760 Speaker 1: been studying their tape and Lamaris started seven games, and 1723 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: they're averaging a ridiculous two hundred and thirty yards rushing 1724 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,720 Speaker 1: per game in those seven games. There's certain things that 1725 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: are a little predictable when you watch their tape as 1726 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: to how they go about running the ball. And if 1727 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: I notice that the Chargers will Now whether you stop it, 1728 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: that's a different question. But he's still going to have 1729 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: to make enough throws for them to win. Now, the 1730 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: advantage they have is their defense is really good. Just 1731 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 1: remember two weeks ago they went into the Chargers home 1732 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 1: stadium if you want to call it a home stadium, 1733 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: and they held them to ten points and one hundred 1734 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 1: ninety eight yards of total offense, far and away the 1735 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 1: worst performance by the Chargers offense all year. So they 1736 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: have a defense that can do that and that allows 1737 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 1: them to play offense the way they do. Yeah, and 1738 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,919 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Seahawks will run first, you know, offense, 1739 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens are run first, run second, and run 1740 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: third offense. I mean they if they cart, if they 1741 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,639 Speaker 1: can't run it, the Baltimore Ravens may as well stay home. 1742 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean that's they really have changed the dynamic and 1743 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 1: the paradigm for what an NFL offense is supposed to 1744 01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 1: look like, or even has to look like. Well, I 1745 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: think they're doing that now. You know again that Gray's 1746 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 1: is Steve. The question of whether that's sustainable over time, 1747 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I don't think you can 1748 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: have your quarterback have seventeen carries per game over time. 1749 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,840 Speaker 1: But right now they're not concerned about that. They're trying 1750 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 1: to ride the wave and go as far as they 1751 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: can with Lamar Jackson. Now, he's made a couple of 1752 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 1: throws here and there, even go back to that game 1753 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 1: against the Chargers two weeks ago, he hit the sixty 1754 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,760 Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown to Mark Andrews. It happened to have 1755 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,759 Speaker 1: been a great throw. Yeah, he will make the occasional 1756 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 1: great throw. But I think you're right. The question comes 1757 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: down to is how fast can Lamar Jackson evolve away 1758 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 1: from what he is into something that looks more like 1759 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback and they're gonna looks like they're gonna. 1760 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Are they gonna stick with him? You think, I mean 1761 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 1: going forward after this season? I'm obviously Oh, I think 1762 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 1: they've made My sense is from what I've heard, they've 1763 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,240 Speaker 1: made that decision. I think it pretty much understood that 1764 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco will be playing somewhere else next year. What 1765 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,320 Speaker 1: about the other quarterback, Philip Rivers? Is this his last 1766 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 1: best chance to win a championship? Do you think this year? 1767 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his last best. I think 1768 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 1: that they're a good team. I think they have one 1769 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 1: issue that could be a factor in this game, as 1770 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,600 Speaker 1: it was when they played Week sixteen, and that's I 1771 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 1: think their old line is not a great pass protecting 1772 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,719 Speaker 1: old line, and I think Philip Rivers is a master 1773 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: at being able to compensate for that in camouflage it. 1774 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,680 Speaker 1: But sometimes you can, so you know. One of the 1775 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 1: things I would say, and I don't know if they'll 1776 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,719 Speaker 1: do this, but I would look for more empty sets 1777 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,560 Speaker 1: because it forces the defense to declare. I might go 1778 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: with some no huddle tempo because it prevents the defense, 1779 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense from doing all their pre snap movement 1780 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: which they're so good at you know, I would do 1781 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,640 Speaker 1: those kinds of things to try to minimize the limitation 1782 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,719 Speaker 1: or the weakness that you have in past protection against 1783 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 1: a defense like the Ravens and Greg the late game 1784 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,760 Speaker 1: Sunday Eagles and Bears. Look, we know the Bears are 1785 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 1: good at home. We know they're a really good defensive team. 1786 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 1: But as Mitchell Trubisky up to this task, you think, 1787 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, they're an interesting offense, an interesting mix because 1788 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:24,480 Speaker 1: they have Matt Naggie, who certainly likes the ski schematics 1789 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,000 Speaker 1: of offense. But they're also a team that can be 1790 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 1: very very basic, because Mitchell Trubisky at this point in 1791 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: his career, needs some very basic things to help him out. Now. 1792 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Last week against Minnesota in the second half, he really 1793 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,200 Speaker 1: converted some third downs with throws, well defined throws. Naggie 1794 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 1: did a good job. But if he's able to do that, 1795 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: then I think they have a really good chance. You know, 1796 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 1: I think their defense is really good and will likely 1797 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 1: cause problems for the Eagles offense. All Right, gonna be 1798 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 1: a fun weekend. Greg, thank you very much for being 1799 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: with us here today. We appreciate it. Appreciate it, guys, 1800 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much great co sell executive producer and 1801 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 1: list of NFL matchup. You can catch that tomorrow three 1802 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 1: times on ESPN four am and six thirty am on 1803 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 1: ESPN eight thirty am on ESPN two. Steve, I'm guessing 1804 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 1: out get a chance to watch the eight thirty showing. 1805 01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get up at four to watch it. 1806 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:20,760 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Oh yeah, listen, Yeah, I 1807 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,720 Speaker 1: can't believe it because you watch that show. It's it's 1808 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 1: it's great. I mean they I'll tell you what, it 1809 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 1: would be better than any pregame show on any of 1810 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: the networks, No offense CBS. CBS got a pretty good 1811 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,759 Speaker 1: pream show, said great co selling that the show NFL 1812 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 1: and NFL Yeah, because they go deep, and they go 1813 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: deep deep, and they and they have some real logic. 1814 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 1: It's not just yeah, you know. They don't get into 1815 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,320 Speaker 1: all the fluff and the all of that and the 1816 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,760 Speaker 1: yeah they talk about xs and os, and they don't 1817 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 1: have six guys standing around in suits pushing each other 1818 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: and throwing the ball around. And also they get into 1819 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: the mindset of a coaching staff and how they're gonna think, 1820 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,840 Speaker 1: and that I think is one step further than pregame shows, 1821 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 1: going Greg to tell you're right about that. Executive producer 1822 01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 1: of NFL Matchup on ESPN, Senior producer NFL Films. You 1823 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: can catch NFL Matchup tomorrow three times four am, six 1824 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty am on ESPN, eight thirty am on ESPN two. 1825 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,120 Speaker 1: So you gotta be an early riser, but it'll be 1826 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: worth it at least for eight thirty DVR. There you go. 1827 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 1: Why didn't I think of that? Steve and I coming 1828 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,639 Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive 1829 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. What do you call it? One 1830 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,120 Speaker 1: Bills Live? And we come from One Bill's Drive. Little 1831 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 1: poetry there to start to set this second. Yeah, welcome 1832 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: back to the show. Joe Pascalia standingbody to join us 1833 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: in the next hour of the show, sports director at 1834 01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,639 Speaker 1: w KBW TV Channel seven and Buffalo and a stute 1835 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 1: follower of the Buffalo Bills, and we'll get him to 1836 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: weigh in on our One Bill's Live. See he said, 1837 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 1: we got to go to the top of the hour 1838 01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,160 Speaker 1: with this segment before we can bring Joe in. And 1839 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 1: I thought Joe's coming in right now. It's like it's 1840 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,760 Speaker 1: like we're gonna have five minutes with Joe. No, we're 1841 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,839 Speaker 1: gonna have a long time. That's my that's my novice 1842 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 1: radio host self speaking out there. I didn't know what 1843 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 1: the heck was going on. We're talking about our awards 1844 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,320 Speaker 1: and we'll get into more of it and when we 1845 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: come back for the next hour, and we're trying to 1846 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,439 Speaker 1: name most valuable players on offense and defense, Rookies of 1847 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,639 Speaker 1: the Year, offense and defense, comeback players. On the tweet sheets, 1848 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Tiffany Estelle her most valuable player on offense. Kind of 1849 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,000 Speaker 1: the consensus. Josh Allen on defense, Lorenzo Alexander was her 1850 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,240 Speaker 1: most valuable player. Okay, I gotta argue with that. Love. 1851 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:38,639 Speaker 1: I love Lorenzo. Rookie of the Year on defense, She's 1852 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 1: got Tremaine Edmonds. She didn't have a Rookie of the 1853 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 1: Year on offense. Gotta be Josh Allen, come back person, 1854 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,439 Speaker 1: check Lawson. And she's also says and I would like 1855 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I would have to mention Wyatt Teller. I liked his 1856 01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 1: play this year. Yeah, I mean he got inserted in 1857 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,559 Speaker 1: after a gay last nine games, eight or nine games, 1858 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,120 Speaker 1: and um seemed to hold his own. I mean it's 1859 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 1: hard for me to if yway guard play. You can'd 1860 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,840 Speaker 1: only notice them if they lets they jump off size 1861 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 1: on third and or get a third and five, or 1862 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,800 Speaker 1: get a holding penalty. But white Teller seemed to play okay, 1863 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,800 Speaker 1: seemed to do well, but he didn't get pulled out. 1864 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody else was getting sat down and put in. 1865 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 1: But White Teller's an interesting guy coming back next year 1866 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be some new faces up front. We'll 1867 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 1: see if he's actually one of them. Yeah, coming back. 1868 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 1: Also got a tweet from Jesse Hamilton. Offensive MVP was 1869 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Defensive MVP is Matt Milano. People have been 1870 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 1: chiming in about Milano a little bit today as well. 1871 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,479 Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Years Robert Foster. Defensive Rookie of 1872 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 1: the Years Tremaine Edmonds. But Levi Wallace is close, he says. 1873 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,160 Speaker 1: And of course, comeback player of the Year Shack Loss 1874 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: and those stats say was slightly better than last year. 1875 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,360 Speaker 1: This is the year where he's been the scariest he's 1876 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: ever been to go up against love what we're finally 1877 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 1: able to get from him, Shack Loss, And there's no 1878 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: question did take a step forward this year. I think 1879 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 1: people saw it he made it. And I think, you 1880 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: know the thing I'd admire most about his season. He 1881 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,560 Speaker 1: came in saying and fully acknowledging that that's what he 1882 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,599 Speaker 1: needed to do. And he said I and he committed, 1883 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,080 Speaker 1: and he self proclaimed committed himself to doing that. He 1884 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 1: came back in better shape, came back with a new attitude. 1885 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,040 Speaker 1: It was noticed by a lot of people, by us 1886 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 1: in particular, And I love it when a player takes 1887 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 1: responsibility like that, and Shack did it this year, and 1888 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,760 Speaker 1: it showed, Yeah, you know what I like. And he 1889 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of threw it in the face of everybody, even 1890 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: going back to camp, who said, well, Lawson, you know 1891 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 1: he's he's on thin ice. He's dead man walking. Shack 1892 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 1: Lawson drafted by the old regime. They're certainly not gonna 1893 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,040 Speaker 1: He didn't do much to help himself in his second year, 1894 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,040 Speaker 1: in his first year under this group, and so I 1895 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 1: would look for him to be gone. No, he went 1896 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the other way. He turned it up a notch or 1897 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,560 Speaker 1: two and became, I think, a pretty important part of 1898 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 1: what they were doing defensively by the end of the year. Yeah. 1899 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 1: I like the fact that he kind of defied the 1900 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 1: expectations and the critics and the people who wrote him 1901 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:51,880 Speaker 1: off as you know, a guy who was going to 1902 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 1: be sent packing, and it says something about see the 1903 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: decision makers here, the coaches and personnel people who yes, 1904 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,639 Speaker 1: Jack Lawson was under the previous regime, and yes, those 1905 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 1: guys sometimes look at the previous regime guys with question marks. 1906 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 1: But when you got talent like Shack Lawson and you 1907 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: put it together with effort and hard work, they're they're 1908 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 1: not going to just send you packing because somebody else 1909 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: drafted you here. That's important, that's really true. Kyle Williams 1910 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,479 Speaker 1: is a great example. If you, if you, if you 1911 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 1: perform a role in a function that even outside the 1912 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,880 Speaker 1: lines like um, like Kyle did, like some of the 1913 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: other guys did. Shack Lawson is a perfect example of 1914 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,280 Speaker 1: a guy who they gave an opportunity to uh. And 1915 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,080 Speaker 1: I think also they also pushed the right buttons and 1916 01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: you can say, well, it's a pretty expensive button to push. Hey, 1917 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,120 Speaker 1: bringing in Trent Murphy's said, probably said something to Shack 1918 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 1: Lawson too. I mean, huh, listen, it's it's put up 1919 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 1: or shut up. We got a guy here we're gonna 1920 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: put in. And now certainly Trent Murphy still was still 1921 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,160 Speaker 1: dealing with the injury and he didn't have the kind 1922 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,920 Speaker 1: of year you would hope he had. But certainly Shack 1923 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 1: Lawson performed every bit as well and in certain cases 1924 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,920 Speaker 1: was put ahead of him. So m the fact that 1925 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Lawson was healthy all year and available helps. Coaching staffs 1926 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 1: love that and they put a high premium on a 1927 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,759 Speaker 1: guy who's available. Look at the hardware going out, because 1928 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,200 Speaker 1: this awards not really the trophies off the shelves. And 1929 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,320 Speaker 1: then for the offensive and defensive players, Rookies of the Year, 1930 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 1: Comeback Player the Year. We're gonna talk more about this 1931 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,559 Speaker 1: in the third and final hour of the show. Job 1932 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 1: Bascalia Joe b from w KBW TV Channel seven and 1933 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo their sports director. We'll get his thoughts on all 1934 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,400 Speaker 1: of these awards, his thoughts on who are the potential 1935 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 1: free agents. He wrote about this at WKW dot com. 1936 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Potential free agents to keep an eye on in the 1937 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 1: wildcard games this weekend. All of that coming up when 1938 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 1: we return. John Murphy Steam Tasker One Bills Live from 1939 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Blow 1940 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Game Update from One Bill's drive. 1941 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 1: Danny Crossman is gone as the Bill special teams coordinator, 1942 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,640 Speaker 1: fired yesterday by head coach Sean McDermott. Usmon joined the 1943 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,479 Speaker 1: Bills in twenty thirteen, came in under Doug Moron. It's 1944 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 1: been a couple of years with Moron, a couple of 1945 01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 1: years with Rect Ryan, and then the last two years 1946 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,919 Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott. He has gone now. No official announcement 1947 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 1: yet from the Bills. The Wildcard playoff weekend approaches a 1948 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,640 Speaker 1: couple of games Tomorrow four thirty five pm Indianapolis at 1949 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: Houston in the AFC Wild Card Game, followed by Seattle 1950 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,599 Speaker 1: and Dallas tomorrow night, and then on Sunday one o'clock 1951 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Chargers in Baltimore in Baltimore and the Eagles and the 1952 01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears following that. The end of the Pro Football 1953 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 1: of Fame has revealed its fifteen finalists for the class 1954 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. The finalists among a group of ninety 1955 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 1: two players and eleven coaches that were initially named nominees. 1956 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 1: Among the fifteen finalists, former chief said Antoni Gonzalez, former 1957 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 1: Colts and Cardinals running back Edgar and James, and former 1958 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 1: Ravens and Jets safety Ed Reid. They'll all be introduced. 1959 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,759 Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame will introduce the five 1960 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,599 Speaker 1: new and shrines on Saturday, February second, the day before 1961 01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,519 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Atlanta. Else Around the National Football League, 1962 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 1: Lions general manager Bob Quinn says the team can win 1963 01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford. He is not open 1964 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 1: to trading the thirty year old quarterback. He believes they 1965 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 1: can still win a Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford. Elsewhere 1966 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 1: around sports world, the Buffalo Sabers came up with a 1967 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,759 Speaker 1: win last night. Jeff Skinner with two goals is twenty 1968 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,600 Speaker 1: seventh and twenty eighth of the season. Sabers beat the 1969 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,640 Speaker 1: Florida Panthers four to three. Buffalo practicing today, they head 1970 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 1: out to Boston tomorrow night. They played the Bruins in Boston. 1971 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 1: The Sabers and Bruin each with fifty points this season. 1972 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 1: Boston coming off a win over Calgary. You Be Basketball 1973 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,920 Speaker 1: back on the court tonight, the twentieth ranked Bulls play 1974 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,240 Speaker 1: at Eastern Michigan, their first game in Mid American Conference play. 1975 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,759 Speaker 1: The third straight years of the Bulls have opened against 1976 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 1: the MAC West. You Be Number twenty in both the 1977 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,920 Speaker 1: AP and coaches polls. This week they had twelve wins 1978 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 1: and one loss. That's the update from One Bill Strive, 1979 01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,880 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Casker in our One Buffalo Studio special 1980 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 1: guest in studio with us for a couple of segments here, 1981 01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,360 Speaker 1: happy to have a sports director from WKBWTB Channel seven 1982 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,600 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Joe Bascallion with us. Hi, Joe, thank you 1983 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,160 Speaker 1: coming about gentlemen. Thanks for having me. I've spent a 1984 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,680 Speaker 1: long time since we had you in here, and we 1985 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 1: were just talking about it. It was it was training 1986 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 1: camp when I know, time flies, especially with the season. 1987 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,720 Speaker 1: You get into the nitty gritty and then it's done 1988 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,559 Speaker 1: with and then it's you're like, okay, now now it's 1989 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:20,080 Speaker 1: all downhill. Yeah. It goes so fast, and we're talking 1990 01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 1: this is my tomorrow beginning or like in an hour, 1991 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,400 Speaker 1: my my first weekend off September, because we're going, you know, 1992 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 1: seventeen weeks. We're hitting it hard and we're busy. I mean, 1993 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 1: it's our busy time of the week in the media, 1994 01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,000 Speaker 1: a year in the media, and it's when it stops. 1995 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 1: The separation is palpable. Yeah right, I mean, wow, I 1996 01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 1: want them to do. What do you I know you're 1997 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,479 Speaker 1: working at Channel seven, but right, what do you do 1998 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 1: with all your free weekend time? Now? Joe? Well, um, 1999 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 1: I get to be able to like plan some excursions 2000 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 1: fend time to time. That that'll be nice, But really 2001 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 1: it's trying to figure out more ideas for because this 2002 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 1: is a crucial off season for the Bills coming, and 2003 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean just in free agency, how much cap room 2004 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,479 Speaker 1: they have with all the draft picks that they have. 2005 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like one of the most crucial 2006 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,600 Speaker 1: off seasons probably for the being a McDermott regime. So 2007 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,960 Speaker 1: it's even though the season just ended, it's like, all right, 2008 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,080 Speaker 1: how do I get this thing going again? Because Bills fans, 2009 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,920 Speaker 1: I think, are still really hungry for information, especially because 2010 01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 1: of the way that things just ended for the team. 2011 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,719 Speaker 1: So it's it's going to be a fun off season, 2012 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,880 Speaker 1: no doubt. Certainly they've got some foundational pieces in place. 2013 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen obviously trained ends. We've been talking about some 2014 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,600 Speaker 1: of the postseason awards that have gone on. They've got 2015 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys that really liked said okay, 2016 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 1: all right, we got a guy, right, So there's a 2017 01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,639 Speaker 1: couple of guys like that, but there's also some things 2018 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 1: they desperately need and they desperately need to change. They've 2019 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 1: got ninety million plus dollars in cap space and the 2020 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 1: in the off season, they've got ten draft picks, and 2021 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,960 Speaker 1: you've started with some research on what maybe free agents 2022 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,639 Speaker 1: may surface for the Buffalo Bills coming out. Yeah, it's 2023 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,760 Speaker 1: just really because I feel like the hunger for just 2024 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to see what the Bills could do in free 2025 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,439 Speaker 1: agency is just so huge out there with Bills fans 2026 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: right now that they actually still have opportunities to, you know, 2027 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,400 Speaker 1: finger quotes scout these guys on Saturday and Sunday during 2028 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I trotted out a name or two 2029 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 1: from each one of the teams. I just posted the 2030 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,439 Speaker 1: Sunday games today and it ranges from wide receivers to 2031 01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: tight ends, to running backs to offensive line. No Chiefs 2032 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 1: are there. And these are the free ages that are 2033 01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: playing this week. Yeah, this isn't just like all around 2034 01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:32,760 Speaker 1: the league. These are just the guys you might be 2035 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 1: able to catch a glimpse of. Like friends of the 2036 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,720 Speaker 1: guy that's pictured on the front is Cole Beasley from 2037 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. The slot receiver. Yeah, the Cowboys were one 2038 01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: of the tough teams because the Bills really don't need 2039 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 1: a slot receiver. But if out of the crop that 2040 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:49,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have, Cole Beasley would make the most sense 2041 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,280 Speaker 1: of them. But I mean, then you have other guys 2042 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,519 Speaker 1: like Mark Lowinski from the Colts who just has become 2043 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 1: an upstart starter for them in the last half of 2044 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:57,880 Speaker 1: the season when they went on their eight and one 2045 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 1: stretch and he's there starting right guard and he's now 2046 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,640 Speaker 1: in his fourth season out of West Virginia. And get this, 2047 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,360 Speaker 1: an hour and a half away from where Sean McDermott 2048 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,439 Speaker 1: went to school high school. That's so there's kind of 2049 01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 1: that bond there. And then you've of the ones I 2050 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,120 Speaker 1: posted today, like the tight end from Baltimore, Max Williams, 2051 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,680 Speaker 1: who is a former second round pick. He's going to 2052 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 1: be an unrestricted free agent, a super athletic guy, hasn't 2053 01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 1: really lived up to his potential just yet and might 2054 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,960 Speaker 1: be that lower tier guy. And then you've got your 2055 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,639 Speaker 1: Bobby Masses of the world, the right tackle from Chicago 2056 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 1: Tyrrell Williams, which is a very popular one amongst Bills fans. 2057 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,280 Speaker 1: The Chargers receivers so there's a lot of guys to 2058 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 1: keep your eye on, and even some special teams guys 2059 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,360 Speaker 1: as well, because we all know that the Bills need 2060 01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,480 Speaker 1: some upgrades. There. W KBW TV sports director Joe Bascouia 2061 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 1: in studio with us. He's posted is a list on 2062 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 1: wkww dot com potential Bills free agency targets to watch. 2063 01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,680 Speaker 1: And you started with Saturday. You started with the guy 2064 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,320 Speaker 1: who I just kind of got on my radar screen. 2065 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,240 Speaker 1: The Bills played the Colts way back in October twenty first, 2066 01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 1: I think it was. But they have the rookie guard, 2067 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 1: but Mark Glowinski getting a lot of ray reviews. He'll 2068 01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,519 Speaker 1: be a free agent, right. Tell me about Glowinski, the 2069 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 1: right guard for the Colts and why he might be 2070 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 1: a potential fit here. Well, he was. He wasn't supposed 2071 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 1: to start this year. It was supposed to be Matt 2072 01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:16,280 Speaker 1: Slawson's job, and then Slawson had vertebrate issues and you know, 2073 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 1: was almost on the verge of paralysis according to reports. 2074 01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,200 Speaker 1: So they put Glowinski into the lineup and he has 2075 01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 1: been outstanding for them and still I think he's twenty 2076 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,559 Speaker 1: six going on twenty seven, three four years in the league. Yeah, 2077 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:32,960 Speaker 1: this is his fourth year in the league and he's 2078 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: on his second team now, so it's some offensive lineman. 2079 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 1: It takes a little bit longer to stick as as 2080 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,560 Speaker 1: we well know, and really just for younger players. But 2081 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:44,519 Speaker 1: he has flourished with this Indianapolis offensive line and has 2082 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,760 Speaker 1: really helped complete it. And I'm not going to sit 2083 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,479 Speaker 1: here and tell you that a guard was the reason 2084 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,120 Speaker 1: for a turnaround for the Indianapolis Colts, but their offensive 2085 01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,720 Speaker 1: line play at the maybe two guards, yeah, on the 2086 01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 1: whole has been a catalyst for them to really establish themselves. 2087 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: Keep Andrew Luck upright, allow him to be the player 2088 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 1: that he we know he can be, and for them 2089 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,080 Speaker 1: to go on an eight and one run. I remember 2090 01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,960 Speaker 1: watching their film when they were one in five about 2091 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 1: to play the Bills. I'm like, that looks like a 2092 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 1: playoff team to me. And even though they were one 2093 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 1: in five, just circumstances and well in the hold and 2094 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,880 Speaker 1: one goes along and and there they are in the 2095 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,040 Speaker 1: playoffs against the Never be a good matchup for them 2096 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,720 Speaker 1: to go against the Texans defensive line to get a real, true, 2097 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,200 Speaker 1: accurate read on how good these guys are, how good 2098 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 1: Glowing in sky for sure. So keep your eye on 2099 01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,400 Speaker 1: the right guard. I even put his jersey number on 2100 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 1: the article so you can see exactly what you're looking into. 2101 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 1: Although I will say it's tough just because you want 2102 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:36,840 Speaker 1: to be able to see from the end zone angle 2103 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 1: with the coaches film, but still you can get a 2104 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 1: pretty good gauge about who the guy is and how 2105 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 1: he kind of goes about his business and if he 2106 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 1: could be a potential fit here as a starter. Make 2107 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 1: sure you're looking at the right guard, because the left 2108 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,120 Speaker 1: guard you'll wish you had two. When Nelson he was 2109 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,679 Speaker 1: the first overall, their fifth overall pick, and he is. Yeah, 2110 01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: he's a monster m and has played extremely. U was 2111 01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,960 Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl at after his rookie sees 2112 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 1: and as a right guard, which I think how hard 2113 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: that is to do. That's how good he has been. 2114 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,360 Speaker 1: So he's been a solidifying factor. But you're right, and 2115 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,559 Speaker 1: it goes further down the list. They also the bills. 2116 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 1: You got to think started thinking about tackles as well. 2117 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, yea offensive line is offensive line, and you've 2118 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:18,759 Speaker 1: got Kendall Lamb number seventy four for the Texans also 2119 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 1: on your list. Yeah, an Appalachian State guide. So you 2120 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 1: know Brandon Bean knows about him North being from North Carolina, right, 2121 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 1: and he's right from the North Carolina area too, where 2122 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,640 Speaker 1: he went to high school. Lamb is sort of a 2123 01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 1: maybe a stop gap depth start if you need him 2124 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,000 Speaker 1: to sort of guy. He wasn't slated to start, just 2125 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 1: like Glowinski, but the Bills could really use anything along 2126 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line, whether it be starters, depth, what have you, 2127 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 1: and they just want competition. So if you strike out 2128 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,080 Speaker 1: with a guy like that I profiled today from the Bears, 2129 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,439 Speaker 1: Bobby Massey, who is going to be thirty years old 2130 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,320 Speaker 1: next year, has started six seasons in his career and 2131 01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,280 Speaker 1: it is probably going to get a pretty substantial sum 2132 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,320 Speaker 1: if you strike out there, then Lamb is someone that 2133 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of go to say, all right, this 2134 01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 1: guy started last year. Maybe he's in a competition with 2135 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,599 Speaker 1: Connor McDermott. Doesn't rule out the fact that they could 2136 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,320 Speaker 1: draft a tackle in the first, second or third round 2137 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,519 Speaker 1: to compete. And so Lamb is another one of those 2138 01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,680 Speaker 1: guys where he did the job well enough to make 2139 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,680 Speaker 1: you think, all right, well, you can bring him on 2140 01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,479 Speaker 1: a mid tier contract and see if he sticks. If 2141 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 1: he does it, so be it. It's not a big ress. 2142 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:19,560 Speaker 1: And that's the big thing as well. You want to 2143 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,840 Speaker 1: these second tier guys like this, like Kendall Lamb. You're 2144 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,920 Speaker 1: not gonna pay him ten million bucks a year as 2145 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,640 Speaker 1: you might get him for three, four or five and 2146 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: that and sound. It's a lot of money, don't get 2147 01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: me wrong. It's a ton of money. But in the 2148 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,080 Speaker 1: big scheme of the NFL landscape, for a starting right tackle, 2149 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,840 Speaker 1: that is below average, and that's actually a bargain. If 2150 01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 1: you can get a guy fined, a guy like that 2151 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 1: and the guys you're the other guys you're talking about, 2152 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 1: the guy from Chicago, Massey whatever, you are going to 2153 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,599 Speaker 1: pay those guys eight, ten, twelve million bucks a year. 2154 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,320 Speaker 1: And that's that's not for a left tackle. That's for 2155 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, and that's hard to put together an offensive 2156 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,040 Speaker 1: line when you're overpaying for one or two spots. Now, 2157 01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 1: there are a couple of variables here. I'm basing their 2158 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,720 Speaker 1: potential interest on Bobby Massey on a couple of different things. One, 2159 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,840 Speaker 1: if they feel comfortable enough with Dion Dawkins starting at 2160 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:11,360 Speaker 1: left tackles for twenty nineteen. And secondly, because of the 2161 01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,880 Speaker 1: fact that they were in on the Rick Wagner sweepstakes 2162 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen before he eventually went to the Lions, 2163 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 1: So if the Bills were willing to give that type 2164 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,679 Speaker 1: of money, However, Brandon Bean wasn't there at that point 2165 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,160 Speaker 1: in time, so we don't know how he's going to 2166 01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,840 Speaker 1: operate in free agency and his potential thoughts on adding 2167 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:30,120 Speaker 1: a right tackle. So I think if they were to 2168 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,240 Speaker 1: think of to themselves, all right, right tackle is a 2169 01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:36,600 Speaker 1: massive need. You know, no pun intended. Bobby Massey is 2170 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,640 Speaker 1: right there, so you had You also had one on 2171 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 1: your list of Seattle running back Mike Davis number twenties 2172 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,800 Speaker 1: and none to Seattle, and we just had Greg Cosell on. 2173 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,200 Speaker 1: Seattle runs the ball as much as anybody in the league. 2174 01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,920 Speaker 1: Will not as much as Baltimore, but they are run first. 2175 01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,280 Speaker 1: They led the league in attempts that kind of thing. 2176 01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,840 Speaker 1: And so this is a running back who knows what 2177 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,160 Speaker 1: it is to be on a run first. You're gonna 2178 01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,599 Speaker 1: get plenty of opportunities to see him run the football. 2179 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you put him as high on the list 2180 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 1: at all, right, murphyll Tell, I think running backs are 2181 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,320 Speaker 1: a diamond, doesn't yeah, I agree, and I don't think 2182 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,840 Speaker 1: he'll be that much again. Seattle was one of those 2183 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:10,040 Speaker 1: teams where it's like, all right, well, what do you 2184 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:13,559 Speaker 1: choose here? Like you looked at their cornerback, Justin Coleman. 2185 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,599 Speaker 1: He's a nickel guy. They have Tarn Johnson, so there's 2186 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,560 Speaker 1: really no no reason to do any of that. But 2187 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 1: running back they could stand to do two things. Get 2188 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 1: younger and get better. And Mike Davis doesn't have a 2189 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 1: lot of miles on the tires. He has shown a 2190 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:32,080 Speaker 1: really aggressive hit the whole style of running. And I 2191 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,240 Speaker 1: think for them if if they were to do something 2192 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:39,000 Speaker 1: like that, it would also free up the potential to 2193 01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,280 Speaker 1: release Chris Ivory, who would save them two point two 2194 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 1: five million on the twenty nineteen count. You know, I 2195 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,720 Speaker 1: was thinking about running backs and this week again, Joe, 2196 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,000 Speaker 1: and I want to get your take on this. Regardless 2197 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,519 Speaker 1: of the year that Lashan McCoy has had this year, 2198 01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't good they'd be in the market for a 2199 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,720 Speaker 1: running back. They have to be. Yeah, they do, And 2200 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 1: I want you to talk about Dan and part two. 2201 01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 1: Are you surprised the renewed commitment they've had to Shady 2202 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 1: again this week? Slightly. Yeah, me too, I am slightly 2203 01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,599 Speaker 1: surprised by that, just because you would think he's kind 2204 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 1: of on the wrong side. Yeah, I think they're pinning 2205 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of their frustration on the offensive line, the 2206 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 1: lack of cohesiveness, and you know, rightfully so it was 2207 01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 1: a house of horrors at time throughout the season. But 2208 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,639 Speaker 1: I do think that there is part of Lashawn McCoy 2209 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 1: here that was his own worst enemy. I mean, I 2210 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,120 Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times when I was watching 2211 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,240 Speaker 1: the coaches film, just sitting there going why aren't you 2212 01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 1: taking the yardage? Why aren't you taking the yardage? Why 2213 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 1: are you being hesitant? Why are you trying to kick 2214 01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 1: it outside when there's a clear hole for four yards there. 2215 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,160 Speaker 1: So this is Lashawn McCoy, I think, perhaps trying to 2216 01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,759 Speaker 1: do too much when he has some room to operate. 2217 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,720 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, there are some plays where 2218 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 1: the center gets pushed all the way back and he 2219 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 1: just has no shot whatsoever. And you did see in 2220 01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:56,320 Speaker 1: the final game of the week or final game of 2221 01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: the season, it gets Miami him actually start to be 2222 01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,240 Speaker 1: able to move in space a little bit, but even 2223 01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 1: that seemed just a tick slower than it used to be, 2224 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,960 Speaker 1: so I am a little surprised, but I do go 2225 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,559 Speaker 1: back to what Carolina did always in all of their decisions, 2226 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,720 Speaker 1: because they've done a lot of the same thing so far, 2227 01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:16,719 Speaker 1: and they always had an older running back on the roster, 2228 01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,800 Speaker 1: whether it be Jonathan Stewart, D'Angelo Williams, to kind of 2229 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,320 Speaker 1: mentor and foster the growth of younger guys. And I 2230 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,840 Speaker 1: do think it is a very big thing in this 2231 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,160 Speaker 1: offseason for the Bills to add a running back of youth, 2232 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Davis. Notwithstanding, I think they need a 2233 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,760 Speaker 1: draft one bar none, somewhere in the first four maybe 2234 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,280 Speaker 1: five rounds. You need a draft running back. Joe Pascalia 2235 01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: from WKBWTV Channel seven and Buffalo wrote on their website 2236 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 1: today and yesterday about potential Bills free agency targets playing 2237 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,920 Speaker 1: this weekend in the wild card. You talked about Cole Beasley. 2238 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,839 Speaker 1: We're all interested in receivers, any other receivers either tomorrow 2239 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,679 Speaker 1: or Sunday, we should keep an eye on. Yeah. Tyrell 2240 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,439 Speaker 1: Williams is the one of the weekend for Bills fans, 2241 01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 1: and he's a very popular one amongst fans out there 2242 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,120 Speaker 1: because if you say the word Devin Funcius or the 2243 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 1: name Devin Funchius. To Bills fans, it's essentially akin to 2244 01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,960 Speaker 1: a four letter word because of what happened with Calvin Benjamin. 2245 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,120 Speaker 1: Even though Devin Funcius and Tyrell Williams, I mean, their 2246 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 1: stats really aren't that much different here. But Williams, big 2247 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,080 Speaker 1: guy six to four two oh five, has really good 2248 01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 1: speed for that size, go up and get it type, 2249 01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,000 Speaker 1: and it seems like it would be a good fit 2250 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,519 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen and how he likes to push the 2251 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,360 Speaker 1: ball down the field, because that's kind of what Williams 2252 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,040 Speaker 1: does now. Williams is not a true to form number 2253 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 1: one receiver. He's a complimentary option. And this is kind 2254 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,320 Speaker 1: of something I've been thinking about, and I'm interested to 2255 01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,120 Speaker 1: hear your guys thoughts as well. With wide receivers as 2256 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:41,800 Speaker 1: a whole, I mean, what is it to be a 2257 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,559 Speaker 1: number one receiver anymore? I mean, is it absolutely necessary 2258 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,719 Speaker 1: for teams to have this bona fide number one Julio Jones, 2259 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,519 Speaker 1: AJ Green, Odell Beckham type or can you get along 2260 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,400 Speaker 1: with a stable of number two's? I mean, that's that 2261 01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,080 Speaker 1: might just have to be the way that the Bills 2262 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,920 Speaker 1: operate things because that number one guy. He is not 2263 01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 1: as prevalent in today's draft society as he once was, 2264 01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,160 Speaker 1: so I wonder if I wonder if that might be 2265 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,600 Speaker 1: the way they kind of go. I think it's the 2266 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: total sum of the package. If you've got two twos, 2267 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times that's well, two twos and a three, 2268 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, equal one to two and a three. You 2269 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:23,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you've got two really good twos, 2270 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,920 Speaker 1: it amounts to how thin the defense is spread. If 2271 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,200 Speaker 1: they've got one guy that draws a lot of attention, 2272 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,439 Speaker 1: you've got to have a guy good enough on the 2273 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,639 Speaker 1: other side to take advantage of single coverage or whatever. 2274 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,240 Speaker 1: And and if you've got two guys and they've got 2275 01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,640 Speaker 1: a single one of them, one of them, they got 2276 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,320 Speaker 1: to be able to both win one on one. It 2277 01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they have to do it every play, but 2278 01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,519 Speaker 1: they certainly have to have a threat. And if you 2279 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,320 Speaker 1: go three deep, if you've got three twos, yeah, yea, 2280 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, right, So you don't need to be two. 2281 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,400 Speaker 1: But you got to have a matchup. You got to 2282 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,680 Speaker 1: have a matchup problem. So if you go deep enough 2283 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,639 Speaker 1: and quality enough in your receiver and corps, you don't 2284 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,479 Speaker 1: have a guy that everybody's afraid of. But if you've 2285 01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,240 Speaker 1: got three guys that they don't know how to handle, 2286 01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:07,439 Speaker 1: it's the same thing, which is why a slot receiver 2287 01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,120 Speaker 1: is so critical. If you've got a guy in there 2288 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,639 Speaker 1: that you know, he's like, it's like me, he looks 2289 01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 1: like a hood ornament. It mean, he's a little whatever. 2290 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,360 Speaker 1: But they you know, they got a match up with him. 2291 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:16,920 Speaker 1: They don't have anybody can go mat one on one 2292 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're they're doubling team and 2293 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,800 Speaker 1: a guy that looks like a travel gnome like me. 2294 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,960 Speaker 1: That's a huge plus for your offense. The defense has 2295 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:28,320 Speaker 1: to It doesn't matter if you're a number one, but 2296 01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: you're this little guy who can get open in the 2297 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,920 Speaker 1: slot that causes big problems on the outside, and all 2298 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,839 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the guy like Josh takes big advantage 2299 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,720 Speaker 1: of it with his arm. So it's not so much 2300 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 1: that they have it. You want a great player, no 2301 01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 1: question about it, because they'll win fifty fifty balls. They 2302 01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,320 Speaker 1: won't ever get single covered or if you move him around, 2303 01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,280 Speaker 1: the defense sometimes missus communication and they get open that way. 2304 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,240 Speaker 1: But you do need enough out there going down five 2305 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,479 Speaker 1: deep right that the defense can't match up somewhere, and 2306 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,080 Speaker 1: one of those five could be a tight end tail right, 2307 01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,519 Speaker 1: I mean, or running back whatever, a move tight end 2308 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,080 Speaker 1: that can that can get out some space and actually 2309 01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,599 Speaker 1: threatened the defense as opposed to maybe what the Bills 2310 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,200 Speaker 1: had this year. I mean, there were so many lack 2311 01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,519 Speaker 1: of weapons. For Josh Allen. It all comes down to 2312 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,719 Speaker 1: excess nose, because yeah, if you got a big number one, Okay, 2313 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,880 Speaker 1: you got all that that gives you, then all of 2314 01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, you can spend your roster in other spots. 2315 01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,960 Speaker 1: You can get another extra running back. You don't need 2316 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 1: to take two more wide receivers to cover up, you know, 2317 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,800 Speaker 1: to go deep, you can and you throw your money 2318 01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,120 Speaker 1: someplace else too. I got a defensive back or something. 2319 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,720 Speaker 1: So the better the more elite players you get, the 2320 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,280 Speaker 1: more economical you can work your rosters. Joe, we know 2321 01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:34,640 Speaker 1: free agency comes first before the draft. We know the 2322 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 1: Bills are gonna have money to spend, but we also 2323 01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,960 Speaker 1: have heard you heard it too from Brandon Bean. He 2324 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 1: is definitely trying to dampen expectations for a big splash 2325 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,280 Speaker 1: free agent, which I think is smart. They don't need 2326 01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 1: to make a big splash. They have a lot of play, 2327 01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,760 Speaker 1: a position to address, and need to spread that money 2328 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,880 Speaker 1: around a little bit. I think, yeah, you're totally right. 2329 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,360 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why when I wrote about the 2330 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,599 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, someone tweeted back to me and go, well, 2331 01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,479 Speaker 1: isn't Clowney a free agent. I'm like, if you think 2332 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: the Bills are seriously gonna go over after jadeveon Clowny, 2333 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,240 Speaker 1: you weren't listening on Monday. They're just not going to 2334 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,640 Speaker 1: make that huge splash, although I think they can make 2335 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,519 Speaker 1: a somewhat substantial splash, like a mini splash, which is 2336 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 1: what Bobby Massey would be, like a right tackle to 2337 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,360 Speaker 1: come in and help fill one of the three to 2338 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 1: four spots on the starting lineup that you have on 2339 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:26,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line. So the Clowney range is just the 2340 01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,200 Speaker 1: Mario Williams range. Just keep dreaming. And he's also yeah, 2341 01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,840 Speaker 1: he's also said too, and I think for good reasons. Listen, 2342 01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,640 Speaker 1: they may not spend all the ninety million. There may 2343 01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,320 Speaker 1: not be guys out. They're gonna make sure that he 2344 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 1: sat here earlier this week and said, listen it it's 2345 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,960 Speaker 1: all about the value. I mean, they'll trade down. They'll 2346 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,440 Speaker 1: trade sideways. They'll get value for whatever. If they've got 2347 01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:46,840 Speaker 1: a guy. If they got the number nine pick and 2348 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,000 Speaker 1: there's nobody there that's worth a first round, they'll get 2349 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:51,960 Speaker 1: out of it. They don't want to waste a number. 2350 01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: At least they'll try to. They'll try to they if 2351 01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,680 Speaker 1: there's not value there. So I think they'll probably approach 2352 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,720 Speaker 1: free agency the same way. There's a good chance, depending 2353 01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:01,440 Speaker 1: on what what the market is and who's out there 2354 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,360 Speaker 1: and what's happened, that they may have twenty five or 2355 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,760 Speaker 1: thirty million left of that cap space at the end 2356 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 1: of free agency because they just couldn't get somebody to 2357 01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: sign for that value. And to your point, no one 2358 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,360 Speaker 1: says you have to spend it all this offseason because 2359 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,200 Speaker 1: you can roll it over and you also have other 2360 01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:23,040 Speaker 1: contracts coming off the books. I Lashawn McCoy, even though 2361 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,280 Speaker 1: they have committed to him in twenty nineteen or so, 2362 01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,160 Speaker 1: we are led to believe at this point then his 2363 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,600 Speaker 1: eight and a half million cap hit is gone next year. 2364 01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,560 Speaker 1: And there's so many other examples, like Russell Bodine is 2365 01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,000 Speaker 1: accounting for like two and a half two point seventy 2366 01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,200 Speaker 1: five million, vlad Dukas is accounting for two and a 2367 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,040 Speaker 1: half million, Chris Ivory's accounting for three million. These things 2368 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,840 Speaker 1: that up. So where if they only spend say forty 2369 01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,280 Speaker 1: to fifty million, they're gonna have forty to fifty million 2370 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,960 Speaker 1: again next year. Yeah? Yeah, at least job scouting you 2371 01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,000 Speaker 1: from Channel seven US with us. We're coming back for more. 2372 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,760 Speaker 1: We want to get Joe's thoughts on our one Bills 2373 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,520 Speaker 1: Live twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills Awards, and a couple of 2374 01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,720 Speaker 1: other issues. So come on back. It is one Bills 2375 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Wheels Drive. This 2376 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:13,600 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio one Goals Live from one Wheels Drive. 2377 01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,200 Speaker 1: Jam Murphy steep Tasker were joined by Jova Scalia, sports 2378 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,839 Speaker 1: director at w KBW TV Channel seven here in Buffalo. 2379 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:20,560 Speaker 1: You leave here and you're gonna go ahead right down 2380 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,600 Speaker 1: to seven broadcast Plaza. Right, that's right? What the platforce 2381 01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:31,080 Speaker 1: do you? I'm into it? Yeah? Yes, I started. My 2382 01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 1: My first internship was at Channel seven? Was it really? 2383 01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 1: How did I not know this? Oh? Oh he was 2384 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:39,720 Speaker 1: big time man, big of a big time intern. I 2385 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,360 Speaker 1: went to my stuff, I went to my no, not 2386 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:45,520 Speaker 1: in my internship years. I went to my first Pro Bowl, 2387 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,240 Speaker 1: and that offseason started an intern unpaid internship at Channel seven. 2388 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,000 Speaker 1: I was there for a couple of years. Wow, and uh, 2389 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,440 Speaker 1: I can't I went. I did a full first offseason, 2390 01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,240 Speaker 1: and then I came back the second year and asked 2391 01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,600 Speaker 1: if I could do it again, and they go, oh, 2392 01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 1: you're serious, like they just thought I was, you know, 2393 01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 1: checking it out. Oh yeah, I'm serious. So then then 2394 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 1: they started give me some stuff to do. That's going 2395 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,680 Speaker 1: to the Steve Tasker Show. Remember that, Well that kind 2396 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,200 Speaker 1: of grew into the steam task Actually I was a guest, 2397 01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:16,480 Speaker 1: a regular guest on AM Buffalo, and the first year 2398 01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 1: I did that, we went to the super Bowl. Then 2399 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,840 Speaker 1: I had my so I actually oh that you know, actually, 2400 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:26,320 Speaker 1: Jim Bruce Thurman andre more than anything else when they 2401 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:27,920 Speaker 1: took us to the super Bowl and I got my 2402 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 1: own show. Springboarder to your career exactly. Ask Redford about this. 2403 01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,240 Speaker 1: He's full of wives tales. Oh yeah, he's got he's 2404 01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,720 Speaker 1: got stories. All right, here's what we've been doing today, Joe. 2405 01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,720 Speaker 1: Since noon today, we brought out the trophies to award 2406 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 1: the two eighteen Buffalo Bills one Bills Live Award. I 2407 01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:46,480 Speaker 1: want to get your take on these some of these 2408 01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,920 Speaker 1: awards Offensive Most Valuable Player. We think this is a gimme. 2409 01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,200 Speaker 1: I had Josh Allen, Steve had Josh Allen. Your thoughts, Yeah, 2410 01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,120 Speaker 1: it's gotta have to agree with this. Please, No, it 2411 01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,000 Speaker 1: has to be Josh Allen because there's no other player 2412 01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:04,120 Speaker 1: that came in and reshaped the entire I guess storyline 2413 01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:08,160 Speaker 1: about the offense than the rookie quarterback. And I mean, 2414 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,640 Speaker 1: I suppose you could make an argument for another player 2415 01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,560 Speaker 1: that played the entirety of the season, but it was 2416 01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 1: night and day after he came back from from his 2417 01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 1: injury and from the bye week. I mean, he was 2418 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,800 Speaker 1: the best player on the field almost every single week 2419 01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:26,080 Speaker 1: for them. And that I mean, there's there's no other 2420 01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 1: logical candidate that it could be on offense. And it 2421 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:31,880 Speaker 1: almost makes me feel like it should disqualify him from 2422 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,440 Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year, which just because if he 2423 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,640 Speaker 1: was the MVP. That I mean the same kind of 2424 01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,920 Speaker 1: way as like Darius Leonard was named the defensive rookie 2425 01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,920 Speaker 1: or player of the month, right, that made Tremaine Edmonds 2426 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,040 Speaker 1: the rookie of the month. We'll talk about the rookie 2427 01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,040 Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year. But one thing, and you 2428 01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that his return from the elbow injury, is there 2429 01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 1: anything that changed you think in his approach. I'm talking 2430 01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 1: about Josh here. His approach is the way he played 2431 01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:00,200 Speaker 1: the position. How did it get so dramatically different? Don't 2432 01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 1: even when he returned for the Jacksonville game. Well, he 2433 01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,520 Speaker 1: saw the little things that of where he made progress 2434 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 1: from week to week. I think the area that he 2435 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,880 Speaker 1: took the biggest stride based on what I saw from 2436 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,160 Speaker 1: him watching his games all the way back to Wyoming, 2437 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,920 Speaker 1: was a player that was more willing to stand in 2438 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,280 Speaker 1: the pocket than what he had done previously. And that's 2439 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:24,960 Speaker 1: a tough thing to coach, especially when you have that 2440 01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:27,520 Speaker 1: type of offensive line in front of you. Now, granted 2441 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:28,920 Speaker 1: he had a lot of rushing yards, A lot of 2442 01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 1: that was basically survival because he had to get out 2443 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:34,720 Speaker 1: from the pocket because I don't know, something happened to 2444 01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:36,040 Speaker 1: the right side of the line or something happened to 2445 01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:40,320 Speaker 1: the center. But for him, the pocket presence, going through 2446 01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:44,360 Speaker 1: his progressions, like reading the field pre snap, these are 2447 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:47,040 Speaker 1: all things that he has vastly improved upon it and 2448 01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:50,240 Speaker 1: even some of his footwork too. I mean there was 2449 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,800 Speaker 1: something I made mention of. I don't know if you 2450 01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:56,280 Speaker 1: recall in the build up to the training camp where 2451 01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 1: when he would throw a left he would open up 2452 01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:00,480 Speaker 1: his hip a lot and it would cause the ball 2453 02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,280 Speaker 1: to you know, kind of go all over the place 2454 02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:05,920 Speaker 1: and it took off velocity a lot in the same 2455 02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,200 Speaker 1: way that say a shortstopper or a second base would 2456 02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:11,040 Speaker 1: open up there to try and turn two. He has 2457 02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:15,480 Speaker 1: almost completely rid himself of that, and that's a great 2458 02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,040 Speaker 1: job by Brian Dable because he really hammered on him 2459 02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:20,440 Speaker 1: with that, and so he has made strides and had 2460 02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,480 Speaker 1: had the thirst to get better. Now it's just a 2461 02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,480 Speaker 1: matter of if that continues along once they bring some 2462 02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,640 Speaker 1: talent around him. All right, defensive mvpiece, Steve and I 2463 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I want to get your take because there are a 2464 02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of different ideas coming in on Twitter. And yeah, 2465 02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:35,560 Speaker 1: what'd you too say? Well, you wanted to school first? 2466 02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah I want to already said it, but yeah, I 2467 02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,040 Speaker 1: said it was Jerry Hughes. He led the team in sacks, 2468 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:43,080 Speaker 1: led the teams and it led the team in tackles 2469 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:46,160 Speaker 1: for losses, quarterback hits and for me, the defense in 2470 02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:47,960 Speaker 1: the N there's number two defense in the league and 2471 02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,160 Speaker 1: then and the league is about getting after the quarterback 2472 02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:53,480 Speaker 1: and getting turnovers. And I think Jerry did a better 2473 02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,680 Speaker 1: job than that of anybody. I said Jordan Poyer, and 2474 02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe for two straight years he's been at 2475 02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:00,440 Speaker 1: least among the best defensive players. They have a lot 2476 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,240 Speaker 1: of big plays this year, you know, came up with 2477 02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 1: a couple of interceptions, and I just I like the 2478 02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 1: way he plays. I think he's an important, almost an 2479 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:10,400 Speaker 1: indispensable part of that defense. I don't disagree. And his 2480 02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:12,920 Speaker 1: final four games of the season were awesome. I mean 2481 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,760 Speaker 1: he really stepped to finished with the flurry. Yeah, he 2482 02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,840 Speaker 1: sure did. But I agree with Steve here because Jerry 2483 02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,840 Speaker 1: hughes to me the way and this is all based 2484 02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:25,120 Speaker 1: on the film work that I do, because he was 2485 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,440 Speaker 1: the highest graded player of any Bills player this year 2486 02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,200 Speaker 1: for me, And you know, last year, even when he 2487 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't have a great statistical season, he was still up 2488 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,440 Speaker 1: there because of how he impacts the game. And he 2489 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to get in the backfield to impact the game. 2490 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's taking on double teams, he's taking on 2491 02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,880 Speaker 1: a blocker and a chip almost every single snap, and 2492 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,680 Speaker 1: for him to still be able to get back there 2493 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and to work in unison with Kyle Williams on stunts 2494 02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:49,880 Speaker 1: and twists to get into the backfield. And then when 2495 02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:54,160 Speaker 1: you have Hughes actually just ripping right by blockers to 2496 02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,920 Speaker 1: get to the backfield and even hurrying a throw, let 2497 02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,040 Speaker 1: alone bringing him down for a sack or a force 2498 02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,920 Speaker 1: fumble or something along those lines. Almost well, not almost everything, 2499 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:07,120 Speaker 1: A big, solid number of things that went right for 2500 02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:11,120 Speaker 1: the Bills defensively this year was because of Jerry Hughes 2501 02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:12,800 Speaker 1: and the impact that he had on the game. And 2502 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:16,200 Speaker 1: for me that that is a knockout out of the 2503 02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:20,080 Speaker 1: park defensive MVP of two thousand people calling insane who 2504 02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander Lorenzo was great? He played, he played, He 2505 02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:28,600 Speaker 1: had more. I think Lorenzo had more impact plays percentage 2506 02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,680 Speaker 1: of his snaps than any player on the defense. He 2507 02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't there were games when he didn't play very much 2508 02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:34,880 Speaker 1: defense at all during the course of the year when 2509 02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Milano was healthy and they started to evolve into this 2510 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,800 Speaker 1: younger roster. But then when Milano's injury came and he 2511 02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:42,720 Speaker 1: stepped back in, he continued to make plays in the 2512 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,720 Speaker 1: other team's backfield and get sidelined to sideline intercepting passes, 2513 02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:48,320 Speaker 1: and he helped out in the pass rush in mid 2514 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,120 Speaker 1: season two when they needed to boost there, they put 2515 02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,080 Speaker 1: him inside as a stand up. So he Lorenzo had 2516 02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:57,400 Speaker 1: a really nice year, really good years. Deserves. Yeah, we talked. 2517 02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,880 Speaker 1: We talked about him as well. You're right, yeah, Tredevius. 2518 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he locked down one side for the majority 2519 02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,280 Speaker 1: of the year, and even though he had those two 2520 02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,400 Speaker 1: bad games, I mean, the Jets game was his worst 2521 02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:11,920 Speaker 1: one just because of the time of when the reception 2522 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,560 Speaker 1: happened from Robbie Anderson, and he was down on himself 2523 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,040 Speaker 1: over that. But you look at his season in totality. 2524 02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, man, he was. He was the best graded 2525 02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,880 Speaker 1: player for me for a long time until Jerry he 2526 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: was kind of overtook him in the last four games 2527 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:26,880 Speaker 1: of the season. Offensive Rookie of the Year, Joe, we 2528 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,720 Speaker 1: both went with Josh Allen. You said, it's a logical choice, 2529 02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:31,720 Speaker 1: but do you have somebody else off? Yeah, I'm gonna 2530 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cancel Josh Allen out of the equation because 2531 02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,920 Speaker 1: it has to be Josh Allen. Robert Foster. Okay, he 2532 02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:40,000 Speaker 1: he is the answer. I mean Wyatt Teller struggled, and 2533 02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Robert Foster certainly struggled when he was first with the 2534 02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:45,240 Speaker 1: active roster, But once they shifted him down to the 2535 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:48,640 Speaker 1: practice squad and woke him up, something happened. Because he 2536 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,160 Speaker 1: was winning on his routes. He was paying more attention 2537 02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to the intricacies of his routes. I mean, he's setting 2538 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:58,600 Speaker 1: defenders up. Their defenders are forced to play seven eight 2539 02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 1: yards off of him, and if he shows his long stride, 2540 02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:07,080 Speaker 1: defenders are odds are they're gonna keep going, turn their 2541 02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:09,920 Speaker 1: hips and that's when he sticks his foot in the 2542 02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:12,600 Speaker 1: ground cuts over, which is why. You know, the one 2543 02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,320 Speaker 1: play that they had that was so successful all season 2544 02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,200 Speaker 1: long was the deep over and there were countless times 2545 02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,480 Speaker 1: that Robert Foster was open on that play because he 2546 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,840 Speaker 1: set his man up. And then they even used that 2547 02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,640 Speaker 1: play as a decoy because it was so well scouted 2548 02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:28,800 Speaker 1: by the Dolphins that had opened up Zay Jones for 2549 02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,240 Speaker 1: his touchdown where he was wide open. So these are 2550 02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Foster's effect on the game more than just receptions was great. Now, 2551 02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,600 Speaker 1: my big question on him is what does he do 2552 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,240 Speaker 1: for an encore? Is he still going to have the 2553 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,120 Speaker 1: same motivation after he's had the success once it was 2554 02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,560 Speaker 1: ripped out from Underneathan. That's something we don't know the 2555 02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:47,480 Speaker 1: answer to until they get him get their hands back 2556 02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:49,320 Speaker 1: on him in the spring and summer. Defensive Rookie of 2557 02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:50,840 Speaker 1: the Year, we had a couple of different choices, but 2558 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,800 Speaker 1: let's hear your years first. Well, a couple of guys 2559 02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:56,760 Speaker 1: to choose from. Yeah, I think I think Tremaine is 2560 02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the obvious one just because the stats he puts up. 2561 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,800 Speaker 1: But I think the best rookie this season for the 2562 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,160 Speaker 1: time that he played was Taron Johnson, I really do. 2563 02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:09,600 Speaker 1: And his ability to cover in the short area, quickness 2564 02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:13,680 Speaker 1: guys in the slot, and his tackling ability. I mean, 2565 02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,160 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott just raved about him, and so I think 2566 02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Taron Johnson he kind of sneaks to the side here 2567 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,960 Speaker 1: just because he's been injured and he's been out of 2568 02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,240 Speaker 1: you for the past month or so. But the job 2569 02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:30,040 Speaker 1: that he's done this season, and really after coming in 2570 02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:33,720 Speaker 1: as a competitor for as a fourth round pick with 2571 02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,280 Speaker 1: with Philip Gaines, to try and win the job outright 2572 02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:38,680 Speaker 1: and to do what he did, I mean, he was 2573 02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:40,960 Speaker 1: he was outstanding this year and they definitely have a 2574 02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:44,160 Speaker 1: lot to work with, and you know, tertiary note here, 2575 02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace deserves a lot of credit for what he did, 2576 02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:48,720 Speaker 1: and he might have locked up a starting spot next year. 2577 02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,160 Speaker 1: All right, so finally comeback player of the year. You 2578 02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,920 Speaker 1: can interpret comeback anyway you want, whether it's injury or 2579 02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:57,760 Speaker 1: bad play from a year ago, maybe a couple of mean, 2580 02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about guys who came back second half staff, right. 2581 02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,840 Speaker 1: We had people say Josh Allen because of that come 2582 02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,320 Speaker 1: back from his elbow win jury, and I mentioned I 2583 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:07,880 Speaker 1: think I said Robert Foster was my comeback guy because 2584 02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:11,480 Speaker 1: he was bench cut clurd Waivers practice squad and then 2585 02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,800 Speaker 1: came back as well as he did. So there's a 2586 02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,440 Speaker 1: lot of choices to be had. Yeah. The obvious one though, 2587 02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:20,920 Speaker 1: is Shack Lawson's. I mean, Shack is I don't know 2588 02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,360 Speaker 1: that I could even consider anyone else because this guy 2589 02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,200 Speaker 1: was on the precipice of being a bust and traded. 2590 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,000 Speaker 1: He was written off, he was by this organization. They 2591 02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:33,000 Speaker 1: went and signed Trent Murphy to a pretty substantial contract, 2592 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:38,800 Speaker 1: a judicial judicious contract, i should say, um and Lawson 2593 02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:40,920 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a rotational guy and he even 2594 02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:42,640 Speaker 1: said when I asked him on Monday, you know that 2595 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,240 Speaker 1: woke me up. I mean, I knew I had to 2596 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,440 Speaker 1: put a chip on my shoulder and go and get it. 2597 02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:51,000 Speaker 1: And he did. He improved himself in so many different 2598 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,120 Speaker 1: ways as a pass rusher coming off the left side 2599 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:56,600 Speaker 1: of the line, as as someone who bats down passes 2600 02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:59,200 Speaker 1: if he can't get back there, because that was that 2601 02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:00,880 Speaker 1: was something that kind have happened to him in his 2602 02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:02,800 Speaker 1: first couple of seasons where he would get stood up 2603 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:05,000 Speaker 1: right and then that would be the end of it. 2604 02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,200 Speaker 1: Whereas he was always a good run defender, but since 2605 02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:10,960 Speaker 1: he added the ability to time the pass and bat 2606 02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,400 Speaker 1: it down, that was an asset to the defense. And 2607 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:16,520 Speaker 1: he's just been an all around really good player. And he, 2608 02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:20,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, massively outperformed Trent Murphy, the guy that 2609 02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:22,280 Speaker 1: they signed to place him. Although I do look for 2610 02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy he could be next year's comeback. Clay Sure, 2611 02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I think he's still recovering from the knee surgery. Yet 2612 02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Leshan McCoy probably wants to be the comeback. Yeah it's right, hey, Joe. 2613 02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:32,960 Speaker 1: We did. And this is along the lines of recapping 2614 02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Two days ago, our Twitter poll was this, 2615 02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:39,040 Speaker 1: what was the best moment of the twenty eighteen Bill season? 2616 02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,560 Speaker 1: To get your take on this, we offered folks some 2617 02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:44,560 Speaker 1: choices in a Twitter poll. Sixty nine percent more than 2618 02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,680 Speaker 1: two thirds, said it was Kyle William's final game. Thirteen 2619 02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,600 Speaker 1: percent responded and say it was the brawl in the 2620 02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars game, eleven percent say it was halftime of the 2621 02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Patriots game, Thurman's retirement, seven percent of something else in mind. 2622 02:07:57,080 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a best moment of the twenty eighteen 2623 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Bill season? Well, from a memory perspective, the whole Kyle 2624 02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Williams thing was great, But in the scope of football, 2625 02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,440 Speaker 1: this is gonna be out there. But when Josh Allen 2626 02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,840 Speaker 1: got injured, the most memorable moment, because that was his chance, 2627 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:19,240 Speaker 1: without having a serious injury, to take a step back 2628 02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and to view everything and what he was once he 2629 02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,800 Speaker 1: came back from that injury was massively different. You almost, 2630 02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:29,640 Speaker 1: And that was right when they brought on Derek Anderson 2631 02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Mett Barkley, and the whole scope of things changed so 2632 02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:34,680 Speaker 1: much so that they resigned both of those guys to 2633 02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:38,480 Speaker 1: continue to foster and cultivate his development. So I'm going 2634 02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,920 Speaker 1: with that as the most memorable moment because I remember 2635 02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:43,920 Speaker 1: just sitting there going, oh, what do they do now? 2636 02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Anderson has a start next week, and 2637 02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,720 Speaker 1: they were horrid, horrid on offense the next three weeks, 2638 02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,960 Speaker 1: but once he got back, it was night and day. 2639 02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:55,680 Speaker 1: So to me, that one really sticks in my mind 2640 02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,280 Speaker 1: as kind of a turning point for this Bill's offense. 2641 02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Even though it was delayed, they got to see growth 2642 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,880 Speaker 1: from Josh Ellen, from him being able to step on 2643 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the sidelines for it. But it's gonna be really interesting 2644 02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:07,920 Speaker 1: to see because I agree with you. I thought, wow, 2645 02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:09,840 Speaker 1: they took care of it as soon as they saw it. 2646 02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Whether Josh had a big voice in it, and I 2647 02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:15,640 Speaker 1: suspect he had at least a voice Brian Dable, Cullye, 2648 02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Certainly, when they got that quarterback room together 2649 02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:20,880 Speaker 1: and Josh started to take and he took those leaps 2650 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:24,640 Speaker 1: and bounds, somebody in that room, either Sean McDermot or 2651 02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Brian Dable had to say, Wow, this is really perfect 2652 02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:31,760 Speaker 1: for he's really acclimated this get these guys tied up, 2653 02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,040 Speaker 1: and they did so. In the future, if Josh does 2654 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:37,000 Speaker 1: continue this arc of improvement and keeps going till he 2655 02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:41,320 Speaker 1: becomes this top two or three quarterback, elite quarterback. This 2656 02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,800 Speaker 1: may be the moment when they made an early decision 2657 02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:45,840 Speaker 1: to get that quarterback room just the way they wanted it, 2658 02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:47,400 Speaker 1: to set him off on the right trajectory, and there 2659 02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,520 Speaker 1: was if it works out, man, it was smart to 2660 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:53,680 Speaker 1: get it done. It's hard to find players, especially that position, 2661 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,720 Speaker 1: who are both selfless and invested in the growth of 2662 02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 1: a young player, because most guys are going to sit 2663 02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:03,960 Speaker 1: there and go, what about me, Where's where's my chance coming? 2664 02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:06,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's probably a reason why a j. 2665 02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,480 Speaker 1: McCarron got dealt when he was because I think he 2666 02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:11,480 Speaker 1: was not invested in Josh Allen's development. He thought he 2667 02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:14,800 Speaker 1: had games to play. And you know, they probably could 2668 02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:16,200 Speaker 1: have kept him what have you. They would have been 2669 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,720 Speaker 1: in a better situation once Josh Allen went down with 2670 02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:20,720 Speaker 1: an injury what have you. But it worked out well 2671 02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,400 Speaker 1: for them because Derek Anderson is a de facto quarterback coach. 2672 02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're looking on Sundays and Josh Allen's 2673 02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,000 Speaker 1: going to the side, look at the tablet. The guy 2674 02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 1: who's right next to him, Derek Anderson, every time. And 2675 02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:34,040 Speaker 1: who's next to him, Matt Barkley every time. And so 2676 02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:37,360 Speaker 1: those two guys, even though I mean Barkley more so 2677 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:39,560 Speaker 1: than Anderson because at this point in Anderson's career he 2678 02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:43,080 Speaker 1: knows what he is, but Barkley is still could say, 2679 02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,920 Speaker 1: all right, I played really well against the Jets, maybe 2680 02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:47,960 Speaker 1: I could start somewhere. No, he doesn't want to do that. 2681 02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:51,440 Speaker 1: He's he's invested in Josh Allen's growth. He's he's proved, 2682 02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:53,200 Speaker 1: he's ready, he can be ready, and he's a guy 2683 02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:54,880 Speaker 1: you have a lot of confidence in going forward if 2684 02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:58,840 Speaker 1: he if he does play, But to have him, you're right, 2685 02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:01,360 Speaker 1: to have these guys be invested in what this team 2686 02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:03,640 Speaker 1: is becoming is a huge step, and I think the 2687 02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Bills are right to get it set up like they have. Yeah, 2688 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,440 Speaker 1: for sure, they have Barkley for the next two and 2689 02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Anderson the next one and see if Anderson wants to 2690 02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,360 Speaker 1: do it again year after that. Joe, we got less 2691 02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:14,880 Speaker 1: than a minute, but just your thoughts on the news 2692 02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:19,360 Speaker 1: on the coaches, Crossman, Robiski, Cassio, all of them cut loose. 2693 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,480 Speaker 1: What do you think the only minor surprise I had 2694 02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:24,600 Speaker 1: was Jancstio just because his relationship with Sean McDermott goes 2695 02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,560 Speaker 1: runs back a lot of years. But that's just part 2696 02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:30,440 Speaker 1: of the game, right, I mean, if there's not production there, 2697 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,240 Speaker 1: then you have to move on. And you know, the 2698 02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Danny Crossman move was a long time coming. Sean McDermott 2699 02:11:36,160 --> 02:11:38,520 Speaker 1: is not critical of anything in press conferences, but he 2700 02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:41,920 Speaker 1: was very critical of special teams all year without question 2701 02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and there and for good reason. I mean, on Football 2702 02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Outsiders dot Com on their special teams DVOA ranking dead 2703 02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,920 Speaker 1: last thirty second out of thirty two, their bottom twelve 2704 02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,120 Speaker 1: and each of the five major special teams units. And 2705 02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:57,960 Speaker 1: that's something. And you know a lot of this has 2706 02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:00,320 Speaker 1: to do with the new special teams rules. But Rosman 2707 02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:03,080 Speaker 1: never acclimated himself. They gave him players to try and 2708 02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:06,000 Speaker 1: do it. They tried different combinations of players, nothing took. 2709 02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:08,280 Speaker 1: So they're going with new direction there. And so I 2710 02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:12,480 Speaker 1: was not surprised at all when when Danny Crossman was like, hey, Joe, 2711 02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:14,400 Speaker 1: thanks for this, Thank you, of course, I've seeing you. 2712 02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:18,520 Speaker 1: Thanks yeah, job sat you from season thanks seven, joining 2713 02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,520 Speaker 1: us in studio, Steve and I coming back One Bill's 2714 02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio Joe 2715 02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,560 Speaker 1: watch down on this Friday afternoon. I'm off on Monday. 2716 02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown will be in working with Steve. You got 2717 02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:40,320 Speaker 1: a weekend, you got a weekend off we go. You 2718 02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,520 Speaker 1: got a weekend of four wild card playoff game? Which 2719 02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,440 Speaker 1: you the four are you most looking forward to? Seas? 2720 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Probably the early one on Saturday, the Indianapolis of Houston game. 2721 02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I want to see the it's a division arrival. I've 2722 02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,640 Speaker 1: covered both those teams and UM and I'm looking forward 2723 02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,920 Speaker 1: to seeing Frank Reich and the and the Colts get 2724 02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:58,160 Speaker 1: after it. So we'll see. I'm looking forward to the 2725 02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Chargers Ravens the other AFC game, just because i like 2726 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers a lot and I'm intrigued by what the 2727 02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:05,920 Speaker 1: Ravens have done. That's the one o'clock game on Sunday. 2728 02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:07,720 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, It's gonna be fun to watch all 2729 02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:10,080 Speaker 1: those games. I'm gonna Yeah, I can't wait. The AFC 2730 02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:12,240 Speaker 1: games I think are more interesting to me than the NFC, 2731 02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,600 Speaker 1: and not just because we're in that conference. I think 2732 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,360 Speaker 1: those teams are interesting. I agree. I have a great 2733 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,520 Speaker 1: weekend too. You got a three day weekend coming up. Yeah, awesome, awesome, 2734 02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,640 Speaker 1: I'll see you on Tuesday. Yeah all right. Thanks for 2735 02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:25,720 Speaker 1: our production assistants, George Blast, Jeff Colton, Thomas honold Or, 2736 02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Turrito, Kevin Card, James robol Our producer 2737 02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Jay Harris. Hey, thanks for the folks at Rachel's Mediterranean 2738 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Mediterranean Grilled Joe Corey and his crew. They brought over lunch. 2739 02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:38,200 Speaker 1: It was great. Rachel's with five locations in Buffalo. We 2740 02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:40,720 Speaker 1: will see you, Steve, will see you Monday. One Bill's 2741 02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This 2742 02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:45,120 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio