WEBVTT - DOJ vs Deep State - July 9th, Hour 3 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.680 Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:08.479 Welcome back to our three of The Sean Hannity Show 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.639 on Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean, who has the 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.080 day off. I'll be back tomorrow. By the way, we 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.400 invite you to join us. Then you can follow me 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:22.600 on x formerly Twitter at Greg Jarrett. That's Greg, by 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.120 the way, with two g's at the end of Greg, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.800 two rs and two t's. Also, you can follow my 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.559 columns on my website, Thegreg Jarrett dot Com. I have 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.280 a new column out. It's also on Foxnews dot Com 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:42.839 entitled new CIA report finally reveals the secret plot to 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.160 take down President Trump. And I invite you to read 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:52.560 that particular column today propitious only because perhaps we learned 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.440 yesterday that the Department of Justice and the FBI have 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:01.880 launched a criminal investigation into John an And former CIA director, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:10.080 and James Comey, former and disgraced FBI director. And you know, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.480 we've talked about it over the last couple of hours, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.160 but we want to turn our attention to something else 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.000 that's been going on. You may have noticed that there 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:25.520 was a hearing today on Capitol Hill the Oversight Committee 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:32.039 looking into the mental decline of Joe Biden during his 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:37.240 four years in the White House before he was ever elected. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:43.200 Back in twenty twenty, I warned that cognitively Joe Biden 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.680 was incompetent. It was obvious to anybody paying attention, whether 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.040 it was senility or dementia or something else, he was 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.600 not right in the head, to put it plainly, And 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.640 yet with his you know, hiding in the basement strategy 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.960 during the pandemic, Americans really didn't see what the rest 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.680 of us had witnessed. And he was elected, and almost 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.519 from the outset it was readily apparent that things were 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:18.480 growing worse month by month, year after year, till finally 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:26.559 at the June debate just before the election, an utter meltdown. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.600 Very little of what Joe Biden said made sense, prompting 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.120 Trump at one point to say, I don't even know 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.400 what he said at the end of that answer, I 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.080 don't even think he understands. It was truly embarrassing, And 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.920 the more that clip is played, the more mortifying I 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.720 think it is for most Americans to look back and say, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.760 wait a minute, this guy was sitting in the Oval 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:58.520 Office making decisions for the fate of our nation. And 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.440 I think we all know what was going on going on. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:05.080 He was president in name only. His inner circle was 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:10.680 making crucial decisions for the nation. And one of the 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:16.119 things that they were deciding was executive orders that were 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.320 being issued under his name but not his signature, as 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:26.360 well as pardons and commutations. An autopen was being used. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.520 And understand that an autopen has been used by a 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:36.520 vast number of American presidents for decades. It is perfectly 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:44.080 legal provided I emphasize that word, there is knowledge and 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:50.080 consent by the president. Well, what happens if you have 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:56.559 a president who is so cognitively disabled he's not capable 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:03.880 of consent, or, in the alternative, if people around him 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:10.000 don't believe that he is cognitively aware, that they don't 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:15.480 bother to seek consent, and so on their own they 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.880 make the decision to use the autopen. And understand, under 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.200 the law, just as it is with Wills and Estates, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:33.080 you cannot delegate as president the authorization to use the autopen. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:39.520 You can't say I hereby give John Smith a complete 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.400 decision making an authorization when and where and how to 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.680 use the autopen. Can't do that. Only the president can 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:53.800 provide consent and provided he's capable of it and has 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.800 knowledge of the documents that are being signed under his name. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:05.200 And recently, during another hearing near A Tandon, who was 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:11.960 a White House Chief secretary and operated the autopen, said well, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:19.360 I don't actually know who authorized me to use the autopen. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.919 I'd put in a request and somebody in his inner 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.080 circle would grant approval, and then I would use the 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.559 autopen to sign all of these documents. Now, if that's 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.760 the case, those documents are null and void because only 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:44.400 the president can direct with consent, the use of the autopen. Well, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.520 there was another hearing today on Capitol Hill before the 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:54.680 Oversight Committee, and the White House physician Kevin O'Connor was 0:05:54.800 --> 0:06:00.920 called to testify. And what happened He played the fifth. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.760 James Comer's first question was, were you ever told to 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:13.240 lie about the president's health? O'Connor pleaded the fifth. He 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.400 wouldn't answer that question. Then there was another question, did 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.080 you ever believe President Biden was unfit to execute his duty? 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:28.160 Same result, and his attorney then explained, and you know, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.880 try to understand this, because I can't understand it. He said, 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:38.520 we're invoking the fifth because of the doctor patient privilege, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.600 and the privilege means we don't have to answer your questions, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.960 so we're invoking the Fifth all right. The privilege has 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:54.520 nothing to do doctor patient with the Fifth Amendment privilege, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.040 So they conflated the two. Now, what do I think 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.400 was going on? I think the answer to the question, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.960 were we ever told a lie about the president's health 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.200 would have been yes. But that would implicate the good 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:13.640 doctor in a conspiracy that could result in criminal charges. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.720 And to avoid those criminal charges, he's invoking his Fifth 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:24.680 Amendment right against self incrimination. Joining me now to talk 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.840 about it is Mike Howell, who is the president of 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.320 the Oversight Project and he's really been a leading figure 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.400 and uncovering the auto pin scandal. Mike, thanks for being 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.040 with us. So what do you think about what happened 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.360 today with doctor O'Connor. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.120 Well, I think your breakdown was terrific. I'll add a 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.840 couple more thoughts to it here. First, you're absolutely right. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.440 The Fifth is what you claim if you have an 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:54.080 articuaal fear of actually being prosecuted for criminal activity, and 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.280 so that should raise a lot of red flags. You 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:02.480 have doctor quaiming the Fifth in a congressional testimony when 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.400 he's being deposed under subpoena. In an interview, he tried 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.760 dodging at the last minute what was going on in 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.000 the doctor's office at the White House where the criminal 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.120 activity that he's afraid to testify about, and his assertion 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.280 of the doctor patient confidentiality is more of a comsplay. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.040 He wants to publicly argue that he's falling back on 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.880 that long held privilege which doesn't apply here, because it 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.240 sounds better than saying I'm afraid of being prosecuted because 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.599 something may have happened that is prosecutable. And had he 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.360 just claimed the patient doctor privilege, what would have happened 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.400 is Chairman Komer would have over ruled that privilege and 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.640 if he didn't answer the question, held him in contempt. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.640 So what happens next with the fifth is the House 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.439 has a big decision to make. They can immunize the doctor, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.480 offer him immunity to get around his fifth Amendment because 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.600 you can't be prosecuted if you're granted immunity by the House, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.640 and then he's forced to answer. And so that's the 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.559 next dep we would like to see the House take. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.559 You know, So I was going through in my head, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:10.280 my legal head as a lawyer Ford forty five years now, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:15.359 I hate to admit that what would be the criminal 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.520 culpability and the only thing I can think of relative 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:28.600 to the doctor is conspiracy that involves fraud and forgery, 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:34.559 because signing a pen without authorization, an autopen without authorization 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.400 is forgery, which is a crime. And if others were involved, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.000 you know, they would be arguably co conspirators. Now, with 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.040 respect to the doctor, I don't think he knew that 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.280 anybody was using an autopen. He was simply, you know, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:57.720 there to provide medical treatment. But you know, I just 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.240 don't think he wanted to go down that rabbit hole. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:07.000 And his lawyer may envision potential conspiracy crimes beyond what 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.439 I've just identified. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.360 What do you think, Yes, there certainly are crimes beyond 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.719 just the individual that was using the autopend and you 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.960 nailed the one we've been talking about, which is forgery. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.559 There's also an impersonation of a federal official fraud in 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.920 those types of crimes. But when you get out to 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.080 the next layer you get the conspiracy charges. Another one 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.560 that we've flagged as misprisonment of a felony basically, when 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.440 you know a felony is happening and you don't report 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.079 it and you violate basically your duty reports, there could 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.720 be some criminal culpability there. But this wasn't just a doctor. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.320 He was beyond that. He was a close family contact, 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.160 and he clearly issued a lot of public statements that 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.800 were contrary to the truth. And so I think his 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.400 relationships with the Biden and therefore kind of his knowledge 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.840 about the president's decline and how that was handled politically 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.719 them way beyond just the usual patient doctor relationship of 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.280 what happened in the physician's room. He was more part 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.480 of the inner circle than he was squarely just a 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:07.520 medical professional. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.600 You know, this strikes me as similar to Woodrow Wilson, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.319 the president who suffered a terrible, debilitating stroke and was 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.880 completely and utterly incapacitated in his wife, I think it 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.440 was his second wife was the de facto president along 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.240 with Wilson's inner circle. And of course there were no 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.360 television cameras back in the days, you know, no social media, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.760 no twenty four hour news network, and so it was 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.920 and there was a very complicit media back then, which 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:52.000 was particularly limited in stroke in scope by technology and 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.800 so you know, that was all hidden from the American 0:11:54.840 --> 0:12:01.400 public back then. But I must say that it seems 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:08.800 that Biden's inner circle was quite adept and scrupulous at 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.040 trying to hide you know, Joe Biden. They tried him 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.240 out occasionally to read a teleprompter, but he'd wonder all 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.040 over the stage, and he was lost, and he struggled 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:24.240 even to read a teleprompter. You know, as I look 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.079 back on it, and even though I wrote call Him 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.840 after call Him and post podcast after podcasts describing his 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.920 sinility in his dimension, warning about it even before he 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.880 was elected, and more so after he was elected, the 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:44.840 media were winning accessories to the cover up, weren't they. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.920 Oh? Oh, they absolutely were. And that's why what Jake 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.720 Capper and Alex Thompson did with their book Original Sin, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.000 where they essentially monetized their own cover up, is one 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.960 of the worst things I've ever seen in the media space. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.880 But you laid it out with the Wilson example. You know, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.480 after JFK was assassinated, we had four presidents assassinated about 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.319 one hundred years and two presidents that were incapacitated, including Wilson. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.520 So what the country did is recognize we need a 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.080 clear playbook for how to deal with these types of issues, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.040 and that is the twenty fifth Amendment. And the fourth 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.520 section of the twenty fifth Amendment contemplated the exact situation 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 we were in during the Biden years, where the people 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.440 closest to the president, the vice president, in the cabinet, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.160 could by a vote transmit to Congress their recognition that 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.680 the president was incapacitated. But the story of the Biden 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:39.000 administration is the willful failure to invoke that specific provision 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.880 to deal with this specific situation for whatever political reason. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.880 And we can, you know, venture a guest, that's what 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.920 it is. But ultimately it is that they preferred an 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.920 incapacitated president, and the media preferred that outcome too, because 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.560 the counter to that would have been a massive scandal 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.719 and you know, the ruining of his presidential campaign and 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.280 gets who that would have helped. The truth would have 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.880 helped President Trump, who won anyways, And so that is 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.240 a massive constitutional abuse. The Constitution depends on you know, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.360 men and women of a character actually adhering to the 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.800 text of our core documents, and instead we had a 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.120 failure to do that, and also a failure to abide 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.360 by the most basic constitutional rules that we have, which 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.280 are there as one person who is president, who we 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.920 as the sovereign citizens, vest with special super and awesome 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.480 powers and authority. They did not do that. We were 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.680 out of the constitutional order big time for four years. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:37.120 You know. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.800 The flaw with the twenty fifth Amendment, and I've always 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:47.360 believed this is that it demands honesty and integrity in 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:54.680 elected or public officials, most of them appointed, that they 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.440 just don't have. And to expect them to turn on 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.120 the president, cabinet officials who were appointed by the president, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:08.040 the vice president who was selected by the president, is 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:14.080 expecting too much from what I know of politicians. Mike, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.600 thanks very much for being with us. Really appreciate it. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.120 We're gonna pause, take a quick break. We'll be right 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.560 back with more of the Sean Hennity Show. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.480 Tallig Baldwin's favorite radio talk show host is on the 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:38.360 air right now, right mister Baldwin, Sean Hennity. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.920 Makes me laugh every time. I'm Greg Jared filling in 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.240 for Shawn last half hour. A lot of your phone 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.880 calls coming up. We've been talking a great deal about 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.440 the news that the DOJ and FBI have launched a 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:55.040 criminal investigation into the nefarious James Comy and John Brennan 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:03.240 arising out of the Trump Russia collusion narrative, which, when 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.600 you think about it, was a conspiracy in and of itself. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.360 It was fabricated by Hillary Clinton, funded by her campaign, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:17.120 weaponized by Callmi, Brennan, the whole gang to frame Trump 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.120 for something he didn't do. They knew from the beginning 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.360 that the dossier was garbage. The FBI debunked it at 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:30.359 the outset. They secretly fired Christopher Steele, who wrote the dossier. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.200 They fired him for lying, but they kept all of 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:39.920 that hidden. They peddled the fairy tale. Brennan even accused 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.600 Trump of treason. And then remember the day the Special 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:50.840 Council Report came out and found no evidence of collusion, conspiracy. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:55.560 It was all a hoax, which was the title of 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.400 my book that came out before the Special Council Report, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:05.120 the Russia Hoax, and the sequel book, witch Hunt. There's 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.080 almost nothing in this new CI report incriminating Brennan and 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.919 Comy that wasn't already in chapters two and four of 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.360 witch Hunt, which I invite you to read or reread, 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.080 and on television the day of the Mulla report. Brennan 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.400 sheepishly conceded, and I'm quoting here, I must have received 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:33.560 bad information. No, John, you helped invent the bad information 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:40.040 along with Hillary Clinton and Christopher Steele and Komy and Clapper. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.399 So one of the worst cases of corruption ever and 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.359 the dirtiest trick in political history in my judgment, and 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:54.720 the media they were witting accessories. They bear equal blame because, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.719 driven by their hatred of Trump, they were complicit. They 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.840 can victed him in the court of public opinion with 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:08.439 no real credible evidence. So let's go to our phone lines. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.160 Joining us now from North Carolina is John. Hi, John, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.600 how are you doing fine? 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.600 Greg? Thanks for being on. Hey, that was a great 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.360 first hour opening you did. It was very nice. Thank you, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.080 thank you, And that prompted me to give you a 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.320 call because I called you when you were feeling I 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.720 believe you were feeling in for Sean back in Trump's 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:40.080 first period back and it must have been eighteen nineteen 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.000 something like that. Yeah, and Bill Barr had just been 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:50.840 appointed Department of Justice head by Trump. And the question 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.359 that I posted to you back then was do you 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.720 think Bill Barr is going to do anything about this 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.320 and you're your answer was, yeah, I think he's a 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:03.200 stand up guy. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:04.639 Yeah. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.800 Now, I'm not trying to blame you or fault you 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:13.240 for it, except except now what we're into, how many 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:18.800 years later and much more exposure to what's going on 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.680 if you kind of follow the footprints, so to speak. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.400 Yeah, And I. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.840 Don't think anything's gonna come This is kind of from 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.080 your first hour question. I don't think anything's going to 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.760 come out of this, even with you got your cash, Pateel, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:42.240 you got Dan Bongino, you got Pam BONDI. I it 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.080 would be nice, but I just because of what's been 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.320 going on and my question to you on Bill Barr 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:54.080 back then, at the end of the day, I think 0:19:54.760 --> 0:20:00.199 what's going on in the country is so deep and 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.639 the forces at play here are so powerful many we 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:09.880 probably have never even heard of that they are subverting 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:14.200 the United States of America. They are going to they 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.760 are going to control her and do whatever. And when 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:25.720 people like I'll use an example recently with Dan Bongino, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.040 who I followed and liked and I trust the guy. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:38.280 I think he's very honest. But Bongino made no qualms 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:43.239 about how important truth was, and you know, he was 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:49.119 probably one of the most strongest personalities pushing investigation on 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:53.480 all this stuff. And then from his surprise and mine 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.400 and my delight, he got picked up by the FBI 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.640 and as soon as he got in there. And I'm 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.960 not blaming him either, I'm not saying he's a fault. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.760 I think he realized and I think Bill, actually Bill 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.679 O'Reilly brought this up a couple of days ago. Bongino 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.440 got in there and realized I had no idea what 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.280 was at play. And now he's been I think he's 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:22.280 been told. I think Patel, it's like they've either been 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.639 told directly or indirectly on the side, or they figured 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:32.000 it out that this is bigger than you ever ever thought. 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:36.200 Yeah, I don't know. You know, John, obviously my crystal 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.360 ball fell to the ground and shattered on Bill Barr. 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:41.840 Oops. 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:46.320 But look, you know he was and is a stand 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:51.600 up guy. He's a fine, fine lawyer. But I think 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.840 he was undermined by the deep state, which to this 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:59.120 day is live and well. And you know, it's very 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:08.280 hard to overcome and sort of discover the truth behind 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.240 all of the lies and the cover up that has 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:16.119 been going on for years in years now. You know, 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:22.560 obviously I've known Dan Bongino for years, cash matel, I've 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.919 known for years. And whether or not they can overcome 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:32.160 the obstruction that is endemic in the deep state, which 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.440 still operates, I don't know. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:36.480 Now. 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.960 Obviously, it's going to take a grand jury to issue 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:45.080 an indictment, whether it be Brennan or Komi or somebody 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:51.080 else relative to the Russia hoax. But I do think laws, 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.440 you know, we're violated, as I mentioned in the first hour, 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.719 if it's not as something as simple as false statements 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.679 eighteen USC. One thousand and one, or perjury or deprivation 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.320 of rights under color of law and a conspiracy associated 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.919 with that, and I think those things are all on 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:15.760 the table. But it would take a US attorney in Washington, 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:23.560 d C. Currently Jeanine Piro, to present compelling evidence based 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.520 on probable cause to a grand jury and to issue 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.160 an indictment. But from there, think of the uphill battle. 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.320 I mean, this is Washington, d C. John Durham, the 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:38.719 Special Council had the goods on Denchenko, who was the 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.439 main source for Christopher Steele in where did den Chenko 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:47.040 get his information from a Hillary Clinton crony and it 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.760 was all a lie, a collection of lies. And yet 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:56.439 Denchenko walked, Why because it's Washington, d C. Where you know, 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:01.200 Donald Trump gets like five percent of the vote, and 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:06.160 so there's a built in bias there that favors any 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:13.520 defendant that arises out of the Russia hoax. So you know, 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.720 I always try to be an optimist, but Washington DC 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.960 has turned me into a pessimist. So we'll wait and see. 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.280 Let's go to our next caller. Thank you, John for 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.199 your called. David joins us from Colorado. 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:32.720 Hi David, Hi, Greg, David in Colorado. You know, first 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.000 time caller ever to a radio talk show, but a 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:41.040 long time listener. And you know, I'm listening and I 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.760 appreciate what you said in the first hour, if you will, 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.440 and talking about the hoax and all that good stuff. 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.399 But what I'm seeing over the past till thirty years 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:56.359 that I'm just what you were just saying, We're not 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.720 going to win in the deep state and our judiciary subverted. 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.560 And do you really believe that anyone's ever gonna get 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.960 prosecuted even though they have the goods on them. 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:16.680 You know, I would want to see the evidence before 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:22.240 I could ever weigh in on you know, the merits 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:30.600 of a prosecution. You know, remember, probable cause gets you 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.720 to a prosecution, but beyond a reasonable doubt is the 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.680 very high threshold for a conviction. And as I say 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.520 in Washington, d C. I mean, you know, it strikes 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.919 me as an impossibility, right, given the political nature, the 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:50.359 makeup of the jury, there there is a built in 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.760 bias that comes comes to play. I'll give you an 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.880 example in New York where you know, Donald Trump was 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:08.840 prosecuted criminally on the most absurd legal case, allegations based 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.320 on laws that don't even apply, and yet he was convicted. 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:19.919 I mean, so I'm not saying that the criminal justice 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:24.679 system is corrupt. What you know, what I am saying 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.960 is that it is dependent upon people because people serve 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:33.879 as jurors and grandeurs, and you know, they bring with 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:39.760 them all of their own personal prejudices and political biases, 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.439 you know, warts and all. And it does have a 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.119 tendency to infect the system. And you know, it's not 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.560 a perfect system because you know, democracy and a constitutional 0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:58.720 republic is not perfect either. You know, it's it's like 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:03.440 Winston Churchill who said, you know, democracy is the worst 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.760 form of government in the world except for all the others. Yeah, 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.359 he's sort of right about that. David, Thanks very much. 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.320 Let's go to Wayne of Pennsylvania. Hi, Wayne, how are you? 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:15.760 Do you have a question or a comment? 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.280 Yes, Greg, Hey, thanks for my call. You were just 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:25.040 talking about Biden the past several years. I'd like to 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:31.240 talk about Biden the past several months. Pepper comes out 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.200 with a book, Tell All the Story about Biden, and 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.000 then we get an announcement Biden has stage four cancer. 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:46.960 Now a week or two after that announcement, Biden is 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.479 speaking to two women and he's like right in their face, 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:55.439 speaking to these two women. And then we see him 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.040 recently on the beach, and then there's a buzz about 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.280 maybe running nick for president. Now, if someone is going 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:08.560 through chemotherapy, can you tell me is the doctor that 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.720 made this announcement or whoever made the announcement that he 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.720 had stage four cancer? Can we believe that? No? 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.680 I mean, I don't believe it. That's just my own 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.320 personal opinion. I think it was known for a long 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:27.439 time and it was concealed and covered up. And you know, 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.399 in terms of Joe Biden thinking he can run for 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.600 president again, and he's you know. I mean he's in 0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:39.040 Lalla Land and you know, his family to me, is 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:47.040 guilty of elder abuse, you know, to trot him out 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.040 the way they do. You know, Jill brought him out 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:54.480 on the View. What was that about five or six 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.120 weeks ago? And the guy was comatose and he was 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.240 struggling to put a subject with a predicate and answer 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.400 questions in a coherent way, and Jill had to jump 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:10.840