WEBVTT - Right on the Marks with RHOSLC Meredith Marks

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison sands Lauren Zema today because we are on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. I'm not in the friendly confines of Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hit the road. I was at an amazing charity event,

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<v Speaker 1>the TGR Foundation. It's Tiger Woods Foundation for all his

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<v Speaker 1>learning centers and his learning labs. Awesome, awesome foundation that

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<v Speaker 1>I love to support. I won't dive into my golfing

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<v Speaker 1>as I know that Lauren Zema is somewhere right now

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<v Speaker 1>dozing off as I start to talk about sports. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also won't talk anything other than about my guest

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<v Speaker 1>today because I am so excited, and maybe the only

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<v Speaker 1>other person that would be more excited than me is

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Zema, who got me into watching the Real Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>of Salt Lake City. When I tell you I've never

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<v Speaker 1>watched an episode of any of these franchises ever, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not exaggerating. Lauren sat me down Meredith Marx, who joins

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<v Speaker 1>me now, and she said, you have to watch Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City. It is the best. I said, great, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all in. I love reality TV. I stopped the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I paused it after the Supertease because I lost my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>This show is so damn good, Meredith, It's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>literally I stopped it after the Super Tees episode one

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, this might be the greatest show I've

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<v Speaker 1>never watched. How is everybody not talking about this? And

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<v Speaker 1>I realize She's like, you're an idiot because everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. We love Lauren, So thank you. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being here enjoining me and talking all things

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake City. But also we'll get into our lives

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of mirror each other. As I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing my research on you, we kind of have very

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<v Speaker 1>similar paths of getting married very young and making a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mistakes. But Salt Lake City, this show captured

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<v Speaker 1>my imagination. You guys are so much better than any

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<v Speaker 1>other housewife show. Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I of course appreciated. What is the magic sauce of

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<v Speaker 2>Salt Lake City? You know, I think it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of chaos. Like we're all wired very very differently. Just

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<v Speaker 2>the way we process information is completely different. With you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the backdrop of Utah, which is obviously magnificently gorgeous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all this, you know, religion comes into play

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Mormon church being there, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like all these very unusual elements I don't think are

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<v Speaker 2>really a part of any other Housewives show.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, there is that side of religion, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's just things that I think we're all curious about

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<v Speaker 1>also getting a glimpse. There's the drama and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, there is a curiosity that we

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<v Speaker 1>all just kind of want to see what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>over there. Yeah, because it is very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Utah is a very I mean, look every state in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, I feel like it's a little bit culturally.

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<v Speaker 1>Different, but I live in Texas. We all have our

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<v Speaker 1>bugaboos exactly exactly, but Utah is a little more different.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys, And by the way, speaking of Utah

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<v Speaker 1>and the backdrop and all that, the fashion is so

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<v Speaker 1>high end, sometimes tragic, like some of the ski outfits

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<v Speaker 1>are a little much. They're a little extra, as the

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<v Speaker 1>kids would say. But it's fun. It's like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's something else you get to talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one thing that all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on this show, really enjoy is fashion. That

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<v Speaker 2>is really probably the only common ground that we all share,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's fun and we can be we all appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>each other's style, and it's different, and so that is

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<v Speaker 2>one great common point for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a very honest question I have for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I obviously you know that I spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time in the reality TV world, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>find interesting are quote unquote villains I mentioned. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>see yourself portrayed as a villain or like when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're out when you hear fans, Is that fair this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some seasons, yes, you know it's it is and

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't you know. It's like the thing is, as

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<v Speaker 2>you well know, reality TV is snippets, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because it's snippets. If everyone saw everything that went on,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be really boring and it would leave nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to the imagination. So because of that, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things that go on that you don't see and

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<v Speaker 2>that may justify certain actions, but you don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>those things happen because.

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<v Speaker 1>I always find and well, y'all, show is very different,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of hit on it right there. Our

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<v Speaker 1>show you have a season, right, you have a ten

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<v Speaker 1>episode arc and you're good, You're bad, and you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not coming back next year, maybe come back at

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<v Speaker 1>Paradise or whatever, but you're still kind of picking up

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<v Speaker 1>that storyline you guys are on for years. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you're right, it does ebb and flow who the

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<v Speaker 1>villain is, then all of a sudden you're not, then

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<v Speaker 1>you are again, so that your show is very different

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Yeah, that's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, and I also think it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, like it's just unfolds and and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>always has to be a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you need one. It's what makes it interesting. No,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean from sports to politics to TV, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to have heroes and then you got to have

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<v Speaker 1>the villains. Like you know, if you don't hate a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't love your team as much. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way that's life.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing too is at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, I know what I've done, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what I haven't done, and so if there's things that

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<v Speaker 2>are left open to the imagination, I know that at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, I'll be vindicated.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'll come to light. Yeah, because right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>storyline right now is about you talking that someone's husband

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<v Speaker 1>might be gay or is gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did not speculate on his sexuality after what

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<v Speaker 2>I went through with my own son.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not something I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I hear these rumors. I didn't even hear rumors

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<v Speaker 2>that he was gay. I just heard rumors that he

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<v Speaker 2>had an affair with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That was all that I had heard up until a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>which you got to watch and see the rest. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get delve too deep into it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, but I you know, to me, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, like that doesn't interest me. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>care if that's not their arrangement and she's upset about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel sorry for her. But above and beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, you know, And if that is their arrangement,

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<v Speaker 2>good for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they're happy. So at least let's tease this

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<v Speaker 1>out so we will watch, we will find out how

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<v Speaker 1>this culminates. Like we're playing this out. Whether you did

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<v Speaker 1>say this, didn't what you said, well, we're gonna hear more.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see, you'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, the rumors I referred to in Palm

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<v Speaker 2>Springs in that moment of anger.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you and Palm Spring Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the restaurant you went, the f off I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I did you know? I'm a very

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<v Speaker 2>calm person the time, exactly. You scared, Like that's when

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<v Speaker 2>people should be scared. It's like, it's not good when

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<v Speaker 2>I lose it, it's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgive me. I forget that. The woman who was your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>who was like in front of you trying to calm

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<v Speaker 1>you down, Lisa, Lisa, bless her heart, by the way

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<v Speaker 1>she stood there. Man, she was on the front lines

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<v Speaker 1>and like anything could have happened at that moment. She

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<v Speaker 1>was standing in front of Mount Vesuvius, And I'm like, girl, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be careful. You don't know what's about

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. But you were. You were great. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a stage four. Just meltdown. I would love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean again, it's like, obviously there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot longer of a dinner than what you saw. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was prodded at for quite a while on a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different subjects, and I had had a very

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<v Speaker 2>emotional day about totally different things that had nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the women. But I was sensitive, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, usually I can deal with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the prodding, but that day I just reached a boiling

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<v Speaker 2>point and I unleashed well.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, the producers are great, and so I watched

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<v Speaker 1>these shows as a fan and then I watched them

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<v Speaker 1>as a producer. So one of the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>did that was kind of funny, and it's not funny

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<v Speaker 1>for you because it was something obviously that was very heartfelt.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something else going on in your life that

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<v Speaker 1>you were very emotional about. Yes, they never obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>probably talked about it, you probably explained it. They have

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<v Speaker 1>it on tape. They never showed that. And so there

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<v Speaker 1>was this this running thing that you were like, there

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<v Speaker 1>was this bizarre thing nobody knew about, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>kept referring to it. So the viewer at home was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know what's in all fairness to the

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<v Speaker 2>other women, they really didn't know because I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>that it was my story to tell. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also was trying to like have this fun girls trip

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't want to bring negativity into it, so I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted everything to stay sort of positive.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, they knew I was upset. They could

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 2>There were points during the day where I was fighting

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<v Speaker 2>off cheers and things like that, but I was really

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just ignore it and let it go. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like when I reached a boiling point

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<v Speaker 2>with everything, I couldn't let it all go. So they

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<v Speaker 2>probably were sitting there thinking the same thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, she's crazy. It's not that I don't love you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do, but maybe my favorite and I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say character, but person on the show. Mary, Please

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<v Speaker 1>tell me she is everything that I hope she is.

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<v Speaker 2>She is one hundred percent exactly like what you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I mean she really is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she just the way she processes information is so different.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero filter, zero f's given. Yeah, I feel like she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing her own show, like y'all are doing your thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the producers like, okay, guys, here's the dinner setup.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's gonna come in, we're gonna talk, we'll do our thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary's yeah, no, I'm gonna sit on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking this poor pa, and I'm gonna make them

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<v Speaker 1>run me through McDonald's. And again, being the producer, my

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<v Speaker 1>guess is they probably tried to get her to dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like no. They're like, okay, well sorry, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna take Mary to McDonald's keep rolling. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like she's doing her own show.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary goes to her own beat. You know, she definitely

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<v Speaker 2>goes to her own beat. I mean, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>just everything with her is just the way she thinks

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<v Speaker 2>is so different and so entertaining, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>And she could get as a producer they like, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know she was on the show then she left

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<v Speaker 1>and then they brought her back and I could see

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<v Speaker 1>as a producer. Sometimes we've done that where like that

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<v Speaker 1>person's a lot of drama and there kind of great content,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're a lot so maybe they're they're too much,

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<v Speaker 1>so we take them off the show and then you're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we really missed that drama, Like they're too good. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mary is that person that's she's too good to leave

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench. You got to bring her on.

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<v Speaker 2>But weirdly, you know what, I don't feel like she

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<v Speaker 2>actually causes that much drama.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she's just this moment. Yes, yes, she's our comedic release. Yes, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the moment that we rewound honestly fifteen times

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<v Speaker 1>at my house with Lauren Zima. Did she pee on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus? I knew that she just throwing up? Or

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<v Speaker 1>did she pee? According to l z and I, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think she peed. I it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it where it was. It wasn't like the I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But it might have been the bag of throat leaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I can't really tell.

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<v Speaker 1>We took we took a survey. I think the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of people felt like she made on the bus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not no matter what it was, it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a great look.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think that was her finest moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she probably is ready to move on from that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the bus driver, this poor woman who is

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<v Speaker 1>like opening the door. She's like sitting there with this

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<v Speaker 1>nice look on her face, and I'm like, she has

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<v Speaker 1>to go in. Someone has to clean up that. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, Oh god, it was a disaster. But this

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<v Speaker 1>would not be a fun job. I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you, would be mad at you for this

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<v Speaker 1>newest addiction in my life of Real housewives. That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the show. You guys are great, you really are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. You'll make it great. It has It's always

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<v Speaker 1>dawn on me how difficult it is when you come

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<v Speaker 1>on any reality show. But when you're doing a show

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<v Speaker 1>that involves your real life, your real family, your son

0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you talked about was involved, obviously your husband. So have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever thought like it's not this is not worth

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore? Like you walk that fine line.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Like I think that all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a love hate relationship. And there are times that

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<v Speaker 2>are like phenomenal and incredible, and then there are times where.

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<v Speaker 1>You're crying, like you're devastated.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I can't believe that people believe this about

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<v Speaker 2>me because I know what my truth is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a love hate thing and that the highs

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<v Speaker 2>are really high and the lows are really low.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, is there the biggest lesson or the biggest takeaway?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if someone was getting into this, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them? Because I think everybody thinks I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on reality TV because people are gonna love me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to I'm going to be the one

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<v Speaker 1>that comes out looking good. I'm going to control my message.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll know what I say, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be the first thing I would say

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<v Speaker 2>you have zero control, and I think that just naturally

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<v Speaker 2>the types of people who are attracted to reality television

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<v Speaker 2>tend to be a little more controlling of their lives

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and that's a really hard thing to let go.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was hard for all the women.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen everyone struggle with that in different ways. And

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<v Speaker 2>you have no control at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and all you can do is speak your truth because

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't, somebody else is going to tell it

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<v Speaker 2>for you and it won't be your truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, And when we talk about real I mean, something

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<v Speaker 1>really huge happened in this franchise, Jen goes to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of the people on the show is literally

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<v Speaker 1>in jail right now. It rocked the show, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also something that rocked all of your lives. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when something that huge happens and it's captured, what

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<v Speaker 1>was what's the emotion? How is you know how closely

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<v Speaker 1>were y'all talking to producers of Hey, like, this woman's

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<v Speaker 1>really going to prison, we need to deal with this it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was probably the hardest thing to navigate, I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody. Okay, maybe it wasn't the hardest thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think dealing with my son was the hardest thing to navigate,

0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.720
<v Speaker 2>but second hardest thing maybe, or it was definitely very

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<v Speaker 2>high out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because like we didn't know what was really happening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we spent all this time following her, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>her story, I'm innocent, and then she switches at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, I've never had a friend go through this,

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<v Speaker 2>And not only am I trying to navigate this for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in my life with somebody, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing it on worldwide television.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to articulate it well.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're people are seeing bits and pieces too, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was that was really really just difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate, and I think very hard on everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you guys, I know you've continued to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about it this season, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a point of consternation on the show because some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has their opinions and how they feel about it

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<v Speaker 1>and feel deceived, and so it's very interesting the layers

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<v Speaker 1>of this. And she's in prison right now. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to talk to her, she reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not broken to her.

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<v Speaker 2>She has not reached out directly, but I did get

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<v Speaker 2>a message from her husband asking me to send her

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<v Speaker 2>a letter, which I did send, and it was returned

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<v Speaker 2>for the wrong envelope and it was returned for the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong paper. So now I'm on round three of rewriting

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<v Speaker 2>the same note because it's seven months.

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<v Speaker 1>A federal penitentiary. So it's like very strict on you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you can't send anything that's cute, basically, like

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be white paper, white wow. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to go redo that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, and this show has obviously been a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of your marriage, and that has been famously

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult. You and I have something very similar in common.

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<v Speaker 1>We both got married very young. You were twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, twenty four when I got married. I was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. When did y'all meet? What hell? Old? Were

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got married at twenty four, maybe twenty five, twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you beat me. I don't like I'm a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have my first until I was like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty, but I got you know, I met my

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<v Speaker 1>then wife when I was eighteen years old. We were

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<v Speaker 1>college sweethearts. Then we got married when we were twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just babies, and you were a baby having babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely, I might have been more mature than than

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<v Speaker 2>I am now.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, really, I think I've regressed. That's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>awesome though. I kind of like that. I like the awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good. But you guys had three kids within

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you just say, four or five years? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>five years married? You have three babies, and that puts

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on a marriage. That's that's unbelievably difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just I think for us it was very

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<v Speaker 2>stressful because, like you said, it's all so quick, and

0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you first get married, like you should

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<v Speaker 2>find your as a couple and are Yeah, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. We just were like, oh, we're having kids, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're working. Oh we're busy with this, We're busy with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically we're busy with everything except we're focusing on

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.159
<v Speaker 2>our relationship, which you know, we you know, had a

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.199
<v Speaker 2>great relationship at that time, much better now, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was a solid, good relationship and we really did love

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<v Speaker 2>each other. But if you're not going to put the

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<v Speaker 2>work in, it's only going to take you so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and what would you say, kind of put it

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<v Speaker 1>drove a wedge between you guys. Is it was it

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<v Speaker 1>your careers and the fact y'all are traveling and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going different directions all the time. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think part of it was just like having kids

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<v Speaker 2>so quickly too, you know, I don't know that they put.

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.920
<v Speaker 1>A wedge, but it just it.

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<v Speaker 2>It made it harder for us to find our footing

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<v Speaker 2>in the relationship first, you know. And and I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that over time, we are so focused on the kids,

0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 2>so focused on careers, so focused on basically everything, accept

0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then and that stuff happens, you know, so easily,

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And when you're listening to this podcast or you just

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you hear stories, you're like, well, why didn't you communicate? Why?

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.439
<v Speaker 1>But it is something that is so common and it

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.679
<v Speaker 1>happens so quickly because you are so knee deep, like

0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:27.919
<v Speaker 1>kids are difficult, they're so tough. Three kids exponentially tough. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're just like, your life is not your

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>own anymore? No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing too, is why that is the communication

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.719
<v Speaker 2>is the whole key to everything. And the problem is

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that once you get into this negative spiral and communication

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 2>it's almost impossible to break it on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. It's something that seems so simple, like

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we just need to talk, we just need to but

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it is. Why is it so difficult to bridge

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that gap and to fix when that that chasm has

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 1>been created? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's just such hostility that vesters and grows

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, and you start reacting to each

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 2>other rather than responding. It just gets like rough and

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>if for us, as soon as we got into like

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:21.439
<v Speaker 2>a good couples therapist and we rewired how we communicated everything, Like,

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's still a lot of work, but it

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>changed very quickly.

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, what how because I know

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys took a break and but you you're back

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 1>together and you're you're doing so much better therapy and

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 1>just having having a professional work with you guys in

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like communication. Yeah, I think our therapist was amazing.

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean for sure, and I we're probably the only

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 2>ones on the planet that can say, you know, real

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:57.399
<v Speaker 2>housewives coupled with the pandemic saved our marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Very odd because it brought you because well, the pandemic

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like made you forced you to be back together.

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 2>The pandemic for ud us to be back together and

0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.879
<v Speaker 2>to kind of reevaluate, especially early on whenever I was

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a little terrified, you know, made you reevaluate what you

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 2>care about, what's important, things like that. That's funny, Yeah,

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And the show, interestingly, because we had already been through

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit of counseling and had been working so

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:28.439
<v Speaker 2>much on our communication. When we were able to watch

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>things back and see the way we behaved, we grew

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 2>from that.

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>When we were in you know, in real time.

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Filming and stuff like that, you're just so much more

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:45.160
<v Speaker 2>hyper aware of the way you say things to somebody, and.

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>You had game film to watch, watching your games breaking

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it down exactly. Most couple do not get that opportunity.

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I was going to ask if

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 1>if the show had made it more difficult, but it

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.199
<v Speaker 1>actually seems to have helped you, guys, because I know

0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>these shows can often be.

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 2>There are definitely moments that are are hard and that

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.120
<v Speaker 2>are you know, not great. But I think that if

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 2>in fact you're meant to be together, you're going to

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 2>use the show as a tool to help you rather

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 2>than hurt you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you guys will kind of get remarried again,

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<v Speaker 1>like renew your vows or do something.

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>So I'm afraid to do that because everyone says it's

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 2>like a curse and they joined up and divorce.

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny I heard that. I never heard.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I never knew about that, but recently someone told me

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 1>about renewing your vals is like bad. I'm like, is

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.479
<v Speaker 1>that a thing? I don't know.

0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what they say, at least they say that on

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 2>like reality to you, Okay, so I don't know if

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that's like just on.

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>TV Orsetta Housewives saying. You know what I think Lauren

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>told me about that that every couple that's renew their

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Housewives has gotten divorced or broken up except for Whitney

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 1>and Justin, so don't do it.

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 2>They're together, Okay, they're together because we saw in the

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>previous there's some trouble and paradise there.

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happens, but you guys, but you

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>guys are much better and your kids are older too,

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>which helps.

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we say we're on our second marriage to

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 2>each other because at the end of the day, it's

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 2>a very different relationship now than we had previously. So

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and our you know, we didn't do another wedding, but

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 2>in our own minds, this is our second marriage.

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Where do you guys spend your time? Are y'all still everywhere?

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're you know, we're in Utah for about

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>four months in the winter. We'll pop back in and

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>out here and there. But you know, I used to

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:53.959
<v Speaker 2>spend the summer there, but now I really have been

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<v Speaker 2>spending the summer in Europe, and then we'll spend the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of our time between New York, LA and Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, but are you more together now than you used

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Because I think from what I understand your jobs, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing all this apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's why this is actually working really well

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<v Speaker 2>for us, is because we are able to be together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason we were apart so much is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one was always traveling and the other wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're both just kind of traveling together and

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<v Speaker 2>doing our best to coordinate as much as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, i'd say we're together like eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the time now, which is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's huge. And it's funny. You mentioned something about the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think when we're all high on the hog

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<v Speaker 1>and you get your money and you're doing your life

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<v Speaker 1>and you're traveling. It's like you feel like not the

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>grass is always greener somewhere else. But you got options, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're just life. Life's going, you're traveling, you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't think about maybe the things that are

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<v Speaker 1>important in life. And you're right. The pandemic just had

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<v Speaker 1>the record scratch moment for all of us where just

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the music stopped and we had to go, wait, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really what's important that in toilet paper. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>those are the two things that are important in this world,

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>toilet paper and your loved ones. I was hoarting gasoline

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<v Speaker 1>that toy that was smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I was worried my family was spread out all over

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<v Speaker 2>the country. I was like, what if there aren't flights,

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>what if there's a gas shortage? So all I cared

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>about was gas to make sure I could get everyone together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how, like like every generation goes through something

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic and crazy that causes them to be crazy about something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'll go to your grandparents' house and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>have something weird and you're like, Grandpa, like, why do

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you have that? In the closet. It's like, well, back

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>in my day, you know, when we have the dust bowl,

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and so our kids, like our grandkids are going to

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>come to our home. They're going to open up and

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they're going to see an entire closet filled with just

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<v Speaker 1>toilet paper. Like Grant like, why is grandpa hoarding toilet paper?

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you don't understand, Like this can go away.

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>There was a time it was the most important commodity,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was more important than gold, silver and bitcoin combined.

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<v Speaker 1>So crazy. But you and Seth your husband y'a, are

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<v Speaker 1>now doing a podcast together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we started a podcast discussing relationships, not necessarily advice,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't feel that I'm befell for giving advice.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I can only talk about my own experiences and you know,

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 2>and ask others about theirs, and you know, hear about it.

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't have to even be a romantic relationship.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>It can be about friendship, you know, parent, child, sibling, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been really fun. Lauren and I do the

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>show together quite often and we dive into these subjects

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>as well. I found it quite cathartic. It is like therapy.

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>We end up talking about a lot of things on

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the show, and then it often spills over into dinner

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>where we will continue to have these conversations. Are you

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>guys kind of finding the same revelation about being together

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and doing this podcast? Yeah? You know, it's actually funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Before before I came in here us on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>with my mother and she was asking me about the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's great, I said, I'm really enjoying it

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.479
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you're chit chatting and you're learning and

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 2>you're exploring, and it's just and it's good for me

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and Seth because you know, it's forcing us to continue

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 2>to talk about our relationship, our issues, concerns, what's going well,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>what's not, you know, and just stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Focused on what we need to be focused on. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll get you on. It's I would love to

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>be on with you too. All right, Well, what's the

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>end of the podcast? Hanging by a Thread with Seth

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and Meredith Marx Hanging by a thread? That's I love that.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.479
<v Speaker 1>It's been really interesting. The whole podcast thing in general

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. Just I find it very cathartic. I love

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>talking to people. I always have, and it allows you,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I think, doing stuff like this especially when we can

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be face to face. It allows you to kind of

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>let down your garden and just have a conversation. Exactly. Well,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why I like it in person as opposed to

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a thirty second SoundBite where you got to like do

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a quick interview and which I did for a million years,

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and you still do, like you know, Bravo runs you

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>through the ringer and you're doing all the press and

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, in ten seconds end up somewhere well out

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of context. Yeah, exactly, because well they want to keep

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we got to keep Meredith in the

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:20.719
<v Speaker 1>villain category. And that's the problem too. If you are

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in long form like we are right now. You're a

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>lovely woman, Thank you. It's like there's no way someone

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>could come away with from this conversation be like, wow, yeah,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>she's a real bitch. Like you know what though, that's interesting. Honestly,

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>there are very.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Few people that I have met in the Bravo world

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>that like are not very nice.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's interesting. I think a lot of its circumstance.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have your moments. Everybody is human.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>We all do, and that's the beauty. I mean, we

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>all we all having Hey, I'm I'm preaching the choir.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely had my moments. But do you guys cross

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>pollinate at all from like show to show other housewives,

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Like do you know, like, are you friends with some reason?

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I am? I am? Are you a fan of any

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of the other shows?

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>So I watched Bits and Pieces mainly to support the

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>women that I like, because I'm not a big TV person.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I never really have been a huge TV person, and

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>so and now it's also you have to remember, like

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I go through this, so sometimes watching one of the

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>other shows is very like triggering for me and not

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 2>that pleasant.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you know what's really happening, you know. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so I watch Bits and Pieces.

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I was on the last season of this past one

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's just not I did watch one episode, Lauren,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe no, I love my Ladies of Salt Lake City.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm loyal. Well they're new, give them a chance,

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I will. They were out in the Hamptons or something,

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, these aren't the fights I'm used to.

0:29:55.680 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>This isn't Palm Springs. Yeah, wow, definitely not normal. That

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was on fire, So I'm speaking of that when you

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>guys shoot the show or y'all months in advance? How

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>far in advance y'all shooting before it hits Bravo?

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, we always always in the winter, so you

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>know it ends up bearing it slightly definitely.

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Going to cut, Like do you see the show? Like

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>how soon do you know what's to come? Like, do

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you have any idea?

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I just I've not seen anything beyond Tuesday's episode, so

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>we usually just see it like a week shortly before,

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>not even less than.

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's got to be kind of anxiety written

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>as well as you you have an idea of what's

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be shown, of what's happened, but you really

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, so you guys are kind of finding out

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>with us.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the thing is, it's like you you

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>have a clue because you know what happened, and you

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>also know what like follows through. You know, in the

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>moment it may or may not you know, be shown,

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>but if it's something that's been carried on through the

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>whole winter, yeah you're going to see it, of course

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>because it's a big part of the story. So you

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of know, but you don't really and even if

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't know which parts you're going to

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 2>see or not see. And that's what makes great television,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>you know. It's not like, you know, there's stuff that

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>goes on and we see all the time down the

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>road there's a flashback and you're like, oh, that's what happened,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, or whatever.

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's good storytelling. They do a great job. Kudos.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who the executive producers are, never met him,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but kudos to the to the executive producers and all

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the producers and the crew of Salt Lake City. I'm

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a fan. It's shot well, it's produced well, edited well.

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>The light I'm cause I dissect these shows to death

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's a great show. It's very well done, and

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you're such a huge integral part of it. Thank you.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>They can never get rid of you. That's the beauty.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>You can say and do what you want because Bravo

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>could never replace you. Oh I'm sure Bravo would be

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>thrilled to hear you say that. I will be with

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>your agent renegotiating your next contract. Meredith Marx, thank you

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so much, thank you, it was so good to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan and I will continue watching well thank

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you so much. It was so fun to be here today.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And we'll get you on our podcast next Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fabulously. I love it. Come on, we'll be the

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>random couple and we have this one couple from Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Meredith, thank you, thank you, thanks

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.000
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