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Speaker 1: going to talk to a veteran who has gone from

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Speaker 2: Right? Steve Morgan with Primary Arms.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, we're the optics division over here. So Primary

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Speaker 3: Arms Optics yep.

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Speaker 1: And Primary Optics. Now, let me go ahead and read

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Speaker 1: a little bit about that. Thanks for being on the

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Speaker 1: show first of all, Now, thank you appreciate it. About

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Speaker 1: Primary Optics, right, let's just jump into what you transitioned

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Speaker 1: to after you were in the army.

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Speaker 2: So found it in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: the very beginning of the show. Did I set that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 1: So, and so, before you got into Primary Arms, you

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Speaker 1: decided to leave high school and join the military.

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Speaker 2: How old were you when you joined the military.

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Speaker 3: I was seventeen, so I was a waiver joining Yep.

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Speaker 3: I actually didn't tell my mom that I was joining

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Speaker 3: the army, and I needed her to side my waiver.

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Speaker 3: So I told her that the government was going to

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Speaker 3: give me a physical so I could go play hockey.

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Speaker 3: And she's like, oh that's great. Then we don't have

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Speaker 3: to pay for a physical. Awesome deal. So I splid

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Speaker 3: her the paperwork, she signed off on it, and I

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Speaker 2: So, oh wow, you really pulled one over on mom. Right.

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Speaker 1: They say that you'd be an actor if you can

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Speaker 1: lie to your mom. If you can get away with

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. You're like, yo, Mom, just sign us off.

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Speaker 1: I need to get a physical, right, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go play hockey. It'll be great.

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Speaker 1: So so seventeen and then all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 4: Pretty much? Yeah? Well I called her.

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Speaker 3: So it was after I was done with Maps, with

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Speaker 3: they had a really good offer down here and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, I got some food. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I got this. So off you go to infantry. Did

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Speaker 1: you go to like Fort Benning, Georgia? Is that still

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Speaker 4: Oh, it was still good. It was a good unit.

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Speaker 1: So Pacific Northwest. You went up to the northwest Washington, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was I think the longest stretch of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you ain't training if it ain't raining, right,

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Speaker 3: I got there right as they were getting ready to

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Speaker 4: They were just training vehicles. But yeah, that was kind

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Speaker 3: And after I was there for a couple of months,

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Speaker 3: we got our shipment of brand new Strikers in and

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Speaker 4: They're like cool, all right, all right, deploy So we're like, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, you know, we got cool in new vehicles,

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Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, you're leaving those here. There's Strikers in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in and out, in and out, in and out,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in and out.

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Speaker 3: It was an experience that that first one that was

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Speaker 1: Did you have did you guys get into like you know,

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Speaker 1: conflict and enemy fire on the strikers while you're in them.

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Speaker 1: It's like tinting, did you oh all the time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was actually the so our first our first tick

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Speaker 2: The dude so so so mechanize.

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Speaker 1: So you go from seventeen year old getting Mickey D's

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Speaker 1: with your recruiter, going to Metz yep, going up showing

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Speaker 1: a healthy brown round to the to the doctor. Okay,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm good to go, and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're going to Washington.

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Speaker 2: You all of a sudden, I'm infantry.

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Speaker 1: They're like, hey, you're gonna get a ride though with

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Speaker 2: You're like all right, and so you're really attached.

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Speaker 1: To that, like like a womb, right, Like that striker

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Speaker 1: is where you guys live, get in, get out. You

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Speaker 1: guys are constantly communicating with it at all times, right,

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Speaker 1: Like they're talking to you while you get out, you

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Speaker 1: on that that mission.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was you.

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Speaker 3: Know, working out of the Strikers was we didn't have

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Speaker 4: We got we got rides most of the places we went.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing like, because the Striker was so new

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Speaker 3: to run. The only weapon system that we had originally

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Speaker 3: the Martin nineteen's. Later on they came out with like

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Speaker 1: It, like on a Bradley right, Ady has like a

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Speaker 3: But the Brads have that twenty five milimeter bush Master

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Speaker 3: the change and then they've got that tow missile pot

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Speaker 3: fifty or a Mark nineteen sitting on a remote weapon

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Speaker 3: So it was good against small arms EFPs like that

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Speaker 3: was That's what ended up kind of finishing.

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Speaker 2: The Tell me what an e FP is, Tell me.

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Speaker 3: What it's explosively form penetrator. So it's basically like a

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Speaker 3: copper bowl with a charge behind it, and when the

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Speaker 3: charge goes off, it inverts that copper into a basically

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Speaker 3: a liquid dart or a semi solid dart. And those

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Speaker 3: things punched through anything, it doesn't matter. They'll they'll cut

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Speaker 3: through abums like butter It went through strikers like it

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Speaker 3: wasn't even there, and those.

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Speaker 2: Or something how like a thermite charge or something just

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Speaker 2: eat through what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so hot and so fast it just

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Speaker 3: it burns through everything. It's a it's Those things are nasty.

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Speaker 3: EFPs were definitely one of the biggest threats that we had.

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, I wrote a gelled rocket fuel platter

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Speaker 3: charge actually drove over the top of it. Was the estimated

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Speaker 3: it was about four hundred and fifty pounds that detonated

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Speaker 3: under my vehicle. We got a slight breach in the hall,

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Speaker 3: but you know, for the most part we were kind

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Speaker 3: of jacked up a little bit feet broken bones and

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I didn't.

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Speaker 1: So you got the you got the lowest bidder coming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's it's the Outpreas you finish up, you

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Speaker 3: And my first thing was, dude, I'm retired. Now I

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Speaker 4: Time with myself. I don't know how I've been married to.

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Speaker 3: My wife for twenty one years now, and I don't

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Speaker 4: But I couldn't do two weeks.

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I was like, I am miserable to

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Speaker 2: You gotta be funny.

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Speaker 1: Like I know where my wife and I have the same

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Speaker 2: That's love.

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Speaker 4: That's love, right, Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: So you have a supporting significant other at home and

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Speaker 4: She helps helps calm me down. If not calm me down,

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Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, she's she's down to roll all

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Speaker 4: Yep, exactly, you know, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Well, always be nice to your medic. The medics, the cooks,

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Speaker 4: Be friends with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, be friends with that guy. Just be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll take whatever shift, but can I have the one

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Speaker 1: Let me, yeah, exactly, Yeah, but not like the eleven

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Speaker 1: You know, kindness goes a long way. Now now we're

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Speaker 3: So right now we've got one US made and it's

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Speaker 2: Right, it is made. Is it made in Texas?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we we put it all together and build it

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Speaker 3: we build them all here in Houston.

440
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 2: It's called the ht X DASH.

441
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: One is the US made optic and that fits a

442
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 1: multitude of pistols that have a rear mounting site capability,

443
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: right for like an RMR or like a rear red dot.

444
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: Is that what we're talking about.

445
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's kind of one of the coolest

446
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: features about it.

447
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 4: So, like I've got one here.

448
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: You can see just the raw body there isn't a footprint,

449
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 3: not a specific footprint for anything anyway. So when we

450
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: initially set out with a design of this, instead of

451
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: using like some type of plate system to adapt your

452
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: gun to the dot that you're mounting it to, we

453
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 3: want to adapt our dot to whatever platform you're putting

454
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 3: it on. By doing that, we can keep it as

455
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: low as possible, because anytime you use a plate, you're

456
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: going to lift that thing up off the slide a

457
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: little bit more and a little bit more and a

458
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: little bit more depending on the plate system, and you're

459
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: gonna lose your co witness.

460
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 4: You're going to change the way you shoot that gun.

461
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 3: So a good example is somebody who's really used to

462
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: shooting like iron sights on a glock. Now they're going

463
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 3: to throw a dot on there, and now they've got

464
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 3: to switch over to suppressor eye sights. They actually watch

465
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: these dudes pick this gun up, but they've been shooting

466
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: for ten, fifteen, twenty years, and they pick the gun

467
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: up and then their chin goes because they've got to

468
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: come up another half inch. So now they're yeah, because

469
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: they're used to presenting flat, and then people come up.

470
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: And it's they're losing that time.

471
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: So if we can make something low enough where we

472
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: don't have that issue, then they don't have to use

473
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: suppressor eyes, sights, they don't have to change the way

474
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: they shoot. All they're doing is they're basically inserting a

475
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: red dot into the platform that they know and love.

476
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: So they're gaining that additional functionality without losing anything, without

477
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: changing anything, without.

478
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: Having to retrain, because retraining's hard.

479
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean all of us that have been doing something

480
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: one way forever, like just a slight.

481
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: Variance to that, and it's like, no, I don't like

482
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: this anymore. This isn't this isn't my thing.

483
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: Right, change and we resist change.

484
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

485
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're like whoa, whoa.

486
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 1: Because I wrapped my hands for boxing a certain way

487
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: and I have for a while, and my coach is like, no,

488
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: you should do it this way, and I'm like, yeah,

489
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm still doing it the other way.

490
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

491
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: The one time you like do horrible in the fight,

493
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: everything hurts, like you get ko right three seconds in

494
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: a round one.

495
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: It's like, because of these stupid raps, I told you

496
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: I need to do it.

497
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: The other yeah, right, right, exactly exactly.

498
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: It's just like the simplest thing it's like, you know,

499
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: you sit here and you put the ball in the basket.

500
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: You put the ball in the basket. You put the

501
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: ball in the basket, and now you got to.

502
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: Put the red dot in the basket, and so you

503
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: have to just acquire that. But what I like about

504
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: a red dot for what we use is you just

505
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: open site picture. You just find that red dot. You

506
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: just know that it's zeroed into your coat witness of

507
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: your your platform, and pop, pop pop this wherever my

508
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: I see the red dot is where I should be

509
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: placing it.

510
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's target focus shooting. So you don't have to

511
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 3: you're not looking at that front side anymore.

512
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: You're not yeah, you know, swinting.

513
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to squint, you know, it should be

514
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: just both eyes open scanning, you know, peripheral vision going on.

515
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: So we do a lot of war games here in Utah, right,

516
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: So one of my main things is getting like one

517
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: hundred and two hundred guys together, like us, guys who

518
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: could never serve guys with asthma. Things like guys goals

519
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: and they go after replica pistols like the M seventeen.

520
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: We have an Airsoft version of it. We have the

521
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: glocks we had at charge.

522
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: You know, all.

523
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 4: Every replica guns are amazing.

524
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: Right, and so something like this, you know, if it

525
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: comes at a price point that's like maybe I don't know,

526
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm guessing like three five hundred dollars. That's something that

527
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: an injuries are like my own crew would put on

528
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: their guns. We got eotech, We've got you know, all

529
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: these different things, and so you know, Tucha cons guys

530
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: spend thermal We have hollowsome thermal optics on six hundred

531
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: dollars guns. Yeah, yea, So hunting each other at night

532
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: with there's your soul, hunting through the fog at Camp

533
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: Pendleton when ocean side rolls in and the fogs all

534
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: over there, We're like, how come nobody can see nothing

535
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: in all you years?

536
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Hit? Hit? My guys are just looking through the fog

537
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: with thermals.

538
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: Right, yep.

539
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: And so and so to be able to have like

540
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, a primary arms rear amount of sight on

541
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: a multitude of pistols, I'm just how much is this

542
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: thing going to go for?

543
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: Can you give me kind of a price point?

544
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the US one, I mean, that's that's kind

545
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: of the cash twenty two to it when you build

546
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: stuff in the US, it's.

547
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Not cheap prices.

548
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's definitely a premium dot. And we're

549
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: running MSRP on this thing with the Vulcan Radical, which

550
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: I'll go over here in a second, is right around

551
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: the seven fifty Street price is going to be less,

552
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: of course. And then if you just do a dot

553
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 3: and not the Vulcan to standard for MOI dot, you're

554
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: looking right around like the seven and six ninety nine

555
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: as an MSRP, so Street's a little bit lower on it.

556
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 3: But that's kind of the cool thing about primary ms

557
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 3: optics is we do a multitude of optics. So like

558
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 3: for the dudes that are looking for dots for training

559
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: or for like throwing them on, they're high Kapa, are there?

560
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: Whatever? Yeah there? You know.

561
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: We do a in our CLX series or our Classic series,

562
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: we do a arm our footprint and we also do

563
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: an RMSC footprint red dot that retails at like one

564
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks with a lifetime. So you take

565
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: a BB to that thing, or take a header off

566
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: of a set of stairs and you crush it, like

567
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: I give you know what.

568
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: It's primary arms to be stocked at my store A

569
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: S A P.

570
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: I just want to put them out. Oh yeah, one

571
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: hundred percent. You know, we'll we'll, we'll work that out,

572
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: no problem. I'm actually expanding into a new kill house

573
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: and nice. Yeah, I got about a ten thousand square

574
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: foot kill house right now.

575
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: And then you know that we do.

576
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of the side that this is.

577
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: I love to do this interview right here, all right.

578
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: I love to be on this podcast and talk to

579
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: guys like yourself and gals and learn about you and

580
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: and the side gigs that I do.

581
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: There's just so many other things like the.

582
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: War games and the indoor kill house and you know

583
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: all that replica firearms that I deal with.

584
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: The muscle memory is one to one and.

585
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same.

586
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: I got into it, like I've been playing for I

587
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: don't know, five six years now, seven years longer than

588
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: that long time. And I got into it for the

589
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: reps because I just wanted to, like, hey, I want

590
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: to be able to shoot my pistol in my house.

591
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: And at the time, I was living in Wisconsin and

592
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 3: it's cold in the winter time. It's just snows all

593
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: the time. It's always cold, or it's oppressively humid one

594
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: of the two and being able to shoot inside and

595
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: get those reps in you know, site picture, side alignment,

596
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: trigger press.

597
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: It's transition from target to target. It's huge. And then

598
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: I've like, oh, other people like this too, and now.

599
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: I can shoot other people this and I will ask

600
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: and it's just like this big thing that comes out.

601
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: And then you go and you have access to facilities

602
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: all over the country. You can go out to GTI,

603
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: you can get and you know, if you and I

604
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: wanted to go out there, we got to pay thirty

605
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: k to get in there for a Saturday and Sunday

606
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: if there aren't any other trainings going on. Correct, but

607
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: you got to do a big like meal sim event

608
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: or something. In these places, it's one hundred and fifty

609
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: two hundred fifty bucks in you're in and you can

610
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: go train at these multimillion dollar facilities.

611
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: The training value it's huge.

612
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: Now there is the airsoft aspect of it, and sometimes

613
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: air softers are going to airsoft. Anybody who plays and

614
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: knows exactly what that means.

615
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: Percent Nothing gets away from use, the real smell.

616
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Nothing can get away from the smell and the fear

617
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: of a real platform of a firearm. Yeah, nothing that's

618
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: ever going to like take away the bang this is?

619
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: Is this loaded? It's completely disassembled on my desk. Is

620
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: it loaded?

621
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: You know? You're like it's.

622
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Completely dissembled, but you might be loaded, right, Like, you know,

623
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to pull your you.

624
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: Can still bite. It's like a headless snake.

625
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, sharts something about you, you know.

626
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: And so you know a lot of people say airsoft

627
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: teaches bad habits, and I'm like, tell me the bad habit,

628
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the bad habit. And so the

629
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: bad is we hunt other people like consistently, Like my

630
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: bad habit is I point my gun at somebody.

631
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Don't do that, you know, And you're not supposed to

632
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: do that. No, I meant to do that.

633
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: It's intending, right, So to intend to shoot at what

634
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: you aim at. That's the whole point of using your gun.

635
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: And so it's like my dad always taught me, hey,

636
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: don't point it unless you intend. And I'm like, well,

637
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: there's three guys over in a bunker. I totally intend.

638
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, exactly. So

639
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: other than that, it's like there's a lot of same

640
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: disciplines A lot of same. You know, safety guardrails are

641
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: in place, like don't sweep me, don't muzzle flash me,

642
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. And it's a great learning ground,

643
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: okay to teach as well. And again, some people who

644
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: have asthma or like a premature eye for birth, nothing

645
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: they can do about it. They just can't enlist, they

646
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: can't go. Yeah, it's like what do they get to do? Well,

647
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: they get to throw on some gear, run outside and

648
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: go fight for five or ten hours in the day

649
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: in the desert with us, and they get to like,

650
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe shoulder to shoulder with a guy like

651
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: yourself who's been playing for six years now, and like, hey,

652
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: what's up, bro?

653
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: It's like, what is that on your gun? Oh?

654
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: You mean the primary arms optic that I have on

655
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: my airsoft pistol that I got from Rad's store.

656
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: What or wherever you get it? I'm just saying, right,

657
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: because that's that's that's.

658
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Just one avenue for you guys to always think about, right,

659
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: which you obviously do. The other is, obviously the agencies

660
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and the folks that are like, you know, always wanting

661
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: to have it there for that exact reason. I just

662
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: don't see any difference between having an M seventeen or

663
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: P three twenty and M seventeen P three twenty with

664
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the dot you can take the dot off or put

665
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: it on yours, or take the dot off and put

666
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: it on the airsoft one so that you can always

667
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: train with it in your house and have that same clarity,

668
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: the same you know, chrispness that you want to see

669
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: from that radical. You know, there's these there's radicals on

670
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: the market. I've seen them. I've seen a.

671
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Ton of them.

672
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: A ton of them have been to like seventeen shot shows,

673
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, and like how many times, how many optics

674
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: can you see? You know, these were made in China,

675
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: these were made overseas, These made here, multiple radicals inside.

676
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, but there's a little blur in it,

677
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: or it doesn't quite it's just not quite crisp. But

678
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: then you get somebody who puts love, energy, passion into

679
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: a device. They say, hey, you know, if we had

680
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: this type of fiber in it, it would be brighter and crisper.

681
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Those types of things are priceless because it matters when

682
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: you're getting into a firefight.

683
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all about you know, speed to first

684
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: round on target, and there's certain things you can do.

685
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: Nothing can ever replace training.

686
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got to choose between buying a

687
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: four thousand dollars gun or spending one thousand dollars on

688
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: a gun three thousand dollars on Ammo and going to shoot,

689
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: buy the thousand dollars gun, spend the rest of it

690
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: on AMMO, go shoot. Training. Training. Training. That being said,

691
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: and there are technology or technologies out there. There are

692
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: equipment suggestions and equipment choices out there that can help to.

693
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: Bridge that training gap.

694
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: I've mentioned briefly the Vulcan Radical when I was talking

695
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: about the HTx here, and that's one of those pieces

696
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: of technology that can help bridge the gap. So people

697
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: that are transitioning over to a pistol optic for the

698
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: first time, the hardest thing they kind of struggle with

699
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: is finding the dot in that window.

700
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: So with iron sights, it's easy.

701
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: I can see where my front side is, so I

702
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: can drop that ball in the basket. Every single time

703
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: I can see where it is, I can drive the

704
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: gun to get my front site post into my rear.

705
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: Notch with a red dot.

706
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: If that dot's not in the window, I have no

707
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: idea where it is. That's when you see a lot

708
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: of guys when they we call it fishing.

709
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: For the dots.

710
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: So they'll get their gun and they'll sit there and

711
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: you can see them kind of doing this because they're

712
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: looking for that dot with the vulcan. Our vulcan has

713
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 3: a in the HTx is a two and forty our

714
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: circle and are other optics. We've out a two hundred

715
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: and fifty way out of circle, but when you present

716
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 3: it correctly, you can't see it.

717
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: You can't see that circle. All you see is the dot,

718
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: which is the site picture that you want.

719
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: If you come up with a bad grip out of

720
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: the holster, you're shooting around the barricade, you know you're

721
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: somebody shooting at you, and it's a very reaction. Oh shit,

722
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: I got to shoot back. And you don't have that

723
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: perfect side limit site picture. You lose the dot in

724
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: the window because that circle's so big. You can still

725
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: see the circle, so you know which way to drive

726
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: that gun to get it back to center.

727
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: Everybody knows how to.

728
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: Find the center of a circle, unless you're in the

729
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: Marine Corps, in which case you to ask your anybody

730
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: and I'll help you but you can drive that right

731
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: back to center and pick up that good site picture.

732
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: So we're increasing that first round on target speed. And like,

733
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: the dude who sits right behind me is actually my boss.

734
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: He's Marine Corps. We got a bunch of Marine Corps UDEs. Oh,

735
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: I believe it.

736
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: Anybody who's in it's you know.

737
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: We can all make fun of each other if somebody

738
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: from the outside makes fun of us, and we all

739
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: gang up on that one person on the outside.

740
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, dude, I'll tell you my buddy

741
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: that works up in light and shot Mitch. I'll give

742
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: him a shout out. He's a love and bravo. My

743
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: office manager up there, pax Uh you know, has that

744
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: circle with the chevron on his red dot ready to go.

745
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: He is that guy. He also loves Primary Arms and

746
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: so when I was telling him I was going to

747
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: have you guys on the show, He's just like, yeah,

748
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And he's the guy that should be really like,

749
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: I should have said, write me everything you wanted to

750
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: know about Primary Arms, and he would tell you about

751
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: your company. He's so he can't help it. He can't

752
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: help it.

753
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: He's got I'm the same way it's my My wife

754
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: tells me like every time. I'm like, you know, I

755
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: was thinking about getting into and she's just no, no, no,

756
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: because there's no like little bit. I'm not gonna like

757
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: dabble in this a little bit. It's I go whole hog.

758
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: It's and it doesn't matter what it is. I'm a

759
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: big radio nerd, so I do like ham radio stuff,

760
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: scuba dive, I do motorcycles, guns. Guns has been the

761
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: biggest consistent I've out of my life. But it is

762
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: it is full send on everything and unfortunately everything I

763
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: like to do.

764
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: Like I don't have cheap bobbies. I mean I got

765
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 4: a room full of airsoft. Gots it up.

766
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: I got a whole shop and I'm another a kill

767
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: house for airsoft.

768
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I've dedicated.

769
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: And started is one weekend. You're like this seems.

770
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. No, that's like a lifestyle. I've invested everything.

771
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I put my neck on the line for it. You

772
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: know the podcast, I go full speed on the podcast.

773
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I love that, dude. I love that your full speed

774
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: all the time. And what you love to do is

775
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: you're passionate about those things and get out of the Yeah, yeah,

776
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: just get out of your way, and so you probably

777
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: really enjoy working at Primary Arms. And so, as someone

778
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: who transitioned out of the military at Primary, now tell

779
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: me something, did you are you the founder? How did

780
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the Primary Arms come about in two thousand and eight?

781
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: No?

782
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: No, yeah, So I work for him, the owner of

783
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: the company. His name is Marshall Learner. Awesome dude, really

784
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: really cool guy.

785
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: One of the.

786
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: Nicest, kind of most caring dudes I think I've ever

787
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to work for is It really is great.

788
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: He's also big into cars, which is cool because I

789
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: like him too, and he's got a lot cooler cars

790
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: than I do. But he actually started off selling optics

791
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: on air fifteen dot com on rfcom kind of through

792
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: the back of his barbershop. He owned a couple of

793
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: barbershops at the time, and that's how it started.

794
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: He's basically on.

795
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: The forums, and you know people on forums, they're there,

796
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: they haven't changed over the years. So somebody was basically like,

797
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: you know, you can't get any good optics. There's no

798
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: such thing as good stuff from overseas, from China, from Japan,

799
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: from wherever. And Marshall's like, well, you know, if you

800
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: if you design it right and you have a good

801
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: manufacturing partner and you hold them up to their quality,

802
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: you can get good stuff. So a dude on the

803
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: forum is keyboard warring it. He's like, prove it.

804
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: Do with that.

805
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: So Marshall's like okay, and he flew overseas. He went

806
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: visited a bunch of factories and got established a really

807
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: good relationship with the one that he liked, and he

808
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: brought in the first thing. It was a red dot,

809
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: a little just standard red dot. Brought that in and

810
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: offered it up on art coom and boom sold out immediately,

811
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: so he got some more. And then oh, that's that's

812
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: cool too. Let's let's do something with this other optic.

813
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: And he brought that in and it just kind of

814
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: grew and grew from there, and he started selling out

815
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: of there's a strip mall here in Houston that he

816
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: moved the first Primary Arms into. And that's when he

817
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: kind of picked up other stuff as well. So if

818
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: anybody knows Primary Arms, dot com sell everything. You can

819
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: buy guns, Ammo, you can buy optics, you can buy

820
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: other people's optics. They sell you know, all the big brands,

821
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: Vortex and Trigicon and everybody's in there. And he did

822
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: that at that strip mall, and it grew and grew

823
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: and grew, and he'd buy more spaces and more spaces

824
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: until basically owned the whole thing and just ran out

825
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: of space, right And that's when he made the transition

826
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: and moved to the location there now, which is actually

827
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: across the street from here. It's on the south side

828
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: on Beltway in two eighty eight, on the south side

829
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: of Houston. Gorgeous building. It is absolutely jammed a capacity

830
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: right now. And because you know, the growth just never

831
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: stopped right then, we bought and started to build out

832
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: over here about three years ago because originally Optics was

833
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: operating kind of out of the back corner of that,

834
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: and we kept growing and kept growing, and then we

835
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: started this main USA project and we knew that that

836
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: wasn't going to happen in the building over there. So

837
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: we got this facility where a little over fifty thousand

838
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: square feet here and this is where we do everything.

839
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm over here on the marketing and

840
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: product development side. We've got our engineering team over here,

841
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: our sales teams over there, supply chains over here, our

842
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: inspections are actually done right outside of my door. We've

843
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: got our inspections area. Which of primary arms optics that

844
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: go out to the world are inspected the facility. Yeah,

845
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: it's every single one of them, gets hands on them.

846
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: Anybody who has a primary room's optic, open the box up,

847
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: look in the lid.

848
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: You'll see a stamp with a number on it.

849
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 3: That's the inspection stamp, every single one, which is pretty impressive.

850
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: A lot of companies do and this isn't the first

851
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: optics company that I work for, and I can tell

852
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: you a lot of the other optics companies out there.

853
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 4: They'll do just a ten percent.

854
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: So they get one hundred cases in, they'll inspect one case,

855
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: good to go. Okay, yep, we'll go and we'll ship

856
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: it out, and you know, usually it's pretty good.

857
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: Return rates aren't too bad.

858
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: But every now and again you get a lemon with ours,

859
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: our return rates under one percent.

860
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: Because every single one is.

861
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: Inspected and we have a threshold of acceptable fallout, there's

862
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: you know, well we'll catch them, pull them out of line,

863
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: and sometimes they're just blems, like it's just a small

864
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: cosmetic thing. We've actually got kind of a joke outside

865
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: that they'll they'll bring stuff into us and we'll take

866
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: a look at it and like, so, what's wrong with this?

867
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: Like now, look if you see here there's like a

868
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: little abnormality in the thing, and you're looking and you're

869
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: looking like.

870
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't see it.

871
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: They're like, well, it's there, and it's I mean, okay

872
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: if you say it's there and then they gets.

873
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: Out or whatever it is, but field bro just destroy

874
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: the field.

875
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's insane.

876
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: Like they can actually look through scopes like they take

877
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, this is one of our new big boys.

878
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: So they can look through this and they can focus

879
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: on separate elements of glass inside of it to make

880
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: sure that everything is right. If there's dust on like

881
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: the second set of doublets that sitting in here, Oh

882
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: there's dust in it, and then they'll bleme it out.

883
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: Like it's incredible that the very unique skill that comes

884
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: with that job. They've absolutely mastered out there, which is

885
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: pretty neat. Yeh here for three years, built out the

886
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 3: clean room here and you know, started producing and doing

887
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: prototyping and the HTx and started building out and stuff

888
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: like that. Now we're denounced, we're in production. We're starting

889
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: to make them and it's exciting a lot of growth

890
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: in a very very short time.

891
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of shout out to Marshall for just

892
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: persevering and just saying prove me wrong kind of thing.

893
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, okay, forums, he's sitting.

894
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Here going snip snip, snip, snip snip, looking at his forums,

895
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: cutting hair. He's like optics out the back door, and

896
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: now he's got fifty thousand score foot facility. I'm literally

897
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: looking at a thirty three thousand square foot facility here

898
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. My price is per square footage?

899
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: Is?

900
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: It's not cheap? Right? These things?

901
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: I mean, we're Houston, we're downtown. He used to like this.

902
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: It's not cheap either.

903
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: No, No, it's the facility street.

904
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: The main facility is twice as big as this one.

905
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: Is massive, massive, damn.

906
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys need to make a little indoor CQB

907
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: shoot house in a corner of it and have them

908
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: come in and play a little bit there and maybe

909
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: check out what you have for them to see.

910
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just thinking already.

911
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: So I actually put together it's called tactics and tacos.

912
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do taco Tuesday.

913
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this. There's this little Mexican good spot next

914
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: to the indoor place we go.

915
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: We get together once a month and there's a bunch

916
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 3: of people from the office here and it's it's open

917
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 3: to everybody, every and whoever wants to come up. I've

918
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: got a bunch of guns that I get ready, I

919
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: charge the batteries. I got Amma magazines to like, you

920
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: come pay your field entry fee, I will give you

921
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: everything else else play, which I think if you like it,

922
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: like it, go by year and you'll be and everybody

923
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: likes it, like they go in and play once and

924
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: then as soon as they're done with.

925
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: That, they're going over to the store with a card

926
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: in there and they're ready.

927
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: To ye, like what can I and and and and

928
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: the more real it is from a real manufacturer, the

929
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: better we like it as consumers in war games and

930
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: airsoft because we want we want the real thing. You know,

931
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: a lot of the gear that guys at our level

932
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: are wearing is deployed gear that's been purchased or you know,

933
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they could never get in and get

934
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: this JPC plate carrier, but yeah, here's one for a

935
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: certain amount and they can afford it, they buy it.

936
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: These dues are kidded out to the nines.

937
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: You know.

938
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: I got guys in the Guard. In the Guard he

939
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: has a.

940
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: High cut on his helmet and they're like, who are

941
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: you high speed? And he's like, oh, I'm private first

942
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: class so and so. And they're like, hey, why do

943
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: you got a high cut in a cobra buckle belt?

944
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, I know rad and they're like,

945
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: can you get us five more? I love the guard

946
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: I love the guard man because those guys wait all

947
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: month long to go blow stuff up on the weekend

948
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: and they want to look good doing it. It's not

949
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: they have to do it every day. So I love

950
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: the guard bro. I love the guard All guards are great,

951
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: even you Air Guard, Marine Corps guarden. There's no Marine

952
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Corps guard. That's a joke to the Marines. No Marine

953
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Corps guard.

954
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: Except if Marine Corps had a guard, they'd be the

955
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: best on guardian out there.

956
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no. So primary arms are

957
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: you guys looking for anybody to come on board with

958
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: your fifty thousand square foot warehouse and the double the

959
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: size on the other cross the street. If I'm a

960
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: veteran or somebody's out there in the market and they're like, hey,

961
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: how do I put my skill set to use? You know,

962
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: I've been a gunsmith in the army, working in the

963
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: armory for the last fifteen years. I need to do something.

964
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Do you think can they reach out to Primary Arms?

965
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah.

966
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: So if you go to our website right down at

967
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: the bottom, there's a tab that says careers, click into that.

968
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: It's got all open job listings. You know, when we

969
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: open a job listing up, we don't just open it internally.

970
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: We just don't just open it externally. When we open it,

971
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 3: it's open to everybody. Because Marshall's got to saying he's

972
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: he's proud to be able to put the right people

973
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: in the right seats on the bus. And that's what's

974
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: built in the success of Primary Arms and Primary MS

975
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: Optics is having those right people in place, and you know,

976
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: you might be the right person, might be on the

977
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: wrong seat, So there's always opportunity to share around and

978
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: do the thing that both benefits you as well as

979
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: benefits your organization and with for veterans, especially dudes that

980
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: are getting out. Veterans know what it is to be

981
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: committed to the suck. So like, even though it's miserable

982
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: and you don't want to do it, you're gonna burn

983
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: that basically burn the fifty five gallon drum of shit

984
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: that came out of the bottom of that porta John,

985
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: because that's your job and if you don't do.

986
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: It, somebody else has to do it and to get done. Yeah,

987
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: it's got to get done.

988
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: And so a lot of it's have that mindset of like,

989
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna buckle into this thing

990
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna do it because I made a

991
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: commitment and this is my job and I'm going to

992
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: keep doing it.

993
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 4: You know, that's not what we look for here.

994
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: We want people that know what their strong suits are,

995
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: that know how to value themselves and then how they

996
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: can benefit the organization.

997
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: Like there's there's dedication and there's a free course.

998
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: So like I'm extremely proud to work for PAO and

999
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: they're is that dedication to the brand where all I

1000
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: want is Primary Arms Optics. When I compete, I'm running

1001
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 3: Primary Arms Optics. Everything I do is p AO. It's

1002
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: I live breathing po I want the brand to grow

1003
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 3: and succeed regardless of my involvement in it. I want

1004
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: to make sure that everybody here is elevated to the

1005
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: maximum their potential. And that's the mindset that you look

1006
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: for in those employees, which which you know veterans have

1007
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: that in them, but they do have that part where

1008
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: they just they hold on to that thing doing something

1009
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: that they hate.

1010
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: But that's their job and they're going to keep doing it.

1011
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: Like it's okay to be like, yo, this isn't for me,

1012
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: This isn't I'm more of a vanilla ice cream guy,

1013
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: and all you've got strawberry over here. I'm not into it.

1014
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: And it's it's okay to let go of that and

1015
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: then move over to something that you think is going

1016
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: to make you happier. And if it doesn't, it doesn't

1017
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: you know by gone snow killings, and yeah, you find

1018
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: something that does.

1019
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, we look for that, We look for the dedication.

1020
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: We look for pride and sell as well as pred

1021
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: and unit or in our case, pride in the brand

1022
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: that you work for for in the company, and you know,

1023
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: the fight to move forward and grow into what we

1024
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: all know it can be.

1025
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: So I love that, now, are you guys?

1026
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Going to have any type of shot show twenty twenty

1027
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: sixth party, we're talking next year.

1028
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. We've been talking about that for the

1029
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: last couple of years.

1030
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: I really wanted to do an HTx party because I

1031
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: mean reshoring manufacturing, especially something like this. So I can

1032
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: tell you HDX developing that supply chain, it didn't exist.

1033
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: There's no like, you can't call up one eight hundred

1034
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: lenses and have them cut.

1035
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: The lens that we need to write this thing like.

1036
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: We had to first find a US lens manufacturer, which

1037
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: is not easy. There's a lot of people that cut

1038
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: lenses in the US with imported class.

1039
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: That's that wasn't what we were looking for.

1040
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: So putting all that stuff together and building that supply

1041
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: chain out now hasn't been done before. There's one of

1042
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: the glass manufacturers that we work with now they're like,

1043
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, we can build this, but the machines don't

1044
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: exist here. So we have to figure out how to

1045
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: build this. And we worked with them and we work

1046
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: together to develop that, which is really cool, a technology

1047
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: that didn't exist here in the States.

1048
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: You know, we got to develop that to help them

1049
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: make it happen.

1050
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Happen but that's I mean, it's a big deal to

1051
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 3: be able to do something like that. I really wanted

1052
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: to have a party at Vegas for it and you know,

1053
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: bring everybody in and like, you know, look y'all wanted

1054
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: us made stuff.

1055
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: We did but didn't happen. So maybe, I mean we're

1056
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: still talking about it. Maybe for next year. Well we'll see.

1057
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of cool, big things coming.

1058
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 3: So you know, that's always always a possibility.

1059
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: Put it on your calendar now so you might look

1060
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: into it. You can save a little bit of your

1061
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: books sooner, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, to get a building.

1062
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, what about this for next January?

1063
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: You're like, but it's just barely January.

1064
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, you know.

1065
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Now, I've been some crazy shots show parties, you know,

1066
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: and I've seen like snowmobile championships from pry to you know,

1067
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: all these different types of parties. So I could just

1068
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: see Primary pulling in that crowd.

1069
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1070
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: What a booth that is quote une hundred percent dude,

1071
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: a bus picture up at the Venetian takes you to

1072
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: the primary space, you know what I just saying. So

1073
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: and because I'll be there. So I'm just trying to

1074
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: get myself on the list right now.

1075
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: It's like list rad.

1076
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: You've got one of the VIP.

1077
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: That's what's up, dude.

1078
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: I just I just want to see some of your

1079
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: more cost effective optics. Probably, uh, you know, after we

1080
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: get done, I'll reach out to you and you can

1081
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: over some info and I can just have my business

1082
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: partner check it out. And if you're also a small

1083
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: business out there and you're looking to carry a product

1084
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: line that can be sustainable in your own small business,

1085
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: you got glass cases and you're locally supported, then you know,

1086
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: I would also recommend checking out Primary Arms Optics and

1087
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: you know Primary Arms honestly and seeing if you guys

1088
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: do uh I mean you have the wholesale, you have

1089
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: that whole line for distributorship to retailers like ourselves, right, yeah, yeah.

1090
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Speaker 3: We've got there's a couple of divisions of the company here,

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00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: so like the primary and wholesale is again it's a

1092
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: bunch of different brands. So if you're a dealer out there,

1093
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: if you have a small retail shop, like it's a

1094
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: it's a true B to B wholesale, so you can

1095
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: go through and order whatever you're looking for on there

1096
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: and get it shipped here and you can you know,

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00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: ship it for resale and then we do b to

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00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: be direct to retailers here with optics as well.

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00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: So optics. We don't sell directly consumers.

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00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: We're a dealer based only dot Com Worker Side, which

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00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: is another basically another company. They're the ones who do

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00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: have the consumer sales. But yeah, any of the shops

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00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 3: are out there. We love our dealer network where we've

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00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: actually I just have been back in the States now

1105
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: for three days after a month long trip overseas. We

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00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: had wa Yeah, yeah, the European Shot Show and before that,

1107
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: which is like a big the same sort of thing,

1108
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: but it's more like military police, law enforcement, that tactical stuff.

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00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: You know, G wagons with fiber rocket launcher.

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00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, bro.

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00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 4: All that stuff. Yeah, it's a wild show. Crazy.

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00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: The g wagons I see driving around Draper Utah, Sandy,

1113
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: Utah where I live. I'm like, you guys, those are military,

1114
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: you know vehicles, and they're all like eight hundred.

1115
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars Haligen headlights. So I'm just like blacked out.

1116
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm like up armored. You can tell they're up armored.

1117
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 3: Just the way it sits on this dude, that's that's

1118
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: not a sixty eight hundred pound truck.

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: That's a that's a ten thousand.

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00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: Pounds you got right, tax right off seven thousand or more? Right?

1121
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly up armor that.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow, dude, you're so cool, bro.

1124
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on to our show, and thanks for

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00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: talking about some of your conflicts and you know, going

1126
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: over to Iraq and talking about your striker unit and

1127
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: being infantry and your mom and bringing her up and

1128
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: the love that you still have for her.

1129
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Whether she's here or not, I don't.

1130
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 4: Know, but oh yeah, she's still around, then.

1131
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: You should always just tell her I love you and

1132
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: thanks for letting me get that big mac mom.

1133
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, right, yep, every day day, every day,

1134
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: every day.

1135
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: And you have a supporting wife at home who's sitting

1136
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: there taking care of you and making sure that you

1137
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: can bounce off of her wait in more ways than one,

1138
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: I suppose.

1139
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: Yep. I do have four kids as well.

1140
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I got three kids, so we still live okay,

1141
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and Primary Arms right doing good

1142
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: things for those of us in the shooting sports industry, and.

1143
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: You know whether even if you're just like on a

1144
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: boat and you need some binoculars.

1145
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you guys have got some legit binos too, right,

1146
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and.

1147
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: Like they're great. You can kind of see them on

1148
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: the shelf behind me there. You know.

1149
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: We came out with those a couple of years ago,

1150
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: and we did a Selex and a GLX line and

1151
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm in a ten forty two. They're fantastic binoculars and

1152
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: they retail like the g Lex, a really really good

1153
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: one retail.

1154
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: They got like a compass inside of it so as

1155
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: you move around, you can see all of your different

1156
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: points of reference.

1157
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: No, we don't have we don't have any like augmented

1158
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: feature sets in there that like, we don't have image

1159
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: stabilization or compass.

1160
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: Or anything in there yet.

1161
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: We might there's enough demand for it for sure, But

1162
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: I mean the retail on you're looking like two hundred

1163
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: bucks less than two hundred bucks.

1164
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: The SLX is.

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00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: Like one hundred and fifty is I mean, it's super

1166
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: approachable price points. Again, a lifetime warranty, so you got

1167
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: them on the boat. Unfortunately, you drop them off your

1168
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: boat there. The like I need them to be able

1169
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: to replace the back. Actually, call me up because I'm

1170
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 3: a diver, So tell me you dropped them. I'll get them.

1171
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: There might be a slight finder's feed for it, bring

1172
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: them up to the top of or a place for it.

1173
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: Did you dive Lake Michigan when you lived in Wisconsin?

1174
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: Is that where you do? Did you die?

1175
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: No?

1176
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: Actually, so my wife and I got certified down here,

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00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: which I should have just done enough on Wisconsin because

1178
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: we got certified in January in Houston when we did

1179
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: our final checkout dive was fifty one degrees freezing.

1180
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: It was miserable.

1181
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: And but yeah, I mean summertime when you got bathwater

1182
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: basically that you're diving in if you're doing greenwater, and

1183
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: then down on the golf down in Cosmo, Mexico, all

1184
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: over the place.

1185
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's really nice. See.

1186
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: My dad grew up in Two Rivers, Wisconsin, which is

1187
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: on the border of the Lake Michigan right there. I

1188
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: used to leave it at my grandpa's house and go

1189
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: fish on the pier on Lake Michigan. But that end

1190
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: of the day, my dad used to go scuba dive

1191
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: an old tugboat wreckage or something, and he had a tug.

1192
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1193
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I just that's what I was thinking. Did you scuba

1194
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: dive of Lake Michigan?

1195
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: You know?

1196
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 4: So Yeah, there's there's some really cool diving on Lake Michigan,

1197
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 4: really cool.

1198
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: I haven't done it yet, but that's definitely one of

1199
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: the bucketless dives I want to do. There's a cool

1200
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: wood boat, like big wood sailing vessel wreck that's out

1201
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: there you can dive.

1202
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: I'd love to get down on that thing. That thing

1203
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: is right, such a cool boat to see.

1204
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: Dude, you're awesome. Bro Okay, I actually keep talking. I

1205
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: keep talking. I've had you for an hour. I know

1206
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: you're running a business. So thank you so much for

1207
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: being on softwap dot com and softwarep Radio and dude,

1208
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's just been a really nice time to

1209
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: have you here, Steven.

1210
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what else to tell you.

1211
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: Broo, pleasure man. I appreciate you having me on. Whenever

1212
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: you guys want.

1213
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: You're welcome back.

1214
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1215
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: If you have more products that you guys want to like,

1216
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, expose on our show and say, hey, check

1217
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: us out.

1218
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: We have a new thermal glasses. You just push the button.

1219
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: They look just like your Carreras rad You wouldn't even

1220
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: know they're thermal overlays a.

1221
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: Flylens, right, bro.

1222
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: So, if you have anything you want to bring back,

1223
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: or you want to let us know about some other

1224
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: ideas that you guys have going on at Primary Arms,

1225
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: you just let us know about it and we'll have

1226
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: you on and again, thanks so much. You can check

1227
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: out Primary Arms on X on Instagram, on Twitter is

1228
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: x so.

1229
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: You can do that and YouTube.

1230
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a YouTube account, and you know, they

1231
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: do really good footage and it's really cool looking. So

1232
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: tell them rat Sentia, tell them you came over from

1233
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: softwarep Go follow him, give them a like. And I'm

1234
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: gonna say thanks so much for being on the show.

1235
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: Dude. Everything I'll let you close it.

1236
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, appreciate it.

1237
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we we love all our customers out there,

1238
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: We love all the listeners out there.

1239
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me on.

1240
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: We'll definitely be on again because there's we're always working

1241
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: on cool stuff. Yeah, hit us up all the social

1242
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: media's Primary Arms optics type that in you're going to

1243
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 3: find us. If you see my face on it, it's

1244
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: probably one of ours. It's uh, it's that's where all

1245
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: the cool information comes out and where a lot of

1246
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: people like especially on I G and X or x, Twitter, tweet,

1247
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: space face made, whatever it is, all that stuff, That's

1248
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: where a lot of.

1249
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: The new stuff gonna debuts.

1250
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: Where you're about it first, So follow us, and we

1251
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: also love hearing from everybody out there. If you have like,

1252
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: you know, it would be cool if that's how all

1253
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: these projects start. So wouldn't it be cool if we

1254
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: had been closed pistols that you can mount in every footworn.

1255
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be cool if you had a first book

1256
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: playing rifle scope that was as bright as my red dot?

1257
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: It all starts as at So if you have ideas.

1258
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 1: This would be cool if a twenty thirty two never

1259
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: died and you didn't have to buy them and throw

1260
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: them away, you know, Like, wouldn'd be cool if you

1261
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: could have rechargeable twenty thirty two's, CR one two three a's.

1262
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like some of these little things. Now,

1263
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: okay again, I'm gonna have you back on the show. Okay,

1264
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back on the show. We could talk

1265
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: all day, but I'm gonna get your info and then

1266
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: I'll start getting some of your stuff in my shop too.

1267
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: And if you're a local shop out there and you're

1268
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: looking for a edge on the market with a cool

1269
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: ass product, check out Primary Arms Optics. And this is

1270
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: rad On behalf of Steve Morgan over at Primary Arms

1271
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: and Marshall and my man, my main man, Brandon Webb

1272
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: who's also my boss, and all of the guys and

1273
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: gowns behind the scenes here, thanks so much, and Calum,

1274
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: my producer. I really appreciate you always putting this out

1275
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: there and typing all of the words out. He listens

1276
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: to the recording, he has no idea what's gonna happen.

1277
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: And then when they put it up on SOFTWAREP Radio,

1278
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: I read what he writes and I'm like, is that what.

1279
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: We talked about. That's great, that's great, you know, perfect,

1280
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: perfect sick.

1281
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: So shout out to my crew and again Primary Arms

1282
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: Optics check them out on all social medias. And this

1283
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: is rad On behalf of Steve and Brandon webs saying

1284
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: peace later.