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Speaker 1: Dirty birds. What's up. We've got a new edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle. I am your host, Will McFaddin, joined

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Speaker 1: by Tory mcaleney and filling in for tarn Walk. We've

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Speaker 1: got on the saban and we are going to be

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Speaker 1: breaking down an awesome, exciting second day of camp. So

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle here presented by Zaxby's. And I want

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Speaker 1: to start with you. What was kind of your big

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Speaker 1: feeling of the difference between Thursday's practice and Friday's practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I listened to it yesterday. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: heard Torri say it was boring, and it kind of was.

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Speaker 2: And yeah today with thank you, it was a very

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Speaker 2: stark difference.

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Speaker 1: You felt it.

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Speaker 2: I mean passes were thrown that was fun crown, so

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Speaker 2: that the energy was just different in I mean the

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Speaker 2: country music was going, it was it was a nice vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I there was. We talked about this stark difference.

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Speaker 3: It really truly did feel very, very different in terms

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Speaker 3: of the level of intensity that they were going as well.

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Speaker 3: Even when they were in eleven on eleven's it wasn't Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not going one hundred and ten percent,

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Speaker 3: They're probably going sixty seventy. No tackling, no contact, not

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Speaker 3: any of that kind of stuff. But there was a

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Speaker 3: different speed of which they were playing, and there was

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Speaker 3: a bit more like bumping and running, which is always

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Speaker 3: so exciting. How funny is it that we're just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: someone hit like bumped into somebody, Like this is so exciting.

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Speaker 3: But it really really did feel you felt the intensity

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Speaker 3: rise a little bit, and it was this very stark

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Speaker 3: difference between one day to the next, even though it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost feel like I did a poor job

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Speaker 1: of introing this podcast and setting the table first. So

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Speaker 1: I want to pull us back because I feel like

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Speaker 1: the three of us need to collectively come together and

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Speaker 1: do the fans justice, because you know, it really does

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Speaker 1: stink that the fan base can't be here for this

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Speaker 1: training camp. But today especially felt like a day where

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Speaker 1: you would have really felt kind of the crowd feeding

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Speaker 1: off of the plays that were being made out there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, a couple of players have said like, yeah, there,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to getting out in front of fans at

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Speaker 1: Secondary High School on Saturday. Come out if you guys

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Speaker 1: want to see the Falcons in person. And then later

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Speaker 1: on at the Mercedes Been Stadium practice because it's just it.

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Speaker 1: The energy is really palpable, and today was a day

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Speaker 1: that really I think would have been exciting and felt

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Speaker 1: like football is back. So we got to bring our

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Speaker 1: a game here, we got to do it justice. But Torri,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit more about the passing game,

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Speaker 1: kind of what caught your eye and when did it

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Speaker 1: begin to feel for you that like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a day where things are kind of clicking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was pretty early on. They spent the

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Speaker 3: first kind of hour of practice doing some more individual work,

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Speaker 3: which was something that they did not do the first

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Speaker 3: when you think of the dog days a camp, you

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Speaker 3: think of indie work. And so the fact that we

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Speaker 3: didn't even get that on day one was it made

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Speaker 3: today feel more like a camp practice to kind of

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Speaker 3: what you're talking about. But when they started getting into

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Speaker 3: some eleven or eleven work, some full team stuff, and

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Speaker 3: they're running through these plays and they're doing these different

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was the moment that I think defined

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Speaker 3: the day. Yeah, because you could see things were working

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Speaker 3: for this, I guess when you're talking about like Kirk

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Speaker 3: weren't that many. I'll say this too and correct me

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Speaker 1: There were I will say, I think two back to

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Speaker 1: there were a couple of things, But no, you're totally right.

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Speaker 1: By and large, it was long handoffs all day long, right.

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Speaker 3: And it was very much not necessarily what I feel

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Speaker 3: can't get over the fact of how clean it felt

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Speaker 3: talking about what this offense wants to be and kind

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Speaker 3: of what the overall expectations for this offense is. You

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Speaker 3: expect them to throw the ball. You put that much

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Speaker 3: money into the quarterback position, you put that kind of

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Speaker 3: receiver room. And I really did like to see also

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Speaker 3: how some of these receivers their roles today felt like

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Speaker 3: I ray Ry McLeod, like even Casey Washington, he got

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Speaker 3: what type of spacing there was. That to me was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you definitely saw that. I mean we were

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Speaker 2: talking about how like the offense shouldn't look this sharp

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Speaker 2: mean to harp on your point, like all the receivers

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing though, when you talk about the wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: just such a subtle, beautiful thing. But this group of

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Speaker 1: slight against the previous regime, but the passing game, and

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before on this podcast. The spacing

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Speaker 1: what you said about the clearly kind of defined roles

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Speaker 1: is you knew where kind of like each person was

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Speaker 1: like they were not on top of one another. There

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Speaker 1: were really purposeful motions. I mean, I got so excited

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Speaker 1: arena football. And you can just feel the influence of

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Speaker 1: kind of the Los Angeles offense but the extension the

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Speaker 3: And to that one drill that you're talking about too,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting because you had Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: you and Michael Pennicks that were side by side, you know,

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Speaker 3: receivers are running their routes whatever, but every single time,

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Speaker 3: in order to cue the motion, it was Kirk doing

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Speaker 3: his little arms out every single time. Wasn't anybody else

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Speaker 3: even the Michael Pennix is kind of standing there too,

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Speaker 3: It was Kirk, Like everything is running through Kirk as

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Speaker 3: it should. And that was something that I wrote about

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Speaker 3: it's truly one on one. You're out there on an

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Speaker 1: Every offense is going to have it's things that it

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Speaker 1: prioritizes and emphasizes, and it always felt like the run

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Speaker 1: game was where that previous like the Falcons offense really

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Speaker 1: was right. So again, like I think that we can

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Speaker 1: both things can be true at the same time. But

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Speaker 1: speaking of Kirk, did you guys see there was a

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Speaker 1: I think that he wasn't even thinking about this, but

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Speaker 1: he stepped up in the pocket and then stepped out

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Speaker 1: and ran. Yeah, and he actually like ran like five

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Speaker 1: collective breath hold I've ever heard it was just kind

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Speaker 3: He's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all good. So again, that's a great, great

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Speaker 1: sign that the fact that Grady Jarrett, you know, yesterday

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Speaker 1: and I'm trusting this. Imagine where I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: in two months that Kirk is is kind of already

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Speaker 1: doing these things, and it's like, imagine where he's going

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Speaker 1: a half when the season actually is here, Like he

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Speaker 1: already looks great. So I like today was such a

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Speaker 1: positive sign, I think for so many different reasons. But

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Speaker 1: Raheem and just kind of the shape and the texture

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Speaker 1: of what this camp has looked like so far, because

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Speaker 1: it's been very different to my experience. I'm a you

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Speaker 1: saw camp last year, so this is your second camp.

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Speaker 1: I mean it does it feel similar to what you

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Speaker 1: tell any clear differences? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: gets a nod over a second year player. No, no

436
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: shots at Clark Phillips, Like, I'm really optimistic about his career.

437
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: But I just again, I expect a lot of rotation.

438
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: I expect a lot of different cover. So that's really exciting.

439
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and start kind of wrapping this

440
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Speaker 1: thing up, and I want to move on to our

441
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: Camp Champ. So yeah, that was such a fun and

442
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,239
Speaker 1: exciting practice today. We had a lot of options. This

443
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: is definitely hard to decide decision. Yeah, so Torri, let's

444
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: let's start with you. Who you got to nominate?

445
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: So I know we've been talking a lot about receivers

446
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: and Kirk and the offense, and I have to stay

447
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Speaker 3: in that lane because my Camp Champ for the day,

448
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: or my nomination for Camp Champ for today is Rondell Moore.

449
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 3: Rondel Moore is someone who I have been very intrigued

450
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: to see, especially understanding how Zach Robinson would want to

451
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: use him. Specifically, He's very small, very compact, very very quick,

452
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: and you knew he was quick. I gosh, I went

453
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Speaker 3: back when he was first first signed with the Falcons

454
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Speaker 3: back in March, and he was somebody that you watch

455
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: film on you can see how quick he is. You

456
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: see kind of him as a return man. You go

457
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Speaker 3: back and you watch his combine forty and you see

458
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Speaker 3: him running a foar a sub four four like this

459
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: is someone who very obviously is quick. To actually see

460
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Speaker 3: him in person and to feel speed is something entirely different.

461
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Speaker 3: That's something that I think people at home I would

462
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Speaker 3: want to like. That's why I love it when y'all

463
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Speaker 3: are able to come and see in person, because I

464
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Speaker 3: can't remember who it was, but with some scout at

465
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Speaker 3: some point was like, when you can feel speed, you

466
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Speaker 3: know it's different. And that is something that when you

467
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: can feel the speed of Ron Delmore when he really

468
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 3: kicks it into another gear, you know you take notice

469
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Speaker 3: of it. And I did today, especially in how they

470
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Speaker 3: were using and how they were best utilizing that speed.

471
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Speaker 3: And the thing is what's hilarious is I'm talking about

472
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Speaker 3: his speed and I'm talking about how fun it was

473
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Speaker 3: to watch him operate, whether he was with Michael Pennix

474
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Speaker 3: or with Kirk Cousins, and we are two days into

475
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Speaker 3: camp and they're not running one hundred percent. What type

476
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Speaker 3: of game speed does he have? You know, Like this

477
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 3: practice speed is one thing. Game speed is something else entirely,

478
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Speaker 3: And so I'm I'm very intrigued by him. I'm very

479
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Speaker 3: excited about him.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm so quietly like optimist Karande Moore, I just

481
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Speaker 1: feel like we haven't talked enough about him. I agree

482
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Speaker 1: with you. I saw it as well. That was a

483
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: great case, Amna. Who you got his camp champ? Who

484
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Speaker 1: you nominating?

485
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Speaker 2: You know, it was a little hard to decide, like

486
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Speaker 2: I said, but I'm going with Michael Pennix Junior, I know,

487
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: and in the beginning of practice, I was like, yes,

488
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: for sure, like he's like he and for context, like

489
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Speaker 2: for a lot of the practice there's a lot of rotation,

490
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Speaker 2: but they did a lot of one versus twos, So

491
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: Michael Beennix on the second team was going against the

492
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Speaker 2: defense of ones. There was Jesse Bates, Ada Chorrell, and

493
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Speaker 2: he was making plays and he looked good for like

494
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Speaker 2: a good amount of practice. He also looked like a

495
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Speaker 2: rookie at times, which made me be like, Okay, maybe not,

496
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Speaker 2: but talking to him after, he was just like, yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: like I just I always I love football, you know,

498
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Speaker 2: like I want to play against the ones as much

499
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Speaker 2: as possible. I want to, you know, go against a

500
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Speaker 2: Jesse Bates at safety and like and have that challenge.

501
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Speaker 2: So I really like that from him. And also the

502
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: fact that it was so hot.

503
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Speaker 1: It was very hot.

504
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: It was extraordinarily hot. But this kid is from Florida

505
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: and during his press conference it reached a whole level

506
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: of hot and he was just standing there in all

507
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: black and spandex and black shocks and I'm like, couldn't

508
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Speaker 2: be me.

509
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Speaker 1: I know the exact moment that you're talking about too

510
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: something when shifted the sun literally just was like all right,

511
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: you know what, now we're cranking it up to eleven.

512
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: It's like the oven finished preheating.

513
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: I was like, why are we still asking questions? Can

514
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: we wrap this?

515
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Speaker 1: I kind of gave a glance at at Matt Haley

516
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Speaker 1: and I was just like, dude, are we are we

517
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: at last question yet? And but like multiple forces were

518
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: doing that. That's how like insanely hot it got like immediately, yeah,

519
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. That's a great point on the

520
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: and yeah, I thought. I thought this was a really

521
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Speaker 1: solid day for Michael Pennox, Like he looked in command.

522
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Speaker 3: He also has just like such a zip on the ball,

523
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Speaker 3: you know, like he really does. I know we were

524
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Speaker 3: talking about it at one point, like or maybe it

525
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Speaker 3: was Ryan deale Gotta that I was talking about who's

526
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: on our social team. But you just watch him throw

527
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: the ball and it's coming at you. Like I made

528
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: this analogy. I was like, Okay, you know in baseball,

529
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 3: when a guy really gets a hold of it and

530
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: it's like it's a line drive and it's never gonna

531
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Speaker 3: stop going. Yeah, unless someone gets in front of it.

532
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: It's just gonna continue going forever and ever. That's kind

533
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: of sometimes how when Michael Michael Pannings Junior throws the ball.

534
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: That's sometimes how I feel that.

535
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: It is getting on these receivers very quickly.

536
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 3: And again I go back to this whole thing of

537
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: like actually seeing these things in person. You can watch

538
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: it on film all as I long to actually see it.

539
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: It's a different beast entirely.

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Speaker 1: You understand why they went to his pro day and

541
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: they were just like, oh right, all right, we got it.

542
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: We can we can see this guy yeah, so, I

543
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: mean I again, like Pennix was awesome. My pick is

544
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins the other quarterback. I for the other quarterback

545
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: other You know, if people didn't know who Kirk Cousin

546
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: wants now they do no. I for for as much

547
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: clear like kind of arm talent as Michael Pennix has.

548
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: There were some moments where the polish between the two,

549
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: the twelve thirteen year veteran and then the rookie was

550
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: kind of apparent, you know, when they're doing some of

551
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: the more basic quarterback drills. Kirk's was like on the money,

552
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: same spot every single time, and then you see that

553
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: translate over to the eleven on eleven's And even with

554
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: Arnold a Bakatie had a really nice pass rush that

555
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: in a game may have been a sack. You know,

556
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: I may have given the point to Arnold there, but

557
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Kirk still got the ball out. It was a little

558
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: bit wobbly, but it was right on the money. It

559
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: was like right there. So there's a it's almost like

560
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: a golfer who may not be the furthest driver, but

561
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: it's just hitting it right in the middle of the

562
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: fairway every single time. That's Kirk Cousins, and that is

563
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: why I'm so optimistic for what this passing game can be.

564
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: It's not because he's Patrick Mahomes and gonna throw at

565
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: eighty yards. It's because he's just gonna probably be like

566
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: seventy two percent and get the ball on time to

567
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: where it needs to be and then let these really

568
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: young talented playmakers and Ronde all Moore with his freaking

569
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: road runner speed just like do the rest. And that's

570
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: kind of all this Falcons offense I think been missing,

571
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's really why I'm high on it this year.

572
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's exactly what Kirk Cousin said his very

573
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: first introductory press conference. It was about being the point

574
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: guard and just getting the ball on the hands of

575
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Speaker 3: these guys. And it's interesting too because you talk about

576
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: his accuracy and that play that we were talking about

577
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 3: earlier to it was the touchdown pass to Ray Ray

578
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: McLoud that couldn't have been placed any better. I mean,

579
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: Ray Ray mcclod is on the back hip of the

580
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: dB and coverage and it wasn't bad coverage exactly. He

581
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: was right, We're able to make a play on it,

582
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: like I mean, it was as.

583
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: Coaches would say, you just tip your cap and move on, right.

584
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to because it was a perfectly placed

585
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: ball and that's so nice to see.

586
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: All right, So this is going to be the first

587
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Speaker 1: time we've had to actually break down and figure out

588
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Speaker 1: how we're going to decide on who the Cam Champ is.

589
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: Did anybody's mind change based on the argument? Does anybody

590
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: feel like I got on? You know what?

591
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: Well?

592
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: The thing is like the wide receiver stuck out to me,

593
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: like Darnas and Rondel like also their names.

594
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: Rhyme, Darnell, Rondel, Ray Ray they were they were great.

595
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like seeing Ray Ray get out there too, right, ye,

596
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got to tip my cap to Tory.

597
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Let us go.

598
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: I love that for two on my Camp Champ nominations

599
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: because I had Grady yesterday and now I have Rondel today.

600
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Speaker 1: Who did I had James Smith Williams yesterday who was

601
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: also still out there with the he was he was

602
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: still out there, so we're keeping an eye on that.

603
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: But all right, so congratulations to Rondel Moore. So we've

604
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: got Grady Jared at one, ronde Moore at one. Those

605
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: are the two Camp Champ winners. So far, so that

606
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: is going to do it for us Today. A reminder everybody, Saturday,

607
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: second year of high school, the Falcons will be out there.

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Speaker 1: Fans can come five thirty. I believe the gates open,

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Speaker 1: Get out there, be loud. It's it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a really, really fun time. It's going to be exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And also, if you are at second your high

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Speaker 3: walking around, please say hello. I love talking to you guys,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely would yell Tory's name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just scream my name and I will literally I

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Speaker 3: may just like be myself or like her Vitoria.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, she'll be easy to spotch I'll have the

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Speaker 1: notebook that and stunner. But yeah, no, definitely that's the

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Speaker 1: part that we miss without the fans here, so yeah,

638
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: let us know. But again, thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for listening to the Falcons final whistle, which is presented

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Speaker 1: by Zaxby's Tory mclaney. I'm gonna span, I'm Will McFadden.

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