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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling raivalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Revelry.

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Speaker 3: That's good, Ollie.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to really relate to this

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Speaker 1: woman because he grew up with eight brothers, yes, and

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Speaker 1: I grew up with three. I mean a little bit different,

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Speaker 1: but I know what it's like to be the only

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Speaker 1: girl with a bunch of boys.

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Speaker 3: And in show business.

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Speaker 2: Marie Osmond, Yes, what is their famous song?

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Speaker 1: It takes two, It takes to it to make a

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Speaker 1: think of that right now. Their life is so fascinating

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Speaker 1: and when you think about them being child performers Vegas

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Speaker 1: teenage years for her, I mean, her story is why

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Speaker 1: not of.

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Speaker 2: The people, the iconic celebrities that they probably were hanging.

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Speaker 3: Out out, We're going to talk about all of those things.

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Speaker 3: But yes, and also growing up in the public eye

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Speaker 3: and that during that.

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Speaker 1: Time, and I just I and.

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Speaker 3: She does so much.

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Speaker 1: She's you know, she has eight kids of her own.

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Speaker 1: She does a million different things. She's quite the Renaissance woman.

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Speaker 3: She looks fabulous.

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Speaker 1: So I'm also happy to get her alone and not

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Speaker 1: with the brothers because because it's a different perspective when

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Speaker 1: you have you know, And then maybe next time we'll

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Speaker 1: do don Well, we'll do a couple of the bros

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Speaker 1: or something. Hello.

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Speaker 3: Uh, oh, you're so nice. I think this is so

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Speaker 3: cool that you both are doing this.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks, we love it.

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Speaker 3: I love you both. I think you're both so talented.

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Speaker 3: And I just I have watched your family forever. My

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Speaker 3: my brothers used to hang out with Kurt your yeah,

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Speaker 3: blame your paw. Is that what you call?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was.

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Speaker 3: A little girl and had the biggest crush on him

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Speaker 3: when he'd come over and play Monopoly and all these

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Speaker 3: games with my brothers. But they did that, They did Disney.

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Speaker 3: What did they do? It was called The Travels of

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Speaker 3: Jamie mcfeeder's.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, well, I've been around for six decades, so I'm

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Speaker 3: like an oldie, so I have lots of you know,

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Speaker 3: you run into people's.

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Speaker 1: We think we're a big family, but holy fuck, I

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Speaker 1: mean and you have eight I mean, the only girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of fun to have you without one

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Speaker 1: of your brothers.

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Speaker 2: That is actually because we.

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Speaker 1: Can really delve into what that. I mean, I'm one

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Speaker 1: of three brothers.

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Speaker 2: Donnie's an asshole anyway, he didn't show up, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Donnie didn't show up because he cares.

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Speaker 3: What did you say? He has no soul? I agree

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Speaker 3: with you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? But eight brothers, I mean I thought

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Speaker 1: it was I always say.

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Speaker 3: What's crazy? All the same parents? Yeah? Yeah, there were

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Speaker 3: nine kids in our family.

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Speaker 1: Wow, but it is different.

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Speaker 3: At being the only girl.

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Speaker 1: A girl who grew up with only brothers and no

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Speaker 1: sisters is a very specific female. Yes, and I can

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Speaker 1: usually pick them right out of it. I could talk

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Speaker 1: to them for twenty minutes and be like, you only

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Speaker 1: have brothers, yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Ones that are like chewing tobacco, spitting on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Whis is that me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I've only I only dipped for like five seconds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I called. But you have all brothers, right, all brothers,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that I grew up with. I mean, I have sisters.

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Speaker 1: But right, we're just now starting to connect.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but I still and but there's something about

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Speaker 3: our girlfriends that are very important. And I call us

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Speaker 3: guy chicks, you know, lots of women can be very

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Speaker 3: high maintenance and moody, and I'm just not. I'm just

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Speaker 3: kind of like a guy. You just kind of happens

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Speaker 3: and you get over it and uh and you we're

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Speaker 3: we are a little bit different. You know.

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Speaker 1: When you grew up with a bunch of boys, it's

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Speaker 1: like you have to get on with things really fast,

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Speaker 1: really fast. And then only until I got older, I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, I really need girlfriends and I need

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Speaker 1: to like actually nurture this side of me that I

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Speaker 1: haven't been able to nurture as much with my male siblings.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: But I think we understand men pretty well. I mean

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Speaker 3: I I can I understand men pretty well. I've always

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Speaker 3: I've always gotten along with guys. Yeah. Thing is I

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Speaker 3: understand you are Oliver, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I understand women. I understand women extremely well. I am

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Speaker 2: very I have a strong feminine side. I think it's

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Speaker 2: I do ask.

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Speaker 1: Aaron you are talking.

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Speaker 2: I know women. I'm sensitive, I'm extremely over emotional, I

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Speaker 2: have too much compassion. I can relate to the female

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Speaker 2: experience that I can relate to the female experience.

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Speaker 1: This is not you are creating a because.

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Speaker 2: I had no father for a long time. All I

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Speaker 2: had was Mom. Okay, so she raised me, and then

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Speaker 2: you came in friends and her boyfriends who were you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. I gravitated towards Mom. I understood

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Speaker 2: what it was like to live as a woman, and

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Speaker 2: I took that in. I imprinted that on me. That's

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Speaker 2: why I've been in relationships all my life, the most

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Speaker 2: insane true.

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Speaker 3: But but there is truth in this, because you know,

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Speaker 3: I see a lot of psychology. I have eight children,

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Speaker 3: so you know, I find it fascinating. But but men

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Speaker 3: who are raised predominantly by their mothers, the mother in general.

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Speaker 3: This is a generalized statement that a lot of therapy

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Speaker 3: and people that I know have talked about that when

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Speaker 3: you have a home that's predominantly raised by women, they

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Speaker 3: girl mothers are tough on their daughters and they spoil

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Speaker 3: their sons, and daddies nurture their daughters, and that dads

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Speaker 3: are tough on their sons.

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Speaker 1: And so I, all of us didn't really have a dad.

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Speaker 1: Mom was hard on me. He says. It's making a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. You're you are the therapy session I

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Speaker 2: But I've been in relationships all my life. I've never

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Speaker 2: been a womanizer really no no, no, no, no no, meaning

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Speaker 2: I've I've enjoyed women in my life, but I've never

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Speaker 2: been a player ever been like a bad man to women.

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Speaker 1: Women difference being a player and like a not nice guy.

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Speaker 3: But it's very fascinating because I think we have a

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Speaker 3: men that like to play, you know, sit on the

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Speaker 3: my dad was very you know people, Oh he was

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Speaker 3: so tough. No, it was that generation. And I think

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Speaker 3: because my mother was so loving. I had like the

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Speaker 3: greatest mom in the world. And but if I if

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Speaker 3: I were raised just by my mom, I would just

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Speaker 3: dad that taught me my work ethic. It was my

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Speaker 3: dad that taught me, and my mom taught me to

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Speaker 3: have you know, just show up and you know that

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Speaker 3: that that my career was my job and that this

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Speaker 3: was a life, and that they were separate, and that

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Speaker 3: the jobs will come and go. But who are you

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Speaker 3: as a person, And so you know, I was very blessed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: women tend to make their daughters think that way, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's so important because it's such a young age.

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Speaker 2: You were in the spotlight and it was like, holy shit,

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Speaker 2: I mean I can go off the rails really quickly

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Speaker 3: When did you guys start in the business.

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Speaker 2: I mean she came out of the womb like performing.

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Speaker 3: Right because I was three when I started. But I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: weren't you me?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean our parents. I mean I was always

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Speaker 2: Mom held her back on that. Mom, you're going to

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Speaker 2: and then when you're eighteen you can do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and it was great because she let

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Speaker 2: She signed for like four spots in the talent different names,

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Speaker 2: How you do all of them? Like my name was

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Speaker 3: You guys are definitely siblings.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny, but it's true. But you know your

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Speaker 1: entire family was musical. Were your parents? How well, what

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Speaker 2: How did this happen?

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Speaker 1: How did this all happen?

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Speaker 3: Right? Crazy? So it was not you know, you know

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Speaker 3: was everything to them. They met and that was all

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Speaker 3: so loyal, so dedicated, and they really didn't want us

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Speaker 3: to be in show business. But it just kept happening,

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Speaker 3: you know, like the Disney thing. You know, my brothers,

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Speaker 3: and this group they called the Dapper Dance. They're still there.

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Speaker 3: They're different people, of course, but that's their name. Saw

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Speaker 3: them and said, you boys sing, and they sing. They

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Speaker 3: had this incredible harmony. My brothers had, like crazy I've

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Speaker 3: that's where Andy Williams's father saw them, and then they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's such talented there's such talented musicians.

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Speaker 3: but I watched. I watched, and I really loved what

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00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: I did, and I didn't want to mess it up,

443
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I just wanted to keep

444
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 3: doing what I loved. And you know, I've been so blessed,

445
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: just incredibly blessed. I still am in awe that I'm

446
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: able to, you know, perform and do things I love.

447
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. It's like I can't help

448
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: but reflect on my own experiences. Like I remember being

449
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: younger and really wanting to get into my career, and

450
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: like my friends would go out and party or like

451
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: show up to this certain like oh we got to

452
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: go to this party, or we got to go do

453
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: this and I never wanted to go. I never wanted

454
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: to really be a part of it. I was so

455
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: specific about where because it was so it was so

456
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: important to me to maintain some I mean mystery, I guess,

457
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: or just some self respect, like I didn't want to

458
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: be seen as like a girl or and because I

459
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: cared so much about what I loved to do.

460
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: And I know, hanging, I know, hanging with a lot

461
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: of men not brothers, yes, but a lot of their

462
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: friends and hanging around. I just tung around a lot

463
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: of men. I heard how they would talk, and I

464
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: never wanted to be part of that talk.

465
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. I'm the same. I had the

466
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: same thing where I was like, I never wanted to

467
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: be a notch on somebody's belt.

468
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

469
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: I was very particular about who I would hang out with.

470
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: But and then deep down, like when my friends would be,

471
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, dancing on tables, I was like, oh god,

472
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I'd give anything to be on that table. Like I

473
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: remember going to Vegas one time my girlfriends and they

474
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: were all on like stripper polls, and I was like,

475
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: oh god, I wish I could just whip myself around that.

476
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: And you know, right now, but I did it.

477
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: Bathroom.

478
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: You would have been great that, you know, we would

479
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: have been great at it. But I didn't want that,

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: and and so you know, but but what I so,

481
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: I would go home and I'd read and i'd study,

482
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: and i'd learn, and i'd push. I mean I when

483
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: I worked for Rogers and Hammerstein and I was there,

484
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: you know, I was there girl for a while, and

485
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: I did like king and I a Broadway in a

486
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: bunch of sound of music and all that I couldn't sing,

487
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, the heels are alive in country music. So

488
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: I learned legit soprano. And then the lady who taught

489
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 3: me that and my British accent and everything, she said, honey,

490
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: you can sing opera, and I went shut up, you know.

491
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: And so I spent twenty twenty years learning to sing

492
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: opera before I ever put it out on an album.

493
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: And the one reason I did it is I love

494
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: to push myself, you know what, I ever use it. No,

495
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: I never thought I would be in my show. It's

496
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: so fun. I see paper Roses, which I recorded when

497
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: I was twelve years old. It was my first number

498
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: one record. And then I'll sing Nessum dorma right next

499
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: to it, and it's so fun to see people's eyeballs go,

500
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I thought she just said country music,

501
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: and so it was just really fun to shop, you know,

502
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: just to yeah. And that's what it is, is you

503
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: spend time being diverse, you know, and instead of being

504
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: out That's what I saw as I saw people wasting

505
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: their time, and I didn't want to do it.

506
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: The Dining Marie Show, right, how long did that last?

507
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: Like four years?

508
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Four years?

509
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: But it was but there was no show quite like it.

510
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: It was variety, Like you know, they say, okay, so

511
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: like this week you're gonna tap dance on a giant

512
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: typewriter to emulate the movies from the nineteen forties, and

513
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: then you're going to be you know, an alphabet and

514
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: jump into a bowl of gigantic soup. And you know,

515
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: it was just insane what we did. But I was

516
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: so young that I just went, oh, okay, okay, and

517
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: you did it.

518
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that because you became such a the

519
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: iconic kind of pairing out of all of the siblings,

520
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: you guys really kind of became a much more much

521
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: more known together that that created. Did that create any rifts?

522
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: Risks?

523
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 3: No, and yes, because that's when my brothers kind of

524
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: went into the production end of things and they kind

525
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: of let their music slide. And I'm sure that there

526
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: was a piece of them because they wrote like the

527
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: first concept albums, like there was an album called The

528
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Plan and Crazy Horses, And I've heard people in their

529
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: thirties and forties now they'll go back and say, man,

530
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: they were really good. And it makes my brothers feel

531
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: good because their music was very important to them. But Donnie, See,

532
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 3: so what happened is Donnie started losing his notes and

533
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: so I would go in and sing them on the

534
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: out records, and one of the sexts came in and said,

535
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: my goodness, she can sing. And so that's how I

536
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: went to Nashville and I started having my country hits.

537
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: Donnie separated from the brothers and started having his pop,

538
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: his pop hits, and that's where the thing came. A

539
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: little bit country, a little bit rock and roll came

540
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: from because we both came from different musical styles. And

541
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: also there were no brothers sisters on TV. It was

542
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: a very unique relationship.

543
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: You know, there's not yeah, but you don't want to

544
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: do it talk show. We'd make millions, if not.

545
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: Billions, not about what you made. God, damn it.

546
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: You have a great time.

547
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 3: You had funny siblings. There's not sibling relationships out there.

548
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: It's a very unique relationship.

549
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: It's such a unique it's the best. So it's so

550
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: important too. And let's talk about that. You grew is

551
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: nine siblings and then you just decide to have eight children.

552
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: I really didn't. God had a lot to do with that.

553
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: I really didn't.

554
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeh.

555
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't have children very well. And I remember one

556
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: day one of my I can't remember which ones are adopted,

557
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: but I do have some that are adopted. But she

558
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: came in and she was six years old, and she said,

559
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: I know I God made it so you couldn't have children.

560
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: And I said, but she said babies. And I said why.

561
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: She says, because you read idiots. And she had just

562
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: tend to fight. Oh, my brother, but my children. So

563
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: what's really cool?

564
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: That's deeply funny.

565
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: It's an amazing joke.

566
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah funny. But my kids are so different. I mean,

567
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: I just have I have one of everything. I really do.

568
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: I could not have more diverse children. And I love

569
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: it because they are so in love with each other.

570
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: And they are so protective of each other and they

571
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: are so like if one of them struggles, man, they're

572
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: all there, and it just it's such a It's like

573
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: the greatest thing a mom can have is to know

574
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: that that you leave kids that are good people and

575
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: that respect each other and get back to society. I mean,

576
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: like I said, they're all very unique and they're really different.

577
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: But I've learned so much in being age forty to

578
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: twenty one.

579
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: Okay, And did you take anything from being raised in

580
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: a big family, Like what are the things that you

581
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: feel like you took on? And was like, I loved

582
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: the way my mom and dad did this for us,

583
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: And what are the things that you're like, absolutely not,

584
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: we're breaking that site.

585
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think my parents were perfect. Were they perfect? No?

586
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: But I think they were perfect. I don't know if

587
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: anybody's perfect, but for me, I made a lot of

588
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: mistakes and and I know, being the performer, it's great

589
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: to be busy, but when you bring your kids, your

590
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: kids can't just sit around do nothing while you're working.

591
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: But I it was either that or leave them home,

592
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't leave them home. And I've told my

593
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: children that that there was no option for me. They

594
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: were not going to stay home. I didn't have them

595
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: to have somebody else raise them. And so they they've

596
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: all I've got, like my oldest it is incredibly talented

597
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: conceeing my daughter, you know. But I said, I really

598
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: didn't want them to be in jow business. I would

599
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: rather them have a life, and they wanted a life

600
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: where there they could go home and be with their

601
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: families and their kids and have dinner and those kinds

602
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: of things, because it's not an easy world. I mean,

603
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: I look at you guys, it's not easy to have

604
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: parents that are entertainers. I'm sorry, but I know from

605
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: having children.

606
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: That it's the very it's very challenging.

607
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: It is.

608
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: None of them gravitated towards the business at all. None

609
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 2: of them wanted to be in it.

610
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, my son, but he is a thinker like me,

611
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: And he said, Mom, I don't really think I want

612
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: to worry about my next job before this one's done,

613
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: because you know, you always have to keep working ahead.

614
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: And I mean I'm always like two or three years

615
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: ahead planning things because not everything turns out and you

616
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: want to have something exciting. And he goes, I and

617
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: My son, by the way, is forty. He's going to

618
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: be retired in two years. He's doing great. He's very successful.

619
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: He has four children and he loves being able to

620
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: go home and be with his kids at night, you know.

621
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: And my other daughter has two children. My other daughter

622
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: has three children. So I have nine grandchildren and it's

623
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: the best.

624
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: I do great, And that's so fun. That's the best.

625
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you have nine grandchildren and you're.

626
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm sixty. Yeah, I'm sixty four. I have no problems

627
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: with that.

628
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: That's so great. If nine grand at sixty four is

629
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: like the best, I feel like that's going to be

630
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: me with riders.

631
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Wow. So you were young when you had your first.

632
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: I was twenty three. Yeah, when I had my first. Guys, like,

633
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: you know what it's like the other day, my grandson

634
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: came up to me and he goes, he goes, Grandma,

635
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: I think you're famous. Are you famous? And I said,

636
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: only because I'm your grandma, and he goes, oh, okay,

637
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: well you sing with Nana and my mom and dad

638
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: and my baptist Benada. So that's like him. And then

639
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: my other grandson, who's my oldest, he said, he sent

640
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: me a video I'm going to put on my soci

641
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: he goes Alexa, who's Marie Osma's most famous grandson, and

642
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: it named him and he's like you. They they all

643
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: know me different, you know, as different. But I'm Grandma.

644
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: That's what I want to be. I just want to

645
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: be Grandma.

646
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: Has has God been in your life since the beginning?

647
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: Or yeah?

648
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: He has through your family and all your brothers and right, yeah.

649
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: They're all they're all pretty Yeah, they're all very very

650
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: strong faith, you know. But I think that my to

651
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: been part of my desire to know things young is

652
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: because I'm not the kind of person that would say, oh, yeah,

653
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm a member of this religion because

654
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: my mom and dad are. That's so not me, you know.

655
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: I had to know for myself. So I've studied multiple

656
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: religions and you know, beliefs and things like that. So

657
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: it's but I feel like it's important to have a

658
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: higher source to keep you in check, you know.

659
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: But that's just all of your children are. Do all

660
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: of your children follow the same as religious as the

661
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: family sort of carried out?

662
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: No, I have, Like I said, I have eight of

663
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: the most diverse souls on the planet, and I could

664
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: tell you great stories of how they came to me,

665
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: believe me. And then and then there are times where

666
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: you know, they struggle with attachment disorders and all kinds

667
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: of things, and I've studied psychology and trying to help

668
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: and understand how they feel. And uh, there was a

669
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: period of time where I went to my mom. I

670
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: think that was about nine years old, and I did

671
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: not you know, how your body changes, and I just

672
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: did not look like my brothers at all. And I

673
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: went to my mom and I said, Mom, and I

674
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: adopted and she laughed and walked away. Well, I took

675
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 3: that as I was adopted, and I really I thought,

676
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: for like a year I was adopted. I didn't care

677
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: ask any more questions. And I told my kids that

678
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: are I said, you know, I know how you understand.

679
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: I believe I have an understanding with how you feel.

680
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: So I've never had any weirdness about that with them.

681
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: If they you know, if they want to meet their

682
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: biological I wait till they're eighteen so they're emotionally can

683
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: handle it, because it's not always good, you know. But

684
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: I've said to them, I said, you know, if you

685
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: have issues with me being your mom, get over it

686
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: because you chose me, and they you know I'm mom.

687
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: They they love me, And I just couldn't love my kids,

688
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: all of them. They're all my They're just I don't

689
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: divide them up. They're just amazing children. So my story

690
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: is not always happy. But you know, people get involved

691
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: in relationships. Broke up my first marriage, I remarried, not

692
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: a great marriage twenty years. Finally, you know, you know

693
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: it's yeah, you know it's good to leave. Uh well,

694
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: I didn't want to have my children have another divorce.

695
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. I didn't want You understand,

696
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: as a parent, you don't want that for your child.

697
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: But when your children come to you and say please leave,

698
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes I will. And I swore i'd never

699
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: get married again. I swore and because and I was

700
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: the only financial supporter of my children, so you know,

701
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: I had to work. And anyway, I went to Vegas

702
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: because of my oldest ran into my first husband and

703
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: we remarried.

704
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't.

705
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you remarried your first husband.

706
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: And love of my life, best step Well, yeah, I'll

707
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: never marry, but that's okay.

708
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to get too personal,

709
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: but like you broke up why the first time?

710
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: A lot there were a lot of reasons, and it's

711
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not a nice business. You know. I'm not a person.

712
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm not that I could write the most interesting book

713
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: on the planet about the people I've worked with and

714
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: everything else. I never will because I don't believe in that.

715
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: And I know you could.

716
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sometimes like if I have I actually wrote

717
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: a book about how from from day one, I mean,

718
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, or I'd say, let's say my first memories.

719
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the way.

720
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine what that must be like

721
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: for you.

722
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh God, but you got that too.

723
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: You have that. You know, you're still so young. I mean,

724
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: you have years and years and years to collect, collect even.

725
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: More, even more stories. It's like if I was I'm

726
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: with you, though I don't believe in this. I don't know.

727
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's also because I just really believe in putting

728
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: positive things out in the world. I agree with you

729
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: and like pushing those things. And I also feel that,

730
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, there are circumstances that do happen to you.

731
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things that I could share

732
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: that I am no victim too that I had that

733
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I found myself in those circumstances as well.

734
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: So many stories, and it's like people nowadays are so

735
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: craving to find fault, and I just think that's a

736
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: sad scenario for our society because I think the most, hey,

737
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: we can find bad about anybody, if you want to

738
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: dig deep enough, you can always But why, what is

739
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: the point? And what a waste of life and what

740
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: a waste of trying to time is a waste of

741
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: our life.

742
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: I've been over the last twenty years like just stealing

743
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 2: really personal items from my family and really like really

744
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: compromising pick sures and ships that I can sell for

745
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: a lot of money. Things go wrong, safe filled with things.

746
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: He's just projecting because he knows we actually have those

747
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: of him, but.

748
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: They're not going to sell because I put them out

749
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: there for free.

750
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm doing this thing. It's like an

751
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: advertising thing. I won't I won't name who I'm doing

752
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: it with, but I put this this thing together and

753
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: in it, Oliver sort of walked away naked. He loves

754
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: to be naked. It's very funny. And it was so

755
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: funny in this advertisement, and and they came back there like, look,

756
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: we we love your brother, but you gotta take out, Yeah, Oliver,

757
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: if he just always gets cut.

758
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Out, that's ridiculous. So now it's just the first part.

759
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. I guess that there are people in

760
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: this in the world who've had these amazing lines, who

761
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: experience and seem so much like talking to you right now.

762
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: I just I kind of want to go back into

763
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: the story of the girl in Vegas who was Elvis

764
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: was calling her dad and you know, Sammy Davis was teacher,

765
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just how old were

766
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: you then?

767
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: I was a teenager.

768
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: Imagining a teenager in Vegas that in that era and

769
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: being it like the you know, you.

770
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: Know you you saw the movie on Elvis, right, the

771
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: one and Tom Hanks was, Yeah, it was actually quite accurate.

772
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: Not so much the Colonel, but that was a very

773
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: accurate betrayal because she he would call my mom because

774
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: we played the same hotel when he wasn't there, and

775
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: that she would call him in that room. He would

776
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: sit up there that we stayed in that suite as well,

777
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: and it was so dark and lonely, and everything was

778
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: there that you need except maybe real people and that

779
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: was kind of that era. And one of the things

780
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 3: I think that was very changing from him was that

781
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: he said, do not let management do to you speaking

782
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: to us as kids and entertainers do to you. What

783
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: the Colonel did to me, and that was isolate myself

784
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: from your fans. And I think because of that, I

785
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: go out of my way. Like when we were in

786
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: Vegas for eleven years performing, Donnie likes to go fast

787
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: and go home right me sometimes I would stay for

788
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: hours and I would always just say, I believe in

789
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: female intuition and I believe every woman has it. My

790
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: mother was like creepy with it and now and then

791
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 3: my children say that I'm creepy with it. Like they'd

792
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: be ready to do something bad at a party and

793
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: I go, Hi, how are you doing? What are you doing?

794
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: And they'd be like, Mom, we hate you and so

795
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 3: but you knew. I did. I knew, just like my mom.

796
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: But she told me, we have It's It's like anything,

797
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: if you listen, the more you listen, the more you'll

798
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: feel these feelings and follow them. And so that that's

799
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: one of those things that I watched and I learned

800
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: from my mother and how and there were times, you

801
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: know that should be talking to him and I kind

802
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: of walk by the door and should just shut it.

803
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what my mom said, my mom said, people

804
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: say women's I have the women's women's intuition, and my mom,

805
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I think, said I have beyond women's right. I know

806
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: to b w I that's beyond women's intuition. It's like,

807
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: that's more than you know.

808
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: But it's a gift that we have, and it is

809
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: so real and the more you listen to it, the

810
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: more it'll astound you.

811
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: So you sit with your fans and for hours.

812
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: Hours, And there was this one time I was so sick.

813
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: I've been through some health things and I would like

814
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: vomit every show and finally I just you know, they

815
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: had to get to the source of it. But I

816
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: was so sick this one and I remember it was like, no,

817
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: you're going down to the meet and greet, And I

818
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: went down. I knew it was going to be at

819
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: least an hour and a half to three hours, and

820
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: it was really interesting, and not that there weren't lovely people.

821
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: There were, but there was nothing like life changing until

822
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: next to the last person after three hours, and she

823
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: threw her arms around me, and said, I lost my

824
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: son six days ago from suicide. I lost a child

825
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: from suicide. And she said, I didn't see your show.

826
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: I flew in just for the meet and greet, and

827
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: I have to fly right back because I have to

828
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: go back to work. But I just nobody understands, and

829
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: I know you do. If I had not gone, that

830
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: whole trip would have been in vain for her. So

831
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: I sat and talked with her for a couple of

832
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: hours after we were up to two.

833
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: But that's that intuition you say that you know, I

834
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: unfortunately have a very good friend who'd also lost jus

835
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: recently child to suicide. And what is sort of the

836
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I know this is maybe it feels like a silly question,

837
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: but as someone who's you know, supporting us my girlfriend

838
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: right now, what do you think is the first thing

839
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: that when you're going through that grieving process is important

840
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: to tell someone that you know and love that's going

841
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: through it, Like what was the what was the best

842
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: support system you had, and how did that what did

843
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: that look like during that time? Like if someone could

844
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: have given you some insight.

845
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: Well, I think so. One of the things that happened

846
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: to me is I guess that the hotel told people

847
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: not to say anything to me. Well after, so I

848
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: got a lot of heat from people because I went

849
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: back to work two weeks later, and you know, people

850
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: just love to criticize. And I'm like, you don't understand.

851
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: I have seven more children that need to keep living

852
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: and because they were the siblings would devastated by it,

853
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: let alone with the parent. But so I went back

854
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: to work and it was so blooe heard. I can't

855
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: even tell you. It was just awful. And so I

856
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: I was in this meet and greet and this woman

857
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: came up to me and I guess that he had

858
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: been gone about three almost a month, and she goes,

859
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: I know, we're not supposed to say anything to you,

860
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: but I lost my son and I said, who told

861
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: you you could? And that's when I found out And

862
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: I said to her, I said, so does it ever

863
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: get easier? And she said no, and I said, okay,

864
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: I can live with that. That's she says, But over

865
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: time God will give you longer respites and things will

866
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: happen that will bring you peace. But initially it is

867
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 3: just the most awful. You just want to go back

868
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: to sleep and wake up from a bad dream. But

869
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 3: one of the greatest things that I was told by

870
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: a sibling who sibling was to give all of my

871
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: children and I got myself one too, and write to

872
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: them and write things you remember and right if you're angry,

873
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: and right, if you're sad, and right if and then

874
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: write everything you can because you'll forget. And they're wonderful

875
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: journals to look back on, you know, just to and

876
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: you can get out things on paper that you can't say.

877
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes as as the person who has lost so I

878
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: would get them a journal and just say, if you're hurting,

879
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: must talk. It's you know, it's okay, it's Is it

880
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: ever going to get better? You're never You're never going

881
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: to get over it, but there will be respites, you know.

882
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: I've noticed my friend saying to me that, like when

883
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: she thinks that, I think a lot of people think

884
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: when someone's going through that, like I don't know what

885
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: to say. Should I call them, do I connect with them?

886
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: What do I say? And then you know, that becomes

887
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: this thing that they say, which is like I don't

888
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: know what to say, I have no words.

889
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: And you don't have to say anything, you just be there.

890
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: And I think that that was what you know, she

891
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: said to me, Which is the support and just people

892
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: even just saying, you know, I love you so much

893
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: and I'm here and I love you, And that's really.

894
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the most powerful, is that people are

895
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: afraid to talk to you and and just to say

896
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of this. This must be the worst.

897
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the worst ever.

898
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: And that mean and not having that support is so meaningful.

899
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: And I can see it in my friend right now.

900
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: I think the loss of anybody that we love is horrible.

901
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when I lost my mom. My

902
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 3: brothers were just worthless, and so I had to do everything,

903
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: and so I never really got to grieve, and I

904
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: was taking care of my children and everything else. Well,

905
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: it hit me a year she passed away on Mother's

906
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: Day and it was a year to that date. I

907
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: was driving up the canyon. I was in Utah, and

908
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: I just start sobbing, and I think that's what I do,

909
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: is I get in the car and I just drive.

910
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of my way to deal with things.

911
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I felt her. I swear

912
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: to you, guys, I felt her. Saint Marie turn the

913
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: car around and go to Nordstrom. And I was like,

914
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I am massively dysfunctional. And so so

915
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: I went up the canyon a little further. It was like,

916
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: turn this car around and go to Nordstrom. And I

917
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: was like fine, and so I turned the car and

918
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: I went down to the mall, walked into Northstroum and like, okay,

919
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: now what but this is this intuitive thing, you know,

920
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: and it was like go up the escalator, and I

921
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: felt prompted, long story short, felt prompted to go into

922
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: this this women's department that I would never shop in.

923
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: And I turned around and there was a skirt there

924
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: with hundreds of little butterflies. Well that was symbolic, and

925
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: my mother always talked about butterflies meaning the angels are

926
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 3: with you. And I realized that when I was going

927
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: through really difficult things as a young girl, my mom

928
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: would take me shopping. We wouldn't necessarily buy anything, but

929
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: we would shop and always get ice cream after. And

930
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: so I realized that my mom intuitively, spiritually was taking

931
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: me shopping. So I bought the skirt and I took

932
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: the skirt out for ice cream, and it was so

933
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: lovely and if you look for those things in grief,

934
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: you'll find them, you really will, those little, tiny, little

935
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: tender mercies.

936
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good advice.

937
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's do we tak usually like a little rapid fire. Okay, coffee,

938
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: your tea.

939
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't drink either.

940
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: Whoa, no caffeine?

941
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: No, well no, I do. I take caffeine, but I

942
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: take if I take it, So I have one. My

943
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 3: friend is one of the top brain surgeons in the world,

944
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: and he said, if you can, if you need the caffeine,

945
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: just do the pill half of a pill, because you

946
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 3: don't need all the other chemicals and all the other

947
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: things it does to your stomach. So like tea is

948
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: like tannic acid, and it makes it so you don't

949
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: absorb nutrients. And coffee is terrible for your terrible for

950
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: your stomach, but it's very good for a colonic.

951
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah coffee. Wait a minute, what do you have advice?

952
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Any vice? Yeah? It is literally.

953
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: All right?

954
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: Do you have any vice at all? Like mine is

955
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: drinking smoking? We make and we can go on.

956
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: Do you have advice? I? I like, I have just

957
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: had to be very careful with my health and so

958
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm pretty but I do like ice. Cream. I mean,

959
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 3: if I could eat ice cream every day, I would

960
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: eat it ice.

961
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: So like it's a guilty thing ice cream. No, No,

962
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: well it is. It is if it's something anything is

963
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: not good for you that makes you feel good.

964
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: Right, Who was your first rush, real crush in real.

965
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: Life and then celebrity after that? I want to know

966
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: who you especially growing up with? Who my uncle bred

967
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: uncle Brett.

968
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: Well, he was one of my young crushes. Yeah, Andy Gibb.

969
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: We he was. We were close. Yeah.

970
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 2: And he was hot.

971
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He was amazing. Collvision loved him. He

972
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: we were, we were very close.

973
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's more to that story, but.

974
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: A lot of tells she wiped her, a lot of tells.

975
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you could sort of is really going

976
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: to be hard, But if you could just describe your

977
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: sibling group in one word or two words, what would

978
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: that be? First thing?

979
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: You mean my brothers? Yeah, they are interlinked.

980
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a hyphen in there. Yeah, doesn't count.

981
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: They grew up together and they'll all die together. Do

982
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? They're just cur.

983
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: I love that. That's amazing. I mean you typically you

984
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: would think, oh, no, this person hates this person. These

985
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: two are more.

986
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: They have a family group text and they just they

987
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 3: all they love each other.

988
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: That's so great.

989
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Who responds the least in the family group text?

990
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 3: Donnie?

991
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: And who is like always sending things on the family group?

992
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who's like you gotta stay Alan?

993
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 3: And Merrill?

994
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: Who's the funniest Wayne?

995
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: Who is the one that you would go to if

996
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: you were Who would be your first phone call if

997
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: you were in jail?

998
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: I would say in jail, I would say Wayne? Well,

999
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: Wayne would know what to do. Meryl, okay much?

1000
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: Brother is most likely to be naked?

1001
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Don't you think all men like to be naked?

1002
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: True? What is that? It's not even like penises aren't

1003
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: even that attractive.

1004
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: I just go backside, you.

1005
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1006
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Like they don't care.

1007
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I don't go full frontal.

1008
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: Give you a couple more years.

1009
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I can't do that yet.

1010
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So if you could have any superpower, what

1011
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: would oh?

1012
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: I want to know that for you and you superpower?

1013
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I mean I fly.

1014
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1015
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: This change is like daily for me I.

1016
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: Had because incredible it would change for me constantly to

1017
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: what well, I'm kind of so this year, because you're

1018
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: under contract, you can't break an army case, so you're

1019
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: always like being careful this year, I said, and actually

1020
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: started last year, but I am terrified of heights. So

1021
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: I jumped out of an airplane. I climbed Mount Sinai,

1022
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, I've just been doing all these fun, insane things.

1023
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: I climbed pyramids, I went to Iceland. I mean, I

1024
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: just didn't. So the superpower is just not to be

1025
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: afraid of any I'm just.

1026
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Your mine is to be to be truly fearless.

1027
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: Like that's really That's what I would say, is just

1028
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: to just go for it. And I'm going to Easu

1029
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 3: Falls next and just I just want to have fun.

1030
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, I breathed my children.

1031
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: You've done so many things. Sucks. I haven't done anything.

1032
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: That's not true.

1033
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's incredible the things that you've done and

1034
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: on and seeing and this desire it is, but it's

1035
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: a desire for you to conquer fears and you know,

1036
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: constantly moving forward.

1037
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: See, this is why we should never compare ourselves, because

1038
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: you forget, I'm sixty four and I've had a lifetime

1039
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: of trying things, and so it just it just accumulates,

1040
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: so by the time you're sixty four, you just keep

1041
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: doing things and learning things. I mean, I never thought

1042
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: i'd have my ports I have a crazy portfolio, do

1043
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: you know? And you never think of that when you're

1044
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: twenty or thirty or forty, You just do, you know, So.

1045
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Don't any times coming like late sixties, seventies, it's all

1046
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: going to congeal.

1047
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: Okay, So then let's do the last question, which I'm

1048
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: just coming up with off the top of my liafe

1049
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: because of you're what you're saying, which is you're doing

1050
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: all these things, but what is it that you are

1051
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: most looking forward to doing this year? Is what is

1052
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: the number one thing?

1053
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that the kids are all out of the

1054
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: house and they're all doing great, and they're all financially

1055
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: good on their own, I just want to be with

1056
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: my husband.

1057
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: But you've been with them for so long, not not enough.

1058
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: Just the two of us, we really like each other.

1059
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, would you say he's your best friend?

1060
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: Yes? But you know, here, here's probably the reason why

1061
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 3: seventeen of my friends from age fifty five to sixty

1062
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: five just lost their spouses crazy weird ways, like within

1063
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: a day.

1064
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: Did you say, seventeen seventeen.

1065
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Of my friends what and when you and they were

1066
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: just at that age where their kids were moving out

1067
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: and they were going to start living their lives. And

1068
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: I went, no, I'm going to start living my life.

1069
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: Why we're healthy and why we can have fun together nice.

1070
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: That's so many people.

1071
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: Because he's the love of my life, and he's the reason.

1072
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to go through life alone.

1073
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: I want someone to document and to be a pardon

1074
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: to know me. He knows me. He loves me for me,

1075
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: not for who I am. And I know he's proud

1076
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: of the things I've done, but that's not why we

1077
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: love each other. You know, he's waving goodbye to me.

1078
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, goodbye, I'm going on my motorcycle.

1079
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: I'll see in a minute.

1080
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: One more question than we're done. Are you ever going

1081
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: to retire?

1082
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: I I don't know that I could. I don't feel

1083
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: like I need to prove anything. Like I guess I

1084
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: can choose what I want to do. But I might

1085
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: be that old lady on Broadway that does the funny role.

1086
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I love humor and I'm

1087
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: a weird animal. You know, people like me don't exist

1088
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: much anymore, So I don't know, you know, I mean

1089
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: I was Betty White was like a second mom to me,

1090
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: and Clorus Leechman and all these people. So you know,

1091
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: I love I love older women that and I can sing,

1092
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Speaker 3: and I can dance, I can do whatever. So you know,

1093
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Speaker 3: maybe Broadway, roll down the maybe a part in a

1094
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Speaker 3: film or something. I don't know, but I don't know.

1095
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Speaker 3: I never say never. Yeah, honestly, I was with you

1096
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Speaker 3: so forward to this because you have a perspective that

1097
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Speaker 3: a lot of siblings don't have, with your parents and

1098
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Speaker 3: and everything that you've been through and being in the business.

1099
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Speaker 3: And like I said, there's there's not very many people

1100
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Speaker 3: that you can go I get you. I understand I

1101
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Speaker 3: you know, I get you from this point of view.

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Speaker 3: And so this has been like one of the most

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Speaker 3: fun interviews I've done.

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Speaker 2: Have so much.

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Speaker 3: What I have a Harley, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Don't you do? My gosh. All right, I have a.

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Speaker 3: Rest of your day.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll see you down the road.

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Speaker 3: And absolutely all right, all right you guys, thank you

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Speaker 3: and congratulations on your podcast. It's really fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye ah