1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Markets Podcast. I'm Paul Sweeney alongside 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: my co host Matt Miller. Every business day we bring 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: you interviews from CEOs, market pros, and Bloomberg experts, along 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: with essential market moving news. Find the Bloomberg Markets podcast 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: called Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts, and 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com slash podcast. All right, Montlet's bring 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: our next guest, Rebecca Felton, senior and market strategist for 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Riverfront Investment Group and her claim to fame. She is 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: a fellow Spider Matt from the University of Richmond, my 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: alma mater, so we can't go wrong there, and Rebecca, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here. Um boy, the 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: wall of worry out there for an equity investor is 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: pretty darn high, and now you add to it over 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of months geopolitical risk. How are you 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: guys thinking about the market right here? Well, good morning 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: to you both, and thank you for having me. Um. 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, we're we're cautious somewhat just because of all 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: of the headwinds that we face in terms of headlines, 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: but we have recently actually put some money back to 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: work and we're still a little bit overweight equities because 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: we think the fundamentals are so strong. What are some 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: of the sectors that you think folks should have some 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: exposure to hear? If you, in fact in strates are rising, 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: growth is slowing, how do you think about that? Well, 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: we are sticking on the growth category with our technology overweight, 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: specifically software and services, because you do have consistency of 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: earnings and revenue growth there, and even if you've got 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: to higher multiples, we're willing to pay up for it. Um. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: We've also added back to our energy exposure, so we're 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: trying to sort of barbel that growth with some sicklicality. 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: So we have gone a little overweight energy. And we've 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: also gone overweight financials in our longer horizon portfolios because 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: you do have the play into higher net interest margins 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: and you've also got better loan growth, so we're sticking 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: with some large cat banks there too. Are you worried 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: about a recession? We had a survey from our end 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Live blog and about half of the people we survey 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: to expect a recession in three Well, it is. It 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: is a great question, and you know, one of the 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: things that We always say our mantras process over prediction, 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: so we don't think we have a better crystal ball 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: than anyone else, and arguably that the worries are growing 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: every day as to whether or not we cannot navigate 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: a soft landing and avoid a recession. UM. So uh, 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: we would agree that that the probabilities are are rising, 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: but we are still not saying that we expect to 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: have one next year. Rebecca, We're going to really start 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: kicking off big time earning season next week. What do 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: you think is critical for this market? How are you 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: thinking about this earning season? Well, I guess the good 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: news is there's a lot of companies have already guided lower. 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Right when you look at the number of companies UM 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: that have pre announced, the majority of those pre announcements 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: have been lower guidance. So we believe the bar is 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: set low. Growth for the quarter is expected to come 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: in at a low single digit level, so it should 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: be a quarter where the surprises maybe to the upside, 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and we're optimistic about that in terms of actual earnings growth, 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: But of course we expect there to be more caution 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: around wage pressures, supply chain disruptions and that sort of thing. 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: So the key will be to watch margins. So far 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: they have held in above average up around twelve, so 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: we're hopeful that the companies will still have pricing power 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: and be able to deliver on those margins, which is 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: going to be key to keeping multiples up here at 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: these levels. But you think we're going to continue to 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: see supply chain problems, continue to see chip shortage, continue 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: to see commodity inflation. Do you stay away from companies 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: that are hit by that? Well, I mean we are, 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: We're seeing some signs of easing, but of course the 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: situation in in in Ukraine Russia that has that has 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: caused some aggravation in those supply chains again. Uh so 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: again we've increased our our level of cyclicality in terms 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: of energy. Also, we've got an avoid an industrial specifically 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: infrastructure place, so some of those areas are going to 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: maybe be um impacted by these types of things. But 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: we're going to take away and see attitude before we 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: start adjusting positions dramatically versus where we are. Rebecca, how 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: do you and your firm, Riverfront Investment Group, how do 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: you think about E s G investing? Does that factor 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: into your analysis at all? It seems to be gaining 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum with a lot of different types 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: of investors. Well, absolutely, it's gaining traction that when you 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: think about how what we do, you know, we we 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: are products are global as allocation products. So anytime we 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: want to think about thematic investing, it has to be 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: against the backdrop of that global allocation theme. But then 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: you also have to remember that E s G means 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: something different to every investor, so it's really hard, I think, 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: for us to to go down that path in a 91 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: global diversified strategy, So we're sticking with sort of true 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: sector plays and that sort of thing, rather than really 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: playing in what would be called traditionally an E s 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: G world. At what point do you, um, how, how 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: how or when do you expect inflation to come back down? Well, 96 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: obviously that's what job number one for the FED right now. 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: They're going to do whatever they have what is the wordings, 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: will do whatever it takes um but it's probably still 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: not going to be until the back half of this 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: year or maybe even into three given the pressures that 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: we've already discussed in terms of supply chain disruptions, higher 102 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: uh net energy costs for folks um and those sorts 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: of things, and also the wage pressures. Right, the wages 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: are going higher, so it's probably going to be maybe 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: we'll still be talking about inflation this time next year, 106 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: but I think that ultimately the FED will succeed. We 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: may not like the ride, but they will be successful 108 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: in terms of accomplishing that mission. These of you the 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: policy changes that they're going to make. Hey, Rebecca, thank 110 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We always appreciate getting 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: your thoughts. Rebecca Felton, Senior market strategist, Riverfront Investment Group. 112 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: They are located in lovely Richmond, Virginia. Let's check in 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: with Seth Carpenter, chief Global economists from Morgan Stanley. All Right, Seth, 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: d dollars for a trucker. That sounds inflationary to me. 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: How do you think about inflation in this marketplace? When 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: you hear news that again Walmarts can pay their truckers 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: up the hundred ten thousand dollars. Absolutely, that does sound inflationary. UM. 118 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: I have to say, though, the trucker shortage is a 119 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: long standing trend. In fact, the pre dates COVID, and 120 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: the fact that now they're realizing that one way to 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: get people to work for you is to pay them 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Is not overly surprising. But I 123 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: think more broadly, you're right. I mean, there there is 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: a tight labor market. I think there are no two 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: ways about it. There continues to be very strong aggregate 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: demand and at the end of the day, something's got 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: to give. And we have, of course seen not only 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: strong wages, but we've also seen, as everyone knows, a 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: lot of inflation. I have to say also, and then 130 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: we'll get off the trucker thing. It is a difficult job. 131 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: It is an important job, and it is not a 132 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: job that you want to just give to anyone, right 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: because it's dangerous, a big rig in the hands of, 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, someone who doesn't know how to control it. 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: So I'm glad they're finally getting paid more. They deserve it, 136 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: they earn it, and they should. Um all right, let's 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: get onto the broader economy because um we did a survey. 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Paula just sent you the story. The umly blog did 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a survey set and half of the respondents said they 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: expect a recession. Ine Now, considering what we heard from 141 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Lyle Brainerd and everybody else at the FED, UM it 142 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: makes more and more sense. Buller just told us he 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: thinks they need to raise to three percent, So, um, 144 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, so you know, I'm not 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: going to say that a recession in three is our 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: baseline at all, um, But I think some of the 147 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: complinents that you're talking about their do ray at the risk. 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: So the FED is in a challenging circumstances situation. They're 149 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: trying to in effect land a jet on an aircraft 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: carrier during a storm, and they've only seen one training 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: film before, right, So it's a very very difficult situation 152 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: to be in. Um. And moreover, the amount by which 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be tightening policy, the speed with which 154 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: they're tightening policy, I think is going to be directly 155 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: influenced by how strong they see the economy. And right now, 156 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: look at the last Non Front Perils Report, for example, 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: it's clearly very strong right now. So they're on there, 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: They're they're clearly asked to start going. So then what 159 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: would cause us to have a recession next year and 160 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: not at all our baseline? Cage? But I think I 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: could see a few things happening. First, is the FED 162 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: getting a little bit overly enthusiastic, and they're going to 163 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: start running off their balance sheet. We've got some details 164 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: from that in the Minutes yesterday. But I have to say, 165 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: even after my fifteen years there at the FED spending 166 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking about the FED balance sheet, 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: if anybody tells you they know for sure exactly how 168 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: that un of the balance she is going to affect 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: markets in the economy, I think they're either lying to 170 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: you or they're lying to themselves. So there's some possibility 171 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: of of a policy you know, hiccup there. I think 172 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: on top of that, as they start hiking, especially if 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: they front load the hiking, if Heaven forbid, things get 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: worse with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and we have 175 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: what we've detailed as the cut off scenario where all 176 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: energy stops flowing to Europe for example, you could see 177 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Europe slip into recession. That's got to spill over to 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the US. And if the set is already front loaded 179 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the hikes and let the unwinded the 180 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: balance sheet go with some unintended consequences. I think that's 181 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: the sort of constellation of the events that that gets 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you a recession in early how material is that risk 183 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: to you seth and that energy risk for Europe leading 184 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: to a recession. UM. Right now, the oil still flowing, 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: the dollars and euros are still going into Russia, but 186 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: boys are growing call to kind of tone that down 187 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: or limit that it doesn't seem more really tenable. YEA, 188 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: So I completely agree. I mean, I'm not a political scientist, 189 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: and I cannot forecast where this conflict is going. But 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: but I absolutely subscribe to the way you're reading things, 191 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: which is things are worse now than they were two 192 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago. I think the calls for starting 193 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: to cut off with oil with a coal rather so 194 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: it shows you that when maybe we're on that path 195 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: in that direction, the discussions about dollars versus rubles and 196 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: which accounts are frozen, I think adds to the to 197 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: the tension. So I think it's got to be a 198 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: scenario that we take very very seriously. How about this, UM, 199 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: where's your our start right now? I'd rather start off 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: with how big the aeror bands are around that our star. 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the FED has there's the nominal terms at 202 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: about two and a half. I guess I would very 203 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: slightly take the under on that but boy, the ability 204 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: to be certain about where that is is very hard 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: to come by. And I'll just highlight one thing. I mean, 206 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: in one version of the world, the FED having a 207 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: really big balance sheet, all else equal, just makes financial 208 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: conditions easier, which means our star has got to be 209 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: higher to get the same amount of neutrality. On the 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: other hand, the act of shrinking the balance sheet pushes 211 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: spreads wider and tightens financial conditions. And so as you're 212 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: shrinking the balance sheet, maybe that says our star is 213 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: a little bit lower. Um. I think anybody would be 214 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: an idiot to try to say that they know for 215 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: sure where it is and and and drive with that knowledge. Instead, 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: where I suspect Powell and company are going is they're 217 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: going to be driving by feel a little bit sort 218 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: of like what we saw in Alright, thanks so much 219 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: for joining us. Seth Carpenter, chief Global Economists from Warring Stanley. 220 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's hep mobile banking. You know, Matt, I 221 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: am a whiz now at mobile banking. I deposit checks, 222 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: transfer money, wire transfers. I do it all, uh, and 223 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good about that. And that's all learned 224 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: in the last two years let check of a lovely 225 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: in situ chair CEO and founder of BM Technologies help 226 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: banks and folks, you know, kind of get into the 227 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: digital game on the banking side. Lovely, thanks so much 228 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: for joining us here. Am I representative of the average 229 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: person out there? I E I've gotten a lot more 230 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: tech savvys relates to my banking So absolutely, thank you 231 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: so much for having me. And just to begin a 232 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: little bit about b M Technologies, just as a reminder, 233 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: we are one of the largest digital banking and banking 234 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: as a service providers in the country today um and 235 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: and really one of the first neo banking fintech to 236 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: go public, to be profitable and now as to actually 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: embrace a bank charter. Um. So to answer your questions, 238 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I think that you know, COVID in that period definitely 239 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: accelerated the use of technology, not just in financial services 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: but really across the board. Um. And then couple that 241 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: with a surgeon deposits from stimulus, it was definitely, you know, 242 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: a good good time for for banks and for consumers 243 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: to start engaging with them in any way. So what 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: does this mean, Lovely and we can do at b 245 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: M Technology do can I use you as a consumer. 246 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: Um or do companies use you to help embed you know, 247 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: banking services in their online presence or do you work 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: with with banks directly? What what is it? Who's your client? Yeah? 249 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: A little bit of all of the above. Um And 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: so we have you know, a unique digital banking platform 251 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: that allows us to directly go to consumers and offer 252 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: them a more compelling banking experience from the products, to 253 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: the features, to more affordable products that but also the 254 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: same digital banking platform that's cloud based, that's a PI enabled. 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: The beauty of it is that we could license that 256 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: to others and we allow and enable large brands to 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: offer financial services as well, and not just from a 258 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: technology standpoint, but you know, as you know, banking is 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: regulated and there's a lot in the back end to 260 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: really operate and support a bank, and all of that 261 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: we also provide as well today and lovely and I 262 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: know you know, the banks of a talking about for 263 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: years the capital investments they're making in their technology platforms. 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Is it lowering the cost is allowing them to increase 265 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: their profit margins if they really make the investment for 266 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: digital You know, we've been saying for years that banks 267 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: continue to invest in in in technology and product enhancements, 268 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and that doesn't always correlate to a better customer experience. 269 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: It's how is it done and is it done well 270 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: with the customer in mind? And so you don't rapidly 271 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: see as as larger banks are investing billions and dollars 272 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: that correlates to more and more happy customers. Um. But 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: that being said, it's a good move forward. I think 274 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: that you know, consumers are demanding more as it relates 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: to crypto in terms of having that being part of 276 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: their financial planning and assuming that banks would have an 277 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to get involved in that. They're demanding 278 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: more of a rebundling of financial services. I shouldn't have 279 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: to go to robin Hood for one thing, so by 280 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: for another thing, but really going under one umbrella at 281 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: one platform to get all of my financial needs um. 282 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: And and lastly, you know, really a push for financial 283 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: inclusion so that I don't just need to go to 284 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: a bank branch to get my my banking done. But really, 285 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: if there's a brand that I truly trust, I value, 286 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: I have an emotional connection with, can I go there 287 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: and get my banking needs met? And that's what we're 288 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: doing with our banking as a service and and b 289 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: M Technology is partnered with T Mobile, for example, to 290 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: launch the T Mobile Checking account. Interesting stuff. Yeah, I'm 291 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm doing it. I feel like I am 292 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: TECHT savvy. Now on my consumer financials gardner? What's that 293 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: during this program? I paid my gardener? There you go, 294 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: look at you. Lovely to do Chair, CEO and founder 295 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: of b M Technologies, New York Stock Exchange list a 296 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: b M t X. It is day one of the 297 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Master's tigers on a second hole. Even par so, we 298 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: thought a good time to talk about the business of golf. 299 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Friendy Pich, CEO of PGA Superstore, He's gonna join us 300 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and talk us about the retail side of the game 301 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: of golf. Plus, Barry Ridholtz joins us because it's Thursday 302 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: and he always talks to us on Thursday, so we'll 303 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: see what his thoughts are on these markets. But first 304 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: let's go to Greig Jarrett's gonna blow our business flash. 305 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Greg Well stocks continue to retreat. Paul investors are digesting 306 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the possibility of even more aggressive monetary tightening by the FED, 307 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: and are monitoring the war in Ukraine. Sp Right now 308 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: is down six tenths and percent down twenty five. That 309 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: DO was down eight tenths of a percent, down two 310 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: hundred sixty seven, and the NaNs acts down eight tenths 311 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: of a percent, down a hundred sixteen. The Tenure is 312 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: down eleven thirty seconds. The yield is two point six 313 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: four percent. West Texas Intermediate Crude continues to descend. It's 314 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: down one point four percent. Seven of barrel Comics gold 315 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: is up six tenths of a percent at nine twenty 316 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: and ounced the dollar five, the euro dollar nine oh won, 317 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: the British pound, the dollar thirty sixty. Harvard plans to 318 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: sell green bonds to finance construction of a new science 319 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: and engineering complex for renovation of an existing dorm. The 320 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: richest U S College is planning to sell eight hundred 321 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: million dollars of taxable bonds three D you know, which 322 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: will be designated as green, according to documents posted to 323 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Muni o S. That is a Bloomberg business flash. Bloomberg 324 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: Markets continues now. Paul Sweeney and Matt Miller. All right, 325 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: great Jered, good stuff there, you know, Matt. When the 326 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: pandemic hit March of Lockdown, one of the few things 327 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you could do is kind of go out on the 328 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: golf course and play golf and rounds of golf at 329 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: my club in New Jersey. Roup almost fifty there in 330 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: just a you know, amazing surgeon. Has to be good 331 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: for the game of golf. Let's talk about the business 332 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: of golf. Randy piche CEO of p g A Tour Superstars, Randy, 333 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here again. Rounds of 334 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: my club, we're up. Is that kind of what we 335 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: saw around the country. Yes, very very much, and thank 336 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: you first of all for having me on the show. 337 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: But you are absolute of the writing in the rounds 338 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: of golf. Um, the industry saw five hundred and twenty 339 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: nine million rounds of golf played last year. Um that's 340 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: nearly a five percent increase from which was also the 341 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: highest ever recorded. Uh So we are at an all 342 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: time high in in rounds played, and as you said, 343 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: at your club, you're seeing that and various clubs around 344 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: the country are seeing a surge like has never been 345 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: seen before in the golf industry. So, uh, it's it's 346 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: it's really fun to to see it. And I know 347 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: that our world is experiencing a lot of pain right 348 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: now between wars and what you just announced in the market, 349 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of bad going on in the world, 350 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: but um, people are are looking for a little bit 351 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: of an escape from time to time. And that's what 352 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: our our business and our our great game provides. So 353 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: it's really fun to to be to be able to 354 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: be a part of that. How important is Tiger's participation? 355 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Extremely important? So so you probably uh remember back in 356 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: in n when he first won the Masters, um and 357 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: the surge that the golf, the game of golf saw 358 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: between nine and two thousand, when Tiger was at his peak, um, 359 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: and prior tow we had never seen a surge like 360 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: that in golf. Um and and this is equal to that. 361 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: And um the human side of the story of Tiger 362 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: that he actually almost lost his life number one, We 363 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: start with that, uh, but he was he was more 364 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: likely to lose that leg than he was to to 365 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: have the leg. So to to see him out here 366 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: even just walking around a golf course, let alone competing 367 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: as I'm watching him hit his third shot into a 368 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: par five year and fakes, but he ties for the 369 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: lead in the Masters. Just to be able to say 370 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that in fourteen months after that horrific accident for Tiger 371 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Woods to be ties for the lead is something that 372 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: um a normal story at the Master's obviously, this is 373 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: the biggest tournament of the year. Um, a normal feel 374 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: good story at the Master's reaches certain news outlets when 375 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: Tiger is in the Masters and contending in a normal year, 376 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: it's a bigger story that my wife, who's just marginally 377 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: interested in golf talks about. It's talked about in places 378 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: and on networks. Uh that it's not talked about in 379 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: other places. But with the accident and the comeback story 380 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: added to that, this has larger than life. And you 381 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: know the fact that we're sitting here watching his second 382 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: hole of a seventy two whole tournament and talking about 383 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: it is is really incredible. And and lots of other 384 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: people are as well. We've gotten text messages the Tigers 385 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: now teeing off and what do you think he's gonna do? 386 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: And it's it's the talk of the golf world. So 387 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun, um and it helps business 388 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: and it helps people be interested in golf, which is uh, 389 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: which is the most important thing. Yeah, it's interesting. Uh, 390 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: you know, we're you're in here a Bloomberg We're all over. 391 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for updates of the Master's Tournament every hour 392 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: throughout the weekend on Bloomberg Radio, and a special edition 393 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: of Masters Tonight coming up at eleven pm Eastern. Randy 394 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: talked to us about supply chain. If I want to 395 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: go buy a new set of clubs or golf shoes, 396 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: are they going to be in the store. Yeah, so 397 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: that's a great question we have. We have struggled like 398 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: like others have initially on the supply chain. But the 399 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: best part about us is we've gotten very, very creative. 400 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Uh So, Number one, we've we've we have great relationships 401 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: with our manufacturers, as you can imagine, but we've done 402 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: things that are a little bit out of the norm. 403 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: So we had a manufacturer but you probably know, by 404 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: the name of titlist Um, and they make wedges called 405 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: Boki wedges, and they were out of grips, and what 406 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: we told titleists, we worked to deal with them. They 407 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: sold They sent us wedges that were ungripped, and we 408 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: told customers that came in, you pick out any grip 409 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: in our store and we'll put it on at no charge. 410 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: And customers were happier we're able to have products, so 411 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: we're doing things that are very unique. UM. And for 412 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the first time since the pandemic started, we are back 413 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: to the inventory levels that are above what our plans are. UM. 414 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: So it's really really good news, UM that that we're 415 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: still we're we're doing better now than we ever have. UM. 416 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that there are no 417 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: lead times out there for certain special orders, but it's 418 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: gotten a lot better. UM. And and as I said, 419 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: we're the leader in the marketplace that's that's able to 420 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: to do things that are really really unique UM. And 421 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I just got off the phone with our call center 422 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: UM and the calls for things that are follow ups 423 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: on special orders are way down UM, which is an 424 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: anecdotal way to say that special order lead times are 425 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: coming down. UM. So it's a it's great news for 426 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: everybody that our manufacturers have stepped up and and we're 427 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: certainly the leader in the category and in being able 428 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: to get customers product quicker than what they're expecting today. 429 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, all right, Randy, thanks so much for joining us. 430 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Randy Piche there chief operating officer the p g A 431 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Tour superstore, and he has a ton of experience in 432 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: the industry with posting formally at sports Authority and sacks, 433 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: et cetera. So it's great to get his insight on 434 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: the merchandizing and supply chain side of these things. In 435 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: terms of sporting events, I gotta say, Paul, for me, 436 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: the Masters is the greatest sporting event that I've ever 437 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: been to. It's just so much fun. And I've been 438 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: to other big deals like the super Bowl, but nothing 439 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: is like Augusta. I appree with pent. I've been to 440 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: the Masters once. I was fortunate enough to do that, 441 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: and again, I've been fortunate to go to a lot 442 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: of other big sporting events, but it's just special. Even 443 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: if you're not a golf fan, there's just a special 444 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: filling there, and uh, the place itself is just immaculate. 445 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Bloomberg Markets podcast. You can 446 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: subscribe and listen to interviews with Apple Podcasts or whatever 447 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: podcast platform you prefer. I'm Matt Miller. I'm on Twitter 448 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: at Matt Miller three pt on false Sweeney I'm on 449 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Twitter at pt Sweeney. Before the podcast, you can always 450 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: catch us worldwide at Bloomberg Radient