WEBVTT - Being Raised by Immigrant Parents

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you have too, because everybody has a

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<v Speaker 1>story to tell. I cannot do today's episode without my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>my producer, me Bana Men fineo Alex.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex in the house, Bob and I am in the house,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily your house, but I am in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>In your house. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that as much as I am a big,

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<v Speaker 1>bubbly person with this huge personality, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>just see, you know, the end results, but don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>or obviously didn't get the opportunity of seeing the struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>of seeing the journey. Social media just came about, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe what seven eight years ago that it really became

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, and I didn't have an opportunity to showcase

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<v Speaker 1>like my journey. Well, my space don't count because back

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<v Speaker 1>in my space it was all about you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, It wasn't the same. It was like your

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<v Speaker 1>top five friends, top ten pers Everybody was just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, customize their backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>And just be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was such a cool vibe, positive energy. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to compete with each other. It was less

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<v Speaker 1>people being fake and it was a good era. But

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<v Speaker 1>in that time, I wasn't really concerned in showing people

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<v Speaker 1>my journey and my struggles of me still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue my career as an artists, how hard my mother

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<v Speaker 1>had to work to support my dreams as an immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. Like there was just so much backstory

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<v Speaker 1>that now that I'm in a better place. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to take you guys back, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about how it feels what it was

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<v Speaker 1>to be raised by immigrant parents. Well in my case,

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<v Speaker 1>immigrant mother, if you can relate, by the way, don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget to go to exactly amount it on Instagram or

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<v Speaker 1>on the YouTube channel and in the comments, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>your story. Tell me you know, how was it for

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<v Speaker 1>you being raised in the United States coming from immigrant parents,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the cultural difference, language barriers, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So in your case, were you born, Alex in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States or you came here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, just to start off, this is still a

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<v Speaker 3>very hot topic, immigration and immigration reform, and just the

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<v Speaker 3>whole aspect of you know, immigrants coming from other countries

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find solace and happiness here in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States is still a very hot topic. This is something

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<v Speaker 3>has never gone away. I was born and raised in

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<v Speaker 3>Puerto Rico. Now I know it's a common wealth of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States, but I still came from another country,

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<v Speaker 3>another country, but island away outside of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this because I've always had, like

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, I've always had this debate in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind of not understanding. So to me, when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Puerto Rico, guys, please forgive my ignorance. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>this is really like a learning you know, a learning

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<v Speaker 1>experience for all of us. But when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, I feel like it's like talking about like Dominicans.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like, wait, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you really stop and look at it, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are Americans somewhat right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just due to the fact that we've

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen Puerto Rico as as that it's a part

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States. It's a commonwealth. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at film, even at film a matter. From back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day, Puerto Ricans were looked so differently. They were outcasts,

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<v Speaker 3>they were they were for some reason to other people.

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<v Speaker 3>We were still known as immigrants and and talked down to.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came to this country not knowing a word

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<v Speaker 3>of English, so you know, I felt it. I felt

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<v Speaker 3>just like anyone else who came from from a Central

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<v Speaker 3>American country or a South American country into the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel that Puerto Ricans still feel kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, isolated to a certain extent. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>that they still feel like they're treated lay as immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>or not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's changed. I would say the old guard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you still have your grandparents and your

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<v Speaker 3>parents that are still from there that feel a certain

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<v Speaker 3>way about you know, the way the island is viewed

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<v Speaker 3>and the people are viewed. Yes, but I think as

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<v Speaker 3>as generations have kind of moved forward, it's changed a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit because now you see a lot of quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote colonization of Americans moving to the island and becoming

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<v Speaker 3>citizens of Puerto Rico. There's there's a lot, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to unpackt but you yourself, your mom, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, my mom came through the Mexican border. Like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom went through the whole experience of hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>the desert and seeing women get raped and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people being left behind and the coyotes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she saw that whole process.

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<v Speaker 2>She told me it was very traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that only was really put you in a mindset

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<v Speaker 1>because I know there's a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>like against.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigrants coming to this country and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, first of all, I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>much that only lets you know how desperate you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be wherever you're located, that you are willing to

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice your life. In many occasions, there is parents that

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<v Speaker 1>travel with children, there's women who are pregnant who go

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<v Speaker 1>through these missions, whether it is through water or through

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<v Speaker 1>land or whatever, just for a better future. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to generalize, but most of the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>leaving their country, nobody wants to leave their home, Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to leave their household, nobody wants to leave their family.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's no future in your country, if there

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<v Speaker 1>is no future, there's no food, there's no jobs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no electricity, you're struggling. You can only but imagine

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, in your mind or on TV

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you see this other country where there's luxury

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<v Speaker 1>cars and people are famous, and there's glam and there's

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<v Speaker 1>job opportunities, and there's immigrants where they're like, I came

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<v Speaker 1>out of nothing and now I own this. It just

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<v Speaker 1>makes them feel it. There's so much more possibilities. So

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<v Speaker 1>my mom left, which I'm grateful because if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>because of the sacrifice she decided to do with her life,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be here today. And if it wasn't because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here today, she wouldn't be having the lifestyle that

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<v Speaker 1>she has now. Like many other immigrant parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they struggle and they sacrifice for their children and for

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<v Speaker 1>their families, and we have to be grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that sometimes, because we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been able to have it oh but so good, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forget what our parents went through for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have a better lifestyle, you know, for us to

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<v Speaker 1>have good education, health care and all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was hard for her, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud of her. I am proud because my mom, after

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<v Speaker 1>all those struggles, she was able to have three restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked very hard. Still don't know no English, but

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<v Speaker 2>as an immigrant, not knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>The language, you know, language barriers, education barriers, and all

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<v Speaker 1>those things, she still made something out of herself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always admire those stories of people that come out

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing and create a better future for themselves. As

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<v Speaker 1>an immigrant, I'll say this much, not only or coming

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<v Speaker 1>from an immigrant household. I always say even myself, as

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<v Speaker 1>an Apple Latina, I have the best of both worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>In a country that there's a lot of people against immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't want immigrants and it's like and then

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<v Speaker 1>on top of not wanting immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>Then y'all don't want black people either.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's me where I am Latina. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, when you see me, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm Latina until I open my mouth. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am just part of So it's difficult. It's difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. And I think that that's why I've

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<v Speaker 1>been so vocal about being an activist for the Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Latino community. And I think it's important to support the

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants you know, that are coming here to make a

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<v Speaker 1>better future for themselves and for us too, because immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of the work that the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are born here don't want to do. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody wants to talk about it, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and that's a big elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>This country was built by immigrants, okay, and all these

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<v Speaker 1>people that are we're Americans, and we're so well educated.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you're.

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<v Speaker 1>So well educated, silent by Apple, go over there by

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<v Speaker 1>the farmer markets and be over there, you know, working

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<v Speaker 1>hard and be humbled about it, like most of the

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants that come to this country.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's parents still doing that today. Like like I

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<v Speaker 3>see it. I see parents still struggling, still coming because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they come here for safety, a new life

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<v Speaker 3>and opportunity, you know. And then there's there's a different

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<v Speaker 3>spin on it with whomever is talking about it, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the media or politicians or whatever the case

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<v Speaker 3>may be. There's always a different Like people, until you're

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<v Speaker 3>in their shoes, people don't know what's going on. And

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<v Speaker 3>un till today, I mean twenty twenty three, people are

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<v Speaker 3>still struggling the same way your mom did, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>come over, trying to create a life. I seen kids

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<v Speaker 3>still going to work with their parents on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>Like they don't have babysitters, they don't have people to

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<v Speaker 3>take care of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in Miami, where we obviously know the Cubans.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them come, you know, on boats. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you only but imagine what it is to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, in the middle of the ocean, with

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<v Speaker 1>that salt water, full of sharks, full of everything, all

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<v Speaker 1>types of things, and to know, like, for example, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a friend and he was like, thirty six of

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<v Speaker 1>us left Cuba and only sixteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>You're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can only but imagine some people throw themselves

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<v Speaker 1>off off desperation, the the salt on your skin and

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<v Speaker 1>the sun in your face, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes even get lost. And then you you you think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get there in this amount of time and end

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<v Speaker 1>up being lost for like a whole week in.

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<v Speaker 2>The middle of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>We lo we talk about it, but this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a real life experience that people are going through in

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<v Speaker 1>order to try to have a better future.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody does that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come here and I'm just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>a killer or a Robbert, and I'm just gonna go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people that are doing this are really just here

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a job. I want to work, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to have food. There's no food in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no medicine, there's no nothing. So I see those

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<v Speaker 1>stories and I'm like, going to that's crazy. I also

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<v Speaker 1>found on you know, another story that we saw here

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<v Speaker 1>on TV in Miami where there was this lady that

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<v Speaker 1>was seven months pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving Cuba in a little bowl in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 1>The ocean, trying to survive. So I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>be very judgmental, but a a another in another a

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<v Speaker 1>positive note to a certain extent. Something that I am

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for is that my mother worked so hard and

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<v Speaker 1>made sure that I always knew where I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where I came from, even though that I was born

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. My mom never let me lose

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of my culture. We would listen to Juan

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<v Speaker 1>Luiguerra Sisa Caldeleon on the weekends in the house, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was cleaning, you know, I would have my mango

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<v Speaker 1>with salamo, like my Dominican traditional food, and like she

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<v Speaker 1>always made sure you are Latina. You are Dominican, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you were born here, Yes you speak English. Yes I

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<v Speaker 1>get those parts, that part, but here's where your family

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<v Speaker 1>comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes, and I've heard two sides of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of parents want their kids to have a

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<v Speaker 1>better future and they want to become they want them

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<v Speaker 1>to become as Americanized as possible. And there's another side

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<v Speaker 1>where they're like, it's important for you not to lose

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<v Speaker 1>your essence of where you come from. And that also

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<v Speaker 1>comes with even the language.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know of a lot of Latinos that don't speak

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<v Speaker 1>any Spanish because their parents are like, it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>just talk to me in English, I understand what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just answer back and forth. And that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I'm working on myself. My daughters

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak any English, and in my house, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>only speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>We only listen to Spanish. Because I know that the

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<v Speaker 2>world will teach you English, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want them to lose that because I'm second generation what American? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm first generation American. They are second generation American.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to lose it, because sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>lose that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get what I'm saying. Yeah, Well, the importance

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<v Speaker 3>of the of language and cultural you know, existence within

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<v Speaker 3>the family is huge. I know, for instance, I grew

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<v Speaker 3>up talking Spanish at home and that was it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I learned English by going to my you know

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<v Speaker 3>esl classes, you know, and my friends taught me you

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<v Speaker 3>know certain things, and I was surrounded, Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded by a lot of people that were just like me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe that if you if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>teach them both languages, you're setting them up for success anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what about your kids, you teach them Spanish

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<v Speaker 3>sort of kind of It was very hard because we

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<v Speaker 3>were you know, my ex wife and I two different households,

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<v Speaker 3>were divorced, so it was kind of hard. But they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of understand that they were they're upset now that

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<v Speaker 3>they're older, and they didn't you know, get the full

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<v Speaker 3>you know, extent of it and experience of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's never too late. It's never never too late.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, whether it is through music, your food,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watching novelas was one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>really helped.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a cultural thing for us, see coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Together back in the day saw he and everybody will

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<v Speaker 1>come together watch you know, Salo.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a moment and you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to not lose that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hate to see my daughters like mom, this

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<v Speaker 1>and that, and I'm like, oh I am get.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the Let's talk about the educational system a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit here while you were growing up. How now that

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about speaking Spanish, you know, how hard was

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<v Speaker 3>that for you when you were in school? Here? Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the differences and obviously as a as a child of

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<v Speaker 3>an immigrant, right and the people that you you went

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<v Speaker 3>to school with, how was that firsthand for you?

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<v Speaker 1>For as far as in language, sometimes I would mix

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<v Speaker 1>my words, you know, because I'm like, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>and even your brain has to process sometimes, like I

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<v Speaker 1>know what this means in English way, or I know

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<v Speaker 1>what this means in Spanish and you have to like

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<v Speaker 1>find the words inside your brain dictionary. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>some struggles with that sometimes, or I would have the

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<v Speaker 1>kids laugh at me because my accent was pretty heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>I still have an accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, but I imagine even younger, so my accent was

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<v Speaker 1>very Sophia got it like really heavy, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. I'm not embarrassed by it now. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just part of who I am. If they ever

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. Get The educational part was I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was that hard because in Miami it's it's very

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<v Speaker 1>diverse and there's there's a melting pot of cultures. So

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<v Speaker 1>there were I was around other kids too, there were Latinos,

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<v Speaker 1>were a little bit of everything. We also had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of African Americans. It was very mixed, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would try to find, you know, where to fit in

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and it wasn't difficult. But there was a moment

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<v Speaker 1>I went to school younger in Hyalia and then my

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<v Speaker 1>mom ended up having to move for any any Miami people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Hayli. Anyways, we moved to Brown sub which is like a.

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<v Speaker 1>More African American oriented hood, and it was very African

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<v Speaker 1>American and we were like the only Latinos in the

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood and we really.

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<v Speaker 2>Felt it, but we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We felt that when we had to talk or when

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<v Speaker 1>we had to like put our music, but visually you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell the difference. We were just in there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom didn't know one little bit of English,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the thing. And I did get jumped.

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<v Speaker 1>I got jumped by two girls in school, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason was because I felt that I was better than

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<v Speaker 1>everybody because you know, you speak Spanish and da da

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<v Speaker 1>da da, and you think that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Prepping it is okay there.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the like I felt the cultural gomoke a difference. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that they're you know, growing up, You're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too black to be Latin and I'm too Latina

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<v Speaker 1>to be black, So where is it that I exactly belong?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're trying to find that you know where to

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<v Speaker 1>fit in and and that was the thing growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>But going back into my older memories of my youth

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, when I was like four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that my daughters one day get to hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>because regardless, I'm going to tell them and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they know that their lives is so lit in comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>To mind my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like about four or five years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember that my mom did have uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know documents. She she was undocumented, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>working as a cook, and she would literally hide me

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<v Speaker 1>like wait, you know. She would leave me in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>wait till her boss would leave, and would sneak me

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<v Speaker 1>inside the kitchen and she would get the boxes, like

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<v Speaker 1>the boxes of the containers and put it on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and she would let me sleep there. And she

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<v Speaker 1>would throw little towels like the towels from the cook

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from being in the kitchen, and throw it

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<v Speaker 1>over me so that I could sleep and she could

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<v Speaker 1>watch me because she couldn't afford to get a babysitter.

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<v Speaker 2>And in a lot of these places.

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<v Speaker 1>She was always afraid that if they find out she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have no papers, they would, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deport her, and then what would she do with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was American? But she wasn't, so she was

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<v Speaker 2>always scared of what am I supposed to do? What's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And I and I always sometimes, you know, get into

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<v Speaker 1>my emotional space where I cry, because whenever she would

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<v Speaker 1>hear that her boss would come, she would make me,

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<v Speaker 1>she would wake me up, she would make me get

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<v Speaker 1>up and hide, and I would have to like hide

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<v Speaker 1>behind the refrigerator or whatever, because she wasn't allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>have obviously a child inside a kitchen, a hot ass kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>and she would do those things. And sometimes we would

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<v Speaker 1>go home into like, you know, a little efficiency. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to live in efficiency for those that don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a small little house that they do on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of a house that's in many occasions illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would watch her cry, and I would, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a little girl, I didn't know what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put my hands over here and like it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be okay, I mean, don't cry, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and she would cry because she would see all the

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<v Speaker 1>struggles that she was going through as a single mother,

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<v Speaker 1>as an immigrant, as a black Latina, as everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was very very difficult times.

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<v Speaker 1>And whenever I think of where I am now, I

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<v Speaker 1>really realize how far I've come. But I think all

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<v Speaker 1>those experience wasn't you know? It was important for me

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<v Speaker 1>to build my character and to be appreciative of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I have now, which brings me to think

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<v Speaker 1>my daughters won't have to necessarily go through those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want them to struggle to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it in the best way, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to understand the importance of hard work, of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to work hard for what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and not just expect things to be handed to you

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<v Speaker 1>because mommy is famous or rich or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to struggle to a certain extent where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, damn, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is hard on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly do you need to work for yours? Not because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give it to you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to have, you know, good work ethic. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to understand what it is to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be out here and work, because I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>through it, and I've said it and I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 1>Like many immigrants Joan the Florida here, like I used

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<v Speaker 1>to sell flowers in the streets, like you would never think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my, I was that girl with my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>the stop sign, you know, going lane by, laying in

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<v Speaker 1>the cars, you know, selling flowers and we would give

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<v Speaker 1>out flyers. We did the flyers in the car thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>I would clean houses with my mom and my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember. That's why I'm so grateful to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people can tell me whatever they want. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>is untouchable. I remember my mom used to cry sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>she will get emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's a mom, she's a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>To see me with the little palito cleaning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning the toilets and stuff, being like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eleven twelve, and I was doing it to help her.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And she would just watch me and cry and be

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<v Speaker 1>like no, Yola ago And I'm like, no, how many lady.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's tough. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very tough to come from an immigrant household

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<v Speaker 1>and become a success story.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you are, if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from the same type of household, yo, be thankful

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<v Speaker 1>to your parents. Go give them a hug, Go go

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<v Speaker 1>just say thank you because you have a better life

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<v Speaker 1>because of the sacrifice that they were willing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with their lives for you. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes, like I said before, we're not as grateful

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<v Speaker 1>as appreciative as we as we should. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>something that's important to talk about as well, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's for two seconds. Listen, Listen. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you're an immigrant from Russia. I don't care if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an immigrant from Haiti. I don't care if you're an

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<v Speaker 1>immer from Jamaica. I don't care if you're an immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever part of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You are human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you deserve to be respected, You deserve to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated as a human being.

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<v Speaker 2>You deserve to have health care.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve that if you feel ill, if you feel sick,

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<v Speaker 1>not be afraid to go to a hospital, to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a clinic because you're scared that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>deport you back and then just let you die. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of those things that really pissed me off

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like a lot of people feel that they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Superior because they were born in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of those a lot of those same

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<v Speaker 1>doctors that save your ass, that save other human beings,

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<v Speaker 1>come from an immigrant household, Okay, And if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come from an immigrant household, they might be.

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<v Speaker 2>An immigrant themselves. Period overall, not just their parents them.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have come in when they were young or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever and decided, you know what, I'm going to study

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<v Speaker 1>medicine and I am going to save people's lives. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that have very important roles in

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<v Speaker 1>this country that come from an immigrant household, whether there

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<v Speaker 1>is that they can work in the government, whether they

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<v Speaker 1>are attorneys, whether they're doctors, whether.

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<v Speaker 2>They're whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Even music wise, as an artist, your favorite artists may

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<v Speaker 1>come from an immigrant.

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<v Speaker 2>Household as well. Finally, let's see what that can most

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<v Speaker 2>of us, do you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, if you like our music, if you

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<v Speaker 1>like the trend, if you like this, guess what. They

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<v Speaker 1>come from an immigrant household, and we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>supportive of them, especially when we see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants crying over that guy and stuff like this, like

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<v Speaker 1>they want to All they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Crying for is for education.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here because we want to study. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to be educated. We want to be educated so that

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<v Speaker 1>we could be part of the society and make this

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<v Speaker 1>a better place for the rest of us, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>is through technology, whether it is through as a nurse

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<v Speaker 1>in Bora. So the immigrant topic is something that we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about all day and I'm very passionate about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's important that we support, especially now

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<v Speaker 1>that you know soon we'll be having to votes. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I never really understood the importance of voting and how

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<v Speaker 1>much that can really change not only the community that

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<v Speaker 1>you live in, but the country that you live in

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<v Speaker 1>and the decisions that are going to be made based

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<v Speaker 1>off one vote. So I'm not pushing a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and vote. If we really do believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there should be more opportunities for immigrants or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever immigration laws, do something about it by voting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love this. I love this episode. I love

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we gave those flowers and the love

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<v Speaker 3>and light to you know, our parents coming from another

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<v Speaker 3>another place that is not the United States of America

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<v Speaker 3>and being able to work, survive, push give us what

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<v Speaker 3>we needed now what we wanted all the time, because

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<v Speaker 3>we still got what we wanted, but right well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we got what we needed. Today's been a good topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything you want to send our friends who

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<v Speaker 3>are listening home, Something fun, you know, something good, something educational,

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<v Speaker 3>something that you know, I know deep down inside only

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<v Speaker 3>you can give our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed from their parents because their parents don't speak English,

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<v Speaker 1>or because your parents are still stuck with their own

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<v Speaker 1>cultural ways and dress a certain way, or talk a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, or eat certain food.

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<v Speaker 2>Or or whatever. Be proud of your parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Be proud of the parents who raised you, of their

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<v Speaker 1>parents who put you on the place that you are today.

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<v Speaker 1>Be grateful rather better of the opportunities that you have

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<v Speaker 1>today because of the sacrifices that your parents, your grandparents,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it was, did in order for you to have

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<v Speaker 1>a better future. And never deny being Latino. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you're from. Be proud of your ancestors. Be

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<v Speaker 1>proud of your culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Be proud of eating free holicos.

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<v Speaker 1>Be proud of you know, your your aro, kungwandule or

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<v Speaker 1>your mangou.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever it is. Be proud of your music, of

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<v Speaker 2>the music that you hear in your country.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't lose the essence of of your culture because with time,

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<v Speaker 1>one generation to the other, it kind of starts to

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<v Speaker 1>fade little by little. Don't let your generation lose it,

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<v Speaker 1>and also encourage other people. Tell other people about your culture.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another beautiful way for us to connect with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Share those experiences, share the food, share the music, share

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<v Speaker 1>share it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we are a big family. We're a Latino family.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter we're from different parts of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Latin America, we're still Latinos.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not Latino, but you can relate to

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<v Speaker 2>the Latino.

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<v Speaker 1>Culture and you like it and you feel inspired, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it is through the music or whatever, support us. We're

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<v Speaker 1>one big family, you know, and I'm just proud of

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<v Speaker 1>who we are as Latinos.

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<v Speaker 2>Overall. This is truly Michael Dura and I always want

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<v Speaker 2>to share that with you. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex as always, thank you so much for being part

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<v Speaker 1>of exactly a Matter, for sharing your stories, for just

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<v Speaker 1>being on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for being unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 3>You always, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that this episode really has some substance. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>listen as usual.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to Exactly Amada.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said before, if you have a story to share, to

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's a.

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