WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2025 Offseason Preview

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<v Speaker 1>What is up Dolphins, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>we have one more episode to go after this, before

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<v Speaker 1>we get official signings across the National Football League. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take you around the comprehensive work that I

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<v Speaker 1>did this offseason or pre off season to get you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for what might happen next week and beyond as

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins build out their twenty twenty five roster and

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<v Speaker 1>look to improve upon the eight win season last year,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully getting back to eleven plus wins and quite frankly

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<v Speaker 1>more than that than I think we were entitled to

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>In the coming years.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to talk to Rhet Lewis from the

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<v Speaker 1>floor at the Indianapolis Scouting Combine from the Baptist Health

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<v Speaker 1>Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Time Podcast segments. I was cooking around for the

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<v Speaker 1>show and it wound up becoming an ultimate like off

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<v Speaker 1>season primer again, which I know I did last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was another week of information I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to gather and I went through and kind of sorted

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<v Speaker 1>out things in terms of who I think could be

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<v Speaker 1>targets in the premium market.

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<v Speaker 2>Which will be beginning next.

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<v Speaker 1>Week right off the top, and then the secondary market

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<v Speaker 1>and the bargain players, and then a list of players

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<v Speaker 1>by position that could be viable options at each spot

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<v Speaker 1>in your twenty twenty five draft class.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of helped me get a new, reshaped focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>off season was going back and watching some of the

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<v Speaker 1>tape from late in the season following the Kendall Fuller

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<v Speaker 1>cut and the knowledge that the Dolphins will probably shift

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more man coverage this year and be

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<v Speaker 1>in the cornerback market for a player that can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of be what cater Cohu was last year as co

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<v Speaker 1>who I think has graduated into kind of a Kendall

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<v Speaker 1>Fuller role where he can play in and outside, but

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<v Speaker 1>his primary responsibility is on the outside. He's a great

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<v Speaker 1>blitzer and run defender. I think he has a bright

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<v Speaker 1>future here under Anthony Weaver, and ever since he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got his bearings about landmarks and drops and where

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<v Speaker 1>to be in zone coverage. I think that paris with

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<v Speaker 1>how good he is in man coverage as a kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, franchise cornerstone. If not, you know, adequate starter

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<v Speaker 1>to use a Kyle Krabs ism. So that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what spawned me watching Trayvon Merrig who spoiler Alerte

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<v Speaker 1>is alert is going to be a spoiler Alert is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in my premium contract targets options in

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<v Speaker 1>that position. But I was watching him a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games against the Miami Dolphins and a three level defender

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<v Speaker 1>Farochius Hitter who can defend the run from depth, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a very big circle on my offseason checklist that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I check off this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Great burst off the top of the route. He was

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<v Speaker 1>physical enough to match up on john Us Smith but

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<v Speaker 1>also play in the post as a split field safety

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<v Speaker 1>and single high as the loan safety you back there

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<v Speaker 1>watching him, I kept thinking to myself, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Javon Holland was going to be. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be a very expensive player, but

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I have my eyes on. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I also in watching that tape, saw a feisty cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>who just wanted to battle against Tyreek Hill and Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Wattle and Malik Washington. Accordingly, I'm talking about Nate Hobbs,

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<v Speaker 1>who can play inside and outside, really good feel for

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought was similar coverage responsibilities that what Cater

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<v Speaker 1>had a season to go. So I just thought those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys were very interesting to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>and couple of positions I'm going to kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>heavy on in this little mock offseason here that we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to do in a couple of seconds, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Dolphins defense can really kind of take a

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<v Speaker 1>big step here under Anthony Weaver after finishing fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>total defense last year in his first season, And we

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<v Speaker 1>heard Mike McDaniel on this program talk about how he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that shift occur around mid season, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tracks they kind of lost that Buffalo and Arizona game

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<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't get off the field, and they followed

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<v Speaker 1>that up with some really good performances against the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday Night Football. They shut down two bad offenses

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<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders and the Patriots, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had the rough outings against the likes of the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers and in a tough spot and couldn't tackle

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<v Speaker 1>that night, But they had good games against the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>against the Texans later on before ultimately getting gashed on

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<v Speaker 1>the final day of the season, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a real indication of who this team is

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<v Speaker 1>because well, their best player quit the game, right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another topic for another day. We won't get into that

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<v Speaker 1>here on this podcast. But I listed out some guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were like my guys in free agency. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>read it off real quick because it's going to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of double dip here and overlap each other. But Trey Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>Elijah Mitchell, the quarterback, running back Josh Palmer, I do

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<v Speaker 1>like Nick Westbrook Akine, but I think he might be

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<v Speaker 1>His projected market was kind of curious to me. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what he actually gets out there. And then James

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<v Speaker 1>Daniels and Will Hernandez I love will Freeze, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be way too expensive. Patrick McCary,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel bruns Killed, Josh Jones, Derek Nandi, Bobby Brown, bj Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Hoyt, Chase Young, Charles Amnahu, linebackers Willie Gay and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie and Sherwood. The cornerbacks Nate Hobbs and Brandon Ick

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<v Speaker 1>Eckles with Trayvon Merrigg Taloonoah Hafanga, and then Jeremy Chin

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<v Speaker 1>at the safety position where some of the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote down just wanted to get to all that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll also do a different version of the wavish Tringfield

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft four thousand and I'll go ahead and play

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<v Speaker 1>that soundrop for you guys, since I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>so popular last time we did it. Taking a look

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<v Speaker 1>at what might happen after my proposed free agency, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>is anything that's going to be right?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have a good feel on where

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<v Speaker 1>they're going, just based upon, you know, being a fly

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall and recognizing trends over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years. But this is more of my study and

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<v Speaker 1>my own independent type of input, not like I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>things and this is what I'm going to put you

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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how we do it here. That's that is

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<v Speaker 2>not kosher, if you will. This is me.

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<v Speaker 1>Spending two months watching film, engaging the markets, and just

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<v Speaker 1>see what this team needs. So let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>kick it off here with this concept of three levels

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<v Speaker 1>of free agent targets. The premium contracts are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be guys that earn up to or rather more than

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars. Apy I would have a platinum category,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's guys that make thirty million dollars fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in this league, which would be where like a

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Donald would be right where a Chris Godwin would

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<v Speaker 1>be if he doesn't go back to the Buccaneers those

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<v Speaker 1>type of t Higgins contracts. But I don't think Miami's

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<v Speaker 1>in play for that one because that's largely quarterbacks, receivers, tackles, edges,

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<v Speaker 1>and corners, and I don't think Miami's in the market

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<v Speaker 1>for those positions. Sam's cornerback, and I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the market for a big money quarterback. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also I think, but I know this, that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>the type of team that spends twenty three million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on Trey Smith or twenty million dollars on Christian Wilkins.

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<v Speaker 2>You get what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the edges available, I do not see

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<v Speaker 1>a platinum player there, although one of the guys on

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<v Speaker 1>my list was about seven million dollars more than my

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<v Speaker 1>projection when I looked it up on spot rack. But

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<v Speaker 1>I digress there because I do not see a premium player,

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<v Speaker 1>and that actually probably removes this player off my list.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that here in one second. So, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the best safeties on the board are in the same

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<v Speaker 1>range as the best edges because there are all pro

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<v Speaker 1>caliber safeties and not even a Pro Bowl caliber edge

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<v Speaker 1>on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>But those costs kind of even out. Does that make

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<v Speaker 2>sense to you guys? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So here are my premium free agent market targets. This

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<v Speaker 1>is ten million plus per year, and I gave myself

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<v Speaker 1>the allowance to choose two of these guys, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my second wave was anywhere from two to four depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what I did in that first In this first market,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually spoiler, I didn't sign any of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Will Freeze at fourteen million bucks, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Colts guard. He would be a slam dunk fit here.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be a Pro Bowl player for US if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get him. That's pretty expensive. Makai Bectam is projected

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<v Speaker 1>at ten million bucks, but I could see him getting more.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also in the list here. And then Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>McCary was a guy that I was planning on signing

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<v Speaker 1>until I saw the spot rack evaluation of eleven million

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<v Speaker 1>bucks per year. I think that he's probably a backup here,

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth swingman at four positions. I just can't justify

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<v Speaker 1>that for more than half of my starting offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Chase Young was the trojan horse I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier, seventeen million bucks projected on spot Rack

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<v Speaker 1>did not spow track, did not expect that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Hoyt from the Rams was my other edge option

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve million per year. Cornerback Paulson a debo for

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<v Speaker 1>eleven million bucks a year from the Saints, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Merrig from the Raiders is fifteen million dollars per year.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not inc freeze Beckon, McCary, Young, Hoyt, Adebo

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<v Speaker 1>or Merrig, even though I identified them as potential targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is where I did go heavy in the second

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<v Speaker 1>wave of free agency. Nick Westbrook a kine was a

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollar projection. In fact, he, Brandon Cooks, and

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Palmer all were the wide receivers and none of

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<v Speaker 1>them got contracts from your boy. I did, however, sign

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<v Speaker 1>two offensive lineman here and one defensive line and I went

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<v Speaker 1>James Daniels from the Steelers eight million dollars per year,

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<v Speaker 1>which I could see that softening a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it does, maybe I can afford one more player

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<v Speaker 1>in this grouping of players here, but coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>Achilles injury, I could see the pause there, But his

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<v Speaker 1>tape is elite. He's an elite athlete that fits what

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<v Speaker 1>we do at the guard position. He can play center

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<v Speaker 1>in a pinch as well. I think that he is

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<v Speaker 1>like the perfect, the picture perfect interior offensive lineman for

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<v Speaker 1>this system, sans coming off the Achilles injury. So that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of maybe saves you a couple of bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>does introduce some consternation about that acquisition. I'm very well

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that, but I'm going with it anyways. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also gonna sign Will Hernandez. Those are my two starting

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<v Speaker 1>guards in twenty twenty five. I'm gonna have James Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>play left guard and Will Hernandez play right guard. That's

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<v Speaker 1>two bigger bodies. That's one really good athlete, one good

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<v Speaker 1>enough athlete, and two really good pass protectors alongside Aaron Brewer,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think can help protect him inside a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in terms of his sized efficiency there, keep to

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<v Speaker 1>a tongue by lower upright, get some push in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game, and keep our outside zone game intact with

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<v Speaker 1>those two players. Jonah Jackson was also on the target.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed on that because he's a trade option. He

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<v Speaker 1>would be owed nine million bucks this year in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>million bucks next year, which you probably would redo that

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<v Speaker 1>contract to lop off that third year or the second year,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say a third year of the total deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just not going to part with picks because

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<v Speaker 1>I want I want my picks that I have coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I also signed a Rams player here pipping over to

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side, Bobby Brown, and Kyle was saying he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks you can do him for four million because of

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<v Speaker 1>the snap count and the lack of sacks, but watching

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<v Speaker 1>his tape, I just don't know about that. And with

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<v Speaker 1>the salary cap rising, I did put him in a

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollar bind.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to sign him from the Rams. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be my number two alongside Zach Seeler on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed up on Greg Gains for eight million bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>LEVI on Wuzerique from the lines for six million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I took Brown because he can play a more nose

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and he can kind of be my one A

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<v Speaker 1>with Benito Jones being my one B at nose tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>With Brown playing more three technique reps when I do

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<v Speaker 1>have b Jones on the field. My edge option here

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<v Speaker 1>was Charles Amenahu, who is projected for nine million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and pass on that. The two

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers are three rather here that were in play, Willie

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<v Speaker 1>Gay Junior from the Saints, Jamien Sherwood from the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jermaine Pratt, who would be a trade option.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But those three guys were eight seven six million bucks respectively.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be curious to kick the tires on Sherwood

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<v Speaker 1>in that spot, but a little bit spending for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Brandon Stevens, a seven million dollar cornerback, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Jeremy Chin and Julian Blackman seven million bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>eight million bucks at the safety position. I did sign

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. I think Jeremy Chin could be

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<v Speaker 1>your Derwin James, your I sort of Kyle Hamilton what

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons was supposed to be. I think Weave would

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<v Speaker 1>kill for a guy that can do a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of everything, which is why I think Nick Aman Worry

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<v Speaker 1>and Jihad Campbell and Carson sweeshing heer a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in the in play for the Dolphins early in this

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<v Speaker 1>year's draft, but I'm going with Jeremy Chin at the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience had a really good year last year for the Commanders,

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<v Speaker 1>and he can play all three levels of your defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the bargain department, where I spent a good deal

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<v Speaker 1>of money here, signing one, two, three, four, five six

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<v Speaker 1>players ready quarterback Marcus Mariota for four million bucks. He

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<v Speaker 1>won out over Trey Lance for two million bucks. On

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<v Speaker 1>my options here, I only had one running back on

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<v Speaker 1>this entire list, and I signed him, Elijah Mitchell from

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers. He's minimum deal. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come in here and be running back three if he

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<v Speaker 1>can stay healthy. For once, wide receiver Josh Palmer four

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<v Speaker 1>million bucks passed on him. I passed on receiver Diami Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the two million dollar projection here is way

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<v Speaker 1>too low. I think it's going to get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. I also passed on tight end John

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<v Speaker 1>Bates for a million bucks. I also passed on Josh Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think his two million dollar projection the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>tackle is to me way too low. I did, however,

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<v Speaker 1>sign a guy that was drafted by the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>Ers to play guard for four years and played really

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<v Speaker 1>well there, and then went to the Titans and played

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<v Speaker 1>two years of tackle there. So he's played four positions

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<v Speaker 1>across the offensive line, and actually he's played five because

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<v Speaker 1>he has played center two. Daniel Brunskill for three million

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a year. I passed on Derek Noddy, the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle, for three million bucks. I did ink Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Davenport from the Lions for two million bucks a year,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to kind of hit lightning into bottle here

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<v Speaker 1>with a very physically gifted player who has not performed

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<v Speaker 1>to that first round draft pick status. I passed on

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Turner two million bucks. I signed linebacker Chris Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>from the Cardinals for two million bucks, passing on Oron

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<v Speaker 1>Burks from the Equals at three million bucks. And then

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<v Speaker 1>my last signing was cornerback Nate Hobbs of the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>for four million to play my slot and outside positions

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<v Speaker 1>alongside Ramsey and Kohu. I passed on Brandon Eckles and

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<v Speaker 1>DeMar Hamlin. Both those players were projected at three million

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<v Speaker 1>bucks per so that's forty one million dollars in new

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<v Speaker 1>money I spent. I also brought back cater Coohu and

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrell Dodson for five million apiece, roughly Tya Spouser, Deshan

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<v Speaker 1>Hand and Benito Jones for two million bucks apiece. And

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum signings back that will not count against the

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty one. You only have to your salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>only constitutes a top fifty one players in your roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet some folks out there telling you about this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. Via River creak Craft, I brought back

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Whim and Elijah Campbell. I brought back Quentin Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and Cam Good off the edge, two more receivers and

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Dabos and ds Gridge and tackle key On Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>So roughly fifty seven million bucks. I spent new money

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Thanks a lot to Ron Armstead for giving

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<v Speaker 1>us that flexibility. And that leaves us with the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote the roster out here, but let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and skip over that and just get into my draft

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<v Speaker 1>position before we take a break and get to the

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<v Speaker 1>great rhet lewis here. I feel as though I am

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<v Speaker 1>set at quarterback with two good ones. My skill positions

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very good about with the running back inclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't sign any receivers. But with what I

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<v Speaker 1>plan to do in the draftter, I feel good about

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm sitting. I feel like my offensive line is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of loaded. I've got depth, I've got versatility, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got five good starters. I have quality talent and depth

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<v Speaker 1>at defensive tackle, cornerback, and edge. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have big needs at linebacker and safety, and really those detackle, cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>edges could all use one more piece.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna go into the draft with that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really like going into this draft with a

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<v Speaker 1>you need it backer in safety because I can get

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<v Speaker 1>starters at both those spots on Day two in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>And if that's even thinking, if we don't need you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tygrell Dotson could be a star. So I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gave myself a list of options across each pick. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>let's actually go ahead and take a break and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back and do that. And then here from Rhet

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis on the other side of the Draft Time podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation

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<v Speaker 1>back here after free agency mock Central, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about this draft. So I gave myself one

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<v Speaker 1>two three, four, five, six, seven, eight options at the

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<v Speaker 1>first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of names to cover here, but I

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<v Speaker 1>basically have a random category offensive line, tight end, defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>edge linebacker, cornerback, in safety.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to parse my way through all these options.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my first My pick thirteen options were Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Baron the corner safety from Texas, Kelvin Banks the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line from Texas, Tyler Warren, Kenneth Grant, mikel Williams, Jehad Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>will Johnson the corn cornerback from Michigan, and safety nick

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<v Speaker 1>Iman Warry from South Carolina State. I went with Tyler Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stick with that for the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think the way he impacts this offense,

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard me talk about it relentlessly. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>stay there for the rest of the way. At pick

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight. Really had a tough time here. Party wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go Campbell at thirteen, then come back with Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor at forty eight. If he's even there, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think he will be actually, But between that with

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Grant, my offensive line option, I put Jack Besh

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<v Speaker 1>and Jayden Higgins the two big receivers as the options there.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Collins a defensive tackle option, Xavier Watts my safety option.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going with cornerback Jacob Parrish because he runs

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<v Speaker 1>a four to three. He plays like he's pissed off.

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<v Speaker 1>He's feisty, he can press, he can play the run,

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<v Speaker 1>he can blitz. He's kind of like Trent McDuffie light

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. I'm taking him at pick

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight, and then at picked ninety eight, I went

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<v Speaker 1>with Darius Alexander, the defensive tackle from Toledo with elite

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<v Speaker 1>first step quickness and twitch. He's going to be my

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<v Speaker 1>third defensive tackle and a great pass rusher right away,

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<v Speaker 1>passing up on Tyler Shook on Miles Frasier, on on,

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<v Speaker 1>Josiah Stewart on Danny Stutzman on Leathan Ransom was the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy I really had penciled in there, but I

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<v Speaker 1>came back at picked one fourteen and took safety Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Bowman out of Oklahoma. He kind of has some Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Bates to his game, obviously not quite as accomplished, but

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to read from that center field position and

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<v Speaker 1>break on the football was very attractive. I passed up

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<v Speaker 1>on Jackson Slater, the Sacramento State guard that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelle Tooton, the running back from Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him a lot as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed up on Maxwell Harriston, junior from Kentucky the cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan Phillips, the defensive tackle from Maryland. At picked

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty five, I took wide receiver Kyle Williams, the

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<v Speaker 1>out of Washington State, but Goo Koogs is a he

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<v Speaker 1>ran four to three that pairs with his really good

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<v Speaker 1>route running ability and big time production in college. I

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<v Speaker 1>passed up on Jared Ivy, Jamary Caldwell and Quincy Riley

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<v Speaker 1>and Anthony Belton across the offensive line there and Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Hawes a tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>I took Max Brosmer, the Minnesota quarterback, next, passing up

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<v Speaker 1>on Arondez Gads in the second JJ Peggey I think

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<v Speaker 1>I said that right, and then some other players across

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<v Speaker 1>that board, and then I went with CJ. West we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about him here with raht Lewis in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>the Indiana defensive tackle. And that is the last pre

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<v Speaker 1>pre agency.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lavish twin field mock draft generator four thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Calculating data that we are going to do. But I

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<v Speaker 1>will have Kyle Krabs on the show Monday to take

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<v Speaker 1>me through his mock off season to compare notes back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth with him. With that said, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and get to my final roster from all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you cannot tell, this is an addition into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I had recorded this before the information came across that

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb was going to agree to reduce his salary

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<v Speaker 1>for the season and convert that contract into bonuses that

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<v Speaker 1>he can re earn back through incentives, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to put this on a separate audio file and add

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<v Speaker 1>it into the podcast because it just tells you about

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<v Speaker 1>where this culture is and where it needs to go

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<v Speaker 1>to take the next step. It is not a place

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<v Speaker 1>that guys don't want to work, obviously. Now they need

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way to tighten the reins a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and make it a fun place to work that

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<v Speaker 1>has a better sense of accountability. But I think Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>Chubb is a good example of the kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>they've focused on over the last few years who did

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<v Speaker 1>not take advantage of the situation. Beechub is an a

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<v Speaker 1>class human being. I can say that from experience. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a really good football player when he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I am worried a little bit about that cliff that

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<v Speaker 1>comes around age thirty for his position, especially off another

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<v Speaker 1>major reconstructive knee surgery. But remember this was in January

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three, So we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fool. What was that twenty months removed from the

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<v Speaker 1>injury when the new season begins. So for Beechub to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce his salary to basically, I haven't earned it quite yet,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go earn it on the football field and

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<v Speaker 1>help the team as a result, I think that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Solves a big issue this roster is going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna edit it right now because obviously don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the microphone and the equipment to do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>in my final roster analysis, you're not gonna hear Beachubb

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<v Speaker 1>in the list. But when you put him in that list,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you think of at least eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the player he was in twenty twenty three when he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt, that's a big shot in the arm to

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<v Speaker 1>this pass rush. So his run defense, I think It

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to be more creative with Chop Robinson. It

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to kind of ease both he and JP

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<v Speaker 1>back in. It allows you to get more runway for

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<v Speaker 1>your development from Mohammed Kamara, for Grayson Murphy, for Quentin Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Big fan of this move at the reduced cost, Bradley Chubb,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the man quarterback to a tongue by Loa, Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Mariota and Max Brosmer. So, I have my starter, my

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<v Speaker 1>veteran backup, and my rookie developmental piece at running back.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel light here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably come back on day three, maybe try to

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<v Speaker 1>find like an RJ. Harvey or something from UC, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going light here with A chan Wright, Elijah Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>alec Ingold. I need one more back in that group

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<v Speaker 1>at receiver, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Wattle, Malik Washington, Kyle Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Slotson is my fourth. And then I've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys competing in Eric Azukama, River Craycraft, d S. Gridge,

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Debos, and Taj Washington at tight end. I freaking

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<v Speaker 1>love this room. Tyler Warren, John new Smith, Julian Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tanner Connor. That's gonna be a three man room.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the top, I already know how it's gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>from camp into the regular season. And then my tackles

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<v Speaker 1>are Patrick Paul and Austin Jackson with Daniel Brunskill the

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<v Speaker 1>swing and I'm gonna let Keon Smith compete for that

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<v Speaker 1>top swing job to push Brunskill into a pos a

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<v Speaker 1>possible swing guard swing tackle option. I've got so many

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<v Speaker 1>options because wi I did on the offensive line. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I feel great. I have like eight nine guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel really good about. That's where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And then Braden Daniels is in the room

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<v Speaker 1>also with James Daniels, Aaron Brewer, Will Hernandez, Isaiah Winn,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Meyer my top interior guys with Brunskill to add,

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<v Speaker 1>So my starters are going to be Paul Daniels, Brewer, Hernandez,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jackson with Brunskill, Keon Smith and Isaiah Win my

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<v Speaker 1>top backups. I feel pretty good about that with Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer in there as well. On defense, Zach Seeler is

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<v Speaker 1>the straw that stirs the drink. I gave him, Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Brown next to him and Darius Alexander. That's a nose

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<v Speaker 1>and a three technique, both with really good twitch, one

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<v Speaker 1>really good run defender, one really good pass rusher. I

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<v Speaker 1>also brought back Deshan Hand and Benito Jones for depth

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<v Speaker 1>up front, and I also drafted CJ. West, who has

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything in his game as a

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<v Speaker 1>dev piece. On the back of that, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a little bit light. We could do some

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<v Speaker 1>more here. Jalen Phillips and Chop Robinson my two edges.

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<v Speaker 1>I think JP is going to be back in Week

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<v Speaker 1>one like he was last year, hopefully we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a safety takeout his knees again. And then Marcus Davenport's

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<v Speaker 1>my third. I don't love that. I need more from

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<v Speaker 1>Mohammed Kamara this year. And then I do feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about this part of the room as far as depth

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<v Speaker 1>goes with Quintin Bell, Tyas Bowser, Grayson Murphy, Cameron Good

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<v Speaker 1>and Zach Seeler is going to factor in off the

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<v Speaker 1>edge as well because he's played lots of five technique

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<v Speaker 1>here and because of my the defensive tackle, I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And I'm still gonna give kalay As Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>a call and say what's it gonna take to get

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<v Speaker 1>you back here again next to You're a big fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>So overall those two groups together I feel good about,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the edge spot is a little bit weak,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can pool Seeler and I might have Kalais

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell on speed dial linebackers, where I also don't feel great.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Brooks, to me has all pro potential we know

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Tyrell Dotson is my two, and then Chris Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona free agent, is my three. With Chang Tendall

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<v Speaker 1>to four. We probably need another body there. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>a Day three pick or a UDFA competing for that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at cornerback Ramsey and Coho with Nate Hobbs

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<v Speaker 1>as my initial starter in the slot, but Jacob Parrish

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna get a chance to start as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, I think we're gonna play a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>six man defensive back packages where we have multiple guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and Parish could be a safety swing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy as well. So there's all kinds of options here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ramsey, co Who, Hobbs and Perish, and then Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Duck Bonner and Ryan Cooper competing for those spots. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see going with one of the other hobbes or

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<v Speaker 1>para and then kind of letting that cornerback spot play

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<v Speaker 1>itself out and hopefully someone rises to the occasion. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leave it to chance, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want the secondary to be humming with seven to eight

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<v Speaker 1>guys deep. And that's why I signed Jeremy Chin to

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<v Speaker 1>be all over the place. That's why I drafted Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Bowman to play center field for us. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>have Patrick mc morris as kind of a nickel safety,

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<v Speaker 1>with Elijah Campbell back in his special teams role rounding

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<v Speaker 1>out the room. It kind of feels like you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go into camp this year with like two, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully just one position where it's like, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens here. And I tend to think off

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<v Speaker 1>ball linebacker is that spot maybe in the defensive backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>but at linebacker you signed Dotson, perhaps get a Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>or a Berks type of addition there, and hopefully one

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<v Speaker 1>of those three as well as a draft picker Udfa

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<v Speaker 1>hits behind Brooks. And then I think maybe at cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But I'm really conflicted, like if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot my first two picks I would go Bama

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker Jahad Campbell and then come back with Mason Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>at forty eight. But again I've decided to just stick

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<v Speaker 1>with Tyler Warren at pick thirteen. I think he just

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<v Speaker 1>changes so much for you. So there you go and

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<v Speaker 1>doct what Let me know what you think of that

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<v Speaker 1>roster here before this all starts to happen on social

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<v Speaker 1>media and we'll have fun, let's go ahead and quickly

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<v Speaker 1>pivot now to my chat with NFL Network's Rhet Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>the Indiana Hoosier and great host and great analyst. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a fun chat at the Combine floor back

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<v Speaker 1>last week in Indianapolis. Joining us today is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the anchors of Combine coverage here all week long in Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network talent Rhett Lewis, Rhett, thanks for joining the show. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Been a long time fan years in.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I appreciate that man. Thanks for having me. I

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<v Speaker 4>love this time of year. I love Draft, I love Combine.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of my favorite events and a great

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to learn more about players and kind of get to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, talk to a bunch of teams and coaches

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<v Speaker 4>and players It's just it checks all the boxes for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool because I was telling you before you

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<v Speaker 1>came on that we have somewhat similar paths. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a host and then kind of also branch

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<v Speaker 1>into the analyst world and do both those jobs now,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, I anchor our postgame show for the

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<v Speaker 1>local radio station.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also kind of like being the one that

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<v Speaker 1>gets cued up as an analyst, and you've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>taken that similar role as well. Yeah, and my question

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<v Speaker 1>for you is, you know, how did you make that transition?

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<v Speaker 1>And I assume you were heavily resourceful with all the

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<v Speaker 1>people you've had around you, like a Daniel, Jeremiah Shurstance,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Brooks, those guys, well, I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the you know, Daniel's the best in the world

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<v Speaker 4>at being a draft expert. There's there's nobody whose opinion

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<v Speaker 4>I trust more than him, and and that's because he

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<v Speaker 4>works at it and I know it so and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>has been there and done it in the league. And

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<v Speaker 4>it also turns out that he can regurgitate that information

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<v Speaker 4>in a highly entertaining manner, which is obviously what an

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<v Speaker 4>analyst is all about. So yeah, seeing him around has

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<v Speaker 4>certainly helped, you know, kind of refine the way in

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<v Speaker 4>which I've approached other avenues in my career. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think the thing that did it for me was finding

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<v Speaker 4>a way to get back into live games, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I I was I've been a.

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<v Speaker 4>Studio host to NFL Network for eleven years and I

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<v Speaker 4>love that, but there was this itch to get back

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<v Speaker 4>around games, which the studio gig does not really allow

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<v Speaker 4>me to do a whole lot. So in order to

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<v Speaker 4>do that, I went back to Milma Modern, Indiana and

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<v Speaker 4>joined the radio broadcast team there and was the color

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<v Speaker 4>analyst for two years. I then, I've also been wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to get into play by play for a while. I've

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<v Speaker 4>done a bunch of play by play games, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I got in with Big ten Network, you know, as

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<v Speaker 4>a as a color analyst for Indiana's spring game last year,

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<v Speaker 4>which then they asked me to go and be on

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<v Speaker 4>one of their crews all year long as a sideline person.

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<v Speaker 4>So I feel like I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I can.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more jack of all trades right now than master

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<v Speaker 4>of one, but we're working towards that maybe we can

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<v Speaker 4>find a way to be master of them all.

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<v Speaker 3>But it sure does take a takes.

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<v Speaker 4>It takes a toll trying to be everything to everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's great. I mean, like when you love the

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<v Speaker 4>subject matter easy, it makes it a lot very.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Easy the more you can do it. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>moniker of the National Football League. And when you walked over,

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually editing podcast, which five years ago was

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<v Speaker 1>not something really that well in my repertoire. Right here

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<v Speaker 1>we are doing it at a high level, i'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to think these days. So yeah, great stuff, man, that

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the Move Sticks podcast is one of the best out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Love having you guys give me all the content for

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>these draft prospects and really the background detail on these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's gotta be a fun part of this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>For you, you know, and getting to do play by

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<v Speaker 4>play for the Senior Bowl this year for NFL Network

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>really kind of allowed me the opportunity and the necessity

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 4>to dig into the background story of you know, all

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 4>those players that were there. So you know, that was

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<v Speaker 4>that was the thing that consumed most of my time.

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<v Speaker 4>Whereas you know, in my my college roles, i'd be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, watching their tape, but in this one, I

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 4>was trying to learn more about who they are, and

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<v Speaker 4>because obviously, you know, DJ and Charles were we're providing

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all of the analysis. But I've also found

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 4>that getting to be around those guys in my role

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 4>at Big ten Network, like on the college side, has

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<v Speaker 4>helped on the NFL side this time of year, understand

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<v Speaker 4>who they are and get to talk to some coaches

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>about him and that sort of thing. So yeah, I

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>love I love learning with the stories. And God, we

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<v Speaker 4>had some incredible ones at the Senior Bowl and some

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>of those guys are obviously a bunch most of those

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<v Speaker 4>guys are here at the combine as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the anyone that stands out to you?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Jack besh is, you know, unfortunately for all

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong reasons. But what he did to turn it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know into good uh and and into some positivity

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<v Speaker 4>after his brother was killed in the terrorist attack on

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans in New Year's Day, catching the game when

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<v Speaker 4>he passed at the Senior Bowl, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>showed what kind of mentally tough kid he is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it also showed like what a damn good football player.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, absolutely, Like let's have let that get lost in

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<v Speaker 4>the shuffle here of what was a great moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's he's an incredible one.

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<v Speaker 4>Gosh, there's a there, There's there's a million stories out

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<v Speaker 4>there that we could we could go into, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think anyone's going to rise above Jack Besh.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing him speak, like within a week of that happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you almost couldn't even tell, like the way he was

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of locked in on all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So what football helps you and you know what can

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<v Speaker 4>help in in that that healing process.

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think Jack also seems to be a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that with his size, you know, in a smaller Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>receivers room and that temperament.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe he's a fit for the Dolphins at.

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<v Speaker 1>Some point on Day two in this year's draft, all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. Yeah, I think him and his teammate Save

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<v Speaker 1>Williams are fun. Are fun process. Yes, very good point

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<v Speaker 1>with that in mind, when you look at the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>this year's draft. I've had a lot of folks in

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<v Speaker 1>this chair this week and I've asked him the same

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<v Speaker 1>question and I've got a lot of very variable answers

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<v Speaker 1>that are kind of fun to go through. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Miami Dolphins in this year's draft

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<v Speaker 1>and offseason, what do you what kind of is the

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<v Speaker 1>I guess overarching theme to you about what they need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to to kind of find their way back

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, you know, after a down year when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if two was healthy probably back in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't for this season. But how do they find

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<v Speaker 2>their way back into the postseason?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's it's rekindling a dominant run game,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I mean, Mike is such a genius at

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 4>figuring that stuff out, and I'm sure he will, but

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<v Speaker 4>like that to me feels like, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 4>who the Dolphins were when they were really rolling, when

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 4>that offense was just so difficult to stop. Is that

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<v Speaker 4>run game, you know, with with whether it was Devon

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 4>a Chen or whether it was Mostard or Wilson or

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, like whoever was healthy, which has kind of

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 4>been the unfortunate part of that.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 3>A lot of those guys haven't been healthy.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Throughout the course of the season consistently, so I guess,

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, that is tough, but ultimately, like they've got

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 4>to rebuild that offensive line, you know, I think and

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 4>obviously seeing that some of the headlines with Toron Armstead

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 4>and you know, not not necessarily counting on him to

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of it. I think, you know, sitting

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 4>there at thirteen, you're gonna have a chance to improve

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 4>your offensive line, you know, right there, whether that's a

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 4>guy like Booker from Alabama, whether it's Banks from Texas.

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't think Will Campbell's there at that point from LSU.

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Maybe a touch high for a player like Grey's Abele

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 4>from North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 3>Build my GA.

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 4>It was incredible, And what he gives you is the

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to put him almost anywhere along the line. Although

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 4>I feel like he's he's probably the best center in

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 4>this year's class, although he took reps everywhere and won

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 4>most of them at all those positions at the Senior Bowl.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 4>So what that'll do is allow you some versatility to

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<v Speaker 4>get your best five out there. You know, maybe if

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 4>there's an opportunity to slide down, that becomes a little

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 4>bit more of a real possibility there. I think he's

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 4>probably you're probably talking about a Zabel coming off the board,

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know eighteen to twenty eight at

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 4>this point, but it's not that far off at thirteen anyway.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 4>So I think that would make sense. And then you know,

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, defensively, you know, I think what happens with

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Javon Holland will also play a big role in how

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 4>this draft turns out.

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a deep class at safety as well, later on

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>on Day two, Day three also, and then the free

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>agent class is pretty pretty packed in that position as well. Yeah,

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's funny you mentioned Zabel, like talk about how much

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you can help yourself with the Senior Bowl.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>My goodness, he really shining.

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Example, it's incredible you mentioned Will Campbell and I'm curious

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to kind of circle back on him because I think

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>when the college she's an ended, he was kind of

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>thought as like the guy, not not maybe not Joe

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Alt level, but he was kind of the.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Guy at the draft class.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But the more I'm hearing from people like yourself this

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>week in India, it sounds like maybe a move inside

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>could be best for him.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 4>For Will Campbell, Yeah, I'd still keep Will Campbell at tackle.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that's that's where he's at. I think there's

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 4>there's certainly guys out there like armand Membu people are

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 4>talking about as as potential, you know, ability to move

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 4>in inside maybe better suited there. But he's really played

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 4>tackle at Missouri and played very well in the SEC,

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 4>so I don't know that that is a necessity. I

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 4>think he's got framed there, you know, to be one

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 4>of those guys, I think, you know, a player down

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 4>the road like Jonah Mannheim from usc who also had

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 4>another really good Senior Bowl week, could be a player

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 4>that makes a lot of sense as an interior player

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 4>to help upgrade that that part of it. You know,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 4>if you don't if you don't get one of those

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 4>guys in the first first two rounds, Monheim could be

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 4>availab a little bit later on.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>When you look at this draft as a whole.

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, the offensive line seems to be a kind

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of a sweet spot there. From Miami, I think, you know,

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>there's some edge rushers you could look at defensive tackle

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.959
<v Speaker 1>position to kind of replace what you know you lost

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in Christian Wilkins and then this year with Kalais Campbell

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>see what happens with him. But that seems to be

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of a sweet spot in this draft. But in

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>terms of this class, you know, I keep hearing him

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>like not super top heavy, but a lot of depth

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>in the class. I'm just curious with the balance of

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the positions and maybe the lack of star power up top. Like,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>how would you describe this draft if you kind of

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>had to look at it as on a whole the

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>draft as a whole show.

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's a it's a big person draft.

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 4>It really is, if you I'm really on both sides

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 4>of the ball, with more top end talent on the

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 4>defensive side for the big people. And so, you know,

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 4>I think the Dolphins really hit on Chop Robinson last year, right,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>and so that process for them worked with Chopp. You know,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 4>looking at the way the Eagles win the Super Bowl,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.479
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't hate him dialing up with Mike Green right there

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 4>at pick number thirteen. I think, you know, the FBS

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 4>stack leader at Marshall has shown some incredible ability, you

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>know in mobile Senior Bowl on tape, that kind of

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 4>sack production you don't just happen stance into.

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't hate that either.

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like, yeah, you're getting better there, but are

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 4>you you know, are you dominant there?

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Let's let's try to get better.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 4>And so I think that that's something especially you know,

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 4>considering uh, you know, the health of you know Jalen

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Phillips and guys at that position too.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean they opened the year last year with going

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>into training camp. It was Breley Chubb. We knew he

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was going to miss some time. Jalen Phillips was on

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>his way back.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Jack Barrett didn't make it to training camp. He retired

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on the team before that got there, and then Chock

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Robinson became what he was rookie.

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>So I had dinner last time with a buddy of

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>mine who's brother in law intended attended Indiana, and i've

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm big on this defensive tackle class, but he

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>told me to ask Rehet Lewis about c J.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 3>West.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 4>C J. West is a is an interior disruptor, a

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 4>little over six foot, three.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Hundred pounds like he will.

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know that he's gonna sit there

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 4>and cover up the center as a nose, but I

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 4>think he could in a in a more of a

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 4>four down type of scenario, could find his way to

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 4>create some havoc inside.

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>He did that at the Shrine Bowl in in.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Dallas, and I think he's his game really blossomed and

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 4>that's what he was asked to do at IU was like, Hey,

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 4>don't worry about the gaps you get in there, cause

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 4>Havoc linebackers will fix it for you.

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 3>And and that's that's what he did.

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 4>I would have liked to have seen it maybe a

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 4>little bit more consistently, like that top level disruption, but

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I think he's got that in his bag, and I'll.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Be really intrigued to see where he goes.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 4>I think he's probably you know, the ceiling right now

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of feels like a fourth round type of situation,

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 4>but I feel really good about getting him on day three.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd be interested.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a fun defensive tackle class look at, especially

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>up top with you know, all the Michigan guys. Oh yeah,

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's Walter Nolan. It's it's loaded up

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>there rtt Lewis. So you can find him on the

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>NFL Combine coverage this weekend NFL Draft as well all

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>across the NFL media landscape and red before you go.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually just remember this.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So back in twenty twenty, my first year with the

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins, they didn't have local talent on the on

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the like, on the scene for training camp because the

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of COVID and so they had me fill in and

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>actually on Inside Training Camp Live you through it to me. Yes, nice,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So I had forgotten about that. Then it kind of

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>all came back to me here on the show. So

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>look at this five years later making full search. Oh

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome, man, I hope you get to do that

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>again this summer.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'd be great. Appreciate your time today, Ye, my pleasure.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I think one of my.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 1>Favorite parts about doing this job is when you get

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a kind of inclination for how a person is that

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you haven't met yet, and then you meet that person

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and they not only live up to that expectation but

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>exceed it. And ratt Lewis is definitely one of those guys.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So thanks to him and all the folks that joined

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>us on the show throughout the week at the Combine.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It really makes my job easier to have guests on

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the show and kind of get me through the entire

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<v Speaker 1>week of content as I sprinkle in my own takes

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and thoughts and film evaluations and all the projections that

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>we do here on the show with you guys to

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>get different voices.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep it locked right here.

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0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.000
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0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>whole bevy of moves to talk about, maybe some from

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