WEBVTT - The Third Lorelai is Here! (S1 E18, “The Third Lorelai”) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:18.440 I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.360 Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, hey 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.720 Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.040 Podcast from our Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And man, 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.520 we got a barn Burner and Norman tonight, I'll tell 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:38.520 you with this episode, the third Laurela Marion Ross making 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.960 I believe, her debut in the series, and what an 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:46.040 auspicious debut it was. Good. Lord, have you ever seen 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:53.400 Emily Gilmore So let me say for tootst to borrow 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:58.360 a word, perfect word. I mean, just just losing her 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.480 mind that this woman was visiting from London, that Richard 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.160 was so happy about it, and my god, she was 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.320 just not She was out of her element. She was 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.120 gonna her home was being invaded by this woman. Obviously 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.440 they don't get along. And it was one of the 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:17.440 funniest episodes. Those exchanges between between Marion Ross and and 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.000 Kelly Bishop were classic and some of the best laughs 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.160 I've had in the whole thing. And there's you know, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.360 all kinds of stuff going on. You've got Tristan and 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.120 and Rory you know, talking a little bit, and Paris 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.160 getting set up with Tristan and and my god, there 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.240 was there was a lot of a lot of intrigue 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.400 here Laurela getting offered a boatload of money and then 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.800 uh from from tricks from from the third Laurelai and 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.520 then it all blows up in her face, that the 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.200 whole thing, Emily just but you know, I think Emily 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.360 did have a point. I think Emily was concerned that 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.240 obviously she was gonna lose control, was going to affect 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.000 the nature relationship, it was gonna affect their ability to 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.880 guide Rory onto Harvard or onto Yale. And Trixie wanted 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.680 to get her to go to Yale, but Lemily wants 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.680 to her to go to Harvard Um. So you know, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.000 that's kind of what we're dealing with this in that episode. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.840 But we've never seen Emily, you know, on the hot 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:16.880 seat like this, I mean, just so out of her 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:21.200 element in her own home. And that woman what a presence? 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.560 I mean is that cheese? Do you want me to 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.880 eat that cheese? Am I supposed to eat that cheese? 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.239 I mean? How do you even deal to woman? And 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.600 and then she's like, am I supposed to eat these 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.000 spice nuts? Out of my hand? Wait? Riley. Should you 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.200 should we give Riley a chance to do the tricks voice? 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.079 Oh yes, yes, yes, said Riley. T We teet it 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.160 up for you. Let's see what you can do. Let's 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.720 see what you get there with the voice. Go ahead, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.000 because you're you know, you're the impressionist and the crew 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.880 here go ahead. Yeah, she's so good. You far exceeded 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.240 expectations with the muppet thing. Let's go. Let's see if 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.520 you can do Marion Ross this tricks? Go ahead? Should 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:04.040 I eat spice nuts out of my hands? What? Horrible? 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:09.160 That's not gonna Scott did it way better? Going to work? What? 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.640 What was that? A little German? I was trying to 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:19.800 put an English accident on there. She's fancy, she talks, Yeah, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:28.880 she talks fancy. Yeah, don't bring my work. Let's see 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.679 that's where that's right in your wheelhouse right there. Maybe 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.800 we should stick with cartoon characters or muppet characters for Riley, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.760 because that's where you live. One more try before we 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.040 give up on you. One more shot at maryon Ross. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.960 Go ahead? Do I eat these spice nuts out of 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:50.800 my hands? The he was that? What is happening makes sense? 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.960 Makes no sense? What you just got you kind of 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.520 nailed it is that I can't. I can't do them 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.960 sort of you know, loose impressions. I can't nail people's voice, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.800 but I can do I can do different accents. Should 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.400 I eat these nuts out of my hand? And sky? 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:12.440 What am I supposed to do? Oh? My god? I 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:18.240 mean the iconic Marion Ross. Do you remember her being around? 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.440 I wasn't in this episode. I know, but I wasn't. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:27.520 There must have been around. No, No, on days, I'm 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.560 not working, I'm not hanging around the set. I'm just 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.240 showing off the mountains somewhere skiing. I'm like celebrating having 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.120 a couple of days off in a row. I mean, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.440 I think it's the only episode that I wasn't in 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.000 didn't work and people are like, what are you doing here? Dude? 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.480 Just like yeah, they would be, it's like why are 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.200 you here? What do you do? What you're here doing? 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.160 Pr because no, that didn't includes you in that, so 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.719 why are you here? That was pretty iconic though, because 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.200 I noticed she got special guest star status. She was 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.240 a special guest and I mean she is Mrs kind Am. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.840 It's like even this many years later, I mean, Happy 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.479 Days was in the seventies and this so that's what 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.760 fifty years And to me, she's just immediately, oh that's 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.679 MRS's Mrs c. She's got those classical chops, she's got 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.039 you know, that Shakespeare coming out of her, and she's 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.240 just you know, laying down some serious attitude on how 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:29.720 how can anybody make Emily look vulnerable or even sympathetic? Right? 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.760 And great point and and Marian did it like in spades, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.200 because didn't you all kind of feel for her? Poor 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.960 Emily just getting like just ripped apart, pillar to post 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.160 and everything. She came out of her mouth right from 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.000 the moment Richard reveals she's coming, you see Emily like, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.400 oh God, and then the down to the basement to 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.360 get all the crap that she's given them to put 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.719 all over. I mean, immediately you're like, oh wow, she 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.080 does not like this, Like, why does she all of 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.800 a sudden care so much. She's Emily Gilmore, she's married 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:10.120 to Richard Gilmore. Why on earth is she so fututst 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:15.240 here's another word, fututt about Marian coming to town. Why 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.680 does she care so much? Because she loves Richard and 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.919 Richard worships her. What this is a woman who's in 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.560 her late sixties right in the show, she's in her 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.200 late sixties, you have right at that point in her life, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.440 at her station in life with her husband of you know, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.560 fifty years, what have you? Why does she give a 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.560 rats you know what about what is mother thinks? And 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.640 to the point where she's freaking out. I want I 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.440 want somebody to give me an answer. Why does she 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.920 care so much that she's so freaked out mother in laws? 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.400 But why at her age is she still but is 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.760 she still seeking approval to the point where she feels 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.479 she's not going to get it. So she's nervous and 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.120 she's agitated and she doesn't want the the stress. Why 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:07.279 can't she just be herself? Mother in laws? What control? Okay, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.560 so the question is what controlled does Marion Ross have 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:17.320 over Richard and Emily's marriage? What does Emily have to 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.680 gain from? And I hate to even go here, but 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.320 I mean it might answer help answer the question, um, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:29.480 what does Emily have to gain from the demise of 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.120 the third Laurel life? Would will Richard be getting a 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.440 boatload of money that you know that Emily is afraid 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.280 she's going to miss out on if Richard, who so 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.840 you know, controlled by his own mother, uh, decides to 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.760 divorce her. So, I mean, what does she say. I 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.320 don't think it's I don't think it's money. I think 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.680 Emily wants her mother in law to like her. Everyone 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.680 wants their mother in law to like them, especially when 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:00.560 their husband has that close bond. But she's in her 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.560 late sixties, she's only what does she should find sixty yet? 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.440 But it's out of character for Emily. Why does she 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.560 give a damn mother in law? Why can't she stand 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.040 up to her and say, you know, because you can? 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.080 I mean, okay, what how do you How well do 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.360 you get along with your mother in law? Talk about it? 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:24.640 Mother in laws are stressful that I get along very 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.360 well with my mother in law. She's a very sweet woman. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.800 Well you're you're lucky because the tricks isn't sweet. So 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.560 Emily has that stress and pressure and Richard is a 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.120 mama's boy. But I've okay, So I've been in situations 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.240 like this where you know you're a certain age and 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.000 you just you don't give it damn. So I kind 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.439 of give it damn if you like me or not. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.360 So you just you know, you the question is why 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.160 is Emily who is so comfortable inside her own skin 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.680 and so herself, right, I mean that's Emily full bore 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.120 all the time what you're seeing, and now all of 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.240 a sudden she's melting down because it's, you know, in 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.160 her late sixties. Then you know Tricks is coming to town, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.720 and who cares? Now if she was a younger woman, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.520 If she was a younger woman, I can, and she 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.680 could the way she sort of Emily wears the pants 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.800 in that family, all of a sudden she's not wearing 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:27.840 the pants anymore, right, right, No, you're making excellence. Somebody 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.800 needs to explain this to me. I don't I don't 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.319 get it. I don't think you. I think you're summing 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.559 it up perfectly, though you're analyzing it perfectly. Emily, who's 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:43.120 tough and you know, controls everything. Now there's somebody that 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:48.000 has superiority over her and she's freaking out. And we 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280 see this play out as we'll talk to about the money. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.840 I don't think it's Emily uh worried about missing out 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.960 on a on a on a will, a piece of 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.160 her fortune or whatever it is, because it does isn't 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.400 seem like she's she's that well off. If she's only gonna, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.240 you know, give Rory a hundred thousand dollars, two hundred 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.040 quarter million dollars, not that much money. It's a lot 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.720 of money, but it's not that much money for for 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.680 people at that level, you know. And if you're gonna 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.680 take care of your granddaughter and you're worth a boatload, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.600 you're gonna do better than two hundred fifty dollars. Yeah. No, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.760 you're right. It's not the She came all the way. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.160 She came all the way from New York, I mean, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.679 all the way from London to Hartford to set up 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.240 a trust, and I mean, I mean that was her 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.959 purpose of coming. So anyway, I don't get it. I'm sorry, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:38.079 I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.480 get why Emily is she's losing her mind and why 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:50.440 you're Emily Gilmore. I'm gonna shut up now. There's a 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.640 lot to break down, because the money brings power and control, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:59.240 and if if Lore like gives Rory that money, Emily 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:03.400 loses that power of the Friday night dinner. But she's 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.959 not anticipating that. She was freaked out that Tricks was 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.720 coming before she knew about true You're right, that's a 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.640 great point. So why is she so damn freaked out? 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.720 It's a mother in law thing. And I think they 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.719 both want to be number one. They want both want 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.679 to be number one in Richard's life. And he loves 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.959 his mom, but he also loves Emily, and they both 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.480 want to be the number one spot. What a weird dynamic, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.439 What a very strange dynamic. My god, I have experience 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.960 with this dynamic. I've seen this dynamic before. It's very 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.440 odd and common when a mother when when when a 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.880 mother holds sway over a son, even you know, when 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.720 her son is in his fifties and sixties. I mean, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:55.520 it's just very weird. Um, And at a certain level, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.960 it's endearing, right, it's kind of sweet. But Jesus to 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.960 rule over uh, you know, maybe I think she maybe 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:08.080 sees it as her responsibility as the matriarch um in 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.840 this sort of dynasty she has in her about the 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:20.680 guild works or something um. But you know, maybe we 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:26.120 just needed a little more background on tricks. You know, 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.520 maybe if they built her up a little more into 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.679 being this. You know, she's a billionaire, she's one of 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.080 the most influential people in the world. You know, she 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.679 can ruin your life, she can make your life miserable. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.120 If she doesn't like it this kind of a thing, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.280 then I can see Emily being nervous. Right, So we 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.280 have to please this woman, not because of this way 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.120 she holds over Richard, but she's a very powerful person. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.480 I'm not getting that from what I'm saying, But anyway, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:53.200 that's just the question I have to ask. And I 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.720 think we could use a little muppet, a little muppet 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.280 in the discussion. How about a little muppet clip? Don't 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:08.319 bring on my current word? I think I've ever heard 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.920 you know what I want to do, Riley, I swear 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.280 to God, I want to put that on my next album. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.840 I want to put that clip on my next record. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.760 I wanted to be either at the very beginning of 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.160 it or at the very end. It's like at the 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.040 end of some Beatles songs. In the White Album, John 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.960 Lennon screams out, I got blisters on my fingers. That 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.240 could be my I got blisters on my fingers onto 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.920 my next record. Okay, promise me, promise me, you'll let 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.920 me use that clip. Don't bring on my current word. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:45.560 I'm mortified and honored all at the same time, that's 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:51.600 the most brilliant thing I've ever heard. Oh man, man, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.800 you're getting down with that in my impression, and they're 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.200 just getting down. So anyway, you know, I'm gonna calm 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.560 down a little bit. I'm gonna stop asking question because 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.280 I just want to go along and be a shape 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.640 um Riley, why don't you bring us in With the 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.760 synopsis of the episode of The Third Laurel. This is 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.880 episode eighteen the Third Lorelie air date March two. One. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.120 Laurels paternal grandmother arrives from England and stresses Emily out 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.760 in a big way. Everybody. Uh well, that was quite 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.200 a discussion anyway, So listen, we gotta take a little break. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.040 But guess who's coming up. The one and only Third 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.440 Laureli herself, her own self in the flesh, Marion Ross 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:38.840 coming to you from her tower on high, her castle, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:45.120 her perchase, her lofty elevated space. The one and only 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.320 Marion Ross is coming to visit us here at our little, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.520 humble little show. And we're very, very excited. So let's 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.520 take a little break and we'll be right back with 0:14:54.600 --> 0:15:07.480 Marion Ross. Yeah. Hey, guys, it's Jana Kramer. The I 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.760 Heart Radio Music Festival is back. Join us for the 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.480 official I Heart Radio Music Festival pre Show podcast hosted 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.600 by me Jana Kramer. 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Um, we're gonna We're gonna 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.680 talk to Marion Ross in a second. I'm very excited 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.920 about it. I want to know why, you know. What 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.440 I want to know most first and foremost is why, Richard. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.960 And I hate to say this, and I know it's 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.520 probably gonna get edited out. But why is he acting 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:27.280 like such a little you know, because it's like it's 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.840 like if if if if my and my if my 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.240 wife is getting what for from my mom, no matter 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.320 how much I'm obsessed with my own mommy, At a 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.800 certain point, I'm gonna say, you know, I mean, Richard 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.960 didn't even give us a mother. Don't talk to Emily 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.080 that way. I mean, you know what I mean. There 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.080 was none of that. There was nothing. He was just 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.280 like smiling the whole time, you know. So I saw 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.240 him as a little kid, like on his little on 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.720 his little bicycles, beaming up with his mother. You know. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.800 The the guy at the corner store says, your son 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.000 came in here and destroyed my entire candy display, and 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.160 I want you I want the money now. And then 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.320 Marion Ross is a younger woman going, how dare you 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.000 raise your voice to make it out of this house 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.320 before I have you thrown out? And Richard just sitting 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.840 there and blowing all these bubbles, just smiling at the 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:26.400 guy sitting there going yeah, ye accurate. But why why 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.359 why is mama's boy he's a mama's boy. Why is 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.359 he all of us? It's like he's married to his 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.560 mother and like, yeah, let's just you know Mom's tricks 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.800 is having a good time with Emily, like being a 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:43.560 total heel to her anything. Yeah, I mean, come on, man, 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.040 no wonder Emily is so angry and uptight. You know, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.960 I wouldn't want to be around that either, because it's 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.359 not just she's got to deal with She's she's gonna 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.040 deal with third Laurel. I, she's gotta deal with her 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.560 husband act like a jackass. You know. It's like you 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.840 nailed that. That is spot on. I'm just looking. This 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.120 is just what I see. Hate me if you all 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.320 you want, you know, I'm I'm not trying to tear 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.359 apart the show. I just logically, it makes no damn 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.680 sense to me. See that. That's the only part I disagree. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.040 It makes perfect sense to me. Mama's boy, she's got 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:27.200 mother in law stress. It literally seems just exactly how 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.879 you would think it would go. So Emily is hanging 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.400 on by a thread. No, and she's married to some weak, 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:39.040 need whipped mama's boy, right, and she's just hanging in 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.239 there for the money, right. I think she's like, oh, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.919 you know, I can't blow this. I don't think it 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:45.680 has to do with the money. I think she just 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:51.000 wants the approval from Tricks. She wants Tricks to like her. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.240 That's why she's running around getting spice nuts and putting 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.680 that coat rack out, and the weird all the weird 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.600 gifts and the rug and the carrying stuff up and 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.800 down into Ah, just helicoptering like I want this woman 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.400 to like me. If my grandmother, if my father's mother 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.040 had treated my mother that way and talked to her 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.720 that way about like, you know, we're not having desert. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.920 I've visited villages in Cambodia where I didn't have dessert either, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.320 and you know, I mean, all these great lines and 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.439 there's no response. My mother would have punched her in 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.400 the teeth. Here's what we haven't talked about yet. Emily 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:27.520 puts up with it all until it threatens her relationship 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.000 with Laura, Lee and Rory, and then she says, Richard, 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.320 you need to handle this like you. We cannot have 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.040 Tricks giving this money because it will ruin everything we've 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.919 just finally gotten back. But Richard doesn't handle it. I 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.320 think he did. He didn't. How did he? How How 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.960 did he? How did he handle it? I feel like 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.400 that scene where they're having tea and then she decides 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.800 not to give the money. You think Richard had to 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.040 talk with her. And on top of that, she heard 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.560 she overheard Laura Lae and Emily arguing about it. Correct. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.439 I think I think deep down Tricks is a super 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.520 decent woman and she is super smart. So she realized, uh, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.120 this is causing problems. I'm not going to let them 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.760 know that I actually have a warm heart, but I'm 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.719 gonna I'm gonna fix this because that's a scene that 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.840 would have been a scene that would have been written, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.600 and what a scene it would have been between you know, 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.600 Mama's boy and Mama. Right, Why didn't we get the scene? 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.640 Because I think we're supposed to. And again, you could 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.960 be right that it was just that she overheard the conversation. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.080 But I feel like Tricks isn't going to ever let 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:43.159 her guard down for anyone to realize. But inherently she 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:48.200 believes in family, and she realized, Okay, wait, I'm screwing 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.680 up this secession that I have that matters to me, 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.360 and I'm not going to have that happen because the bloodline, 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.760 the succession is more important than in me giving Ry 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:07.360 this money. Now, maybe it's it's the fact that I think, 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.480 maybe it's the fact, maybe I'm just outside possibility. Maybe 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.159 it's the fact that, uh, Emily, I'm sorry, Marion Ross 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:22.359 feels threatened by Emily for and they're in competition for 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:30.000 the affections of and he's my boy. Maybe he's probably 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.480 an only child if he's behaving this way. I mean, 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.439 I can't imagine he has brothers and sisters. Not to 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.919 not to trash only children, but I mean they have 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:42.639 a very very close special bond with one or both parents, um, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.080 even to the point where it can be debilitating. And 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.480 I think we're seeing evidence of that because Richards just 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:53.119 sitting there with his drink going when when Tricks has 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.960 just taken apart Emily, she's just she's being You can't 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:01.600 be meaner or more condescending to another human being. Then 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.760 what we what we witnessed in that episode. I mean 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.400 she just takes her apart. I mean no, I mean 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:13.000 that was no respect towards Emily. That was just utter 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.159 hostility and everything she said to her, Yeah, which is 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.280 exactly what you would expect of a mother in law 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:26.320 in that situation. Wealthy and privileged to the daughter in law. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.600 It's like the mother in laws are notorious meme in 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.240 quotes to the daughter in law Richard step in Man, 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.320 and like, you know, it's like a prize fight. You 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.439 gotta the ref's gotta step in and warn the person 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.720 that's like doing the cheap shots. Like you do that again. 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.280 I'm taking a point away from you. You know what. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.840 I think Richard's just oblivious to it. He doesn't care. 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.199 He's so like into his mom, and you know, he 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.680 knows he loves Emily, so it just didn't matter to him. 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.800 So like, yeah, let me escort you to the dining room, 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.160 even though it's seven oh five or five minutes late. 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.640 Like he's a he's a snooty, is what he is? 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:06.520 Good God, really, that's your wife, you know what, Listen, 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.440 I'm not I'm not talking about ed Herman personally, who 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.119 I have such a deep respect for. It's it's really 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.600 you know, listen. I went to college to UH to 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.240 get a degree in complet and it's what I'm trying 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:23.919 to do. It's what my brain does. It's where I 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.840 go when I break things down. I analyze character, I 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:31.959 analyze narrative, I analyze storylines, and um, you know, I've 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.040 written a bunch of screenplays. I'm not saying I'm the 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.800 best writer in the world, but I am a pretty 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:41.800 good structuralist and I kind of know the craft. And 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.840 and so when I see these these things that stick 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.080 out to me, I I want to point them out 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.800 to our audience and I'm I really it's for me. 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.919 It's educational in that of course it's the first time 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.920 I've seen it, so it's kind of you know, it's 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.920 it's virgin territory for me, and it's shocking to me. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.399 And I want to would be able to express that. 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.240 I'm not trying to offend anybody, Okay, I'm really really not. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.960 I'm just I'm trying to open up my own eyes 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.000 while maybe opening up a few other eyes in the 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.400 audience and getting a debate going, because this is kind of, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:14.960 you know, this is how I really see it, and 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.080 I'm not gonna you know, this is my unfiltered self. 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.639 And I mean, if you compare it to you know, 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.800