1 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a great Easter weekend and had 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: a great time with their family celebrating passover. I got 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: to tell you, there is so much going on. Our 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: heads are spinning here. You know what's really fascinating, though, 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: look up the history of Diego Garcia. Right. It's in 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: the middle of the Indian Ocean, part of the archipelago, 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: Chagos Archipelago, and you know it's owned by the British. 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: They lease it to the United States Navy and Air Force. 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I believe in other logistical efforts. We got six B 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: two bombers there apparently, and we've got B one b's 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: there and it's just a really important strategic location. It's 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: pretty incredible and things are really gearing up, and I 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: ran here. I wanted to get to a quick story though. 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: Here on Long Island, at Massapiko Park, there is you know, 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: because New York State is crazy and the Board of 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Education at the state level made it. You know, you 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: can't use Indian mascots anymore for your schools, and there's pushback. 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Massapeakle Park is one of them. Their symbol is a 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: taka pusha Indian and it's you know, controversy, but it was, 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: it became it was their symbol for like sixty years 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: or so, for a long time. But it was an 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: honor of excellence, it was an honor of the American Indian. 24 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: It's not an insult. And the state Education Board banned 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: any names that are Indian related, and the Massapico School 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: District pushed back and dismissed the district's case. But Trump 27 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: we reached out recently and weighed in on the issue. 28 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. Now, this seal on 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the screen here. By the way, my mother seventy years ago, 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: almost when she was thirteen years old, designed the logo 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: for the village of Massapequa Park. It's where a lot 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: of cops and firefighters commute to Manhattan from. It's a 33 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: working class community. It's a great place to live. But 34 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: she won that art contest when she was thirteen, and 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the village of Massapequa Park adopted it as the village seal. 36 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Just a little trivia there for you, but that's a 37 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: tackle pusha Indian in the logo and my mother drew 38 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: that in honor of, you know, the Indian tribes that 39 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: inhabited Long Island before the settlers came here in the 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen hundreds. So you know, what's going on is 41 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: really crazy here. Everybody's like going hinged. And you know, 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: even like the Cleveland Indians. You know, they were named 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: for one of their players who was a Panop Scott Indian. 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Lewis scalexis a twenty six year old member of the 45 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Panop Scott tribe I think in Maine. He was the 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: first Native American Major League baseball player in eighteen ninety seven, 47 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and he played for the Cleveland Spiders, and the Cleveland 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Spiders changed their name for him to the Cleveland Indians. 49 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: And then they go in like twenty and twenty one 50 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: because there are a bunch of idiots and change the 51 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: name to Guardians. What are the Guardians of the Galaxy? 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Who cares about the Guardians? The Cleveland Indians. Nobody thought 53 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: it was an insult to the Indians. It was an 54 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: honor of a great player, a great man. You think 55 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: they want to, you know, you know, lift that up 56 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: and honor it. But instead they caved to the vicious 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: left here. It's really nuts. I wanted to get to 58 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: a little flashback moment for you guys. I spent a 59 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: lot of time covering you know, one hundred plus Trump 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: rallies around the country. Here and I have this. I 61 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: ran across Wilmington, North Carolina rally I did a year 62 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and a half ago about and this is a flashback 63 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: from the campaign trail and explain why Trump got elected. 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Democrats crossed over to vote firm. Check out this clip again, 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: testify right, I can do. What do you want to 66 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: testify about today? 67 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm originally from Kentucky. I've been here in North Carolina 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: for three years. And even in twenty sixteen, when I 69 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: was still a Democrat, I voted for Trump. 70 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I voted for him a twenty sixteen you voted for Trump? 71 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I voted for him again. 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: The last time did you decide you couldn't take the 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Obama administration? 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: It's everything was just crazy. And when Trump got in, 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: everything got so much better, the economy and everything. And 76 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: I went to the store the other day and I 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 2: was going to buy a pack of Wieners to grill 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: out eight dollars. 79 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: So it's not your father's Democratic Party right anymore? 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: No? 81 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: No, And where do you live? 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: I live in Wilmington. 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: What were you going to say? 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: They they would crucify Kennedy if he were alive today 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: in present they would. 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: They're crucifying RFK a Democrat. There you go, There you go, 87 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: absolutely secret Service protection trying to get them thrown off 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: the ballot. 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing I would not put past the Democrats at 90 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: this point. 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: So the Democrat the Republicans had sixteen candidates in twenty sixteen, 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: last time, in twenty twenty, I mean, and a ton 93 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: of candidates this year. Why can't the Democrats allow other 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: candidates on the ballot with them? 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: They're right, they don't have anything to run on. 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: So who's stealing democracy? 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: Democrats? 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: But they say Trump is Is Trump doing that? Oh gosh? 99 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: You know, if Trump does not win this common election, 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: we're done America, as we know what is done. And 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: I've already made arrangements. If Trump doesn't win, I'm leaving 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the country. 103 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm out of there now. 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 5: You know. 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite moments in my life is 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: interviewing the great people across America. You know, the hard 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: working people, and that's the demographic that elected Trump, along 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: with the young people. Can't pursue the America dream paying 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: off loans until they're forty for college. You can't buy 110 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: a house even if they make one hundred plus dollars 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: and dollars a year. And you know, young people who 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: necessarily weren't MAGA came out like a North Carolina and 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: put Trump in office, and he won wins in all 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: seven swing states because of it. I wanted to talk 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: about Earth Day for a moment here. You know, my 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: birthday is on Earth Day, which was April twenty second, 117 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and it was formed the birth day in nineteen seventy 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: by Richard Nixon while he was president. So I was 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: born on the first day of Earth Day in nineteen seventy. 120 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: Now I'm a builder go figure, But Gaylord Nelson was 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: a Democratic Senator of Wisconsin. He's considered to be the 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: father of Earth Day movement, but Nixon proclaimed it in 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy after a huge California oil spill. But I 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: just wanted to say, you know, out of that came 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: some good things, right, the Clean Water Act, which Nixon 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: vetoed by the way he was overridden by Congress. The 127 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Clean Water Act had significant benefits, and they also started 128 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: the EPA out of that. The good part of it 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: is that you know, New York Harbor, which was filled 130 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: with rows, sewage and everything, is a much cleaner waterway 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: today because of the Clean Water Act, and the Clean 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Water Act doesn't allow sewage, human waste, and other toxic 133 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: chemicals to be put into the waterways. So it has 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: a great purpose and it accomplished a lot. And the 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: EPA does a lot of good things like protecting the 136 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: wetlands and stuff like that. Now I have big issues 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: with the EPA of the past, and thank god Les 138 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Elden's in there because I think he's making some important 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: changes that you know, if they're going to take your property, 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: they don't always honor the fifth Amendment of the Constitution 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: for a public taking for fair compensation at market rates, 142 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, and they devalue your property and then they 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of steal it, you know. And then the EPA 144 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: was doing things like for a builder, there would be 145 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: like a pile puddle of water on a property and 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: they were calling it a kettle hole or wetlands, which 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: was crazy too. So thank god Lee's Elden is cutting 148 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: red tape, just like Trump did in his first term 149 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: in the EPA. But the Clean Water Actor was a 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: very important part of American history here. And you know, 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: but you got you got PBS. You know, they're airing 152 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: a special with Ali Rogan and interviewing a modulat a 153 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Jossa talking about environmental justice. And you know that, you know, 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: our policy is racist when it comes to the environment 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: and all this other nonsense. And Leez elden weide in 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: and said, environmental justice sounds like a good idea, but 157 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: in reality it's been used primarily as an excuse to 158 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: fun left wing activism instead of spending money on actual 159 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: remediation on environmental problems. And you know, like MRC NewsBusters 160 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: points out, which is a great website, you got to 161 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: go to the NewsBusters. They point out that PBS set 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety that the Earth only had ten 163 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: years left to respond to global warming, where there would 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: be enormous calamities. Well we're thirty five years later and 165 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that's not the case. There are weather events and and 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, but you've got to remember increased weather events 167 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: combined with more impervious surface. There's more developed land in 168 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the United States, so when these storms happen to there's 169 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: going to be more damage. There's going to be more flooding, 170 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be more loss of life, there's no 171 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: way for the water to go, you know, So it's 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: a mix, it's a mix of both to be fair. 173 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I just wanted to point that out 174 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: about you know, Richard Nixon was actually an environmentalist in 175 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and without him, we wouldn't have had, 176 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, some environmental controls that do protect our you know, environment. 177 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: But it also has to be fair and it can't 178 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: be an obstruction to you know, legal development that complies 179 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: with code, and it can't be used as a tool 180 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: to steal people's land. And there's a lot of Supreme 181 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Court decisions Love Ladies Harbor Lucas versus State South Carolina. 182 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: And I've been working with this type of stuff for 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: about thirty seven years. And the discharge extraction permits that 184 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: are across the United States do protect the waterways from 185 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: dumping pollutants into the waterwage you can dump for us SEWA. 186 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: It has to be treated first before it gets released 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: back into the Groundwater percolates back through the soil and 188 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: recharges us to be clean drinking water. Again, it's very important, 189 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: but any takings have to be at fair compensation, and 190 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: so I got a great show for you today. I've 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff on the tariffs here and 192 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: we're going to be back with more. And I just 193 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: want to thank everybody for joining us, watching us, joining 194 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: the Raft family. Get on the chat. You can watch 195 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: us on Facebook. You can watch us on Rumble. Go 196 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: to the Getter Chat. At Real am Voice. You're watching 197 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Breaking Point on Real Americans Voice News. And now we 198 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: have a message from Birch Gold. Thank you again. 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Text the word America to 215 00:11:44,120 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight today. Hey, welcome back everyone. 216 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. I 217 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: hope you had a wonderful Easter. I had a great 218 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: time with my family and my grandkids, and we cooked 219 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: for an army a big eighteen pound leg of lamb, 220 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,359 Speaker 1: some homemade fetccini alfredo the real way, which is unbelievable. 221 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed the holiday with your family. 222 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Right now, there's a lot going on across the country 223 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: as races start to heat up. Primaries next year, elections 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: next year for Congress, some Senate races. Can the Congress 225 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: keep it red? But there's some hot governors races, gubernatorial 226 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: races around the country, and one of them is going 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: to be for Tim It's seat in the great state 228 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. And we have a candidate running for a 229 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota governor with us. Right now, welcome to the show, 230 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Brad Cohler, how. 231 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: Are you, thanks, David, How are you, sir? 232 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm great. So we've been talking for a 233 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: couple of days here, and you have an incredible story 234 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and you're running for governor. Why are you running for governor? 235 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's a lot going on here in 236 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 6: this state that's going in the wrong direction, and you 237 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: know what they say when things go wrong, don't. 238 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 5: Go with them. 239 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: So I decided to jump in make try to make 240 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: a difference rather than talk about it. I'm not one 241 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 6: of those people who'd like to, you know, just sit 242 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 6: there and complain about things. 243 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: I'm I'm a doer and so I've been I've been. 244 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 6: Learning the politics of the politics for the past four 245 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 6: years now, and my team and I are ready to 246 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 6: jump in and take over and make a difference here 247 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 6: in Minnesota. 248 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Sure, now, Brad, you're you're a UFC fighter, you're a 249 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: professional fighter. You were a state wrestling champ in your 250 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: high school and opposing high school was Jim Jordan, right 251 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: when you were when you're in your youth correct, Well. 252 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: Jim Jordan and I graduated the same year. We're both 253 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 5: state champions. 254 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: I unfortunately was in the higher division and then much 255 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 6: bigger brackets than the lower division. 256 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: So we were division one. He was Division two. 257 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 6: But he was an incredible wrestler, four time state champion, 258 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 6: All American. Jim Jordans the hell of a man, lettone Congressman. 259 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 6: I admire him a lot. 260 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Now they call you the godfather of MMA in Minnesota. 261 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: You might have that in common with Trump in the 262 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: sense that Trump saved MMA and UFC when New York 263 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: City wouldn't allow the venue and used his casinos in 264 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: Atlantic City to host. 265 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: Right, that is correct, and thank God for Donald Trump. 266 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 6: And so yeah, I was in the UFC and came here, 267 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: wanted to bring the sport to Minnesota when I was 268 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: banned in many states, went before city councils, went before 269 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 6: the city halls, and got to legalized in many in 270 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 6: many of the cities, and put on over two hundred 271 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 6: shows here in Minnesota. 272 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So you have an incredible story. You were telling me. 273 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: You were injured in a ultra light accident, you got 274 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: impelled in part of the plane. You lived in Japan, 275 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: and you had some legal problems you but you've sent 276 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: straightened out your life. Tell us about it. So our 277 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: audience gets to know you. 278 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, long story shorts. 279 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 6: You know, I went through a short period of time 280 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: where things were I just didn't protect myself from myself 281 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: and one of those things when you get to a 282 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 6: position of you know, you're on the top of the 283 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 6: top of the world, on the biggest stage in the world, 284 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: and some people do stupid things. 285 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: I didn't protect myself for myself and was around the wrong. 286 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 6: People, and you know, ended up in making some bad decisions, 287 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 6: although my decisions that were made really were you know, 288 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 6: long story, it's in my book. I wrote a book 289 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 6: about the whole thing called A Build for This. It's 290 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 6: on Amazon, also on my website at Bradcora dot com, 291 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: and you know, trying to get that story out there 292 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 6: about how our justice system is really upside down, how 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 6: it really does affect people's lives in the wrong way 294 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 6: in some cases. 295 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: Right, But those legal troubles are in your past, and 296 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I know we spoke, you know, frankly about it. But 297 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: you're a fighter and you're going to fight from Minnesotan's right, 298 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: what what kind of damage is Tim Waltz doing to 299 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the people in Minnesota? And what will you change? 300 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we're not talking about the spawn of Satan. 301 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 6: This is this is Satan, and this is the guy 302 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: that changed the flag without. 303 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: Voting on it, this, that, and the other. 304 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: He changed a flag in a state sealed Minnesota without 305 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: any knowledge of the of the people of Minnesota. 306 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: And if he moves up any hiring government, he'll change 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: the American flag too. 308 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: This is a guy that wants to have an abortion 309 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 6: five minutes up to five minutes after death. This is 310 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: a guy raising our taxes through the roof. Nobody can 311 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 6: afford to live here anymore. Businesses are leaving. He's got 312 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 6: the red flag up for immigration. He's three times over 313 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: the forecast and living for immigration here and now with 314 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: a given free healthcare one hundredercent healthcare too, over seventeen 315 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 6: thousand immigrations. And they've just took away a billion dollars 316 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 6: from our senior citizens veterans here. 317 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous. 318 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're a businessman, you don't like high taxes, 319 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur. Tell us about your business career. I 320 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: know you're in the restaurant business, I believe, And how 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: does that reflect with the devastating George Floyd riots. When 322 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: Tim Waltz was governor. So what do you share with 323 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: your constituency and your small business owners in common? 324 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 6: Well, the fact that they had the police stand down, 325 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 6: that did not stand by the police is ridiculous. Some 326 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: of the things that happened here in Minnesota. It wasn't 327 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 6: just George Floyd and the police. There were many businesses 328 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 6: and people died, you know, and Tim Wallas is responsible 329 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 6: for ground zero of many cities being destroyed. This man 330 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: needs to be incarcerated and punished. In business here, we 331 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 6: certainly do the best we can, but the texts are 332 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: just way too high and through the roof. 333 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you're also telling me that Kim Potter 334 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: who accidentally shot the driver who wasn't complying with her 335 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: gun instead of her taser. She's a neighbor of yours, right, 336 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: you were talking about that and tell us about that. 337 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I was I was for the police 338 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: being you know, seeing due process. 339 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 5: But they have a very tough job and we need 340 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 5: to support the police. 341 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 6: We're talking about pulling over criminals, we're talking about you know, 342 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 6: not that I think anyone should be shot or killed, 343 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 6: but you know, I'm sorry to say this, but negative 344 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 6: actions bring negative results. If you comply with the police officers, 345 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 6: they're more than cool, they're more than a human to 346 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 6: respond to you in a in a play way. But 347 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 6: if you provoke them, you know they want to go 348 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: home to their families as well. And I want to 349 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 6: make sure that that happens as the next governor here. 350 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota is similar to New York. We have a 351 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: bill pending right now social justice reform. Cops will not 352 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: be allowed to pull over people anymore and execute their job. 353 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I always told my kids ten and 354 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: two on the wheel, don't get out of your car, 355 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: don't create a confrontation. You're already getting off on the 356 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: wrong foot, and you're you're setting it up for a 357 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: potential disaster. I think there's a lot of disrespect going 358 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: on out there. Not that that's a reason somebody should 359 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: be killed necessarily, but you know, definitely the situations escalate, 360 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I believe. Tell us about what you You had a 361 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: large contract for fighting in Japan with the UFC. Is 362 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: that what happened? 363 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 5: Actually? 364 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 6: Now the UFC, I fought over there for Rings and 365 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 6: Pride and so the King of Kings, and then I 366 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 6: had pro wrestling contracts as well, so I did quite 367 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 6: a bit in the athletic world. Luckily I'm still pretty 368 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 6: healthy blessed that way, but had a great time. I 369 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 6: love the UFC. One of the first things I'd like 370 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 6: to do is bring Dana White in the UFC back 371 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 6: to Minnesota because our liberal boxing commission here is the 372 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 6: worst in the world. 373 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 5: I'm sure he can tell you that himself. 374 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Wow, crazy, Now you had this ultra light accident. Tell 375 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: us about what kind of damage was done to you. 376 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 5: Well, I was on takeoff. 377 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: I've been flying for years since I was sixteen, and 378 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 6: just one of those incidents, I was about ninety feet up. 379 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 5: The exhaust pipe cracked and I lost power. 380 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: Came down pretty hard as the small aluminum poles that 381 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 6: hold the small aircraft together like ten poles snapped in 382 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: the front that held the engine. It snapped and pailed me. 383 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 6: The prop almost cut my knee off and it took 384 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 6: me quite a while to recover from that. But I 385 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 6: was actually in a fight contract for three fights in 386 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 6: Japan that this is what started the demise of my 387 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 6: life back then where things happened because I ended up 388 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 6: getting hiked on fentanyl and just wasn't aware of what 389 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: was going on prescription fentanyl, by the way, and so 390 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 6: it took me a long time to even start walking, 391 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 6: let alone working out again. Although doctor said I would 392 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: never fight again, I came back and fight. Fought in 393 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: twenty twelve when I was forty seven years old. 394 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: Okay, we have about a minute and a half left, 395 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: two minutes. Tell me in a nutshell about the Minnesota GOP. 396 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, I dealt a lot in the Blue Wall States. 397 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I was in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota. I must have been 398 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: to the just those three states fifteen times during the 399 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Trump campaign. A lot of big schism in the GOP. 400 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: Are they maga? So did the GOP. 401 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: They're really not mega? You know I am, but they 402 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 5: are not. 403 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: And that's one of the problems that we have here 404 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: when we have that Republican officials, not the current chairs, 405 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 6: but the previous chair with a congressman hiring consultants to 406 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 6: raise money to pay Democrats to beat our own Republicans, 407 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 6: that's when we have a problem. 408 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 5: Right now, we have new chair involved. His name is 409 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: Alic Pleckish. I beelve. 410 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 6: He's a good man. I have faith in him, and 411 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 6: I think he's a former military guy. I think he's 412 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 6: going to turn things around, but he's gonna need more time. 413 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: He's gonna need a lot of help. 414 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay, tell our viewers the name of your book, where 415 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: they can buy it, and where can they follow you 416 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: on your campaign trail. 417 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 6: Bradcoler dot com is where you get my books right here. 418 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: It's called Built for This. I'm sorry about the blur. 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 5: It's called Built for This by Brad Cohler. 420 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 6: And it is about about my life and the trials 421 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: and tribulations and how I got to the governor's race here, 422 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 6: and you can follow me on social. 423 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: Media X getter of course, Facebook and Instagram. 424 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, Brad, I want to thank you for coming 425 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: on here. We're gonna follow this race closely and maybe 426 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: there'll be a primary next year. But you know, keep 427 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: up your fight and I like the message, so we'll 428 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: have you back as things go on. 429 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 5: Okay, David, God bless you and Glad bless America. 430 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Brad. Everybody. When we come back, 431 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: I've got more great stuff for you. I want to 432 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: thank you for watching. I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking 433 00:23:37,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: Point on Real America's Voice News. Don't go anywhere, Hi, everybody, 434 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: welcome back. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 435 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: The tariffs, it's on the top of everybody's minds. We'll 436 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: see what countries come to the table. We'll see what 437 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: happens with China. But you know, we definitely want more 438 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: manufacturing in the United States and here to discuss that, 439 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: maybe some limitations on that and other issues relating to 440 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: the tariffs. I have John Lee with us. He's a 441 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: toy industry expert. John, Welcome to the show. 442 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 7: I'm happy to be here, David, thanks for inviting me. 443 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Great great to meet you and your claim to fame. 444 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: As you were Thomas the tank engine right. 445 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if I was Tom, but he 446 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 7: was a friend of mine, so I know I had 447 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 7: a partnership with the Thomas Enterprise back when I started 448 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 7: my toy company and had a license to produce what 449 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 7: became the centerpiece of the Thomas brand, the Thomas Wooden 450 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 7: train system. Yeah, and a bunch of other things. So yeah, 451 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 7: I'm Thomas and I are good buddies, Okay. 452 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: So I know a lot of things are going to 453 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: be impacted if there's no agreement reached with China, and 454 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: I want to discuss with you. You know, do we 455 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: have a sophisticated enough supply chain to address shortfalls on 456 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: components and getting product here or making it here in 457 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: the United States while these issues are trying to be resolved. 458 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 7: Absolutely not for the toy industry. And I think there's 459 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 7: a lot of other industries that are in what I 460 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 7: would call low cost, high impact product that have become, 461 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 7: you know, very reliant on the supply chain coming out 462 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 7: of China for the last you know, twenty thirty years, 463 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 7: and there really isn't the infrastructure to be able to 464 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 7: make and deliver that kind of product here, not certainly 465 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 7: nowhere close to the to the cost. 466 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: So I know you are reaching out to the Trump administration. 467 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: You're trying to convey a message to them because you know, 468 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: if we have to live with some tariffs, the toy 469 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: industry can survive. But what happens to it if this 470 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: doesn't get resolved. 471 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 7: Well, you know, the average toy in America retail retails 472 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 7: for about twelve dollars and the factory cost is about 473 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: three dollars. So if you have one hundred and forty 474 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 7: five percent tariff, it adds it more than doubles the 475 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: factory costs, and depending upon how that flows through to retail, 476 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 7: you're going to have you know, at least a twelve 477 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 7: dollars toy going to seventeen and maybe over twenty. And 478 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 7: that that just puts a lot of buying out of 479 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 7: the equation. 480 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I understand that. And you were saying, you know, 481 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: I guess you know, the argument has been in the 482 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: past that we can get people to make basic level 483 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: production type things or you know, pick the lettuce or 484 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, do you know, menial manufacturing type of things, 485 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: because it's not like a living wage. But when America 486 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: and so they buy from other countries, right or haven't 487 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: manufactured abroad. And but some small businesses thrive because you know, 488 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: they're they're making money on the marketing, the technology and 489 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: the other stuff. So tell us about your feelings about 490 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: why is it okay to import cheap goods to the 491 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: United States. 492 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 7: Well, you have to take a you know, an upside 493 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 7: down view of it. Okay, So producing a toy at 494 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 7: three dollars factory costs. If you've never been to China, 495 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 7: I've been there a lot. I had a million square 496 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: foot factory partnership with a group that made little wooden toys. 497 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: When you go to the factory, you see literally hundreds 498 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 7: and hundreds of people sitting at desks, assembling and painting, 499 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 7: and you know they're working for you know, obviously a 500 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 7: much lower labor cost. That labor component, that labor pool 501 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 7: doesn't exist in America anymore. And what's happened as a 502 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 7: result of decades of moving the lowest cost part of 503 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 7: the economic equation offshore, not only to China, but other 504 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 7: countries as well, India and Vietnam. It has allowed us 505 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 7: to make really good product for a lot less, to 506 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 7: deliver more in the case of toys to families and children. 507 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 7: And what's been as a result of that, what's built 508 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 7: up over the decades here in the States is an 509 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 7: infrastructure of innovation, marketing, sales, all the things that go 510 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 7: with delivering the rest to the equation to the consumer. 511 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 7: And those jobs are high paying. And you know, there's 512 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 7: a there's about six hundred thousand jobs in America that 513 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 7: are related to the toy industry, both direct and indirect, 514 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 7: and those jobs are all the high the higher paying 515 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 7: end of the food chain in you know, in producing 516 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 7: product and getting it to the consumer and by driving 517 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 7: the cost of production down, We've been able to do 518 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 7: a lot more, deliver a lot more value to families, 519 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 7: and and really invest in innovation where you know where 520 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: the uh, the higher paying jobs. 521 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: Are right, But you want that more manufacturing in the US. 522 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: You want fairness. You want fairness in trade, don't you? 523 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: Of course you know? And I think, look, it's China 524 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 7: has not been uh a friend of ours when it 525 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 7: comes to, you know, the trade relationship. They steal our ip, 526 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 7: they make it very challenging. And I think there's a 527 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 7: lot of manufacturing that could be brought back to the States. 528 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 7: But manufacturing for the higher more sophisticated products, for the 529 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 7: lower cost products, there's no way that's going to come 530 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 7: back here. 531 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: What's the temporary solution to address this problem while we 532 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: get our supply chain in order. 533 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 7: I think that a more surgical approach to tariffs is 534 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 7: in order. So just take toys as an example. The 535 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 7: t tariff on the toy industry. You know, ninety six 536 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 7: percent of the toy companies in America are small to 537 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: mid size, and half of them say that they will 538 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 7: go out of business as a result of this tear thing. 539 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 7: I mean, the impact is going to be profound. They're 540 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: already canceling orders, factories are are holding back a product. 541 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 7: And our recent survey of small to mid sized toy 542 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 7: companies said that they say they believe that as many 543 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 7: as forty forty five percent could go out of business. 544 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 7: So it only has an economic impact, but think of 545 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 7: the impact on family. So I think the approach needs 546 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 7: to be more surgical. Look at those areas where tariffs 547 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 7: could have an impact on a positive basis, but but 548 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 7: on on on important categories like toys, it just makes 549 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: no sense at all. So I think a more reason 550 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 7: surgical approach to applying tariffs is in order here. I 551 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: think frankly, the toy industry has coalesced globally to say, look, 552 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 7: other countries have said, well, we'll go to zero tariff 553 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 7: on toys if you know if America will. So I 554 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 7: think there, you know, there's a there's there's a case 555 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 7: to be made for being much more focused and much 556 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 7: more more surgical about where you apply tariffs. 557 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Are not You're you're approaching the Trump administration. You're reaching out, 558 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, to Susie Wilds and others. What's what's your 559 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: message to them? 560 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 7: Well, I have a unique message. You know, back in 561 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 7: twenty two years ago, I actually connected with Donald Trump 562 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 7: around for the toy industry. I was at the time 563 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 7: chairman CEO of my company, but I was also chairman 564 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 7: of a creditors committee for the FAO Schwartz bankruptcy, and 565 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 7: the CEO of FAO Schwartz and I were, you know, 566 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 7: collaborating on what's the best outcome for FAO Schwartz. He 567 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 7: suggested that we approach Donald Trump, which we did, and 568 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 7: we had several conversations with him. He was very enthused 569 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 7: about adding the Trump brand to the toy industry through 570 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 7: FAO Schwartz, and we we got pretty far along with it. 571 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 7: But you know, because of the bankruptcy and other issues 572 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 7: unrelated to you know, those those conversations, that the deal 573 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 7: didn't happen. But nonetheless, what with Donald then Donald Trump 574 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 7: now President Trump expressed was his enthusiasm for the industry 575 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 7: and the impact his brand could have when the toy 576 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 7: industry and particularly for all the all the great you know, 577 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 7: things that you could bring the kids and families. So 578 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 7: he was very enthused about it. That conversation didn't go anywhere, 579 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 7: but I would like to remind him of the enthusiasm 580 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 7: he had for the impact he could have on families 581 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 7: and have him take a fresh look at what the 582 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 7: Trump brand means to the toy industry. 583 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of my greatest memories. We're going to FAO 584 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Schwartz by Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, right near Trump Tower. 585 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: Spectacular place. So I hope you you know I have 586 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: success in your endeavors. And John Lee, And are you 587 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: on social media? Can people follow you? 588 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 7: Yes? I'm on LinkedIn and Facebook, but certainly LinkedIn. 589 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: All right, great, I want to thank you so much 590 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: for coming on. And then after your you know your endeavors, 591 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: why don't you get back to me and we'll have 592 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: you back on and see where these tariffs go. 593 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to a fundraiser in Marlogo next week. 594 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 7: I hope they're running to President Trump and Susie Wilds 595 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 7: and we'll see where it goes. 596 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: But I'll keep you posted, all right, best of luck 597 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: to you. Thank you so much, John, Great, thank you. 598 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, I want to bring you a message 599 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: from a Switch to USA dot com. Go to Switch 600 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: to USA dot com and we'll be right back. We 601 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: always love seeing Maria from Switch to USA. 602 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 7: How are you I. 603 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 5: Am doing very well. 604 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 8: I am so pumped that we are here in Long Island. 605 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: Thank you. 606 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. And I see you everywhere. I saw 607 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: you in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, Wildwood, New Jersey. Is there anywhere 608 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: you don't go? 609 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: There is nowhere we don't go. 610 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You've been a. 611 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: Supporter of a real America's voice breaking point for some time. 612 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: Now tell us about Switch to USA. 613 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 8: Well, Switch to USA is the mom and pop American manufacturer, 614 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 8: and we are the parallel economy for all of your essentials. 615 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 8: And you never know when you might need another supply chain. 616 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Wink wink so well made on American soil by American factory. 617 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 8: Amen to that. We have to rebuild our economy and 618 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 8: we are doing it. 619 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: Where can our viewers find you? 620 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 8: Please come to switch the number two USA dot com. 621 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: Switch to USA dot com. We love Maria, so. 622 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: Great to see you. 623 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 624 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 8: David, We love you too, Thank you everyone. 625 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you Maria. 626 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 9: We all want to make a difference in our country 627 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 9: and make change, but we don't all have the ability 628 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 9: to do so. A lot of people are busy. They 629 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 9: can't join school boards, they can't get on borough Council. 630 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 9: But they can change where they shop and it's just shopping. 631 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 9: It's that simple. 632 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 8: We're gonna link arms and we're going to shop right 633 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 8: here at this American factory. They make the products and 634 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 8: they're all natural and they're good for us and they're affordable. 635 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 8: Everything made here in the USA. 636 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You're watching Real America's Voice News. I'm David Zier. 637 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: We have another great guest with us today. We're trying 638 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: to give all perspectives on what's going on with the 639 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: tariffs here and where does it leave the United States 640 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: and the health of our economy. And I have with 641 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: us Spencer Morrison. He's the author of How Tariffs reshore 642 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: r E s h o r E. How Tariffs Will 643 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: Bring our Jobs home and revive the American Dream. And 644 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Spencer's a lawyer and an intellectual. Welcome to the show. 645 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 4: How are you, hie, David, Thanks for having me on 646 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: the program. 647 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: Hi, great honor. Great to have you, I know asked 648 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's a big fan of your book, calling it 649 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: one of the most important books out there. So I've 650 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: been all over the country with Real America's Voice in 651 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: about thirty eight states and I've seen the closed up factories, 652 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen the storefronts boarded up, you know, especially 653 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: in the Rust belt states. And also you know, you know, 654 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: Trump revived manufacturing, especially in like Toledo, Whirlpool, Jeep, you know, 655 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: and other companies came back to the US. What's the 656 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: vision here for the tariffs and how do we get 657 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: back to be being a power world power in manufacturing. 658 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 10: Well, so this is really what President Trump is doing 659 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 10: as he's reversing fifty years of the free trade experiment. 660 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 10: So in nineteen seventy four and ever since then, America 661 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 10: started running a trade deficit with the rest of the world, 662 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 10: which means that we were buying more than we were selling. 663 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 10: The accumulative value of that trade deficit, when you account 664 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 10: for inflation, it's twenty five trillion dollars. So Americans have 665 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 10: bought from foreign countries like China and Mexico. They bought 666 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 10: twenty five trillion dollars more than they've sold. And the 667 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 10: question is how do we pay for that? Is we 668 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 10: didn't trade anything for it, and we paid for it 669 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 10: in two ways. Number One, we had to sell assets, 670 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 10: so you know, like potting off Grandma's wedding ringen to 671 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 10: buy the groceries. That's sort of what it's like. So 672 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 10: assets are, you know, things that we made in the 673 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 10: past that have value today. The biggest forms of assets 674 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 10: that America has been selling our real estate. For example, 675 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 10: last year, Americans sold sixty two billion dollars worth of 676 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 10: real estate, including about forty billion. 677 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 4: Dollars worth of housing. 678 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 10: Right, So this money we spend it on goods, it 679 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 10: comes back into the country and it jacks up the 680 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 10: housing prices. 681 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: So you think you're. 682 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 10: Getting cheap goods, but in reality, you're getting expensive mortgages. 683 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 10: On top of yeah, on top of that, we're selling 684 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 10: ownership of American companies. Seventeen percent of American companies are 685 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 10: now and owned. So China is taking the money that 686 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 10: we're paying them for the goods and they're buying American 687 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 10: stock market, and they're targeting companies that are tech companies 688 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 10: or industry you know, that have industrial applications, and. 689 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 4: Then they're just getting all the technology for free. 690 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 10: They buy up an ownership share in a company and 691 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 10: then they take the technology. It's not even really stealing 692 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 10: because they own it. So you know, when we're talking 693 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 10: about a massive amount of tech that's leaving the country. 694 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 10: They estimate that something like six hundred billion dollars worth 695 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 10: of American technology is stolen every year. That doesn't actually 696 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 10: include all the tech that China's just getting for free 697 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 10: because they're buying up American companies. 698 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: It's totally crazy. Sure, terrible deal. 699 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question. So it takes time. Right, 700 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: Trump brought back like nine thousand distribution centers and factories 701 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: back to the US in his first term. It's going 702 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: to take time again for this stuff to happen, do 703 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: you think, and how much time does China have You 704 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: think China comes back to the table and they settle 705 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: on a more reasonable tariff. 706 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal. 707 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 10: It took fifty years to get here, so it's not 708 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 10: going to be fixed overnight. There's some historical precedent, you know, 709 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 10: if you look back at the history of America before 710 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 10: World War Two, America was able to arm and industrialize 711 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 10: pretty rapidly. It took a couple of years though, didn't 712 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 10: happen overnight, but it's possible. So if the president has 713 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 10: a concerted terriff agenda and an industrial you know, a 714 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 10: coherent industrial policy, then yeah, it's definitely possible to reindustrialize quickly, 715 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 10: but there's going to be some short term pain for 716 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 10: some long term gain. 717 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: So my travels across America, you know, everybody's hurting. Even 718 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: if you have money, if you own a business, it's 719 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: not the same. Your legacy costs have gone up forty 720 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: five thousand year of a health insurance, workers comp costs, 721 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: medicaid fraud in every Blue state. That's massive, you know, 722 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: And you know it's really hard to be in small business. 723 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: And we saw the diners get punished with the eggs 724 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: and thank god that's down. Other costs of coming down. 725 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: I bought gas for two fifty five yesterday, which was great. 726 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: I think that's going to come down. But how long 727 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: can the American people go and what kind of pain 728 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: will they experience, you know, because of the China situation, 729 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: because over seventy five countries have already come back to 730 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: the table, right. 731 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean there's no question there's going to be 732 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 10: some short term pin. America runs a huge trade deficit 733 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 10: with the China. 734 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 7: Last year. 735 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 10: It was worth three hundred billion dollars buy everything from 736 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 10: China from forks to semiconductors to shoes. 737 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 738 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's there's a. 739 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 10: Lot of stuff like the stock that you know, you 740 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 10: go to Walmart for example, you go to Target, the store, 741 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 10: it's all stocked with stuff from China. So it's a problem. 742 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 10: It's definitely a problem. But the reality is is that 743 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 10: we have to suffer the pin because it's going to 744 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 10: happen now where it's going to happen in ten years 745 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 10: and it'll be way worse. 746 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 4: The reality is is that we're living in an umption 747 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: bubble right now. 748 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 10: America is consuming far more than we produce, and that 749 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 10: can't go on forever because the eventually we're going to 750 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 10: run out of assets to sell and no one's going 751 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 10: to buy our debt, and at that point the economy craters. 752 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 10: So what President Trump is doing, and I think very 753 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 10: wisely doing, is deflating this bubble slowly with tariffs. Right, 754 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 10: We've got to bring that trade deficit down and hopefully 755 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 10: get to a position where we have a trade surplus. 756 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 10: If we can do that, we can sort of navigate 757 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 10: between the rocks with the ship before we crash. But 758 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 10: if we don't do it now, we're never going to 759 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 10: do it. 760 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I have a twenty twenty three explorer 761 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: for what Explorer. I still don't have the Wi Fi 762 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: Bluetooth chip CPU in the car. I can't get it. 763 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: It's a fifty five thousand dollars truck. I can't get 764 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: Bluetooth in my my Explorer. 765 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: I believe it. So because these chips all come from Taiwan. 766 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: Right and during COVID, you know the supply chain issues. 767 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: So I talked to a lot of trucking companies. You know, 768 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: they can't get a company manufactures can't get product to 769 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: their factories to make goods that may be dependent on 770 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: some foreign sources. And do what industries you think will 771 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: be the most impacted by that? And you know it's 772 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: a real issue, right Yeah. 773 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 10: I think one of the biggest, one of the biggest 774 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 10: problems is the semiconductors. So, I mean the modern world 775 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 10: runs on computers. Okay, we're talking on the computer. There's 776 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 10: a computer in your toaster. This computer is in everything. 777 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,439 Speaker 10: These silicon chips and almost all these silicone chips they're 778 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 10: printed in Taiwan. They're printed in Taiwan's we buy them 779 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 10: from Taiwan. Now Here's the real problem, though, is that 780 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 10: the industrial rot goes a lot deeper than that. If 781 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 10: we wanted to print chips. America doesn't even make the 782 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 10: photo lithography machines to print those chips. Those actually all 783 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 10: come from Holland, from the Netherlands, Right, So they build 784 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 10: the machinery to make the chips in Holland, they ship 785 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 10: it to Taiwan, and then they sell the finished products 786 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 10: to America. And America is completely cut out of the 787 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 10: manufacturing process. And it's a disaster because you wonder, I mean, 788 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 10: what happens if there was a conflict or a supply 789 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 10: chain disruption. Yeah, so we have no choice. There's nothing 790 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 10: we can do about it. 791 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it. We got to make this up. 792 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: I hear there's new chip plants coming online in the 793 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: United States though, right, and AMD and other companies. I 794 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: think Nvidia has decided to make more product in the 795 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: US so far right. 796 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 10: That's kind of truck in. Yeah, that's the tariffs that work. 797 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 10: I mean, this is reshoring and action. 798 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: Right. 799 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 10: What President Trump is saying, He's saying, Look, you're not 800 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 10: going to build a manufacturer your products in China and 801 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 10: then ship them to America. You got to build a 802 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 10: factory in America. And that's that's what's happening. 803 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: How much time does Trump have to resolve these issues 804 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: on the tariffs. 805 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 10: Well, unless he's able to run for a third term, 806 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 10: he's got a couple of years left. 807 00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I understand. Well, there's a lot involved here, 808 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: and the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs, the GAT 809 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: treaties never been fair to the United States. And I 810 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: remember when Bush Senior gave one hundred and twenty five 811 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: other countries equal voting power as the US, the largest 812 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: manufacturer in the world, you know, you know, and then 813 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: it became the wto right, and so we've definitely been 814 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 1: taken advantage of, for sure. 815 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. 816 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 10: I mean you have to remember the context in which 817 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 10: all of these sort of free trade agreements were originally 818 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 10: conceptualized and negotiated was in the after math of World 819 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 10: War Two. Like it stems back to the Marshall Plan 820 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 10: to rebuild Europe, sure, right, So the idea was that 821 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 10: we'd give Europeans access to American markets and they would 822 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 10: be able to post terrorists on their products so they 823 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 10: could reindustrialize. And then you know, that logic sort of 824 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 10: got taken taken on to fight communism, right, there was 825 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 10: a you know, countries that allied with America were given 826 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 10: access to American markets. It's like a big it's a 827 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 10: big carrot to not go on communist. Now here's the deal. 828 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 3: Though. 829 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 10: World War two was was a long long time ago, 830 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 10: and the Soviet Union fell decades ago, right, and yet 831 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 10: all of these things are still in place. And the 832 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 10: problem is that America can't afford to subsidize, to subsidize 833 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 10: the entire world anymore. It's just not it's just not 834 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 10: a viable strategy. China's economy, for example, they produce three 835 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 10: times the industrial output is America, and we're subsidizing them. 836 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 4: It's it's it's unhinged. 837 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: Well it is, and it's got to be fixed, there's 838 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And one thing I like about 839 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: Trump always is that, you know, he's enticing companies to 840 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: come back to the United States. And we got I 841 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: think already announced they're going to build here. You know, 842 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: we already got Hondai building a steel plant for like 843 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: twenty five you know, for for millions of cars to 844 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: be built in Louisiana. So we're going to follow this closely. 845 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: I just hope the American people can hang on because 846 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people can't take it on the chin anymore, 847 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, and it's a tough problem. Spencer. Where can 848 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: people find your book and follow you on socials? 849 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 10: Yeah? So the book is available right now on Amazon. 850 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 10: I'd love it if people were to buy it and 851 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 10: leave a review. It's always it's always a pleasure hearing 852 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 10: from people. You can find me on x as well. 853 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 10: It's real sp Morrison and I post all my articles 854 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 10: on my substack. The substack handle is also real sp Morrison. 855 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: All right, wonderful. I'm going to download the book tonight. 856 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for coming on. 857 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: I hope you had a great holiday weekend and we'll 858 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: have you back. 859 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks so much, God blessed. 860 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: Thank you Spencer, everybody. Thank you for watching Real America's 861 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: Voice News today. You're watching Breaking Point. Got a great 862 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: show again next week and again I hope you had 863 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: a great Easter and passover weekend. Thank you again. We'll 864 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: see you soon.