WEBVTT - Jon Zaslow Joins Heat Check!

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<v Speaker 1>Break was breaking down all the biggest NBA storylines.

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<v Speaker 2>We're tuned in to the Heat Checked.

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<v Speaker 3>The Heat Check was just a crank, the best podcast

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<v Speaker 3>covering all the drama around the association.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, we bring on Jonathan Zaslo Zaslow Show two

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<v Speaker 4>point zero, and I mean, if you got anything on

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<v Speaker 4>this game, if you feel free, But my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure it's been a rough couple of days down there

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<v Speaker 4>in Miami for you too, So feel free to go

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<v Speaker 4>either direction you want. The floor's yours, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I will tell you that I thought the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>were the play tonight, so I'm hoping for a strong

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<v Speaker 1>second half.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got home.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not been watching, but I do know the score,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously I'm not pleased with that. And as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the as far as the news yesterday afternoon, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked. I feel stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very confident that the Heat were going to

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<v Speaker 1>land Damian Lillard. And you know, as more and more

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<v Speaker 1>the details come out, you realize that the Heat really

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<v Speaker 1>never had they never had a chance, and that part

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<v Speaker 1>is is aggravating if you're a Heat fan. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that the Blazers owe the Heat anything. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>Heat's right to be able to trade for any player

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<v Speaker 1>they want. The Blazers don't want to talk to them,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to talk to them, and that seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>is the direction it went.

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<v Speaker 2>So that part, as a Heat fan is frustrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you think they didn't want to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think I think things got personal. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they got in their feelings and I think that and

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<v Speaker 1>look I out full disclosure, I don't like player empowerment,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a movement in the league these days,

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<v Speaker 1>these years where player empowerment is a very real thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would appear that the Blazers and Joe Cronin

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, I guess, were were angry with Damian Lillard

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<v Speaker 1>essentially trying to thin the market for a possible trade

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<v Speaker 1>by saying I will only play for Miami, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Blazers decided, Okay, well we're not going to play that game,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to take any deal out there, the

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<v Speaker 1>best deal not Miami. So there's no reason to even

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the Heats. I mean, the details that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming out now are they really never had a real conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>And that part, to me is crazy because while of

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<v Speaker 1>course no one owes the Miami Heat a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>or even an opportunity to trade for anyone, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about at worst, top three player in your

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<v Speaker 1>franchise is history. Maybe some people would say the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>player in your franchise history, if he really, really badly

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go to one team in particular, is it

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to pick up the phone, have a conversation. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the conversation, tell pat Riley fu hang

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<v Speaker 1>up the phone, and then say, Dame, we tried.

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<v Speaker 2>But like they didn't even do that. Like that part's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to me. So what do you think they do next? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm reading articles you got Sports Illustrated saying should

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<v Speaker 5>we revisit conversations about mb to the Heat? Which I

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<v Speaker 5>do think, like after this year, Philly doesn't do anything,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe he looks to get moved, but we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a splashy move can they make because you know pat

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<v Speaker 5>Riley has to do something here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's well see that's the thing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>pat Riley thinks he needs to do something here. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of hubris on the team's part

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<v Speaker 1>where they don't necessarily feel they need to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's also the evidence, which is two of

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<v Speaker 1>the last four years they've been in the finals. One

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<v Speaker 1>of those other two years they were in Game seven

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<v Speaker 1>of the East Finals. So do they really think they

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<v Speaker 1>need to do something. No, I don't think that they

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way. They lost Struce, they lost Vincent.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They get new Struce's and new Vincent's every couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that they feel the need to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. And they're like, yeah, well, we were just

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<v Speaker 1>in the finals. We'll run it back. And and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we proved that it doesn't even matter what

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<v Speaker 1>seed we are. We just need to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs and we're comfortable with our team. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>the MB thing, that is a pipe dream. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know if Embiid's gonna ask out

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, but let's be honest here. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between trying to trade for Damian Lillard and saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give you Tyler Hero as the main piece in

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<v Speaker 1>whatever draft picks that ain't cutting it for any type

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<v Speaker 1>of Joel Embiid conversation, like, if you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about EMBIID, the conversation begins with Bam at a bio.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think a deal like that necessarily benefits

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat. The Heat aren't going to part with Bam

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<v Speaker 1>for practically, I don't think anyone like they weren't including

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<v Speaker 1>Bam in a conversation for Kevin Durant last year. So

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<v Speaker 1>the EMBIID stuff, I think that's a waste of time

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<v Speaker 1>for Heat fans to even talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, you get kind of spoiled. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch an organization make moves that you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how they make the moves, and then somehow they

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<v Speaker 4>make it happen year after year, and at some point

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<v Speaker 4>you go, Okay, they're just gonna figure this out. And

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<v Speaker 4>if they don't make any I mean, right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>assuming there's really nothing else they can do unless pat

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<v Speaker 4>Riley pulls a something magic at of his hat and

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<v Speaker 4>somebody requests a trait right before the season, which would

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<v Speaker 4>make any sense. So let's assume that this team is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go in looking the way that they do. Where

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<v Speaker 4>do they stack up in the Eastern Conference?

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<v Speaker 2>In your eyes. I mean, last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a really frustrating regular season, and so they barely

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<v Speaker 1>sneak into the postseason as the eight seed. They almost

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<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't even make the playoffs at all. Because

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing they should be a lot better than an

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<v Speaker 1>eight seed, Like they should be a top five team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't really matter what seed they are

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<v Speaker 1>going into the playoffs. They've beaten Milwaukee two of the

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<v Speaker 1>last they faced each other. Three of the last four playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami won two of them, and a couple of them

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<v Speaker 1>were actually pretty handily in Miami's favor.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be a top five team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they look at it and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a super motivated Tyler hero. We maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get a resurrected Duncan Robinson because they dusted

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<v Speaker 1>him off in the playoffs and he was great again.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Martin thought he was Jimmy Butler for half the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And then you gotta full of the young

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<v Speaker 1>guys in Djovic who had a fantastic World Cup, and

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<v Speaker 1>Hakez Junior is twenty two years old, like he's gonna play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there is intrigue because there are some

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<v Speaker 1>pieces there that they feel really good about.

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<v Speaker 2>They should definitely be a top five team in the East.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the plus five point fifty for the Heat

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<v Speaker 3>to miss the playoffs. How disappointing would it be if

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<v Speaker 3>you guys became a lottery team. I'm sure awful. I

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<v Speaker 3>see Barry my Man Barry Jackson at Florida Sports Buzz

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<v Speaker 3>already to the place of acceptance in the stage of

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<v Speaker 3>grief where Heat fans legit zazz are talking about just

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<v Speaker 3>whether there's any merit to start this whole thing over

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<v Speaker 3>again and blow it up. It's wild out there on

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<v Speaker 3>the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, being a lottery team the year after

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<v Speaker 1>Wempan Yama is stupid, all right, So yes, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be really annoyed if they were a lottery team this year.

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<v Speaker 1>There were plenty of Heat fans, by the way, after

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat lost the first playing game and then had

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<v Speaker 1>to play the second one, the do or die game

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<v Speaker 1>against Icago, there were Heat fans who wanted them to

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<v Speaker 1>lose that game because like, ah, they're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do anything as an eight seed. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>get into the wembin Yama sweepstakes. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the missing the playoffs, like, the only

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<v Speaker 1>way that would happen is if there's some type of

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic injury, God forbid, and and and the blowing it up,

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<v Speaker 1>starting over, tearing it down kind of deal that that

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<v Speaker 1>has never been the Heat's way. It's never going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Heat's wave. They do not play that game.

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<v Speaker 4>Jonathan Zaslow Zaslow showed two point zero. Always good to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to you, man, Yeah, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be all right down here. The weather's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all the time. We after this episode of the

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<v Speaker 3>Heat Check, come on back later for an all new episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Many thanks to Jonathan, as well as my co host

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Asho and Ryan Horvatt and producer Scott Lynn. Check

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<v Speaker 3>into the new NBA season, this one should be a

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