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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: next guest is multi Grammy Award winning producer Jermaine dupri

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Speaker 1: with over four hundred million records soldier Date. Dupri a

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Speaker 1: currently in the studio with Justin timber Lake and my

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Speaker 1: Man Anthony Hamilton's working on their next project. In addition

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Speaker 1: to as many TV ventures, Jermaine was one of the

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Speaker 1: at the Wind Casino in Las Vegas. That's a bad hotel,

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Speaker 1: Jermaine's being a vegan for fifteen years and its partnership

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Speaker 1: and Management, Jermaine dupri Yo, Yo, thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Great hey, Jermaine, here's the sad one. But I left

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Speaker 1: out a lot. I left out a lot. That's that

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Speaker 1: do the next I follow you around. I follow around

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Speaker 1: from a little band, a little a little band, folly around.

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Speaker 1: You deserve it. Man. When I think about the music

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Speaker 1: just can you surmise what you expected when you got

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Speaker 1: I mean I expect a lot that happened. I expected.

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Speaker 1: I really just expected to exists, you know. Um and

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Speaker 1: Right to get the front of the lines is attainable

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Speaker 1: once I got in and I'm like, if you put

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Speaker 1: When I when I talk about This has been an

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Speaker 1: it matter what the outcome of what it is that

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Speaker 1: what the results of that step may be, Jermaine, you know,

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Speaker 1: but when you wake up, you want to know I

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Speaker 1: What is that? What is that beat right now? Because

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Speaker 1: that's what That's what speaks to your genius. But have

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Speaker 1: Like I said, repeating history, like I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this planets based lifestyle platform that you're tired, you're tied into.

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