WEBVTT - #1125: March 16, 2006

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<v Speaker 1>I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowledge Fight.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good

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<v Speaker 3>guys saying we are the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowledge Fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan and Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowledge Fight. I need money.

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<v Speaker 5>I need money.

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<v Speaker 4>Andy in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Andy

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<v Speaker 2>in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 6>You're on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for holding.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Alex.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a first-time caller.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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<v Speaker 1>KnowledgeFight.

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<v Speaker 2>KnowledgeFight.com.

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<v Speaker 6>I love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, everybody. Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. I'm Dan Conley. Where

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<v Speaker 5>a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the

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<v Speaker 5>altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>Quick question for you.

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<v Speaker 5>What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think, you know, the end of the month

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<v Speaker 5>is halfway here.

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<v Speaker 4>We are in the ites.

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<v Speaker 5>And next month, things might be different.

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<v Speaker 4>It's possible.

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<v Speaker 5>But March, I gotta go first.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always you in March.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the tradition, and I'm gonna stick to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>And this bright spot that I have is a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of a correction.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that I was a little bit harsh on Survivor. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>We're back at it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's, you know, Jeff Probst rapping was a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's unforgivable. And I will, as I

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<v Speaker 5>was editing that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard myself say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I immediately was like, that didn't happen. I replayed

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of the episode to make sure. To make sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I had, oof, so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>It really did happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It did.

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<v Speaker 2>It did.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my God. But look, there's some really fun people

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<v Speaker 5>on this season. I really enjoy a fair amount of

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<v Speaker 5>this cast. I love seeing Q again. He's great. He

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<v Speaker 5>is a chaotic player that his strategies are all over

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<v Speaker 5>the place. No one would ever think to do the

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<v Speaker 5>things he's doing. And I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 4>Has anybody made any big moves?

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<v Speaker 7>Has anybody come up with an overarching strategy and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we've got a whole thing and we're ready to take

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<v Speaker 7>it on? Or is it all just kind of, is

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<v Speaker 7>everybody kind of still doing eighth grade dance like we're

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<v Speaker 7>waiting to find out who's partnering up kind of situation?

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<v Speaker 5>At the beginning, you know, we're only a couple episodes in.

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<v Speaker 5>At the beginning, big moves are kind of hard to make.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the stakes are really survival, make it to the merge. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The merge is really where.

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<v Speaker 4>that's where the big moves happen yeah gotcha i.

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<v Speaker 5>Think i think that's that's where you're gonna find the

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<v Speaker 5>impressive flashy gameplay gotcha but you know i think people

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<v Speaker 5>have have certain it's all about uh restricting information okay

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning all right like there's in group out

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<v Speaker 5>group kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of sure sure that's the beginning of the clicks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you want to have your numbers in the tribe

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<v Speaker 5>you know like it's seven people you want four got

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<v Speaker 5>it so it You know, choosing who you're giving information

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<v Speaker 5>to and sharing stuff with and keeping things from. Those

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<v Speaker 5>are the moves that people make in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think there's some bold choices.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>But, like, not much. Not much.

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<v Speaker 6>Eh.

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<v Speaker 5>Christian sent the Billie Eilish boomerang idol to Aubrey. which

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<v Speaker 5>was a big choice. That's a big move in theory.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>But it might, it might not, it might not turn

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<v Speaker 5>into anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>That's I just, those, those idols really got to pay off.

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<v Speaker 7>At least one of them has to pay off with

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<v Speaker 7>the boomerang aspect. Otherwise that's going to be really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>If, if none of them, if they all just get used,

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<v Speaker 7>like even just regular idols, that's still bullshit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no boomerang aspect to it that it just hit.

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<v Speaker 4>A tree or one has to boomerang.

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<v Speaker 5>Although I will say this. Okay. Here's my positive. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>In the last episode, we learned that Mike White, the

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<v Speaker 5>guy who made White Lotus and School of Rock, he

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<v Speaker 5>knows Ozzy from a restaurant in L.A.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll happen.

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<v Speaker 5>So Ozzy, the king of the water, who is the

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<v Speaker 5>best swimmer in Survivor history, and also did some porno,

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<v Speaker 5>he also owns a restaurant that Mike White has gone

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<v Speaker 5>to in Los Angeles. Well, that's great. And they're friends.

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<v Speaker 7>From Mike White is a survivor super fan. So, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>he was like, he owns a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll go there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>That is fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, what's your bright spot?

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<v Speaker 7>My bright spot is I have I discovered finally after

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<v Speaker 7>you having told me about them several times over the

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<v Speaker 7>past few years. the live readings of Star Wars produced

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<v Speaker 7>by the George Lucas Talk Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, sure. Connor's not in all of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Watto's not in all of them.

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<v Speaker 7>Does a pre-video for those who aren't aware of Connor.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Connor is in one heavily.

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<v Speaker 6>True.

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<v Speaker 4>He is in the Star Wars Holiday Special. And my friend...

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<v Speaker 4>That is fucking dynamite.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, his spirit is in all of them. Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 7>He is a main player in the holiday special, and

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<v Speaker 7>no matter how many times I have seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>I refuse.

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<v Speaker 7>To remember everything that happens in the holiday special.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen it probably 10, maybe 12.

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<v Speaker 5>Times where we met Boba Fett.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>Just, and I, and every time I'm like, well, this

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<v Speaker 7>clearly didn't actually happen. This is like some sort of

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<v Speaker 7>artifact that fell from a universe where Shazam, you know

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<v Speaker 7>what I'm saying? Like this is, this has got to

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<v Speaker 7>be a global hallucination because it can't be real.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope.

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<v Speaker 4>And it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 7>It is uninterrupted, unsubtitled Wookiee speech for a long time.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one of the fun things about it being a

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<v Speaker 5>script reading. Yeah. Is like, there's the, like, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>real intent that comes through.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, is that what they were saying? How about that?

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<v Speaker 7>I thought itchy was just a grump.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. There's also, you know, there's some things that are

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<v Speaker 5>like through lines of those, those live readings that are

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<v Speaker 5>really fun. Like the person playing R2-D2 with the beeps

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<v Speaker 5>and boops.

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<v Speaker 4>JoJo Ginn.

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<v Speaker 5>So good.

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<v Speaker 7>And she gets better over time. It's clear that she

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<v Speaker 7>like cares.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's a thousand little fun things about those. Like

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<v Speaker 5>Vic Michaelis is amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, everybody's great.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Gourley is all across the board.

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<v Speaker 6>Fantastic. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Just truly great.

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<v Speaker 5>You could just tell that he was like, I really

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<v Speaker 5>think I can nail this trade federation voice. Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Just there is, there was a way to go and

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<v Speaker 7>it was a bad way. And then there's another way

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<v Speaker 7>to go and it's doing a Southern character and that

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<v Speaker 7>is the correct way.

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<v Speaker 5>So now we have once again spoken so highly of

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<v Speaker 5>something that the George Lucas Talk Show people are involved with.

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<v Speaker 4>Never going to speak to us.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, well, keep up the good work, guys. So, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 5>today we have an episode to go over. Ooh. Alex is...

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously having a tough time with the Iran war. Sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 5>And we'll see what's up with that.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>But first, let's take a little moment to say hello

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<v Speaker 5>to some new wonks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a great idea. So first, a tiny doe.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>You're now a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Next, if it bleeds, we can make a supplement out

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<v Speaker 5>of it. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've been a secret wonk for two years, and

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<v Speaker 5>I can't stay silent anymore. Haribo is pronounced quokka. Thank

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<v Speaker 5>you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. And we had a technocrat in the mix.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank you so much to Abracadabra Boomshaka Day. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Friesen, and I'm back like a vertebrae. I've come

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<v Speaker 5>with a hat full of tricks, trunk full of methylene blue,

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<v Speaker 5>car full of documents. Thank you so much. You're now

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<v Speaker 5>a technocrat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a policy wonk.

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<v Speaker 6>Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her

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<v Speaker 6>you're brilliant.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy shark.

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<v Speaker 3>Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 5>Jar Jar Binks didn't have a Caribbean accent in the

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<v Speaker 5>live reading, now did he?

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<v Speaker 4>He did not. He did not. Wise to keep that

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<v Speaker 4>away from him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, Daffy Duck is a good voice.

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<v Speaker 8>It's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good choice.

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<v Speaker 5>I read that technocrat name as if it was going

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<v Speaker 5>to all rhyme. Because the Chaka Day and vertebrae tricked

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<v Speaker 5>me into thinking it all was going to have an A, B.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it's a Juggalo reference.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, whoop whoop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, whoop whoop. I believe we should be whoop whooping.

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<v Speaker 5>I apologize if I didn't get that. I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like their music.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not a big musical Juggalo fan. I'm more of

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<v Speaker 7>a community guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, Jordan, Alex has been struggling in the present day.

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<v Speaker 6>True.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of stuff that's happening, and the people

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<v Speaker 5>he likes are doing things that are indefensible. In terms

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<v Speaker 5>of his ideology.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>And it pains me that we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 5>keep talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What's that? Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that the past? Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the past. We're going to the past.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. We're going to be talking about 316, March 16th, 2006.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. Stone Cold Steve Austin Day in the Past.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And get this.

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 5>This episode is coming out on 316, 2026, the 20th

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<v Speaker 5>anniversary of the episode that we're listening to on this show.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why I did the glass break.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you got it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>It's worth it. It's worth the pageantry.

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<v Speaker 5>Layers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>20 years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Same day.

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<v Speaker 7>Like if you were folding time, this would be the

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<v Speaker 7>moment where the things touch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we, maybe this. Oh my God. The things have touched.

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder if this was, if we were doing a

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<v Speaker 7>bad movie, this would be the moment where we like

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<v Speaker 7>transport ourselves back into.

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<v Speaker 6>A, what is it?

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<v Speaker 7>13 going on 30 situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what I'm doing? Oh, my God. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>13 going on 30 situation. They have created a singularity. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>my God. This is a time paradox.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to be Jamie Lee Curtis in this one,

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be Jim Ross.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're back on in 2006. Sure.

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<v Speaker 6>316.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. And we've been dealing with a fair amount

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<v Speaker 5>of Slobodan Milosevic. We've had.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>In the past. Yeah. And I will tell you that

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<v Speaker 5>this episode has nothing to do with him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a fasted on Milosevic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, we are pasted on Milosevic.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, nice.

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<v Speaker 5>But we do start with a clip of Alex saying

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<v Speaker 5>something that he would not want to take responsibility for

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<v Speaker 5>in the present. Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Belarus says U.S. planned school bombings on election day. Are

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<v Speaker 6>we to believe this?

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<v Speaker 3>The Russians wrote the modern book on doing this, and so...

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<v Speaker 3>Would the United States be involved in a bombing? Yes, certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>to blame it on enemies. But Russia likes to do it, too.

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<v Speaker 3>The Belarusians, I guess you.

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<v Speaker 6>Could call them, have been known to do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>who doesn't, really?

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have to research this. And hindsight normally will

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<v Speaker 3>let us learn if it's the case. But we're not

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<v Speaker 3>sure right now. But I will get into this article

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<v Speaker 3>out of Moscow News.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, the Russians, they like to false flag bomb stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>That wasn't supposed to be happening in 2006.

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<v Speaker 7>I do appreciate the hindsight normally allows us to do something,

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<v Speaker 7>because that's a loaded concept. The hindsight in 2006, and

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<v Speaker 7>now we're in that. Like, in hindsight, hindsight doesn't do shit.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it turns out it doesn't. Yeah, it's very useless. No,

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<v Speaker 5>it allows you to look at this and be like, huh.

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<v Speaker 4>How about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're lying.

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<v Speaker 4>What about that hindsight?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>So I thought, like, okay, that's cool. That's certainly a

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<v Speaker 5>different take than Alex has in the present day. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>hear about some more geopolitics.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>But instead, Alex gets real local. Okay. And wants to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about a band.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, today's broadcast is going to be a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll cover all the normal staples, government-sponsored terror, the new

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<v Speaker 3>world order, the satanic elite. The real world that surrounds us.

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<v Speaker 3>But Cruiserweight, who I'm a big fan of, I played

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<v Speaker 3>part of one of their songs yesterday, won a big

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<v Speaker 3>award at the Austin Awards last night. And I'd incidentally

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<v Speaker 3>gotten some complaints that I hadn't aired the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>by listeners. So we'll play the whole song later in

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<v Speaker 3>this hour that I never got to yesterday. We just

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<v Speaker 3>played about two minutes of it. And also you'll get

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<v Speaker 3>my review of the dystopic science fiction Philip K.

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<v Speaker 6>Dick novel.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>For the first time made into a full-length feature rotoscoped

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood production. Up on the big silver screen, I had

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to go watch it last night at a

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<v Speaker 3>sneak peek. It won't be out until July. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was just blown away. I mean, it is avant-garde. What

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<v Speaker 3>is avant-garde?

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<v Speaker 7>New.

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<v Speaker 6>Something new. Before it's time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, so now we know what avant-garde means when Alex

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<v Speaker 5>calls all the Nazis that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's good to keep in our back pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>Before their time. Coming. Coming down the pipeline is another

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<v Speaker 4>way of saying that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm helping them down the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's absolutely zero chance that Alex likes this band Cruiserweight.

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<v Speaker 5>They're a local Austin standout pop punk band that's won

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<v Speaker 5>the Austin Award in that category for the past few years.

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<v Speaker 5>They're in that mid-2000s sweet spot where they're wildly successful

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<v Speaker 5>but also obscure, where they've had songs and video games

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<v Speaker 5>and opened for bands like Newfound Glory, but they aren't

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<v Speaker 5>Newfound Glory.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>They put out an album in 2005 called Silent Weaponry,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think could be a reference to Silent Weapons

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<v Speaker 5>for Quiet Wars.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The fake document that Bill Cooper published in Behold a

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<v Speaker 5>Pale Horse, and Alex has also treated as real.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The song Alex is gonna play is called Operation Eyes Shut,

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<v Speaker 5>which does have some early 2000s InfoWars vibes. So while

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that Alex is into this pop punk band,

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't be surprised if their manager reached out to

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<v Speaker 5>him and wanted him to play the song. Right, right, right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I can see that connection being made, but he's not

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<v Speaker 5>out there checking out the pop punk scene.

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<v Speaker 7>I would, I mean, and I'll say this, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think there are a lot of pop punk people going

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<v Speaker 7>to the bunkers where the fans of Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>At this time might be living. Playing house shows in redouts.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, those were the days when you would have to

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<v Speaker 7>go about 20, 30 feet underground to play a house show.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>With all those little bunk beds.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a bar of MREs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you like a cocktail of beans?

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<v Speaker 4>Who wants to buy merch?

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<v Speaker 5>It's also strange to hear Alex talking about a scanner

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<v Speaker 5>darkly and not immediately mentioning that he's in it.

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<v Speaker 4>That he's in it. I mean, why did he get

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<v Speaker 4>to see a sneak peek of it?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it because there was a sneak peek available? Or

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<v Speaker 7>is it because maybe he was in some way associated

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<v Speaker 7>with the fucking film?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it is going to come up. But it

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<v Speaker 5>was shocking to me that it doesn't come up immediately. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>but pretty close to immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got government-sponsored terror in it. If you closely follow

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening, the government, in conjunction with private corporations, ships

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<v Speaker 3>in the drugs. The police state is a mechanized control

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<v Speaker 3>grid to control the population. And basically, it is put

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<v Speaker 3>out by Warner Independent. And behind the scenes, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>quite a task to get this through. But it is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely anti-New World Order. It's got some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>stars in Hollywood in it. And believe me, they're anti-New

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<v Speaker 3>World Order. It's a labor of love. You know, Keanu

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<v Speaker 3>Reeves makes around $ 50 million for his movies. He made

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<v Speaker 3>$ 200 million on his last two Matrix films.

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<v Speaker 6>And he made....

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<v Speaker 3>What does it say? He was paid $ 70, 000 to make

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<v Speaker 3>this film for people that shoot their mouths off and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Hollywood establishment. This film would normally cost about $ 80

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<v Speaker 3>million to make conservatively. You can go read major industry

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<v Speaker 3>publications that are reporting that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was made.

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<v Speaker 3>For $ 8. 9 million with an original budget of $ 6. 9 million. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>my big review of it, and, of course, I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>really mentioned or talked about in the last review we did,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'd only seen it in the studio there

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<v Speaker 3>on a TV screen, parts of it. My first review

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even mention that I'm in the film or consulted

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<v Speaker 3>on the film, and I was just so honored that

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<v Speaker 3>I was able to be part of this film, that

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<v Speaker 3>my friend Rick Linkletter called me and included me in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that the producer Tommy Pallotta did, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>one of the other producers is George Clooney, who we

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<v Speaker 3>know is anti-New World Order.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so Alex is trying to sound like he basically

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<v Speaker 5>co-directed this movie, which he really just had a cameo

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<v Speaker 5>in it. In 2017, Vice interviewed Richard Linklater about how

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<v Speaker 5>he feels about having worked with Alex, which never happened

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<v Speaker 5>again after Scanner Darkly.

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<v Speaker 6>Weird.

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<v Speaker 5>His response, quote, I guess there's a part of me

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<v Speaker 5>now that's surprised because he never really seemed like that

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<v Speaker 5>to me. I can't say he's not a good manipulator.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't say I've really known him all these years.

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<v Speaker 5>Really bizarre. He's asked about how he first met Alex,

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<v Speaker 5>and he says, quote, On Waking Life, he came in

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<v Speaker 5>and seen my movie Slacker. We started talking about a part,

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<v Speaker 5>so I worked up a little part for him. He

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<v Speaker 5>was more fun when it was the Bush era. Put

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<v Speaker 5>it like that. When he was anti that, I was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I was like, oh, you're just anti everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>But then he's pro somebody for the first time, which

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<v Speaker 5>is like big choice, Alex. We'll see how that shakes

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<v Speaker 5>out long term. Ooh, hindsight. I haven't spoke to him

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<v Speaker 5>in years, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Hindsight is, ooh.

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<v Speaker 5>In that and other interviews, Linklater makes clear that Alex

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<v Speaker 5>was someone who was known in Austin and they all

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<v Speaker 5>laughed at. He was funny, not somebody to be taken

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<v Speaker 5>seriously or who was an important consultant. In Linklater's films.

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<v Speaker 5>Ethan Hawke is an important collaborator with Linklater throughout his

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<v Speaker 5>career creatively. Alex is not. Also, it's funny to hear

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<v Speaker 5>that Alex thinks that George Clooney is anti-New World Order

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<v Speaker 5>at this point because he becomes a huge globalist later.

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<v Speaker 5>And I did, I was telling you, I just watched

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<v Speaker 5>Hail Caesar. Yeah. And it's funny because George Clooney is

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<v Speaker 5>a communist.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Or he becomes seduced by the communists in that. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's funny to think what Alex would, his take on that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's a lot of shifting allegiances in the past

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<v Speaker 4>20 years.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's that, that link later is like, ah, he

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<v Speaker 7>was more fun at the Bush years is maybe the

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<v Speaker 7>best way of describing it. Like as long as he's

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<v Speaker 7>in a contained place, uh, If you have stuff in

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<v Speaker 7>a box and you don't let Pandora near it, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a perfectly serviceable box.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. It's easier to be tricked back then. Yeah. He

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<v Speaker 5>tricked people. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't have let it open. Got to keep that box closed,

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<v Speaker 4>my man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>So Alex is hitting on all the major, important, very

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<v Speaker 5>serious issues of the day.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Like. an episode of boston legal hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh boston legal has put out a lot of pro

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<v Speaker 3>new world order stuff in the past and what they're

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<v Speaker 3>having to do now is put out some anti-new world

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<v Speaker 3>order stuff or lose all credibility that's what tv's having

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<v Speaker 3>to do 24 dozen other tv shows.

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<v Speaker 4>Do it.

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<v Speaker 7>You lose all credibility there's a lot of the writers

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<v Speaker 7>david Shatner.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not bad people themselves. They're just told this is

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<v Speaker 3>the angle we want. This is what the quote advertisers want.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we're doing. I talk to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these people. They want to tell the truth. They

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<v Speaker 3>want to get the word out. And so more and

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<v Speaker 3>more of it is slipping out. Here's a little five-minute

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<v Speaker 3>piece from Boston Legal.

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<v Speaker 4>Five minutes of Boston Legal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>At the end, which is part of the false paradigm.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's roll that. Here it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Not counting commercials. Wait, is it an hour-long show or

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<v Speaker 5>a half hour?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it was a half hour.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. If it was an hour, then maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it's less percentage of the whole show.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Alex is playing like a scene. Yeah, it's basically a quarter.

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<v Speaker 5>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Nah.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's crazy how focused on pop culture he

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<v Speaker 5>is in this episode in particular. Like everything is a movie,

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<v Speaker 5>this band Cruiserweight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Boston Legal is, it seems so trivial.

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<v Speaker 7>If it were possible, and you know what? Maybe we're

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<v Speaker 7>thinking of it the wrong way. Maybe this is a

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<v Speaker 7>problem of focus. Maybe if we all focused. hard enough

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<v Speaker 7>on boston legal that would be the domino that sets

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<v Speaker 7>the rest of the problem is we're focusing on too

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<v Speaker 7>many different shows some people are on boston legal some

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<v Speaker 7>people on a cooking show no people you know like.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all about the legal but if you make boston

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<v Speaker 5>legal the most anti new world order show in the

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<v Speaker 5>world like perfect according to alex he's just gonna start

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<v Speaker 5>complaining about another procedural Yeah, that is true. It's just

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<v Speaker 5>going to be like, oh, Law and Order sucks.

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<v Speaker 7>It's almost like he prefers the complaining to the show.

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<v Speaker 7>It's almost like maybe he doesn't even watch Boston Legal.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's imagine that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a big Boston Legal guy.

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<v Speaker 5>You hate the law and you hate Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>He owns every one of Shatner's spoken words albums.

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<v Speaker 5>Fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, let's get to some substance.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>What's Bush up to?

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<v Speaker 4>What is Bush up to?

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a really scary report here where Bush signed

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<v Speaker 3>a bill that hadn't been passed. Not only is Bush

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<v Speaker 3>saying that if you don't pass a law like the

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<v Speaker 3>Patriot Act expansion, I will just enforce it without having

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<v Speaker 3>a law. That's called lawlessness. And when a leader engages

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<v Speaker 3>in lawlessness, it's called despotism. It's called a tyrant, tyranny.

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<v Speaker 3>A tyrant carries out a tyranny. They carry it out

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<v Speaker 3>upon the population, the serfs, the slaves. And we've got

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<v Speaker 3>him at these signing ceremonies where he signs bills and

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<v Speaker 3>then says, well, the bill says this, but I'm ordering

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<v Speaker 3>the executive with my statement, speaking like Zeus or like

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<v Speaker 3>Ramses or something.

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<v Speaker 4>By decree.

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<v Speaker 3>Nebuchadnezzar, that he is just going to, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we're actually going to do with this. And there's lawyers

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<v Speaker 3>there all writing it down.

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<v Speaker 5>Boston legal lawyers.

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<v Speaker 4>So all of this is pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 5>Bush is a despot for doing a thing, and Trump

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<v Speaker 5>is a great leader for doing the same thing. Alex

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<v Speaker 5>was pretty concerned with executive power in 2006, which looks

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<v Speaker 5>a little silly in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 8>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>This situation with Bush signing a bill that hadn't passed

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<v Speaker 5>isn't exactly like what it sounds like in Alex's telling

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<v Speaker 5>of it, but it is a bit of a mess.

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<v Speaker 5>This has to do with the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005,

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<v Speaker 5>which passed in both the House and Senate and then

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<v Speaker 5>was signed into law by Bush. However, Democratic Representative Henry

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<v Speaker 5>Waxman later pointed out that the version of the bill

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<v Speaker 5>that was passed in the House was different from the

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<v Speaker 5>one that was passed in the Senate. The Senate had

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<v Speaker 5>passed a version of the bill that only required Medicare

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<v Speaker 5>to pay for patients to have access to medical equipment

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<v Speaker 5>for 13 months, as opposed to the House version that

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<v Speaker 5>had it at 36 months. Waxman essentially argued that the

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<v Speaker 5>House had debated and were prepared to vote on what

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<v Speaker 5>they believed was a version of the bill that offered

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<v Speaker 5>patients more Medicare benefits, and then at the last minute

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<v Speaker 5>the bill was changed to match the Senate version. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not so much an allegation that Bush is signing non-existent bills.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more that a Democratic representative is accusing the GOP-controlled

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<v Speaker 5>Congress of not following the rules about altering bills before votes.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think Alex doesn't know the difference. Yeah. He's

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<v Speaker 5>just skimming a headline.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, the— It's so interesting. It's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea of like.

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<v Speaker 7>Should they have treated it with the same urgency that

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<v Speaker 7>Alex is lying that they should treat it with?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>Like in terms of the Republicans are breaking the rules

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<v Speaker 7>of Congress, like maybe we should have treated that like

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<v Speaker 7>that is Trump. right now do you know what i

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<v Speaker 7>mean like if we overreacted early would that have kept

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<v Speaker 7>us from being where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you know what i mean lawsuits were filed over

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<v Speaker 5>this right and like i i don't know if it

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<v Speaker 5>was actually changed right like uh like right before the

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<v Speaker 5>the like vote or whatever on it right this is

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<v Speaker 5>what waxman is alleging right um but but i i

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<v Speaker 5>don't know from like If it was, in fact, a swoop, then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe they should have. Maybe you should have treated it

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<v Speaker 5>with the urgency. Right. But if that's not the case,

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<v Speaker 5>then it is just someone making the allegation that this was.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, you know, if you act with the urgency and

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<v Speaker 5>it is hyped, then you, you know, you make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I suppose tactically, then what what should have

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<v Speaker 4>happened is.

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<v Speaker 7>Or like maybe what would have been most effective is

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<v Speaker 7>when they caught him on a thing, like a real

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<v Speaker 7>thing that they got him dead to rights. They just

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<v Speaker 7>way overkill it, you know, like just go so far

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<v Speaker 7>overboard because, hey, I got you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's nothing you can do about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Right. No, I think I think. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>and here the point that I'll agree with is the

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like, you know, what Alex even said in 2006.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that if you don't punish the executive, then you

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<v Speaker 5>end up deteriorating what is allowed to be done without punishment.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that. The issue when you say like

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<v Speaker 5>over respond to things when you're dead to rights. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that what we've seen is that people will

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<v Speaker 5>make it appear that somebody is dead to rights to something.

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<v Speaker 5>In order to get you to have that overreaction. So

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<v Speaker 5>once you set the standard of this is what will

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<v Speaker 5>cause the overreaction.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>People will change like what it means to be dead

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<v Speaker 5>to rights.

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<v Speaker 4>They do like to lie about stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I have known that with people.

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<v Speaker 5>So that gets dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>They like to try and manipulate things to get their way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy how that works.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what the right answer is. Even about 2006.

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<v Speaker 7>It would be easy in hindsight if it were easy

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<v Speaker 7>in the present.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know what is clear, though? I mean, we

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<v Speaker 5>can all agree on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Posers suck.

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<v Speaker 4>They do suck.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck posers.

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<v Speaker 4>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody out there posing.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop posing. Stop posing. We didn't stop it. We didn't

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<v Speaker 4>stop that.

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<v Speaker 5>Alex is not a poser.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, frankly, I look down on people that are

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<v Speaker 6>not genuine to begin with. I'm not a poser. He poses.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have time to pose.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so sick of posers.

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<v Speaker 6>And all their ilk. Posers aren't just posing for the public.

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<v Speaker 6>They're posing for themselves, their own little mental vision of themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>He says into a mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm digressing here. I just can't handle it anymore. Everything

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 3>is getting so nuts. It's getting crazier and crazier and

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<v Speaker 3>crazier and crazier and crazier and crazier and crazier.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know they're doing it on purpose to wear

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<v Speaker 6>us out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they'll announce they're going to attack Iran this

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<v Speaker 3>month for sure, and they won't do it for six

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<v Speaker 3>months a year, probably next March.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like Iraq. They just psychopathically do the same thing

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<v Speaker 6>over and over again. They know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just about hearing we're going to attack, we're going to attack,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of us at a sick level in our

0:27:49.260 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>own subconscious psyches, we're now expecting it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, get it over with.

0:27:53.690 --> 0:27:56.090
<v Speaker 3>And I've been here for a year hearing about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I expect it to happen. So when it

0:27:57.910 --> 0:27:59.830
<v Speaker 3>happens at a subconscious level, we're going to want it

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<v Speaker 3>to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Because they've built up the suspense. They play us like

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<v Speaker 6>a fiddle.

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<v Speaker 5>Poser.

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<v Speaker 7>They play us like a fiddle, he says, echoing throughout time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's weird.

0:28:19.060 --> 0:28:19.540
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:20.700
<v Speaker 5>It's the opposite of weird.

0:28:20.740 --> 0:28:23.540
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is what we expect. That is exactly what

0:28:23.619 --> 0:28:24.260
<v Speaker 4>is expected.

0:28:24.619 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 7>That is why we are here, because he could say that,

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.070
<v Speaker 7>and people would go, that sounds right.

0:28:31.220 --> 0:28:34.370
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's why Linklater would cast him in his movies,

0:28:34.470 --> 0:28:36.670
<v Speaker 5>because this sounds good, these fucking posers.

0:28:36.710 --> 0:28:40.630
<v Speaker 4>No, this guy sounds good. He is posing. That is

0:28:40.690 --> 0:28:41.310
<v Speaker 4>the problem.

0:28:42.010 --> 0:28:42.210
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

0:28:42.370 --> 0:28:45.310
<v Speaker 7>That is, it's the ultimate bluff. It's the poser bluff.

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<v Speaker 7>I hate posers. He says, posingly like it's, it's amazing.

0:28:49.310 --> 0:28:50.130
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, these evil people are going to attack Iran. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to talk myself into. So Alex complained some

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<v Speaker 5>more about the posers and I don't think what he's

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 5>talking about is posers. I think what he's talking about

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<v Speaker 5>is people who take on an identity that has to

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<v Speaker 5>do with like cultural groups, right?

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.460
<v Speaker 5>Like maybe you're into rock or maybe you're into rap.

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<v Speaker 7>Like anybody who's not into whiteness is posing by pretending

0:29:19.150 --> 0:29:21.350
<v Speaker 7>to be into rap or hip hop or something when

0:29:21.390 --> 0:29:24.270
<v Speaker 7>in reality you should be into being white.

0:29:24.330 --> 0:29:25.810
<v Speaker 5>That's kind of what it feels like.

0:29:25.970 --> 0:29:26.310
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:29:26.490 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 6>And I'm dumbfounded. I am thunderstruck.

0:29:30.940 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've been hit by a bolt of lightning.

0:29:37.410 --> 0:29:42.820
<v Speaker 6>I'm living on the dark side of the moon or something.

0:29:42.940 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 4>A lot of song titles.

0:29:45.140 --> 0:29:45.940
<v Speaker 6>And I see the.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:50.220
<v Speaker 3>Mind control zombies everywhere. Really, the telltale sign is the pose,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.990
<v Speaker 3>is what I call it. You see these people, these adults...

0:29:54.370 --> 0:29:56.390
<v Speaker 3>You've got the cowboy type and the hippie type and

0:29:56.410 --> 0:29:58.570
<v Speaker 3>the yuppie type and the trendy types and all the

0:29:58.610 --> 0:29:59.110
<v Speaker 3>other types.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're all.

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<v Speaker 3>Like dress-up, like little six-year-olds like to dress up like

0:30:03.990 --> 0:30:08.190
<v Speaker 3>pirates or dress up like astronauts or army or cowboys

0:30:08.250 --> 0:30:08.870
<v Speaker 3>and Indians.

0:30:08.930 --> 0:30:10.590
<v Speaker 6>And you go out in the backyard, and you're in

0:30:10.630 --> 0:30:11.570
<v Speaker 6>an imaginary world.

0:30:12.370 --> 0:30:14.590
<v Speaker 3>And I've caught myself in years past when I was

0:30:14.630 --> 0:30:15.990
<v Speaker 3>a kid doing this, and I figured out, hey, that's

0:30:16.030 --> 0:30:20.450
<v Speaker 3>not the real world. I mean, we propagandize ourselves. We

0:30:20.550 --> 0:30:22.610
<v Speaker 3>rationalize bad things we do.

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<v Speaker 6>That's posing.

0:30:27.300 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 3>When you rationalize something, you're lying to yourself so much

0:30:30.060 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 3>of that. And I just see mesmerized populations who've taken

0:30:33.500 --> 0:30:34.810
<v Speaker 3>on false identities.

0:30:34.460 --> 0:30:36.590
<v Speaker 6>That the media hung out. You know, the media puts

0:30:36.610 --> 0:30:36.810
<v Speaker 6>out a.

0:30:36.810 --> 0:30:39.290
<v Speaker 3>Buffet of lies for you and all these different selections

0:30:39.330 --> 0:30:42.030
<v Speaker 3>and all these different flavors and all these different ideas.

0:30:47.630 --> 0:30:49.110
<v Speaker 6>And they lay them out there for you.

0:30:50.820 --> 0:30:52.700
<v Speaker 3>And they hope you come and select one of the

0:30:52.820 --> 0:30:56.150
<v Speaker 3>identities they put out for you through television, through the sitcoms,

0:30:56.170 --> 0:30:59.690
<v Speaker 3>the dramas, the theater, because we are social creatures.

0:30:59.730 --> 0:31:01.610
<v Speaker 6>We emulate the leaders. We idolize.

0:31:02.550 --> 0:31:05.210
<v Speaker 3>We fashion ourselves after someone. You're supposed to fashion yourself

0:31:05.250 --> 0:31:06.990
<v Speaker 3>after your father, your mother, your.

0:31:06.870 --> 0:31:07.470
<v Speaker 6>Aunt, your uncle.

0:31:07.490 --> 0:31:11.580
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to fashion yourself after heroes that have fought

0:31:11.620 --> 0:31:12.740
<v Speaker 3>against overwhelming odds.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:14.620
<v Speaker 6>That was the classical heroes.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 3>The old man who works his whole life to provide

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.930
<v Speaker 3>for his parents died. You know, that's the heroes. That's

0:31:22.950 --> 0:31:26.050
<v Speaker 3>what you're supposed to fashion yourself after. Not some gang

0:31:26.110 --> 0:31:27.530
<v Speaker 3>member is giggling.

0:31:28.010 --> 0:31:32.580
<v Speaker 7>Non-white person movie with their punked out clothes hanging down

0:31:32.620 --> 0:31:33.380
<v Speaker 7>around their ankles.

0:31:35.500 --> 0:31:39.100
<v Speaker 3>Not some punked-out population that just thinks that it's all

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:44.250
<v Speaker 3>just pick some genre that you're going to be part

0:31:44.370 --> 0:31:48.010
<v Speaker 3>of and then go out there and emulate it. And

0:31:48.030 --> 0:31:50.050
<v Speaker 3>then you're never really truly alive. And you talk to

0:31:50.090 --> 0:31:53.930
<v Speaker 3>these people who are posing, and they just.

0:31:53.530 --> 0:31:56.910
<v Speaker 6>Aren't even alive. They aren't even real. And I'm sick

0:31:57.020 --> 0:31:57.210
<v Speaker 6>of it.

0:32:00.980 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I want people to begin by realizing that they're lying

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to themselves.

0:32:05.100 --> 0:32:07.540
<v Speaker 5>That would be good, Alex. That would be a nice

0:32:07.900 --> 0:32:13.300
<v Speaker 5>little start. So there's obviously some kind of racial component

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:14.420
<v Speaker 5>to this. Feels like it.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>It seems to veer into, like, why are your pants sagging?

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.380
<v Speaker 7>Yep, feels very the black youths are up to a

0:32:23.420 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 7>thing again.

0:32:24.540 --> 0:32:26.580
<v Speaker 5>That's some of the territory that this is in. But

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.900
<v Speaker 5>then even beyond that, it also has the same feeling as.

0:32:30.230 --> 0:32:30.730
<v Speaker 6>Like, that.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.820
<v Speaker 5>Like, you rural people out there going to a rodeo.

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.940
<v Speaker 4>Just let people enjoy their lives, Alex.

0:32:37.420 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 7>Also, like, so are all of those things poses?

0:32:42.110 --> 0:32:43.420
<v Speaker 4>Like, the idea of a poser.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.490
<v Speaker 5>Cowboy? A hippie?

0:32:44.530 --> 0:32:47.190
<v Speaker 7>Right, right. But, like, the poser is the person who

0:32:47.270 --> 0:32:49.910
<v Speaker 7>goes to the group under false presenses.

0:32:49.950 --> 0:32:52.050
<v Speaker 4>They are not that person. They're lying to get into

0:32:52.070 --> 0:32:52.330
<v Speaker 4>the group.

0:32:52.350 --> 0:32:53.510
<v Speaker 5>But they're all real hippies.

0:32:53.570 --> 0:32:56.010
<v Speaker 7>But there have to be real hippies for that group

0:32:56.090 --> 0:32:56.550
<v Speaker 7>to exist.

0:32:56.770 --> 0:32:58.770
<v Speaker 4>Otherwise, it's a group of posers, in which case they

0:32:58.850 --> 0:33:00.890
<v Speaker 4>all belong there together.

0:33:01.150 --> 0:33:02.850
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it then becomes an authentic group.

0:33:02.910 --> 0:33:03.490
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

0:33:03.590 --> 0:33:04.870
<v Speaker 5>Just of a second order.

0:33:04.970 --> 0:33:05.910
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:33:05.970 --> 0:33:08.930
<v Speaker 7>So in reality, what Alex is describing is he doesn't

0:33:08.990 --> 0:33:11.450
<v Speaker 7>like people who aren't exactly him.

0:33:11.870 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 4>And his problem with him is he doesn't like them.

0:33:15.030 --> 0:33:17.790
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't like groups that aren't homogenous.

0:33:17.850 --> 0:33:18.250
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:33:19.430 --> 0:33:22.430
<v Speaker 5>Very specifically. People who don't belong in those groups going

0:33:22.470 --> 0:33:23.010
<v Speaker 5>into those groups.

0:33:23.030 --> 0:33:26.770
<v Speaker 7>Conservatively homogenous groups. And when the sun goes down, ah,

0:33:26.790 --> 0:33:27.630
<v Speaker 7>let's not worry about it.

0:33:27.930 --> 0:33:30.250
<v Speaker 5>I do like how he can see that someone taking

0:33:30.330 --> 0:33:32.890
<v Speaker 5>on the persona of a hippie or a cowboy, that

0:33:32.910 --> 0:33:35.969
<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff, like, hey, you're doing that falsely. But

0:33:35.990 --> 0:33:39.820
<v Speaker 5>he doesn't see crusader against the New World Order guy

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.730
<v Speaker 5>who gets visions from God as being... Like an identity

0:33:43.770 --> 0:33:45.810
<v Speaker 5>that he takes on posingly.

0:33:45.930 --> 0:33:48.850
<v Speaker 7>I mean, hey, you could even take it a little bit,

0:33:48.930 --> 0:33:52.230
<v Speaker 7>step back and just go, he's posing as Rush Limbaugh

0:33:52.310 --> 0:33:53.270
<v Speaker 7>for a good long time.

0:33:53.490 --> 0:33:56.910
<v Speaker 5>He's posing as like a country boy who can skin

0:33:56.970 --> 0:33:58.940
<v Speaker 5>a buck and run a trot line and do his

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.380
<v Speaker 5>little wah-wah voice. Yeah, it's all fucking posing.

0:34:02.420 --> 0:34:03.180
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's a poser.

0:34:04.220 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 5>So he is, but one thing he's not is a

0:34:06.820 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 5>Bible thumper.

0:34:10.450 --> 0:34:12.669
<v Speaker 4>Pause.

0:34:12.770 --> 0:34:14.469
<v Speaker 6>I know what you call a Bible thumper. I'm not

0:34:14.489 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 6>really a Pharisee.

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't get around telling everybody about the beams in

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.739
<v Speaker 3>their own eye because I've got plenty of beams.

0:34:19.500 --> 0:34:20.020
<v Speaker 6>Of my own.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 3>But I do love God, and I'm a Christian.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.470
<v Speaker 6>I don't hide that. But this is a news program.

0:34:25.190 --> 0:34:27.990
<v Speaker 3>But all over the country, we have had Christians being

0:34:28.010 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 3>arrested for their speech, arrested for protesting, arrested for demonstrating,

0:34:31.820 --> 0:34:33.819
<v Speaker 3>not even outside abortion clinics, but just out on the

0:34:33.860 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>streets of major American cities. And we've had liberals getting

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>arrested with a T-shirt saying, I'm against the war, and

0:34:39.380 --> 0:34:45.150
<v Speaker 3>there's 500 unpermitted pro-Bush people, but the demonstrator that's anti-Bush

0:34:45.210 --> 0:34:45.870
<v Speaker 3>goes to jail.

0:34:46.310 --> 0:34:49.170
<v Speaker 5>This isn't a true description of Alex, but it's exactly

0:34:49.230 --> 0:34:51.830
<v Speaker 5>what he needs people to believe he is in order

0:34:51.870 --> 0:34:54.770
<v Speaker 5>for his shit to have any chance of success. Alex

0:34:54.810 --> 0:34:59.210
<v Speaker 5>isn't just a Bible thumper, he's an extreme right-wing Christian fundamentalist.

0:34:59.910 --> 0:35:02.700
<v Speaker 5>He wants to use the allure of conservative politics and

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.580
<v Speaker 5>pretending to be interested in the Constitution as a Trojan

0:35:05.620 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 5>horse to evangelize to the audience about his very bizarre

0:35:09.140 --> 0:35:12.900
<v Speaker 5>and white-identity-laden version of Christianity, which he wants to be

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.110
<v Speaker 5>the organizing principle of the world. He believes that the

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 5>devil is running the globalists, and the only way to

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 5>defeat them is if the US effectively becomes a theocracy

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 5>where the secular laws are based on his religious beliefs.

0:35:25.900 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 5>That's what he's evolved into, and if he were the

0:35:28.180 --> 0:35:31.060
<v Speaker 5>person he claims to be here in 2006, he would

0:35:31.100 --> 0:35:34.540
<v Speaker 5>have no interest in becoming what he's become. If this

0:35:34.580 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 5>were a sincere description of his agenda and who he is,

0:35:37.420 --> 0:35:39.980
<v Speaker 5>then Alex would have resisted the call to become a

0:35:40.020 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 5>demagogue that he's become, quite clearly, because he would have

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 5>known that there was a plank in his own eye

0:35:46.340 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 5>and that he was an imperfect person. He wouldn't become this.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 5>It's so important at this point in his career to

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.100
<v Speaker 5>pretend that he gives a shit about the anti-Bush protesters

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.500
<v Speaker 5>on the left, because if he isn't able to trick

0:35:57.540 --> 0:36:00.029
<v Speaker 5>them into thinking that he's on their side, then his

0:36:00.070 --> 0:36:02.810
<v Speaker 5>show is dead in the water. He's destined to just

0:36:02.850 --> 0:36:05.250
<v Speaker 5>be another Bill Cooper, who has an impact on the

0:36:05.330 --> 0:36:08.770
<v Speaker 5>underground culture, but he never gets rich or influential in

0:36:08.810 --> 0:36:11.430
<v Speaker 5>a way that he gets to enjoy before he dies.

0:36:12.450 --> 0:36:15.020
<v Speaker 5>The stuff with Linklater is a perfect encapsulation of that.

0:36:15.500 --> 0:36:18.410
<v Speaker 5>If Linklater understood who Alex was and what he was about,

0:36:18.550 --> 0:36:21.130
<v Speaker 5>he never would have cast him in either of those movies.

0:36:21.430 --> 0:36:25.230
<v Speaker 5>And Alex definitely knows that. It's why Linklater said, I

0:36:25.650 --> 0:36:28.819
<v Speaker 5>can't say he's not a good manipulator. Because he was

0:36:28.910 --> 0:36:34.260
<v Speaker 5>manipulating people into thinking that he's funny and like, oh yeah, harmless,

0:36:34.380 --> 0:36:38.859
<v Speaker 5>kind of goofy, dumb shit yelling when he's actually Trojan

0:36:38.910 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 5>horsing people. really extreme politics.

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 7>Yep and if you don't fall for that form of

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.180
<v Speaker 7>manipulation where he's fun and interesting he'll uh go on

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.860
<v Speaker 7>his show and say he'll gut you like a pig

0:36:50.219 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 7>in a different form of manipulation that'll somehow get you

0:36:52.500 --> 0:36:54.740
<v Speaker 7>to invite him back on your show where suddenly you'll

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:55.850
<v Speaker 7>be manipulated again.

0:36:55.710 --> 0:36:57.950
<v Speaker 4>Into thinking that he's a very funny and fun friend

0:36:57.969 --> 0:36:58.890
<v Speaker 4>to be around.

0:36:58.730 --> 0:37:02.130
<v Speaker 5>And then your hippie friend will interview him later.

0:37:02.230 --> 0:37:04.850
<v Speaker 4>And then Duncan will fucking show up like an asshole.

0:37:04.910 --> 0:37:07.129
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of which, I want to correct something slightly from

0:37:07.170 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 5>that Duncan Trussell episode. I mentioned that Daria emailed us,

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.299
<v Speaker 5>and I think I got the year wrong on that.

0:37:13.860 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 5>I think it was brought to my attention that that

0:37:17.140 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 5>might have been earlier than... I years blur together.

0:37:20.700 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are.

0:37:21.580 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 5>But I didn't want to give people the impression that

0:37:23.410 --> 0:37:24.210
<v Speaker 5>there was like.

0:37:24.290 --> 0:37:25.810
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like a week after we started.

0:37:25.870 --> 0:37:27.310
<v Speaker 5>No, but it was earlier than it should have.

0:37:27.330 --> 0:37:28.930
<v Speaker 4>It was way earlier than it should have been.

0:37:29.030 --> 0:37:29.270
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:37:29.450 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 4>And it would have been enough to fuck us up.

0:37:31.010 --> 0:37:35.060
<v Speaker 5>Yep. Yep. So, Alex, when he's saying this stuff about

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 5>he's not a Bible thumper, he's not. It's in service.

0:37:38.460 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 4>He's lying when he's lying about these things.

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yes, it is a lie. But it was also

0:37:42.860 --> 0:37:45.609
<v Speaker 5>in service of leading up to a guest that he's

0:37:45.650 --> 0:37:46.089
<v Speaker 5>going to have.

0:37:46.150 --> 0:37:46.530
<v Speaker 6>Gotcha.

0:37:46.690 --> 0:37:48.950
<v Speaker 5>Which is a dude who got fired from his radio

0:37:48.969 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 5>show because he criticized Israel.

0:37:51.500 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 6>Uh-oh. And I predict.

0:37:52.780 --> 0:37:57.530
<v Speaker 3>That our guest that we've got on... who this right

0:37:57.570 --> 0:38:00.170
<v Speaker 3>now is going to be blessed after he's been punished

0:38:00.190 --> 0:38:00.830
<v Speaker 3>for free speech.

0:38:00.850 --> 0:38:02.150
<v Speaker 6>And I don't attack Israel.

0:38:02.190 --> 0:38:05.370
<v Speaker 3>You know, I get criticized for not even being neutral

0:38:05.469 --> 0:38:07.609
<v Speaker 3>on it, but just saying, you know, that, well, I mean,

0:38:07.690 --> 0:38:10.890
<v Speaker 3>Israel could have a state if it wasn't so anti-Christian

0:38:10.910 --> 0:38:14.820
<v Speaker 3>and anti-Muslim and anti-Jew. I mean, it's atheist. The Labor

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.980
<v Speaker 3>Zionist funded Hitler. That's now public.

0:38:18.380 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 6>So I get criticized for not bashing Israel.

0:38:20.500 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 3>But Christian radio host fired for criticizing Israel, 20-year host,

0:38:24.540 --> 0:38:25.860
<v Speaker 3>Dale Crowley, with high ratings.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 6>Told you can't talk about that.

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.060
<v Speaker 3>Michael Collins Piper, American Free Press, the un-American thought police

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:36.940
<v Speaker 3>operating on American soil, have struck once again this time.

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 6>Their victim is veteran Christian evangelist Dale Crowley Jr.

0:38:41.820 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 5>So Alex's guest is this guy named Dale Crowley, and

0:38:44.420 --> 0:38:47.570
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't fired for talking about Israel. He had a

0:38:47.590 --> 0:38:50.629
<v Speaker 5>show called Focus on Israel, which the station was no

0:38:50.670 --> 0:38:54.140
<v Speaker 5>longer interested in airing. It wasn't like he was a

0:38:54.219 --> 0:38:57.190
<v Speaker 5>normal old Christian talk show host who one day decided

0:38:57.210 --> 0:38:59.330
<v Speaker 5>he was going to start complaining about Israel and then

0:38:59.370 --> 0:39:00.610
<v Speaker 5>the station shut him down.

0:39:00.690 --> 0:39:00.850
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:39:01.010 --> 0:39:02.350
<v Speaker 5>It was more of a thing where his show isn't

0:39:02.370 --> 0:39:05.469
<v Speaker 5>what they want to dare anymore. Yeah. And honestly, he

0:39:05.550 --> 0:39:07.739
<v Speaker 5>brings up like they talk to him and he's like,

0:39:08.219 --> 0:39:10.140
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't getting paid anything for it. It's like a

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.580
<v Speaker 5>local radio show. Oh, my God.

0:39:12.620 --> 0:39:14.500
<v Speaker 4>So they just they just were like, hey, don't show

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:15.060
<v Speaker 4>up anymore.

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're fine. You are getting a little bit weird.

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.850
<v Speaker 7>And they were like, we didn't even pay your gas

0:39:19.890 --> 0:39:22.430
<v Speaker 7>to get here. We're saving you money by keeping you

0:39:22.450 --> 0:39:23.810
<v Speaker 7>from coming to the radio station.

0:39:23.830 --> 0:39:26.610
<v Speaker 5>It's like volunteer community radio. And Alex is acting like, oh,

0:39:26.630 --> 0:39:28.710
<v Speaker 5>it's the highest rated thing in the world. It might

0:39:28.750 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 5>as well be like. on uh salem or westwood one

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 5>or whatever like come.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 7>On Like the idea of not knowing the difference between

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:41.580
<v Speaker 7>talking about Israel and having a show called Focus on Israel.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.420
<v Speaker 5>I even think like that name could exist in a

0:39:44.460 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 5>benign place, but we're going to hear some things that

0:39:46.540 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 5>this guy has to say. And I think that you

0:39:48.300 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 5>get a pretty good sense of why you might not

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.430
<v Speaker 5>air his shit. So certain people are really invested in

0:39:54.489 --> 0:39:56.819
<v Speaker 5>pushing the narrative as if you were fired because he

0:39:56.890 --> 0:39:59.790
<v Speaker 5>dared to criticize Israel. And those people are Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:00.890 --> 0:40:01.630
<v Speaker 4>Alex is reading a.

0:40:01.610 --> 0:40:03.790
<v Speaker 5>Story about this from the American Free Press, which is

0:40:03.830 --> 0:40:07.770
<v Speaker 5>a flagrantly anti-Semitic outlet founded by white supremacist Willis Cardo.

0:40:08.350 --> 0:40:10.850
<v Speaker 5>The writer of the piece Alex is reading is Michael

0:40:10.870 --> 0:40:13.590
<v Speaker 5>Collins Piper, who is the former editor for the Liberty

0:40:13.630 --> 0:40:17.690
<v Speaker 5>Lobby and has a deep history of anti-Semitic slop. That said,

0:40:17.950 --> 0:40:20.729
<v Speaker 5>Dale Crowley is not just a guy who criticized Israel either.

0:40:20.770 --> 0:40:23.270
<v Speaker 5>He definitely was someone who engaged in a fair amount

0:40:23.290 --> 0:40:26.850
<v Speaker 5>of anti-Semitic content and viewed America as a country for Christians.

0:40:27.250 --> 0:40:29.710
<v Speaker 5>So it makes sense that the American Free Press folks

0:40:29.910 --> 0:40:32.330
<v Speaker 5>want to make the most out of him getting dropped

0:40:32.390 --> 0:40:35.220
<v Speaker 5>by his station, except he didn't even get dropped by

0:40:35.260 --> 0:40:38.540
<v Speaker 5>the station. He had a 15 minute show that he

0:40:38.580 --> 0:40:42.940
<v Speaker 5>did on Saturdays and then a weekly like a weekday show.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 5>They were fine with his weekday show. Yeah, it's just

0:40:46.140 --> 0:40:48.299
<v Speaker 5>the Saturday one. They're like the title.

0:40:47.980 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Being focused on Israel.

0:40:49.140 --> 0:40:51.660
<v Speaker 5>That one is that one specifically. You might be going

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:52.900
<v Speaker 5>a little bit far with this one.

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, right, right.

0:40:53.380 --> 0:40:54.819
<v Speaker 5>Not interested in that. Maybe just don't put it on

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 5>the radio show. And then they also were like, you

0:40:58.180 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 5>can air your show. You just got to record it

0:41:00.020 --> 0:41:01.940
<v Speaker 5>in advance. We're just not letting you on a live mic.

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Wild.

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:02.820
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:41:03.300 --> 0:41:03.860
<v Speaker 4>Wild.

0:41:04.300 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 7>So they have gone out of their way beyond what

0:41:07.180 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 7>anybody would consider reasonable to keep this guy on the

0:41:11.180 --> 0:41:12.760
<v Speaker 7>air spewing bullshit.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.820
<v Speaker 5>Because he's done a local access public community radio show forever.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.549
<v Speaker 5>It's like, let's not kick the old man out. Yeah.

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:20.950
<v Speaker 5>Let's give him an option.

0:41:20.969 --> 0:41:23.989
<v Speaker 4>Oh, he said Nazi. What old man isn't a Nazi?

0:41:24.090 --> 0:41:26.250
<v Speaker 5>A Nazi is fine if you're not on a live mic.

0:41:26.790 --> 0:41:28.790
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, hey, we can work with that.

0:41:29.530 --> 0:41:30.010
<v Speaker 5>Oh, man.

0:41:30.330 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 7>I do appreciate those, like, when you can just sense

0:41:34.660 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 7>that those guys back in the day would be like.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.900
<v Speaker 7>I hear something in the world out there. There's something

0:41:40.940 --> 0:41:43.170
<v Speaker 7>I can lie about. What is that hit?

0:41:43.770 --> 0:41:45.850
<v Speaker 4>I can work with this. 15 minutes?

0:41:46.190 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 7>Oh, this guy was the crusader of justice and peace.

0:41:50.930 --> 0:41:54.989
<v Speaker 5>He was just a normal, great kind of guy, Christian.

0:41:55.730 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 5>He just wanted what's best for everyone. And then he

0:41:57.820 --> 0:42:01.250
<v Speaker 5>dared to question Israel. And then they fired him for it.

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Just like if you have the courage to question things.

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 5>The reason that that story is incredibly appealing to these

0:42:07.930 --> 0:42:10.489
<v Speaker 5>folks like the American Free Press in the past is

0:42:10.550 --> 0:42:13.790
<v Speaker 5>they want to appear like they're just questioning Israel and

0:42:13.810 --> 0:42:15.529
<v Speaker 5>being critical of the government and shit.

0:42:15.710 --> 0:42:15.810
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:42:15.830 --> 0:42:18.009
<v Speaker 5>And they are, in fact, anti-Semitic Nazis. Right.

0:42:18.290 --> 0:42:20.490
<v Speaker 7>And they've also probably got some stuff where they've probably

0:42:20.510 --> 0:42:21.629
<v Speaker 7>been fired from a bunch of jobs.

0:42:21.570 --> 0:42:22.109
<v Speaker 5>For the exact same reason.

0:42:22.130 --> 0:42:23.410
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm sure there's some bitterness. Yeah.

0:42:23.489 --> 0:42:25.310
<v Speaker 4>I bet there's a lot of bitterness among them.

0:42:25.510 --> 0:42:25.700
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:26.300 --> 0:42:27.590
<v Speaker 5>They're angry for sure.

0:42:27.930 --> 0:42:28.069
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:42:28.410 --> 0:42:32.740
<v Speaker 5>So Alex, in the present day, has really been trying

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 5>to pretend that like, hey, Israel, AIPAC, that kind of stuff.

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 5>It never really was that big of a deal for me.

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 5>But now it is.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:40.590
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:42:40.650 --> 0:42:43.009
<v Speaker 5>Because they have co-opted Trump's administration.

0:42:43.070 --> 0:42:44.609
<v Speaker 6>I've changed. Right. Yes.

0:42:45.010 --> 0:42:45.530
<v Speaker 2>Except.

0:42:45.870 --> 0:42:46.170
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:42:46.550 --> 0:42:49.270
<v Speaker 5>He seems to be saying a lot of the same

0:42:49.310 --> 0:42:51.210
<v Speaker 5>shit in 2006.

0:42:51.210 --> 0:42:55.710
<v Speaker 8>I don't know what triggered this decision. It could have

0:42:55.730 --> 0:42:58.770
<v Speaker 8>been the White House, Homeland Security. I've been opposed to

0:42:58.810 --> 0:43:03.149
<v Speaker 8>this Israel's war against Iraq for over three years now

0:43:03.230 --> 0:43:04.219
<v Speaker 8>before it began.

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:04.310
<v Speaker 5>The.

0:43:08.310 --> 0:43:14.459
<v Speaker 8>The Federal Communications Commission might have been pressured to talk

0:43:14.500 --> 0:43:18.260
<v Speaker 8>about anti-Semitism and hate speech, which the program is not.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.980
<v Speaker 8>I'm not a hateful person. I've broadcast 1,000 broadcasts of

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 8>the Focus on Israel. It's a Bible study program. I

0:43:26.780 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 8>close every broadcast with Romans 10.1. My heart's desire and

0:43:31.430 --> 0:43:34.210
<v Speaker 8>prayer to God for Israel is that Israel will be saved.

0:43:35.700 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And the AIPAC people have got it banned in Israel

0:43:39.300 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to say that.

0:43:40.060 --> 0:43:43.100
<v Speaker 6>We want Jews to come to Jesus. And so now, buddy,

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:47.020
<v Speaker 6>you can't say it in Washington. Pretty soon it will

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.259
<v Speaker 6>be greater Israel here.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 8>Well, that's exactly right. I've been coasting along here for

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.460
<v Speaker 8>20 years. I thought I was untouchable. I didn't. I

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.180
<v Speaker 8>thought if they left me alone for 20 years telling

0:44:01.219 --> 0:44:02.180
<v Speaker 8>the truth on the subject.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.340
<v Speaker 6>You're a canary in the coal mine, buddy. We're in

0:44:04.380 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 6>the 11th hour, Pastor.

0:44:05.820 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 5>What the fuck are you talking about? You're not supposed

0:44:08.020 --> 0:44:10.660
<v Speaker 5>to believe this in 2006. We're going to be.

0:44:10.700 --> 0:44:13.900
<v Speaker 4>Hey, listen. We're just going to be part of greater Israel. What? Wow.

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:15.380
<v Speaker 4>That happened fast.

0:44:15.700 --> 0:44:17.819
<v Speaker 7>Because this guy doesn't get to spend 15 minutes on

0:44:17.860 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 7>a live mic? Are you saying that because he has

0:44:20.390 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 7>to pre-record... That means we're about to become greater Israel.

0:44:24.700 --> 0:44:26.940
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's evidence that this is a Zog.

0:44:27.100 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, he is the canary in the coal mine.

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:29.620
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:44:29.860 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 7>A very, very specific small canary in a non-existent coal mine.

0:44:34.219 --> 0:44:34.930
<v Speaker 5>It's time to pray.

0:44:35.030 --> 0:44:37.530
<v Speaker 4>It is time to pray. Yeah.

0:44:37.650 --> 0:44:41.350
<v Speaker 5>I think that this is he shouldn't have these takes

0:44:41.610 --> 0:44:44.650
<v Speaker 5>in 2006 if the way that he's acting in 2026

0:44:44.650 --> 0:44:45.250
<v Speaker 5>was sincere.

0:44:45.310 --> 0:44:45.570
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:44:45.690 --> 0:44:48.180
<v Speaker 5>But it's not. No, it's it's all bullshit.

0:44:48.300 --> 0:44:48.460
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 5>And that's cool.

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.830
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I imagine if we really, like, went down and

0:44:53.870 --> 0:44:57.110
<v Speaker 7>diagrammed it day by day, there would be a corresponding

0:44:57.290 --> 0:45:01.830
<v Speaker 7>ebb and flow that goes along with how far the

0:45:01.910 --> 0:45:04.430
<v Speaker 7>furthest right is, you know? Like, as they ebb and

0:45:04.469 --> 0:45:08.140
<v Speaker 7>flow about who's the most or whatever, he's maybe two

0:45:08.180 --> 0:45:11.420
<v Speaker 7>steps below that, but in the same kind of wavelength.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.260
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think so. And I think as it relates

0:45:16.300 --> 0:45:23.029
<v Speaker 5>to Israel, it's his... His criticisms, I think, I don't

0:45:23.090 --> 0:45:26.259
<v Speaker 5>know if they're ever valid. Right. But I think that

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:30.700
<v Speaker 5>Alex knows well enough that at this point in history,

0:45:31.020 --> 0:45:35.060
<v Speaker 5>in around 2006, the only relevant people who are talking

0:45:35.140 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 5>about Zogs and the Israeli influence on the government are Nazis.

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:45:44.020 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 5>There are people who are making valid points about the

0:45:48.410 --> 0:45:51.180
<v Speaker 5>Israeli government. Uh, even in this time.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:51.540
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 5>But they are not super culturally relevant.

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:45:54.180 --> 0:45:57.260
<v Speaker 5>They're the people who are the loudest are the people

0:45:57.300 --> 0:46:00.629
<v Speaker 5>who are like maybe getting guns together and talking about

0:46:00.670 --> 0:46:02.370
<v Speaker 5>how the U S is going to be greater Israel.

0:46:02.430 --> 0:46:02.690
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:46:03.430 --> 0:46:04.370
<v Speaker 4>He knows that.

0:46:04.510 --> 0:46:04.670
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:46:04.810 --> 0:46:05.850
<v Speaker 4>And he knew that then.

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 5>He was signaling to those people because he wanted them

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 5>to be part of his audience in 2006. In 2026,

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.820
<v Speaker 5>he also still knows this.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:46:16.420 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 5>So he doesn't want to take responsibility for being involved

0:46:20.010 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 5>in that world in the past that he knows was

0:46:22.820 --> 0:46:26.250
<v Speaker 5>so dominated by Nazis and religious zealots. Right.

0:46:26.730 --> 0:46:28.210
<v Speaker 7>Well, because then he would have to admit that he's

0:46:28.250 --> 0:46:30.370
<v Speaker 7>partially responsible for us being here in the first place.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.549
<v Speaker 7>So there's really no reason for him to fake any

0:46:32.590 --> 0:46:36.050
<v Speaker 7>kind of bullshit anyways and just be like, ha ha,

0:46:36.270 --> 0:46:36.790
<v Speaker 7>I did it.

0:46:38.070 --> 0:46:38.410
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:46:38.969 --> 0:46:42.750
<v Speaker 5>And like, I think that it's obviously like it is

0:46:42.810 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 5>not fundamentally anti-Semitic to disagree with the state of Israel.

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:47.500
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:46:47.820 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 5>It's not anti-Semitic, but it does seem to attract a

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 5>lot of anti-Semitic folks. Right. So you should take people

0:46:55.500 --> 0:46:59.130
<v Speaker 5>based on how they sound. What are your complaints? How

0:46:59.150 --> 0:47:02.350
<v Speaker 5>are you articulating these things? And I don't think these

0:47:02.390 --> 0:47:04.370
<v Speaker 5>guys sound like anti-Semites at all.

0:47:05.190 --> 0:47:06.969
<v Speaker 3>All you're trying to do is, I guess, continue what

0:47:07.030 --> 0:47:10.070
<v Speaker 3>Jesus and, of course, people like up on the mountain

0:47:10.110 --> 0:47:10.810
<v Speaker 3>Moses said.

0:47:11.250 --> 0:47:14.470
<v Speaker 8>Well, that's exactly right. And Jesus got in trouble. My

0:47:14.910 --> 0:47:20.580
<v Speaker 8>Habib Sheber said to me many times, if Jesus had

0:47:20.620 --> 0:47:23.380
<v Speaker 8>dealt with the Jews of his day like Jerry Falwell

0:47:23.460 --> 0:47:26.620
<v Speaker 8>deals with the Jews today, he never would have been crucified.

0:47:26.780 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh, boy.

0:47:28.450 --> 0:47:32.290
<v Speaker 8>So we're right where we were in New Testament times, Alex.

0:47:32.469 --> 0:47:33.710
<v Speaker 6>Well, that's what it's all about.

0:47:33.770 --> 0:47:37.490
<v Speaker 3>It's about a bunch of Satanists in control and Jesus

0:47:37.530 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to overturn it.

0:47:38.660 --> 0:47:40.899
<v Speaker 6>It's the same thing today. We'll be right back. Stay

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:41.380
<v Speaker 6>with us.

0:47:45.060 --> 0:47:45.860
<v Speaker 5>So that sounds bad.

0:47:46.380 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 7>So if I understand correctly, if Jesus had oppressed and

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.959
<v Speaker 7>subjugated the Jews, well.

0:47:54.700 --> 0:47:55.420
<v Speaker 4>That would have done it.

0:47:56.290 --> 0:47:59.050
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that this comes off as anything other

0:47:59.150 --> 0:48:00.190
<v Speaker 5>than anti-Semitic.

0:48:00.430 --> 0:48:01.910
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's pretty anti-Semitic.

0:48:02.050 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 5>It has not much to do with governmental criticism.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:07.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:07.700 --> 0:48:10.660
<v Speaker 5>Even cultural criticisms, largely.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:48:11.300 --> 0:48:15.420
<v Speaker 5>It is treated, he is using Satanists as a proxy

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.100
<v Speaker 5>for Jews.

0:48:16.300 --> 0:48:17.300
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:17.469 --> 0:48:21.009
<v Speaker 5>And that's, you know, that's what the American Free Press

0:48:21.050 --> 0:48:26.220
<v Speaker 5>might like. Anyway, Dale sucks.

0:48:26.580 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.540
<v Speaker 6>What has happened to Christians in America? What's happened to Christendom?

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:38.219
<v Speaker 8>A lot of it, Alex, is a consequence of Schofield dispensationalism.

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry?

0:48:39.260 --> 0:48:42.890
<v Speaker 8>When Schofield wrote his notes, he did his best to

0:48:42.969 --> 0:48:46.450
<v Speaker 8>exalt Israel, put Israel first. He even put Israel above

0:48:46.489 --> 0:48:50.180
<v Speaker 8>the church. Read his notes in the New Testament. Many

0:48:50.260 --> 0:48:54.180
<v Speaker 8>times he denigrates the church, the body of Christ, and

0:48:54.260 --> 0:49:00.190
<v Speaker 8>exalts Israel. He never has anything bad to say. And

0:49:00.969 --> 0:49:07.170
<v Speaker 8>this Schofield Bible, this Schofield dispensationalism has influenced the church

0:49:07.230 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 8>of Jesus Christ around the world. to exalt Israel above

0:49:13.260 --> 0:49:15.620
<v Speaker 8>even the church, the body of Jesus Christ.

0:49:15.700 --> 0:49:18.850
<v Speaker 3>Well, let me just say something here that's important. Five,

0:49:18.890 --> 0:49:21.700
<v Speaker 3>six years ago I'd... wouldn't bash Israel. I'd say, leave

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:25.150
<v Speaker 3>Israel alone, nothing against Israel. I knew that Israel had

0:49:25.170 --> 0:49:26.810
<v Speaker 3>been involved in a lot of bad things, but you know.

0:49:26.850 --> 0:49:28.030
<v Speaker 6>All these countries are corrupt.

0:49:28.870 --> 0:49:31.630
<v Speaker 3>But if I didn't worship everything they did, like selling

0:49:32.010 --> 0:49:36.710
<v Speaker 3>nuclear weapons components to Iran, or selling our missile secrets

0:49:36.790 --> 0:49:39.190
<v Speaker 3>and F-16 fighter secrets to communist China.

0:49:39.710 --> 0:49:41.870
<v Speaker 6>I would get a call up going by.

0:49:41.810 --> 0:49:44.190
<v Speaker 3>Guests I'd had on. You listen to me, Alex. You're

0:49:44.210 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 3>going to go to hell if you criticize anything they do.

0:49:46.450 --> 0:49:48.050
<v Speaker 3>And I go, and I went, wait a minute. I

0:49:48.070 --> 0:49:49.690
<v Speaker 3>don't claim to be a Bible expert, but I sat

0:49:49.710 --> 0:49:51.890
<v Speaker 3>through a lot of Bible study when I was, you know,

0:49:51.910 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>in Sunday school. Every prophet came and criticized. And God

0:49:56.100 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>would judge Israel with foreign nations in captivity. And Jesus

0:49:59.460 --> 0:50:00.900
<v Speaker 3>criticized what Israel was doing.

0:50:00.940 --> 0:50:02.819
<v Speaker 6>And, I mean, isn't that the.

0:50:03.340 --> 0:50:06.020
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand what you're saying. They're like, you don't

0:50:06.100 --> 0:50:09.129
<v Speaker 3>say a word. You worship Israel. So really, we don't

0:50:09.170 --> 0:50:11.430
<v Speaker 3>worship Jesus Christ. We worship Israel now.

0:50:11.650 --> 0:50:14.570
<v Speaker 8>Yes, the God's chosen people myth. And as I say,

0:50:14.930 --> 0:50:17.460
<v Speaker 8>it came out of Scofield dispensationalism.

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:20.259
<v Speaker 5>This is very out of sync with how Alex is

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.500
<v Speaker 5>trying to present his views on Israel in the present day.

0:50:23.290 --> 0:50:26.090
<v Speaker 5>He tries to act like his concerns about Israel are new,

0:50:26.210 --> 0:50:28.049
<v Speaker 5>but it seems like he had the same awareness and

0:50:28.090 --> 0:50:31.930
<v Speaker 5>complaints in 2006 and is even engaging in the same rhetoric. Like,

0:50:32.070 --> 0:50:34.590
<v Speaker 5>five years ago, I didn't complain about them, but now

0:50:34.670 --> 0:50:35.390
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to.

0:50:35.450 --> 0:50:37.660
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, almost like some sort of holy war.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.980
<v Speaker 5>Almost like some sort of broken record, too. It's crazy. Strange.

0:50:42.420 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 5>So without getting too into the weeds, Schofield dispensationalism is

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.660
<v Speaker 5>a reference to the debate among Christian thinkers about how

0:50:48.700 --> 0:50:53.790
<v Speaker 5>many dispensations there have been in the history of God's people. Basically,

0:50:53.810 --> 0:50:56.470
<v Speaker 5>it's a discussion of whether there's been three or seven

0:50:56.530 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 5>different status quos in terms of God's relationship with man.

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 5>The dispensationalist school of thought grew massively in the early

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:08.500
<v Speaker 5>to mid-1900s and has an outsized influence on evangelical churches,

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.489
<v Speaker 5>the burgeoning megachurch movement, and a lot of the end

0:51:11.530 --> 0:51:16.330
<v Speaker 5>times Christian folks like Jim Baker. Sure. Schofield had commentaries on, like,

0:51:16.390 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Revelation and a lot of the people who have... ideas

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 5>about big fun prophecy yeah they come from a reading

0:51:24.739 --> 0:51:27.939
<v Speaker 5>that has some reliance on scofield gotcha in the last

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.940
<v Speaker 5>few decades the the school of thought has lost a

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 5>bit of steam to the more covenant-based uh thinkers sure

0:51:35.219 --> 0:51:38.300
<v Speaker 5>and if you want to make it hyper simple dispensationalists

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.299
<v Speaker 5>believe in a pre-trib rapture whereas folks like alex and

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 5>dale believe in a post-trib rapture Dispensationalists believe that the

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.180
<v Speaker 5>Jews play an important role in the events that lead

0:51:48.219 --> 0:51:50.850
<v Speaker 5>to the end times, whereas folks like Alex and Dale

0:51:50.890 --> 0:51:54.509
<v Speaker 5>believe that this is making Christianity secondary to Judaism, where

0:51:54.530 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 5>the fulfillment of their prophecy can't happen without the Jews

0:51:57.460 --> 0:51:59.819
<v Speaker 5>making it happen, and that bothers them.

0:52:00.300 --> 0:52:00.620
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:52:00.900 --> 0:52:05.690
<v Speaker 5>So that's a big part of what's behind this schism

0:52:05.989 --> 0:52:08.650
<v Speaker 5>that Dale is talking about and what it means in

0:52:08.690 --> 0:52:10.570
<v Speaker 5>terms of their actual belief.

0:52:10.790 --> 0:52:11.130
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:52:11.570 --> 0:52:14.339
<v Speaker 7>You know, it brings something to mind, which is that

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 7>I've never been in a situation where somebody's had, like,

0:52:17.260 --> 0:52:19.900
<v Speaker 7>a proper name and then the Bible and not had

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 7>a really bad time afterwards.

0:52:21.940 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Especially if it's not new standard or King James, at

0:52:26.020 --> 0:52:26.620
<v Speaker 5>least are.

0:52:26.530 --> 0:52:28.469
<v Speaker 7>Like Derek's Bible. I'm like, I am not going to

0:52:28.510 --> 0:52:29.850
<v Speaker 7>have a good time. I don't want to talk to

0:52:29.890 --> 0:52:32.069
<v Speaker 7>Derek about his Bible. I don't want to know what's

0:52:32.110 --> 0:52:33.510
<v Speaker 7>going on in Derek's Bible.

0:52:33.950 --> 0:52:36.450
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Schofield's despot. I'm getting out of here. I'm getting

0:52:36.489 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 4>out of here. You guys have fun.

0:52:37.780 --> 0:52:38.339
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah.

0:52:38.540 --> 0:52:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't need any names in front of Bible.

0:52:40.610 --> 0:52:45.509
<v Speaker 5>I think that like scholarly conversation and shit about like, hey,

0:52:45.570 --> 0:52:48.380
<v Speaker 5>this is a tradition and, you know, this is blah, blah, blah.

0:52:48.660 --> 0:52:48.899
<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:52.220
<v Speaker 5>If you are angry about Schofield's dispensationalism.

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 6>No good.

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:57.220
<v Speaker 4>If you've got elbow patches in a pipe, have fun.

0:52:57.340 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.060
<v Speaker 7>Go delight in yourself. If you've got a gun, go home.

0:53:01.380 --> 0:53:02.380
<v Speaker 6>Do not. Yeah.

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 5>So I think that Alex, like, it's just, I don't know.

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:08.860
<v Speaker 5>It's weird.

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:09.780
<v Speaker 4>It is weird.

0:53:11.060 --> 0:53:14.460
<v Speaker 5>So in a recent episode, I believe it was our

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 5>last episode, Alex discussed the possibility that Jared Kushner is

0:53:19.300 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 5>the Antichrist.

0:53:19.940 --> 0:53:20.220
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.240
<v Speaker 5>And how a lot of people are trying to force

0:53:22.300 --> 0:53:24.820
<v Speaker 5>God's hand. Sure. And bring it about the end times.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 4>It would be interesting if that's how it worked.

0:53:26.580 --> 0:53:30.180
<v Speaker 5>Now, 20 years ago, Alex knew that this was impossible.

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 8>Schofield is dangerous. It's insidious. And it is weakened.

0:53:37.020 --> 0:53:39.339
<v Speaker 6>Well, didn't he come up with the whole rapture thing?

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.450
<v Speaker 8>Well, this is all related to Israel. He said if

0:53:43.510 --> 0:53:46.890
<v Speaker 8>we help the Jews get back to Palestine, then we

0:53:46.930 --> 0:53:49.450
<v Speaker 8>can hasten the coming of Christ and the rapture will

0:53:49.489 --> 0:53:51.170
<v Speaker 8>take place and remove us all.

0:53:51.290 --> 0:53:53.910
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right. Man can make God do things.

0:53:53.969 --> 0:53:59.030
<v Speaker 8>That's right. My friend Grace Halsall called it forcing God's hand.

0:53:59.950 --> 0:54:01.770
<v Speaker 8>She wrote a book, and that was the title of

0:54:01.810 --> 0:54:04.090
<v Speaker 8>the book. Many of your listeners have it, I'm sure.

0:54:04.530 --> 0:54:07.190
<v Speaker 8>Forcing God's hand. Making God.

0:54:08.090 --> 0:54:08.690
<v Speaker 6>Hurry.

0:54:08.450 --> 0:54:10.430
<v Speaker 8>Something up that we want to see hurried up.

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.419
<v Speaker 6>Well, that's what the devil did that got him thrown

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 6>out of heaven. Is it?

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:14.260
<v Speaker 8>True.

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 6>True.

0:54:15.140 --> 0:54:16.649
<v Speaker 4>Is that what the devil did?

0:54:16.670 --> 0:54:17.970
<v Speaker 5>Eh. Something like that.

0:54:17.989 --> 0:54:18.549
<v Speaker 4>Something like that.

0:54:18.590 --> 0:54:20.310
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, Alex seems to be coming from a place

0:54:20.330 --> 0:54:21.089
<v Speaker 5>where you can't do that.

0:54:21.370 --> 0:54:21.890
<v Speaker 4>Can't do that.

0:54:21.950 --> 0:54:23.550
<v Speaker 5>You can't force God to do something.

0:54:23.790 --> 0:54:27.129
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it would definitely change, I think, a lot

0:54:27.170 --> 0:54:30.310
<v Speaker 7>of people's fundamental relationship with God if they knew that, like,

0:54:30.610 --> 0:54:32.350
<v Speaker 7>as long as enough of us get together, that dude

0:54:32.370 --> 0:54:33.230
<v Speaker 7>can't do shit to us.

0:54:33.550 --> 0:54:33.830
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:54:34.190 --> 0:54:38.290
<v Speaker 4>Like, fucking, oh, you want to wait a couple of years? Surprise! Tomorrow!

0:54:38.830 --> 0:54:40.790
<v Speaker 5>But, like, if you look at the way that Alex

0:54:40.850 --> 0:54:44.350
<v Speaker 5>is engaged with it in the present, and a lot of, like,

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:46.100
<v Speaker 5>you know, the implications of things.

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:47.540
<v Speaker 4>He says, you don't even need to get a group

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 4>of people together.

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 5>One person could subvert God.

0:54:50.540 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 4>Feels very easy. Feels very simple at this point in time.

0:54:53.460 --> 0:54:56.259
<v Speaker 5>God has to always be playing defense against us.

0:54:56.489 --> 0:54:58.830
<v Speaker 7>It is a very strange point of view to have

0:54:58.969 --> 0:55:02.010
<v Speaker 7>on God of like, Hey, don't be stupid.

0:55:02.190 --> 0:55:05.410
<v Speaker 4>Of course we can get him to do shit. Oh, okay.

0:55:05.730 --> 0:55:07.290
<v Speaker 5>That's not cool.

0:55:07.370 --> 0:55:07.529
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

0:55:08.150 --> 0:55:11.530
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, some Jews are not Jews, apparently.

0:55:11.730 --> 0:55:13.910
<v Speaker 4>That's always a good start to a conversation.

0:55:14.050 --> 0:55:14.630
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:55:15.270 --> 0:55:17.990
<v Speaker 3>What makes me mad is I never even criticized Israel,

0:55:18.050 --> 0:55:21.130
<v Speaker 3>and then I criticized 9-11, and the ADL attacks me.

0:55:21.370 --> 0:55:21.630
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:55:21.850 --> 0:55:24.430
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they want a fight. They want to claim

0:55:24.469 --> 0:55:26.150
<v Speaker 3>they represent all Jews, and they don't.

0:55:26.230 --> 0:55:27.069
<v Speaker 8>They don't, no.

0:55:27.790 --> 0:55:29.569
<v Speaker 6>You know, all the Jewish people I.

0:55:29.550 --> 0:55:31.469
<v Speaker 3>Know who are my friends are great people, and then

0:55:31.489 --> 0:55:34.089
<v Speaker 3>you sit there and you see these— You know, these

0:55:34.190 --> 0:55:37.580
<v Speaker 3>folks from Hazaria, these European folks, they're not even really.

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 6>Jews to begin with.

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:39.780
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:55:39.860 --> 0:55:43.060
<v Speaker 3>And they're busy microwaving the Sephardi Jews and.

0:55:43.180 --> 0:55:46.500
<v Speaker 6>Killing all those Jewish kids. And I'm back because I

0:55:46.500 --> 0:55:47.779
<v Speaker 6>don't want them to kill Jewish children.

0:55:48.210 --> 0:55:51.230
<v Speaker 5>So this this is about the criticisms of Israel.

0:55:51.370 --> 0:55:53.270
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we've gone a little off track.

0:55:53.310 --> 0:55:53.730
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:53.890 --> 0:55:54.870
<v Speaker 4>I think this is no good.

0:55:55.010 --> 0:55:57.630
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm getting a sense of why this guy

0:55:57.870 --> 0:55:59.339
<v Speaker 5>would you wouldn't want him on a live mic.

0:55:59.660 --> 0:56:00.010
<v Speaker 8>I was.

0:56:00.030 --> 0:56:02.779
<v Speaker 4>And I mean Alex and Dale.

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to lie.

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:05.819
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was going to say, talking about Israel, I'm

0:56:05.900 --> 0:56:10.700
<v Speaker 7>already uncomfortable with. Focusing on Israel makes me very uncomfortable.

0:56:11.060 --> 0:56:13.540
<v Speaker 7>For this guy to be focusing on Israel makes me

0:56:13.580 --> 0:56:14.479
<v Speaker 7>want to leave the room.

0:56:14.660 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, his focus is not great.

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 4>No good. No good.

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 5>So we have one more clip of Dale's appearance.

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:56:21.900 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 5>And I think that, yeah, this is not about political shit.

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.900
<v Speaker 5>It's not about a government. It is about hating Jewish people.

0:56:31.739 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 3>And then meanwhile, you know, I studied the New World Order, Pastor.

0:56:34.180 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Did you know it's run by Nazi devil worshippers?

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 8>No, I didn't know that.

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.060
<v Speaker 6>I really, really studied it, and at.

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 3>The highest levels, even some of these so-called Zionist leaders

0:56:43.780 --> 0:56:46.350
<v Speaker 3>really aren't even what you'd call a Zionist. They're just

0:56:46.370 --> 0:56:47.270
<v Speaker 3>into the occult.

0:56:48.610 --> 0:56:52.390
<v Speaker 8>I'm aware of that. I'm aware of that. And this

0:56:52.550 --> 0:56:55.469
<v Speaker 8>is something that comes up in these newspapers forward in

0:56:55.969 --> 0:56:58.290
<v Speaker 8>Washington Jewish Week every once in a while, and I

0:56:58.370 --> 0:57:03.940
<v Speaker 8>expose that On the program, everything that the Bible is against,

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:13.030
<v Speaker 8>Jewish leaders are on the front lines. I'm talking about sodomy, pornography, abortion, abolitionism.

0:57:14.410 --> 0:57:20.770
<v Speaker 8>Everything that the Bible teaches against is praised in the

0:57:21.310 --> 0:57:26.970
<v Speaker 8>Jewish press, in the forward newspaper. It's in there every week.

0:57:27.610 --> 0:57:30.730
<v Speaker 8>And this is one of the things that made up

0:57:30.750 --> 0:57:36.150
<v Speaker 8>the content of my program, these outrageous, occultic, satanic things

0:57:36.210 --> 0:57:38.910
<v Speaker 8>that the Jews are into, and they're proud of it.

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it might be why your program wasn't. The station

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 5>didn't want to air it anymore.

0:57:44.220 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 7>Dale, I appreciate what you want, and I know you

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 7>like having that live time, so here's what we'll do.

0:57:50.850 --> 0:57:53.689
<v Speaker 7>We can keep your show, and you can pre-tape it,

0:57:53.710 --> 0:57:56.210
<v Speaker 7>or if you want that live mic, you have to

0:57:56.270 --> 0:57:57.550
<v Speaker 7>change the sound slightly.

0:57:57.810 --> 0:58:02.030
<v Speaker 4>It's called... focus on water slides. It's 15 minutes.

0:58:02.190 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Fucking demonic water slides.

0:58:03.620 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 7>About demonic water slides. That's fine if it's demonic water slides.

0:58:06.900 --> 0:58:09.340
<v Speaker 5>The water slides are trying to push pornography.

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:12.590
<v Speaker 4>No, the water slides can't be a metaphor for juice. Ah, shit.

0:58:12.610 --> 0:58:13.250
<v Speaker 4>That's one rule.

0:58:13.290 --> 0:58:16.580
<v Speaker 5>We can't be doing that. Yeah, I think that the

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:20.300
<v Speaker 5>presentation that the American Free Press wanted and Alex is

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.020
<v Speaker 5>reporting on is like, this guy just has some very

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:27.950
<v Speaker 5>reasonable criticisms of Israel and the influence on American politicians

0:58:28.010 --> 0:58:33.550
<v Speaker 5>and the global foreign policy decisions that allyship makes. And

0:58:33.830 --> 0:58:38.450
<v Speaker 5>instead he's talking and it's fundamentally clear that he thinks–

0:58:38.630 --> 0:58:41.470
<v Speaker 5>That Jews are the enemy of Christianity.

0:58:41.550 --> 0:58:45.050
<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean, when you say like, hey, this group

0:58:45.430 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 7>of people, they're people, but everything they believe in is

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 7>against what my God believes in. And I know they

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:57.070
<v Speaker 7>cannot change, especially not through talking. That means you're probably

0:58:57.110 --> 0:58:57.870
<v Speaker 7>not going to have a good time.

0:58:58.230 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it makes it clear why his show

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 5>isn't on, and I think it invalidates the entire point

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.370
<v Speaker 5>that Alex's interview was supposed to achieve.

0:59:07.430 --> 0:59:08.070
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:59:08.610 --> 0:59:11.700
<v Speaker 5>So he goes and... Alex gets back to some of

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 5>the big news. Not Boston legal.

0:59:13.860 --> 0:59:14.220
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:15.100
<v Speaker 6>Waxman.

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 5>And the Bush signing into law something that didn't pass.

0:59:19.780 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 4>See from Boston?

0:59:20.260 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Let me read this article, though, first. It's from Raw Story.

0:59:23.490 --> 0:59:26.850
<v Speaker 3>Congressman writes, White House, did President knowingly sign law that

0:59:26.870 --> 0:59:27.450
<v Speaker 3>didn't pass?

0:59:27.530 --> 0:59:30.730
<v Speaker 6>And it's posted on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.

0:59:31.170 --> 0:59:35.850
<v Speaker 3>Representative Henry Waxman has alleged a letter to White House

0:59:35.950 --> 0:59:38.350
<v Speaker 3>Chief of Staff Andrew Carr that President Bush.

0:59:38.130 --> 0:59:40.070
<v Speaker 6>Signed a version of the budget.

0:59:41.370 --> 0:59:44.790
<v Speaker 3>reconciliation act that in effect did not pass the house

0:59:44.830 --> 0:59:47.730
<v Speaker 3>of representatives further waxman says there is a reason to

0:59:47.770 --> 0:59:50.580
<v Speaker 3>believe that the speaker of the house called president bush

0:59:50.620 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 3>before he signed the law and alerted him that the

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.460
<v Speaker 3>version he had that he was about to sign differed

0:59:57.500 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 3>from the one that actually passed the house if true

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:03.490
<v Speaker 3>this would put the president in willful violation of the

1:00:03.630 --> 1:00:05.709
<v Speaker 3>u.s constitution.

1:00:04.990 --> 1:00:06.890
<v Speaker 4>Got him and it dealt with a.

1:00:06.890 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Billion dollars of extra funding now understand There are 1,000-page

1:00:11.700 --> 1:00:12.690
<v Speaker 3>bills passed every week.

1:00:12.730 --> 1:00:15.410
<v Speaker 6>There are hundreds-plus-page bills passed every day.

1:00:15.870 --> 1:00:18.470
<v Speaker 5>So Alex doesn't understand this story, and you can tell

1:00:18.530 --> 1:00:20.710
<v Speaker 5>because of the way that he's talking about the $ 2

1:00:20.450 --> 1:00:24.450
<v Speaker 5>billion discrepancy between the two versions of the bill. After

1:00:24.510 --> 1:00:26.870
<v Speaker 5>this point, Alex descends into a riff trying to get

1:00:26.910 --> 1:00:30.110
<v Speaker 5>the audience to imagine a $ 2 billion bank robbery and

1:00:30.150 --> 1:00:32.590
<v Speaker 5>how seriously people would take that, which is meant to

1:00:32.630 --> 1:00:35.500
<v Speaker 5>imply that the version that Bush signed into law stole

1:00:35.580 --> 1:00:38.380
<v Speaker 5>an extra $ 2 billion for these politicians.

1:00:38.420 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Naturally.

1:00:39.370 --> 1:00:42.470
<v Speaker 5>In reality, the version that he signed provided $ 2 billion

1:00:42.590 --> 1:00:46.300
<v Speaker 5>less in funding for Medicare recipients having access to things

1:00:46.340 --> 1:00:49.620
<v Speaker 5>like CPAP machines. You could make an argument that this

1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:52.780
<v Speaker 5>is a $ 2 billion theft from the American people, but

1:00:53.100 --> 1:00:55.610
<v Speaker 5>Alex doesn't think that Medicare should exist to begin with,

1:00:56.010 --> 1:00:59.130
<v Speaker 5>so he is absolutely in favor of them having less funding.

1:00:59.990 --> 1:01:03.370
<v Speaker 5>His policy preferences are in line with giving Medicare $ 2

1:01:03.150 --> 1:01:06.690
<v Speaker 5>billion less in funding, so what happened is actually exactly

1:01:06.750 --> 1:01:09.050
<v Speaker 5>what he wants. But in order to make it into

1:01:09.090 --> 1:01:11.550
<v Speaker 5>a narrative that plays on Infowars, he has to spin

1:01:11.590 --> 1:01:14.510
<v Speaker 5>it like it's Bush and his cronies adding $ 2 billion

1:01:14.530 --> 1:01:18.910
<v Speaker 5>to the pot for themselves. If this whole different versions

1:01:18.970 --> 1:01:21.870
<v Speaker 5>of the bill thing hadn't happened, he'd probably just ignore

1:01:21.910 --> 1:01:25.380
<v Speaker 5>this story because it's boring, and he's just cold-reading a

1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:29.450
<v Speaker 5>raw story blog post. So, like, it wouldn't even... matter

1:01:29.590 --> 1:01:33.330
<v Speaker 5>to him if there wasn't some little intrigue yeah it.

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<v Speaker 7>Is kind of interesting that you have to whether or

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<v Speaker 7>not he knows it or you know it it is

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<v Speaker 7>at this time like he's a creature of of instinct

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<v Speaker 7>more than anything else because he's he's also kind of

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<v Speaker 7>creating his responses to these things in real time but

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<v Speaker 7>like you have to take stances that are absurdly against

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<v Speaker 7>your own position and But without any stakes in order

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<v Speaker 7>to convince people that you can have positions that are

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<v Speaker 7>against your position.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's so easy for him.

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<v Speaker 7>To be like, oh, look at this $ 2 billion stuff

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<v Speaker 7>and get real anger because he really wants it to

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<v Speaker 7>be zero. I don't want them to get any money.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm furious that he would sign this bill and fake

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<v Speaker 7>that anger into something that people could agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And by presenting it as some kind of grand scam

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<v Speaker 5>that Bush and his cronies have done to Jane Rich themselves,

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<v Speaker 5>it sidesteps the entire question of, Should Medicare recipients be

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<v Speaker 5>getting this money?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they should.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. But you don't believe that we're not on the

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<v Speaker 5>same page.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But by creating a grander fiction, we can agree on

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<v Speaker 5>that grander fiction.

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<v Speaker 7>We could not be further from the same team. And

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<v Speaker 7>yet somehow your bullshit has made me feel close to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's fake. I wonder if he's does he. And

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I don't know if this is actually how it works.

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<v Speaker 7>But if everybody was like, okay, this is the bill

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<v Speaker 7>we agreed to sign, but then he accidentally got the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong typing, do we live on.

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<v Speaker 4>Fairy tale laws? Is it like, ah, shit, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>way to change it.

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<v Speaker 5>This was the plot of Bullworth 2. It never got made,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a script that was going around. No, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. I mean, I'm certain there are mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 4>That deal with that.

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<v Speaker 7>There have to be just like a regular whiteout that

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<v Speaker 7>you can do.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that Alex wouldn't care now because Trump

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<v Speaker 5>could just do whatever he wants.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you can just rip that shit apart.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So we know in the present day that Alex

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<v Speaker 5>is painfully addicted to social media.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>But in 2006, he is just thinking about getting into MySpace.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that storyline continues a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, everybody freaks out about China censoring stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>MySpace has erased a whole bunch of blogs that we

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<v Speaker 3>and others had put up there with names like Will

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<v Speaker 3>Rupert Murdoch shut down this site.

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<v Speaker 6>Haven't shut down our main one we put up yet,

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<v Speaker 6>and we haven't really plugged it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's not a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked earlier, what's the name of our MySpace account?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw them in their building yesterday and today, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're just testing it. Our MySpace account is about exposing MySpace.

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<v Speaker 3>They may be sophisticated enough to leave ours out knowing

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<v Speaker 3>we're big and we'll send them traffic while cutting out

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<v Speaker 3>all the little ones. We'll see what happens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not dumb. They know it's a trap because then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll show what a bunch of censors they are. There's

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<v Speaker 3>already legions and examples of that.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the perfect scam for Alex. He can get

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<v Speaker 5>on MySpace and take advantage of all the benefits that

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<v Speaker 5>come from being on social media, all while pretending that

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<v Speaker 5>his presence there is some kind of rebellious act. And

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<v Speaker 5>the best part is, no matter what happens, the end

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<v Speaker 5>result is proof of how dangerous and rebellious he is.

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<v Speaker 5>If Myspace throws him off the site, it's proof that

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<v Speaker 5>they're censors and Alex is right. If they don't throw

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<v Speaker 5>him off, that's proof that they know he's too big

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<v Speaker 5>to censor and they don't want to fall into his trap.

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<v Speaker 5>Alex's career is full of rigged shit like this, where

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty much impossible for him to ever be wrong

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<v Speaker 5>because his career is a carnival game. When he predicts

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<v Speaker 5>a false flag attack is going to happen in the

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<v Speaker 5>next month, If there's a big shooting, he gets to

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<v Speaker 5>say that attack is the one he predicted, and if

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<v Speaker 5>nothing happens, then he gets to claim that he scared

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<v Speaker 5>the New World Order with his predictions, so they changed

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<v Speaker 5>their plans. It's all a game, but in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 5>Alex gets to use Myspace in exactly the way he's

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be above using it. It's an evil Trojan

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<v Speaker 5>horse of censorship, but as long as he pretends that

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<v Speaker 5>he's using it for a higher purpose, he gets to

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<v Speaker 5>profit off of all the attention and free promotion that

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<v Speaker 5>the site provides. He gets to use it exactly like...

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<v Speaker 5>any other business would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But he gets to pretend that it's a high-minded trap

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<v Speaker 5>that he's set for the devil.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys. See, here's the thing. Here's the thing, right?

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<v Speaker 4>So I know, listen, you can't. You can't use this

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<v Speaker 4>hot tub. Evil, evil hot tub. Disgusting.

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<v Speaker 7>You should never use this hot tub. Now I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to sit in this hot tub to prove to them.

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<v Speaker 4>How evil it is.

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<v Speaker 7>And you'll know how evil it is because I'll look

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<v Speaker 7>so fucking comfortable in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to look so comfortable in this hot tub.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they kick me out, that's because they're evil.

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<v Speaker 7>But if they don't kick me out, that's because you

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<v Speaker 7>know they're evil and I'm having.

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<v Speaker 2>A grand time.

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<v Speaker 5>An analog of this would be like us taking ads

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<v Speaker 5>and rationalizing it with like a, Wouldn't it be so

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<v Speaker 5>funny if we took ads?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, these companies are so dumb to take an ad

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<v Speaker 5>from us.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at how fucking stupid they would be if we, well.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, we'll tell you to go to fucking.

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<v Speaker 4>Target or whatever, but we'll be like, Target sucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're making fun of the idea of having an ad,

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<v Speaker 5>but we're also enjoying all the benefits of having an ad.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, man, Target, bunch of assholes, they're giving you milk

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<v Speaker 7>for like $ 3.

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<v Speaker 4>29. Can you believe that, Dan?

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<v Speaker 5>It's 40% off this week.

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<v Speaker 4>What a bunch of assholes. What a bunch of assholes. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>Target owes us money for that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the game that Alex is trying to play with MySpace.

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<v Speaker 4>It's absurd.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So obviously, at the beginning of this episode, probably

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<v Speaker 5>one of the most exciting things happened imaginable. And that

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<v Speaker 5>is that Alex said he was going to review a movie.

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<v Speaker 5>And I kept waiting. I was like, all right, we

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<v Speaker 5>got this anti-Semitic dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a bunch of complaining about Boston Legal. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>He played that song from the pop punk band.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's stuck in my head a little bit. If that's

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<v Speaker 4>all we get from this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 4>I went and listened to a couple more songs of theirs.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not bad.

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<v Speaker 8>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. If that's your, if your flavor's pop punk, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>take a, maybe take a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>They're really what you would expect of a like highly,

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<v Speaker 5>like high level local band.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>In that era.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>They're good. And I don't know, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 5>listen to a ton more of them, but like, Very serviceable.

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<v Speaker 5>And three of them are siblings. Three of the four

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<v Speaker 5>band members are siblings.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Are the Hanson brothers around at this time?

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<v Speaker 5>Mmm, bop. Yep, they were. They were, weren't they? Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>because they were around when I was in high school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, we're old.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So anyway, Alex gets to his review of Scanner

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<v Speaker 5>Darkly pretty late in the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>That's too late.

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<v Speaker 5>And he is not committed.

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<v Speaker 3>I said that I would do a review of Scanner Darkly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know how I do justice to it.

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<v Speaker 6>It is Philip K. Dick's science fiction.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Phenomenons, really his autobiography about drug use and

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<v Speaker 3>drug abuse.

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<v Speaker 6>And what it did to him and people around him. And,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, why do we put people in prison?

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<v Speaker 3>For something that really is something that's just chemical that

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<v Speaker 3>they fell into that is something very addictive and just destructive.

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<v Speaker 6>It is a disease.

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<v Speaker 3>Humans have always had substance abuse problems. And by making

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<v Speaker 3>it illegal, we actually put money into it and then

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<v Speaker 3>actually empower the industry and then make it fashionable and

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<v Speaker 3>connected to money and then make more.

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<v Speaker 6>People actually get on it.

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<v Speaker 3>All the research and evidence and historical evidence uh... linds

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<v Speaker 3>shows us just the backdrop. A larger part of the

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<v Speaker 3>backdrop is face scanning cameras, total surveillance, 20% of the

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<v Speaker 3>public on this drug. And of course, you learn that

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<v Speaker 3>a private corporation working with the government, much like much

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<v Speaker 3>like Halliburton and others, is actually creating the crisis. Problem, reaction, solution.

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<v Speaker 5>Spoilers, Alex.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, did they make a scanner directly?

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<v Speaker 5>Who? The New World Order? The problem, reaction, solution guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The Hegelian dialectic people? No, Philip K. Dick was exposing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>He was exposing that there's like a Halliburton-type company that's

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<v Speaker 5>making the drug, bop.

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<v Speaker 6>Boop, bop.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what a scanner darkly is about? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there is a drug.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, sure, there is a drug. Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that if I had to peel out something

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<v Speaker 5>that Alex is saying, it's legalized drugs?

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that would.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean, if your question is why put people

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<v Speaker 7>in jail for doing something that's awesome and that everybody likes,

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<v Speaker 7>the answer should be you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it seems like the most... like real world application

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<v Speaker 5>of this would be legalized drugs.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And he doesn't believe that.

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<v Speaker 7>Or explain why it's totally cool to imprison people just

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<v Speaker 7>for the thing that we all do.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've had for a long, long time.

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<v Speaker 5>So his, his review of the actual movie is, is not,

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<v Speaker 5>there's not much, but there is a, he does talk

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<v Speaker 5>about himself a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and I know it's got one on a rider.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got, did you see the movie? Woody Harrelson, it's

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<v Speaker 6>got Keanu Reeves, it's got just a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Other people, and their performances are just amazing. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>rotoscoped it. This is unlike any rotoscoping you've ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>where they animate each frame. So it's real, but it's not,

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<v Speaker 3>and it makes their performances even more powerful. And the

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<v Speaker 3>thing about this film, and I was there at this

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<v Speaker 3>little sneak peek last night that I was invited to,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Invited by the director and others. It was great to

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<v Speaker 3>be there and to see something new.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's what avant-garde means, is something new.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, we have defined avant-garde. Yeah. So this is another, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I only really played that clip because he promised us

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<v Speaker 5>a movie review and I'm obsessed with his movie reviews.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have to hear something. But the only thing

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<v Speaker 5>that's important in that clip is Alex saying that he

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<v Speaker 5>was invited by the director and others. That means not

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<v Speaker 5>the director.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Richard Linklater, if he had invited Alex to this premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>I was invited by the director.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>You only say I was invited by the director and

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<v Speaker 5>others when the others are maybe more important.

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<v Speaker 4>The publicity people.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Or not even that. Somebody he knows who had a ticket.

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<v Speaker 5>I was on the reply all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And I accidentally got an email that invited me to

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<v Speaker 5>this or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get to walk down the red carpet? Then

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<v Speaker 4>you were probably invited like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just know from the way he uses words

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<v Speaker 5>and language that if you say I was invited by

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<v Speaker 5>the director and others, that means not director.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how Alex talks.

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<v Speaker 4>What a fun little tick to have. It's a lie.

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<v Speaker 5>Truth. Whenever there is a lie that is kind of

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<v Speaker 5>transparently a lie, you need to build it up more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So many people invited me.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't stop getting invited.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, Alex was a consultant on this film. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>he was.

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<v Speaker 4>He consulted about how Philip K.

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<v Speaker 6>Dick?

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<v Speaker 5>No. No? No, not a Dick expert.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 5>But here is what he consulted on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, I'm so proud to be associated and to

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<v Speaker 3>be involved with this film.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm extremely proud of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I consulted on the film for some of

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<v Speaker 3>the high-tech police state gadgetry.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 3>And I consulted in a moderate way, not in a

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<v Speaker 3>huge way. I'm very impressed by the research that was

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<v Speaker 3>done because Dick wrote this.

1:13:06.670 --> 1:13:08.269
<v Speaker 6>Philip K. Dick wrote this back in the 70s.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm really impressed by his foresight of what was

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<v Speaker 3>coming and what would develop.

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<v Speaker 5>So Alex, he consulted on the gadgetry of the New

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<v Speaker 5>World Order, future gadgetry.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's like Q.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, except that Q made things.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a quartermaster.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I mean, I would assume that Linklater didn't

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<v Speaker 7>go to the Infowars studio and Alex had an array

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<v Speaker 7>of like, here's your futuristic gadget for this.

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<v Speaker 5>What are you looking for? The things in the movie

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<v Speaker 5>aren't real.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there is that problem.

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<v Speaker 5>They're props.

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<v Speaker 7>So then is it Alex's imagination of what things are

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<v Speaker 7>supposed to look like?

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what Alex wants you to think.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a futurist.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And basically he described the future and what things would

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<v Speaker 5>look like. Right. And all this stuff. And then Linklater

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<v Speaker 5>ran with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>He's responsible for the vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And the like kind of aesthetic things that are in

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<v Speaker 5>the movie. Sure. And that's dog shit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't his idea. A grappling hook.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I think that that clip, I mean, it's short,

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<v Speaker 5>but it includes grandiosity on an insane level. And then

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<v Speaker 5>also modesty, false modesty of like, I consulted not in

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<v Speaker 5>a major way.

1:14:24.050 --> 1:14:26.650
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, not in a big deal. I was, listen,

1:14:26.939 --> 1:14:29.080
<v Speaker 4>he's a guy who said, should we have guns? And

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, it's the future. Give them lasers.

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<v Speaker 5>No big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>No big deal. But the film wouldn't work without me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I'm trying to say over here.

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<v Speaker 5>I would bet anything. And I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 5>Linklater who asked him. But I bet someone on set

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<v Speaker 5>asked him like just sort of a passing conversational question.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's like, well, you know, I think that the

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<v Speaker 5>globalists in the future would have brain wiping devices. And

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<v Speaker 5>then he's like, I'm a fucking consultant.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what happened here.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Alex, what do you think about these bracelets? They're weird, right?

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<v Speaker 4>They look a little futuristic.

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<v Speaker 6>They're so futuristic.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw them in a dream and then they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to take all their legs off. I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 4>people I'm a consultant. Yeah. Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have one last clip and it's Alex talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Now keep in mind, he's in one scene. He's in

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<v Speaker 5>a cameo. It's a brief thing that he is in

1:15:14.630 --> 1:15:15.030
<v Speaker 5>this movie.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He thinks he's going to be featured prominently.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 6>And I appear prominently in the film.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to appear even more prominently in the DVD,

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<v Speaker 3>which DVD is now bigger than theatrical releases.

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<v Speaker 6>So that'll be exciting too. But a couple of scenes,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have me in them that you won't see

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<v Speaker 6>in the film. You will see scenes I'm in, in

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<v Speaker 6>the film, but you'll see even more on the DVD

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<v Speaker 6>and that'll be hitting theaters in July. So we're excited

1:15:40.510 --> 1:15:41.630
<v Speaker 6>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had all the stuff I wanted to say before

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<v Speaker 3>the show, but I've kind of run my course already.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a little bit tired today.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you don't have much to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what's crazy about that?

1:15:51.260 --> 1:15:53.639
<v Speaker 7>That is exactly the type of shit you hear from

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<v Speaker 7>an actor starting out.

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<v Speaker 5>A little delusional.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I listen, I know I, I called my mom.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, I'm going to be in this film. And

1:16:02.270 --> 1:16:03.710
<v Speaker 7>I was only in there for three seconds. So I

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<v Speaker 7>had to tell her when you get the DVD, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>in the deleted scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in these scenes.

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<v Speaker 5>I have no idea how they even could cut them.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's somehow, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, my best work is to come.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Like absolutely. And much like with that early actor too, like,

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<v Speaker 5>There is no fucking shame in what Alex did. It's

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<v Speaker 5>cool to be in a Richard Linklater movie. It's cool

1:16:30.220 --> 1:16:32.860
<v Speaker 5>to be in a Scanner Darkly. And it's even cool

1:16:32.939 --> 1:16:35.920
<v Speaker 5>to be like, hey, I'm Alex Jones, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>stunt cast because I was going to be a guy

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<v Speaker 5>yelling into a bullhorn.

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<v Speaker 4>It's super cool.

1:16:40.060 --> 1:16:43.200
<v Speaker 5>There is nothing to be embarrassed about just being in

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<v Speaker 5>one scene. Totally. Like, the idea that you need to

1:16:46.210 --> 1:16:50.309
<v Speaker 5>be featured prominently, or there's scenes in the DVD that, like...

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<v Speaker 5>You don't need that, man. Just take the win. It's

1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:55.299
<v Speaker 5>a fucking win. It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what he's doing? He's being a poser.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes!

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<v Speaker 4>Yes! Exactly!

1:17:01.900 --> 1:17:04.150
<v Speaker 5>Hit my music!

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<v Speaker 4>There's no other way to describe it. I wish I

1:17:10.570 --> 1:17:12.610
<v Speaker 4>could have done that more smoothly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, he's totally... It's poser shit.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's... You did something really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not cool enough for what you think you

1:17:22.189 --> 1:17:24.860
<v Speaker 5>deserve to know. Yeah, exactly. So you have to make

1:17:24.920 --> 1:17:28.340
<v Speaker 5>it exactly in line with your own visions of yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a fucking bummer.

1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I feel deprived because I actually want to hear

1:17:33.660 --> 1:17:34.560
<v Speaker 5>his review of scanner.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking the same thing. I was so mad

1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:39.160
<v Speaker 4>whenever we got here, and you're like, I've been.

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<v Speaker 7>Waiting for the review, because it's like, the moment he

1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:46.780
<v Speaker 7>opens with, I'm going to review the movie, me, the audience,

1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:49.429
<v Speaker 7>everybody around is like, well, I wonder what he's going

1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:50.519
<v Speaker 7>to say about this dumb movie.

1:17:50.660 --> 1:17:52.429
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, fireworks are going off.

1:17:52.510 --> 1:17:53.070
<v Speaker 6>People are like.

1:17:53.170 --> 1:17:53.710
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, at least we got something to look forward to.

1:17:55.830 --> 1:17:59.090
<v Speaker 5>People are calling off work to get excited about hearing

1:17:59.189 --> 1:18:01.590
<v Speaker 5>Alex's movie review. Oh, my God. So I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 5>hoping that down the road, in future episodes, he actually...

1:18:05.630 --> 1:18:07.340
<v Speaker 5>gets into the meat of this but you know i

1:18:07.380 --> 1:18:08.280
<v Speaker 5>don't know if he will.

1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:11.900
<v Speaker 7>It it is it is that that feeling right there

1:18:12.340 --> 1:18:14.820
<v Speaker 7>that's that thing that he's doing the posing about being

1:18:14.860 --> 1:18:19.590
<v Speaker 7>an actor thing is so depressing it's so depressing because

1:18:19.670 --> 1:18:24.060
<v Speaker 7>it is emblematic of his inability to just enjoy something

1:18:24.350 --> 1:18:29.000
<v Speaker 7>so cool right like this guy's experienced cool shit beyond

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<v Speaker 7>what 99 of all of us are ever going to

1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:35.059
<v Speaker 7>experience and he couldn't enjoy it the same way that

1:18:35.100 --> 1:18:37.180
<v Speaker 7>you could enjoy like a really good apple and just

1:18:37.200 --> 1:18:40.120
<v Speaker 7>be like fuck what a great apple he couldn't enjoy

1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:43.330
<v Speaker 7>being in a link later film because it wasn't cool

1:18:43.410 --> 1:18:46.550
<v Speaker 7>enough in his mind for how cool he really.

1:18:46.330 --> 1:18:49.630
<v Speaker 5>Is yeah that sucks it does and i think it

1:18:49.650 --> 1:18:52.000
<v Speaker 5>goes to so much of his work. Like, you know,

1:18:52.060 --> 1:18:56.300
<v Speaker 5>he's involved in some episodes of like Jesse Ventura's conspiracy

1:18:56.320 --> 1:19:00.780
<v Speaker 5>theory show or Joe Rogan's, uh, Joe Rogan questions everything show,

1:19:01.300 --> 1:19:03.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, like, and he has to turn them into like,

1:19:03.540 --> 1:19:07.700
<v Speaker 5>I basically, I did these shows. I ran these shows. Like, no,

1:19:07.740 --> 1:19:10.820
<v Speaker 5>you did something kind of cool. You are your own

1:19:11.060 --> 1:19:14.780
<v Speaker 5>fucking weirdo. And because of that, people have stunt cast

1:19:14.820 --> 1:19:16.570
<v Speaker 5>you in various things.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking enjoy that. That's the pinnacle of success for you. Absolutely. No,

1:19:22.250 --> 1:19:25.100
<v Speaker 4>we've gotten to do so many cool things.

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<v Speaker 7>And one of the biggest focuses for me is just

1:19:28.380 --> 1:19:31.740
<v Speaker 7>being like, hey, enjoy the shit out of this just

1:19:31.939 --> 1:19:35.020
<v Speaker 7>really enjoy it for what it is like to be

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<v Speaker 7>in that perfect moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah for five seconds like.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to be on cnn and it it's not

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<v Speaker 5>because like we run something or it was an accident.

1:19:45.030 --> 1:19:48.450
<v Speaker 7>It was completely nobody neither of us were like oh

1:19:48.470 --> 1:19:51.190
<v Speaker 7>we've got some dangerous ideas and cnn had to come

1:19:51.229 --> 1:19:55.250
<v Speaker 7>call it no somebody emailed probably by accident Yes.

1:19:55.290 --> 1:19:56.470
<v Speaker 5>Or some oversight or something.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's because of the position we've.

1:19:58.290 --> 1:20:00.099
<v Speaker 5>Put ourselves in through doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was really cool. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's not pretend.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 7>We're not TV appearance people. We're not talking heads.

1:20:09.300 --> 1:20:10.860
<v Speaker 5>Although, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>So we come to the end of this, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's a fascinating glimpse of... posing of a very

1:20:22.830 --> 1:20:25.390
<v Speaker 5>depressing view of Alex's sense of self.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And a lot of really weird stuff that is exactly

1:20:29.650 --> 1:20:30.520
<v Speaker 5>the same as the present.

1:20:30.530 --> 1:20:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's fun.

1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:20:33.800 --> 1:20:35.920
<v Speaker 5>But we'll be back with another episode. Maybe we'll be

1:20:35.939 --> 1:20:38.580
<v Speaker 5>in the past. Hopefully it'll be more about water slides.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my goal. Water slides and actual movie reviews.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds like a great show.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's fucking do it. But whatever it is, it'll come later.

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<v Speaker 5>For now, we have a website. We do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's knowledgefight.com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm DZX Clark. I am the Mysterious Professor.

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<v Speaker 8>Woo! Yeah! Woo!

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah!

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<v Speaker 6>Woo!

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<v Speaker 4>And now, here comes the sex robots.

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