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Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome in here as we get you all set

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Speaker 3: for March Madness. And we'd like to say, right off

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Speaker 3: college fans stay. I know you guys are geeked. We're

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Speaker 3: getting set for the brackets. We got all the conference

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Speaker 3: championship games going on here, a lot of action. I

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Speaker 3: would especially expect you, Jared to be a pig in

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Speaker 3: hoops slop.

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Speaker 1: Into awesome. How great is that?

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Speaker 3: It's very good, very nice. At all the bells and whistles,

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Speaker 3: all the lovely things right there. And man, we started

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Speaker 3: off with NC State. How about this? This is a

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Speaker 3: blast from like nineteen eighty three with the Cardiac Cats

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Speaker 3: and they survived last night. They get a buzzer beater, well,

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Speaker 3: they get a shot at the buzzer in regulation, a

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Speaker 3: prayer from three to send the game into overtime. And

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Speaker 3: then they win it. So NC State has won four

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Speaker 3: games in four days and they've got a chance to

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Speaker 3: win the ACC Crown against North Carolina. How crazy is that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but the nostalgia thing

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Speaker 3: where you get Jim Valvano and they go on a

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Speaker 3: run in eighty three, that's the only way they were

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Speaker 3: gonna get into the Big Dance was win the ACC Tournament.

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Speaker 3: They did, they ended up winning the national championship. So

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest stories in the history of college basketball.

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Speaker 3: And hear the current NC State wolf Pack they might

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Speaker 3: go on a similar run to win the ACC Crown

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Speaker 3: and just that when you just dip into the pass,

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Speaker 3: it's really cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. It has happened before. And

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Speaker 4: being from San Diego and watching the Aztecs and knowing

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Speaker 4: their history, this has happened to them, you know, against

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Speaker 4: a tournament rival, you know, the Yukon Huskies back in

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Speaker 4: the twenty I think it was the twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Tournament.

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Speaker 4: They won five games and five nights to win the

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Speaker 4: Big East and then they went on to win the

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Speaker 4: whole thing. So sometimes special teams they can get on

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Speaker 4: a run, and that was I mean Kemba Walker.

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Speaker 2: That was a record offensive year for.

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Speaker 4: Them that year, and they beat some good teams Arizona

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Speaker 4: and Kentucky, Butler was in that was in that bracket.

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Speaker 4: They beat the San Diego State Aztecs with Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: So look, don't sleep on the wolf Pack, don't sleep

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Speaker 4: on any team who can find a way to battle,

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Speaker 4: to battle some serious adversity to get themselves entrance into

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Speaker 4: the tournament, because it can happen, can happen to anybody,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen it a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the that's the hungry Huskies team talking about there.

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Speaker 5: Actually when I was doing my digging, because I started

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Speaker 5: doing digging for the tournament and kind of grading each

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Speaker 5: team and seeing grading the champ the prior champions and

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Speaker 5: finding like a formula of okay, if you're below this,

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Speaker 5: and ken Pom, no one's ever won the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 5: coming in with a with a rating below this. That

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Speaker 5: Yukon team's actually like the outlier, Like they're like the

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Speaker 5: worst rated team that's won the title in since ken

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Speaker 5: Pom you know started in like two thousand and one.

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Speaker 5: So that that is a very unique team. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it's going to be duplicated. This NC State team, Listen, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Keat's done a really good job. They were in the

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Speaker 1: tournament last year, lost to Creighton in the five.

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Speaker 5: To twelve game. They have some talent. They got the

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Speaker 5: kid from the Horn, kid from Arizona State, who can

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Speaker 5: really fill it up. But this is it is really

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Speaker 5: hard to win five. I mean, they played Louisville on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: They are still playing. It is Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It is the fifth game in five nights.

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Speaker 5: Now, granted, I know they're teenagers, and I'm sure their

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Speaker 5: I want to.

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Speaker 1: Crawl into a hole for six hours.

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Speaker 5: But these guys, I don't know. North Carolina's gonna run

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Speaker 5: Baycot Tonight's gonna just you know, they're so tough inside.

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Speaker 5: I think the story ends tonight.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: I like the cold water. You know, it's hard, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It is cruel. That's a cruel sport.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely is. And that's what's crazy is they were

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Speaker 3: up against it last night. And listen, you might be right, Jared.

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Speaker 3: Where to win five games in five nights is really

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Speaker 3: difficult to take down North Carolina. I just love that

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Speaker 3: that's the title game matchup. It's not just the nostalgia

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Speaker 3: of NC State going on this run and winning four

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Speaker 3: games and four nights. It's Oh, by the way, in

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Speaker 3: the championship game you face North Carolina, of course, right,

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Speaker 3: Like that's the way it's got to be. It's like

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Speaker 3: a move movie script here. But yeah, the way Dan

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Speaker 3: Shulman described it when he was doing the game on

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Speaker 1: I mean an absolute prayer.

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Speaker 5: That's March in a nutshell. Frankly, Yeah, sometimes you need

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Speaker 5: a prayer. I watch these games. I bet on a

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Speaker 5: lot of these weird games.

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Speaker 2: As you guys know.

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Speaker 5: It is excruciating. It's like Plinko. It's like it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And at the end of the game, this is

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Speaker 3: Jay Billis. I love what he does. But listen to

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Speaker 3: what he said again. Virginia misses the front end of

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Speaker 3: by four and it's a rap in the final second.

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Speaker 3: So they missed the free throw. You have NC State

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Speaker 3: what Jay Billis had to say about it. It was

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Speaker 3: well defendive, Isaac McGinley got a hand up, didn't foul.

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Speaker 1: What can you do except tip your cap?

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. Instead of just tipping your cap,

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Speaker 3: what you can do, you can foul. How many freaking

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Speaker 3: times do we have to go over this? I'm so

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Speaker 3: sick and tired of people like, well, you hit a three,

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Speaker 3: it was contested, We tip our cap, no foul and

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Speaker 3: don't give them any chance whatsoever. How many examples do

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well you know, and you look at that

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Speaker 4: you know, look, we talk a lot of football on Saturdays,

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Speaker 4: typically protecting the football, you know, not making the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: How about making your free throws like Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, get to the line and they were

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Speaker 4: ice cold, and then they had no answer for the

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Speaker 2: Like, there are just certain things that you have to do,

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Speaker 2: and like you said, you are allowed to foul, Brian.

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Speaker 4: Like, if somebody is taking over a game, sometimes the

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Speaker 4: best thing you can do is swat at their arms,

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Speaker 4: take them out of the moment where they have to think,

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Speaker 2: Like it can be.

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Speaker 4: That can be a tension breaker sometimes and a real

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Speaker 3: Teams all of a sudden, the moment catches up to them.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're in the second half of a game,

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Speaker 4: forces the moment upon you, and certain teams fold under

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Speaker 4: that pressure. But Virginia just didn't have the answers and

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Speaker 4: they did not make their free throws.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be the big thing in March, guys.

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Speaker 5: March is free throw Month. It's like, you know how

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Speaker 5: every month there's there's you know, Black History Month, Woman's

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Speaker 5: History month March is free throw Awareness Month, like it honestly, honestly,

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Speaker 5: it is absolutely gut wrenching to watch these kids. Now,

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Speaker 5: I know, I've never been in that situation before in

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Speaker 1: Every time I've been doing free.

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Speaker 5: Throws has been in an empty arena, an empty gym,

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Speaker 5: to have thousands of screening people at me, you know,

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Speaker 5: and the pressure really beyond. But I see these kids,

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Speaker 5: seventy five eighty eighty five percent free throw shooters get

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Speaker 5: and that's what the pressure really does.

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Speaker 1: So it's listen, this is why we love this sport.

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Speaker 5: But it's also why this sport is absolutely excruciating, excruciating.

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Speaker 3: To bet on.

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Speaker 5: But the next two weeks I'd put the next really

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Speaker 5: the mid majors, and then next week. Those three weeks,

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Speaker 5: I don't think. I think it might be the best

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'll tell you what you hit it on the

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Speaker 3: head where it's not easy to hit a free throw

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Speaker 3: when the pressure is on like that, But it is

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Speaker 3: gut wrenching to lose a bet that way. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: you if you were on Virginia yesterday and you don't

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Speaker 3: make one free throw in your case, if you grow

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Speaker 3: male the guy and you win and it goes to

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Speaker 3: overtime and you'll lose by heat and oh, just you

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Speaker 3: realised that's why you're gambling in the first place. That's

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Speaker 3: the way it's gambling Awareness month as well. There you go,

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Speaker 3: why do we do this here? Sometimes? But yeah, when

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Speaker 3: it goes your way, you're like, yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 3: was on the right side exactly.

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Speaker 1: Confirmation bias.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it goes. Okay, we have a ton

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Speaker 3: to get to. We've got, you know, Zach Edy, the

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Speaker 3: he's got. This sounds like a mouthful because it is,

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Speaker 3: but the first player with three consecutive twenty five point

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Speaker 3: double doubles in a conference tournament since some guy named

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Speaker 3: Tim Duncan. I never so, yeah, you've got three straight

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Speaker 3: of Zach Edy twenty five points. Got the rebounds as well.

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Speaker 3: But they're taking on Wisconsin in the Big Ten semis

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Speaker 3: and man, how about Purdue. You talk about survive in advance,

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Speaker 3: we save that for the Big Dance, but conference tournaments.

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Speaker 3: That was a tie game late against Sparti and with

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Speaker 3: Purdue last year against Fairley Dickinson losing in the sixteen

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Speaker 3: here comes Purdue and the next thing you know, they're

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Speaker 3: a tie game against Michigan's Fletcher Lawyer hit a huge three.

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Speaker 3: They win the game. But Purdue us one of those

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Speaker 3: That's all yesterday could make me think of.

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Speaker 1: They're a little bit better in that area this year.

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Speaker 4: They've won their last three by combining seventy eight points.

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Speaker 4: You know, Like, I get what you're saying, but I mean,

434
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Speaker 4: if they do what they've been doing, they sail to

435
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Speaker 4: a victory here. But like we like we just outlined,

436
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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's possible. Really, because Iowa State

437
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 4: they present such a problem in terms of matchup. They look,

438
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Speaker 4: this is truly Kelvin Sampson and the Houston Cougar is

439
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Speaker 4: holding up a mirror.

440
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Speaker 2: They're playing themselves. This is this is a practice.

441
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Speaker 4: Scrimmage where you're deciding who's going to keep the shirts

442
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Speaker 4: and who's going skins, and let's let's play, let's let's

443
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Speaker 4: put forty minutes on the clock. This is this is

444
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Speaker 4: a fun one. And and the truth is Houston's rolling

445
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Speaker 4: right now. Feels like they're on a little bit of

446
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Speaker 4: a revenge tour.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 4: They beat who was it TCU Thursday in the in

449
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Speaker 4: the quarters. They had gotten them earlier on They beat

450
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Speaker 4: Kansas recently, and they had gotten them earlier in the season.

451
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Speaker 4: Like this, this is this is a team that's got

452
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Speaker 4: It almost feels like it's a team that has a

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Speaker 4: list and they're they're going down with their magic mark

454
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Speaker 4: and they're scratching names off and here comes Iowa State.

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Speaker 3: Well, Bill, they've.

456
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Speaker 5: Lost three games all year. They've lost three games all year.

457
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Speaker 5: You just mentioned the two rich Kansas TCU. Guess who

458
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Speaker 5: the thirds against. Yeah, out up there in Hilton about

459
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Speaker 5: two months ago, January ninth. But speaking of Hilton, and

460
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Speaker 5: this is another element of today's game that you need

461
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Speaker 5: to take into account, Hilton is a three hour drive

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Speaker 5: from where the game is being played in Kansas City.

463
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Speaker 5: Hilton aren in Ames, Iowa was about three hours south,

464
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Speaker 5: and Brian.

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Speaker 1: You know that area very well.

466
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Speaker 5: Houston's a bit of a further trip. Now that's out

467
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Speaker 5: to say Houston's not going to have people there. It's

468
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Speaker 5: the championship game and it's their first Big twelve championship.

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Speaker 5: Houston is absolutely going to have a good crowd there.

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Speaker 5: But this is not going to be a neutral site.

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Speaker 5: I think Iowa State will have let's call it the

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Speaker 5: slight majority, let's call it sixty forty in terms of

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Speaker 5: the fans split. So if you just want to base

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Speaker 5: it off of the law, right, Houston was an eight

475
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Speaker 5: point favorite at home. They were a one and a

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Speaker 5: half point favorite on the road on a neutral just

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Speaker 5: based off of those Now, those games were, you know,

478
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Speaker 5: a couple months ago, right, things changed since then, But

479
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Speaker 5: just based off of that, you would think the fair

480
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Speaker 5: line for this game would be about four, right, right

481
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Speaker 5: in between eight and one and a half. Well, you're

482
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Speaker 5: getting five, So I think you're getting an extra point

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Speaker 5: with Iowa State when it's not really the true neutral setting.

484
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Speaker 5: Now again, Houston's been upgraded I think since middle of

485
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Speaker 5: the year. They've really looked good the last month. But

486
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Speaker 5: it's looked pretty darn good too. So they just absolutely

487
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Speaker 5: destroyed Baylor last night. So I think this is going

488
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Speaker 5: to be a really tight game. I think neither team

489
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Speaker 5: shoots free throws well. By the way, speaking of they're

490
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Speaker 5: both sub seventy percent on the year, so put.

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Speaker 1: That in your back pocket late.

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Speaker 5: If both of these teams are trying to get to

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Speaker 5: the line, it could be brick city.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is gonna be a really fun game, guys,

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Speaker 1: I do. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey man, the Iowa State fans were going crazy

497
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Speaker 3: last night against Baylor. Like I'm preparing some notes for

498
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Speaker 3: the show, and I would here, yeah, and I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Oh what they call it? Then? Can't you say?

500
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cyclobes. It's something good right there? You know

501
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Speaker 3: how it works out?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Something good? Right now? As our main man, Nick Cope,

504
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Speaker 3: gracing us with some information in charisma, Nick, how you

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Speaker 3: doing today, Buddy, doing great?

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Speaker 9: Guys, big day in college basketball, the big twelve is

507
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Speaker 9: one of thirteen conferences handing out automatic bids today. So

508
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Speaker 9: excited to get it going. It's all gonna be agin.

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Speaker 9: Can I interest you guys? Eleven AM Eastern in the

510
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Speaker 9: America East Vermont up in Burlington hosting U MASS Lowell.

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Speaker 3: We will have our first ticket.

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Speaker 9: Punched in just a few hours for the day Big

513
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Speaker 9: East Finals going to feature a top ten matchup Number

514
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Speaker 9: two Yukon fought off Saint John's. The number ten Marquet

515
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Speaker 9: beat Providence. NC State's run continues, the Pack hitting a

516
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Speaker 9: bank three at the horn to force overtime and ultimately

517
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Speaker 9: beat Virginia. Now they'll have a chance to steal a

518
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Speaker 9: bid tonight against number four North Carolina. Oregon is also

519
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Speaker 9: a potential bid stealer. The Ducks upset number six Arizona

520
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Speaker 9: in the PAC twelve semis. They'll match up with Colorado,

521
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Speaker 9: a bubble team that may have punched its ticket to

522
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Speaker 9: the Big Dance by knocking off number twenty two Washington

523
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Speaker 9: State last night. The Big ten in the SEC will

524
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Speaker 9: begin their semi finals today at one Eastern and just

525
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Speaker 9: a quick bubble watch depending on how the bid stealing

526
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Speaker 9: situation winds up today. Looking at anywhere from maybe zero

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Speaker 9: to three spots for the likes of Saint John's, Virginia,

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Speaker 9: Seaton Hall, Providence, Pitt and even Indiana State. So all

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Speaker 9: those teams really sweating things out right now to see

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Speaker 9: how things shake out here on this Saturday guys, back

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Speaker 9: to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Nick. It is Fox Sports Radio. It's Countdown to

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540
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Speaker 3: the year. How about Aaron Donald, he decides to hang

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Speaker 3: him up. What a career, the legendary defensive tackle of

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Speaker 3: the LA Rams. His resume is absurd and you rich,

543
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Speaker 3: especially as an NFL veteran, you can attest to this.

544
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Speaker 3: But ten years in the NFL pro bowler every single year,

545
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Speaker 3: ten years, ten time Pro bowler, eight time first Team

546
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Speaker 3: All Pro. That's the elite of the elite. He was

547
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Speaker 3: on it eight times of his ten year career. He

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Speaker 3: was a three time Defensive Player of the Year and

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Speaker 3: that ties Lawrence Taylor and JJ Watt. Those are the

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Speaker 3: only men that have won Defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 3: three times in the NFL. I love what Cardinals quarterback

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray posted. He just reacted to Aaron Donald stating

553
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Speaker 3: that he was retiring, and he wrote, thank God, thank goodness.

554
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Speaker 3: He said, honored to have competed against the best of

555
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Speaker 3: all time. Enjoy your retirement, and please don't come back,

556
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Speaker 3: which was perfectly stated.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

558
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna rewind the clock to the twenty fourteen

559
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Speaker 4: NFL season. I was playing with the then San Diego

560
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Speaker 4: Chargers and we had a game, a home game in

561
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Speaker 4: November against the Oakland Raiders, and it would end up

562
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Speaker 4: being the last game I ever played in. And I

563
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: was injured that season. I had a lingering back injury

564
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Speaker 4: that would end up pretty much ending my career.

565
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Speaker 2: I needed surgery. I needed it badly.

566
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Speaker 4: I was getting temporary paralysis at times down my right

567
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Speaker 4: leg wo where I could just be walking around in

568
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Speaker 4: my normal life on the football field, running around trying

569
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Speaker 4: to make plays, and it would be like like a

570
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Speaker 4: sniper tick took me out, Like I would just drop,

571
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Speaker 4: because when you lose feeling too an extremity as important

572
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Speaker 4: as your right leg, like you just there's nothing to

573
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Speaker 4: anchor you anymore, and you gotta wait till feeling comes back.

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Speaker 4: And I was having nerve pain and all this stuff.

575
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Speaker 4: It was all stemming from a really herniated disk, and

576
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Speaker 4: it was leaning on nerves important for obviously movement.

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Speaker 2: So this was happening. It was starting to scare me.

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Speaker 4: I was starting to lose a little strength, and I

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Speaker 4: was talking to the trainers, the athletic trainers, and I

580
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Speaker 4: was talking to the doctor who would eventually do my surgery.

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Speaker 4: And we're playing against the Raiders, and all of a sudden,

582
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Speaker 4: something happens to my right ankle. So on that same side,

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Speaker 4: I feel something pop or something twinge or tighten up,

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Speaker 4: whatever it was, And so I go into the tunnel,

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Speaker 4: I go into the locker room.

586
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Speaker 2: I go with the trainers the team docks.

587
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Speaker 4: They try to give me a little bit of a

588
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Speaker 4: numbing shot in my foot, like off to the side

589
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Speaker 4: of my ankle.

590
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Speaker 2: They're trying to find the right ligament.

591
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're putting needles in the bottom of my foot,

592
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Speaker 4: on the side of my foot like it was just

593
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Speaker 4: killing me.

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Speaker 2: They take me up.

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Speaker 4: I go back out on the field and I'm awful,

596
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Speaker 4: like I'm just in the worst shape at this point.

597
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm they're holding me together with like paper clips and glue.

598
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Speaker 4: And the game ends, and so, im my gosh, I

599
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Speaker 4: can't believe we got through that one. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: we won that game. And then I look at the

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Speaker 4: schedule and up next, who's coming to San Diego to

602
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Speaker 4: play us?

603
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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, the Saint Louis Rams and Aaron Donald and I'm

605
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Speaker 4: playing center, and I'm like, there is no fin way,

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Speaker 4: there is no way I got this back. I can't

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Speaker 4: push off my right legs sometimes. I got this ankle injury.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I literally looked at the prospect of trying to block

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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald at that moment and said, no, thank you,

611
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Speaker 4: I'm going to skip this one. And it ended up

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Speaker 4: being the last game I ever played was against Oakland Raiders,

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Speaker 4: and it was all because I was so terrified in

614
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Speaker 4: my current condition to go out there.

615
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Speaker 2: And face this man. He is a one man Wrecking Ball.

616
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: Is one of the most vicious and violent pass rushers

617
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: and run stoppers the game has ever seen. You cannot

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Speaker 4: overstate how impactful of a player Aaron Donald is or was.

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Speaker 4: And you don't call a lot of careers perfect, but

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he had a perfect career.

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Speaker 2: And that's a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: All day long, I can't top that story. That was awesome.

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Speaker 5: And the only thing I'll say is he should have

624
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Speaker 5: won that Super Bowl MVP. Not because I bet on him,

625
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Speaker 5: but because I was there and I watched it, and

626
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Speaker 5: he ended that game he did against the Bengals like

627
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Speaker 5: it was. Don't get me wrong, Stafford and Cup, great drive,

628
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: awesome stuff. It was Joe Burrow, ball in his hands,

629
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Speaker 5: game on the line. I think it was like right

630
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Speaker 5: at midfield, fourth down, game over ballgame, Aaron Donald sack,

631
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Speaker 5: goodnight Rams, super Bowl champs like that. It's rare that

632
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: defensive players the Super Bowl, very rare. Usually it's on

633
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: the offensive side, right, nope, or kicker. In this case,

634
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Speaker 5: it was the best defensive player that I've.

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Speaker 1: Ever watched ending the Super Bowl. Pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think it's awesome how the game has evolved and

637
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: yet he was still so special because it's so pass

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Speaker 3: happy during his ten year career. Think about how football

639
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 3: has evolved in the NFL, and we always talk about

640
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: teams prioritizing these really important positions like quarterback, wide receiver,

641
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: left tackle, and then defending the pass. You gotta have

642
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: an edge rusher, got to have a cornerback. You have

643
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Speaker 3: a defensive tackle who was wrecking the game, you know

644
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Speaker 3: what I mean and doing everything for his rams squad.

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Speaker 3: Where I just love that where we have all these

646
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: it'd be like a running back coming along and just

647
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: like WHOA, this guy is unbelievable. He's so valuable, or

648
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: an inside linebacker, you know what I mean. Like the

649
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: game has just evolved where you typically don't see that,

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Speaker 3: and yet Aaron Donald was as relevant at the end

651
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: of his career as he was at the beginning. As

652
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: the game has evolved year by year. It's a testament

653
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: to his greatness.

654
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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah it is.

655
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Speaker 4: And what you said right there, it's important to realize

656
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: when a defensive tackle is the player that you have

657
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: to circle on your depth chart and say, like, how

658
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: are we going to handle ninety nine this week? And

659
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: he's not going to stay stagnant. He's not just going

660
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: to line up a gap between the center and the guard.

661
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: He's going to line up over the center. He's going

662
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: to line up over the guards. He's going to line

663
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: up over the tackles. He's going to occasionally come off

664
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 4: the ball, and he's going to loop and stunt with

665
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: other defensive linemen. He's going to be a problem where

666
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: ever he lines up both sides, he's just as effective,

667
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: and you need to know where he is and you

668
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: need to commit now bodies and blockers to him, and

669
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: that frees up opportunities for other players.

670
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 2: What's so absurd.

671
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: About him is how much attention, especially in the second

672
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: half of his career that offense we're paying to him

673
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: to keep him under caps, to try to restrain his ability,

674
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 4: and you just couldn't.

675
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: There were no good answers to the problem.

676
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: He would split double teams, he would split triple teams.

677
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: If you tried to chip help with a back with

678
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: a back or a tight end before they went out

679
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: on their route, ay, you were disturbing you know, the

680
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: route concept, and b it wasn't all that effective. He

681
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: just was such a problem it forst quarterbacks to get

682
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 4: the ball out of their hands too fast. It forced,

683
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: you know, offenses to to limit how far down the

684
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: field that they could take shots because you didn't want

685
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: your quarterback to get hit by him because you're worried

686
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: about him injuring your quarterback. He was sensational and ten years, unfortunately,

687
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: is not enough.

688
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: I wish we got ten more years with Aaron Donald. Yeah,

689
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. Hey, you get Jared is in

690
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: the lab right now. You know, I can see the

691
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: smoke billowing out. I'm ready, he's ready. We were also break.

692
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: He's got the lab goggles on and everything. You know,

693
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: he's getting ready for that. I want to get ready.

694
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Break.

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Speaker 3: late letter. Okay, Jared Smith, you've been busy in the lab.

713
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: What have you cooked up for us?

714
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Let's do what we did last week, which is

715
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 5: a three team money line parlay with some favorites. Let's

716
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 5: not do what we did last week, which is win

717
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 5: the first two legs and then lose the third, because

718
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: that's always fun.

719
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: That's how That's how we ended last Saturday night with UMKC.

720
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: All right, these are blue bloods. These are teams you've

721
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: all heard of. These are teams that are relatively big favorites.

722
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: Today, let's start with Purdue, and again, I think this.

723
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Purdue team is built different.

724
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: They're facing Wisconsin in the Big Ten Semis today. They're

725
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 5: two to zero against the Badgers this year. They won

726
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: by eight at home just last week.

727
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Eaty in that.

728
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: Game, twenty five points, fourteen rebound, three assists, three blocks,

729
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: eleven for fourteen in a line and a.

730
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: Partridge in a fair tree. I mean, the guy is

731
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: just insane. He's gonna have a big day today. Wisconsin

732
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: defense was really struggled over the last month. They've lost

733
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: a ton of games in the Big ten outside the

734
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: top two to fifty in a lot of defensive metrics

735
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 5: outside the top three hundred, defending the three point line

736
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: for due shoots the three really well. Now I'm seeing

737
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: a little bit of Wisconsin money come in today.

738
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Could be Braden Smith's injury news. Keep an eye on that.

739
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 5: He did get nicked up in yesterday's game. I like

740
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: Auburn today agains Mississippi State. This is the SEC semifinal.

741
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: They split the two regular season series meetings, but both

742
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 5: teams won and covered at home. So again, Auburn's really

743
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: good at home, not so great on the roads. They've

744
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: been pretty good here on the neutral and Mississippi State

745
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 5: looked great yesterday against Kentucky, who doesn't play any defense.

746
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: Auburn plays a little bit better defense than Kentucky does,

747
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 5: and I'm.

748
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 1: Using that a lot.

749
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 5: Actually, Ken Palm says Ken Kentucky's outside the top one hundred,

750
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: Auburn's in the top five.

751
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Last time they played, they held the Bulldogs to six

752
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: or three.

753
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: Points nine blocks in that game. I think Auburn defensively

754
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 5: grinds went out today against the Mississippi.

755
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: State Bulldogs and finally KHN on the money line against Marquette.

756
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: This is the Big East Final. The last time they

757
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: played in stores when Marquette was at full strength, you

758
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: call him by twenty eight.

759
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: That was with Tyler Kohlek in the lineup. He will

760
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: not play today for Marquette.

761
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Guys. Yukon's like Ali in his prime. I think he

762
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: actually liked when you would get the first punch in.

763
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Yukon enjoys when you get that first blow in. They

764
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: trailed by ten nothing to Xavier, seven nothing yesterday against Saint.

765
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: John's and then the rope of Dope. They just come

766
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: in fury fists. I mean, they are so tough to

767
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: play against. Right now, I think Marquette is in for

768
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: a long day.

769
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: Auburn Yukon perdue all three Blue Blaad's on the money

770
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: line plus one twelve the parla at bet MGF.

771
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest struggle is the first one on the

772
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: list that perdue Wisconsin game. Tough to beat the same

773
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: team twice, Like you said, it wasn't It wasn't a

774
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: blowout victory. Was it was, you know, seventy eight to

775
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 4: seventy final in wes Lafayette there last weekend. So it's

776
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: gonna be bad. It might be the different thing, you know,

777
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 4: the one you're really concentrating on is the first rabble

778
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: out of the box one PM today.

779
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: I like the Ali comparison, right yeah, with Yukon right there,

780
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: and like it is with Dan Hurley, they have sort

781
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: of like a boxer's mentality, right. Dan Hurley is just

782
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: all intensity. I loved at the end of the game

783
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: against Saint John's last night, they were up pretty comfortably

784
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: and they just zoom in on him and he's like,

785
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 3: don't e been following jump shooter?

786
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: He's intense, Like is intense, And you're right, the Ali

787
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: reference just fit. It kind of hit me like a

788
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 5: ton of bricks yesterday because for the second straight day

789
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 5: they just come out and just kind of lolligag.

790
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Through the first four minutes. They let you land that

791
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 1: first punch.

792
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: Remember that the meme of the jip of Ali, like

793
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 5: dodging in the corner and like smiling when you're trying

794
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 5: to punch him rope though exactly like they like to

795
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: get punched early. It like sets their tone right.

796
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: They're just a machine right now.

797
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: And that's the tough thing.

798
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: Man.

799
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned it. Tyler Kohlik, who's been out with the injury.

800
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: They're trying to get him back for the big Dance.

801
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if he went today. He's probably gonna

802
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: be out again, and he's a huge part of their offense.

803
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: Makes him ticks, so without him it's even more of

804
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: an uphill battle for Marquette. Hey, right around the corner,

805
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: major trust issues, Which of the top teams do you

806
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: lack trust in? The most? Oh, welcome in here hoops

807
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: on the brain. We get you set for all the

808
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 3: conference tournament action today and also with an eye toward

809
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: March Madness. Hey, get ready to complete your bracket on

810
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815
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: question here, which are the top teams do you trust

816
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: the least? And you could look at the top five,

817
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: the top ten, however you want to break it down

818
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: with the rankings, but who do you have trust issues with?

819
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: Who is eyeing someone else while you're out on a date?

820
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 3: You know, who's sliding into someone else's DMS and you say,

821
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: what's this all about? And they're like, it's just a friend.

822
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: You know who's that team for you? I've got Tennessee

823
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: circled right now. I hope this is it a knee

824
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: jerk reaction. But Rick Barnes, Okay, the situation with Rick Barnes,

825
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: we all know it hasn't been just success city in

826
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: the Big Dance. He's twenty seven and twenty six overall

827
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 3: in the NCAA tournament. Made it to the final four

828
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: once way back in three with Texas had TJ. Ford

829
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: on that team. He hasn't gotten past the sweet sixteen

830
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: since two thousand and eight. Okay, and then they got

831
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: rolled by Mississippi State yesterday as the one seed in

832
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 3: the SEC tournament. Don't connect is fantastic, bud Rick Barnes

833
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: matched with yesterday, matched with that's one of the top

834
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: teams that I have major trust issues in. I would

835
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: put that team on my list.

836
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, you just have

837
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: to you have to have that.

838
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to say shield of invincibility, because there's

839
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: no such thing in college troops, especially because this.

840
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: Is all, you know, single elimination.

841
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: This is all win or go home stuff once you

842
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: get into the conference tournament and beyond. But you need

843
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: to have a little bit of mystique behind you, and

844
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 4: you don't necessarily have to be a blue blood.

845
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: You don't. You don't. But I just don't trust Tennessee.

846
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: I just I don't see a team that looks poised

847
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: enough to make a deep run Mississippi State. That game

848
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: obviously impacts my thoughts, but I felt this before. You know,

849
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: I feel differently about them than I do Purdue. I

850
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: feel differently about them than I do Arizona. I mean,

851
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 4: there's there's even teams nipping at their heels in their

852
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: corner of the bracket who I like a lot more

853
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: than Tennessee. So I just don't. I just don't trust them.

854
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 4: That's the perfect way to describe it. I just there's

855
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: something that I mean, I'm closing the door, and I'm like,

856
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: I'm leaving them to their own devices, and I know

857
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm coming back in here, and and there's gonna be

858
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 4: a disaster on the other side of that door.

859
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like.

860
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: At least, I don't blame you guys at all for

861
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: not trusting Tennessee. I'll give you two other teams that, unfortunately,

862
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 5: because of just the way the world works these days,

863
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: are eliminated from winning the national championship before the tournament's

864
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 5: even started, Duke and Creighton. And these are two teams

865
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 5: that we like a lot, right, But here's the nugget.

866
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: Here's the stat and this is this is factual. A

867
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: team has never won the national championship after losing their

868
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: first conference tournament game.

869
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: It's never happened.

870
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: So Duke lose denz State see you later can't win

871
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 5: the title, right, Tennessee gets blasted in their first conference

872
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: tournament game.

873
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's never happened. For now. Records are made to

874
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: be broken, right and all that stuff. But we're talking

875
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: about and.

876
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 5: I know the conference tournaments haven't been as around as

877
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: long as the NCAA tournament has, but it's been a

878
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: while in this century when the conference tournaments really are

879
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: the modernized version of what we watch today, It's never happened.

880
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 5: And that trend makes sense in my mind. And here's

881
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: how I justify it. If you can't win one game

882
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: against lesser competition, how are you going to win six

883
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 5: straight with the majority of them coming against higher level competition.

884
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's really really hard to do.

885
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 5: You have to show that mental toughness right from the start,

886
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 5: right and in my eyes, and I've traveled with college

887
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 5: basketball team's coaches, they view the conference tournaments as the

888
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: start of the postseason. I know the NCAA tournament is

889
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: the big boy, but this is when the one and

890
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 5: done nature of the season starts. If you can't survive

891
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 5: the first game in your conference, you're not winning six

892
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: straight in the NCAA tournament.

893
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: So throw Tennessee to the curb, Throw Duke to the curb,

894
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: throw Creighton.

895
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: To the curb.

896
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: I love those teams. I have a future.

897
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 5: Kentucky got balling out in their quarterfinal yesterday. SIA can't

898
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: win the title, and I have a future on Kentucky,

899
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 5: I might as well use it as toilet paper.

900
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: It's already dead.

901
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: You know. It's something that Bruce Pearl, the Auburn head coach,

902
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: was talking about before the game started yesterday, where he

903
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 3: was talking about what you were, essentially alluding to Jared,

904
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: where he said something like, hey, we've got x amount

905
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: of conference tournament games whatever. The number was like four

906
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: of these and then we got six. Right, so it

907
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: starts now he's detailing it. You're right, it's not separate

908
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: with the conference tournament and the Big Dance. A lot

909
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: of these coaches think of it as one big postseason clump,

910
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: and that's a rough start. I guess that's your mulligan

911
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: if you want to look at it glass half ball.

912
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: At least, it's not the Big Dance where you are

913
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: truly eliminated. But that is a rough, rough first step

914
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: with especially Tennessee, where you not only lose, but you

915
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: look bad. You scored nineteen points in the first half.

916
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: Nineteen in a college game like that just can't happen.

917
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: But if you look at the top ten, that's what's

918
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: interesting about college hoops. You look at these top teams

919
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: and most of them have a game or multiple games

920
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: where you're like what was that?

921
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 6: Right?

922
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: Like, Kentucky's a great example of that one. Oh man,

923
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: It's just like the last week they looked unbelievable at Tennessee,

924
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: and then yesterday it's like what happened against A and M?

925
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: Where you give up ninety seven points to Texas A

926
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: and M. You got on some defense and they just don't.

927
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: So and stylistically, Creighton, I love Creighton, but they play

928
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: a style where they rely on outside shooting so much

929
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: and they shoot it at a high clip. But when

930
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: they have that off game, it's like, well, then what's

931
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: your second punchy?

932
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

933
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: If your curveball is heavily relied on and it's just

934
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: not working, you don't have your A stuff. Well, I

935
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: hope you're not giving up home runs left and right.

936
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: You got to have something else there, and a lot

937
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: of times Creighton doesn't.

938
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what. That's a great point too.

939
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 4: You have to be able to play small ball sometimes.

940
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: I know it's a Major League Baseball reference, but the

941
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: era of analytics is alive and well in college basketball

942
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: as much as it is in baseball. You know, everybody

943
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: wants to aht home runs and we talk about those

944
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: three outcomes, you know, strikeouts, walks, and homers. It's all

945
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: you see anymore. Well, when a team can't hit home runs,

946
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 4: they can't win if their strategy is predicated around hitting

947
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 4: home runs because people forgot how to or don't work

948
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: on any longer how to put the ball on the

949
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 4: ground and get base runners on and over.

950
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: Same thing in basketball.

951
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: When you're cold from beyond the arc and your whole

952
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 4: philosophy is predicated around being good from distance, it's it's

953
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: almost like a magician who forgot his rabbit at home.

954
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: You got nothing left in the hat, and so it's

955
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna be. You're gonna see some top teams get

956
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: found out early in this bracket, like we do every year.

957
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: And to the point you made, Jared, teams that aren't

958
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 4: playing basketball today, Duke, Creighton, Kansas, Virginia, Arizona, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama.

959
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Nebraska is still playing for crying out like

960
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 4: the first guy.

961
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Ever on the weekend in the Big Tank. Congrats. Yeah,

962
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: huskar Fans have something to celebrate.

963
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's amazing what can happen during conference

964
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: tournament time. But to your point, Brian, all this matters.

965
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: It matters, you want a nurse, you want momentum heading

966
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: into the the bracket. That matters. But does it matter

967
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: a bunch No, no, because it isn't the dance. We'll

968
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: see how these teams operate when it is.

969
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: I'll tell you it's got momentum. As your Aztecs. I

970
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 5: was in the house last night, Rich they looked great

971
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: in the second half. The first half was oh boy.

972
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 5: Second half though, they look like an offensive team. And

973
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 5: that is kind of where we're going with this right balance.

974
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: The teams that we trust the most are the ones

975
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 5: that have the ability over a six game stretch to

976
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 5: win in multiple ways. That's why Houston scares me, and

977
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 5: not that they're not fantastic, but can they And they've

978
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: proven that they can this year more so than la

979
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: prior years. Remember the year they lost to Nova in

980
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: the Elite Eight. They scored like forty five points in

981
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 5: that game and they couldn't make a shot. They're much

982
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: better equipped in this current iteration to win a game

983
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 5: eighty five eighty In fact, they just won a game

984
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 5: a couple weeks ago eighty seven eighty five against Oklahoma. Again,

985
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 5: that's a game that and they won at Baylor eighty

986
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 5: two to seventy six.

987
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Now that game to go to overtime. But again, those games.

988
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 5: Are high scoring, high impact games that Houston used to

989
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: just not be able to keep up with.

990
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Now they can. Purdue is kind of on the other end.

991
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: I know Purdue can win ninety five to ninety can

992
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: they win sixty five sixty? That's where I'm a little

993
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 5: bit concerned with Purdue. Yukon doesn't matter. You want to

994
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: score one hundred, we can do that. Like Saint John's

995
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 5: wants to speed you up. Remember the clip yesterday with

996
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: Patino that really stuck to me.

997
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: During the game, they do the micd up coaches and

998
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: Patino's Like, guys, they're running and getting their shots quicker

999
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: than you are.

1000
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: That's your game. They're playing faster than you. You're supposed

1001
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 5: to be the fast team. But Yukon can also slow

1002
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 5: it down and defend. They can go multiple way. It

1003
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: doesn't matter how you want to play. Yukon can match you.

1004
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: Arizona they can only play fast. Tennessee can they play fast.

1005
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: They're more of a defensive team. Houston more defensive team,

1006
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 5: better offense, perdue all offense, no defense, right like everyone

1007
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 5: has warts except KAT They're the only team that doesn't.

1008
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is when we're looking at the

1009
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: top teams and where they might be vulnerable, you know,

1010
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: and we're talking about our trust issues in them. I

1011
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: think we could have stats all day. You know, this

1012
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: team shoots this clip from three, This team does this,

1013
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: and dues are their rebounding numbers that A lot of

1014
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: this comes down to how long do you lose focus?

1015
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1016
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: Like that is a real question. And I'll give you

1017
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: an example. Arizona before the conference tournament in the Pac twelve,

1018
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: they got beaten by double digits against USC, and it's

1019
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: like what like happening? They could barely score against USC,

1020
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And you could chalk it

1021
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: up to well, there wasn't much to play for. That's

1022
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, is think about this. If it's

1023
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: a David versus Goliath matchup and a lot of the

1024
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 3: early rounds are for the big dogs, how often does

1025
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 3: David lose focus? You know what I mean? They're the dogs.

1026
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: They're doing every They're throwing everything but the kitchen sink

1027
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: well and the kitchen sink at you. They aren't losing focus.

1028
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: But some of these games comes down to what is

1029
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: it like a little two minute window? Is it four

1030
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: minutes where you just lose focus? You know, because that's

1031
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: one of the major hurdles that these top teams have

1032
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: to jump over, and a team like you kunt just

1033
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: doesn't do that. Man, I think a lot of it

1034
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: is fueled from their head coach. Dan Hurley is a

1035
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: guy that's just not going to allow his team to

1036
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: lose focus. He is the bucket of ice water being

1037
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: thrown at you in the morning, and you're like, I'm.

1038
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm up right.

1039
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: But that's a big thing to keep in mind as

1040
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: we get geared up for March Madness here.

1041
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, look, whether you're Oregon or Mississippi State,

1043
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: you know, taking down a top seed in any of

1044
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: these conference tournaments, or you're a one seed going down

1045
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 4: The thing about it is March is so consequential because

1046
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: all it takes, like you said, Brian, like we all know,

1047
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: is one two minute run and that could determine your

1048
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: legacy forever. Some of these players only get one bite

1049
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: at this apple, right, Maybe they only get to go

1050
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: to March. They get to go to the dance one time.

1051
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're lucky enough to go too before they leave

1052
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: for the NBA, or maybe they transfer in at the

1053
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: right time and they catch the tail of the dragon

1054
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: and they all of a sudden they're having success and

1055
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: they get on the court for their opportunity. But all

1056
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: it takes is like a two minute run, five possessions.

1057
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: Maybe that could be it, that could seal your fate.

1058
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 4: We've seen it a million times. I'm sure the Wildcats

1059
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: went in the locker room and thought to themselves, like,

1060
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: just like we planned, and they came out in the

1061
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: second half and they got beat.

1062
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: It can happen, and it's so so predictable.

1063
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: And you can almost see some of these punches before

1064
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 4: they land.

1065
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: Almost.

1066
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 4: That's the reason why betting on March Madness is so

1067
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 4: much fun, because you can't quite see it. Afterward, I'm

1068
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: like that, I am the biggest like, post game, Oh,

1069
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: I should have seen that.

1070
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: It was so obvious, you know, you.

1071
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: Know you saw it at the conference tournament. Yet you

1072
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 4: knew it was gonna happen, and you didn't. But but

1073
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 4: you have to. You have to as a I don't know,

1074
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: as a better take in all the things you're seeing

1075
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: this weekend and then rest for a week and digest

1076
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: it and then try as best you can to apply

1077
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: it to the bracket that counts.

1078
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Here's the hard part too.

1079
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: I think at this stage the numbers don't help us

1080
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 5: as much as they should.

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Speaker 1: I think the.

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Speaker 5: Ken palm and Torvik and haslam and shot quality, these

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Speaker 5: are all data sources. This is where college basketball numbers

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Speaker 5: are originated from. You know, the odds makers pull a

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Speaker 5: lot of their data from these guys.

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Speaker 1: This is the adjusted offensive, justice, defense tempo, all this.

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Speaker 5: You know, efficiency stuff that you know is so important

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Speaker 5: in baking the lines these days. At this stage of

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Speaker 5: the season, the lines are so set it, but the

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Speaker 5: teams don't always play to the numbers. A lot of

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Speaker 5: it is adjustments, so there are edges to be found.

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Speaker 5: There's little I think the props are interesting at this

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00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 5: stage right, and we're talking about from a betting standpoint.

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Speaker 1: We're getting more college basketball props than ever before.

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Speaker 5: The more markets there are, the harder it is for

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Speaker 5: the sportsbooks to keep up with those markets. That's where

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Speaker 5: the holes come. So I think props will be something

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Speaker 5: I'll look at heavily. But I mean, guys, these these

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Speaker 5: are plink I call it plinko right in price is

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Speaker 5: right fan. These games are like Plinko, you know. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you guys are familiar with that game,

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Speaker 5: any of the audiences. Like it's just you drop the

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Speaker 5: coin and the bucket and it just it goes back

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Speaker 5: and forth, back and forth, and then eventually it'll find

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Speaker 5: its spot. Like That's how these games feel sometimes. So

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Speaker 5: a lot of it's just finding the best number and

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Speaker 5: then buckling up and holding on for dear life. At

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, though, there's three elite teams

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Speaker 5: and the line is clearly drawn for me after Houston,

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Speaker 5: Yukon Purdue, I don't trust anyone outside of that trio

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Speaker 5: to make a run and win the title. I'd be

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Speaker 5: shocked if those aren't three of your final four teams,

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Speaker 5: and I really hope we get two of those matching

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Speaker 5: up against each other in the championship.

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Speaker 3: the Big East Final Marquette against Yukon And the question

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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: for Marquette is can you win a game without your

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00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: best punch? And arguably the best punch is Tyler Colick

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00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: cam Jones give him a run for his money. But

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: when you don't have Tyler Kohlik, who's got the oblique injury,

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 3: it's a big deal. You go back to the most

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: recent meeting between these two squads, you had Marquette, they

1142
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: had two assists in the first half. They had eight

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: assists in the entire game against Yukon, and that's basically

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: what Tyler Kolick averages for the season. He's just under

1145
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: eight assists per game. So without his creativity, without his dishing,

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00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: it's a big deal for Marquette as they're set to

1147
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: take on Yukon, And I mean, you don't want to

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00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: be shorthanded when you're going up against the Huskies. That's

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00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: just stating the obvious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.

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00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 4: However, it was a little over a year ago that

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00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: Marquette was the last team to beat the national champion

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00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: Yukon Huskies, and then they didn't lose again the Huskies

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: until December. They did a pretty nice job this season overall.

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Speaker 4: But this is one of those interesting moments for Yukon

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00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: because we talked about it. How you know that Kembawaukee

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: year was magical once they got into the tournament, but

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00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 4: it took a lot for them to get there, and

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00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: that was the last conference tournament titled that the team's won. Now,

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Speaker 4: you can't put all that history onto this one moment.

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00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair. I don't think it's wise.

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: I don't think it really even matters. But there's a

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: lot of history, more recent history, Marquette knocking them out

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00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: last year in the conference tournament, and then the past

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00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 4: history searching for a conference win, especially since returning to.

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Speaker 2: The Big East.

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting dynamic, you know. So even short man

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: Marquette's got to feel a little something, a little swagger

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00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: because they were able to do it a year ago,

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00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 4: and Yukon's got a lot to play for, even though

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00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: it seems like they've got bigger ambitions, this is going

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: to be an important game to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if they remember that Big East semi final

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: last year when Marquette beat him at the Garden.

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Speaker 1: I think they do. I think they do.

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Speaker 5: And this has been kind of the mission for Yukon

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00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 5: all year, unlike last year.

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Speaker 1: Right, and it's hard to remember a world where Yukon

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: wasn't this because they haven't lost since that game last year,

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00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: but they were a force in the tournament. Last year,

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Speaker 1: they were not this dominant four.

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Speaker 5: They lost eight games coming into the tournament, including that

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Speaker 5: one against Marquette. They were not this dominant force. They

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01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 5: had this run during the middle of the season where

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01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 5: they kind of were figuring out their offense. This is

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 5: last year's team lost to Xavier and Providence and Seaton

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: Hall and Saint John's and then Xavier again and then

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Speaker 5: Creighton and then Marquette and the Big East Tournament, and

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Speaker 5: then they were clicking going into the Big East Tournament,

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Speaker 5: but Marquette just tripped them up. It was a tight game,

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 5: two point game, and Marquette just won it. This is

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 5: a totally different vibe this year. Like we make the

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Speaker 5: Muhammad Ali reference to Yukon and by the way, they

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 5: are the greatest in his prime.

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Speaker 1: Right now, like this is Yukon at the peak of

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Speaker 1: their power.

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Speaker 5: Now you've got to fight Muhammad Ali at full strength

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Speaker 5: and you've got one arm tied behind your back because

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Speaker 5: Tyler kolex out. I mean, it's just this is a tough,

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 5: tough ass tonight. Motivation is on the side of the Huskies.

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Speaker 5: Obviously after losing last year, there's no question they are

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01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 5: the more talented team. Even with Tyler Kolek playing, they

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 5: are the more talented team. But now we have to

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Speaker 5: get into that third question, which is price. Right, Yukon

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 5: was a seven and a half point favorite at home,

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 5: five point favorite on the road.

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Speaker 1: Now we're laying nine and a half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, well is it worth that? I would

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: say yes, but there's probably better bets on the board

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Speaker 5: to make today.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's fair. I look at that lion and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a lot of points. I might go with.

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01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna lay them.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to.

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: Step in front of the train, right.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those where you're like, man, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: give me all those points, and I'm like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: why are you giving me all those points? Exactly? It's look, man,

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Speaker 3: Yukon is arguably the best team in college basketball. They're

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Speaker 3: the defending champs. We don't want to make them out

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01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: to be some superpower, but really this was kind of tough, cheek,

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: kind of not Yukon beat Saint John's yesterday. This was

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Speaker 3: Rick Patino what he said before the game. Check this

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Speaker 3: out Yukon tomorrow. What do you have to knock them?

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Speaker 1: Off, we got to have not six of their players

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Speaker 1: get COVID. Just stop the interview after that.

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Speaker 2: It was so great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just to drop the mic moment right there. But seriously,

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Speaker 3: can you think about that if you want to keep

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: it in college hoops, if you want to go with

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Speaker 3: the NBA, even if you wanted to bring football into

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Speaker 3: the equation, can you close your eyes and imagine hearing

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Speaker 3: a coach saying that about an upcoming opponent, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like if it's the Eastern Conference Finals

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: and they're interviewing Doc Rivers and they say, hey, what

1237
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: do you need to do to beat the Boston Celtics

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: and he says, we need six of their players to

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Speaker 3: catch COVID. That's what we need. That's the game plan. There,

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Speaker 3: we'd be like, what, But that's what Patino literally said

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Speaker 3: about Yukon. That's how good they are.

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 4: Well, and you know they have scorers and they know

1244
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 4: how to fill up the basket. Sure, but also it

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01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 4: is almost a better football comparison than it is a

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01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: basketball comparison because how prepared they are from a half

1247
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: court offensive display, like you can, they're creative, you know,

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: it almost feels like an Andy Reid offense. If we

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: want to make an NFL comparison, it's fun to watch them.

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01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 4: They attack your defense so many different ways. They can

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01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: obviously win and score on breakaways. They have great ball

1252
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: handlers and great shooters and guys who know how to drive.

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Speaker 4: But also when they get into the half court stuff,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost like they go through the history

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 4: books Dan Hurley and he's able to find all of

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 4: the things that attack the defense they're facing. They gain

1257
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: plan it, and within days or a week's time, they

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: come up with the perfect, most efficient half court plan.

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Speaker 4: And that's difficult. Like, so not only do you have

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Speaker 4: the scorers and the guy who guys who can actually

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 4: bring it to the rack, but you also can run

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: like an astoundingly crisp half court offense. They're I'm not

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Speaker 4: that nobody's unbeatable. Everybody can be beat but they have

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Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of my respect going into March.

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Speaker 1: They come at you in waves.

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Speaker 5: They so last year they were more big, they had

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Speaker 5: Sonogo the big man, right, and they were more of

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 5: an inside out team. Now they were still very good.

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Speaker 5: They had Jackson and you know Hawkins. You know, these

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Speaker 5: are the guys that have moved on from last year's

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: team that were kind of wing players. This year they're

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Speaker 5: much more focused on the perimeter because you bring in

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Speaker 5: Cam Spencer from Rutgers, who is just gritty. He defends,

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 5: he can shoot, he can get inside, he can penetrate.

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Speaker 5: So you replace a big man starter with kind of

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 5: a guard and they're a little bit more perimeter oriented

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01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 5: team this year, and it's changed their offense a little bit,

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: but they're still so efficient, and that's the thing about it.

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Speaker 5: Like last year they were a little bit quicker with

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: their tempo, this year they're one of the slowest tempo

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 5: teams in the country. And here's a peak behind the

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: curtain for how I look at certain teams and how

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 5: efficient they are. So Ken Palm's offensive efficiency grade basically

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01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 5: just counts how many points per one hundred possessions. Well,

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 5: if you run a really slow tempo, which Yukon does,

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 5: it's harder to score more points through one hundred possessions.

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01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 5: Slower possessions, less possessions in the game, less points. They're

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Speaker 5: still number one in adjusted offense one hundred and twenty

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01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 5: six point nine points per one hundred possessions. Despite the

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Speaker 5: fact that they play at one of the slowest tempos

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Speaker 5: in the country. That is peak efficiency, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think there's a team in the country that. Again, if

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Speaker 5: you want to play fast, they have that ability. They

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Speaker 5: showed you it yesterday against Saint John's. They ran up

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Speaker 5: and down all over the Red Storm. If they want

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Speaker 5: to play slow, they can do that too. Like, how

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Speaker 5: do you attack them? How do you defend that? There

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Speaker 5: is no weakness And that is why right now, you're right, Brian.

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Speaker 5: They're not like Kentucky with Karl Anthony Towns like dominant,

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Speaker 5: but I would say they're kind of a step below

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Speaker 5: that just because of how easily they can get valuable shots.

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Speaker 3: I like the phrase peak efficiency because it not only

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Speaker 3: describes Yukon, it also describes Nick Cope. Oh right, peak

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Speaker 3: efficiency spinning us around the sporting world. Nick, what should

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Speaker 3: we be aware of, Buddy, Well.

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Speaker 9: Just so people are aware, this game will be at

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Speaker 9: six thirty eastern on Fox TV. Gonna be a great matchup,

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Speaker 9: great day of college basketball because we've got thirteen automatic

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Speaker 9: awarded within the next couple of hours. The America East

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Speaker 9: Championship Vermont and UMass Lowll that'll get going at eleven

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Speaker 9: am Eastern NC States run continues. The ten seed in

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Speaker 9: they'll have a chance this evening to steal a bid

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Speaker 9: against number four North Carolina. Oregon is also a potential

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Speaker 9: Pac twelve Semis. They'll match up with Colorado, a bubble

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Speaker 9: team that very well may have punched its ticket by

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Speaker 9: knocking off number twenty two Washington State last night at

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Speaker 9: the Big twelve. Number one Houston and number seven Iowa

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Speaker 9: State cruise to victories in the semis, So that is

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Speaker 9: the matchup for the title game. Cougar is perhaps trying

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Speaker 9: to cement the number one overall seed for the NCAA tournament. Also,

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Speaker 9: the Big ten in SEC will have their semi finals today,

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Speaker 9: Seaton Hall, Providence and Pitt and in golf guys' third

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, no, we're getting serious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah hold on, let me let what if you've done?

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Speaker 3: What going on? So, while I'm looking at the conference

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Speaker 3: tournament slate today, I just wanted to say that I

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Speaker 3: Brian know, I root against teams with losing records. I

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Speaker 3: root against them, and I'm looking at the slate. We've

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Speaker 3: got Brown in the IVY League twelve and seventeen. I'm

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Speaker 3: rooting against you Brown. We've got Delaware State fifteen and

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Speaker 3: seventeen in the MEAC, I'm against you Delaware State, and

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Speaker 3: Temple fifteen and nineteen in the Act the American Semis.

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Speaker 3: I'm rooting against you Temple Owls. I just look at

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Speaker 3: it like this, guys. I love the magic of the

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Speaker 3: conference tournaments because there's an automatic bid on the line.

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Speaker 3: I just hate the principle of it from some of

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Speaker 3: these one bid leagues where if you have a one

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Speaker 3: seed Quinnipiac, right one seed yesterday they lose on a

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Speaker 3: buzzer beater against Saint Peter's. And great for Saint Peter's.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, but I hate when these teams are asleep

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Speaker 3: at the wheel throughout the entire regular season and then

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Speaker 3: they just wow, it's conference tournament week and they wake

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Speaker 3: up and they go on a little run and they're

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Speaker 3: in the dance, no questions asked. I don't like the

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Speaker 3: principle of that although I love the excitement that it generates.

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Speaker 3: But long story short, it's not the same pressure for

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Speaker 3: a team that hasn't done anything all season, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: They're like, we got nothing to lose, yet the one

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Speaker 3: seed in a one big league. They're like, if we

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Speaker 3: don't win this game, it's all for nothing. And sometimes

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Speaker 3: they get tight and the team that sucks all year

1380
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 3: wins a game and they get in. I freaking hate that.

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Speaker 3: So I root against these teams with losing records. I'm

1382
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 3: not against all underdogs, but you at least have to

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Speaker 3: have a winning record. That's my baseline requirement for me

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Speaker 3: to root for you. I get it, I definitely get it.

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Speaker 4: And it's a very funny point, like teams out of

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 4: the MEA have Brian No like shaking its face that cloud.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Delaware State, I hope you, Birn Yeah yeah, Brown.

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Speaker 4: University u IVY League fools like I just I think

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Speaker 4: it's awesome. But you know, I what's beautiful about college

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Speaker 4: basketball is it is still a meritocracy from the standpoint

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Speaker 4: of you have to do something impressive to get there.

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Speaker 4: So it is impressive if you're a team with a

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Speaker 4: losing record, for example, like the example you're making to

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Speaker 4: get a win in a conference tournament, let alone to

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Speaker 4: win the conference tournament and gain access to March Madness

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Speaker 4: like that is that is earning it in some way.

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Speaker 4: If it were a lottery, I would more agree with you,

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Speaker 4: Like if if you had a handful of teams every

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Speaker 4: year where they literally just spun a wheel and they said,

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Speaker 4: and the lucky winner is and you know, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudd and we have teams that look like their

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 4: lambs to slaughter out there, you know, fighting their way

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Speaker 4: out of the West bracket or something that would stink.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that they had to do something impressive,

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 4: especially comparatively to the season and how it went that that,

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, it gives me enough of a reason

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01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 4: to root for some of those teams.

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Speaker 1: Some of them you can't root for them, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they come out of nowhere, they're gone in

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: the first round, and they're just you know, it's they're just.

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Speaker 2: Chumming the water.

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Speaker 4: But some of them, they're cute stories or they're they're

1413
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 4: great stories. You know, a star player was injured the

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: majority of the season. They finally turned it on at

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Speaker 4: the end of the regular season, they won their conference

1416
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 4: tournament and then boom they somehow get to you know,

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 4: the round of sixteen, and you're staring down a potential

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Speaker 4: to see a team in a final four.

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Speaker 5: I think context matters, So Brian, the clarification, what if

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Speaker 5: they start their conference tournament below five hundred, but after

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01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 5: their final win they're does that is that?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: I would factor that into my room.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So we have a qualifier here that we can add.

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Speaker 5: The good news is Brown's gonna lose today because a

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Speaker 5: underdog of more than four points in the IVY has

1427
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 5: never won a game so in the right in the

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Speaker 5: IVY League tournament's only been around for like five years,

1429
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: but usually there's been eight instances of a you know,

1430
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 5: medium to heavy favorite four points or more. In the

1431
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 5: IVY tournament, it's always favorites, it's always chalk. So I

1432
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 5: feel confident Printon's going to win today, and then those

1433
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 5: other teams, I agree, Like it's it's really hard to

1434
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 5: get behind a sub five hundred mid major that just

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Speaker 5: kind of backs their way in.

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Speaker 1: It just it doesn't happen a whole lot, thankfully, right.

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Speaker 5: I think Yukon really that that twenty eleven Yukon team

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 5: was kind of like the outlier of all outlier NCAA champions.

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Speaker 1: Although I'll be honest, San Diego State was making a

1440
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Speaker 1: push for it last year, right.

1441
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 5: Last year was the year of the outlier San Diego

1442
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 5: State and Florida Atlantic in the Final four, playing each

1443
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 5: other in the final four. I mean, that was just

1444
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if we're gonna get another glimpse of

1445
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 5: that this year. Like those are two Act and Mountain

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 5: West Conference teams playing on the grandest of stages in

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Speaker 5: college basketball.

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Speaker 1: So my guess is it's a little bit chalkier this year.

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Speaker 5: And you get more blue bloods, But man, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: get one probably crazy bracket that throws everything off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, I'll say super fast. I think

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: sometimes we just get used to stuff, sure, where we're

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 3: used to the conference tournament and the auto bids and

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Speaker 3: all of that. Could you imagine if this was in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, where if they're like, you could have a

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Speaker 3: sucky record, but if you win your division tournament, you're

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Speaker 3: in the NFL playoffs, no questions. Next you'd be five

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Speaker 3: and twelve. But if you go on a little mini run,

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Speaker 3: who cares? You're in right, Like we'd be like, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: That's what conference what they are with the autobids. But look, man,

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Speaker 3: it produces some of the great moments. NC State. They

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have gotten in in eighty three if they didn't

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Speaker 3: win their conference tournament. So I just ask you have

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Speaker 3: a winning record, that's all. That's all. I'm not asking

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Speaker 3: for thirty and two. Just get me above five hundred

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Speaker 3: or at least two five hundred. Okay, you just can't

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Speaker 3: be five games under five hundred and sneak it. I

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Speaker 1: I Am not going to overthink this. I when you

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Speaker 5: Let's look at Zach Edie. Let's look at his rebounding

1501
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 5: prop eleven and a half. This is just smash city

1502
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 5: for me to be over. Get fourteen the last time

1503
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 5: these two teams played Wisconsin.

1504
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: Third game in three nights.

1505
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 5: We'll see if they can continue what's been a nice

1506
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 5: little run for them through this Big Ten tournament. Had

1507
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 5: a good game yesterday against Northwestern, but they don't have

1508
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 5: the size to match up with he.

1509
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: This is just a volume thing.

1510
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 5: I think Purdue is a little bit banged up in

1511
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 5: the backcourt, and I think Edie, I mean, he always

1512
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 5: plays a lot of minutes, but might even play more

1513
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 5: minutes than usual today.

1514
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: They will need him to be the man in the middle.

1515
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 5: If he gets the full allotment of minutes, he doesn't

1516
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 5: get into foul trouble. I don't see how thirteen fourteen

1517
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 5: rebound is not the floor today for the big man

1518
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 5: for producing.

1519
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, I got two for you. SCSU faces New

1520
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: Mexico today.

1521
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 4: Jayden Ladie has been a star all season for the Aztecs.

1522
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 4: The forward has twenty and a half points he has

1523
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 4: to cover up today. I think he'll do that. He

1524
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: had twenty two last night against Utah State. Tristan Newton

1525
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 4: of Yukon. He scored twenty of his twenty five total

1526
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: points in that Friday night game over Saint John's in

1527
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: the first half, So I'm looking at his first half

1528
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 4: point total of seven points and I'm taking the over

1529
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: there as well. So Jaden Ladie full game, twenty and

1530
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: a half, Tristan Newton seven point first half, I'm taking

1531
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: over there as well.

1532
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 3: Look at two with the first half line there, like

1533
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: it makes me think of Deebo Samuel's first half Super

1534
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: Bowl rushing.

1535
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know that that we still have mayonnaise that

1536
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: we need to drink as a result of that.

1537
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 3: Yes, that is correct. So I'm looking at Cam Spencer,

1538
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 3: the Yukon guard. The guy's just been hot from three.

1539
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take over two and a half threes and

1540
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: it's plus money. You get it at plus one oh

1541
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 3: five at bet MGM. He hit four of them yesterday.

1542
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: He hit five of them in the most recent matchup

1543
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: against Marquette. So I'm gonna go with Cam Spencer to

1544
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,440
Speaker 3: fill it up from three. That's what I'm looking at today.

1545
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: Like that a lot. I was almost on Cam Spencer

1546
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: first half. It's interesting.

1547
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 4: Yukon is the type of team that they can struggle

1548
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 4: at times, like they got all they could handle last night.

1549
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, they they really they find a way to score.

1550
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 4: I mean, they'll they'll pace with anybody, so especially if

1551
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 4: Marquette's having a hot night, if they're if they're scoring

1552
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: in bunches like that's one thing the Huskies will do.

1553
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: They'll keep pace.

1554
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: They're not gonna They're not gonna be out of a

1555
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 4: game where an offense gets gets hot.

1556
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really like the prop market in college tips. Guys.

1557
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 5: We're gonna talk a lot about it over the next

1558
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 5: couple of weeks. There'll be more props to bet on.

1559
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: The more games there are, the higher profile games in

1560
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: the tournament, the prop market to me becomes a little

1561
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: bit more valuable.

1562
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes they steal your thunder where it's like, oh,

1563
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 3: I like this under or whatever, and it's like minus

1564
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 3: two ten, I'm like, oh you thirty right all right

1565
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: right around the corner. A couple of the biggest tournaments,

1566
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: the semis will dive into them. Oh what is going on? Everybody,

1567
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: We've got you covered on countdown to tip off for

1568
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: the next four weeks knee deep in college hoops. As

1569
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: we've got conference tournaments going on here. Of course, the

1570
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: brackets announced tomorrow, right, we got selection Sunday tomorrow. You

1571
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 3: rocking any Green? Are you Irish at all? Jared?

1572
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 6: You know?

1573
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean the background over.

1574
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: There, ginger beard here yis that.

1575
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm about as Eastern European Jewish heritage as you can get.

1576
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: Are you rocking over there?

1577
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: I have a grandfather, my mom's dad.

1578
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,520
Speaker 4: His name was John Green, so he's about as Irish

1579
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: as a human being competing of the morning to you, Ornberger,

1580
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 4: That guy Wood eat potatoes three meals a day. So

1581
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: my yeah, I got some Irish blood in me. And we,

1582
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 4: you know, we we really enjoy Saint Patrick's stay at

1583
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: the house because with a five year old and an

1584
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 4: eight year old, those darn leprechauns, they're always they always

1585
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: come to the night before Saint Patrick's day and they

1586
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 4: just they cause mischief. Guys, we're still trying to catch one.

1587
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 4: We haven't yet.

1588
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we set our traps the night before.

1589
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, very nice.

1590
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

1591
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,879
Speaker 3: I got a little Irish in me on my dad's side,

1592
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: Polish on my mom's side mainly. And I don't know

1593
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: where it goes from there, no idea. So people what

1594
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: is it? The is it twenty three? And me, oh yeah, yeah,

1595
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: but DNA, yeah, man, God bless you if you're into that.

1596
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 3: I'm just I've never It's like your great great great

1597
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 3: grandfather was John whatever. I've never met the guy. Don't

1598
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: really care.

1599
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm more understanding what my dog's heritage is than mine.

1600
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: Frankly, there you go. So we got a couple of

1601
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 3: conference tournaments. We're in the SEMIS now in the Big

1602
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 3: Ten and also the SEC if we dive into the

1603
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Big Ten. First Wisconsin taking on Purdue taking on Illinois. Coincidentally,

1604
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 3: the one college basketball game I went to in person

1605
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 3: this year was Nebraska at Illinois. Oh wow, and it

1606
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: was an overtime barn bird. It was a great game. Yeah,

1607
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: So hopefully we get some similar drama today. But all

1608
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 3: eyes on Purdue. I think mainly with Zach Edy. He's

1609
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: been sensational. He's the first player since Tim Duncan to

1610
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: have three consecutive twenty five point double doubles in a

1611
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: conference tournament. So he's been putting in work, and you

1612
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: would expect the same against Wisconsin today. I don't know

1613
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: what you do if you're Tyler Wall, if you're one

1614
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 3: of these like quote unquote bigs for Wisconsin. You're not

1615
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: the same level as Zach Edy in terms of just size,

1616
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: stature or all that. When you're on the block, you're

1617
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 3: trying to to d that guy up. Good luck, good luck.

1618
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard. But they're gonna do the best

1619
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 3: they can. And we'll see if Purdue can couple the

1620
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 3: EAD advantage with some outside shooting. Because Fletcher Lawyer hit

1621
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: a huge three against Sparti yesterday. So when they're able

1622
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: to hit from distance and they're able to run a

1623
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 3: little bit, they're really dangerous. Last real quick thing. That

1624
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 3: was my main gripe the last time they played. Purdue

1625
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: was just so slow against Wisconsin. And I know styles

1626
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: make fights, but I want to see Purdue dictate pace

1627
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 3: instead of saying, well, let's just settle for a half

1628
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 3: court set here, I want to see them move the

1629
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 3: ball down the court. If they can get something easy

1630
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 3: in transition, great, If not cool, settle for a half

1631
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 3: court set, play through edie, that's fine, But I want

1632
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 3: to see them push the pace at times, and I

1633
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: don't think they did that the last matchup.

1634
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you look at the other semifinal with

1635
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 4: Illinois and the Huskers in Nebraska. If you're paying attention

1636
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: to what they did to Indian Indiana, it was a

1637
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 4: complete dismantling.

1638
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean the.

1639
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 4: Huskers they were good for about half the shots they

1640
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 4: took from the floor going in.

1641
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,560
Speaker 2: I think Indiana.

1642
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 4: Managed to shoot thirty five percent, making just five of

1643
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 4: twenty three pointers.

1644
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: They were ice cold and Nebraska was on fire.

1645
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 4: And you look, you can catch one, and you can

1646
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: catch a team on an off night, and that's what

1647
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 4: that feels like happened. But Illinois obviously poses a very

1648
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 4: different threat as we're getting closer to the top of

1649
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: the mountain in the Big Ten. But this is again

1650
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 4: another one of those things where whatever it is, I

1651
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: think they are a three seed. Nebraska, whoever emerges out

1652
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 4: of this Purdue Wisconsin tilt they could have, they could

1653
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 4: have a problem on their hands. They if either one

1654
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 4: runs into a Nebraska team with a head full of steam.

1655
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 4: I will say this though I'm more interested obviously in

1656
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 4: Purdue Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin's got a real defense, and

1657
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 4: as much as I love Edie, there have been ways

1658
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 4: to shut them down this season. I don't think you

1659
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 4: can completely take him out of the game. But you

1660
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 4: can slow him down and if you can get that

1661
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 4: guy in foul trouble early, if you could get him

1662
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 4: in a situation where he's frustrated early, this could be

1663
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: a game for the Badgers.

1664
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1665
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 5: I'll start with Nebraska Illinois because we haven't talked about

1666
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 5: that a ton and I do have some I think

1667
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 5: it's an interesting game. I think both of these are

1668
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 5: they're both over teams overs this year twenty one and

1669
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 5: eleven for Nebraska, twenty two to ten for Illinois. Again,

1670
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 5: these are high pace, high tempo teams. The first game,

1671
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 5: as Brian alluded to, eighty seven, eighty four and overtime

1672
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 5: way over the total. Obviously overtime help, but that was

1673
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 5: a high tempo, high pace kind of game. And I'll

1674
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 5: be honest, Nebraska not bad against the number this year,

1675
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 5: twenty one and eleven. I mean, this is a very

1676
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 5: unique team that Fred Hoiberger is kind of coaching. They're

1677
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 5: kind of balanced on both ends. They don't do anything

1678
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 5: exceptionally well, they're just kind of solid.

1679
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Across the board. I will say this.

1680
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 5: You go back and you look at that box score

1681
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 5: from Illinois. It was back on February fourth, they got

1682
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 5: out rebounded in that game fifty to thirty three plus

1683
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 5: seventeen on the glass, and the ALIGNI are not this tough, gritty.

1684
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, rebounding team. Well guess who is perdue.

1685
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 5: So I just I think if it is Nebraska in

1686
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,879
Speaker 5: you know, in Purdue, you know that that matchup tomorrow,

1687
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 5: I think that really favors Purdue. I think Illinois has

1688
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 5: a chance to kind of run up and down right

1689
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 5: like they win into West Lafayette the Aligne I did

1690
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 5: back in early January and they only lost by five.

1691
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean that was a tight game on the road.

1692
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 5: And you know they lost by six at home a

1693
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, So they've played Purdue very tight

1694
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 5: this year. I think they are hands down the more

1695
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,959
Speaker 5: talented of the two teams in that side of the bracket.

1696
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 5: I just don't know if Brad Underwood, he always seems

1697
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 5: to kind of coach himself out of these games. They

1698
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 5: play a very frenetic pace. Their best player, Terren Shannon's

1699
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 5: all over the map. I mean he when he's playing great,

1700
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 5: he is fantastic, but he can get a little loose

1701
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 5: with the handles. The one thing that's different from this

1702
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: year they have a secondary score Domask, who's kind of

1703
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 5: like the one A to the one B. And that

1704
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 5: makes them very dangerous because if they are doubling Shannon,

1705
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 5: they can go somewhere else. But I just think Purdue,

1706
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 5: like if you graded all these teams, I just think

1707
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 5: Purdue is head and shoulders above the rest in the

1708
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 5: Big Ten.

1709
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: How about the SEC Tournament where we're in the Semis again,

1710
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: So two games today, Mississippi State taking on Auburn and

1711
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 3: I hope the guy reading the book is there again.

1712
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 3: Oh that was awesome, the guy up in the nosebleeds

1713
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: reading a book and Marty Smith interviewed him. It was

1714
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 3: a great moment. It was a lot of fun. You

1715
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 3: also have Texas A and M against Florida. I don't

1716
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: want to speed past the Semis, but honestly, I'd love

1717
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 3: to see Auburn and Florida matchup in the final tomorrow.

1718
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 3: That'd be a lot of fun both teams. Florida's offense

1719
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: is really really good and they defend you and their

1720
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: offense is a lot of fun to watch. Also, jan

1721
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 3: I Broom is one of the better players in college basketball.

1722
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Just smooth. The lefty is smooth and so Auburn, I'm

1723
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 3: not only looking at them in the SEC tournament. I'm

1724
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 3: so curious to find out what their true ceiling is

1725
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: come Big Dance time. Because when you defend, I think

1726
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: that gives you a real shot in pretty much any

1727
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: game that you play, and Auburn, for the most part,

1728
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: defends you. Every now and then they'll have a slip up.

1729
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 3: You're like, what was that? I thought you guys were

1730
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: good defensively, but for the most part, they get after you,

1731
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: and I think that's huge. I think we spend too

1732
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: much time talking about forcing turnovers and shooting threes. It's

1733
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 3: obviously immensely important, but we're just we overlook sometimes team defense.

1734
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 3: We'll give Houston their flowers, but a solid defensive team

1735
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: like Auburn, we're kind of like, shoulder shrug, show us

1736
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 3: how many threes you make?

1737
01:28:59,000 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1738
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: I think we do that to a fault too much.

1739
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I agree.

1740
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 4: I think sometimes we typecast teams inappropriately, and that can

1741
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: be the case with Auburn. What I will say is

1742
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 4: the most interesting thing about the SEC Tournament, and this

1743
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 4: is unfortunate for the SEC. Poor SEC, but it's the

1744
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 4: teams who aren't playing today Tennessee gone, they lost to

1745
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,879
Speaker 4: Mississippi State, Alabama gone lost to the Gators, Kentucky gone

1746
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: lost to Texas, A and M. So we have a

1747
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 4: SEC semifinal of Mississippi State taken on Auburn and A

1748
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 4: and M taking off Florida. And this looks very different

1749
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: than most years for this tournament. And so Auburn's really

1750
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 4: the torch pair of anything that resembles a top team

1751
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: in the SEC coming in to this tournament, and if

1752
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 4: they lose to Mississippi State, it'll be somewhat disastrous in

1753
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 4: terms of viewership or interest or all the things that

1754
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: matter to you know, chairs and executives with these conferences

1755
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 4: and things like that. From a fans standpoint, though, I

1756
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 4: like chaos. I think that's what's so fun about this

1757
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: month is the fact that it is a roll of

1758
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 4: the dice. And as much as you want to say

1759
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 4: the fixes in or all these things are scripted, you know,

1760
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 4: in all these sports leagues, March madness is just that

1761
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 4: it's madness, and it's for a reason because you cannot

1762
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 4: you just cannot predict these outcomes.

1763
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if the Florida games lined properly today.

1764
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 5: I think A and M is probably right. Even with Florida.

1765
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 5: I would probably take points there, especially if getting a

1766
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 5: full three.

1767
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: The one thing A and M really struggles with is shooting.

1768
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 5: Florida is better offensive than they are defensively, so maybe

1769
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 5: A and M can get a little bit going offensively.

1770
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,759
Speaker 5: But when you look at Florida, I agree with you, Brian,

1771
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,879
Speaker 5: like they they have kind of balance. I like balance.

1772
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 5: I like teams that can defend, that can run you

1773
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 5: off the three point line, that limit turnovers, that get

1774
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 5: to the free throw line. Those are like Ken Palm

1775
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 5: has these four factors that are kind of the key.

1776
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 5: It's shooting, turnover percentage, rebounding percentage, free throw rate. Like

1777
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 5: to me, those are the four things that dictate if

1778
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 5: you are going to be successful in any basketball game.

1779
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 5: And Florida does all four of them pretty well. They

1780
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 5: don't have any red on their ledger. They're kind of

1781
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 5: green or maybe yellow across the board in those four

1782
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 5: factors where A and M is green, except for one shooting.

1783
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 5: They cannot shoot. They're like one of the worst shooting

1784
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 5: teams in the country. And I think if Florida gets

1785
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 5: that offense going today, they can really put some pressure

1786
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 5: on A and M.

1787
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 1: But that other game, I just think Auburn has to flex.

1788
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 5: Mississippi State is a really, I would say, nice story,

1789
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 5: really good defensive team. Chris Jian's on a really good

1790
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 5: job with that squad. But they lost four straight games

1791
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 5: to start or to end the regular season before the

1792
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 5: start of the SEC Tournament Kentucky, Auburn, A and M

1793
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 5: South Carolina, and they were giving up a ton of

1794
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 5: points in all of those games. So I think if

1795
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 5: Auburn can get their muscle right, they're a really good

1796
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 5: outside shooting team, and they've got that big man Broom

1797
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 5: in the middle who can just kind of sweep things

1798
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 5: up like that is a really tough cover. They play fast,

1799
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 5: they play really intense with Bruce Pearl, like I think

1800
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 5: Auburn they're in the parlay platter like I think they

1801
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 5: get it done. And I agree Brian, Auburn Florida I

1802
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 5: think would be the most entertaining SEC final. A and

1803
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 5: M and Mississippi State are kind of like rock throwers.

1804
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and yeah, I do love Broom sweeping.

1805
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you like that one for you guys.

1806
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 3: By the way, we started talking about the Big ten.

1807
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 3: One other nugget to throw out there, Chiwan Howard will

1808
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 3: not be back as Michigan's head coach. Yeah, and it's

1809
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 3: been a rough year man, just to put it mildly,

1810
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 3: eight and twenty four this season, and they're gonna finish

1811
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 3: last in the Big Ten for the first time since

1812
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty seven. And the thing that stands out to

1813
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 3: me is we always talk about this not just a

1814
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,919
Speaker 3: college shops thing. It's also a college football thing, recruiting

1815
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: the players on your own team. Oh yeah, And I'm

1816
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 3: not taking a shot at Juwan Howard here, but Hunter

1817
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 3: Dickinson transferring from Michigan to Kansas is mammoth right, Like,

1818
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 3: if he doesn't transfer, Juwan Howard is still employed. And

1819
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 3: that's how much he meant. The guy's averaging eighteen and

1820
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: eight the last two seasons while at Michigan and transferred

1821
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 3: to Kansas. And that's what led directly to the demise

1822
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 3: of Juwan Howard at Michigan. And Michigan's defense has been

1823
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: obscenely bad. Michigan is so bad defensively they make Kentucky

1824
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 3: look like Houston. That's how bad Michigan. They are freaking

1825
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 3: terrible defensively. But Juwan Howard it started off. Well, the

1826
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 3: wheels came off the tracks this season and he's out

1827
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 3: of a gig.

1828
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing how fast these things happen. It was

1829
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: it was literally four years ago, five years ago, twenty

1830
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 4: nineteen when he was highired. Their athletic director had tears

1831
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 4: of joy in his eyes, you know, Ward Manuel was.

1832
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 2: I mean it was.

1833
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 4: It was an incredible moment for Michigan, you know, the

1834
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 4: Wolverine returning home a member of the Fab five, so

1835
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 4: much success. But to your point, Brian, like part of

1836
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 4: this game now is having the humility and having the

1837
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 4: understanding that you have to recruit your own players that

1838
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 4: just because you are who you are doesn't doesn't mean

1839
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 4: that all your players care. And also then il the

1840
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 4: the reason why Nick Tabin steps away from coaching is

1841
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 4: because every player he interacted with after the semi final

1842
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 4: loss to Michigan were concerned about their pocketbooks.

1843
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 2: And I get it.

1844
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 4: Maybe that's not the college football you want to coach,

1845
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 4: or college basketball for that matter, that that a coach

1846
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 4: might want to be involved in, but that's that's where

1847
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 4: these players are at because they have to sing for

1848
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 4: their supper head coaches.

1849
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 2: Somebody he knocking.

1850
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 4: On your door with the contract extension because the schools

1851
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 4: don't want to lose you. Players have to go to

1852
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 4: their athletic department and say, hey, what can you do

1853
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 4: for me to keep me here? And that's the system

1854
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 4: as it's currently set up. So if Kansas or you know,

1855
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 4: another blue blood can lure a player away from your program,

1856
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 4: and that happens enough and it has a deep enough

1857
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 4: impact on your program, you're not going to be a

1858
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 4: coach for very long anymore in this game. And maybe

1859
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 4: that was the case for Juwan Howard, And who knows,

1860
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 4: maybe he's best served coaching at the professional level. I mean,

1861
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 4: sometimes that's a better fit for a guy who had

1862
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 4: as much success at the college level that he had.

1863
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys covered most of it. I'll

1864
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: just say this.

1865
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 5: It's an interesting time for Michigan's athletic program, right, Oh yeah,

1866
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 5: all the scouting and the cheating scandal stuff with Harbaugh

1867
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 5: and he Bolts and now you had a lot of

1868
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, this Michigan basketball program the last three

1869
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 5: year has been like a roller coaster. Remember when he

1870
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 5: got suspended Howard did for punching out that assistant coach

1871
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it just I don't want to say black

1872
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 5: eye because that's the low hanging fruit pun. But it's

1873
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 5: been a really weird couple years for this Michigan athletic program,

1874
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 5: football and basketball. And I know they just won the

1875
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 5: national championship. That's what makes all of this even more crazy.

1876
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 5: On the football side. On the basketball side, they are

1877
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 5: a very long distance away from those John Bline years

1878
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 5: where they had stability and consistency and just win like wins.

1879
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 5: They just won every single year. The program has fallen

1880
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 5: very much farther down than I think anyone in ann

1881
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 5: Arbor really wants.

1882
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can happen quickly. Look at IU. You guys

1883
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: mentioned IU Michigan and IU rough rough seasons. Mike Woodson

1884
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:46,960
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1905
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Speaker 3: You know I'm always fascinated with March Madness right around

1906
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: the corner. Any team in particular that you don't want

1907
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: to win it all based on the futures market? Is

1908
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: there any team that you have circled as far as

1909
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 3: that goes, Christian?

1910
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, there's a there's a couple we have. I'll

1911
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 8: start with, you know, the obvious being Yukon. From from

1912
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 8: the jumps, they've been our we've had liability on them,

1913
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 8: and you know, they've taken steady bets throughout the year.

1914
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 8: There are most bet on teams. Recently we've launched in

1915
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 8: North Carolina. In North Carolina now at this point, has

1916
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 8: become a decent liability, probably our biggest liability of teams

1917
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 8: that have a you know, a realistic chance here. We've

1918
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 8: taken a big influx of bets over the past week

1919
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 8: or so with that launch. And then Kentucky is the

1920
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 8: third team that we have is absolutely do not want

1921
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 8: to win. They are our second most bet on teams.

1922
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're good with Kentucky after that performance.

1923
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 5: And it goes back to what we talked to. No

1924
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 5: team's ever won the national championship after losing the first

1925
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 5: Conmerce tournament game. All Right, I think when we look

1926
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 5: at the big games in action today, Christian, I'm assuming

1927
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 5: you are heavily bet towards Houston, Yukon, Auburn, Purdue. Like

1928
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 5: to me, is there is there a big favorite today

1929
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 5: one of the blue bloods playing today that you're like

1930
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 5: you know what the public actually likes. The other side

1931
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 5: of this one are all the favorites kind of the

1932
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 5: chalky public side today.

1933
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's all the favorites. Especially in the semi

1934
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 8: final games. NC State took a lot more action than

1935
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 8: I would have expected. That's the closest one that we'll

1936
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 8: have where we may be rooting for the dogs or

1937
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 8: we may be rooting for the favorite. But that was

1938
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 8: a little bit closer.

1939
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 7: You know.

1940
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 8: It depends on the price point and the ones that

1941
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 8: get him on the money line, so it'd end up

1942
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 8: where a live billy shakes. But but outside of that, Yeah,

1943
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 8: Purdue and Houston, we're taking super lopsided money on those guys,

1944
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 8: so we'll be rooted for the dogs there.

1945
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 4: When for conference tournament, I know that they're trying to

1946
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 4: glean whatever they can to get ready for their brackets.

1947
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 4: How much can a sportsbook learn during the conference tournament

1948
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 4: or are many of the lines, you know, are the

1949
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 4: future lines already pretty well set in terms of what

1950
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 4: March is going to look like?

1951
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean for us, like a lot of the

1952
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 8: future lines are really set. You know. Sometimes when these

1953
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 8: you know, teams win a tournament that weren't supposed to.

1954
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 8: They end up getting a bid. You know, we got

1955
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 8: price on them at five hundred and one, but they're

1956
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 8: really not a realistic team to really jump in. So

1957
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 8: it all kind of depends on the year. As of

1958
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 8: right now, we haven't really seen that yet. But if

1959
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 8: a team starts making a run in the conference tournament

1960
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 8: and they're you know, at a nice like thirty to one,

1961
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 8: forty to one price, sometimes we'll see a lot of

1962
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 8: bets and then suddenly we'll have liability on them going

1963
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 8: into the tournament. Actually San Diego State probably last year

1964
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 8: was a good example of that where we ended up

1965
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 8: see we end up having liability on them as a

1966
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 8: I mean all the way at the end of course,

1967
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 8: but early in the tournament into when you look.

1968
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 3: At the conference tournament games today, Christian, what would you

1969
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 3: say is bet MGM's biggest need as far as any

1970
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: game today.

1971
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 8: Right now just looking at was Iowa State, but also

1972
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 8: Wisconsin is going to be the other one, at least

1973
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 8: in this early plate. We've been taking nothing but perdue money,

1974
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 8: so we'll be room for Wisconsin.

1975
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 5: I think you just answered my question on which couple

1976
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 5: picks I might be honing in.

1977
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: On right there.

1978
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about the late night games? And I know

1979
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 5: these some of these conference tournament games, especially the Whack

1980
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 5: and you know the Big West. I mean, I'll be honest, Christian,

1981
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 5: this is where I live. And I always tell people

1982
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 5: it's harder for the odds makers to really set these

1983
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 5: lines accordingly because a there's not as many people betting them,

1984
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 5: so you don't have as many market makers that are

1985
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 5: really invested in Long Beach State UC Davis. But also

1986
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 5: you guys just kind of take the numbers and post

1987
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 5: the line. There's not as much context added because you

1988
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 5: can add more contact with the high major games.

1989
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: You watch them a lot, you know, the players.

1990
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 5: In my eyes, should the average recreational better be focusing

1991
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 5: only on these mid major conferences? Is that where the

1992
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 5: best value truly is at this stage of the season.

1993
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're doing your research, that's definitely where you're

1994
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 8: going to get it. If you're you know what, not

1995
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 8: watching these games, not looking anything up and you just

1996
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 8: start betting them, you know, you're not really going to

1997
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 8: have much of an edge. But yeah, that to your point,

1998
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 8: that's correct. These these games at Long Beach State, you

1999
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 8: see Davis, you know Saint Peter's fairfield. There's just not

2000
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 8: as much information on them as they are, you know,

2001
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 8: the bigger teams, and we get way more you know,

2002
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 8: betting information on those where we only take a small

2003
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 8: amount of action these smaller schools, and uh, you know,

2004
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 8: usually we'll respect the money that we get, especially because

2005
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 8: you know, we know that there's edges there and so

2006
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 8: that's why you'll see some big line movements at times

2007
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 8: in these games. You know, not just not today because

2008
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 8: you know we're already at the end here, but uh,

2009
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 8: you know, some of these games can move three four points.

2010
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 4: There's growing interest in sports betting. Obviously, everybody prints a bracket,

2011
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 4: but so many more people with the the applications like

2012
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 4: bet MGM, but many others are getting involved.

2013
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: What would you give like somebody who maybe.

2014
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 4: Has had a bracket in the past, but this is

2015
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 4: their first foray into spending a couple of bucks on

2016
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 4: sides or point totals heading into March?

2017
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Is it?

2018
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 4: Is there any Is there any one piece of advice

2019
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 4: that you would give to somebody who's a novice looking

2020
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 4: to get their feet wet.

2021
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2022
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 8: The thing I always say is just to do your research,

2023
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 8: even if it's just a little bit. You know, look

2024
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 8: into the teams that you're looking at, BET and look

2025
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 8: at what they've played, you know, how they run, what

2026
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 8: their recent games are, and see if you can find

2027
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 8: any sort of edge there, you know, maybe looking at

2028
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 8: a total this team run. You know, this team plays

2029
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 8: fast and they're playing another fast team. You know, I'll

2030
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 8: look look for the over there. Stuff like that is

2031
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 8: usually my best guess. You know, just do your research.

2032
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 3: I love it. Well, Hey, Christian, thank you for helping

2033
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 3: us do our research today. Man, you killed it as always,

2034
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 3: and we'll catch up with you soon. Hope you have

2035
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 3: a good day.

2036
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 8: Hey, you to thank for having me.

2037
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 3: You got it.

2038
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 2: Man.

2039
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: There he is Christian Cippolini, bet MGM trading manager. We

2040
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 3: go from one heavy hitter to the other. We go

2041
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 3: from Cipolini to Cope. Huh, Nick, Cope with the latest?

2042
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 3: What's going on?

2043
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 9: By well, Brian? I think the Brown Bears have heard

2044
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 9: your slander. They're out to a quick start against.

2045
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 3: They're losing record. Come on, Princeton, what are you doing?

2046
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2047
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 9: They got the semi finals of the Ivy League today.

2048
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 9: Fourth seeded Brown up eight on number one Princeton. They

2049
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 9: still got five minutes playing the first half.

2050
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 3: Tigers.

2051
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 9: Of course, that defending IVY League champs made the Sweet

2052
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 9: sixteen last year.

2053
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 3: And oh, here's a three pointer for Brown. It's an

2054
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 3: eleven point dude. Oh, why do I sense you're enjoying

2055
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 3: that after I had my truthful comments about party not

2056
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 3: being a difference. Makes it seems awfully personal with you,

2057
01:44:58,880 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 3: Nick Cok.

2058
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 9: It just gave me them to root for this morning,

2059
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 9: and it just puts something on the line for this

2060
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 9: IVY League semi final game that otherwise eh, probably don't

2061
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 9: care too much about. We do have a bid on

2062
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 9: the line in the America East Championship game. You Mass

2063
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 9: Lowell and Vermont slim lead for the river Hawks on

2064
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 9: the road against the Catamounts great mascots in this one

2065
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 9: a few minutes to play in the first half. Vermont

2066
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 9: bidding for a third straight trip to the Big Dance.

2067
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 9: U Mass loll looking to reach the NCAA tournament for

2068
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 9: the first time since they jumped to D one ten

2069
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 9: years ago. We will have twelve more automatic bids handed

2070
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,640
Speaker 9: out today. You got some of the heavy hitter conferences

2071
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 9: like the Big East Final featuring number two Yukon and

2072
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 9: number ten Marquette. That'll be six thirty Eastern on Fox,

2073
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 9: and the ACC NC State's run continues. The tenth seeded

2074
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 9: wolf Pack. They got a buzzer beater to force overtime

2075
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 9: and then go on to beat Virginia last night. They're

2076
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 9: gonna have a chance to steal a bid tonight against

2077
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 9: number four North Carolina. Oregon is also a potentill bidsteeler

2078
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 9: the Ducks upsetting number six Arizona in the Pac twelve semis.

2079
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 9: I'll match up with Colorado bubble team that very well

2080
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 9: may have already punched its ticket by knocking off number

2081
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 9: twenty two Washington States in the semi finals last night.

2082
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 9: So Bubble team's gonna be looking at Oregon and NC

2083
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 9: State rooting against them. Teams like Saint John's, Virginia, Seaton Hall,

2084
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 9: Providence all gonna be going against then. And then you've

2085
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 9: got the Big twelve final number one Houston and number

2086
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 9: seven Iowa State. In golf, third round of the Players

2087
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 9: Championship underway last year's US Open champ Wyndham Clark. He

2088
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 9: leads at fourteen under, four shots clear of Xander Schaffley

2089
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 9: and Nick Taylor. Leaders set to tee off during the

2090
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,799
Speaker 9: two pm Eastern hour. Guys, back to you.

2091
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 3: Thank you Nick. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to

2092
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 3: tip Off, presented by Bett MGM. You know this applies

2093
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 3: to the sports world, not just football, could be basketball,

2094
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 3: could be any sport here. I just have to bring

2095
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 3: this into the conversation. I am so amused by the

2096
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 3: wrong terminology used by Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys. Hmmm,

2097
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 3: you come back, you go back to the Senior Bowl.

2098
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 3: This is at the end of January, and Jerry Jones

2099
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: said this about what the Cowboys are probably going to

2100
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 3: be doing in the off season. Here you go, check

2101
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 3: this out.

2102
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 6: I would anticipate, with looking ahead at our key contracts.

2103
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 1: That we'd like to address, will be all in.

2104
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 5: I would anticipate will be all in.

2105
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So we're thinking, man, they're gonna splurge.

2106
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 3: This is all systems go, let's sign as many players

2107
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 3: as possible. And then we get the clarification in March

2108
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 3: from Jerry Jones.

2109
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 9: Your definition of what is all in and might not

2110
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 9: be the same thing.

2111
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clearly not because normally all in means you

2112
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 3: push all your chips to the middle of the table

2113
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 3: and you're all in, and that is not the definition

2114
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,600
Speaker 3: that Jerry Jones was going for right there, because the

2115
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,799
Speaker 3: Cowboys clearly are not all in. They've done virtually nothing

2116
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 3: except lose players. They picked up linebacker Eric Kendricks. Yeah,

2117
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: that's it. That's all they've done. And they've lost Tyron Smith,

2118
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 3: they've lost Michael Gallup, they've lost Tony Pollard, They've lost

2119
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 3: they've lost they've let Tyler Biattish. The list goes on

2120
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 3: and on, and so it's just hysterical for me, where

2121
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 3: you're thinking, Okay, let's go Cowboys, and then it's been

2122
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 3: the complete opposite. I don't know why he would put

2123
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 3: that out there like that.

2124
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is Jerry He he speaks first and

2125
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 4: then he acts later, and so a lot of times

2126
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 4: I don't think what he says exactly lines up with

2127
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 4: his actions. I don't think he cares, because, like any

2128
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 4: good marketer, he knows that the headlines are all that

2129
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 4: really matters. And so whether people are going to be

2130
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 4: confused by things he say, or heard by things he says,

2131
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 4: or you know, or or maybe the things that he

2132
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 4: does don't align perfectly with the things he says, well,

2133
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,879
Speaker 4: then he gets to get back on a microphone somewhere

2134
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 4: or get in front of a bunch of writers again

2135
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 4: and then clarify those statements.

2136
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 2: It's just all about the.

2137
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 4: Media circus with this guy, and it has been for

2138
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 4: the past fifty years.

2139
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I always say it's really hard to

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01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 5: win in Dallas, because you not only have to beat

2141
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 5: the team you're facing, but you also have to overcome

2142
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 5: the shadow that is lurking on the sidelines, and that

2143
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 5: is hard for some players to overcome. I don't have

2144
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 5: that perspective, Rich you do. I know mister Kraft probably

2145
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 5: wasn't his hands on as Jerry Jones. Obviously with Jerry

2146
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 5: running the team, it's impossible, but he still is one

2147
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 5: of those owners that his presence has felt right. Maybe again,

2148
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 5: not as much as a Blank or a Craft or

2149
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:55,839
Speaker 5: a Jones, but he's still.

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01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Kind of on the sidelines. I don't know how I

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01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: would react.

2152
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 5: For example, if we were doing this show right now

2153
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 5: and our piles Scott Shapiro and Don Martin were like

2154
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 5: standing right here watching us, I might be a little

2155
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 5: bit different than when I was just doing this, Like

2156
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 5: I might be a little more buttoned up.

2157
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I might not be a little really, Like, it's just

2158
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I think it's.

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01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 5: Hard when your boss is literally standing over your shoulder

2160
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 5: when you are trying to do your job. And that's

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01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 5: why the Cowboys, I think, in the current operational structure

2162
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 5: not built to win a Super Bowl.

2163
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point right there. It's a good visual.

2164
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 3: I don't know how I would be, you'd be different.

2165
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 3: I love Vikings and Broncos on the show. Maybe, I

2166
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 3: don't know. By the way, your Jets though, Jared get

2167
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 3: Tyrone Smith former Cowboys off like Lineman, there are these uh,

2168
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 3: there's these guys called offensive Linemen's kind of important over there. Yeah,

2169
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 3: probably pretty good for Aaron Rodgers to have.

2170
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 4: I would think you need him, especially since the pressure

2171
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 4: came off the left side when he tore that achilles

2172
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 4: Like it really is kind of a.

2173
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 2: Full circle moment.

2174
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 4: If he does run the Jets campaign instead of rfks.

2175
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeh, then then yeah, then then then.

2176
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: They will definitely need to keep him up right.

2177
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be an interesting season in New York

2178
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 4: because that entire team is catered to Aaron Rodgers' success,

2179
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 4: as it should be. He's a future Hall of Famer,

2180
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 4: four time MVP and he's their last and best hope

2181
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 4: to have a playoff run in this window they have

2182
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 4: because they have a pretty they have a pretty good

2183
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 4: team around Aaron. They got to keep that man healthy,

2184
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 4: and they got to keep him engaged and interested in

2185
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 4: playing football. And that's a tall task for a guy

2186
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 4: who's who's you know, discussing like or I guess seriously

2187
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 4: discussing potentially taking a run at the Oval office. So

2188
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 4: interesting offseason ahead in New York.

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01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still have very little faith that they're gonna

2190
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 5: turn this thing around. I I think the reason is

2191
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 5: you can't give us night.

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01:51:55,720 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 1: We don't deserve nice things, Jets fans things. Yeah, and

2193
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm speaking I'm taking.

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01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 5: Off the analyst hat for a minute here. I'm speaking

2195
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 5: to you from the heart as a Jets fan. This

2196
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 5: is what like And I've heard a bunch of promos

2197
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 5: on the network over the last week. You guys have

2198
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 5: everyone who's talked about this stuff with the Kennedy thing,

2199
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 5: You've nailed it. This is what they made their bed.

2200
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 5: Now you have to sleep in it. This is what

2201
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has been for the last decade. Conspiracy theory,

2202
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 5: this Pat McAfee, that get me on the air. I

2203
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 5: want to give you my takes. I want to tell

2204
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 5: you how I feel. I appreciate that level of access

2205
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 5: to a professional athlete. It helps me do my job.

2206
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 5: But what it also does is it gives us a

2207
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 5: glimpse and who he really is. I don't think he

2208
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 5: I think he cares a lot less about winning than

2209
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 5: he did five years ago. And if you're the New

2210
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 5: York Jets and you gave him all this money, he

2211
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 5: should have that franchise.

2212
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 1: Number one priority. It's not the number one priority. It

2213
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: just isn't. And I don't know.

2214
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 5: If it's ever going to be again because at the

2215
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 5: stage that he is with his career.

2216
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this.

2217
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 5: The Jets ain't winning Jack Squat when that guy's on it.

2218
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's not happening.

2219
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 5: It's the distractions, the injuries, this and that. I don't

2220
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 5: see it being successful. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked

2221
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 5: if he doesn't even take a snap for the Jets

2222
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 5: next year.

2223
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: That would not surprise me in the least bit.

2224
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'll say this. We just talked about Jerry

2225
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 3: Jones and the Cowboys and producing headlines and being in

2226
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 3: the limelight that's Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is the player

2227
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 3: version of Jerry Jones, a team owner. That's that's what

2228
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 3: it is. But I also think at the same time,

2229
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 3: we've taken a headline and we have just run with it.

2230
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is not running for vice I agree. Of

2231
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 3: the United States of America. I agree, it's not happening.

2232
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 3: You just have Robert F. Kennedy Junior say, you know,

2233
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm considering Rogers and we're just toom off and running.

2234
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 3: How's he gonna do mini camp and campaign at the

2235
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 3: same time, He's not going to That's how right, Like

2236
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 3: he's not if he's playing football, he's not campaigning for

2237
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 3: the Oval office. I think we've taken a headline and

2238
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 3: we've gone Tasmanian devil and don't need to it's unnecessary.

2239
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's It's probably it would be the

2240
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 4: rarest case to see a current professional football player abandoned

2241
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 4: his career to all of a sudden do this. But

2242
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 4: to the point that Jared was just making this guy.

2243
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 4: He gobbles up headlines, and I think it's possible that

2244
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 4: this is if this is something that he's really passionate about,

2245
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 4: maybe he takes a respite from football to chase this down,

2246
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 4: and the Jets have an even bigger problem on their hands.

2247
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 5: My final point in this one before we go, if

2248
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 5: I was I'm not a politics guy, but if I

2249
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 5: was RFK Junior's advisor, I would tell him to release

2250
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 5: the most audacious names possible for running mates, just so

2251
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 5: people would pay attention to him. Yes, totally, and I

2252
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 5: agree he's not gonna run, but yeah, I'm sure the

2253
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 5: Jets don't like it.

2254
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: Even if he isn't gonna run, it's still a distraction.

2255
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2256
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 3: Hey, shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

2257
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,800
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2258
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2259
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2260
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2261
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2262
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 3: we get off the air. We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn

2263
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 3: State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian

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01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 3: No coming up next, Picks Picks, Picks. We'll each have

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01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 3: three for you. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to

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01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 3: tip Off, presented by bet MGM. It is Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radios Countdown to tip Off, presented by bet MGM. We

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01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 3: got you covered in college hoops for the next four weeks,

2269
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 3: getting you set for March Madness and throughout the entire tournament.

2270
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 3: Props to the crew today, Bo Benson, trusted producer Chris Purfett,

2271
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 3: Tech the cole producer Nick Cope on the updates top

2272
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 3: of the hour, up on game LaVar Arrington, He's got

2273
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 3: you covered. We got some picks to make. Let's do it.

2274
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

2275
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we'll start with you off of three

2276
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 3: and oh weeks. Very nice, see you can keep the

2277
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: momentum going.

2278
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: Let's oh baby, get right right time for March Madness.

2279
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the MAC Final.

2280
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 5: I'm taking Kent State today plus four and a half

2281
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,839
Speaker 5: against Akron. These teams are about even in Torvick's ratings

2282
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 5: over the last month.

2283
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: Kent State. Hey, here you go, Brian.

2284
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 5: They were fifteen and sixteen when the MAC Tournament began.

2285
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 5: If they win, they will be in the NCAA Tournament

2286
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 5: and start as a sub five hundred. So we're gonna

2287
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 5: put that, you know, that qualifier to the test. But

2288
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 5: I haven't liked what I've seen for Acron so far.

2289
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 5: I think it's a tight, low scoring nip and tuck game.

2290
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 5: I'll take four and half points with Kent State. I

2291
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 5: like UT Arlington in the Whack final tonight, the wackety

2292
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 5: whack they're taking on Grand Canyon. I'm getting six and

2293
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 5: a half points in this game. UT Arlington last night

2294
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 5: shooting threes hot to trot. They kept both games close

2295
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 5: against GCU this year. I think they keep this one close.

2296
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 5: I'll take six and a half points. And I talked

2297
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 5: about it earlier. Iowa State plus five and a half

2298
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 5: tonight in the Big twelve final Hilton South. That is

2299
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 5: where Kansas City reigns here. I think it's gonna be

2300
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 5: a tight game, low scoring. I'll take the points. Cyclones

2301
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 5: plus five and a half against Houston. Houston's better, but

2302
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 5: I think I always State keeps it close. So Kent

2303
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 5: State plus four and a half. U t Rington plus

2304
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 5: six and a half. I was State plus five.

2305
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 4: Like it, like it, love it, Okay, I'm gonna go

2306
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 4: to the Big ten first.

2307
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 3: I'll take Wisconsin plus five and a half.

2308
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay. I trust purdueing the dance.

2309
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 4: Actually like them to win today, but I think They'll

2310
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 4: survive a nail bier.

2311
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 3: This is a solid Wisco defense.

2312
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 4: Give me Wisconsin in the points are we head to

2313
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 4: the Big East next Ukon. They're the type of team

2314
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 4: that you take a look at the nine and a

2315
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 4: half points spread and you say I like them. I'd

2316
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 4: like them if they were favored by ten and a half.

2317
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: They can fill up the basket. I think they do

2318
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 4: it again today against Marquette. Husky's cover the nine and

2319
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 4: a half. Going to the Mountain West. San Diego State

2320
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,919
Speaker 4: favored by two and a half over in New Mexico.

2321
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 4: They split with the Lobos this season. They won big

2322
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 4: at home, they lost big on the road. This will

2323
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 4: be a much closer game than either of those two affairs.

2324
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 4: Give me the Techs covering up the two and a

2325
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 4: half their favorite.

2326
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 3: By okay, all right, so I'm gonna give you a

2327
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 3: couple of totals here and then maybe something unprecedented.

2328
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

2329
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna go with Wisconsin and Purdue. Looking at

2330
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 3: the first half under sixty seven and a half, I'm

2331
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 3: not gonna be flying up and down the court there.

2332
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at Iowa State in Houston Tupesky teams

2333
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 3: great defenses. You gotta go counter into it. If every

2334
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 3: now and then give me the over in the first

2335
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 3: half of fifty six and a half, that is obscenely low.

2336
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 3: I think they go over it. I believe for the

2337
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 3: first time why we've been doing countdown over here in game.

2338
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 7: No.

2339
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 3: Wow, give me Princeton plus four and a half.

2340
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 6: I love it.

2341
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 3: I can't Brown in my losing record.

2342
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

2343
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, the tweet we sent out in an hour won't

2344
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 5: be very helpful. But that's okay, that's true. Sorry, Bright,

2345
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 5: I don't care. Find the edge doesn't matter. Go bet

2346
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 5: it right now.

2347
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 3: Brown is twelve and seventeen. Oh, they're gonna gag this lead,

2348
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying.

2349
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 2: Over amazing.

2350
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 3: All right, everybody enjoyed the conference tournament action. We'll be

2351
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 3: back next week with March Madness.