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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are for another edition

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Speaker 1: of mix Shots. And there is so much going on

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco and elsewhere as we are

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Speaker 1: now just over a month away, how about a little

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Speaker 1: over five weeks away, I believe from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and NFL free agency. We're deep into that, and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have added some players, several players to the team

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Speaker 1: since we last spoke last Tuesday. I'm Bill Joe with

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Friscoe. Everson Walls will be joining us shortly. Mickey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing fine, Bill and yourself. It

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Speaker 1: looks like today seem like things back to old times

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Speaker 1: transporting Jerry Jones into the facility, and when I showed up,

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Speaker 1: I could see about a dozen guys on the field,

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Speaker 1: and different type of stuff. So yeah, kind of getting

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Speaker 1: back to old times out here. Yep, that's that right.

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Speaker 1: And we're less than a month away from the start

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Speaker 1: of the official offseason program for the Cowboys, which I

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Speaker 1: think is around April nineteenth or so this year. The

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Speaker 1: other thing that is refreshing to see I'm watching on

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network scenes from the Alabama Pro Day. Reportedly

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is there, And that's my point. It's it's

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Speaker 1: pro days. And you know, Micky, Alabama's got so many

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Speaker 1: NFL prospects that not only have a Pro day to day,

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Speaker 1: The NFL did not have a combine, and they basically

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Speaker 1: So I think I saw the NFL sanctioned one hundred

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Speaker 1: these things as many, if not more than usual, because

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Speaker 1: they got to look at these players and see where

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Speaker 1: other thing that I noticed was taken place bill is

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Speaker 1: Those places they're having their kind of pro days, but

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Speaker 1: the NFL is not allowing NFL personnel to attend those,

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Speaker 1: so they'll have to put those results out for everybody

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Speaker 1: to see. So a lot of things changing getting ready

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Speaker 1: And they were over as usual, over three hundred Combine

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge me. Thank you very much. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: We had to wait to see going on. We had

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Speaker 1: about you have horrible CP time, when you wake up

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Speaker 1: I understand today and tomorrow is a couple of safeties

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Speaker 1: they still even though they agreed to terms or got

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Speaker 1: That's why they're available. And that's why they all signed

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Speaker 1: and hope. Right, it's not like they're signing these guys

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Speaker 1: That's all they can afford, are you man? Okay? Why

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Speaker 1: for me, spacts, that's down the drain for me, SPACs.

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Speaker 1: it's just like the same thing we've been going on

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Speaker 1: over and over again. We are signing, all right, hoping, hoping.

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Speaker 1: What would you suggest because one of these I was

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Speaker 1: preclude them from drafting of safety, all right, none of them.

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Speaker 1: The financial well, that's why they've got one signed and

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Speaker 1: once again, that's just the lesser of the evils for me, Spags. Still,

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Speaker 1: just get in there and represent just a little bit.

426
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Speaker 1: Even Appoline Christian, right, well, Trappoline Christian, my nephew went

427
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: to Appoline Christian, so he was. He was bragging over

428
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: my brother who was a who went to ut so

429
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: he had he had debs over his uncle for this

430
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: just this weekend, the Long Deep. And I'll tell you

431
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: one last thing on that bill, when you talked about

432
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: my saving grace, the only hope I had is that

433
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: my sleeper to make into the championship game gets to

434
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: the championship game, right, And in the second round, in

435
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: the second half, with about I don't know, eight minutes

436
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: to go, Houston's down by fifteen points, and I'm going, okay,

437
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: this is over with. And they ended up coming back

438
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: and winning by two. I think it was okay, there

439
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, they survived and advanced. I tried. And

440
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: by the way way I've we had already made the

441
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: decision on my WiFi that since since my provider and

442
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: I will not say their name, does not provide broadcast

443
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: of Mavericks games, Stars games or Rangers games, we were

444
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: going to switch anyway. And now it's sealed since my

445
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: WiFi keeps going out on this thing. So um so

446
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: that's that's about to be corrected. So they will find

447
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: out sooner or later, won't they? All right, So Mickey yes,

448
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: what about the rest of the free agent hall? So far,

449
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: we've talked about the safeties or the lack of safeties.

450
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of what sticks

451
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: out for you what the Cowboys have done so far,

452
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: whether it's comings or goings. At the start, Well, the

453
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: going that kind of stuck out for me is the

454
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: fact that you know, we knew this was probably going

455
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: to happen, but you kind of hope that, well maybe

456
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: it wouldn't, that you can hang in there and you know,

457
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and somebody will just pass him by losing Andy Dalton

458
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: the way they lost to the It's just like Chicago. Yeah,

459
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: and you just knew somebody was going to give him

460
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: a deal one year to make ten million dollars with

461
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make three million more in incentives, and

462
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: you just hope somebody didn't look at them as a

463
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, which they should have by the way, for

464
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: teams that need a quarterback or a quarterback to be

465
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: a bridge to maybe somebody you picked in the first

466
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: round under the draft this year. So that leaves the

467
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys somewhat in a lurch at the backup quarterback spot

468
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: because the way I looked at it, Andy Dalton was

469
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: probably the best backup quarterback the Cowboys had since Steve Burlin.

470
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you got somebody else you want to, you know,

471
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: tell me that you know was better with more experience

472
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: than him, because even when Tony Romo took over, you know,

473
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: he he had played what uh no games before he

474
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: took over, uh in that two thousand and sixth season.

475
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: So at least you had a veteran guy. I don't

476
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: think that they're unless somebody falls in their lap for

477
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: another kind of prove it deal like Andy Dalton was

478
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: looking for. Do you feel good about you know, Garrett Gilbert,

479
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Ben Denucci, Cooper Rush, because that's where you're at right now, right, Yeah,

480
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: you're that's it? What were you? What do you? What

481
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: do you guys think about? You know, reading kind of stuff.

482
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: This is probably mixed bags, man, But I just remember

483
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: when you say this stuff. Just remember when you say

484
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: this stuff, there's a salary cap. Okay, don't forget there

485
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: is a salary cap, just like Bill has a salary

486
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: cap at his household. Internet Okay, all right, WiFi? Right? No,

487
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: just really almost what we don't have a whole bunch

488
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: of money out there obviously to be signed his sentimental signings.

489
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: But you know, Alex Smith was brought up as far

490
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: as a guy that could be an inspirational backup for

491
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. He's got the experience, been through a lot.

492
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how the leg is doing after last year,

493
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: but you know he was inspirational. I have to say,

494
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: never was a big fan of his until I saw

495
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: what he went through and coming out on the other side.

496
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what a signing for him would take.

497
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: But what do you think about that inspirational signing spast again?

498
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: What's he looking for? You know? How much? How much

499
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: do you have to pay him to convince him to

500
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: put himself back out there? Uh? Yeah, from an exterienced

501
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: standpoint to bring in a bus driver who doesn't probably

502
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: need a whole heck of a lot of practice. Yeah,

503
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of million dollars, I can afford that,

504
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: But I really can't afford that much. When you look

505
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys cap right now and what they have left,

506
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's anywhere between ten and twelve million dollars,

507
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: and their rookie pool for ten draft choices is ten

508
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: million dollars. So number one, they won't use all ten

509
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: of those draft choices, they'll be trading around if they

510
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: need to move up. But number two, if that's all

511
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: you got left, you're gonna have to restructure a couple

512
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: more contracts just to do business for the coming year.

513
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: So again it comes down to can I get a

514
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: sweetheart deal for not much? Right? You bring in a guy?

515
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: So then, and Bill brought it up last week. You

516
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: know you're looking at guys like Chase is Daniel You

517
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: a career backup, right, who you know not bad coming

518
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: in for a game or finishing a game or starting

519
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: a game. But if you need somebody to start three

520
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: or four games in a row, I don't know that

521
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: guy's out there for the day. What now you're looking

522
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: at him? That's a that's a Missou guy, right, was

523
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: chasing MISSU? Sure is? And there's another one available two

524
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: player in Missouri football history, right Mickey, Yes, absolutely, And

525
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Blayton Gabbert's out there also, going to retire his number there. Yeah,

526
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: he's also from the Big twelve, So I know Bill's

527
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna show him some love if he comes here. So

528
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: Daddy's from Daddy's from South Lakes, I'm saying, Edison, Mickey

529
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: and I let me tell you the Chase Daniels story.

530
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: Mickey in the early days of the Cowboys Channel back

531
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, this

532
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: is before the NFL network came along, the Cowboys put

533
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: together it was with Comcast Cable. They put together a

534
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys channel. I was working for. Mickey obviously was as well.

535
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: And we actually did a high school football game from

536
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Texas Stadium. It was a state playoff game. It was

537
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: South Lake Carol against Denton Ryan and so. And that

538
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: was Chase Daniel's senior year at South Lake Carol. This

539
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: was would have been two thousand and four, and so

540
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: Mickey was he was the analyst on the broadcast. Well,

541
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: he goes down on the field before the game because

542
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: this quarterback for South Lake, Chase Daniel had committed to

543
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Missouri and so, but he had heard how short he was.

544
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: And so Mickey went down on the field because he

545
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: wanted to stand up next to him and see just

546
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: how short Chase Daniel really is and the Mickey you

547
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: can take it from there. And he was short, by

548
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: the way. How short, Well, I didn't have to look

549
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: up very far to see him eye to eye. Okay,

550
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: and he goes and he goes to Missouri and was

551
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: probably one of the best quarterbacks in the history of

552
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Missouri football. And uh, I enjoyed watching the last good

553
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: He wasn't Mackey, Yes, he wasn't. Probably one of the

554
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in Missouri history. He was the best quarterback

555
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: you don't remember the seventies. Probably he's better than Phil Bradley. Uh,

556
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: that's that's that is debate. Wait a minute there, Wait

557
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: a minute, then, William, Wait a minute there, I remember Bradley. Bradley,

558
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: Bradley was best. He didn't do what Chase Daniel did

559
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: in Missouri. Well, from from a winning standpoint, no, he

560
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: did not. What do you base it on? He was

561
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: awfully good and he said all the records at that

562
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: at that time in that area tonge Bill, the tone Bill.

563
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: All right, but get off, all right, get off Chase

564
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Daniel to the Cowboys, though, because Chase Daniel likely is

565
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: going to the Chargers where Joe Lombardi is the offensive

566
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: coordinator and Lombardi was the was the offensive coordinator quarterbacks

567
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: coach with the Saints and when Daniel was there, and

568
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: so Daniel is going to go be justin Herbert's back

569
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: up with the Chargers. That's my prediction all right here

570
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: is let me throw a name out here as a

571
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: veteran guy who's kind of of the same ilk as

572
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel. That is a J. McCarron who is a

573
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: free agent AJ McCarron who has not started very many

574
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: games in the league whatever, but he did did get

575
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: a chance as Andy Dalton's back up with the Bengals,

576
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: but most recently he has been with the Texans. Uh.

577
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: And the connection, of course with the Cowboys is Doug

578
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: nuss Meyer, the Cowboys quarterbacks coach, who was the quarterbacks

579
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: coach and offensive coordinata at Alabama for two years when

580
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron was there. If you're connecting the dots of

581
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the free agent quarterbacks out there, there's

582
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: a connection right there, AJ McCarron. Now, McCarron, I believe

583
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: made four million dollars last year, is still Shaan Watson's

584
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: backup in Houston. The Cowboys are not going to pay

585
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: four million dollars for the backup quarterback spot here. But

586
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: if McCarron is, he's testing the market right now. If

587
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: vcs okay, I'll take whatever the Cowboys offer an incentive

588
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: laden deal whereas and they can do that and it's

589
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: not going to affect their salary cap. He would be

590
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: a guy that I would throw out as a possibility

591
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: as being a veteran guy. What do you think of

592
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: a J. McCarron that is, that is, if Houston doesn't

593
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: say boy in the situation we're in, we may need

594
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: the same they got Tyro that they signed Tyrod Taylor,

595
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: and so if they're the next starter, Houston, depending on

596
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: what happens with Watson is Tyrod Taylor. And that's a

597
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: good that's a good point, Bill on AJ McCarron. And

598
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: that's you know, and that's kind of you know, you

599
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: bring him in here, let him compete with Gilbert Denucie

600
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: can still be the third guy. He didn't get an

601
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: offseason last year. But that's what you're gonna have to

602
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: settle for, sort of like the safety position, that's what

603
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: you have to settle for because you just don't have

604
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money in for adency to go sign

605
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: somebody to a big deal. You know, and I'll be

606
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: very interested to see, you know, the defensive and Terrell

607
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Basham that they've agreed to a deal with and it

608
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: keeps getting publicized as two years, six point five million,

609
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: but we have not seen the inside numbers yet. So

610
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: like the deal for Neil was, you know everybody was

611
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: one year, five million dollars right, Well, when you look

612
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: at how they structured it, it's basically the first year's

613
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: cap hit is two million dollars. They gave him a

614
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: three million dollars signing bonus with three two more years avoidable.

615
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: So from a cap hit, he's basically two million against

616
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: the cap this year with a one million dollars based salary.

617
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: So I'd be interested to see what Basham's deal is.

618
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: It's basically going to be a one year deal four

619
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: million dollars, and we'll see how they had instructured. So

620
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Speaker 1: if you see what the Cowboys are doing, they're nibbling

621
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: because that's what they have available against the salary cap.

622
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: And they still have to restructure a couple more contracts

623
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: going forward to create enough money for the rest of

624
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: the year. But if, yeah, if you can get mccaren

625
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: for one year two million, three million with incentives, that

626
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: would be a great deal. That's what they have to

627
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: settle for all right. As far as the other signings.

628
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Speaker 1: Are you mentioned Basham and as as an edge rusher.

629
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Speaker 1: Brent Urban is another one defensive lineman who was most

630
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: recently with Chicago prior to that in Baltimore. And and

631
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: then Carlos Watkins who is with the Texans, an inside

632
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: defensive gay. Yeah. And if you look at Brent Urban,

633
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of the kind of gadget guy inside. Uh.

634
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: He's six seven, two ninety five, did play defensive tackle,

635
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: probably could play on the edge. I think he replaces

636
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford. I think I think Crawford is close to saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think this probably enough. But they signed

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Speaker 1: you just wasted five hundred million, but the base salary

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Carlos Watson Watkins. UH one year, one

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Speaker 1: point seven five million. His signing bonus was four hundred

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Speaker 1: again you're gambling four hundred thousand. Basically that see, well

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Speaker 1: maybe this guy can make it right, maybe he can

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Speaker 1: help us out. So those are the kind of deals

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Speaker 1: what about this? What about this Brent Urban guy? What

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Speaker 1: much at all. He kept playing these last couple of

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Speaker 1: And that's why the Twitter feed is all filled up

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Speaker 1: for details. All right, very good, Mickey just keep keeps

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Speaker 1: getting better and better with his Thank Everson, you think so.

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Speaker 1: Just give me a couple more years, seems to be.

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Speaker 1: I'll have it down in a couple of years, all right.

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Speaker 1: I asked the question before the break about what can

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Speaker 1: get Everson and the rest of Cowboys Nation excited about

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Speaker 1: this Dallas defense. Let me say this though, before we

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Speaker 1: get into that about Keyan O'Neil and Mickey, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, how do you think in contrast to the

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Speaker 1: other safeties Kazee and Hooker that the Cowboys had brought

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Speaker 1: in with their achilles injuries just last season. Well, one

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Speaker 1: thing about Keyan O'Neil is that he has come back

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Speaker 1: and played an entire season after both his acl and

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Speaker 1: his achilles. Last year he had a hundred tackles for

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Speaker 1: atlant he had nine tackles for loss, and so he

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Speaker 1: has done something since his major injuries. The thing that

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Speaker 1: intrigues me about Keyan O'Neil not only is the fact

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Speaker 1: that that prior to his injuries his athleticism. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he first round draft pick and was productive his first

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Speaker 1: two years in the league. In fact, he made the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in twenty seventeen when Atlanta went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So he's done that and he's got a

743
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Speaker 1: year under his belt getting over those injuries. But what

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00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: intrigues me the most about him, Mickey, is the possibility

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys using him as a nickel linebacker. What

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Speaker 1: do you what do you think about that? What have

747
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Speaker 1: you heard about how the Cowboys might use Keyan O'Neil

748
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: in this defense? Well, yeah, and he's a box safety,

749
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Speaker 1: and you're right, he had a pretty darn good season

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Speaker 1: this past year. He's like, he's like a poor man's

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. Right, He's that type of safety. He's close

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Speaker 1: to the line. You don't want him in coverage. Probably.

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Speaker 1: He started fourteen or fifteen games after coming back from

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Speaker 1: a ruptured achilles, had a hundred tackles. Not a big

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00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: guy for interceptions, he had one. But the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I thought stood out to him. And you know,

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Speaker 1: he was a former first rounder, seventeenth pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and in his rookie season in the Super Bowl he

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Speaker 1: ended up with thirteen tackles, nine solo against New England. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: it was that defense that fell apart the second half,

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Speaker 1: but at least he did something. And you're right, as

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Speaker 1: he's big enough to be able to play the nickel

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Speaker 1: linebacker spot, and that was one of the problems the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys had. Jalen Smith should not have been out there

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Speaker 1: on that nickel as the week side linebacker when they

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Speaker 1: went to two linebackers. He struggles in coverage or just

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Speaker 1: struggled period. Right, So it'll be interested to see if

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Speaker 1: if he is the type of guy that can do that.

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Speaker 1: But he's not that big. Um. I think he's like

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Speaker 1: two twenty five if if if I'm correct, he's actually

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's listed more like two twenty two sixteens. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but that is that is what's happening in

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Speaker 1: this league with all the three receiver four receiver sets

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Speaker 1: and you're in nickel and dimes so much that to

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Speaker 1: have someone who can tackle who I mean, he's not

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Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor, but he plays a lot like Cam Chancellor,

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Speaker 1: you know. Uh. And as far as being able to

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Speaker 1: to as a nickel linebacker alongside Vanderish, my question on

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Speaker 1: it is what we have seen in the last throughout

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's career here is there has not been a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator willing to take Jalen Smith off the field

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Speaker 1: and or find a role for Jalen Smith and a nickel.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna put Kean in Neil and Layton Vanderish

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Speaker 1: as your two nickel linebackers, what do you do with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith? Is my question? Yeah, And I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: you know. And we're talking about a guy that led

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Speaker 1: the team and tackles the past two years, right, And

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Speaker 1: I know everybody doesn't like his antics on the field,

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Speaker 1: this and that, but you got to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to play him. I'm not sure he's a weak side linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I thought he did better in the middle, and Vanderesh

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Speaker 1: was probably better on the outside if he stays healthy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they tried to make that switch last year

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Speaker 1: without an off season. It didn't work out so well.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see. But I think a

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Speaker 1: box safety, you know, that's pretty good. I just I

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Speaker 1: just don't want to see that nickel defense out there

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Speaker 1: against teams with two line two fullbacks on the field.

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Speaker 1: And I will leave it at that. Okay, Now, as

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Speaker 1: to get excited, I'm taking that Everson didn't get excited

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Speaker 1: over the Cowboys resigning Jordan Lewis their nickel cornerback. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's my thing. If you're gonna use Jordan Lewis the

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Speaker 1: way we use him last year, I am not in

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Speaker 1: favor of that. Bill brought it up in regards to

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Speaker 1: the nickel defense. You just brought it up in in

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Speaker 1: regards to the nickel defense on first down versus two

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Speaker 1: tight ends or even one tight end and a fullback

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Speaker 1: and a dominuative and a fullback, you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: dominutive guy out there doing the best he can. Now,

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you on one thing. I didn't like

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Speaker 1: him against the run, but spags I did like him

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Speaker 1: against the past. He did decent in the slot. He's

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Speaker 1: only the only guy we have that can come to

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Speaker 1: that slot guy. You're not bringing in Kean O'Neil to

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Speaker 1: be Jordan Lewis on pass in nickel. You bring him

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Speaker 1: in just in case they want you continue to be

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Speaker 1: this stubborn team that wants to play nickel against two

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Speaker 1: tight ends or tighten the fullback. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to do that, and I don't know if Quinn

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Speaker 1: is a fan of that, then Keyan O'Neil would be

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Speaker 1: the guy that would be a better fit against the

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Speaker 1: two tight ends up one tight end and fullback. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do get that. In regards to Jaylen Smith, maybe

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Speaker 1: having Keanu out there, if he's able to do all

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Speaker 1: the things be wanting to do, and he plays us

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Speaker 1: as as strong and plays at box safety like he

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Speaker 1: did last year, then that might be a good thing

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Speaker 1: for Jaylen because now he doesn't have to feel like

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Speaker 1: he has to overcompensate for a guy out there who's

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Speaker 1: five ten, one hundred and seventy five pounds. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: it will give Jaylen an opportunity or whoever that linebacker is,

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Speaker 1: to have more of a straight line path to helping

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Speaker 1: stop the run, to maybe even making an I pat

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, because now you've got

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Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neil having a nice anchor out there against the

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Speaker 1: two tight end and one tight in fullback situation. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully bringing in Keyanu, I don't have to be a

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Speaker 1: fan for it, but I give it love if it works.

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Speaker 1: If you bring in Keyanu to help anchor on that

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Speaker 1: nickel defense, maybe Jayalen Smith can have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be more of a straight line player, because when it

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Speaker 1: comes to movement outside, he keeps getting cut off, and

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00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: that's what I don't like. He keeps getting cut off

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Speaker 1: by offensive lineman and therefore they carve down the pursuit.

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Speaker 1: If Keyan O'Neil can come in and anchor that better,

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Speaker 1: then we might be looking at a totally different thing.

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Speaker 1: If they continue to want to use nickel defense on

848
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: first down, which I'm still not in favor of. Okay, Bill,

849
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: so well, what wouldn't get you excited? Well, one more

850
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: thing on Jalen Smith. I would like to see a

851
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: coach come in here and just see if Jalen Smith

852
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: can do anything as an edge rusher. I mean, we

853
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: thought we've seen him being used rushing the passer, but

854
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: they were lining him up like in the middle, and

855
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, without him being able to use any edge

856
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: rushing ability that he might have. I don't know what

857
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: kind of edge, but to your point, ever, since he's

858
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: more of a straight line defender than he is playing

859
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: in space, and so I would like to see him if, if, if,

860
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: if their plan is to have Neil and banderashes your

861
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: two nickel linebackers, is the plan, then have Jalen as

862
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. I'd like to see him at least

863
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: experiment with that and see but not as an inside

864
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: rusher like what they were using under Marinelli. The only downside,

865
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: the only downside on that, Bill, is who you taken

866
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: off the field to make him an edge rusher. To

867
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence Brandy Gregory, I ain't in favor of either

868
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: of that. No, that's right. Yeah. And when we go

869
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: back to the original question of what really excites me?

870
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: Have we signed all the Smith yet? No, they have not.

871
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: Are we going to sign him? Are we thinking of

872
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: signing him? That's does he want to resign? You know

873
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: you have to ask that question too, looking for? You know,

874
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: how much is he looking for? I always said, and

875
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: you and I agreed on this bags that moving all

876
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: the Smith up and down the line and not having

877
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: him in one place and being so isolated, that really

878
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: did help not just his stats, but it helped the

879
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: cowboy's defense, and that's what's most important. When he's being

880
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: moved around. They got a little bit confused on the

881
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: other side of the ball in regards to how to

882
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: block him. And it was somewhat effective in regards to

883
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: how we played against the run. And I know we

884
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: didn't play well against the run much at all, but

885
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: when the eat, when Alda Smith was moving up and

886
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: down the line, it gave them off this problems. Keep

887
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: in mind that probably Alden Smith's biggest advocate in that

888
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: room as the personnel decisions, is probably his biggest advocate

889
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff was Jim tom Sula, who had

890
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: him in San Francisco and Jim tom Seula is not

891
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: here anymore. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was

892
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: the case. So we'll see what happens with him. All right,

893
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: Alabama Pro Day going on today. You talk about what

894
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: might excite me as far as they got to do

895
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: something at cornerback obviously, and I think all signs are

896
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: pointing right now to them. Really, I would say if

897
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: I put a percentage on it, Patrick Certan, the Alabama

898
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: cornerback is I would put it at seventy five to

899
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: eighty percent chance that the Cowboys are drafting him at

900
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: number ten. Mike McCarthy's there today. I mean, just reading

901
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: the tea leaves on it right now here, over a

902
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: month away from the draft. I wouldn't be at all

903
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: surprised if curtains their pick. What would you think of that,

904
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: mister cornerback over there with I do not mind having

905
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: a Alabama bookends it regards to the cornerback position. But

906
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: these guys, as we could tell with Trayvon last year,

907
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to be that Alabama guy when you don't

908
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: have that Alabama front four. Okay, and that Spags pointed

909
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: out if we could just get some pressure, it will

910
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: make a big difference. But I want to see how

911
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: players are gonna play without that pressure. Can can he

912
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: come in and do well in that regard. We didn't

913
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: see that from from Trayvon last year. When we did

914
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: and they have pressure, he didn't play well. So you

915
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: have to be able to adapt, you know, to that

916
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: little adversity that you're gonna have to deal with. You're

917
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to squat down on the routes

918
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: like you did in Alabama. You don't have the defensive

919
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: lineman and we had Alabama. They don't have to. We

920
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: don't make the impact from the front floor like they

921
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: did at Alabama. So you better be ready to adapt

922
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: to the situation and make sure that your game is

923
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: conducive to being able to play defense and being able

924
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: to play one on one. For a long time, when

925
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: I was with the Cowboys, as much as we had

926
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: doomsday defense and we had Ed and Randy and John

927
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Dutton and Harvey Martin, when you have the flex defense call,

928
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: they ain't going nowhere. I had to play defense back

929
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: there for like six seconds because my defensive lineman, We're

930
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: being handcuffed by the system itself. When you let them go,

931
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: we're bawling. But when they're not, we have to be

932
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: back there and played discipline, man to man defense. And

933
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: that is tough to do for four or five six

934
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: seconds in in the NFL. So whoever they'd better bring,

935
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: whoever they bring in, they'd better be ready to have

936
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: the track shoes on and not get frustrated giving them

937
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: up deep inside plays throughout the entire season. So Bill

938
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Curtain is yes, go ahead. No, I was gonna say

939
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: go ahead on certain, and I got one more thing

940
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: to say about it before we go. Well. The other

941
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: thing on certain is, uh, he's not running today. Uh.

942
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: He measured six two, two hundred eight pounds, So there's

943
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: a big corner. Yeah. Nice. Uh. The other thing that

944
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: I like about bigger than his father, right exactly. And

945
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: of course his father played very well in the NFL

946
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: at a very high level. And uh certain he has

947
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: been groomed to be an NFL cornerback since he first

948
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: was tossed a football by his daddy when he was

949
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: two years old. I mean, he came to Alabama and

950
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: he started immediately. He was you know, Trayvon was a

951
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: receiver like his brother Stephan and converted to cornerback. He

952
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: may have more upside from an athletic standpoint in his

953
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: NFL career as far as being a playmakers. Talking about Trayvon,

954
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: but Curtin was the better cornerback when they played at

955
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Alabama because of what all those things you're talking about,

956
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: his discipline, his training as a cornerback and so far.

957
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like he didn't have the

958
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: playmaking skills probably or on his resume as what Antoine

959
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Winfield junior head at University of Minnesota, but he was like,

960
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: like Curtain Winfield was trained out of the womb to

961
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: be an NFL defensive back, and he showed it his

962
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: first year in the league. And so that would excite

963
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: me about certain all right, Mickey, close it out, And

964
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: here's would probably not excite the fan base. When I

965
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: saw Bucky Brooks's mock draft, the second one at number

966
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: ten after four cornerback quarter after four quarterbacks were taken

967
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: in the top nine, two offensive lineman and two wide

968
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: receivers and one corner which was Fireley, who, by the way,

969
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: is getting ready to have micro dissectomy surgery for a

970
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: ruptured disc in his back. And he's probably out until May. Yeah,

971
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: he's not going at number ten. A number ten, Bucky

972
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: Brooks gave the Cowboys offensive lineman Vera Tucker from Southern

973
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: cal who I think he played a combination of guard

974
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: and tackle with Sir Tan still on the board. And

975
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: also Micah Parsons, who he labeled as the best defensive

976
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: player in the draft, a linebacker from Penn State who

977
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't play last year. By the way, So, uh, I

978
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: keep seeing this offensive line thing, and I just can't

979
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: seem that they can qualify taking an offensive lineman. If

980
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: you think that Tyrn Smith and Lele Collins are ready

981
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: to go, yeah, well you think, and they should know

982
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: and by time April twenty ninth shows up, they should

983
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: know what sort of situation they're in. And both of

984
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: those guys are out here running right now and don't

985
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: seem to be limited. Okay, don't seem to be limited.

986
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: But they've got the they've got the medical records, and

987
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: we don't have the medical record, right, And that's why

988
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So if they if they do that, then

989
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: we'll know that they have reservations about one or both. Right,

990
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 1: But if it's true, But if they think those guys

991
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: are ready to go. That guy's gonna come in here

992
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: and to me, I get and I'll say it till

993
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: him blew in the face. If they have another injury

994
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: at offensive tackle, Zach Martin immediately moves out there. He's

995
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: my tackle, and I'll take care of the guard position,

996
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: not wait like they did last year and let that

997
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: position ruin an offense. So but if if they have

998
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: an injury at offensive tackle and they've drafted a guy

999
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: with a tenth pick who's an offensive tackle, who's your

1000
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: offensive tackle that goes in there, well, he better be

1001
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: ready if I take him in the first round, right,

1002
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: that exactly, And so that's where they got to do

1003
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: their due diligence on that tackle exactly where Okay, he's

1004
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: he's the guy now, because if they don't get hurt, Martin,

1005
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 1: if they don't get hurt, that guy is he gonna

1006
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: is he gonna challenge to be a starting guard. You know,

1007
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: at some point you can't have forced first rounders on

1008
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You've got to spread it around. And

1009
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: I can qualify a linebacker because after the two linebackers

1010
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: they have, who's the next guy up? That's what I thought, well, right,

1011
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: Silence but you can also qualify Mickey. You can also

1012
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: qualify an offensive lineman. Because I told you who the

1013
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: next guy they lose one on. The next guy up

1014
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: is Zack Martin. He'd better be working again. He better

1015
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: be working for his fans right now. Connor mcgovernn, you know,

1016
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: came on as a guard when he took Zach's place,

1017
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: when he moved out to tackle. Well, here's here's the

1018
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: other thing, and we're out of time, but or way

1019
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: past time. The other thing on these draft picks, it's

1020
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: not solely about this year. It's the next five years.

1021
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: And so where are you at with Tyrn Smith next year,

1022
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: the year after, the year after two, and where are

1023
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: you but at the same point a linebacker? Where are

1024
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: you at linebacker? Yeah, zact same thing, cornerback, the same thing.

1025
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: So it gets back to take the best player exactly

1026
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: the position that you can use him exactly. And that's

1027
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: always been the Cowboys of philosophy really for a long time,

1028
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: even back to Joe Brant, and if he can the

1029
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: best athlete possible, and if it's an offensive lineman that

1030
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: they better trade back. This is the tenth pick in

1031
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: the draft. Ye I gotta have Smith I gotta I

1032
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: gotta have DeMarcus Ware right, he was a left Well,

1033
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: you gotta have tyringth if that tackle is the tenth

1034
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, right, it's gotta be Tyring Smith.

1035
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want a guy to play guard that

1036
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: can play tackle, Okay, I want to tackle that can

1037
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: play guard just like a guard. It's a sixteenth pick

1038
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: in the draft, he better be Zach Martin right In

1039
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: that too, it was a center. Who's the thirty first

1040
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. He better be draft that they

1041
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: that they traded back to get him at thirty one down. Yeah,

1042
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: that's true. We got the receivers Cherns Williams, who's well,

1043
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: never mind any great that we figured all this out,

1044
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: but we needed seven extra minutes. I see, all right?

1045
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: Does it for Mick Shots? Wow? These offseason mix shots

1046
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: we can go two hours. Good job, guys, the good job,

1047
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: all right, good job, all right. We'll talk at you

1048
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: again next Tuesday on Mick Shots. See you guys, Gold Cowboys, Yes, sir.

1049
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,560
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1050
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,840
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