WEBVTT - Part Two: The Bastard Who Invented Homeopathy 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:05.360 What's testing my fringe medical beliefs. I REMEMBERT Evans hosted 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.440 Behind the Bastard's Back with Billy Wayne Davis for part 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:12.560 two of our homeopathy episode and Providence. I think God 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.360 himself has presented us Billy Wayne with an opportunity here. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.080 I think that's what that's how mad, that's how medicine work, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.319 super Producers. Sophie has an earache that that is that 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.840 is rather painful at the moment. She's not sure why, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.320 and traditional meal is not dealt with it. It hurts. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.360 It hurts what kind of pain? It's like throbbing, like 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:37.040 actual pain, like the inside of the ear. Did you 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.920 stick anything in there? I mean I just put no, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.639 you can rupture your ear drum. I don't think it's 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.800 that it doesn't feel like that because I can still here. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.080 Would I not be able to hear? I don't know 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.000 if that's how it works. What I do know is 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.640 that it's time to test Machettison out. Now. I'm with this. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.600 We have to do this as a double blind study, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.560 which means, Sophie, you're going to close your eye, We're 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.240 gonna hand to make you blind twice. We're gonna we're 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.720 gonna hand you both a machete and another kind of 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.479 non machete knife, and you have to hit something with both, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.800 and then you tell us which one you feel better after, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.640 and that will be a real medical study, that will 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.679 that will forever prove the validity of machetes you used 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.200 to make sure Anderson doesn't get harmed. Anderson, Anderson, your 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.880 mom's blind and wielding machette. Come over here, Come on, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.399 your mom's blind and wielding machete. Good, Anderson, get over here. No, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.920 don't be right under her with the machete that's protecting me. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.360 She's a body. Okay, Sorry, you gotta close your eyes. Okay, okay, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.800 she's under the table. Close your eyes. Okay. We're giving 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.000 you a random bladed object, may or may not be 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.840 a machete. No way to know. It's definitely my eyes. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.400 I can tell by the weight I'm gonna. I'm gonna 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.560 guide your hand down towards the object of the copy 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.320 of basic instinct that you're gonna hit, just so you 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.880 know where it is. Now, rear up and and hit 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.240 it real hard. Anderson's okay, Yeah, Anderson's fine, Okay, all right, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.920 that's the first one. That's the first one. Now let's 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:13.360 scientifically note. Do you feel any different in your ears? 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.640 M okay, now close your eyes, close your eyes, giving 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.440 you another random bladed object. No, I didn't know what 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.520 it is. Now I'm gonna guide your head down, hand 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.920 down again to the copy of basic Basic in stink. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.640 I want to scoot back just a little bit so 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.919 you can get more strength. You still sayers, Now again, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.040 rear up with all your might and just whack it. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:35.560 Whack it real good. Holy shit, that felt good to watch, now, Sophie, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.760 you don't know in either case what you were holding. Yeah, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:45.680 it's powerful. Do you does your ear feel better? We 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.799 have a sport to play after this, don't up our ball. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.440 How's your ear feeling? It still hurts, but my ego sorry, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.880 it still hurts, but my but my ego feels great, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:04.440 which is an important part emotionally powerful. It's good yogurt? Right, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:10.440 Do you feel confident? Yeah? Okay, that was a funny 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:15.320 way to answer that question, like, yeah, my dog wasn't harmed, 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:22.680 so that's always good. Um, which felt better the big one? Yeah? 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.480 M hm? So what if you knew how to use 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.960 the little ones better? I mean, that would just be 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:38.040 a completely different studies. I'm doing a shitty metaphor there. Well, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.680 we would have to do some research. Really, I'm not 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:46.160 a scientist, nor am I a doctor, but I think 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.920 this scientifically proves that Michettison is a valid branch of 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:54.160 medical science. Yep, she's still here. Yep, you're not dead, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.560 and I think your ear is gonna heal as a 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.880 result of this. If you do get better, it's because 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.840 of the machete or the dagger. We don't know, because 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.320 this was not in the actuality a double blind study, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.440 but it might mean that just mixing types of knives, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.920 I just came up with the first principle of machettison. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.560 With homeopathy, it's like cares like, and with Michettison it's 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:23.279 knife cares knife. Now we've got an actual practice. Now 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:31.240 it's happening here. Marketing. Also, more is more, more, more, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.200 the more, the more, the more knives you got, the 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:39.240 better you are as a doctor. Shit, I have some 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.320 uncles that are going to be the best doctors in 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.919 the world. They're still alive there, assume Propter Hawk. I 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:51.080 don't know doctor talk, but my brother is a doctor, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.880 and I'm sure your brother brother will agree when he 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.440 hears this episode that this is my podcast. He's out 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.960 there saving lives. Well, he would be saving more live 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.520 if you listen to the study we just conducted and 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.360 the rare chans you do listen to us. Hi, Jake, Jake, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:13.600 give up conventional medicine, start practicing Machettison, Machettison, Doctor Moore, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:20.920 Dr Jake Lichtman, Machet, bleep that name out. Nope, cures lot, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:27.279 it cures baldness, It definitely cures low t eat erectile dysfunction. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.839 Oh yeah, I don't even need a dick when you 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:38.280 get a knife now. Yeah, yeah, Wow, let's start this episode. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.200 Five and a half minutes later, we had to test Machettison, Sophie. Sorry. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.799 So over five million American adults and one million American 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.160 children currently use homeopathy on a regular basis, which is 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.760 too many. So there is a decent chance that some 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.640 of the people listening to this podcast may regularly use 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.320 or have used homeopathic products. I think they probably tuned 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.760 out after the first episode, I would hope, so I 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.680 don't think they make it to this one. We were 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.640 more positive about the founder of homeopathy than any of 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.120 our other fake It's hard not I mean, he's not 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.160 clearly Yeah, he's clearly not a bastard, he's clearly not 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.520 doing his best, just misguided. Yeah yeah. Now, I'm not 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.239 going to tell anybody not to take homeopathic medicine because 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.920 I eat my weight in narcotic leaves every six months, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.480 So he who am I to tell people what's unhealthy? 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.760 But we are going to talk about a lot of 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:33.039 dead babies today because of homeopathy. Ah yep. Now, uh, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.760 First off, I should start by saying that, for the record, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.599 homeopathy is pretty conclusively proven to be bullshit, even after 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.480 that five double blind study. I don't even feel comfortable 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.279 calling it snake oil because there actually is an actual 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.360 snake oil that's an ancient Chinese medicine that actually has 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.160 anti inflammatory properties with testable impacts on the human body. Well, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.400 and now they're testing vipers venom can they think it 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.680 can cure certain types of cancer. There's there's a lot 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.839 of differ medicines and snakes. A snake is like when 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.080 I get sick, I just go roll around in a 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.920 pile of snakes. That that just gave me. I know 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.720 you were a kidding, but still there's a part of 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.040 me I was like don't do that. I'm a big 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:18.600 snake fan. Oh yeah, I think Machettison and snick Hettison's complimentary. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:24.960 It's like being an oncologist and also, uh, other type 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.640 of doctor. I don't know medicine. Um, what I do 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:32.040 know on that one. Uh, there's been a lot of 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.080 studies in the homeopathic medicine to see how it works, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.480 and there you know, I don't want to quote all 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.840 of those, so I found a fun analysis of seventeen 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.440 of those studies on the efficacy of homeopathy in the 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.440 Journal of Clinical Pharmacology. Its title is a Systematic Review 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.080 of systematic Reviews of Homeopathy. Just so we can start 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.280 this episode by conclusively stating it doesn't it doesn't does 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.680 not work. Quote eleven independent systematic reviews were located. Collectively. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.200 They failed to provide strong evidence in favor of homeopathy. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.880 In particular, there was no condition which responds convincingly better 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.880 to homeopathic treatment than to placebo or other control interventions. Similarly, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.320 there was no homeopathic remedy that was demonstrated the yield 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.800 clinical effects that are convincingly different from placebo. Okay, yeah, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.960 one thing that will sometimes he uses like evidence that 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.960 homeopathic works is you'll have some cases where like, oh, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.720 if you actually look at this, the homeopathic group actually 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.280 did slightly better than the placebo group, and it's like, yeah, yeah, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.600 but you have to do better over a certain margin. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.760 It's like, if you're like, if you're giving people, like 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.440 you're trust testing into neurological medicine, it has to help 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.199 more than a certain percentage of people, because the placebo 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.800 effect is going to help a certain percentage exactly. Yeah. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:43.160 So anyway, um, yeah, homeopathy doesn't do anything now. I 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.640 should also note that homeopathic doctors do occasionally attempt to 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.920 carry out their own scientific studies, much like the studies 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.040 we just carried out in this room, and about as 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:57.079 valid as the studies we care. They're as thought out now. Unfortunately, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:02.319 while the Machettison studies were carried out on consenting patient 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:09.160 uh and adult um Sophie Lichtman, homeopathic studies are not 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.839 always carried out on people who can properly consent to 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.280 them uh. In fact, sometimes they test random substances on 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:21.280 impoverished children in the Global South. Yea, yea. There exists 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.120 in this beautiful, dumb, nuclear armed nation of ours, an 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.000 organization called the National Center for complementary and integrative health. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.960 One of the things this publicly funded government entity does 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.640 is test the efficacy of alternative medicine. Now, this is 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.480 something I get frustrated about. I don't like the term 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.880 alternative medicine. There's no such thing as alternative medicine. Medicine 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.840 is either medicine or it's not. Well. By definition, an 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:49.040 alternative to medicine would be poison exactly. It's like it's 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.320 the acid drink the guy make. Yeah, that's what an 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:56.040 alternative to medicine is worse. Yeah, and we I should stay. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:57.760 In some earlier episodes of this I made fun of 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.680 like taking term wreck for everything under the sun, because 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.960 you go to health food store in Los Angeles or 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.360 a lot of hipper cities, you'll find turmeric on the shelves. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.880 For fucking everything. Turmeric. It has actual medicinal properties. It's 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.360 powerful anti inflammatory, it does things like there are things 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.880 that you can do with with turmeric. I'm a big 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.320 fan of Plantago major, which is plantain leaf, uh, and 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.040 it's it's a leaf that's been used for thousands of 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.640 years to treat wounds in societies around the world. And 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.320 because it's an actual medicine. There are scientific studies that 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.400 have confirmed that it does, in fact speed up the 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.800 healing of wounds. So, like, none of the stuff is alternative. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.760 It's just what it does. It's just it's just a 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.400 thing that does something. It's it's just it just dudes 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.960 didn't make it. So now like dudes are like, well, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.080 that's alternative medicine, know what you do. Yeah, it's technically 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.720 alternative medicine. Yeah, because the earth been medicine in itself 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.600 for a long time. Yeah, that's why people like fucking 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.920 Dr Hanman made it to eighty nine. Yeah, some ship 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.000 did work back then. Now, when I found out there 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.480 was a government center aimed attesting alternative medicine, I was 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.480 a little bit pissed. But then I read the results 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.160 of a study that they conducted in El Salvador, and 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.559 that made me really angry. And now I'm gonna read 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.000 you an extra and the abstract from this, Billy winds 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.560 that you can get angry too. I'm just gonna make 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.959 sure this VHS tape of basic instincts near your stab 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.720 at hand to get a knife. Here. Background. Despite the 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.720 widespread availability of oral rehydration therapy, diarrheal illness remains a 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.559 major cause of morbidity and mortality around the world. Previous 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.520 studies have shown individualized homeopathic therapy to be effective in 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.520 treating childhood diarrhea, but this approach requires specialized training. Objective 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.680 homeopathic combination medicine, if effective, could be used by health 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.160 personnel on a widespread basis methods. A double blind, randomized 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.040 controlled trial was conducted in Honduras to evaluate the effectiveness 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.360 of a homeopathic combination therapy to treat acute diarrhea in children. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.080 A total of two children with acute diarrhea were recruited. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.599 A hundred forty five were randomized the experimental group and 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.520 a hundred forty seven to the placebo group. Tablets contained 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.839 a combined preparation of the five most common single homeopathic 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.800 remedies used to treat diarrhea or placeba were administered by 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.959 a parent after each unformed stool. So that's good, They're 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.200 dosing a bunch of kids, and yeah, the study found nothing. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.680 It admitted that there was no significant difference in the 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.160 likelihood of resolution of diarrheal symptoms for the group that 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.160 took homeopathic medicine. Yeah, because it's nothing. Because you hope 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:23.439 it's nothing. Well, yeah, now, the benefit of homeopathy over 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.480 other kinds of fake medicine is that at least it 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:31.080 is just harmless water, but not actually all the time. Um. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.960 I've found a fun article on science based Medicine, a 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.959 wonderful website which digs into the details of this particular study, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.720 and it suggests that they might have slightly poisoned some 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.160 porsic kids in Al Salvador or hund Sorry. Uh. It 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.480 turns out that two of the most popular substances used 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.600 in homeopathic diarrhea treatments are arsenic and poto fhilum. Now 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.920 you know what arsenic is. It's not great. You know 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.800 what poto film is. It is a wart remover so 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.200 strong it is illegal to be administered outside of a 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.880 doctor's office by a doctor. It's a war Yeah. Yeah 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:08.000 that that cannot be sold over the counter. Burn but 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.640 it's one that a doctor has to give you. Yeah. No, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.680 I've I used to have some. I had them frozen 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.720 off and then I had one burned off with a laser. Yeah. Yeah, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.680 that's cooler than the potophilum. It smells terrible, it's awful, yeah, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.840 but probably not as bad as the diary reaward after 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.199 these kids were even nonsense medicine. Pando match yeah, I 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.280 just fuck yeah. Now, the writer of that science based 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.360 medicine article notes, I wonder if the I r B, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.880 which is like the board that like reviews studies and 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.840 stuff from the cases like this, knew that these were 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.240 the ingredients being used. Granted, they are so dilute there 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.160 is nothing left, but there was no data presented to 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.679 show that these components had actually been diluted that much 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.959 and therefore posed no threat to the study subjects. Think 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.240 of it this way. If the remedy has any active ingredients, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.280 it's potentially toxic. If it is truly homeopathic, then it's 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:57.120 nothing more than ethanol and sugary. So the best case 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.839 scenario is that these publicly funded researchers, who you and 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.679 I paid for, Billy Wayne, I, found a bunch of 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.880 poor sick kids and then give them nonsense water and 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.000 pretended it was medicine. The worst case scenario is that 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.400 they poisoned sick children with arsenic and warp remover. And 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.040 it's not a silly fear to be afraid that they 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.640 might accidentally poison some kids, because it's not uncommon for 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.800 homeopaths to funk up the delution process and dose children 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.920 because they're not scientists, because they're not to mix chemicals 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.560 like that. No, uh, and and the yeah, there's actually 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.960 a number of reasons. Um. So we're gonna talk about 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.760 that more in a second, But for just one moment, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.960 I want to revel in the last paragraph from that 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.240 homeopathic study, and this is them trying to like figure 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.440 out why didn't this work? Why didn't it make the 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.160 kids better? A number of factors could account for the 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.800 ineffectiveness of the homeopathic combination therapy. Although the homeopathic remedies 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.680 included in the combination therapy were those most commonly prescribed 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.120 in the previous studies, it is possible that these remedies 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.880 would not have been prescribed individually in this population, and 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.840 or that a different combination medicine would have been more effective. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.200 There's also a possibility that the remedies include did in 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.040 the combination therapy counteracted each other in some way, rendering 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.840 the individual remi He's ineffective. Other factors could be that 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.240 the therapy was not correctly administered by parents in this study, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.160 so it's like, ah, they probably fucked up by giving 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.640 their kids the poison winter wrong. That's who fucked it 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.880 on us. Yeah, and I also love that, like they're 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.360 they're being like well, homeopathy has worked in the past 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.520 on very patients. Like Yeah, if you give people a 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.320 diarrhea water, you usually they don't die. Yes, if you 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.320 keep people hydrated, the body does some crazy wonderful stuff 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.520 every fucking time, which is why Samuel Hanman lived to 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.640 be eighty nine because he drank a lot of water. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:41.240 Super hydrated guy. Now, at one point, Billy Wayne, this 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.920 was meant to be a one part episode, but then 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.400 I googled my way across a Scientific American article with 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.480 one of the most horrifying titles I've ever read. You 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:56.680 read this hundreds of babies harmed by homeopathic remedies. Families say, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.240 damn it, just can you imagine that? And then added, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.000 we like make it sex here. There's never been a 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.920 good story that's opened with hundreds of babies. You just 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:12.520 don't nothing good's gonna come after that. I mean, ah, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.040 what a time we live in two We're like, I 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.440 think you gotta go. You gotta start with the hundreds 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.200 of babies. That's the lead is hundreds of baby eatum 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.960 the click on it, damn it. It opens with a 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.800 case from August first, a mother gives her toddler three 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:34.440 homeopathic pills. Within minutes, the baby stops breathing. My daughter 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.160 had a seizure, lost consciousness, and stopped breathing for about 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.040 thirty minutes after I gave her three Highlands teething tablets. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.800 The mother later told the Food and Drug Administration she 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.080 had to receive mouth to mouth CPR to resume breathing 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:51.760 and was brought to the hospital. So teething tablets, there's 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:58.080 way more recent cases than that. Oh yeah, you stuck 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:02.080 it in the basic in lit it u it is. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.520 That is helpful in dealing with um, dealing with your 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.240 feelings makes thank you, Paul Verhoven. Are you healed? No, 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.760 not yet. It's I mean, I have an eight month old, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:18.320 so like it's just this. I don't okay. Yeah, it's 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.040 not great. It's not great. This is not going to 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.920 be an easy one. So Highlands, the company that made 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.639 those homopathic pills bills itself, is providing safe, effective, and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.560 natural health solutions to parents looking to avoid the danger 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.520 of modern pharmaceuticals. There's all a wide variety of products 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.880 for people of all ages. Their website presents the image 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.360 of a healthy and legitimately medicinal product. I'm gonna show 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.240 you that, Bill. You want to want to describe this 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:45.440 website to our to our audience, Yes, it does. There 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:50.760 there's two young people running uh at sunset on the ocean. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.359 The healthiest time in place to run it is UH. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:18:00.480 Since three that means it's good. It does now looks 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:07.040 and even the Highlands logo looks like a that's it 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.520 looks like one of those everything does it looks like 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.679 a vague drug ad. Yeah, is what it looks though, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.040 And it's interesting that they choose that because, like, one 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.240 of the reasons that these products are so popular that like, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.159 the pharmaceutical industry is fucked and like sells people a 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.200 lot of dangerous ship and markets a lot of dangerous 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.240 ship like just for sheer profit. And yet at the 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.439 same time, while you're profiting off of the fact that 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.800 people don't trust the pharmaceutical industry for good reason, you're 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.400 also in order to make your product look more like medicine, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.400 aping the pharmaceutical industries branding, which is really interesting to me. Well, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:43.360 I think it's smart because the pharmaceutical industry brands everything 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.240 in a way, not because they will, it's just they've 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.080 done the research to be like, this is the best 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.520 way to sell this stuff, So that's pretty smart. They're 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.720 just copying pharmaceutical people's research. One of my favorite things 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.200 to do when I'm really high is to watch pharmaceutical 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.640 ads and work backwards. And one of the things I've 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.720 realized is that if you're selling a pill that helps 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.920 people ship, you show them jogging. Always jogging. Yeah, because 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.840 that's why you can't jog. If you can't, can't, No, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.480 you cannot. You don't want to go jogging. In tiny 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.320 text on the top of Highland's website, there's a little 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:17.680 bit of text that I want to read you, Billy 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:22.840 Wayne claims based on traditional homeopathic practice, not accepted medical evidence, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:30.000 not FDA evaluated. Copy that copy that unlike Machettison, which 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.680 I'm proud to announce as a result of our double 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.320 blind study, now has complete FDA approval. My ear, it's healed. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.480 Thank you, Sophie. You can buy a Machettison starter kit. Yeah, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.000 we're gonna bleep that out. We will. We are now 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.200 selling Machettison starter kits again. You get a free machete 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.080 with every five dollar copy of Machette your Way to 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.119 better health. That's a good deal, you guys. That is 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.600 a great good deal because separately over a thousand dollars 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.439 and uh confirmed by the FDA to cure what ails 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:03.399 you absolutely FDA approved Come at me, motherfucker's. FDA stands 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:13.200 for Freddy, Danny, and Alex. Now. Highlands products have names 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.160 that are crosses between hyper modern medicine and ancient snake 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.159 oil remedies. You can buy nuts vomica, which sounds like 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:23.040 something a Roman doctor would prescribe, and bioplasma, which sounds 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.080 like something you'd pick up in a space first person 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.879 shot plasma, or it sounds like something you sail in 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:35.200 college to get beer money. Yeah, you sell your bioplasma. Yeah, 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.280 I got a good day long, I got four in 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.000 a bucks a month for the guy in a van. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.160 He'll he wants it good. All that bioplasma is paying 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.679 from a tattoos. You can't tell him I'm getting tattoos. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.320 Tell him, do not let them know. They do not 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:55.000 want you getting stick and poked. So you can find nuts, vomica, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.639 and bioplasma on the Highlands Online store What you won't 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.200 find on that site is their homeopathic teething tablets and gels. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:07.600 You know why, Scientific Americans gonna tell you why. Babies 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.200 who were given Highlands teething products turned blue and died. 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.960 Babies had repeated seizures, Babies became delirious, Babies were airlifted 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.359 to the hospital where emergency room staff trying to figure 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.400 out what caused their legs and arms to start twitching. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:25.159 Not a great paragraph. Fuck, yeah, not a great paragraph? 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.840 Is it? Until up? Uh? No, they did eventually stop 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:34.440 selling the poison, the baby poison Highlands all natural baby 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:42.560 killed pills name what we actually do. So I will 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.840 say I would support if they if they marketed them 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.879 as baby killing pills, that would not be unethical. That 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.040 you wouldn't have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, Like if you're 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.760 gonna sell cigarettes to kids under the name like Uncle 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:58.639 Gonzo's bubble gum flavored cancer stick. But Highlands still exists, 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.720 doesn't happen? Yeah, Highlands is still round. Yeah, They're never 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.960 gonna die. No, yeah, they're not. Over a ten year 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.399 period from two thousand and six to two sixteen, the 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.520 image on their website. Yeah, I just pulled it up 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.400 when I was doing the research. That's like. Yeah. Over 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:13.920 a ten year period from two thousand and six to 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:17.280 two thous sixteen, the FDA collected reports of adverse events 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.159 in more than three hundred and seventy children who had 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.119 used Highlands Homeopathic teething tablets or gel, a similar product 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.320 that has applied directly to a baby's gums. Agency records 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.520 show eight cases in which babies were reported to have 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.359 died after taking Highlands products, though the FDA says the 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.920 question of whether those products caused the deaths is still 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.200 under review. Following an FDA warning in September, Highland said 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.640 it would no longer manufacture the teething products, but they 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.760 remained on some store shelves for months and are still 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.320 available on the internet. They likely continue to be used 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:49.240 in homes nationwide. That's great. I love the kind of 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.520 logic for a company like Highlands, where they're like, they 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.520 have so many products on their website. Well, when we 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.120 gave our water to die ore reap patients, they got better, 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.560