Speaker 1: What's testing my fringe medical beliefs. I REMEMBERT Evans hosted
Speaker 1: Behind the Bastard's Back with Billy Wayne Davis for part
Speaker 1: two of our homeopathy episode and Providence. I think God
Speaker 1: himself has presented us Billy Wayne with an opportunity here.
Speaker 1: I think that's what that's how mad, that's how medicine work,
Speaker 1: super Producers. Sophie has an earache that that is that
Speaker 1: is rather painful at the moment. She's not sure why,
Speaker 1: and traditional meal is not dealt with it. It hurts.
Speaker 1: It hurts what kind of pain? It's like throbbing, like
Speaker 1: actual pain, like the inside of the ear. Did you
Speaker 1: stick anything in there? I mean I just put no,
Speaker 1: you can rupture your ear drum. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that it doesn't feel like that because I can still here.
Speaker 1: Would I not be able to hear? I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's how it works. What I do know is
Speaker 1: that it's time to test Machettison out. Now. I'm with this.
Speaker 1: We have to do this as a double blind study,
Speaker 1: which means, Sophie, you're going to close your eye, We're
Speaker 1: gonna hand to make you blind twice. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna hand you both a machete and another kind of
Speaker 1: non machete knife, and you have to hit something with both,
Speaker 1: and then you tell us which one you feel better after,
Speaker 1: and that will be a real medical study, that will
Speaker 1: that will forever prove the validity of machetes you used
Speaker 1: to make sure Anderson doesn't get harmed. Anderson, Anderson, your
Speaker 1: mom's blind and wielding machette. Come over here, Come on,
Speaker 1: your mom's blind and wielding machete. Good, Anderson, get over here. No,
Speaker 1: don't be right under her with the machete that's protecting me.
Speaker 1: She's a body. Okay, Sorry, you gotta close your eyes. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: she's under the table. Close your eyes. Okay. We're giving
Speaker 1: you a random bladed object, may or may not be
Speaker 1: a machete. No way to know. It's definitely my eyes.
Speaker 1: I can tell by the weight I'm gonna. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guide your hand down towards the object of the copy
Speaker 1: of basic instinct that you're gonna hit, just so you
Speaker 1: know where it is. Now, rear up and and hit
Speaker 1: it real hard. Anderson's okay, Yeah, Anderson's fine, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's the first one. That's the first one. Now let's
Speaker 1: scientifically note. Do you feel any different in your ears?
Speaker 1: M okay, now close your eyes, close your eyes, giving
Speaker 1: you another random bladed object. No, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: it is. Now I'm gonna guide your head down, hand
Speaker 1: down again to the copy of basic Basic in stink.
Speaker 1: I want to scoot back just a little bit so
Speaker 1: you can get more strength. You still sayers, Now again,
Speaker 1: rear up with all your might and just whack it.
Speaker 1: Whack it real good. Holy shit, that felt good to watch, now, Sophie,
Speaker 1: you don't know in either case what you were holding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's powerful. Do you does your ear feel better? We
Speaker 1: have a sport to play after this, don't up our ball.
Speaker 1: How's your ear feeling? It still hurts, but my ego sorry,
Speaker 1: it still hurts, but my but my ego feels great,
Speaker 1: which is an important part emotionally powerful. It's good yogurt? Right,
Speaker 1: Do you feel confident? Yeah? Okay, that was a funny
Speaker 1: way to answer that question, like, yeah, my dog wasn't harmed,
Speaker 1: so that's always good. Um, which felt better the big one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: M hm? So what if you knew how to use
Speaker 1: the little ones better? I mean, that would just be
Speaker 1: a completely different studies. I'm doing a shitty metaphor there. Well,
Speaker 1: we would have to do some research. Really, I'm not
Speaker 1: a scientist, nor am I a doctor, but I think
Speaker 1: this scientifically proves that Michettison is a valid branch of
Speaker 1: medical science. Yep, she's still here. Yep, you're not dead,
Speaker 1: and I think your ear is gonna heal as a
Speaker 1: result of this. If you do get better, it's because
Speaker 1: of the machete or the dagger. We don't know, because
Speaker 1: this was not in the actuality a double blind study,
Speaker 1: but it might mean that just mixing types of knives,
Speaker 1: I just came up with the first principle of machettison.
Speaker 1: With homeopathy, it's like cares like, and with Michettison it's
Speaker 1: knife cares knife. Now we've got an actual practice. Now
Speaker 1: it's happening here. Marketing. Also, more is more, more, more,
Speaker 1: the more, the more, the more knives you got, the
Speaker 1: better you are as a doctor. Shit, I have some
Speaker 1: uncles that are going to be the best doctors in
Speaker 1: the world. They're still alive there, assume Propter Hawk. I
Speaker 1: don't know doctor talk, but my brother is a doctor,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure your brother brother will agree when he
Speaker 1: hears this episode that this is my podcast. He's out
Speaker 1: there saving lives. Well, he would be saving more live
Speaker 1: if you listen to the study we just conducted and
Speaker 1: the rare chans you do listen to us. Hi, Jake, Jake,
Speaker 1: give up conventional medicine, start practicing Machettison, Machettison, Doctor Moore,
Speaker 1: Dr Jake Lichtman, Machet, bleep that name out. Nope, cures lot,
Speaker 1: it cures baldness, It definitely cures low t eat erectile dysfunction.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't even need a dick when you
Speaker 1: get a knife now. Yeah, yeah, Wow, let's start this episode.
Speaker 1: Five and a half minutes later, we had to test Machettison, Sophie. Sorry.
Speaker 1: So over five million American adults and one million American
Speaker 1: children currently use homeopathy on a regular basis, which is
Speaker 1: too many. So there is a decent chance that some
Speaker 1: of the people listening to this podcast may regularly use
Speaker 1: or have used homeopathic products. I think they probably tuned
Speaker 1: out after the first episode, I would hope, so I
Speaker 1: don't think they make it to this one. We were
Speaker 1: more positive about the founder of homeopathy than any of
Speaker 1: our other fake It's hard not I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: clearly Yeah, he's clearly not a bastard, he's clearly not
Speaker 1: doing his best, just misguided. Yeah yeah. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to tell anybody not to take homeopathic medicine because
Speaker 1: I eat my weight in narcotic leaves every six months,
Speaker 1: So he who am I to tell people what's unhealthy?
Speaker 1: But we are going to talk about a lot of
Speaker 1: dead babies today because of homeopathy. Ah yep. Now, uh,
Speaker 1: First off, I should start by saying that, for the record,
Speaker 1: homeopathy is pretty conclusively proven to be bullshit, even after
Speaker 1: that five double blind study. I don't even feel comfortable
Speaker 1: calling it snake oil because there actually is an actual
Speaker 1: snake oil that's an ancient Chinese medicine that actually has
Speaker 1: anti inflammatory properties with testable impacts on the human body. Well,
Speaker 1: and now they're testing vipers venom can they think it
Speaker 1: can cure certain types of cancer. There's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of differ medicines and snakes. A snake is like when
Speaker 1: I get sick, I just go roll around in a
Speaker 1: pile of snakes. That that just gave me. I know
Speaker 1: you were a kidding, but still there's a part of
Speaker 1: me I was like don't do that. I'm a big
Speaker 1: snake fan. Oh yeah, I think Machettison and snick Hettison's complimentary.
Speaker 1: It's like being an oncologist and also, uh, other type
Speaker 1: of doctor. I don't know medicine. Um, what I do
Speaker 1: know on that one. Uh, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: studies in the homeopathic medicine to see how it works,
Speaker 1: and there you know, I don't want to quote all
Speaker 1: of those, so I found a fun analysis of seventeen
Speaker 1: of those studies on the efficacy of homeopathy in the
Speaker 1: Journal of Clinical Pharmacology. Its title is a Systematic Review
Speaker 1: of systematic Reviews of Homeopathy. Just so we can start
Speaker 1: this episode by conclusively stating it doesn't it doesn't does
Speaker 1: not work. Quote eleven independent systematic reviews were located. Collectively.
Speaker 1: They failed to provide strong evidence in favor of homeopathy.
Speaker 1: In particular, there was no condition which responds convincingly better
Speaker 1: to homeopathic treatment than to placebo or other control interventions. Similarly,
Speaker 1: there was no homeopathic remedy that was demonstrated the yield
Speaker 1: clinical effects that are convincingly different from placebo. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: one thing that will sometimes he uses like evidence that
Speaker 1: homeopathic works is you'll have some cases where like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you actually look at this, the homeopathic group actually
Speaker 1: did slightly better than the placebo group, and it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have to do better over a certain margin.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're like, if you're giving people, like
Speaker 1: you're trust testing into neurological medicine, it has to help
Speaker 1: more than a certain percentage of people, because the placebo
Speaker 1: effect is going to help a certain percentage exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, um, yeah, homeopathy doesn't do anything now. I
Speaker 1: should also note that homeopathic doctors do occasionally attempt to
Speaker 1: carry out their own scientific studies, much like the studies
Speaker 1: we just carried out in this room, and about as
Speaker 1: valid as the studies we care. They're as thought out now. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: while the Machettison studies were carried out on consenting patient
Speaker 1: uh and adult um Sophie Lichtman, homeopathic studies are not
Speaker 1: always carried out on people who can properly consent to
Speaker 1: them uh. In fact, sometimes they test random substances on
Speaker 1: impoverished children in the Global South. Yea, yea. There exists
Speaker 1: in this beautiful, dumb, nuclear armed nation of ours, an
Speaker 1: organization called the National Center for complementary and integrative health.
Speaker 1: One of the things this publicly funded government entity does
Speaker 1: is test the efficacy of alternative medicine. Now, this is
Speaker 1: something I get frustrated about. I don't like the term
Speaker 1: alternative medicine. There's no such thing as alternative medicine. Medicine
Speaker 1: is either medicine or it's not. Well. By definition, an
Speaker 1: alternative to medicine would be poison exactly. It's like it's
Speaker 1: the acid drink the guy make. Yeah, that's what an
Speaker 1: alternative to medicine is worse. Yeah, and we I should stay.
Speaker 1: In some earlier episodes of this I made fun of
Speaker 1: like taking term wreck for everything under the sun, because
Speaker 1: you go to health food store in Los Angeles or
Speaker 1: a lot of hipper cities, you'll find turmeric on the shelves.
Speaker 1: For fucking everything. Turmeric. It has actual medicinal properties. It's
Speaker 1: powerful anti inflammatory, it does things like there are things
Speaker 1: that you can do with with turmeric. I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of Plantago major, which is plantain leaf, uh, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a leaf that's been used for thousands of
Speaker 1: years to treat wounds in societies around the world. And
Speaker 1: because it's an actual medicine. There are scientific studies that
Speaker 1: have confirmed that it does, in fact speed up the
Speaker 1: healing of wounds. So, like, none of the stuff is alternative.
Speaker 1: It's just what it does. It's just it's just a
Speaker 1: thing that does something. It's it's just it just dudes
Speaker 1: didn't make it. So now like dudes are like, well,
Speaker 1: that's alternative medicine, know what you do. Yeah, it's technically
Speaker 1: alternative medicine. Yeah, because the earth been medicine in itself
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, that's why people like fucking
Speaker 1: Dr Hanman made it to eighty nine. Yeah, some ship
Speaker 1: did work back then. Now, when I found out there
Speaker 1: was a government center aimed attesting alternative medicine, I was
Speaker 1: a little bit pissed. But then I read the results
Speaker 1: of a study that they conducted in El Salvador, and
Speaker 1: that made me really angry. And now I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: you an extra and the abstract from this, Billy winds
Speaker 1: that you can get angry too. I'm just gonna make
Speaker 1: sure this VHS tape of basic instincts near your stab
Speaker 1: at hand to get a knife. Here. Background. Despite the
Speaker 1: widespread availability of oral rehydration therapy, diarrheal illness remains a
Speaker 1: major cause of morbidity and mortality around the world. Previous
Speaker 1: studies have shown individualized homeopathic therapy to be effective in
Speaker 1: treating childhood diarrhea, but this approach requires specialized training. Objective
Speaker 1: homeopathic combination medicine, if effective, could be used by health
Speaker 1: personnel on a widespread basis methods. A double blind, randomized
Speaker 1: controlled trial was conducted in Honduras to evaluate the effectiveness
Speaker 1: of a homeopathic combination therapy to treat acute diarrhea in children.
Speaker 1: A total of two children with acute diarrhea were recruited.
Speaker 1: A hundred forty five were randomized the experimental group and
Speaker 1: a hundred forty seven to the placebo group. Tablets contained
Speaker 1: a combined preparation of the five most common single homeopathic
Speaker 1: remedies used to treat diarrhea or placeba were administered by
Speaker 1: a parent after each unformed stool. So that's good, They're
Speaker 1: dosing a bunch of kids, and yeah, the study found nothing.
Speaker 1: It admitted that there was no significant difference in the
Speaker 1: likelihood of resolution of diarrheal symptoms for the group that
Speaker 1: took homeopathic medicine. Yeah, because it's nothing. Because you hope
Speaker 1: it's nothing. Well, yeah, now, the benefit of homeopathy over
Speaker 1: other kinds of fake medicine is that at least it
Speaker 1: is just harmless water, but not actually all the time. Um.
Speaker 1: I've found a fun article on science based Medicine, a
Speaker 1: wonderful website which digs into the details of this particular study,
Speaker 1: and it suggests that they might have slightly poisoned some
Speaker 1: porsic kids in Al Salvador or hund Sorry. Uh. It
Speaker 1: turns out that two of the most popular substances used
Speaker 1: in homeopathic diarrhea treatments are arsenic and poto fhilum. Now
Speaker 1: you know what arsenic is. It's not great. You know
Speaker 1: what poto film is. It is a wart remover so
Speaker 1: strong it is illegal to be administered outside of a
Speaker 1: doctor's office by a doctor. It's a war Yeah. Yeah
Speaker 1: that that cannot be sold over the counter. Burn but
Speaker 1: it's one that a doctor has to give you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I've I used to have some. I had them frozen
Speaker 1: off and then I had one burned off with a laser. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cooler than the potophilum. It smells terrible, it's awful, yeah,
Speaker 1: but probably not as bad as the diary reaward after
Speaker 1: these kids were even nonsense medicine. Pando match yeah, I
Speaker 1: just fuck yeah. Now, the writer of that science based
Speaker 1: medicine article notes, I wonder if the I r B,
Speaker 1: which is like the board that like reviews studies and
Speaker 1: stuff from the cases like this, knew that these were
Speaker 1: the ingredients being used. Granted, they are so dilute there
Speaker 1: is nothing left, but there was no data presented to
Speaker 1: show that these components had actually been diluted that much
Speaker 1: and therefore posed no threat to the study subjects. Think
Speaker 1: of it this way. If the remedy has any active ingredients,
Speaker 1: it's potentially toxic. If it is truly homeopathic, then it's
Speaker 1: nothing more than ethanol and sugary. So the best case
Speaker 1: scenario is that these publicly funded researchers, who you and
Speaker 1: I paid for, Billy Wayne, I, found a bunch of
Speaker 1: poor sick kids and then give them nonsense water and
Speaker 1: pretended it was medicine. The worst case scenario is that
Speaker 1: they poisoned sick children with arsenic and warp remover. And
Speaker 1: it's not a silly fear to be afraid that they
Speaker 1: might accidentally poison some kids, because it's not uncommon for
Speaker 1: homeopaths to funk up the delution process and dose children
Speaker 1: because they're not scientists, because they're not to mix chemicals
Speaker 1: like that. No, uh, and and the yeah, there's actually
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. Um. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that more in a second, But for just one moment,
Speaker 1: I want to revel in the last paragraph from that
Speaker 1: homeopathic study, and this is them trying to like figure
Speaker 1: out why didn't this work? Why didn't it make the
Speaker 1: kids better? A number of factors could account for the
Speaker 1: ineffectiveness of the homeopathic combination therapy. Although the homeopathic remedies
Speaker 1: included in the combination therapy were those most commonly prescribed
Speaker 1: in the previous studies, it is possible that these remedies
Speaker 1: would not have been prescribed individually in this population, and
Speaker 1: or that a different combination medicine would have been more effective.
Speaker 1: There's also a possibility that the remedies include did in
Speaker 1: the combination therapy counteracted each other in some way, rendering
Speaker 1: the individual remi He's ineffective. Other factors could be that
Speaker 1: the therapy was not correctly administered by parents in this study,
Speaker 1: so it's like, ah, they probably fucked up by giving
Speaker 1: their kids the poison winter wrong. That's who fucked it
Speaker 1: on us. Yeah, and I also love that, like they're
Speaker 1: they're being like well, homeopathy has worked in the past
Speaker 1: on very patients. Like Yeah, if you give people a
Speaker 1: diarrhea water, you usually they don't die. Yes, if you
Speaker 1: keep people hydrated, the body does some crazy wonderful stuff
Speaker 1: every fucking time, which is why Samuel Hanman lived to
Speaker 1: be eighty nine because he drank a lot of water.
Speaker 1: Super hydrated guy. Now, at one point, Billy Wayne, this
Speaker 1: was meant to be a one part episode, but then
Speaker 1: I googled my way across a Scientific American article with
Speaker 1: one of the most horrifying titles I've ever read. You
Speaker 1: read this hundreds of babies harmed by homeopathic remedies. Families say,
Speaker 1: damn it, just can you imagine that? And then added,
Speaker 1: we like make it sex here. There's never been a
Speaker 1: good story that's opened with hundreds of babies. You just
Speaker 1: don't nothing good's gonna come after that. I mean, ah,
Speaker 1: what a time we live in two We're like, I
Speaker 1: think you gotta go. You gotta start with the hundreds
Speaker 1: of babies. That's the lead is hundreds of baby eatum
Speaker 1: the click on it, damn it. It opens with a
Speaker 1: case from August first, a mother gives her toddler three
Speaker 1: homeopathic pills. Within minutes, the baby stops breathing. My daughter
Speaker 1: had a seizure, lost consciousness, and stopped breathing for about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes after I gave her three Highlands teething tablets.
Speaker 1: The mother later told the Food and Drug Administration she
Speaker 1: had to receive mouth to mouth CPR to resume breathing
Speaker 1: and was brought to the hospital. So teething tablets, there's
Speaker 1: way more recent cases than that. Oh yeah, you stuck
Speaker 1: it in the basic in lit it u it is.
Speaker 1: That is helpful in dealing with um, dealing with your
Speaker 1: feelings makes thank you, Paul Verhoven. Are you healed? No,
Speaker 1: not yet. It's I mean, I have an eight month old,
Speaker 1: so like it's just this. I don't okay. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not great. It's not great. This is not going to
Speaker 1: be an easy one. So Highlands, the company that made
Speaker 1: those homopathic pills bills itself, is providing safe, effective, and
Speaker 1: natural health solutions to parents looking to avoid the danger
Speaker 1: of modern pharmaceuticals. There's all a wide variety of products
Speaker 1: for people of all ages. Their website presents the image
Speaker 1: of a healthy and legitimately medicinal product. I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you that, Bill. You want to want to describe this
Speaker 1: website to our to our audience, Yes, it does. There
Speaker 1: there's two young people running uh at sunset on the ocean.
Speaker 1: The healthiest time in place to run it is UH.
Speaker 1: Since three that means it's good. It does now looks
Speaker 1: and even the Highlands logo looks like a that's it
Speaker 1: looks like one of those everything does it looks like
Speaker 1: a vague drug ad. Yeah, is what it looks though,
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that they choose that because, like, one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that these products are so popular that like,
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry is fucked and like sells people a
Speaker 1: lot of dangerous ship and markets a lot of dangerous
Speaker 1: ship like just for sheer profit. And yet at the
Speaker 1: same time, while you're profiting off of the fact that
Speaker 1: people don't trust the pharmaceutical industry for good reason, you're
Speaker 1: also in order to make your product look more like medicine,
Speaker 1: aping the pharmaceutical industries branding, which is really interesting to me. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's smart because the pharmaceutical industry brands everything
Speaker 1: in a way, not because they will, it's just they've
Speaker 1: done the research to be like, this is the best
Speaker 1: way to sell this stuff, So that's pretty smart. They're
Speaker 1: just copying pharmaceutical people's research. One of my favorite things
Speaker 1: to do when I'm really high is to watch pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: ads and work backwards. And one of the things I've
Speaker 1: realized is that if you're selling a pill that helps
Speaker 1: people ship, you show them jogging. Always jogging. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's why you can't jog. If you can't, can't, No,
Speaker 1: you cannot. You don't want to go jogging. In tiny
Speaker 1: text on the top of Highland's website, there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of text that I want to read you, Billy
Speaker 1: Wayne claims based on traditional homeopathic practice, not accepted medical evidence,
Speaker 1: not FDA evaluated. Copy that copy that unlike Machettison, which
Speaker 1: I'm proud to announce as a result of our double
Speaker 1: blind study, now has complete FDA approval. My ear, it's healed.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sophie. You can buy a Machettison starter kit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bleep that out. We will. We are now
Speaker 1: selling Machettison starter kits again. You get a free machete
Speaker 1: with every five dollar copy of Machette your Way to
Speaker 1: better health. That's a good deal, you guys. That is
Speaker 1: a great good deal because separately over a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and uh confirmed by the FDA to cure what ails
Speaker 1: you absolutely FDA approved Come at me, motherfucker's. FDA stands
Speaker 1: for Freddy, Danny, and Alex. Now. Highlands products have names
Speaker 1: that are crosses between hyper modern medicine and ancient snake
Speaker 1: oil remedies. You can buy nuts vomica, which sounds like
Speaker 1: something a Roman doctor would prescribe, and bioplasma, which sounds
Speaker 1: like something you'd pick up in a space first person
Speaker 1: shot plasma, or it sounds like something you sail in
Speaker 1: college to get beer money. Yeah, you sell your bioplasma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a good day long, I got four in
Speaker 1: a bucks a month for the guy in a van.
Speaker 1: He'll he wants it good. All that bioplasma is paying
Speaker 1: from a tattoos. You can't tell him I'm getting tattoos.
Speaker 1: Tell him, do not let them know. They do not
Speaker 1: want you getting stick and poked. So you can find nuts, vomica,
Speaker 1: and bioplasma on the Highlands Online store What you won't
Speaker 1: find on that site is their homeopathic teething tablets and gels.
Speaker 1: You know why, Scientific Americans gonna tell you why. Babies
Speaker 1: who were given Highlands teething products turned blue and died.
Speaker 1: Babies had repeated seizures, Babies became delirious, Babies were airlifted
Speaker 1: to the hospital where emergency room staff trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what caused their legs and arms to start twitching.
Speaker 1: Not a great paragraph. Fuck, yeah, not a great paragraph?
Speaker 1: Is it? Until up? Uh? No, they did eventually stop
Speaker 1: selling the poison, the baby poison Highlands all natural baby
Speaker 1: killed pills name what we actually do. So I will
Speaker 1: say I would support if they if they marketed them
Speaker 1: as baby killing pills, that would not be unethical. That
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, Like if you're
Speaker 1: gonna sell cigarettes to kids under the name like Uncle
Speaker 1: Gonzo's bubble gum flavored cancer stick. But Highlands still exists,
Speaker 1: doesn't happen? Yeah, Highlands is still round. Yeah, They're never
Speaker 1: gonna die. No, yeah, they're not. Over a ten year
Speaker 1: period from two thousand and six to two sixteen, the
Speaker 1: image on their website. Yeah, I just pulled it up
Speaker 1: when I was doing the research. That's like. Yeah. Over
Speaker 1: a ten year period from two thousand and six to
Speaker 1: two thous sixteen, the FDA collected reports of adverse events
Speaker 1: in more than three hundred and seventy children who had
Speaker 1: used Highlands Homeopathic teething tablets or gel, a similar product
Speaker 1: that has applied directly to a baby's gums. Agency records
Speaker 1: show eight cases in which babies were reported to have
Speaker 1: died after taking Highlands products, though the FDA says the
Speaker 1: question of whether those products caused the deaths is still
Speaker 1: under review. Following an FDA warning in September, Highland said
Speaker 1: it would no longer manufacture the teething products, but they
Speaker 1: remained on some store shelves for months and are still
Speaker 1: available on the internet. They likely continue to be used
Speaker 1: in homes nationwide. That's great. I love the kind of
Speaker 1: logic for a company like Highlands, where they're like, they
Speaker 1: have so many products on their website. Well, when we
Speaker 1: gave our water to die ore reap patients, they got better,
Speaker 1: which means homeopathy works. When all these baby took our
Speaker 1: teething pills and died, there's no evidence it's connected to
Speaker 1: the teething pills. That sucks. But the money keep Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all have so much money. Can't let just send
Speaker 1: a couple of dead babies getting away the money truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that's why you get a money truck with
Speaker 1: big wheels, roll right over them babies. Oh yeah, speaking
Speaker 1: of running over babies, no, no, is that a bad
Speaker 1: way to go to add speaking of babies living forever,
Speaker 1: these products and services that advertise on our show will
Speaker 1: make your babies live longer than highlands all natural baby
Speaker 1: killing hills that guarantee, guarantee, a guarantee. I feel like
Speaker 1: we can safely make that claim. But if the FDA
Speaker 1: wants to come at me, go for it. Products, We're back.
Speaker 1: We're back taunting the f d A as per usual.
Speaker 1: I think this is the administration to taunt the FDA. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're okay. I think we're okay. They do
Speaker 1: not have a lot of teeth these days. Yeah. So yeah.
Speaker 1: The probable culprit for all these baby deaths is a
Speaker 1: key ingredient in highlands teething products at Tropa Bella donna. Yeah,
Speaker 1: deadly night shade, uh Jesus, Yeah, which is one of
Speaker 1: the one of the plants that Samuel Hahnman was a
Speaker 1: big fan of using in his home. He had to
Speaker 1: head his kids pass that. Yeah, um, it is not
Speaker 1: something in case the name Deadly night Shade did not
Speaker 1: key you in. It is not something you should give
Speaker 1: to children or anyone. I don't know anyone unless you're
Speaker 1: doing a murder. Yeah, and I think it's your murder
Speaker 1: and someone solid picker. Now. Homeopathic medicine is supposed to
Speaker 1: be so deluded that literally no molecules of the original
Speaker 1: substance remains, But in practice homeopaths kind of funk up sometimes.
Speaker 1: In two FDA inspectors at a Highland facility reported substandard
Speaker 1: manufacturing processes and inconsistent levels of Bella Donna in their products.
Speaker 1: That is a nice way of saying not all of
Speaker 1: their water had the poison diluted out of it. It's
Speaker 1: like animals. Yeah, we're sure. We'd like to say that's
Speaker 1: ten milligrams, but they don't know. One of them might
Speaker 1: be ten and then the one next to it might
Speaker 1: be zero. It's all in one thing. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: when you're it's not science. They're not doing science. They're
Speaker 1: doing money. They're doing money, and they're great money and
Speaker 1: make billions of dollars all these companies because you don't
Speaker 1: have to because people it's frustrating because like people rightly,
Speaker 1: like we just did an episode on the Sacklers, and
Speaker 1: like the the opioid industry people are right. They are like, oh,
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry is fucked up. Uh, And instead they
Speaker 1: just go to another company that's just as bad, but
Speaker 1: at least those pills get you high. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: like going like McDonald's is shitty, I'm going to burger Ky. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: it's like that brief period when McDonald's was trying to
Speaker 1: get everyone on board salads that who would choose Burger
Speaker 1: King over McDonald No, I agree, But that's the point
Speaker 1: I'm make. Yeah, it's both starbage. They're both garbage. Mc
Speaker 1: donald's preservatives do taste better, they do, they do, and
Speaker 1: their fries are better. So I was about to say,
Speaker 1: we're measuring by one thing. It has to be by
Speaker 1: the fried quality behind the bastards is of course supported
Speaker 1: by McDonald's in their corporate masters, nor dyeing defense systems,
Speaker 1: nor dyeing defense systems, whether you want French fries or
Speaker 1: a rocket propelled grenade launch. Here were kids. We're kaling
Speaker 1: in really dark. That's a double meaning that they're doing
Speaker 1: really well as a company and they're also murdering. And
Speaker 1: they're also murdering. I could go on advertising, really could
Speaker 1: hire US Corporate America now um. After the first deaths,
Speaker 1: the FDA issued a public warning that there were quote
Speaker 1: reports of serious adverse events and children taking this product
Speaker 1: that are consistent with belladonna toxicity. We just want to
Speaker 1: let everybody know that might kill your baby. And that
Speaker 1: is how you say they're poisoning babies with belladonna without
Speaker 1: saying they're poisoning. There's reports of serious events and children
Speaker 1: taking this product that are consistent with the poisons in
Speaker 1: the product. Yeah, serious event just happened. The FDA, for
Speaker 1: their warned that little babies are particularly vulnerable to the
Speaker 1: neurotoxic poison because their babies and quote the absorption of
Speaker 1: belladonna from the skin and mouth is fairly rapid in babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're just weak, little good they're weak, little goose. Yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to be given, for example, belladonna anything
Speaker 1: but milk, anything but milk. Really like you avoid perfume
Speaker 1: around babies. Right, Yeah, it's not great. They they're they're
Speaker 1: they're tiny, they're not like horses. They're not tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's skulls, not even they're missing most of the good bones.
Speaker 1: They only have the crappy bones at first. Just give
Speaker 1: it some You got the thing that's called deadly, give
Speaker 1: it to the bait. Oh, this is the deadly night shade.
Speaker 1: That's the one for a baby. Should we start with
Speaker 1: just the okay night shade, No, chryl the deadly one. Now.
Speaker 1: Highlands has been in the fake medicine business for a
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen years. They're based right here in the
Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles. That is not surprising. They are
Speaker 1: the largest homeopathic business in the United States. They claim
Speaker 1: their products are safe and there's no proven scientific link
Speaker 1: between their teething products and infant seizures or deaths. Spokeswoman
Speaker 1: Mary Borneman said, a point of view, what a point
Speaker 1: of view? Here's our stance. There's no scientific proof we
Speaker 1: killed those babies, which is only a sitt and said
Speaker 1: by good people. Yes, I'm gonna quote from spokes when
Speaker 1: Mary Borneman talking to Scientific American. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: children don't have a sensitivity to a product. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of sensitivity on kids parts, and we have to
Speaker 1: watch carefully. It's not something that condemns the entire product line.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine sitting across from her when she said that.
Speaker 1: And I love the question because because then you she's saying, like,
Speaker 1: there's no proof that there's a link between our teething
Speaker 1: products and infant seizures. But infants might be sensitive to
Speaker 1: the poison in our teething products, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that our ty cast baby to get a tough baby.
Speaker 1: And then we'll come talk. You try giving him scotch,
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, wait, wait, just to take it.
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Speaker 1: Shind you with a product. Okay, so um, yeah, it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: It took four years for the FDA to get Highlands
Speaker 1: to change their recipes to something hopefully less dangerous. Guys,
Speaker 1: I know, hear. Hey another email, just to quit gentle reminders.
Speaker 1: Stop putting poison in your baby stuff? Maybe don't? Yeah,
Speaker 1: memo to staff are E poison pills for babies. Hey
Speaker 1: maybe not? Hey Highlands FTI again, I know I'm being
Speaker 1: a pain, but could you guys stop doing the poison
Speaker 1: the base? No, Okay, we'll draw back. Okay, we'll try
Speaker 1: back another time. See if you guys change your mind.
Speaker 1: We're patient here now. While Highlands did change their recipe
Speaker 1: in the years since, the parade of deaths and seizures
Speaker 1: continued no Scientific American. In case four six two seven,
Speaker 1: four nine, dated September two thousand and eleven, a physician
Speaker 1: sent Highlands a handwritten note stating his patient, a five
Speaker 1: month old girl, was unresponsive for forty five minutes after
Speaker 1: taking its teething tablets. I am sure this was not
Speaker 1: an allergic reaction, he wrote. I would like you to
Speaker 1: report it, find a contact at the FDA so we
Speaker 1: can start an investigation and pull this dangerous, unregulated product
Speaker 1: from the shelves. One mother wrote the company to say
Speaker 1: her son's people's dilated like marbles with big black eyes
Speaker 1: and described her daughter continue to have after taking the tablets,
Speaker 1: and told the company, I hate, hate, hate you for
Speaker 1: this reasonable response that is that's actually kind of yep,
Speaker 1: tempid response. The third hate, another's three fourth hate. That
Speaker 1: might have been good or fucking yeah, good good time
Speaker 1: for a fucking just like a white powder in that
Speaker 1: envelope to you know, I was gonna say going in
Speaker 1: this episode, there's no justified time to send a boy.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't talk about mailing powders through the pleasures. Move
Speaker 1: right along. Karina Talbot, twenty six year old mother, told
Speaker 1: Scientific American that she picked Higland's teething products because they
Speaker 1: were marketed as natural, and clearly natural is better than
Speaker 1: whatever unnatural stuff is in the teething products that contain
Speaker 1: doesn't these suckers gave their kid uh pacifiers, Those don't
Speaker 1: have any poison in them at all? Is God the
Speaker 1: leaps the human brain makes. Yeah, I think egos, I mean,
Speaker 1: ego seems to be really involved in a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff. Well ego and I think just a lot
Speaker 1: of it's just you know, there's so much information to
Speaker 1: take in, and people average people are necessarily great incredibly
Speaker 1: reviewing sources and like you have a lot of friends
Speaker 1: who are like, oh no, my my kid, And there
Speaker 1: is stuff where like I was just talking about pacifiers,
Speaker 1: but like there have been cases where like pacifiers made
Speaker 1: by some shady company and a bad factory in like
Speaker 1: China or something that like lead on them and ship
Speaker 1: like it does, Like there's a lot of ship gets
Speaker 1: in the formula too, scary, nothing's perfect, and so people
Speaker 1: like see natural on a label and assume it really
Speaker 1: means something and also assumes that natural like like they
Speaker 1: don't think about the fact that like rice and is natural,
Speaker 1: like yes, like the and they don't like my dad
Speaker 1: makes that joke because like organic he's like, what's that mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like it, and it's mostly about a marketing buzzword
Speaker 1: at this point, Like they're like, which is not to
Speaker 1: say that there's not some like some of the practices
Speaker 1: that are advocated by that crowd can be good, but
Speaker 1: like the actual legal definition is very easy to game.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so easy, Like you talk about like people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I don't use his organic pesticides. If
Speaker 1: you've been in a farm that's been spread worth organic pesticides,
Speaker 1: it's just like as much sulfur as you can fit,
Speaker 1: you can good for you. And that's not even the
Speaker 1: right way to do that organic stuff. Like my friend
Speaker 1: that lives in Eugene, he's a professional cannabis grower and
Speaker 1: they grow it organically, but it's all from like other
Speaker 1: plants he's mixing and it's insane what he does. But
Speaker 1: what he was, like what these other people call organic
Speaker 1: is not like he learned from this Korean, this old
Speaker 1: Korean man. It's like, sorry, okay, we're all being marketed
Speaker 1: to all the time by everyone, and it's um one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why. And I don't want to make
Speaker 1: like Koreina Talbot, the mother here who like picked the
Speaker 1: these teeth products because they natural had to be a
Speaker 1: bad person. Like there's so much ship out there that
Speaker 1: like people make bad decisions by definition, because there's it's
Speaker 1: so hard to pick the good information from the bad,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's complicated, and it's our government, the
Speaker 1: FDA should do more to make it very clear, um
Speaker 1: to stop a company like Highlands from making themselves look
Speaker 1: like a legitimate pharmaceutical company, for example. It just has
Speaker 1: to be clear what you are. Yeah, yes, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: If it was Thailand's brand nonsense water now with poison,
Speaker 1: like you can have that problect Yeah exactly. So um,
Speaker 1: I'm going a quote from Karina Talbot again. When our
Speaker 1: fourth kiddo comes around and starts teething it three months,
Speaker 1: we were like, okay, what can we do to give
Speaker 1: him some relief. Someone told us about the teething tablets
Speaker 1: and we thought, give them a try. So she gave
Speaker 1: her son some Highlands teething products and his hands started twitching,
Speaker 1: then his feet. The twitching got worse over the course
Speaker 1: of several days, and it took a while for she
Speaker 1: and her husband to realize the little seizures world to
Speaker 1: the teething tablets. When she stopped dosing her son, he
Speaker 1: stopped seizing. Now this represents one of the better case scenarios.
Speaker 1: The worst case scenario is fd A case one oh
Speaker 1: seven two three three one seven a mother who in
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen gave her nine month old daughter
Speaker 1: two teething tablets. Quote. She gave her infant the tablets,
Speaker 1: then a bottle, then left her to sleep. When she
Speaker 1: checked on her, forty five minutes later, she was dead
Speaker 1: in her crib beside a puddle of vomit. God. Yeah. Now.
Speaker 1: Five months later, the mother of this deceased child read
Speaker 1: online that babies had suffered seizures after taking Highlands baby
Speaker 1: killing pills. Shows. She reached out to them and here's
Speaker 1: scientific American talking about Highlands response to this, I bet
Speaker 1: it was good. It was up there were like Spectrum.
Speaker 1: You might need the big knife for this. One billion
Speaker 1: customer did not request a refund or replacement, noted the
Speaker 1: silent staffer who filed the report with the f d A.
Speaker 1: Highlands also noted that it was not able to test
Speaker 1: the bottle because the customer threw it away. Due to
Speaker 1: the limited information provided by the reporter, no further investigation
Speaker 1: is possible. At the time of this incident, the company concluded,
Speaker 1: there's just nothing we can do about this dead baby case.
Speaker 1: I can't save the bottle. That's real unfortunate. Whoever the
Speaker 1: boss was at Highlands, like, who's our best sociopath? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who is our worst person? Let's get them on this.
Speaker 1: He's just a Christian Bale character in the corner, just
Speaker 1: stabbing a lady, what I'll do it? Hey, Jim, there's
Speaker 1: more dead kids. We need you to send a real
Speaker 1: bad email. Time to get to work now. Uh. The
Speaker 1: f d A could do a lot more to police
Speaker 1: homopathic medicine, but dealing with homeopathic medicine is generally low
Speaker 1: on their priority list. And that's you want to talk
Speaker 1: to these idiots. Yeah, there's there's an aspect to which
Speaker 1: that's fair, because the idea is that homeotic remedies are
Speaker 1: just water. So like you can see how the FDA
Speaker 1: would prioritize, like, oh, there's people bleaching their kids assholes,
Speaker 1: stop autism. That's got to be a priority over the
Speaker 1: water selling. Yes, nonsense, Like you can see the logic there.
Speaker 1: And also like all the other pill companies, all the
Speaker 1: other pill companies trying to just make all of the
Speaker 1: legal drugs legal and change the name. So we're focused
Speaker 1: on that too right now, which we should just let
Speaker 1: people do so that I can bite allotted in the
Speaker 1: grocery store again. Um, but that's aside the point and
Speaker 1: a personal issue more than a societal thing. I'm talking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, the all this stuff that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about gets more attention from the FDA's limited resources
Speaker 1: than homeopathy. But that's not the only reason regulators take
Speaker 1: a light hand in the baby poisoning industry. See The
Speaker 1: Complementary and Alternative Medicine or CAM lobby is the official
Speaker 1: lobbying arm of homeopathy and other sorts of you know,
Speaker 1: alternative medical Yeah, why wouldn't they need? Of course, just
Speaker 1: like pharmaceutical companies. They sent their fillions of dollars in
Speaker 1: lobbying too. We're not shady enough. Let's do what the pharmacy.
Speaker 1: We're not like pharmaceutical companies. You can trust us. But
Speaker 1: also let's do everything pharmaceutical companies do. Could you get
Speaker 1: a hand on their business because they make so much
Speaker 1: money they print it. Yeah, we could make that money.
Speaker 1: We don't have to spend any money even researching medicine,
Speaker 1: tending to research. We can just put poison and water
Speaker 1: and give it to babies. The fucking Margins on that
Speaker 1: ship wild back in two thousand thirteen, they lobbied for
Speaker 1: a clause in the Affordable Care Act Section two seven
Speaker 1: oh six, which would have forced insurance companies to pay
Speaker 1: for so called alternative medicine. This language was added to
Speaker 1: the a c A by Senator Tom Harkin, a lobbyist
Speaker 1: for the American Chiropractic Association and a member of the
Speaker 1: Integrated Health Policy Consocial h PC. Senator Jesus, it's all fine,
Speaker 1: just the chiropractic, which we know is good. According to
Speaker 1: Forbes quote, it is virtually certain that lobbyists wrote that
Speaker 1: section and Harkins simply inserted it into the law. The
Speaker 1: h PC is a lobby and group dedicated to obtaining
Speaker 1: more government money for homeopathy, naturopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, interraft of
Speaker 1: other ineffectual medical practices. Now section to seven oh six
Speaker 1: is not all bad, just as the world of complimentary
Speaker 1: medicine is all bunk them. But it does mean that
Speaker 1: in addition to guaranteeing taxpayer funding for debatably useful things,
Speaker 1: it may also have meant more taxpayer dollars for businesses
Speaker 1: like Highlands. In general, the cam lobby fights to have
Speaker 1: their medicine treated as medicine for the purpose of insurance building,
Speaker 1: but not treated as medicine for the purpose of making
Speaker 1: sure it's safe and effective to give to babies. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a prophet. We want to sell it like medicine,
Speaker 1: but we don't want to have to prove that it
Speaker 1: works or is safe like medicine. Yeah, do you see
Speaker 1: why this is fair? Yeah, this is how it should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there. The they're the are the Reverend R and
Speaker 1: B singers. Yeah, that's the Christian rock and roll of medicine. Yes, yes, no,
Speaker 1: we love Jesus as they snort cocaine and have sex
Speaker 1: on their bus. But we don't pay tax But we
Speaker 1: don't have to pay taxes, which means more cocaine. Always
Speaker 1: party with a Christian rock band if you get the chance.
Speaker 1: If you do get a chance, it is fun. It's
Speaker 1: a great time. They're good musicians too, they just don't
Speaker 1: know if they don't do it on stay age. You
Speaker 1: get them back on that bus, do a couple of lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like all the same music. Then you get the
Speaker 1: Black sabbath Is. It's it's just a weird curtain to
Speaker 1: pull behind your what in the fun? Oh it's a
Speaker 1: money thing. It's a grift. Okay. Now. The cam lobby
Speaker 1: and the money that they spend lobbying is part of
Speaker 1: why it took so many years for the FDA to
Speaker 1: push Highlands to reformulate their famous baby killing pills and
Speaker 1: part of why when Highlands did reformulate that ship, they
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily make it less toxic. Uh Sarah's Sorcer, an
Speaker 1: attorney for the Public Citizen Health Research Group, told Scientific
Speaker 1: American this, the FDA could bring the hammer down on them,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. At the point where you have infants
Speaker 1: being hospitalized and deaths reported, it's simply not acceptable for
Speaker 1: the agency to delay and taking action. It seems fair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The FDA's Drug Division determines whether or not a product
Speaker 1: on the market is unsafe, but in order to make
Speaker 1: that determination, the FDA relies heavily on reports from actual
Speaker 1: doctors in the field in which drugs and drug like
Speaker 1: substances are killing pol This is a particular problem with
Speaker 1: homeopathic products because they're supposed to just be water, which
Speaker 1: means physicians rarely think to ask if a patient has
Speaker 1: been taking homeopathic teething pills. Dr Edward Boyer, a Harvard
Speaker 1: toxicologist who works at the Harvard Medical School. E Er
Speaker 1: told Scientific American this, if I'm working in the emergency
Speaker 1: room and I have a family that comes in with
Speaker 1: a seizing infant, I may not have the wherewithal to
Speaker 1: get the history of homeopathic use. You're not going to
Speaker 1: assume it's the water pills, so it means that they
Speaker 1: don't notice a lot of this contributes to an illness. Well,
Speaker 1: when you don't think you're giving them anything, So why
Speaker 1: would you tell them exactly it's natural. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: good news is that in December of two sixteen, more
Speaker 1: than half a decade after the first death, we reported
Speaker 1: Highlands pulled their baby nighttime teething tablets off the shelves.
Speaker 1: They were adamant that their safety standards were incredibly stringent
Speaker 1: and frame. This is basically, we have to pull this
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Speaker 1: of dicks. That doesn't get me mean he's fucking dead.
Speaker 1: Highlands representative told Scientific American homeopathic medicine has a very
Speaker 1: large margin of say, are testing insures there's not too
Speaker 1: much belladonna in any bottle. If there's any belladonna in
Speaker 1: a teething product, it's too much. There's not a lot.
Speaker 1: It's these pussy babies. Just on January seventeen, the United
Speaker 1: States Food and Drug Administration posted this fund press release.
Speaker 1: FDA confirms elevated levels of belladonna in certain homeopathic teething products.
Speaker 1: You can't stop these people from putting poison in baby pills.
Speaker 1: They just love it. Why because they're just they're not
Speaker 1: taking the proper precautions. But I don't don't have to.
Speaker 1: That's okay, That is exactly. If humans don't have to,
Speaker 1: they don't do it. Yeah, it's like the people who
Speaker 1: are like all these regulations are like for like health
Speaker 1: and safety, like ocean ship is like slowing down innovation.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, dude, people would be like shooting at
Speaker 1: workers to make them move faster if there weren't laws
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Speaker 1: and I regularly throw knives and bagels around with the
Speaker 1: sling like it's terrible. It's terrible. I should be in
Speaker 1: in charge of the country. Um so yeah. This press
Speaker 1: release revealed that Highlands was not the only company accidentally
Speaker 1: dropping belladonna into its teething products. Another homeopathic medicine company,
Speaker 1: Raritan Pharmaceuticals, was forced to pull their products off the
Speaker 1: shelf when poison was found in them. So that's goods
Speaker 1: all right. Now, if you're a sane person, you might
Speaker 1: be wondering, why are homeopathic products regulated as drugs if
Speaker 1: they're at best water and at worst poison water. That's
Speaker 1: a little odd, isn't it. This all turns out to
Speaker 1: be thanks to a special law made just before World
Speaker 1: War Two. Here's Forbes. The nineteen thirty eight law was
Speaker 1: the brainchild of a U. S Senator, Royal Copeland, who
Speaker 1: happened to be a homeopath. Senator Copeland inserted language into
Speaker 1: a major food and drug law that declared homeopathic preparations
Speaker 1: to be drugs. It also allowed homeopaths themselves to maintain
Speaker 1: the official list of all these drugs, called the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia.
Speaker 1: Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse. Thanks to aggressive
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Speaker 1: to the normal review required of real drugs. Most importantly,
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Speaker 1: That's a I'm glad that that's just democracy good law
Speaker 1: knocking it out of the park again. That's the senator
Speaker 1: who's a homeopath says that we should treat them as
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Speaker 1: again using our our our dumb southern accents to make
Speaker 1: fun of these people when they're all based in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I just imagine them having us. Yeah. Well yeah, we
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Speaker 1: that's what it. That is really comfortable. I feel like
Speaker 1: somebody named ad just walked in. It's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: you just got here's the problem with your baby, bro.
Speaker 1: There's not enough Belladonna in it. You gotta get Okay.
Speaker 1: They call it Deadly Nightshade. But you know, like when
Speaker 1: you say sick and you mean something's good, that's the
Speaker 1: kind of deadly. It is bro bing. It's sick medicine.
Speaker 1: That's our new homeopathics of like sick medicine. Then nothing
Speaker 1: we do is a lie. Oh god, that's just destroyed
Speaker 1: my think we could get out of the podcast. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna. I think we could be millionaires sick medicine.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in another four years of American products,
Speaker 1: one of us at least could be the new Secretary
Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services. Yes, yeah, definitely Anderson. Well,
Speaker 1: Anderson would honestly be an improvement. Anderson will be the president,
Speaker 1: and we'll take all the fucking ship when it comes
Speaker 1: our way. Oh yeah, yeah, he gets impeached for letting
Speaker 1: a Russian dog dig in the yard or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know what a presidential crime. Anderson, President Anderson. Now, Billy, Wayne,
Speaker 1: I bet you're wondering what might the supposedly deluded homeopathic
Speaker 1: ingredients of this Toperson miracle pain cream be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's something great. It's Belladonna. Now, now, Billy,
Speaker 1: it's not just Belladonna. Of course, they mix in just
Speaker 1: a just a scoche of hilo derma. You know what
Speaker 1: helo derma is. It's helo monster venom. Okay, that seems
Speaker 1: good for paine. What what just acid tripping psychopath is
Speaker 1: just mixing ship. Well, he tested it on his kids.
Speaker 1: It was fine, So put it in the pills or
Speaker 1: the cream or whatever. I feel like they saw this
Speaker 1: product at like Whole Food, so they sell it all. Yeah. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: I wonder if this miracle product made of deadly nightshade
Speaker 1: and literal monster poison has a history of poisoning people
Speaker 1: and it just so happens. I found a two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen paper post on the National Institutes of Health website
Speaker 1: anti cuolinergic toxicity secondary to overdose of Toperson cream, a
Speaker 1: homeopathic medication. I'm gonna quote from that now. A forty
Speaker 1: year old man presented with family to the emergency department
Speaker 1: complaining of headache and blurry vision of one day's duration.
Speaker 1: His wife also noticed a changementation for two hours prior
Speaker 1: to presentation when he repeatedly asked the same questions and
Speaker 1: did not recognize family members. His past medical history included
Speaker 1: hypertension and dislipid m something. His daily medications were pravastatin,
Speaker 1: meadow floral enamel print, and non steroidal anti inflammatories from
Speaker 1: musculo skeletal pains, social history, and family history were non contributory.
Speaker 1: Two days prior to presentation, he had developed a severe
Speaker 1: pain in his left foot, which he treated with the Overdock,
Speaker 1: the counter to prison topical pain relief cream. He applied
Speaker 1: the cream liberally without respecting the recommended dosage. The exact
Speaker 1: quantity and frequency were unknown. No, that's like every dude, Well,
Speaker 1: if this is like, yeah, take two, I'll take four
Speaker 1: because I'm awesome. But normally your pain relief cream is
Speaker 1: gonna be light a cane or something like that, where like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you put too much light a Cane on your foot,
Speaker 1: it's whatever. If you're an adult, it's whatever. But he
Speaker 1: was putting too much HeLa Monster, Venom and Bella Donna
Speaker 1: on his foot, and that turns out to not be great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to HeLa Monster bought me like four or five.
Speaker 1: Is that good? You're really cutting out the middle man.
Speaker 1: I just I just I gotta turn my ankle. I've
Speaker 1: been saying for years, Billy, you were ahead of the
Speaker 1: pack by keeping that he lived HeLa Monster in your house.
Speaker 1: Just free and loose really has helped a lot. I've
Speaker 1: only been a hospital like four of her times. He's cool,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to announce my new product, just a
Speaker 1: HeLa Monster we shipped to your house in a box,
Speaker 1: good teething, good for foot pain, thousand dollars, no address.
Speaker 1: I will I will make sure HeLa monster finds you
Speaker 1: the no address stamped envelope in a thousand off. There
Speaker 1: will just be a large poisonous lizard in your house
Speaker 1: at some point, and you'll know that you're safe. Sick
Speaker 1: medicine was here. You know, it's weird with all these
Speaker 1: debates between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and the like
Speaker 1: about like should we have medicare for all? Should we
Speaker 1: have some sort of like hybrid plan. Why not just
Speaker 1: Helo monsters? Just just HeLa monsters and machetes all over
Speaker 1: the place, a HeLa monster in every house and a
Speaker 1: machete at every hand. That's my presidential platform. I think
Speaker 1: the country would get along a little better. I think
Speaker 1: I think we would solve We would have other problems
Speaker 1: than the partisan divide currently ship that we didn't foresee.
Speaker 1: I do think there would be some stuff pop up
Speaker 1: that I didn't see that one come. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we didn't think we got to stay active. That's true.
Speaker 1: Stay on your toes with a HeLa monster in the house,
Speaker 1: you drink a lot of water. Now, the good news
Speaker 1: is that this guy who overdosed on Toperson did survive UM.
Speaker 1: But his symptoms were at one point serious enough that
Speaker 1: his doctor's coded him for having a stroke, So maybe
Speaker 1: maybe stay away from Toperson. He spent some time to
Speaker 1: st ed and pissing himself in a hospital before the
Speaker 1: administration of IVY drugs was able to return him to
Speaker 1: baseline with suspected cause of his symptoms was belladonna poisoning.
Speaker 1: So we've been making fun of the HeLa monster thing,
Speaker 1: but they suspect it was actually yeah, when that's the
Speaker 1: best part of the medicine. No, the HeLa monster venom
Speaker 1: was actually all right. Thank god that was in Thank
Speaker 1: god that was in there. Really counteracted the belladonna. I'm
Speaker 1: still smart. You mix enough of the poisons in there.
Speaker 1: More is more. I will say that he and his
Speaker 1: family were lucky that he took the toe person and not,
Speaker 1: for instance, their infant child UM for obvious reasons. In
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, a seven year old Italian girl caught
Speaker 1: an ear infection her parents took her to a doctor
Speaker 1: who prescribed antibiotics, but they decided to consult a second opinion,
Speaker 1: and when with a homeopath instead, set ear infection spread
Speaker 1: to the girl's brain, killing her. Yes, yep, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what happens. The parents were convicted of aggravated manslaughter and
Speaker 1: given three months sentences in p isn't They attempted to
Speaker 1: justify their decision by citing that they were not anti
Speaker 1: medicine in general, just concerned about antibiotics, which is a
Speaker 1: wrinkle that makes this case frustrating. See The overprescription of
Speaker 1: of antibiotics is one of the largest problems in modern medicine.
Speaker 1: Over thirty percent of antibiotic prescriptions in the United States
Speaker 1: at least are believed to be unnecessary. This manifests in
Speaker 1: a few different ways. Antibiotics are often prescribed to people
Speaker 1: who don't need them due to mistakes and diagnosis, or
Speaker 1: a variety of other reasons, some of which boiled down
Speaker 1: to medical laziness. They're also prescribed in doses that far
Speaker 1: exceed with the patient actually needs, which can cause long
Speaker 1: term health issues and patients like die offs and gut
Speaker 1: bacteria or whatever. All of these very real examples of
Speaker 1: problems with antibiotic use mean that half informed consumers like
Speaker 1: these Italian parents wind up with an understanding that there's
Speaker 1: something vaguely problematic about how antibiotics are used in modern medicine,
Speaker 1: but not really understanding why. So when they go to
Speaker 1: a homeleopath who has already established a big part of
Speaker 1: the practices, they'll spend a lot more time talking with you.
Speaker 1: And doctors are very busy, they're usually often very often
Speaker 1: bad at talking to patients. That good bedside manager are
Speaker 1: very rare in this in it in my experience, and
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people's experience. So this
Speaker 1: doctor sits down and talks with them and tells them, no,
Speaker 1: you don't need antibiotics. Here's another way, and you know,
Speaker 1: antibiotics are vaguely problematics, so they go with the other way.
Speaker 1: Then their doctors, your infection goes out of control and
Speaker 1: she dies of ningitis. It's fun, It's super fucked up.
Speaker 1: It's the fucking vaccine ship too. It's the same, just
Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt and smart people sometimes they're like,
Speaker 1: well because of one time I have thee yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just we need more handsome doctors to have YouTube shows,
Speaker 1: but not to sell Doctor oz bullshit. To actually tell
Speaker 1: them what works and what doesn't we need we need.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm calling on you medical community, find us sexier
Speaker 1: doctors than doctor Oz to confront doctor Oz. It's like like,
Speaker 1: here's like to stop the danger of sexy nonsense. Door
Speaker 1: need X good doctor. Yes, it's the only thing that
Speaker 1: can say in his in their show is just called
Speaker 1: no no. And other doctors out there right now, maybe
Speaker 1: do more crunches. Maybe do more crunches, you know, I do.
Speaker 1: I one of my favorite things is to drop out
Speaker 1: a hospital and see what a doctor outside. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing. You gotta make a choice. There's just I mean,
Speaker 1: I get that there's a stress relief. I understand. It
Speaker 1: always makes me laughing, like that's someone's writing a fucking
Speaker 1: drama about him right now. I saw a book on
Speaker 1: the shelf of one of my very close friends as
Speaker 1: grandfather that I love the title of and I have
Speaker 1: not read yet, but I know from the title that's
Speaker 1: full of good medicine. Live long and die fast, which
Speaker 1: I do think is a good goal. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to live to ninety and then drop dead? Instantly,
Speaker 1: I want to live to ninety and then get shot
Speaker 1: by sniper that I don't even know. That's actually the best,
Speaker 1: and that Billy Wayne brings me on to my next
Speaker 1: grip for this episode, Snipe Edison the only medicine that's
Speaker 1: just a man with a scoped rifle, New Youth and Asia.
Speaker 1: So this is all terrible, but when it comes to
Speaker 1: infuriating stories of actual mal practice by homeopathic positions, nothing
Speaker 1: I have come across beats the case of Penelope Dingle.
Speaker 1: And because this is a tragic story, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: none of us to laugh at that last name. They're Australian,
Speaker 1: they can't help it. It's not their fault. It's like walla, walla,
Speaker 1: Sorry it's there. In February two three, Penelope was diagnosed
Speaker 1: with colorectal cancer. Her husband was a prominent toxicologist in
Speaker 1: Perth and the specific form of cancer she was diagnosed
Speaker 1: with was believed to be extremely treatable, but Miss Dingle
Speaker 1: did not opt for that treatment. She had a homeopathic doctor.
Speaker 1: She trusted, Miss Grayon, and Miss Grayan told her that
Speaker 1: she could much more safe. Miss her name was Miss
Speaker 1: that the most it's better than doctor yeah. Now, Miss
Speaker 1: Grahan told her that she could hand much more safely
Speaker 1: deal with her rectal cancer via, of course of homeopathic
Speaker 1: and natural remedies. Doctor Dingle claims he went along with
Speaker 1: his wife's wishes because he wasn't able to convince her
Speaker 1: that traditional medical treatment would be more effective than Miss
Speaker 1: Grayn's homeopathic medicine. He later said, Pinn had her mindset
Speaker 1: and it wasn't changeable. You argue with her. Actually what
Speaker 1: he said, Yeah, I mean he tried. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's also some some suggestions that maybe
Speaker 1: he was cut up in trying to like write a
Speaker 1: health book with them. It's it's a complicated story. I
Speaker 1: don't really know exactly. But for months, Penelope and Miss
Speaker 1: gray And had weekly appointments. But oddly enough, Penelope's cancer
Speaker 1: continue to get worse and worse. Sadly, this did not
Speaker 1: convince Penelope that something might be wrong. There's evidence that
Speaker 1: she and Miss gray And even convinced her husband to
Speaker 1: help them write a book about treating cancer naturally once
Speaker 1: she was cured. Dr Dingle later said penn was in
Speaker 1: awe of Francine. Francine's grayan and I felt that penn
Speaker 1: would have perhaps left me if I had criticized Francine.
Speaker 1: He claims that she was unwilling to listen to any
Speaker 1: medical biace that did not come from her homeopath. Pen
Speaker 1: repeatedly told me that Francine was convinced she could cure cancer.
Speaker 1: Near the end of two thousand three, Penelope dingles condition
Speaker 1: took a sharp turn for the worst, and she underwent
Speaker 1: emergency surgery to remove a bowel obstruction and save her life.
Speaker 1: Penelope remained confident in Francine's Gray And after this point
Speaker 1: up until a phone call in which her homeopath asked
Speaker 1: her to sign a letter freeing her from all future
Speaker 1: legal liability of Penelope died. Wow, yeah, like a great physician,
Speaker 1: Just like yeah, yeah, yeah. Now at this point Penelope
Speaker 1: started a question whether or not she now wait a second, yeah.
Speaker 1: Eventually she realized that she had been had by a
Speaker 1: con woman and wrote Francine's Gray And a furious and
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking letter and it she excoriated the homeopath for,
Speaker 1: among other things, ordering her to a shoe any pain
Speaker 1: medication in favor of homeopathic pain treatments that did not work. Quote,
Speaker 1: you told me many stories about your husband and his
Speaker 1: overreaction to pain. As I was also an areas, you
Speaker 1: advised me that, like him, I reacted to payment. You
Speaker 1: gave me a five dollar note with the word phantom
Speaker 1: written on it. You told me that my pain was
Speaker 1: a phantom product of my imagination. You described your own
Speaker 1: experience with sciatica and informed me that until I had
Speaker 1: experienced the sort of pain you'd had, then I would
Speaker 1: not know what real pain was. The majority of my pain,
Speaker 1: you informed me, was in my own mind. You saw
Speaker 1: me sobbing with pain during our contacts. One night, after
Speaker 1: my bowel obstructed, I called because I could not stand
Speaker 1: the agony, and your professional advice was go take a bath.
Speaker 1: I endured over a hundred and twenty hours of agony
Speaker 1: before I went against your advisement, used morphine, and got
Speaker 1: myself to a hospital in an ambulance. During the months
Speaker 1: you treated me, the hot water bottles you encouraged me
Speaker 1: to use as my main method of pain control burned
Speaker 1: my skin and ruptured my blood vessels. But my pain
Speaker 1: was so severe it felt like relief. My entire COXYX
Speaker 1: area is blue and purple. That's cool, huh it? God?
Speaker 1: Yeahs a nightmare and her housband, the fucking doctor. Her
Speaker 1: husband was a doctor. Yeah, Yo, dude, your trash bro.
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Sometimes you can't. He may have
Speaker 1: been trashed it also maybe that just sometimes you can't
Speaker 1: convince people when they get really roped in by it's
Speaker 1: like a religious thing, like that's a part of this,
Speaker 1: Like she believed in this. One believed this woman and
Speaker 1: then yeah, and that's what. I don't think the guy's bad.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the whole time he's like, I mean
Speaker 1: especially like your wife is dying of cancer and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: this woman makes me feel better. So there's a part
Speaker 1: of you that's like, okay, yeah, whatever we can do
Speaker 1: at this point. Fuck. And now he's probably like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill that lady is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: What happened panel will be. Dingle died from complications due
Speaker 1: to colorectal cancer in two thousand five because it got
Speaker 1: two worse. Yeah, it's believed she would have survived if
Speaker 1: she'd undertaken conventional treatment after diagnosis. The whole case was
Speaker 1: rather famous in Australia and resulted in a sizeable coroners inquest,
Speaker 1: but oddly enough, Francines. Bryan face no long term punishment
Speaker 1: as a result of her actions. As best I can tell,
Speaker 1: she's still a practicing homeopath because all she did was
Speaker 1: say don't don't, which is not illegal. Nope, you're just
Speaker 1: giving someone bad advice, which is in illegal. Thank god,
Speaker 1: we're all be in jail. Yeah, we would all be
Speaker 1: in jail trying to sell Snipe Edison. Yes. God, Now,
Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, after an infuriating tale like that of unspeakable tragedy,
Speaker 1: There's nothing that I like more than Machette Tennis guaranteed
Speaker 1: to cure your tennis elbow because like cures like and
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Speaker 1: We're going to be healed. We're gonna be healed. Is
Speaker 1: there before we do this? Is there any Melodonna in this? Oh?
Speaker 1: Shiploads Okay? I do everything in this room, and there's
Speaker 1: a HeLa monster loosen here somewhere to Alright, gentlemen, take
Speaker 1: your positions. All right, We've got our now rather battered
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Speaker 1: I stabbed it pretty hard. Actually, you should serve this
Speaker 1: time okay, yeah, try trying overhand. Yeah, that's that sounds good. Damn.
Speaker 1: That was really close to our first actual, our first
Speaker 1: actual hit. That was cool, and the dusk came out,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. That's Belladonna right there, high grade Belladonna.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. Oh almost, yeah almost.
Speaker 1: That was definitely our closest to Oh boy, this tape
Speaker 1: has seen better days, saying worse. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: do it from the side this time. You see it
Speaker 1: doesn't have an affrontage area when you do it that way,
Speaker 1: It's okay. That was we lost the case. Now there's
Speaker 1: added plastic all over the room for some mysterious reason.
Speaker 1: All right, Billy, what's your eyes? There's a pink Corvette
Speaker 1: down there, of course, because just to remind us that
Speaker 1: we're in Hollywood. Ye, well, Billy, that it. No, let's
Speaker 1: do one more, one more, because I think this one's
Speaker 1: really gonna break apart on this one. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah yeah, yeah, I've lived enough life. Just
Speaker 1: a reminder, everything we've done is approved by OSHA. No
Speaker 1: dogs were harm to the making of this podcast. Nope.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of plastic trapnel in the room, though,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to Yeah, yeah, stick that up on
Speaker 1: the soundboard, Billy, that will be fine. That'll make Danel
Speaker 1: happy when he comes in here another day or two. Well,
Speaker 1: this has been behind the bastards. You can find me
Speaker 1: at b w D tour dot com. That's got all
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Speaker 1: you you grab yourself an envelope, you put between five
Speaker 1: hundred and a thousand dollars in it, cash cash, You
Speaker 1: write either of both of our names and the names
Speaker 1: of this podcast on it, and at some point in
Speaker 1: the next year, there will be a HeLa monster, a
Speaker 1: machete or a baby's machete in your house, depending on
Speaker 1: what you right on the front inside your house, not
Speaker 1: like outside on the porch, inside you. That's the kind
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Speaker 1: a HeLa monster Will. That's true. That's true. That's so.
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