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Speaker 3: Leading up to draft.

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Speaker 4: We already have some fire out including AFC and NFC

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Speaker 4: But to the main event, it may not be a Sunday,

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Speaker 4: but we're gonna do our six pack, which is where

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Speaker 4: we each draft our three favorite bets. We're gonna do

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Speaker 4: it for NFC win totals.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: There's stayper action, Let's crack open the Sunday six.

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Speaker 3: Pack, all right?

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Speaker 4: Stuck, So I'm gonna go number one here with our

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be an under party. But before we get

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Speaker 2: into everything, you know, the thing that everyone's worrying about

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Speaker 2: thinking about is are you know, are these sports gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: So obviously it's an NFL podcast. There was some like

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Speaker 2: rumblings the last couple of days that made me a

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Speaker 2: Association today and it looks like there's gonna be no

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Speaker 2: preseason games. Any updated thoughts and or you know where

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Speaker 2: you stand for pessimism optimism With the season.

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Speaker 4: I put the odds around ninety percent of a season happening.

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Speaker 4: I still put it close to that now, just because

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Speaker 4: The fact that there's going to be no preseason games

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Speaker 3: Of, Okay, we'll give you the players what you want.

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Speaker 4: Let's just get this season started, and let's get it

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Speaker 4: You're missing out, dude, yo, betting the preseason wells every

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Speaker 4: year it's the Ravens. I was about to say, like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going with the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Me and my guy Matthew Friedman, who do the show

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Speaker 4: on Serious XM Saturday and Sundays, and obviously the Fantasy Pod.

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Speaker 4: We kind of have a philosophy that we go by

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Speaker 4: and it's went in doubt be against Dan Quinn, do

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Speaker 3: It's a good way to start off this NFC podcast.

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Speaker 4: The Atlanta Falcons. First of all, their win total seven

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Speaker 4: as huge underdogs. If you listen to the podcast, hopefully

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Speaker 4: And I think the fact that you now have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't disagree with you. I personally make it

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Speaker 2: play the under, but I would lean that side. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think there's way more questions than answers with this

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Speaker 4: You pointed out that they did kind of improve after

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Speaker 4: whatever it was with that defense, it took him half

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I am with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're losing Beasley, Clayborn truefon on three of your

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Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia Eagles under nine and a half. You know,

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Speaker 2: speaking of teams that didn't get better, I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: but the offensive line I don't think is as strong.

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Speaker 2: I still have questions about the receiving corps. Deshaun Jackson's

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Speaker 2: needs to be on the field to stretch the offense.

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Speaker 2: We saw what the offense looked like without him, but

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Speaker 2: Alshon Jeffery looks done. So I have questions about the offense,

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Speaker 2: and then specifically the defense. I know that the defensive

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Speaker 2: the top five four to three defensive tackles salary wise

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Speaker 2: and they are good against the run, but the defensive

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Speaker 4: And you know, he wasn't a priority for them, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, the Washington TVDS, the franchise formerly known as

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Speaker 4: Thou which shall not be named. They are just headed

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Speaker 3: They lost to the Giants twice.

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Speaker 4: Last year by a combined score of sixty five to

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Speaker 3: You have to play Cleveland in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: That's that's not easy. You have to win that game

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Speaker 4: I don't know how this team gets to even five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with you, by the way, that

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Speaker 2: new OC, new DC, new head coach. They're gonna go

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Speaker 2: to a new scheme on defensive four to three front.

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Speaker 2: That's the best thing I could say about the Redskins.

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Speaker 2: Their four man front could be scary. There's a ton

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Speaker 2: you know this year. What's gonna hurt that lack of

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Speaker 2: point nine, so I completely agree with you. I think

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Speaker 2: Trustway is back at punter. I used to say that

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Speaker 2: They're punting. That's never good when you're just saying that

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Speaker 4: I think you summed it up when you first started

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much what they have. They have pain, like

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Speaker 4: For the Redskins. Let me stop calling them the Redskins.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get out of the house. Like first we

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Speaker 4: it's like there's too much. Come on, Washington, get a

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Speaker 2: Second? All right? For my second pick, we said this

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Speaker 2: I project this right at four and a half. New

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Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons they wanted to move to

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Speaker 2: You know you're gonna have Haywan short back. You drafted

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Speaker 2: You're bringing in a new quarterback. These are all the

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Speaker 2: there's not much I really like about this team. And

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a quarterback driven leave. If you believe

436
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Speaker 2: in Teddy Bridgewater, you know, as a starting quarterback that

437
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: can make up for a lot of deficiencies in many

438
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Speaker 2: areas throughout the team, then maybe you like the Panthers.

439
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Speaker 2: I personally don't. Teddy Bridgewater is a very good backup

440
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Now, look the guy at all he

441
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: does is cover, but he doesn't make mistakes. He's not

442
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: gonna go down the field a lot. I mean, just

443
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: look at his average target length. But he's not gonna

444
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: lose you games. But he's also not going to really

445
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: win you games. And that's what I think the Panthers

446
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: would need with this roster this year. So you know,

447
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Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I mean there's questions on

448
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 2: the offensive line as well. Is a transition year for Carolina.

449
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: You get Joe Brady in coming in trying to rework

450
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Speaker 2: this offense. I just don't think Teddy Bridgewater is the

451
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Speaker 2: quarterback for it. Rework the defense, new head coach, new

452
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Speaker 2: culture change. So I think there's gonna be a lot

453
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Speaker 2: of growing pains. Maybe they start to figure stuff out

454
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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, but I'll keep hammering

455
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Speaker 2: this point home. Teams that I believe are going to

456
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Speaker 2: struggle early on are going to struggle longer into the

457
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Speaker 2: season than normal. Right, So a lot of times with

458
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Speaker 2: a preseason, with normal preparation, you might still struggle early

459
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Speaker 2: in the year, but you've been working out some of

460
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Speaker 2: the kinks in preseason and during the season. Well, now

461
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: you're going to have those struggles. That communication, defensive scheme changes,

462
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: all those issues are going to last longer into the year.

463
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Speaker 2: So there's not much I like about this Panthers team

464
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Speaker 2: transition year. I think that the coaching could be a

465
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Speaker 2: positive in the long run. We'll see hard to evaluate

466
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Speaker 2: the transition from college to the NFL. But give me

467
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Speaker 2: the under on the Panthers.

468
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Speaker 4: If I'm a listener out there, I would be paying

469
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Speaker 4: I would be paying attention to their weekly point spreads

470
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Speaker 4: because this is a bad team. This is a team

471
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Speaker 4: that you know as stuggy, you point out probably is

472
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Speaker 4: gonna win four to five games and not many more.

473
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Speaker 3: However, on a week to week.

474
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Speaker 4: Basis, because they are one of the weaker teams in

475
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Speaker 4: the league, I think their point spreads are gonna have

476
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Speaker 4: some value.

477
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Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, Teddy.

478
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Speaker 4: Bridgewater, holy does his cover now. Granted, the situations have

479
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 4: been different in Minnesota and then in New Orleans, but

480
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: for his career, Teddy Bridgewater is twenty eight and seven

481
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Speaker 4: against the spread as a starter.

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Speaker 3: That is absurd. That is ridiculous.

483
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Speaker 4: That that means that not only do we are we

484
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Speaker 4: probably going to underestimate the Panthers just because they're a

485
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Speaker 4: terrible team and the lines tend to get inflated when

486
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Speaker 4: you have those kind of teams, but Teddy Bridgewater has

487
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Speaker 4: consistently been underestimated. So I think there will be value

488
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Speaker 4: from week to week betting on the Panthers to cover.

489
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Speaker 4: But yeah, ultimately, I don't think going to win many games.

490
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Speaker 4: I just think they will. I think they'll be a

491
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Speaker 4: profitable bet. I think we'll be sitting here during the

492
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Speaker 4: season talking about the Panthers a lot on our Sunday

493
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Speaker 4: six packs.

494
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Speaker 2: Yep. I agree. One other things I'll bring up is

495
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Speaker 2: This is hard to project, but it could only work

496
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Speaker 2: in your favor for unders just like it. You know,

497
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: injuries to quarterbacks can this year, in particular with the

498
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: expanded playoff, right, you're gonna have an additional team to

499
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Speaker 2: get in the playoff, a seventh team, maybe a seven

500
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: and nine team, more likely eight and eight, nine and seven.

501
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Speaker 2: But what that means to me is potentially you have

502
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Speaker 2: more teams still alive at the end of the year,

503
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Speaker 2: which means that a team teams at the bottom of

504
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the barrel might not get to pick up as many

505
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: cheap wins as normal. You're gonna have a lot more

506
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: teams still thinking that all right, we're mathematically alive. That

507
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: could hurt the teams at the bottom of the barrel.

508
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Speaker 2: Just wanted to throw that out there. Where are you

509
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Speaker 2: going for your third pick?

510
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Speaker 4: For my third pick, I am going to Detroit and

511
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Speaker 4: I am going to bet on the Lions to win

512
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Speaker 4: fewer than six and a half games. I think they

513
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: are yet again a six ish underwin team. I think

514
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: they're one of the poorer teams in the league. And

515
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: a lot of people will say, okay, last year they

516
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 4: were solid with Matthew Stafford. But if you look at

517
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: matt Patricia in his two years, he's nine to fourteen

518
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: and one with Stafford as the starter, that's still at

519
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 4: three to ninety six win percentage. That still equates to

520
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 4: about six point three wins, so closer to six than

521
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Speaker 4: to seven. So I'm not feeling Detroit this year. I

522
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: think this is another team. And one of the trends

523
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: I like for unders is, you know, beyond kind of

524
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Speaker 4: going looking at the top and taking the teams with

525
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Speaker 4: the double digit win totals and just betting under. But

526
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Speaker 4: another trend I like is I think the teams tend

527
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Speaker 4: to get that tend to get inflated are the ones

528
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: with solid quarterbacks and bad defenses. Because as football fans analysts,

529
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Speaker 4: we tend to think about offense first, and we look

530
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Speaker 4: at a team with Matt Ryan and or a team

531
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Speaker 4: with Matthew Stafford and Detroit and we say they can

532
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 4: only be so bad. But in reality, I think Detroit

533
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Speaker 4: this is another defense that just doesn't have quite enough

534
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Speaker 4: long term. I think getting Jeffrey Okuda, you know, in

535
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: the top five at cornerback out of Ohio State, was

536
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: a positive and will probably be an upgrade on Darius

537
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: Slay sooner than Laiter because Slay was starting to fall off,

538
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: but still not an ideal situation to have a defense

539
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: that is not extremely talented and that has some young

540
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Speaker 4: pieces that they're going.

541
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Speaker 3: To have to rely on.

542
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Speaker 4: And another thing I want to point out, just more generally,

543
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: is that a lot of people, especially in fantasy, but

544
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Speaker 4: I think more generally just in terms of NFL analysis,

545
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: are saying, hey, the lack of all season is going to.

546
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Speaker 3: Hurt the offenses.

547
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Speaker 4: But I actually think it's gonna hurt the defenses even

548
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: more because the one thing about offense is you still

549
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: have an advantage in the fact that you're an offense.

550
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Speaker 3: You're on the offensive.

551
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: Defenses have to react and there are going to be

552
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Speaker 4: certain players that you just can't defend, whether they a

553
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 4: lot of practice time or not. Like guys that are

554
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: just fast, you're not going to be able to defend.

555
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: You can have simple concepts on offense that an unprepared

556
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 4: defense is not going to be ready for. A defense

557
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: with a lack of talent is not going to be

558
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: ready for, and so kind of the same. The the

559
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 4: theme with Atlanta and Detroit, two of the weaker defenses

560
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: in the entire league. I don't think that their quarterback

561
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: play is going to be able to make up for it,

562
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: and Detroit with Matt Patricia hasn't figured it out yet.

563
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: Even with Stafford in the lineup, I don't think DeAndre

564
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: Swift is going to necessarily help the bottom line for

565
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Detroit in terms of you know, a running back is

566
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: not one of the things that usually impacts a team's

567
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 4: chances of winning or losing a great deal, you know. So, Detroit,

568
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: by the way, has been the worst team in the

569
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Speaker 4: league over the last since Barry Sanders retired, and pretty

570
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 4: much every rushing metric imaginable. And you know why if

571
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: you look at what Detroit's defense has been pretty much

572
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: every year since Barry Sanders retired, they've always had one.

573
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: The worst defense is saved for a year here or there.

574
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Speaker 3: So I think the defense is still going to be

575
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Speaker 3: a problem.

576
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Speaker 4: And I think this is a six win team in

577
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Speaker 4: a division where you have three teams that I think

578
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: are in a whole different tier than Detroit.

579
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Speaker 3: You have Minnesota, Green Bay, and Chicago. I think those

580
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: teams are duking it out.

581
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: None of those teams are exceptional, but they're all solid

582
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: teams that have better defenses.

583
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Speaker 3: Than Detroit, and you know, at least.

584
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Speaker 4: On offense, can can compete with Detroit if they're not

585
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: better on offense as well. So I think it's a

586
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: situation where Detroit can possibly go as bad as one

587
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: in five or zero to six in the division and

588
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: just don't see them as as clear favorites in many

589
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: games outside of that either.

590
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Speaker 2: By the way, this is your therapeic. I'm shocked that

591
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: you didn't have the Cardinals over.

592
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't do over. I hardly ever do. That's fair.

593
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an interesting question with what is

594
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: the lack of preseason, lack of preparation, who is it

595
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: going to favor? You know, I tend to agree with you

596
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: with receivers in that you can still work on your

597
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: timing with a quarterback in without preseason games, right, you

598
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: get your route tree down, you get your time, you

599
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: know your play calling where it could hurt. And I

600
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 2: talked with this a lot as rookie quarterbacks and just

601
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: not being able to read different NFL defenses right, just

602
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: the speed isn't there, Like, that's what preseason helps with

603
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. Also, offensive line chemistry, continuity, That's where I

604
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: think it really if you have a lot of new

605
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Speaker 2: starters on an offensive line and a rookie quarterback, that's

606
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Speaker 2: where I think the lack of prep parts. I agree

607
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: with you. I think that people are just assuming that

608
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: it only hurts the offense. It's definitely way more nuanced

609
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: than that.

610
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: So it's like, what happens.

611
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Speaker 4: Let's say, how does that lack of preparation manifest for

612
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: a quarterback or o line. It's probably a sack or

613
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: a ten yard penalty, right, something like that. You play

614
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: another down, how does the lack of preparation manifest itself

615
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: on defense? A coverage bust? What does that lead to

616
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: a seventy five yard touchdown? So there's just more downside

617
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: with lack of preparation on defense, you know, acknowledging the

618
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: fact that both sides are gonna hurt.

619
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Speaker 3: They're just less of a margin for error. And even

620
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Speaker 3: the tackling.

621
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Speaker 4: I think the tackling on defense, you know, you're not

622
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: in there, you're not in pads all summer.

623
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Speaker 3: Now you had to go out and hit people.

624
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be a struggle, and I

625
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: just think people aren't acknowledging that.

626
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Speaker 2: But but yeah, yeah, the one thing I will say

627
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: is if you have a newer quarterback and they struggle early,

628
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: what happens is you start to lose your confidence, you

629
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: second guess yourself. That's what you really want to look

630
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: out for as well. That's where I want to really

631
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: watch for, because it's not as much I know my

632
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: receiver is gonna go here or here based on the safety.

633
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: But if you're not reading that all right, this guy's

634
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: dropping back in his zone. This is more man and

635
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: that you start seeing ghosts, then that's where it's trouble.

636
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I completely agree with you, am Sam Darnold.

637
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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's I was thinking the same thing. I was like, Yeah,

638
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: still Darnold is not getting better this year.

639
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you missed the first episode of Jets Under,

640
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: you know the argument for the lines and you'll hear

641
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: this a lot is they were oh and eight without Stafford,

642
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: and they were three four and one with them, and

643
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: they could have been like six and two. They lost

644
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: the flute game of the Chiefs flute game to the Packers.

645
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: But I don't see this team. I think this team

646
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: could potentially be better on defense in the future, but

647
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't think overall they got better still questions about

648
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: the right side of the offensive line of I tie signing.

649
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't get it. But you know, the defensive line,

650
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: they still don't get pressure. They lose what snacks Harrison

651
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: A'shawn Robinson, linebackers a lot to be desired and we'll

652
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Speaker 2: find out. You know, it's this is they signed a

653
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: lot of Patriots in the offseason. I mean, they're gonna play.

654
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a man heavy team under Patricia. You know,

655
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: if Trufont and Akuda can come in and just be

656
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: lockdown man corners or defense could be a lot better.

657
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna happen right away with Akuda,

658
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: and I don't see the consistency yet with Trufont. So yeah,

659
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: the one thing and I make the seven point oh,

660
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: which is where it is. So I don't see any

661
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: value either way, which which the tough part about for

662
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: me is I don't know who I believe in in

663
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: this division. It's like if any one of these teams

664
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: locks out at four and two or five and one

665
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: in the division, would it shock me? No. So that's

666
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: that's what's would keep me off the lines. But I

667
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: can't disagree with you ever going with an under. All right,

668
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: So from my third and final pick, I am going

669
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: with the Los Angele Are they still the Los Angeles Rams?

670
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: Or's a Saint Louis? Is it Vegas? Is it Washington?

671
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Noone's gonna have fans this year, so that doesn't really matter.

672
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll say, I don't know if the

673
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Rams had fans anyway. So but look, I'm taking the

674
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Rams under. I have this number, so it's under eight

675
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: and a half. I make the seven point six. If

676
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: you listen to the podcast last year, I mean you

677
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: know that I hate golf. I mean the one good

678
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: thing is maybe golf there's no fans, so Sean McVay

679
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: just tells him exactly what to do every play the

680
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: entire season. That helps him. I didn't even think of that,

681
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: but maybe. But I hate their offensive line. They're this

682
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: team is so cash strapped too, and that's because of

683
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: like the golf sign. I mean, you knew that McVeigh

684
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: was just telling him how to what to do, like

685
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: I could have came in a mid quarterback, and I

686
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: mean they just ruined their team because of this. You know,

687
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: three new Corton, a lot of changes across the board,

688
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: not great in this season. Hate the offensive line with

689
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: all of my heart. I mean the offensive line is

690
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: just dreadful. They bring everyone back, but I mean Whitworth

691
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: is fifty years old. He's fallen off of the cliff.

692
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. I haven't seen on the

693
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: right side. Interior offensive line is a disaster. Why is

694
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: this so important because you have Jared Goff as your quarterback?

695
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: You don't have you know, offensive line is obviously important,

696
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: but it's less important when you have and that's why

697
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: you have to look at sack numbers with a grain

698
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: of salt. But when you have pressure numbers Lamar Jackson,

699
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson, you can compensate for some weaknesses

700
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: in the offensive line. Garrett Goff is, you know, statuesque,

701
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: and it takes him so long to get rid of

702
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: the ball. And if you just look at his numbers

703
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: when he's under pressure, they are hard. The offensive line

704
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: didn't approve. I mean last year their their past block

705
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: win rate went from seventy five percent to fifty six percent.

706
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Last year. Defense they lose what they their two best

707
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: sack players. They're leading tackle the last two years. They're

708
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: basically replaced. Seeing their five ho's heavily used players last year,

709
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say best. They have that man in the

710
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: middle in Aaron Donald, but you know Littleton, Roby, Coleman,

711
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Clay Matthews, foul Or Weddle, So they're all gone. New

712
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in heavy, heavy defensive back guy. So you're

713
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of three safety looks. I don't

714
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: necessarily buy their safeties. You're gonna maybe move Troy Hill

715
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: to slot. I don't necessarily see that working out, So

716
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: questions all of us. Dude's obviously, if Aaron Donald Brockers

717
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: came back, that's great, but where else on the defense

718
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: will be? Okay? I was the tenth best across the

719
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: NFL last year. I still think it's now gonna be

720
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: like a middle of the pack with Aaron Donald still

721
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: probably dominating. But hate golf, hate the offensive line, tons

722
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: of coaching changes, and uh, the schedule isn't easy. But

723
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: I just there's a lot that's going to go wrong

724
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: with this team, and it all starts with golf and

725
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: the contract to golf.

726
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 4: Wade Phillips has gone too right from defensive course, Yeah,

727
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: that's right for me, that's big for me at wayde Phillips.

728
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: You know, if you've read my breakdowns week to week

729
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: in our Action Network betting guys, anytime we're talking about

730
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 4: the Rams, I almost always bring up Wade Phillips because

731
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: I think he really is one of the best defensive

732
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: coordinators in the league.

733
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: So he moves on. It scares me.

734
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: I think of all the bets who chose, I think

735
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: this one scares me or really is the only one

736
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: that scares me, because I think the Rams had a

737
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: pretty bad season last year. They couldn't figure out San Francisco,

738
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: which to exactly your point, they couldn't handle pressure, but

739
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: they still went nine and seven, and they're thirty three

740
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 4: and fifteen, and Sean mcvays three years as head coach,

741
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: they've never won fewer than nine games. So teams like

742
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: that it just kind of scares me. It's kind of

743
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: like Seattle where every year their win total hover is

744
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: usually like eight and a half, nine, you know whatever,

745
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: And it's like, this team never wins fewer than nine games.

746
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: With Russell Wilson, realistically, you project the Rams for about

747
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: eightish wins because and would you say that you had

748
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: him at seven point six. That's realistically from the numbers.

749
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 4: They're in a tough division. I think Arizona got better.

750
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: San Francisco is still good, Seattle is good just because

751
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: of Russell Wilson will always be I think, on the

752
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: plus side in terms of you know how you're rating them.

753
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: But it does scare me a little to bet against

754
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: a team that has won nine or more games and

755
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: every year with their head coach. I think the plan

756
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: seems to be to just mitigate this lack of offensive

757
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: line with entirely focused passing game on the short and

758
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: intermediate areas. I think that's why you saw Higbee go

759
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: crazy over the last five weeks and Brandon Cooks got

760
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: phased out, even like it wasn't just injuries, Brandon Cooks

761
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: was pretty much phased out of that offense.

762
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: I think that's because you.

763
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: Also didn't have any time to get it to them.

764
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. They can't get the ball

765
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: down field.

766
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: So Van Jefferson that that pick because I think that

767
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: the fact that they went with two skill players in

768
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: the second round was.

769
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: A head scratcher to me and a lot of people.

770
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: And the more I thought about it, the Van Jefferson

771
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: pick the wide receiver out of Florida. That pick is

772
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: probably a little more indicative a spot where they could

773
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: have gone O line or to address the O line,

774
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: and they go with a wide receiver. They already have

775
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: Josh Reynolds, but Jefferson is a great route runner guy

776
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: in a short to intermediate area. That combined with Higbee's emergence,

777
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 4: and in kind of drafting cam Akers, Gurley was terrible

778
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: in the pass game last year, I think Acres will

779
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: be better. It just tells me that they're going to

780
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 4: try to mitigate the O line with a super quick,

781
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: hitting passing attack. We know they could do it with

782
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: Cup and Woods. It will remain to be seen if

783
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: it can be effective for the entire season. It remains

784
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: to be seen if they can. You know it could

785
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: be effective against San Francisco, But I think that's going

786
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 4: to decide it. If they can't, if they go oher

787
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: and too against San Francisco again, if they can't figure

788
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: out how to beat the Niners, it's gonna be tough

789
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: for them to get to nine wins because the division

790
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: is pretty good.

791
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, but the one the one thing I'll say

792
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: about Cooks though, is that he was getting phased out

793
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: of the offense because they enough time. But how much

794
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: and I maybe I want to go back and look

795
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: at look at some some of the RAMS games last

796
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: year for this, how much was he still having an

797
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: impact on the defense out of just respect? Right? So

798
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: without that threat, is it does it become a lot

799
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: easier for a defense to say, fuck it, I don't

800
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: worry about anyone beating me deep and now you have

801
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: defenses that know basically what you're gonna do. So how

802
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: much there's just that threat or presence on the field

803
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: and not them not having that this year unless my

804
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: man Greg Dortch, I think they signed Greg Dortch comes

805
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: in and whow's the.

806
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: NFL the most electrifying player in college football?

807
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: Guess who Greg Torch? Understand? Greg Dortch is the big

808
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: play guy.

809
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: Dors beats the putter down the middle.

810
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 5: It's Dorch and he's done touchdown the magition that has

811
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 5: done it again, the Breg.

812
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: Dorch just something else. Don't forget about Greg Dorch. Oh good?

813
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: How much does that impact their offense is one of

814
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: the questions that I would have.

815
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think so.

816
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: I think it used to have an impact like that's

817
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 4: because they had the same kind of player in there

818
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: before this, Sammy Watkins. They've always had that kind of guy,

819
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: and it's a specific role in Sean mcvray's system where

820
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: you're isolated and yeah, your job is to draw coverage.

821
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: But what ended up happening was exactly what you kind

822
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 4: of said. Teams stopped respecting that, and Goff still couldn't

823
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: get the ball to Cooks even in like single coverage

824
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: because he didn't have enough time. So it seems like

825
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 4: Sean McVay pivoted to you know what, this kind of

826
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: style of offense with using that that deep threat to

827
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: keep the defense honest isn't working for us. We need

828
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 4: just another guy that GoF can actually throw to, because

829
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 4: essentially what happened was Brandon Cooks was like Andre Patton,

830
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: you know at points, you know, the guy in the

831
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: Charges that Philip Rivers never threw to last year. Like, hey,

832
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: that's what That's what Brandon Cooks ended up being for

833
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: large portions of games. And I think ultimately they just

834
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: needed as many targets for GoF to to throw to

835
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 4: as possible. So now it's like, okay, we have five

836
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: options on every play to get to get the ball

837
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: out too, And that's that's what they're kind of prioritizing

838
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: over the line, which is kind of a head scratcher,

839
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: But that's what I saw with, you know, kind of

840
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: the the the offense weight last year with the emergence

841
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: of Higbee and then the drafting of Jefferson. Because if

842
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: I think Van Jefferson, how much is is he gonna

843
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: be in terms of sheer talent different from Josh Reynolds.

844
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: Probably not much, but he's a different type of guy,

845
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: a guy, a pro ready guy who's a route runner.

846
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: Why would you draft him in a second round when

847
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 4: you already have a Josh Reynolds and if you weren't

848
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: kind of changing up the style in philosophy, that's just

849
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: kind of my my take on on the situation.

850
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the Rams benefit the most from no crowd.

851
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: With Nickveigh talking to Yeah, that's a great.

852
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: Point, like but yeah, because I remember that in granted

853
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: they won this game flucally, but that game always comes

854
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: to mind in in New Orleans. I think it was

855
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: where GoF was just like head on his helmet, couldn't

856
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: hear anything.

857
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: He relies on that with Sean mcvah, who knows.

858
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe all these Zoom meetings actually are helping golf too,

859
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: because that's that's what he needs. He seems like a

860
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: guy who gets rattled once he goes out on the

861
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: field and has to put this.

862
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: So maybe just.

863
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: Taking a lot in calm, relaxed off season, no defensive

864
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: players taunting him every time he makes a bad throw

865
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: on his own team, maybe maybe it helps him.

866
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.

867
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: I had an MVP ticket on GOSP last year. Oh

868
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: man A was that a waste of money? So yeah,

869
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: that's that. That was a good discussion there. That was

870
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: our Sunday six pack. Just to recap, I have the

871
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons under seven and a half, the Redskins under five,

872
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: and the Detroit Lions under six and a half. Stuck

873
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: went with the Philadelphia Eagles under nine and a half,

874
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers under five and a half, and the

875
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: Rams under eight and a half. And that is going

876
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: to do it for our Sunday six pack. And now

877
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: it's time for our weekly coaches pep talk, and this

878
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: one comes to us from John Goodman from the nineteen

879
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: eighty four film Revenge of the Nerds and Sean mcmayd

880
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: of a nerdy guy in a good way, in a

881
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: good way. So we're gonna dedicate this one to Sean

882
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: McVay and the Rams. If Sean McVay gets his revenge,

883
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: then maybe Stucky's bet doesn't hit.

884
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: But if he doesn't, look out.

885
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 5: When you were a baby in your crib, your father

886
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: looked down at you.

887
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: He had but one home. Someday my son will grow

888
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: to be a man.

889
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: Well look at you now, you.

890
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: Just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds.

891
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: Nerds.

892
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: Well, if I was you, I'd do something about it.

893
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: I would get up and redeem myself in the eyes

894
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 5: of my father, my maker, and my coach. For let's

895
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: get those nerds nod.

896
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, we wait for it.

897
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: All right, there was our coaches pep talk, and now

898
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna get into our mailbag segment. We're also gonna

899
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: talk about some of the teams that we didn't mention

900
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 4: in any other segment after that and the best of

901
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: the rest. But before we continue asking you guys, are

902
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: we loved listeners to again head to Apple Podcasts and

903
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Speaker 4: give us a positive review, give us a five star rating,

904
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: and let us know what you think the Washington franchise

905
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: should be renamed, and you can win a.

906
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Speaker 3: Free Action Network hat.

907
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: And if you are not an Apple or iPhone user,

908
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Speaker 4: I should say, you are.

909
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Speaker 3: Still eligible to win.

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00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: All you have to do is call our bat be

911
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Speaker 4: top line five seven five six' five five six to

912
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 4: six four and tell us that you're entering the. Contest

913
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: tell us what you think The washington franchise should be.

914
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Renamed do it in sixty seconds or Last please no longer.

915
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: Voicemails it's not that kind of, thing but you will

916
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 4: be eligible to win The Action network.

917
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: Hat so holler at.

918
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: Us let's get into our mailbag. Segment AND i want

919
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: to start this one. OFF i know a lot of

920
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: people have been asking you a couple of questions. Stuck

921
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: the first ONE i want to talk about all the

922
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: top is just to kind of get it out of the,

923
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: way because some people might be wondering when you have

924
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: a win total and you're betting win, totals and there's

925
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: different juice at, times so maybe there's a minus one

926
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: twenty or a plus one ten instead of the standard

927
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: minus one ten. Juice how do you calculate how much

928
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 4: juice a half a win is. Worth for, example how

929
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: do you differentiate, between, say and over seven point five

930
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: wins at minus one forty versus an over eight wins

931
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: at plus one.

932
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: Hundred, yeah it's a great, question and a lot of

933
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: people some people have differing points of view on. THIS

934
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: i was going to go into a whole ramble about

935
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: and about the, math But i'll keep it. SIMPLE a

936
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: good rule of thumb for me at least others some

937
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: say will be. More is about fifty cents is what

938
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: a half of wind is? Worth so over seven and

939
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: a half minus one forty or over eight plus one. Hundred,

940
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: well in that, CASE i would prefer to lay one

941
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: forty at seven and a half because BECAUSE i think

942
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: that a half of win is worth more than the forty. Six,

943
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: now if it's thirty, cents definitely do it forty. CENTS

944
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: i would personally do it fifty. Cents you might want

945
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: to choose the lower juice because you're locking up your.

946
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Money you have to consider that as, well so the

947
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: amount you have to put. Out but generally, speak it's

948
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: about fifty. Cents the other thing seven and a half and.

949
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: Eight Now i'm going over seven a. HALF i think

950
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: the number has, value and NOW i win it eight

951
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: instead of. Push so those are some of the, Considerations

952
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: but about fifty cents in general is HOW i think

953
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: about what a win is worth in THE.

954
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: Nfl think about it the same way if you ever

955
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: bet a player prop or anything like. That it's like

956
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: bet the easier number in general to get over In.

957
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: West the juice is just absolutely ridiculous to you, because,

958
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: like like you, said if you're talking about the difference

959
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: between over seven and a half and over eight is

960
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: it's not just some.

961
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: Juice and you know what's the fifty.

962
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: Cents it's, like now you're talking ABOUT i can win

963
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 4: at eight VERSUS i have TO i can win it,

964
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: NINE i have To now the team needs to win it.

965
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Nine you, know that's a whole nother win that they

966
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: have to you, know pull. Off so what's the easier

967
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: way for my bet to. Hit it's gonna be that

968
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: seven and a, half even if it is juiced. Up

969
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: and that's the. Thing the books are trying to juice

970
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 4: these things up to dissuade you from betting the. NUMBER

971
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 4: a lot of times you're still usually better off taking

972
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: the juice again unless it gets you, know beyond like

973
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: a fifty cent. Difference as you, said as you mentioned

974
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: another question stuff THAT i know you've been wanting to

975
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: talk about a.

976
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: Lot what is going to be the effect of home.

977
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Field advantage quantitatively in terms of the numbers or you,

978
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: know if there are no fans or limited fans in the.

979
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: Stands, yeah this is the million dollar question in the.

980
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: Offseason generally, speaking home field aveagles is again not equal

981
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: for all. Teams but, historically if you look in the,

982
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: nineties the early two thousands across the border is worth

983
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: about three. Points, well since then it's trending down to

984
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: about two and a. Half WHAT i think has changed

985
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: is teams are now smarter about. Traveling just like you

986
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: used to be able to just blindly fade teams coming

987
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: from like The west coast to The east, coast not

988
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: really a thing. Anymore of the markets obviously also price that,

989
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: in but teams are just becoming a lot smarter about.

990
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: Travel the travel accommodations are, Better SO i think that

991
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: that's part of. It it's it's going down across the.

992
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: Board even last. YEAR i, mean if you look at

993
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: home teams we talked with this all, YEAR i, mean

994
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: they were horrible against the. Spread they only won about

995
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: like fifty one percent of the games, overall but over

996
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: the last three four years it's like fifty four. Percent

997
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: historically it was like fifty eight, percent so it's definitely going.

998
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: Down so it's if you assume around two and a half,

999
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: points WHAT i think this year you have you have

1000
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: to figure out this, year, right there's still, travel there's

1001
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: still familiarity with your with your settings and your. Routine

1002
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: there's still going to be a home field. Advtage but

1003
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: how much was the crowd? Worth it's a really good.

1004
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Question It so one of the arguments is it's harder

1005
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: to run the ball if you are a road. Team

1006
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: offensive line can't hear the snap, count they don't get

1007
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: off the ball as. Much if you look at the

1008
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: stats LIKE, epa it's, true but if you look at

1009
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: false start, stats it's not. True so there's a lot

1010
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: of mystery there and how much it's actually. Worth you

1011
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: also have the ref, bias, right it's only natural for

1012
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: a ref and it's gonna be maybe one big call

1013
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: a game that could be a field goal, here a

1014
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: field goal, there lead to a scoring drive. Take it's

1015
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: just natural for a ref to CALL pi for the

1016
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: home team's way swallow their. Whistle the crowd is booing

1017
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: because you've called a, hold maybe you don't call the hold.

1018
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Again refs are also getting. Better this is one of

1019
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: the reasons home field is decreasing because of there's also a.

1020
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: Replay THE nfl is trying to hold refs more. Accountable

1021
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: that's one of the REASONS i don't feel starting to

1022
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: diminish as. Well SO i personally think it's like one

1023
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: and a half across the. Board some a lot will

1024
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: say one point seventy five is what it's gonna be

1025
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: worth this, Year but then you have to throw in

1026
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: how difficult is it going to be to travel with

1027
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: all these, restrictions what you're worried about with. Testing that's

1028
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: so maybe it's not as drastic of a drop off

1029
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: AS i originally. Thought there's you, know there's alvious weather

1030
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: too that's gonna play a. Role there's altitude In, denver

1031
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: so there's still these one. Offs but you, know playing

1032
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: In Kansas city Or, Baltimore seattle that fans is gonna

1033
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: be a lot easier for an opposing, team especially if

1034
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: You're Jared. Goff SO i have it around one and

1035
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: a half points as a baseline with it being a

1036
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: one point, Drop but there's a lot to consider in

1037
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: a lot we're gonna learn in the first couple of.

1038
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: Weeks do you think the books are gonna kind of

1039
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: institute that that similar, Number, like do you think they're

1040
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 4: gonna go to like two or you think they're gonna

1041
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: keep it standard until we get more.

1042
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: Data, YEAH i think that they're gonna be around, two

1043
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: is from What i've seen. Now when lines first came,

1044
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: OUT i tweeted, out look hit the The dolphins over.

1045
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: Seven there was a couple other, games The cardinal's over,

1046
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: ten The browns over, ten these games that were over key.

1047
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: Numbers that's where it's really gonna. Matter because if it's

1048
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: the difference between nine and, nine and you, know eight

1049
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: and a half and nine and a, half whether you

1050
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: have home field right or, wrong you, know it does still,

1051
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: matter but it doesn't matter as much it's the difference

1052
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: between ene and a half and ten of. That so

1053
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: around the key, numbers having home field advantage, right that's

1054
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: what it's going to really. Matter, WELL i think the biggest,

1055
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: Implication SO i think the books might be a little

1056
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: high on home field early, on but it's the market

1057
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: is corrected itself a little bit and.

1058
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: Stuff they're a partway of division winners for THE. Nfc

1059
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: i'd go With seattle plus two to twenty five their

1060
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: win totals nine and a. Half In Tampa bay at

1061
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: plus one, sixty that would be a seven hundred and

1062
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: forty five dollars payout on one hundred dollar, Bet so

1063
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: you win eight forty five if that parway. Hits and

1064
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: the REASON i Like seattle combined With Tampa bay IS

1065
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: i Think San francisco got a little bit. Worse seattle's

1066
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: always in the conversation With Russell, wilson and In Tampa,

1067
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: bay you now have a team with a quarterback that

1068
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 4: can compete With Drew brees And Tom, brady and you

1069
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: have a defense that was top five And. Dvoa both

1070
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: of these teams have win totals of nine and a.

1071
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: Half so The vegas models are still projecting, them and

1072
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 4: as AM, i as you, know some of the better

1073
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: teams in the league certainly capable of winning their.

1074
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: Division so that be the par way THAT i would go.

1075
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 4: With if you really want to kind of get, crazy

1076
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: you want to throw in a third team or you

1077
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: want to replace Either seattle Or Tampa.

1078
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: Bay maybe you're not feeling.

1079
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: It think About chicago at plus four to twenty five

1080
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: because stuck you hit it. Earlier THIS Nfc, north there's

1081
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: not really a standout. Anymore The packers went thirteen and

1082
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: three last, year but as we both, know they were

1083
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1084
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: LUCKY i believe Their pythagora and win total was nine

1085
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: and a half or something like, that so they grossly.

1086
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: Overachieved may have gotten worse in the, offseason at least

1087
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: for the current for not for the, future but maybe

1088
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: for the.

1089
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: Current minnesota probably got worse.

1090
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: Losing their offensive, coordinator Losing Stefan, diggs and losing some

1091
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: key pieces in the. Secondary So chicago twenty to twelve

1092
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: Under Matt, naggi even with the disaster they had last

1093
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 4: year eight and, eight at least now they got two

1094
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that they can kind of go back and forth

1095
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 4: if if one is messing. Up so if you want

1096
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: to get, crazy throw In chicago at plus four twenty,

1097
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: five and all of a, sudden you're talking about over

1098
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: a grand payout on a one hundred dollar.

1099
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: Bet bears so many voices in the ear whoever's going

1100
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: to be quarterback another offensive, coordinator new quarterbacks, coach new

1101
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: passing game, Coordinator naggie calling the. PLAY i, mean it's

1102
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 2: just a. Mess and the, defense they've lost so many

1103
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: good defensive backs over the last couple of. Years that

1104
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: has to catch up to. Them packers nine to one

1105
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: in one possession games last. Year we know how well they.

1106
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: RAN i don't know if they can stop the. Run,

1107
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 2: still The packers are going to Be they Have Aaron

1108
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: rodgers still around at eight to nine win. Team if

1109
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: they get, lucky they'll win a little. More if they,

1110
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: don't they'll win a little bit. Less The seahawks the

1111
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: enigma of THE. Nfl what were? They ten and two

1112
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: in one possession, games two and zero in? Overtime offensive

1113
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: line is a. Mess what's going on with Dunbar quarner

1114
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: and his criminal. CASES i don't. Know the defense has many,

1115
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: questions but It's Russell wilson and he's just gonna find

1116
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: a way to win one possession. Game SO i don't.

1117
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Know they're. Hard it's a hard team to. Read they're

1118
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: going to run the ball in the first. Half then

1119
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: they're going to try to win twenty, three twenty seven

1120
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: to twenty three in the fourth quarter With wilson and

1121
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: he does it a. Lot forty Nine, ers very complete.

1122
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: Team you, know some questions With Deebo sam will come

1123
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: back from injury because at receiver doesn't matter who's running

1124
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: the ball. There offensive line of tons of injuries last,

1125
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: year they're pretty much all. Back defense is all. Intact

1126
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: maybe In TIER d lines of, question but this team

1127
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: should be really good again them in The Saints, stints

1128
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: great offensive, Line Ken Jorris jenkson's fill out THAT cp

1129
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: two row for a whole. Year that's a question That

1130
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: but other than, that forty Nine ers And saints very

1131
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: you can be confident without injury that they're going to

1132
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: make the. Playoffs, Vikings, look how do you Replace diggs

1133
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: through their corner new? Cornerbacks is it an upgrade from

1134
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: the corners who were kind of falling off a. CLIFF

1135
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: a lot of questions With, minnesota just like the ENTIRE

1136
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: Nfc north and then The BUCKS i haven't mentioned. Yet,

1137
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: look a lot of upside with The. Bucks Can brady

1138
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: stay healthy in the first year of that? Offense and

1139
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: what is this decline going to look? Like but tons

1140
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: of talentent, receiver some consistency at offensive, line that defense

1141
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: went from like thirty second to top five unit last.

1142
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: YEAR a lot of upside with The bucks really intriguing,

1143
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: team intriguing, division all.

1144
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: Right SO i got a couple more teams THAT i

1145
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: want to hit and just ask your quick thoughts on

1146
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 4: in terms of their win, totals teams that we didn't

1147
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: really touch on in any other. Segment so let's get

1148
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: into the best of the. Rest let's start with The

1149
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: New York. Giants their win total is. Six Daniel jones

1150
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: starting the year at.

1151
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: Quarterback let's hear it For Danny, dimes the.

1152
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: King at quarterback for the first time in a long.

1153
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: Time Over Euli, madding who is of course, retired any

1154
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: thoughts on which way to?

1155
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: Ween with the total at six for The giants win.

1156
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Total, SIX i make it five point, six so lean.

1157
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: Under the biggest question for me is the offensive. LINE i,

1158
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: mean The Nate soldier contract is just so. Bad but

1159
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: who the hell is their? CENTER i don't, know at

1160
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: a fourth round guard out Of, oregon Maybe Spencer. Pulley

1161
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: it's a huge. Issue you have a rookie tackle that

1162
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: needs to come in and dominate the defense that maybe

1163
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: their corners they Got Bradbury, baker you can improved at

1164
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: the end of last, year but just lots of questions

1165
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 2: on the defense outside the defensive. Line new coaching, Staff

1166
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: so it's tough to see The giants really going over

1167
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: six five division games and six weeks weeks five through.

1168
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: Ten that's what's really gonna make or break their. Season

1169
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: i'd lean under a pass for.

1170
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: Me, yeah they might be a team you bet the over.

1171
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: ON i think the offense will be, better but the

1172
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: defense to me was just as.

1173
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: Bad how about The Dallas. COWBOYS a lot of hype

1174
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 3: around The Dallas.

1175
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys none of us decided to choose their win total

1176
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: either way over or under for nine and a.

1177
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: Half thoughts on that number For.

1178
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: Dallas, YEAH i make this, personally the win totals. TEN

1179
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: i make it a tad over. Ten, Obviously i'm lower

1180
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: on The eagles than the, market and that was one

1181
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: of my win totals and they play them, twice so

1182
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: obviously that. Helps you. Know the big question here is

1183
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: new defensive, coordinator new head, coach coaching. Changes how is

1184
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: that going to play out. CENTER i think one of

1185
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: the big things in THE, nfl one of the big

1186
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: trends you're going to see is elite pressure up the

1187
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: middle to disrupt, offenses and if you don't have a good,

1188
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: center it's really hard to compensate for. That so who's

1189
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: going to come in and Replace Travis? Frederick, otherwise the

1190
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: offensive line looks. Solid they OBVIOUSLY i HAD Cd. Lamb

1191
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: the offense could be. Electric center's my biggest. Question. DEFENSE

1192
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: i Hope Mike nolan doesn't go to a three four.

1193
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: Front he's a three to four. Guy he's ruined defenses

1194
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: before going to four to. Three excuse me going three to,

1195
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: four but this is a four to three. Defense this

1196
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: is what they, have a four man. Front it all

1197
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: comes down to the, cornerbacks, right Can digs come in

1198
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: and be a quarterback? One they're really, Young their quarterbacks

1199
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: are really. Young so that's WHAT i really want to.

1200
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: Watch ceiling is high if center works, out and cornerback

1201
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: just such an important, position And Mike nolan doesn't ruin the.

1202
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Defense but it's right around ten for.

1203
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: Me, yeah and you.

1204
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: Could get it at nine and a half at draftings,

1205
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: Sportsbooks so definitely shop around for the best. Line that's

1206
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: SOMETHING i should have mentioned off the. Top it's advisable

1207
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: to have accounts in at least two sports, books.

1208
00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: You, know stuck an.

1209
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: Eye we have a, bunch but at least two just

1210
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: so you can get get the best line at. Times

1211
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 4: there will be some differences. There but let's close it

1212
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: out with The Arizona. Cardinals seven to be the number

1213
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: looks about. Right you, KNOW i do want to be

1214
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: on the positive side Of Kyler.

1215
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 3: Murray and The Kyler murray.

1216
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 4: Hype AND i Think hopkins. HELPS i Think Isaiah simmons

1217
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: helps at least long. Term they need to cover tight ends.

1218
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: Better that was a huge weakness of their. Defense but

1219
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: this is just a tough. Division it's hard to Beat seattle,

1220
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: once much less. Twice it's hard to beat The. Diner

1221
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to beat The niners, once much less.

1222
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: Twice and even The. Rams you, know The rams our

1223
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: a team that took advantage Of arizona with that with.

1224
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: Those tight end.

1225
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: Weaknesses so just a tough division for. Me SO i

1226
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: probably stay away from. This but any thought stuff.

1227
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: The, CARDINALS i make projection the win total. Seven IF

1228
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: i make like seven to, two seven to. Three the

1229
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: defense needs to get a lot, better especially up the.

1230
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Middle you, know offensive, line you bring a lot back

1231
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: they're going to play four wide receivers a, Ton they're

1232
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: going to be effective running the ball out of. There

1233
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: Kyler murray should take another step. Forward it's a seven

1234
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: and nine eight and eight team to, me but with

1235
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: upside With Kyler. MURRAY i don't see any value either.

1236
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Way but it's an intriguing team for. Sure if you

1237
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: want to look at a, team you, know an eight

1238
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: and eight team that gets in the, playoffs look for

1239
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: a future a seven to nine to nine and seven

1240
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: with a quarterback which you need to win The Super bowl.

1241
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: Capable The cardinals might be your you, know Your browns

1242
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: Or broncos at THE. Nfc, YEAH i.

1243
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: Would say this because you're kind of alluding to. It

1244
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: this is the TEAM i wouldn't get the win. TOTAL

1245
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: i think, seven which you can get at drafting. Sportsbook

1246
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: you're seeing seven and a half at some spot. STUCK

1247
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: i would say that's right about right about spot. On

1248
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: but there's no fourth place team in terms of the

1249
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: odds to win the division THAT i think is more

1250
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: likely to actually win the. Division then the car knows

1251
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: you can get them at plus seven point fifty to

1252
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: win THE Nfc, north which is you, know last place

1253
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 4: among those four teams because it's a tough, division but

1254
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: certainly not out of the.

1255
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: Question if The rams were.

1256
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: As you, know you kind of, Expect, stucky The niners

1257
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: regress AS i, expect And seattle kind of hovers right around,

1258
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: that you, know just above average nine win. Team Maybe

1259
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: arizona wins nine as well and they have a tie

1260
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: breaker or. Something who, knows BUT i would bet The

1261
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: Arizona cardinals with upside. Bets look at them to make

1262
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: the playoffs plus two to fifty five At DraftKings. Sportsbooks

1263
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 4: that is an intriguing bet for. Reasons stucky waid out

1264
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: and Even Kyra murray to WIN mvp twenty eight to.

1265
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: ONE i usually say.

1266
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: With, QUARTERBACKS i like to start getting into, that you,

1267
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 4: know thirty two to one or, better because usually it's

1268
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: always a. Quarterback so IF i can get you, know

1269
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 4: essentially even odds for one of the quarterbacks in the

1270
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: league to, WIN i look at. It so twenty eight

1271
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: to one for one of THE i would say most

1272
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: likely quarterbacks in the league to win that, award it's

1273
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: still pretty good. Value so that's HOW i would bet

1274
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 4: The cardinals look for those upside. Bets that was a

1275
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: great point, stuck but we are going to wrap it up.

1276
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: HERE i hope you enjoyed THIS nfc pre you. Episode,

1277
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 4: again THE afc episode was released last. Week you can

1278
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: check it out on The Action network podcast. Channel you

1279
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: can Follow stucky AND i both in The Action network

1280
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: app and On twitter at the Handles stucky to And Chris.

1281
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,880
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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,000
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1283
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560
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1284
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,960
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1285
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,400
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1286
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,640
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1287
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,160
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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:39,959
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Speaker 4: The badbeat hotline five seven five six five six to six.

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Speaker 4: Floor if you don't have An apple device and still

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Speaker 4: want to enter into the, contest just tell us what

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Speaker 4: you think The washington franchise should be.

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Speaker 3: Renamed until next, week let's get this sh.

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Speaker 2: Money we're finished talking