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Speaker 1: I also think going to Denver, before we get into

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Speaker 1: the compensation, we just assume and listen, I said this

425
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: about Rogers about Russell. If you're a great player the competition,

426
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Speaker 1: you don't even worry you're you just you're gonna put

427
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Speaker 1: me wherever I'm gonna go, and we're gonna win. But

428
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: we're just like locking Denver up as a winner. Like

429
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: they have some talent, but they haven't won a big

430
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: game or just any game that's meaningful in years. They

431
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: have a first year head coach that we have no

432
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: clue if he's gonna be any good. Like, that's the

433
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: one thing Rogers knows. I have a good coach. I

434
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: know that for a fact. Matt Lafleur has goes three years,

435
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: and I know I can win with him leading the charge.

436
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: We don't know that about Nathaniel Hackett, and I'm rooting

437
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: for the Nathanie hack It. You see Davis Guy, his dad.

438
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: You see Davis Guy used to coach Joe Montana, Like,

439
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the family. But we see it

440
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: all the time with these coaches, Like you know, the

441
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: majority of these guys, these first time head coaches, will

442
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: not be good. So there is some unknown there. Now

443
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to the trade value, I started reaching

444
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: out to people in the league. What do you think?

445
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? And depends who you ask. Some

446
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: people think they got fair value. Other people thought they

447
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: would get more. Now, draft picks are capital, and some

448
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: draft picks obviously are worth more than others. So the

449
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: capital of the ninth overall pick is obviously worth more

450
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: than the overall pick. But I think an underrated part

451
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: about this trade also on the players. Shelby Harris like,

452
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: whatever I can find defensive tackles, Drew Lock has no

453
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: value and Noah Fan, you know, depending on who you ask,

454
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: second round pick, third round pick. But he does have value.

455
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Speaker 1: So let's just say he's war with an early third

456
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: late second round pick. Because he's going into his fourth

457
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: year than his fifth year option. He's gonna need a

458
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: new contract. He's a talented player, but you are gonna

459
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: need to pay him. Uh. But the ninth pick, for example,

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00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: the forty Niners and the Detroit Line And excuse me,

461
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: the l a Rams traded their first round picks this

462
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Speaker 1: upcoming draft to the Lions and the Miami Dolphins. Now

463
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: last year, when I said they both got first round picks, like, damn,

464
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: they got first round picks. It sounds great, it always does,

465
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Speaker 1: But then they actually come to fruition, You're like, well,

466
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: the Lions got the thirty second overall pick. The Miami

467
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins for Trey Lance, got the twenty ninth overall pick.

468
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: And to put this into perspective, you could not package

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Speaker 1: those two picks, pick thirty two and pick twenty nine

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Speaker 1: for pick nine. According to the trade value chart, and

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Speaker 1: just common sense, you would say, no, the ninth pick

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Speaker 1: is worth more more than those two picks. But if

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Speaker 1: I told you at the beginning of the season. Would

474
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Speaker 1: you rather have two first round picks or one first

475
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: round pick either Denver, or would you rather have the

476
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: rams of the Niners. You know, I've bet a lot

477
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 1: of people say I'd rather have two first round picks.

478
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: So the ninth pick in a value in a vacuum

479
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: is worth a lot because next year their first round pick.

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00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: That even if Nathaniel Hackett is not as great in

481
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: their team, they're still probably gonna win nine or ten games.

482
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: Hell Seattle that has a worse roster in a tougher division.

483
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: When Russell missed three games won seven, So more than

484
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: likely they're gonna go nine and seven, ten and or

485
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: nine and eight, ten and seven. That's probably worse case.

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00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 1: So that pick next year is going to be in

487
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Speaker 1: the twenties. So next year's picks are not great. But

488
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: this year's picks a good second round pick and obviously

489
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: the ninth pick, those are very, very valuable. And I

490
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: also think it shows you that listen where these and

491
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: these NFL quarterbacks have gained a lot of juice. We

492
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: know their importance. It speaks for itself. Right, they get

493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: a million dollars We all know, my mom knows let

494
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: alone Bill Parcels or Bill Belichick. You cannot win without

495
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. It's impossible. If you don't have above

496
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: average quarterback, you can't even compete. So they have a

497
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: lot of juice, but it still ain't the NBA. When

498
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving demanded to trades like I want to go

499
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: to the Celtics, Anthony Davis, I want to go to

500
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and they just get their way. When the NFL,

501
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: like again Russell Wilson demanded a trade without quote unquote

502
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: demanding a trade, well they go, okay, Russell, and you

503
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: gotta no trade class. We ain't trading you anywhere. We're

504
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: not trading you to the Commanders. Were not trading you

505
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, and they could leak out all they want. Well,

506
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: you know they didn't get the same offer. Those teams

507
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: would have offered three first round picks, I promise you.

508
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: But the Seattle Sea oxident, we're not trading you in

509
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: the NFC, my man, that is not happening on our watch.

510
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: And they knew that Denver who was beyond desperate for

511
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and rightfully so they're hired of losing. And

512
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: once Rogers spurns them would probably be the wrong way

513
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: to put it, but just says, hey, I'm staying with

514
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: Green Bay, which is the right move. The team is

515
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: better and you know you could win and the division.

516
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: You're just a lot to go to the playoffs. Now, Denver,

517
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: if you put Rogers. I ran into him a buddy

518
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: of mine who's actually running the gym now, and he's

519
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a big Raider fan, and I said this morning, I'm like,

520
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: damn man, those Raiders, and he's like, you know, I

521
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: actually feel relieved because I was expecting the Denver Broncos

522
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: to get Aaron Rodgers. And obviously we all agree Russell

523
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Wilson's really good, but he ain't Aaron Rodgers. And again

524
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: this is where I disagree with Colin. Wi's not act

525
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: like Russell's better than Aaron. Like Aaron's a better player

526
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson. Ask every single GM and every single

527
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL you had one game, who would

528
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: you rather play? If you had to pick between those two,

529
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: you would take I would rather play Russell Wilson then

530
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: play Aaron Rodgers. Does Aaron Rodgers leave a little bit desired?

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Speaker 1: The last couple of year is in the playoffs, of course,

532
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: But like I said, it's partly because where they play.

533
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: They play in this place, it's fucking negative ten degrees

534
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: that most players would suck. It takes the greatest quarterback

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00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: of all time, who if I remember correctly, through some

536
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: picks in that game to come in and beat him.

537
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: And this year, you know, the Niners just they played

538
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: in this ugly game. It was freezing cold, which is

539
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: a whole another issue. They need to figure out a

540
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: way to you know, I don't know then I actually

541
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: might be better playing on the road, because I'll promise

542
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: you this, and listen, I wanted the Niners to win.

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad they won. I had money on the forty Niners.

544
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm clearly rooting for the forty Niners. If that game

545
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: would have been a Levi's instead of being at a Lambeau,

546
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay wins, you know, because his greatest

547
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: advantage a pastor you can operate like if you put

548
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson at Lambeaux, like, he ain't winning. We saw

549
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago. He lost. So I

550
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: I just think that when you look at the trade,

551
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I thought they should have got more to He's the

552
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 1: best player in the history of the franchise, and I

553
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: think from you know, petee him out, Schneider probably doesn't

554
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: want him out. Schneider probably rather get rid of Pete

555
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Carroll because ultimately Snyder answers the Pete Carroll and Pete Carroll,

556
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: you know again, seven years old, you're worth a hundred

557
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: million dollars. I've been around some older people with a

558
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: lot of money. Anyone that listening that has two knows

559
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: one thing. They're fucking stubborn. They are stubborn. They're not

560
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: like progressive with their ideas like I'm open to stuff. No,

561
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna be very very headstrong in what they believe.

562
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: And clearly Russell and listen, I respect Russell Wilson, his ambition,

563
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: his desire to quote unquote be great, his work ethic

564
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: as a player. I'm not a Russell Wilson hater. But

565
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: I think there are two sides of this story in Seattle.

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00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: You know, to trade them, like, I actually think their package,

567
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the more and more I've had to marinate on it

568
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: is probably a little better than you think. Because of

569
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: the ninth pick in the high second round pick uh

570
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: and on the Denver side is the easiest trade they'll

571
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: ever make in the history of the franchise that they

572
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: would have given more to get Russell Wilson because in

573
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the Foresea the future, they were never going to sniff

574
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback like Russell Wilson. Help. They've been drafting guys

575
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: over and over and over and every single guy stinks.

576
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: So I think this is this is a BP fastball

577
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: for George Peyton. I bet George Payton is telling his friends, like, God,

578
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I would have paid more. I was, I would have

579
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: easily paid more. You know when they told me that's it.

580
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: I didn't have to give up Jerry, Judy or Patrick's certain.

581
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have to give up another first round pick

582
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: to get Russell Wilson. Who's you know, whether he's he

583
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: wasn't top five quarterback last year, but you know he's

584
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: still a top six seven quarterback in the league. And

585
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: for them, he's a dramatic improvement from anything they've had

586
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: since really Peyton Manning obviously, and now Denver is relevant,

587
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: and I think the league likes Denver being relevant. Obviously,

588
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Denver is a big you know, just been a powerhouse

589
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: franchise for the majority of my life. And uh now

590
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Seattle at least of recording this. You know they don't

591
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. They're not relevant anymore. And this is

592
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: where that you never want to be the team trade

593
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: in the star quarterback unless you get another star quarterback,

594
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: because you're gonna lose the trade. Like, no one's gonna

595
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: care if you Cavon Thip Thibodeau falls into your lap

596
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: and you draft Drake London in the second round. If

597
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback, you don't have anything. You

598
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: have no chance you're gonna win four or five games.

599
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: So this is where Russell Wilson, like you can leak

600
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: out that you know he mailed in the season because

601
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: that was in the athletic article. Seattle thinks he mailed

602
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: it in, and when you watched him, there were times

603
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: when he thought he was mailing it in. But if

604
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't mail it in Denver, he's gonna make you

605
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: look stupid. Right, you can you can fire some diva

606
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: artists from your recording label. If that recording labels you

607
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: know or that record that uh, that artist is Taylor

608
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Swift or Dr Dre. The next label he goes, she's

609
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna make you look like an idiot. So this is

610
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: where back to Pete Carroll, Like I would have fired

611
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, I said last year and just figured out,

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, Russell, I don't love doing this, but like

613
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I want to hire an offensive coach. We want you

614
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: to stay here, even if he's a pain in the ass,

615
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: which I think it's pretty clear, but you know, it

616
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: just it is what it is. It's a relationship business.

617
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: This relationship crumbled, and it's been crumbling now for a

618
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: little while. I just I just struggle with when a

619
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: guy can kind of fly unto the radar and make

620
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: these crazy demands because in most people in sports, like

621
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: in the NBA, you know, when the guy's Anthony Davis,

622
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, you know, Kawhi, Leonard, Paul George, Like they

623
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: get shipped on for doing this. Aaron Rodgers got crushed

624
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: for thinking about like, you know, leaving. Russell kind of

625
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: avoids it because he because he's great with pr and

626
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: I just I'm not into that crap. I'm not in

627
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: the fake or fraud. Just say, hey man, I I

628
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: respect the hell out of it. Was like I was

629
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: tired of Pete Carroll that he was too stubborn. I

630
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: didn't think he knew was anything about offense. I think

631
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: he's losing his fastball, but he would never say that

632
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to be disliked in Seattle. And listen,

633
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm someone in the Bay Area. We threw a party yesterday.

634
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is sixteen and four against the forty Niners.

635
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Speaker 1: He owns them. I've been watching sports for thirty plus years.

636
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Speaker 1: I've never seen one single player beat the ship out

637
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Speaker 1: of one single team over and over and over. And

638
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: unlike Aaron Rodgers with the Bears, the Bears always suck,

639
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the Niners have been good. Aaron on him with Harbaugh,

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Aaron's owned him with Kyle Shanahan. It doesn't matter. The

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00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: only meaningful game the forty Niners have ever beat Russell Wilson,

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: they came within a millimeter on that Week eight seventeen

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00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago on Sundaynight Football of losing.

644
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Speaker 1: So he's just I I respect the hell out of

645
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: the player, but we're gonna see this Denver thing because

646
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Speaker 1: I some people think it's gonna fail on both sides.

647
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Who knows if, because ultimately Seattle, I think also kind

648
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: of feels that maybe wrestles over the hill you know,

649
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: he's not He's a small guy. He's just a lot

650
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: of wear and tear. We'll see. I think he's gonna

651
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: be good next year. But it'll all also come down

652
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: to the head coach. Anytime there's the first year head coach,

653
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Speaker 1: he might not be very good. Speaking of quarterbacks, Like,

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Speaker 1: did Howary Roseman have the greatest trade in the history

655
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Speaker 1: of trades? He essentially sold a five million in dollar

656
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Speaker 1: house that twelve months later got sold for one point

657
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: five million dollars. You talk about a great deal. How

658
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: he flipped a player that the Philadelphia Eagles couldn't stand,

659
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: The front office didn't like, the coaching staff was over,

660
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: even the players. They can say whatever they want. I've

661
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: been told weren't big fans of the guy towards the

662
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: end to Indianapolis Colts who then missed the playoffs can't

663
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: stand the guy either and trade him. So they gave

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Speaker 1: up pick sixteen, and you know, and they ultimately only

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Speaker 1: get back a third round pick and potentially a second

666
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Speaker 1: round pick. Now for Washington, here's the thing with the

667
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Speaker 1: Washington football team. Commando Commanders, Commandos. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: their name. I actually think they should have been called

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00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: the Commandos, not the Commanders. The Washington football team played

670
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: last year with Taylor Heineke, Tyler Haneke, Taylor Heneke a

671
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. They would have done anything to be in

672
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Speaker 1: the position as the Indianapolis Colts were going into that

673
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game nine and seven, with all you gotta do

674
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: is win and get in. That's the bar. The Commandos

675
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: are not trying to win the Super Bowl. They're not

676
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: trying to get the number one overall seed. They're just

677
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: trying to be playing football in January. That matters, and

678
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: they didn't even come close to that last year. So

679
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: you get Carson Wentz, who again it's in this weird

680
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: spot on the field. He's better than the way we

681
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: talk about him. And I'm you know what I mean,

682
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan, but he's better than the

683
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: way the average person when you just say Carson Wentz,

684
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: they just say he sucks. He does not suck. But

685
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: he is no longer a superstar. And I don't remember

686
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: a player that's had a quicker fall from grace potential,

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Speaker 1: m v P physical freak to now like three teams

688
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: and three years. That's a pretty big red flag. That's

689
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: like Russell Westbrock territory. Nothing like Russell Westbrock telling fans

690
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: to to like shooting on the fans. No one talks

691
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: more ship about the fans then Russell Westbrook. It really

692
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: is like, hey, Russell, Lebron James and Clutch tried to

693
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: run you out of town for John wall in a

694
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: two thousand seven first round pick. Stop yelling at the fans.

695
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: Start looking at Lebron James. He can't stand you. Don't

696
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: blame the fans, but the Washington football team just wants

697
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: to be competitive. But here's the thing with Carson Wentz.

698
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: It clearly isn't just about on the field play and

699
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: he does some stupid stuff. It's about the guy. People

700
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: don't love the guy. And part of being a quarterback

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Speaker 1: is the intangible stuff. Here's here's the other thing about

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Speaker 1: Russell Russell Wilson. Where his teammates, Why do his teammates

703
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: never be like, you know what, I love Russell Wilson.

704
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: That is my guy, man, Russell Wilson, that is my dude.

705
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Love that guy. Man, what a what a badass? Where's

706
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: that guy? Say what you want about Aaron Rodgers and

707
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: you know he had some interesting relationships over the years

708
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: with his teammates. He just officiated his star left tackle's wedding,

709
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, like one of his best friends. There are

710
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: guys on that team that love the guy. Where are

711
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: these people with Russell Wilson. I don't see any of them.

712
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: They clearly don't exist with Carson Wentz. I'm not asking

713
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Speaker 1: you to be Tom Brady the greatest teammate of all time,

714
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: but do people like you say this all the time

715
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo, very flawed player. People love them. People

716
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo. They're like hanging out with them, They're

717
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: like going to work with him. They're like being around

718
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: the guy. Look at Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford goes to

719
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the l A Rams like team captain five minutes in. Guys,

720
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: they swear by him. Being a quarterback is about more

721
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: than just throwing touchdowns. It's about every single day galvanizing

722
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: the room, having guys be like, I love this dude, man,

723
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: that's that's my homie. I want to play for this

724
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: guy because you literally need five people to protect you,

725
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you need running backs to block for you, and you

726
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: need wide receivers delayed on the line across the middle

727
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: for you. Yet, for whatever reason, with Carson Wentz doesn't

728
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: feel like people are all in on the guy, the

729
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: teammates and then the moment the teammates kind of get

730
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: wish you watched the front office of the coaching stafford

731
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: like Dad, we gotta be out now. This Indianapolis cold situation.

732
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: Clearly the owner is someone involved, kind of weird, don't

733
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: quite know what's going on, you know, let's face it,

734
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: or say is a little bit of a whack job.

735
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: But you know, say this for Jim Mercy, he's seen

736
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: what it looks like. He's at Andrew Luck and Peyton

737
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Manning again, well like people, you know, teammates like the guys.

738
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Then they've had Jacobe Brisett people like him, Philip Rivers

739
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: people like him. Carson Wentz not so much. That's why

740
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time when when guys

741
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: are coming out in the draft. In this draft, you know,

742
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: for lacking in talent, which it does, it has high

743
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: character guys Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett, Sam how mac corral

744
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: like guys like these players like their teammates, their coaches,

745
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: and and that really matters. And that's something that Carson Wentz,

746
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: who you know, feels like he's gonna be on like

747
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: five teams in six years when it's all said and done,

748
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: is lacking. And I don't know why. You know, I

749
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: haven't spending time around him. You have to ask, you know,

750
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: the coaching staffs that have been around him. But something's off, man,

751
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: And when something's off at quarterback, you have big problem

752
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: unless the guy is Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

753
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: And that is clearly not the case with Carson. One

754
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: thing I think we've seen with the quarterback movement because

755
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: let's face it, the way the marketplace works in player

756
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: acquisition is a sequence. Right. Free agency happens before the draft.

757
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: We're actually in the NBA's the opposite. The draft is

758
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: before free agency. Well, supply and demand is a real thing, right,

759
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: If you know you can get a quarterback in the draft,

760
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: you would wait until the draft, right, or if it's

761
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: a good quarterback draft. Like last year. Part of the

762
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: reason the Bear signed Andy Dalton is because at pick

763
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: twenty they had no clue. They didn't think they get

764
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: justin fields. If they had to do over on that,

765
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: you better believe Ryan Pace, who's general is never gonna

766
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: be a GM again. Would have known that Justin Fields

767
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: would not have gone in the top five or eight picks,

768
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: and he would have been able to trade up to

769
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: whatever pick eleven to get him. They would not have

770
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: seen any Dalton. They just would have rolled in with

771
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Full and Justin Fields. So obviously there is unknown going

772
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: into the draft, but it's pretty clear that this quarterback

773
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: class is atrocious. Now, that does not mean that these

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00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in five years are not gonna be good. Right,

775
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: just because what you are I say it all the time.

776
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: The draft is not a representation of what I think

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00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be. It's the price that I have to

778
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: pay to acquire you. John Schneider loved Russell Wilson, but

779
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: they drafted him in the third round because that was

780
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: his value. No one at the time back a decade ago,

781
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: it was gonna take a short, little quarterback that high.

782
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, seven eight years later, you want to get

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you want to get Baker Mayfield. You know,

784
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: you gotta draft him really high. The market changed, right,

785
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. Like the certain markets

786
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: around America in UH in terms of housing markets are

787
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: it's constantly adapting. Things change and you have to adapt

788
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: to it. But in terms of prospects, like last year,

789
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: the worst physical process effect of the group was Mac Jones.

790
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not the biggest fan because I don't

791
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: like drafting average physical skills in the top fifteen. But

792
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: it was pretty clear, you know, he was gonna get

793
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, you know, And I thought

794
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: there was a chance if the Patriots didn't take him,

795
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: he was gonna go in the twenties. But he went

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Speaker 1: pick fifteen and he was the fifth quarterback off the board.

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00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: So look at it three or four years ago when

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00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the big quarterback draft happened, Lamar Jackson went pick thirty two.

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Speaker 1: All those quarterbacks last year were off the board by fifteen. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a decent has none of these quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Well they shouldn't be now people. The difference between quarterbacks

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00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: and other other positions is there's quarterback inflation. You are

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Speaker 1: willing to pay you know, a hundred buck seventy five

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00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: on the dollar. Like ultimately, if Desmond Ritter goes fourteen,

805
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: is he a first round pick the history of the league. No,

806
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: But you know, quarterback inflation is it is what it is.

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00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: But when you pay a premium for a non premium

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00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: and then that guy like right now, Desmond Ritter, it's

809
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: like he could be the next Prescott. Well that's his ceiling,

810
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: the next Dak Prescott. So if he hits his not

811
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Speaker 1: even his floor, but somewhere in the middle, you're getting

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. And then you got a problem. I I

813
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: draft in the first round of backup quarterback. We got issues.

814
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: So I think the reason all these quarterbacks are moving places.

815
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Speaker 1: Like if there was a good quarterback draft, the Washington

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Speaker 1: Football team Commandos, commanders would have just waited. They wouldn't

817
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: have traded two third round picks to get Carson Wentz. Right.

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00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, at the time of recording this, Jimmy Garoppolo

819
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Speaker 1: has not been traded. Whoever trades for him just would

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Speaker 1: have waited to get a quarterback. But his quarterback draft

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Speaker 1: is atrocious and we know that. Like that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: though that they won't be good players. Right. The value

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Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald at the time when the Rams took

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Speaker 1: him at whatever picked twelve or eleven or thirteen, he

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Speaker 1: was a six ft defensive tackle, right, And even that

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Speaker 1: quote unquote at the time was a very very bold pick,

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Speaker 1: even though he was an awesome player. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: redid the draft, he would go number one overall. Right,

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Speaker 1: things change in hindsight, but we don't have hindsight when

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Speaker 1: we're coming into the draft. It's like you could redo

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Speaker 1: a draft. George Kittles going in the top ten. He

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Speaker 1: went in the fifth round. Just the nature of the business.

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Speaker 1: But at the time he wasn't as good of a

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Speaker 1: prospect as he's become as a player. Where you know,

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Speaker 1: like listen, Carson Wentz maybe a weirdo in your building.

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Speaker 1: the Volumes podcast network. Another story that kind of intrigues me.

846
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about this is uh, you know,

847
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Speaker 1: because Kurt herb Street it looks like it's gonna go

848
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Speaker 1: to Amazon for a lot of money. Troy aikman' is

849
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna go to Monday Night Football. I don't know where

850
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: Troy said this. Uh, maybe I think on local radio

851
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and Dallas. Troy's big local radio guy in Dallas. Don't

852
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Speaker 1: blame him, you know, Dallas's home. Uh, and listen. I

853
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: believe that Troy Aikman is good. I think because let's

854
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: face it, the majority of people that are played by

855
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: play guys are analysts. Most crews you watch right are awful,

856
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: and as someone that watches a lot of forty Niner games,

857
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: the majority of their games were not called by Joe

858
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: and Troy. If they're just playing some random team, I

859
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: get like the third or fourth Fox crew, it's atrocious. Now,

860
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Joe and Troy are good, and Burkhardt and Greg Olsen

861
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: are good, just like Burkhart and John Lynch were good.

862
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Those are two good crews. The majority of the crews stink,

863
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: are awful, but you know what, it's football. I don't care.

864
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: Troy said that Fox did not offer him a contract,

865
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: ak like they weren't gonna even get close to matching

866
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: whatever the hell ESPN is paying him fifteen eighteen seventeen

867
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: Tony Romo type money. And I started thinking, like Fox

868
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: obviously owns Fox News as well. The reason they pay

869
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: their Fox News hosts ten fifteen twenty million dollars a

870
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: year because they're the number one news shows if you're

871
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: into politics on television, regardless where you stand, like Fox

872
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: News outrates every other news channel, and those guys get

873
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: paid a boatload of money. Stay with Coward, right, Coward

874
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: gets a lot of money, but his show. If I'm

875
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: coming to Coward or I'm coming to you know, I

876
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: don't watch this guy, but Sean Hannity or MSNBC or whatever,

877
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming for that individual, right where with Troy and Joe,

878
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: who again are good. If the Packers are playing the Cowboys,

879
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm coming for Backers Cowboys. Honestly, Back to the political stuff,

880
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how people watch political TV, Like I

881
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: actually think I could be a political host, but I

882
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: would hate the anger. I wouldn't want to be angry

883
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: every day because art of being a political host, you

884
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: just gotta be angry, and just a lot of people

885
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: are half the country's gonna hate you. That would be

886
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: really exhausting. Now it pays a lot, it pays a shipload,

887
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: But I not that I care about being like because

888
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't even like the majority of people. But you

889
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: would just have to be angry every day. And the

890
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: other thing is with politics, you don't control anything, not

891
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: that I control anything with sports, but it's more of

892
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: a happier medium. I feel like, you know, luckily, you know,

893
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: we're able to make some cash doing this, but I

894
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: I would have I would struggle with just the negative mindset,

895
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: which you just kind of have to have, right. And

896
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I also just think it's so fake. I don't know

897
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: how you do it. But again, pays a lot of

898
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: money because they come to see you. As I was

899
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: told that several parties. The most successful guy in the

900
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: history of political radio, it wasn't even close with Russia Limball.

901
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: He was making hundreds of millions of dollars for the company,

902
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: right Coward one of the most Dan Patrick successful sports print.

903
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: You come to watch them. I don't come to watch

904
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Joe and Troy. I don't care about them now. I'd

905
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: rather watch them than you know, Chris Myers and one

906
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: of the Barber Brothers. But if the Packers are playing

907
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the forty Niners are playing the Rams, if

908
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles are you know, are playing the Arizona Cardinals. Like,

909
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm watching that game regardless who's calling it. Let's face it,

910
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: we all watched a lot of bad broadcast crews. So

911
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: I put myself in the management of Fox, and I

912
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: don't listen, Troy, you're a stud. Love you, We've had

913
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: you for a couple of decades. But I asked myself, CBS,

914
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: they paid Troy or Tony Romo all that money, and listen.

915
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: I like Tony personally, I don't know him, but I

916
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: feel like we'd be buddies, big golf guys, and we'd

917
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: like playing golf and maybe drink some beers. But I

918
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: do think he's a little over the top sometimes as

919
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: a broadcaster. But I also thought, like, if you're CBS now,

920
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: part of the reason Tony got paid so much is

921
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: because ESPN tried to steal them and they didn't want

922
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: to lose them. But like, I wonder if they think now,

923
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: like if you put Week one, let's just hypothetically say

924
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: there's a game Chiefs Bills, do we give a ship

925
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: who's calling the game? What if it was me and

926
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: my mom calling the game, I have too, I'd be

927
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: a big story because it's like, why is this dude

928
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: and his mom calling the game? But ultimately you're tuning

929
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: in to watch why Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, It doesn't

930
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: really matter who's calling the game. Like if CBS had

931
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: to do over on that, do you think it matters?

932
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: You know? And like I said, I understand why these

933
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: guys get so much money, but I do wonder do

934
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you need to pay him that much money? Because ultimately

935
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: we've talked before about like, uh, you know Tony Soprano

936
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: or I mean James Gandelfoene the last year the Sopranos

937
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: making a couple of million dollars in episode, the Cast

938
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: of Friends million dollars in episode. Some of these big

939
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: television shows huge money. They are the show, Like ultimately,

940
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes is the show. Belichick and mac Jones are the show. Shanahan, Stafford,

941
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Bosa there the show. You're just commentating it

942
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: and listen, you deserve to get paid because commentating, especially

943
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: being a good one, is hard to duplicate and hard

944
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: to find other ones. But I don't think Fox is

945
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: that crazy. Like you could argue, just pay someone five

946
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: million dollars, throw them in there. Even if you get

947
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: some blowback on Twitter, who gives a ship. There's like

948
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: cent of society is on Twitter, and like three actually tweet.

949
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: The majority of it is just media people, And we've

950
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: seen media people tend to be very fucking miserable. Most

951
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: people I know are pretty normal. They're not that miserable.

952
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Every day. They just watch football because they want to

953
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: release from normal life, gamble on the game, watch their squad.

954
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: So if you just put you know, former player X,

955
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: even if he's not that great, the media will complain.

956
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: Hell I might complain. I'm guilty too, But ultimately I'm watching.

957
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: Like I said, Hey, John, you want to watch Herbert

958
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes today? It's uh Jim Nance and uh some random

959
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: backup special teamer. No, No, I only watch former quarterbacks

960
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: or guys that are in the Hall of Fame calling

961
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: my games. I will not watch justin Herbert and Patrick

962
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes play today. Won't do it. No one's ever said that,

963
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: So maybe Fox is right on this one. I don't

964
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: blame Troy for getting paid. He's already super rich. It's

965
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: not like this is more and I understand from his

966
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: perspective it's respect. But ultimately, if you don't own anything,

967
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: and let's face it, Troy's as an employee, like you

968
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: gotta make seb decisions for management. So I I do

969
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: kind of understand where they're coming from. Uh. Now we'll

970
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: see who they replace them with. I could probably be

971
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: Greg Olson, which I don't even think we'll notice, you know,

972
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: and if Joe, if Joe buck leaves to like Kevin

973
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Burkhardt and Greg Olson, will they be as good as

974
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: those two? No, because they're not as famous. But well,

975
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: we really noticed that big of a difference. I don't

976
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: think so, because, let's face it, Troy wasn't that good.

977
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: I think I heard Bill Simmons say this on his

978
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: podcast and he was right, like Troy, it gotta start.

979
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say mail it in, but it just lost

980
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: his fastball. This year, after Romo got that enormous contract,

981
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: he was kind of like double middle fingers, like, you

982
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: guys forgot I'm Troy, iigman, I got the three rings.

983
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm the important Dallas quarterback. Because you know what fans want.

984
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Fans want you to be critical because We're all sitting

985
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: on our couch screaming at the guy for dropping a pass,

986
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: screaming at the coach for not calling a time out,

987
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: and we're the ones paying the bills. Without us, there

988
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: is no league, there is no money, there is no

989
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: television deal, there is no of these jobs. And Troy

990
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of got back into the saddle of being critical.

991
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Part of I think the reason Madden and Gruden could

992
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: avoid because John Ji Gruden wasn't that critical lever of coaches.

993
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: But John was such a big, exuberant personality he could

994
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of overcome it. Most of these guys aren't huge personalities,

995
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, most of these guys wouldn't have a snowball's

996
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: chance and hell in as entertainers doing you know, hosting

997
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: a podcast or something if they weren't commentating on a game.

998
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: And I thought Troy kind of brought his fastball back

999
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: because it was like f you to Tony Romo, which

1000
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we all need a little kick in the ass,

1001
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: and now we got paid. But I truly don't believe

1002
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: really Fox is gonna miss him that much because I

1003
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: don't think it matters. Like when Aaron Rodgers plays Russell

1004
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: Wilson and Fox the afternoon games hosting it U I

1005
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: and other million people are watching. Let's let's get a

1006
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: couple other stories. Bobby Wagner was cut. It's pretty simple.

1007
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: When you're tearing things down anyone that's worked in a company,

1008
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: they usually go after the highest paid guys. Right, they

1009
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: don't start firing the interns. The interns don't make any money.

1010
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks working to cut a bunch of guys

1011
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: making veteran minimums where guys making one two million dollars,

1012
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't change their salary cap. You cut the guy

1013
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: that makes twenty million dollars a year. If the salary

1014
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: cap is two eight million dollars, you're talking like nine

1015
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: percent of the salary cap. Boom saved. That was Bobby Wagner,

1016
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: a good player, of course. Do I think he'll probably

1017
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: end up on the rams. I do, but like that's

1018
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: part of the deal. I also think we overreact like

1019
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: it's a really big deal when quarterbacks in their prime

1020
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: get moved. That doesn't happen very much. But because it

1021
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: it just doesn't right what what Russell Wilson at thirty

1022
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: three years old getting traded is kind of an outlier

1023
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: now thirty three. You know in the nineties that used

1024
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: to be more like thirty nine years old. Thirty three

1025
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: is like the new twenty nine. Right when Peyton Manning

1026
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: moved teams, he was coming off like five neck surgeries.

1027
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: Tom Brady became a free agent at forty two years old.

1028
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: So Bobby Wagner is like Ronnie lock got cut, right,

1029
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: Dean Sandrews got cut, like some of the greatest players

1030
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: nin quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame tam get cut.

1031
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: It's part of the business. It's honestly what makes the

1032
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: health of the business go. If Bobby Wagner was an

1033
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: NBA player, you have three years left at five million

1034
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: dollars a year, and you'd be stuck with him. Now,

1035
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: he's still good. I'm not trying to diminish, like he's

1036
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: still a talented player, but I the overreactions like Seattle

1037
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner draft, the new draft new linebacker. Are you

1038
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: gonna get as good of one? Probably not? But can

1039
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: you get a guy that be of him for two

1040
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: million dollars? Probably? That's the way the National Football League works.

1041
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: That's why it's the healthiest sport. Why will continue to

1042
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: be You're not stuck with players. Uh the Chargers give

1043
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: them credit. Uh, you gotta build around your young quarterback

1044
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: because defensively, I think the jury is out on Brandon Staley.

1045
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can tell me all you want about

1046
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: the roster, but their defense was a joke last year.

1047
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: And like all the talent, what stop the fucking run?

1048
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, listen, do you need to be a top

1049
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: ten run defense? No? Can you not be dead last?

1050
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Can you get a run stop against the Houston Texans

1051
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: went in a must in game? For the love of god?

1052
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: Can you tackle Josh Jacobs to make it to the

1053
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: playoffs just one time? No? You can't. Can you? Can

1054
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: you dial up a defense where even if you're playing

1055
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: with me, you and three other randalls, where you can

1056
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: just fill some gaps because Belichick could you know Dick

1057
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: lebo would have. So if you're gonna get a reach

1058
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: around like you're the smartest defensive guy in the league,

1059
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: like you gotta stop the run? Well, I don't know

1060
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: if they're gonna be any good on defense as long

1061
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: as this guy is the head coach, because to me

1062
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: feels a little overmatched. But you can be awesome on offense,

1063
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: So to me, you double down on Justin Herbert. You

1064
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: keep Mike Williams, you obviously got Keenan Allen, You draft

1065
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: another wide receiver, you go sign another tight end, you

1066
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: gotta get a big running back to go with Eckler,

1067
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: and you go all in an offense. To me, the

1068
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: philosophy for the Chargers if I want to make the

1069
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: playoffs next year, is to be a top two or

1070
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: three offense. Be kind of what the Chiefs were a

1071
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Be an unstoppable offense, and just

1072
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: try to incrementally improve on defense. Right to me, so

1073
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: keeping Mike Williams, they have a bunch of cabs space

1074
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: smart move. Mike Williams is the type guy you want

1075
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: with a big arm quarterback thrown up there and let

1076
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: the guy make place. They need Keenan Allen, even though

1077
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: statistically he was good last year, he dropped a bunch

1078
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: of balls. Uh. I think they also need a speed

1079
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I was listening to DJ Daniel Jeremiah, who

1080
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: I once replaced when he went to the NFL Network,

1081
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: which is a little ironic because then eventually I kind

1082
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: of went into a similar space. But he mentioned Chris

1083
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Olava as a guy potentially for the Chargers, I think

1084
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: Chris Olave, you know, those type players with with with

1085
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, make a lot of sense. My pushback would

1086
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: be I'd say to LESCo is pretty good at finding

1087
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: random wide receivers, that he might be able to find

1088
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: a guy in the second or third round and use

1089
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: that pick on someone on defense, because you need defensive players.

1090
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Go get a defensive lineman and then draft a speed

1091
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver or sign a speed wide receiver. That's that

1092
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: would be my philosophical, uh thought process when it came

1093
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: to the Chargers the Lions. Remember Matt Patricia, a former

1094
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: head coach of the Lions. What a disaster that was.

1095
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Remember he went to the Lions. Classic Patriot move signed

1096
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: all these Patriots. Trey Flowers, who's a solid player, was

1097
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: just cut by Key Dan Campbell, and uh. I forget

1098
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: their GM's name from the Rams, but I would to me,

1099
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: usually when Patriots leave the Patriots, they get paid a

1100
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: premium to go somewhere else. They usually come back to

1101
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots on a discount because Bill goes, hey, listen,

1102
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: you've already been paid. You want to win again, come here.

1103
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: So I could see the Patriots being all over Trey Flowers,

1104
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: Patricia's also they're now doing that Ernie Adams role, but

1105
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: that that's usually the route these Patriot guys role. Now

1106
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: they did it with Brady. We'll see if that continues

1107
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: to happen with old McCorkle Jones. The Titans they signed

1108
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: Harold Landry. Uh, big time pass rusher. I think seven million.

1109
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see the guaranteed money. You never know what

1110
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. It could be like seven million dollars guaranteed.

1111
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: Probably good pass rusher to me. The Titans, you know,

1112
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: as long as the culture in flux at quarterback, um,

1113
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the heavy favorite to win the division again.

1114
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the heavy favorite to be in the

1115
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: mix for a two or three seat. I know this

1116
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: year they got the one. It's probably a one off time.

1117
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: But their GM's a stud. Their head coaches have stud

1118
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: Their organization is it's just a well run operation. It's

1119
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: whenever I hear all the Patriot guys failed. And I

1120
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: say that a lot, I mean coaches John Robinson Bray

1121
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: will never coached there. Brabel played there. You know. It's like,

1122
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: is Welker a Patriot guy? Well, he played there? Walker

1123
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: is now a coach. He never worked for Belichick. I

1124
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: view the same thing with Rabel. John Robinson worked for him.

1125
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: But John Robinson's a GM. I think the gms have

1126
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: been a little bit different. So and clearly John has

1127
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean John goes the playoffs every year as a

1128
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: general manager of the Titans. He's from there. What a

1129
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: great job you get to live in Nashville. Uh, the

1130
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: GM of the Titans are gonna build a new stadium.

1131
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: He's got a good gig, and I mean he knows it.

1132
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: They cut Roger Staffold, who once upon a time signed

1133
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: with the Raiders and then they did a a physical

1134
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: and somehow Mark Davis got word that his shoulder was

1135
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: messed up, so he renicked on the deal. That's uh,

1136
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: that's a little inside Raiders right there. But that was

1137
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: probably five, six, maybe seven eight years ago. And Roger

1138
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: Staffold went on to have a great career with you know,

1139
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: the Rams, stay with the Rams, and then he went

1140
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: to the Titans. Do stud do's a really good guard.

1141
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with cutting guards, cutting guards and centers,

1142
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: Like I can find guards and centers if you can't,

1143
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: if I can kind of guard, now, obviously, if you

1144
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: got Quentin Nelson or Larry Allen or you know, Jim

1145
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Otto or something. But if you have a highly paid

1146
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: guard who and you have some cap issues, I should

1147
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: be able to replace with a third round plug in

1148
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: play starter. Easier said than done. But of the any

1149
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: position on the football team, if I can't find a center,

1150
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: and I can't find a left or right guard to

1151
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: fill through the draft, I'm not good at my job, period,

1152
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. So I think that's the

1153
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: way a lot of guys think that. Once they get

1154
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: to a point where they gotta move around a little money,

1155
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: sometimes highly paid centers and guards, if they're not like

1156
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey, are the first to go. So I it's

1157
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: not really that crazy, especially once they get up there

1158
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: in age. Like how long am I gonna hold on

1159
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: to some highly paid thirty two four year old guard?

1160
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: You know, I should be able to I have to

1161
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: be able to find a guy in the draft for cheap. So,

1162
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: like like Howie Roseman said in his press conference, the

1163
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: NFL is all about allocating resources. Every single team has

1164
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: the same amount of resources to start there all the

1165
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: same amount of money. They're all the same amount of

1166
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: draft picks, teams just choose to utilize them different ways.

1167
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: And to me, I would always draft guards and centers

1168
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: and like the third and fourth round. I mean that's

1169
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: where I find my guys. I just left tackles, right, tackles,

1170
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: pass rushers early, obviously, quarterbacks. I might even hang out

1171
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: on wide receivers till the second round, and running backs

1172
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not messing with till later in the draft. I

1173
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: saw with the forty Niners last year they take Trace

1174
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Sermon in the third round Ohio State, Oklahoma was like,

1175
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, he can't hold Elijah Mitchell's jock. Who

1176
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: they found the sixth round? Running Backs you should never

1177
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: not in. I love Nagi Harris, love him. Stut, you know,

1178
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: I would just try to avoid taking running backs in

1179
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: the first round. I don't care how good the guy is,

1180
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: because I can find really good players in like the

1181
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: third or fourth. We see it all the time. Davin

1182
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: Cook was the first round pick, Alban Kamara wasn't the

1183
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: first round pick, Derrick Henry was the first round pick.

1184
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson was, but you know, league was a little

1185
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: different back then. He handed off to him thirty times

1186
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: a game. You don't know. Now we throw the ball,

1187
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: throw the ball a lot. I talked to a buddy

1188
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: who talked to a couple of guys actually about the

1189
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: Arkansas wide receiver Brooks. I had a I had a

1190
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach text text me the other day, Uh

1191
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: and all he said, we're Garrett, he said, Wilson and

1192
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: a lava dot dot dot real deal. He loves as

1193
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver coach in the NFL. Loves the two

1194
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: High state guys. I mean, and listen, if you watched

1195
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State, which like ten million people do a week,

1196
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: so if you watch a little college football, you had

1197
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: a minimum watching up with their games. Those two guys

1198
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: bad asses. The rest of the crew, you know, I

1199
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: think the jury's out on Drake London. I like him,

1200
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: my guy didn't. I think the Arkansas guys really raw.

1201
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's just he's not a great route runner,

1202
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: but he's a big time athlete even though he's not

1203
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: that fast, but he can just make ship happen. Um.

1204
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot gonna be a lot

1205
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: of different opinions on the wide receivers beside the two

1206
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State guys who are just difference makers. I mean,

1207
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. I mean there's a chance that you know,

1208
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: two years ago was Justin Jefferson, last year was Jamar Chase.

1209
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: This year is Garrett Wilson. Comes in the league, eight catches,

1210
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns, just dominates, kicks, ass take names, and like,

1211
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: God damn, this guy is good. To me, he's the

1212
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: one sometimes with the speed wide receivers like Lave Rugs.

1213
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I would say Deshaun a little bit of an outlier

1214
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: his rookie. See, Deshaun was a lot better than these

1215
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: guys to me. DeShawn in two thousand twenty two is

1216
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: probably going in the top ten. Now, part of the

1217
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: reason he fell was, you know him and jeff Ford,

1218
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: you know they had you know, there's some questions about

1219
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: his work, ethic and stuff. But the moment he got

1220
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: to the NFL is like Jesus. And it's most speed

1221
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers, like four two type guys don't just have

1222
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: that easy of a transition. Most of the wide receivers

1223
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: that translate immediately are like Jamar Chase. You know, physical

1224
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: guys can break some tackles, slants out routes, some back

1225
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: shoulder stuff. Right, It's not like uh, the burners. Now

1226
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: if you're Randy Moss, who was big and could burn obviously,

1227
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's like total package wide

1228
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: receivers and that doesn't know who's work. And I think

1229
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: sometimes when speed is a question, Keenan Allen's a good example.

1230
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Fell in the draft. He was immediately sweet. Michael Crabtree,

1231
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: who was drafted really high. Now, granted the quarterback situation

1232
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: at the time suck, but he's not a burner, and

1233
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: it took him three or four years to kind of

1234
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: get his footing underneath him. But if you look in

1235
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: recent memory, right, DK metcalf A, J Brown, Deebo, Samuel

1236
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, like guys in the second round just dominate immediately.

1237
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: So it's all about team building, philosophies, allocating resources and

1238
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: playing this market because that's that's all this is. It's

1239
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: all it's all market value. How much you're willing to

1240
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: pay for a free agent, how much you're willing to

1241
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: how much draft capital are you willing to use on

1242
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: a player. Uh, you know some are no brainers. Right,

1243
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: you have the number two pick and Nick bos is

1244
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: sitting there. What happens when you have the seventeenth pick

1245
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, the best player on the

1246
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: board is a guard, but we kind of need a

1247
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: pass rusher, you know, we don't need a wide receiver.

1248
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: The best, the top wide receiver owner boards ahead of

1249
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. They can put you in tough spots

1250
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: and it's it's easy to talk about. It's another thing,

1251
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's always easier to make. I've been saying

1252
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: this for a while because I love the quote. It's

1253
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 1: easier to make suggestions than decisions. Making decisions are hard.

1254
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: So why most people are not in decision making power

1255
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: because they can't do it. They either hesitate, they don't know,

1256
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: they get insecure about it. The more decisions you make

1257
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: easier it gets to make decisions right if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a boss, if you're a parent, you know, at

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Speaker 1: first you're like, what the hell do I do? And

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Speaker 1: then your kids like ten years old, and you become

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Speaker 1: pretty easy. Right I'm watching my brother parent right now.

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Speaker 1: The older the kid gets, it's easier for them to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. At first year was like hoping the

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Speaker 1: kid breeze. You know, first time you're a boss, I

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Speaker 1: don't care how well prepared you are, and everyone's looking

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Speaker 1: at you. Right, first time, you get into an NFL

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Speaker 1: hudder huddle, you're like, damn, I'm a starting quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is pretty intense. You know. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: was was green his first year by a year five

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Speaker 1: or six, like you knew what the hell he was doing.

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, same thing. I don't even know what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Now, have a good weekend, and um, subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the podcast, share it with your friends. You guys

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Speaker 1: keep that rocking and rolling. And if you like golf

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this right now is weather delay. It sucks,

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Speaker 1: but uh but yeah. May the peace be with you, audios, godspeed,

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Speaker 1: mm HM game and the volume