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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: An absolutely gorgeous young mom goes for a hike and

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Speaker 2: ends up horribly bludgeoned dead, losing vast quantities of the

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Speaker 2: blood in her body, apparently brutally beaten with a rock,

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Speaker 2: found completely naked, face up on the trail. And still,

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Speaker 2: even though this happened months ago, we don't have the killer.

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Speaker 2: This is a very popular hiking trail that Ma and

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Speaker 2: Pa trail. Then, in a stunning turn, the DNA of

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Speaker 2: the purp I'm assuming she was raped. The DNA from

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Speaker 2: the PERP found in and on the young mom's body

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Speaker 2: is entered into the DNA database. If bam get a

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Speaker 2: hit from another attack all the way in La where

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Speaker 2: the guy is actually caught on door cam leaving the home,

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Speaker 2: but you.

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Speaker 3: Don't see his face. Oh, we still don't have him.

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Speaker 2: We've got his DNA, we've got a general description, but

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Speaker 2: we don't have him. The family is desperate to the

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Speaker 2: point they're actually sending letters out to high schools hoping

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Speaker 2: that a teacher can identify the killer.

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Speaker 3: And so much more. What happened to Rachel Morin? Who?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Where?

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Speaker 2: Whiye when I Nancy Grace, This is Crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us here at crime stories and

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Speaker 2: on serious exem one eleven who.

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Speaker 3: Murdered Rachel Morin.

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Speaker 2: We also know that Ellie law enforcement has stated they

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Speaker 2: believe this is a serial rapist that could blossom into

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Speaker 2: a serial killer.

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Speaker 3: First of all, listen to this.

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Speaker 5: It approximately eleven twenty three last evening, our deputies responded

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Speaker 5: to a report of a mission person. It was reported

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Speaker 5: by the individual's boyfriend that Rachel Morien, who's aged thirty seven,

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Speaker 5: headed out from her home on Old Emerton Road around

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Speaker 5: six pm to go to the Mompot trail Once. She

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Speaker 5: had not returned as and when the expected. The family

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Speaker 5: was obviously concerned. Initial information from the boyfriend again, the

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Speaker 5: caller who reported her mission indicated her car was at

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Speaker 5: the lot at the trailhead here on Williams Street behind

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Speaker 5: like we're independent Brewery is the people that are familiar

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Speaker 5: with bell Air. The car was there, but she was not.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: We're at the trailhead and this is actually where Rachel's

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Speaker 5: car was found last evening one of the parking lots

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Speaker 5: accessed mom potrail here in the town of bel Air.

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Speaker 5: And we're behind me. You see our community policing unit

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Speaker 5: with some of their vehicles that are able when they

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Speaker 5: orginally do patrol different portions of the mom Pot trail,

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Speaker 5: but today we are stepping up those efforts. Through the

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Speaker 5: duration of this investigation.

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Speaker 2: You are hearing the Hertford County share of Jeffrey Galler

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Speaker 2: speaking trying to allay fears of the community. But those

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Speaker 2: fears have not been alleviated because the killer still walks

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Speaker 2: amongst us, and this ain't his first time at the rodeo.

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Speaker 2: We know that he attacked a young woman, a young

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Speaker 2: girl back in LA. You're hearing bel air and you

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Speaker 2: might think bel air as in California, your Hollywood. No,

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Speaker 2: this is bel air Maryland. So he is raping and

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Speaker 2: murdering a woman with a rock in bel Air, Maryland,

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Speaker 2: but his DNA pops up in LA in another attack.

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Speaker 2: This guy's track, he's got to be lighting somewhere.

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Speaker 3: So what do we know.

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Speaker 2: I know that the family of this Maryland mom, a

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Speaker 2: mother of five, Rachel Moore, and her children now are

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Speaker 2: going to be raised without their mother, is desperate, sending

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Speaker 2: letters to LA high schools pleading begging for help to

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Speaker 2: as recently as two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Where are they getting that number?

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Speaker 2: So what they think the killer may be nineteen twenty,

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Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two? Is that what they think? And

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Speaker 2: why do they think that? Is it because of that

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Speaker 2: But we know the family and law enforcement desperate no

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Speaker 2: further information on the defendant, the killer of Rachel Moore

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to more of what the sheriff says.

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Speaker 5: You know, her injuries are not consistent with any kind

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Speaker 5: of accident or shelf harm. You know, this is definitely

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Speaker 5: a homicide investigation. Our investigators arriving on the scene. It

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Speaker 5: the investigators arriving on the scene, this is a homicide,

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Speaker 5: and that question was out there as well. How does

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Speaker 4: We know?

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Speaker 6: Michael Gabriski says Moren's body was found in a pool

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Speaker 6: According to his daughter, there was a rock caked in blood.

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Speaker 2: We're learning more and more about how Rachel Moran's body

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Speaker 2: was found. You know, you think when you get DNA

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Speaker 2: But listen to the in the modus operandi method of

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Speaker 2: operation as described by Crime on Lines Dave Mack.

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Speaker 7: Since the body of Rachel Marin was discovered in a

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Speaker 7: man Pat Trail, Michael Gabraziski has spoken out to the

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Speaker 7: media about what he and his stepdaughter found or witnessed.

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Speaker 7: The following information has been reported as fact by Michael Gabrazski.

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Speaker 7: Claim number one, Gabraziski's stepdaughter, Cecilia, discovered the body of

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Speaker 7: Rachel Marin in a drainage tunnel. Claim number two. Rachel

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Speaker 7: Marin was lying on her back, fully naked, and she

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Speaker 7: been smashed with a rock. Claim number three. There was

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Speaker 7: a fifteen to twenty foot blood trail, so it looked

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Speaker 7: number four the right side of her face was gone,

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Speaker 7: and claim number five, it looked like the killer was

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Speaker 7: trying to erase her identity.

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Speaker 2: With me an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 2: what we know right now. But first I want to

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Speaker 2: go to a renowned medical examiner, board certified forensic pathologist,

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Speaker 2: former medical examiner, Clark County. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Clark counties across the country, but this is Clark County, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: also known as Sin.

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Speaker 3: City aka Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Never a lack of business for a medical examiner in Vegas. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Doctor jen Gorniac is with us from what you are hearing.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Gorniac.

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Speaker 2: When I hear the right side of our face was gone,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Gorniac, I normally hear that kind of language when

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Speaker 2: there has been a gunshot, wound, a GSW where the

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Speaker 2: face is completely blown off and you cannot identify the

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Speaker 2: victim by sight. You have to do it by fingerprint.

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Speaker 2: You can't do it by teeth, teeth are gone by clothing.

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Speaker 2: But here knowing we think we know that the murder

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Speaker 2: weapon was a rock. What kind of a barbaric attack

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Speaker 2: on this She looks like a model. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've seen her pictures, Doctor Gorniac. There's one of

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Speaker 2: her in a swimsuit, and this is a mother of five.

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Speaker 2: I'm a mother of two. I jump in a pool,

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Speaker 2: not kidding. I'm not kidding. I wear my tights and

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Speaker 2: She's got a beautiful face.

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Speaker 3: But that's not all.

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Speaker 2: Devoted mother. Dr Gorniac held down a job the works,

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Speaker 2: and when I saw that picture of her, I didn't

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Speaker 3: But she did.

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Speaker 2: And now I hear I understand from things that sheriff

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Speaker 2: has told us that the killer bludgeoned her. And I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna need you on this, Doctor Bethany Marshall. Bludgend Rachel's

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Speaker 2: face so badly. Half of her face was gone.

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Speaker 8: Right, yes, And so we also know that she obviously

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Speaker 8: obviously taking good care of herself, and so bludgeon to death.

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Speaker 8: They say there's a rock with blood on it.

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Speaker 8: Faces is gone, so that is depending on the size

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Speaker 8: I'm not a psychologist in any sense, but to disfigure

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Speaker 2: So, doctor Gorney, it just a personal question. I like

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Speaker 2: to just listen to you talk all day long, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've noticed how sometimes I get carried away

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Speaker 2: and I interrupt people. I just learned so much when

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Speaker 2: I'll listen to you. When you say just go out

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Speaker 3: Do people ask you about cases?

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Speaker 2: Are you more comfortable talking about cases like you just

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Speaker 8: Well, it's obvious. I'm passionate about the work I do,

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Speaker 8: you know, giving a voice to the voiceless and able

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Speaker 8: to tell their stories. But when people ask me about

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Speaker 8: what these eyes have seen. So I really don't like

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Speaker 8: talking about those cases when people ask, because it's really

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Speaker 3: These people's lives.

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Speaker 8: So I try to be very respectful of what their

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Speaker 8: And it's easy to talk to you, you know, when

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Speaker 8: it not so quote unquote gory for your listeners. But

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Speaker 8: I don't like talking about these cases unless I have to.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's interesting you say that.

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Speaker 2: Fred Longwell joining me, former Deputy States Attorney out of

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Speaker 2: Calvert City there in Maryland, former Assistant sites Attorney and

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Speaker 2: Prince George specializing in sex offenses and homicides. Friend, when

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Speaker 2: people ask me about cases, I have, you know, standard responses,

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Speaker 2: because I feel like it's sometimes revictimizing the victim to tell,

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Speaker 2: as doctor Gorniak said, the gory details of it. But

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Speaker 2: you know, frim, I want to tell the story in

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Speaker 2: its entirety. It's very hard for people to imagine what

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Speaker 2: happens to a murder victim.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to. It's so.

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Speaker 2: Horrible. Like when I think about my fiance Keith, that

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Speaker 2: was murdered. I know he was shot five times in

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Speaker 2: the face, of the neck, in the head, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think about, oh, half of his face may have

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Speaker 2: been blown away.

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Speaker 3: I've never thought that till this minute.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I imagine him just like I knew him

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Speaker 2: in life, with some like maybe little dots on his

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Speaker 2: face where the bullet entered, you know, because I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't want to think.

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Speaker 2: About what he endured or what he lived through, because

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Speaker 2: Killer took a certain delight in disfiguring Rachel Moore.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing that all on my own. What are you saying?

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Speaker 10: Early in life they fuse aggression with sex.

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Speaker 2: Hey, doctor Bethany, have you ever treated a sadist?

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Speaker 3: Just curious. Did they get a divorce.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'd hate to think of that woman stuck with

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Speaker 11: Okay, off your He was a raging alcoholic and he

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Speaker 10: The toilet pink. So he was a very devious guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and enough about your well healed rodeo clients. Let

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Speaker 2: me get back to Rachel Moore. But although doctor Bethany,

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Speaker 2: I could listen to you just like doctor Gorniac all

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Speaker 5: Hi, this is Harf Kenny, Sheriff Jeff Gaylor. It's been

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Speaker 5: People who are in her close inner circle and others

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Speaker 2: Okay, what I learned from all of that talking is

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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Joining me in addition to Ron Bateman, a former homicide

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Speaker 2: reporter Fox forty five in Baltimore. Vincent, this happened back

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Nancy, that's exactly right. But unfortunately, you know, I

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Speaker 3: That's a really good point.

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Speaker 2: Vincent Hill joining me right now, a former sheriff that

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Speaker 2: has gone to the scene where Rachel Morien was raped

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Speaker 2: Ron Bateman, as I said, former homicide under carbon narcotics agent.

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Speaker 2: You can find him amazingly at ronbatemanbooks dot com. He's

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Speaker 2: the author of a crime trilogy. Just solving crimes wasn't

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Speaker 2: enough for him. He wrote an incredible trilogy called Silent

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Speaker 2: Bateman books. Ron Bateman, I want to hear, first of all,

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Speaker 2: congratulations on your books and your doc but what can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the scene was in a very barren location, you know,

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Speaker 4: Answer no. I want to offer a question real quick

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Speaker 3: But no, Doctor Gorniac, No, Doctor Garniac.

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Speaker 2: Of course, with all my medical knowledge, I dare say

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Speaker 8: So it would be difficult, but that's something to look

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Speaker 2: Yet I understand that bel Air, Maryland, has about ten

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen his face from anybody out in LA.

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Speaker 4: And really, I'm telling you, when I was a homicide detective,

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Speaker 2: Hold on, have you looked at that doorbell cam? I have, ron, maman,

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Speaker 2: Because it happened at night. How do I know it

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Speaker 4: I agree, But there's also someone walking him to the door.

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Speaker 4: It appears there's another body in that door.

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Speaker 4: can have that the Harper County sheriffhopics can use. But look,

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Speaker 4: at his body. He appears to be in cheap Have

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Speaker 4: they checked all gym's at a twenty five mile radius.

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Speaker 4: He's got a phone in his pocket, He's got a job,

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Speaker 4: he pays for that. They checked the local businesses? Those

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Speaker 4: things I really would like to know.

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Speaker 2: You know, another thing that could have needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it has been done, is what

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Speaker 2: I call a data dump. And we've seen it happen.

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Speaker 2: I think it happened in the Brian Coburger case where

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Speaker 2: cell phone usage around the quadruple murder scene of the

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Speaker 2: Idaho University students, all the cell phones being used in

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Speaker 2: that area between say one am and six am. You

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Speaker 2: can get that from a stingray device, all the cell phones,

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Speaker 2: and then you start and it's a task, but you

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Speaker 2: can do it. And on this trail was his cell

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Speaker 2: phone with him? Did he have it turned on? Same

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Speaker 2: thing in La I'm looking at the doorbell camp right now.

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Speaker 2: You see him coming out. It's a neighborhood with I

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Speaker 2: would say a fairly nice suburban home.

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Speaker 3: You see him a little wreath on the door. He

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Speaker 3: comes out holding his shirt.

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Speaker 2: In his left hand, and he is using his right

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Speaker 2: hand mostly, but he doesn't have a shirt on. I'm

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Speaker 2: just curious if they've done a cell phone data dump.

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Speaker 4: Good point and look at his hair. His hair, had

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Speaker 4: he checked with all the hairstylists in a twenty five

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Speaker 4: mile radius from that scene. Hairstylists know the back of

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Speaker 4: someone's heads. They cut their hair all the time, and

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Speaker 4: that would be a basic thing but that they have

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Speaker 4: to do. And we just don't know what they've done

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Speaker 4: out there in LA Because the answer lies out there,

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Speaker 4: I believe would really help us.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're trying to get to the bottom of who

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Speaker 2: murdered Rachel morn. Now we know DNA was taken, but

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Speaker 2: we also know a little more that's going and I

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Speaker 2: want to take a listen to Sidney Sumner Crime online.

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Speaker 13: Police still don't have a suspect in the Rechel Moore

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Speaker 13: and murder, but they do have DNA and according to

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Speaker 13: the Hartford County Sheriff's Office, they have matched the DNA

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Speaker 13: to a home invasion and assault of a young girl

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Speaker 13: in Los Angeles. Fox News reports that ce C Moore,

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Speaker 13: a DNA detective with Parabond Nano Labs, says the person

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Speaker 13: has not yet been identified, but he is responsible for

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Speaker 13: two separate crimes, creating the perfect application of investigative genetic genealogy.

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Speaker 13: In this traditional DNA analysis and public records are combined

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Speaker 13: to build family trees that allow investigators to close in

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Speaker 13: on suspects. More says genetic genealogy has been used to

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Speaker 13: close cold cases, but she has advocated for this to

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Speaker 13: be used in current cases and suspects. The FBI is

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Speaker 13: using the method to find Rachel Mooren's killer.

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Speaker 2: In other words, while we may not be able to

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Speaker 2: get his DNA out of the DNA database, you can

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Speaker 2: use genealogical DNA genetic DNA. You plug it into public

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Speaker 2: genealogy websites. You know, those people that raise their family

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Speaker 2: tree back to the Mayflower, them people that use genetic

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Speaker 2: genealogy on public sites. You plug this DNA in the

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Speaker 2: killer's DNA that was obtained from the murder scene and

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Speaker 2: the rape scene in LA and you see, if you

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Speaker 2: get even a partial match to somebody that has researched

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Speaker 2: their family DNA their heritage, then you start working down

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Speaker 2: until you find somebody that was in that area at

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Speaker 2: the time of the murders. Now, remember there have been

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Speaker 2: a lot of murders and rapes where it took time

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Speaker 2: to find the killer based on DNA, and I'm referring

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Speaker 2: specifically to, for instance, Karina the Toronto Take a listen

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Speaker 2: in our cup one eleven.

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Speaker 7: Karinavitrono and her father usually joined together, but on this

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Speaker 7: particular day, his back was bothering him and he couldn't go.

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Speaker 7: Phil Vitrono, a retired firefighter, asked her not to go,

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Speaker 7: but it was still daylight. She felt safe. When Karinavitronto

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Speaker 7: didn't return, her father called police went looking for her

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Speaker 7: on the trail they usually jogged. He found his daughter

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Speaker 7: face down on the ground dead. He called ms immediately.

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Speaker 7: After a six month Manheim police arrested twenty year old

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Speaker 7: Janel Lewis. He confessed to the rape and murder of Karinavitronto.

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Speaker 2: There are so many similar cases, but let's talk about

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Speaker 2: Eliza Fletcher.

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Speaker 3: The DNA of her killer and rapist.

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Speaker 2: Was already on file, but nobody knew it because that

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Speaker 2: rape kit had never been analyzed and was sitting on

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Speaker 2: a shelf. Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online one fourteen.

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Speaker 7: Eliza Fletcher likes to go out for an early morning

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Speaker 7: run in Memphis. Fletcher was jogging down Central Avenue around

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Speaker 7: four thirty in the morning, when investigators say she was

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Speaker 7: approached by someone who forced her into a dark colored

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Speaker 7: suv and drove off. Security cameras in the area of

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Speaker 7: where Fletcher was jogging help police narrow their search. As

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Speaker 7: community members and police search for Fletcher, detectives in South

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Speaker 7: Memphis find the body of Eliza Fletcher yards away from

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Speaker 7: where police say thirty eight year old Kleiotha Abstin came

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Speaker 7: just hours after the abduction of Flesher and washed his

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Speaker 7: clothes and his brothers sink. Abstin is charged with the

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Speaker 7: specially aggravated kidnapping and evidence tampering, as well as murder.

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Speaker 3: DNA match.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: The family of Rachel Morn is not waiting on genetic genealogy,

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Speaker 2: which could take a really long time to apprehend her killer,

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Speaker 2: leaving five children without a mother. They've also hired a

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Speaker 2: criminal profiler listen to Dave.

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Speaker 3: Matt ninety three.

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Speaker 7: Rachel Morrin's family is working with profiler Pat Brown to

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Speaker 7: provide more information about the possible suspect in Morn's murder.

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Speaker 7: The possible suspect is Hispanic Early to mid twenties, five

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Speaker 7: foot nine, about one hundred and sixty pounds. Profiler Pat

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Speaker 7: Brown adds this person is likely narcissistic, lacks sympathy, he's

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Speaker 7: manipulative and a pathological liar. Speaking with wmar two, Matt McMahon,

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Speaker 7: father of Rachel Marin's oldest child, Fay, says they're trying

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Speaker 7: to get as much personal information out to the public

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Speaker 7: in the hopes that someone will recognize him and call police.

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Speaker 14: Someone out there does know that person's name. Someone's going

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Speaker 14: to look at that video. Someone's going to look at

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Speaker 14: the still shots from the video. And I'm as frustrated

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Speaker 14: as everybody else. I read the comments on social media.

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Speaker 14: Where's the other side of his face? If we had it,

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Speaker 14: we would put it out there. We just haven't obtained

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Speaker 14: it yet. Hopefully there's some additional video footage that will

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Speaker 14: come our way. But off of what's there, off of

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Speaker 14: his build, off of his walk, off of his appearance,

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Speaker 14: there's someone out there in the world who knows exactly

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Speaker 14: who that person is, and we need that person to

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Speaker 14: tell us so that we can get a match on

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Speaker 14: the DNA and put this monster behind mars.

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Speaker 2: So will a criminal profiler be able to solve the case,

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Speaker 2: to be able to help solve the case. What's your

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Speaker 2: experience with criminal profilers, Ron Bateman.

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Speaker 4: It's just another tool. We use the Behavioral Analysis Unit

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Speaker 4: out of the FBI. I've done that on a few cases.

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Speaker 4: It's just another tool, you know, to add to your

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Speaker 4: pile of goodies for your suspect.

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Speaker 2: And what about it, fran Longwill, You tried a lot

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Speaker 2: of homicide cases and you're joining us from this jurisdiction

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Speaker 2: of Maryland. What do you make a criminal profiler hired

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Speaker 2: by the family.

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Speaker 9: I've never used a profiler, but I have had cases

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Speaker 9: where I was doing reconsideration and the day before the

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Speaker 9: police called me. My detective called and said, hey, we

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Speaker 9: just got a hit on this guy. He has another

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Speaker 9: first degree rate twenty years ago and it was a

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Speaker 9: DNA hit. And the only reason they had it was

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Speaker 9: because it takes a long time to run all those

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Speaker 9: cold cases through the system, and when they're running through

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Speaker 9: the old cases through that's when they get the code

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Speaker 9: of hits. So we wound up getting him, but that

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Speaker 9: was after twenty years. It sometimes takes that long. Like

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Speaker 9: they said, he's got to be arrested before you can

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Speaker 9: get that match match.

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Speaker 2: I also Vincent Hill, have never used a profiler to

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Speaker 2: solve the case because very often I can deduce already

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Speaker 2: what they are saying, like I can look at the

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Speaker 2: video and tell a lot of what we are learning.

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Speaker 2: But there are insights to be gained. It also tells

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Speaker 2: me the family is getting desperate guys. As I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: the family desperate now approaching high school teachers.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen hour cut one oh one. This is

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Speaker 3: Rachel Blania more In.

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Speaker 15: Family attorney Randolph Rice told CBS News the reason the

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Speaker 15: family is reaching out to schools in Los Angeles is

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Speaker 15: the suspect could have been in high school as early

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Speaker 15: as two years ago. They are hoping a teacher who

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Speaker 15: taught him and saw him every single day during the

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Speaker 15: school year will recognize the suspect. According to Rice, the

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Speaker 15: crime has not been covered in the Los Angeles area

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Speaker 15: the way that it has been covered in Maryland. They're

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Speaker 15: hoping someone unaware of the search for the suspect will

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Speaker 15: recognize the person on the flyer and reach out and

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Speaker 15: share information that could lead to the capture of the suspect.

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Speaker 2: And the family is making homemade flyers begging for help

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Speaker 2: take a listen.

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Speaker 13: Even though an arrest has not been made in the

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Speaker 13: murder of Rachel Morin, investigators do have information about the

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Speaker 13: suspected killer. DNA from the morn crime scene linked the

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Speaker 13: suspect to a home invasion and assault in Los Angeles

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Speaker 13: in March of last year. Using that information, the family

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Speaker 13: of Rachel Morin have sent letters to high schools in

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Speaker 13: the Los Angeles area, hoping a former teacher will recognize

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Speaker 13: the suspect. The Daily Mail reports the family created a

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Speaker 13: flyer using still images from the doorbell camera footage of

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Speaker 13: the suspects leaving the scene of the home invasion assault

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Speaker 13: in LA, and sent out ten thousand flyers to homes

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Speaker 13: near the LA crime scene. The flyer asks for help

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Speaker 13: I identifying the person with the message from Hartford County

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Speaker 13: Sheriff Jeff Gahller, this suspect will kill again.

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Speaker 2: To visit Hill, joining US anchor reporter Fox forty five

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore, this jurisdiction. Former cop and private investigator, author

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Speaker 2: of playbook to a murder, Vincent Hill, what do you

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Speaker 2: think is happening now and what should be happening now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Nancy, like you said, the family is very desperate

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Speaker 12: in those letters out to those high schools, you know,

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Speaker 12: saying that he could have been in high school within

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Speaker 12: the last two years. We know the approximate age of

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Speaker 12: this suspected killer is in his early twenties, so if

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Speaker 12: you subtract that eighteen nineteen, you could have graduated from

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Speaker 12: high school. But there is a problem with that, Nancy.

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Speaker 12: And here's the thing. Just think of how close Los

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Speaker 12: Angeles is to Mexico. And we do know that this

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Speaker 12: suspect is of Hispanic descent, So it's a great tool

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Speaker 12: to try to go after and identify this guy. But

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Speaker 12: I would not get my hopes up saying that this

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Speaker 12: is going to lead to this guy's name of who

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Speaker 12: killed Rachel warrenback in August of last year.

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Speaker 2: Ron maybe, and you've seen the saying and evaluated it,

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I agree, and Vincent will definitely probably agree with me

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Speaker 4: on this one. Why in the heck this is so

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Speaker 4: frustrating is does it take the family and their lawyer

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Speaker 4: to do all this police work. That's why I said earlier,

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Speaker 4: what police work is being done out in LA What

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Speaker 4: is the Sheriff's office? You know, do they have a

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Speaker 4: desk sitting at LAPD. Are they working hand in hand?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. I'm not going to bash anybody,

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Speaker 4: but it just doesn't seem like they're doing their work.

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Speaker 4: They're really trying to solve this case. I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's right in front of them. If someone just puts

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Speaker 4: the time in vincent, do you agree with that?

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Speaker 12: I agree one hundred percent. I'll go further off what

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Speaker 12: Ron just said, Like, fancy imagine he was caught on

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Speaker 12: rain camera leaving the house. You look at an affluent neighborhood,

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Speaker 12: there's probably ring cameras that would have captured his car

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Speaker 12: to captured the license plate or leaving the vehicle description

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Speaker 12: which way he fled. So there's a lot of missing

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Speaker 12: tools here to this investigation that we don't know if

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Speaker 12: LAPD is actually looking into.

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Speaker 2: We also understand the family has drummed up thousands in

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Speaker 2: reward money. Take a listen to Sydney Sumner Crime Online.

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Speaker 13: The law firm representing the Morin family, Rice Mrtha and Sources,

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Speaker 13: has announced that after the law firm doubled the reward

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Speaker 13: to twenty thousand dollars for information leading to the capture

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Speaker 13: and conviction of Rachel Morin's killer, an anonymous woman from

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Speaker 13: bel Air, Maryland, has contributed ten thousand dollars, bringing the

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Speaker 13: total reward to thirty thousand dollars. Based on the DNA

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Speaker 13: found at Rachel Morin's crime scene being matched to a

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Speaker 13: home invasion assault in Los Angeles that provided a video

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Speaker 13: of a possible suspect. Investigators believe the suspect is about

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Speaker 13: five feet nine inches tall, around one hundred and sixty pounds,

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Speaker 13: in his early to mid twenties, and of Hispanic descent.

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Speaker 2: The reward now up to thirty thousand dollars for info

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Speaker 2: leading to the arrest of Rachel Moren killer and is

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Speaker 2: there a lead a potential suspect in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Nicole parton Investigative Reporter Crime Stories.

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Speaker 16: Months after going for a walk on the Ma and

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Speaker 16: Pau Trail in Hartford County and never returning home, the

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Speaker 16: murder of Rachel moore and is still a mystery. DNA

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Speaker 16: was found at the crime scene and matched to a

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Speaker 16: home invasion in Los Angeles five months earlier, but investigators

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Speaker 16: are still not sure who the DNA belongs to. The

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Speaker 16: only evidence made public is a video of the man

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Speaker 16: they believe is a suspect leaving the home invasion scene

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Speaker 16: in LA. But now WMAR two reports investigators are following

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Speaker 16: up on a lead in Washington, d C. And even

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Speaker 16: though detectives aren't calling the person a suspect, the hope

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Speaker 16: is this person can point them in the right direction

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Speaker 16: to identify the person as a suspect.

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Speaker 2: If you have information, or think you have information on

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Speaker 2: the killer of Rachel Mourn, please dial to all free

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five four zero eight four seven seven

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Speaker 2: repeat eight eight eight five four zero eight four seven seven.

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Speaker 3: Goodbye, friend,