1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: It's our two in this Monday, Dan and the Dan. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: It's Dan Patrick Show. More of your phone calls, as 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: we always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: The very polite Tyler standing by to take your phone calls. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: DP show. We say good morning to Charlotteville's Fox Sports 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Radio one oh two point nine FM and fourteen fifty AM, Charlottesville, Virginia. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Dan Patrick Show. And now 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: as we get closer to four hundred cities around America 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: carrying this program, we'll talk to some football. Peter King 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: will join us coming up, and we'll check in with 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: the Colts because they've got some real drama there, and 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: your phone calls are always welcome. Poll question for hour 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: two is going to be one Seaton O'Connor. We got 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: a couple of. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: Them up there, Dan, Aaron Rodgers will stay with the 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Jets for two and a half years. You'd take the 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: over or under? Right now? Eighty two percent of the 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: audience are taking the under. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Oohdang? Okay? 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Is it only two and out? 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, because we were wondering, what's a few a 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: few weeks for Joe Burrow being out, and we decided 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: that few starts with three? Three or more's few? Aaron 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Rodger is going to play a few more years? Would 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: that be two and a half is the over under? 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: So I'm going to talk to Peter King and see 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: if he's going over. I'm gonna say, Peter, I'm gonna say, 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Peter King goes over two and a half seasons for 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers with the Jets. He just paid a visit. 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Aaron told him something, Maybe he just gathered 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: some information being a great reporter. What else do we 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: have Seaton O'Connor. 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Uh A, I have one whose comments were more out 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: of line Sean Payton's or Jim Mersays. Sean Payton talking 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: about a fellow coach, Jim Mersay basically saying if I 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: died and my running back never played again, no one 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: would ever care. 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: I would say Sean Payton is out of line. 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: For violating the ro Code of Coaches. 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Yes, ethics, yes, yeah, yeah, the coaching communities. 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Jim Hersey a little more par for the course. 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised when Jim Mersey has something to say, 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: and when it's out of left field, I'm not surprised. 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Sean Payton. I was a little surprised that there was 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: some heat attached to that as he's directing that at 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett, who was the coach you well didn't last 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: the whole season, but basically saying, this is the worst 52 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: coaching job that I've ever seen, and because of that, 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson wasn't able to play well. It just felt 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: like I'm going to drag this guy down one more 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: time and then I'm going to elevate my sainthood status. 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: See what I did with that. Todd was sweet. Yeah, 57 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: former Saints said coch okay, but it felt like he 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: was he was going out of his way to attack 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett. So then Aaron Rodgers gets into it and 60 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: he's saying, well, he said this. 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: It made me feel bad that someone who's accomplished a 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: lot in the league is that insecure that they have 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 5: to take another man down to set themselves up for 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: some sort of easy fall if it doesn't go well 65 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: for that team this year. I thought it was way 66 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: out of line, inappropriate, and I think he needs to 67 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: keep my coach's names out of his mouth. 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: And case you're wondering the Jets and Broncos week five, 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: that's what I love. Yeah, I mean, we write the promo, 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: we can do it already. Have Aaron Rodgers with those 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: words Sean Payton. It'd be great if Sean Payton was 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: playing quarterback for the Broncos, that would be nice. What 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: are we going with our two season? 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna go with the We could go 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: with the who's comments were more out of line? 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: We also have who this was? Paul? 77 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: Who was wronger? Or who was more wrong wrong? Who 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: was wronger? Who was more wronger? Sean Payton for his 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: initial comments are Aaron Rodgers' reaction to them? 80 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: No, I'm okay with Aaron Rodgers having Now, if Nathaniel 81 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Hackett was in his coach with the Jets, I wonder 82 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: if he would have said, you know, gave us the 83 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: Will Smith at the Academy Awards with Chris Rock, you 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: keep my coach's name out of your mouth. He goes 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: over there and smacks you. 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: Ever go back and watch that clip online. 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: It's wild. 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 6: It's a surreal night, beyond surreal. 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, I first of all. It was a lame joke 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: by Chris Rock, like a g I Jane joke, is like, 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: come on, you're better than that. 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: That's a super weak reference. 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: But but you can watch Will Smith. He's okay with it, 94 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: and then he looks and sees that his wife is 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: not okay with this, and then all of a sudden, 96 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: we're yeah, that's that's sometimes that you'll be laughing and 97 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: then you look over and your wife is not laughing, 98 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: and then you stop laughing. That's funny right now. It's 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: that's not keep my wife's name out of your mouth. 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: I just I'd say I had your back there. 101 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah that was good, Yeah, all right, yes boy. 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 7: If you watch the clip, the level of confusion in 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 7: the room because Will Smith is this gigantic actor and 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 7: Chris Rock makes jokes and he smacks him hard. It 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 7: wasn't you know, a push and then he goes back 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 7: to a seat. There's people in the crowd going, was 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 7: that reels? It's a bit because it's it doesn't happen 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 7: a lot of award shows, Yes. 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 8: Marv, that ride home must have been awkward. Will Smith 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 8: won the Academy Award. People forget he won. 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: Let him give his acceptance speech. 112 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 8: I mean, but I just think on the ride home, Man, 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 8: I can't believe I won this, right, Jada, You know well, 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 8: I just think it's funny how you laughed at first. 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 8: Then I had to look at you like I. 116 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: Wonder how many times he went to parties lat night 117 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: and did the like pump fake slap thing like yeah, yeah, 118 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: I need another drink. 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: What I'm being a guess he didn't go to any 120 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: parties that night? 121 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 8: Yes, smart, I'm almost certain he went to a party. 122 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 8: I gotta look it up on the Twitter or whatever 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 8: it's called. 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: On the Twitter. Wait, it's on the X, isn't it. 125 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 8: Yeah, let me look on X on the X. 126 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: Nate Atkins Colts Insider for the end of an Apotlee 127 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: Star had a lot of really good things talking about 128 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: the ten thoughts on Jonathan Taylor's contract standoff with the 129 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: Colts and Nate joins Is from Colts Camp. All right, 130 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: give us the sort of cliff notes version here, Nate, 131 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: How did we get to this point with Jonathan Taylor 132 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: and Jim ersay. 133 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 9: Man? 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 10: This has been something that's been building really since last 135 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 10: season ended. Jonathan Taylor coming off of a high ankle sprain, 136 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 10: needed ankle surgery, got it in January, and then was 137 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 10: entering a contract year, and he felt at the time 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 10: that he was going to be able to just kind 139 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 10: of play it the way he's always played it, which 140 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 10: is nice guy, team, team player, all of that. This 141 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 10: team is rewarded player after player heading into their contract year, 142 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 10: whether it's Quintin Nelson, Shaquille Leonard, Braden Smith, on and on. 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 10: And then when he got to somewhere around May realized 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 10: that the offers weren't coming. The Colts were kind of 145 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 10: in a new place with Shane Stik and they wanted 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 10: to let some things play out. They want to see 147 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 10: how his health was going to be, so he switched up, 148 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 10: switched up agents, and ever since that moment, it's just 149 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 10: kind of ramped up to where where the offer's not coming. 150 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 10: Training camp arriving, the threat of having to practice and 151 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 10: risk more injury without security just got him in a 152 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 10: place where he didn't really know what to do, and 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 10: so it's just really ramped up to the point where 154 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 10: they met on a bus Jonathan Taylor and Jim Mersey 155 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 10: just was that two days ago and met for an 156 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 10: hour and realized that they were not anywhere close together. 157 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 10: And that's when it came out that he's requested a trade, 158 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 10: and Jim Mersey talked to us and many other outlets 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 10: and said we're not trading him. And so this has 160 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 10: become just an ultimate staredown of two sides of just 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 10: flat out don't trust each other. But there's not really 162 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 10: a clear resolution because the Colts value him enough to 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 10: want him to be here for Anthony Richardson, help him, 164 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 10: support him for this year, but not promise anything beyond that, 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 10: and not promise the negotiation toil after the season ends, 166 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 10: which is obviously not what Jonathan Taylor wants. 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Jonathan Taylor's switch agents Saquon Barkley switched agents. 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: What are they hoping to get from the new agents 169 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: that they didn't get from the old agents as far 170 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: as getting more money. 171 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 10: It's really just a new negotiating tactic. Like I said last, 172 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 10: Jonathan's grown up here in the Colts the past three 173 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 10: years where just just a year ago at this time, 174 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 10: Quintin Nelson was in the exact same spot and the 175 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 10: Colts when we talked, Chris Ballard said, you know, I'm 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 10: not going to talk contracts, but Quentin Nelson's a cult. 177 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 10: It's going to happen. And then the night before the season, 178 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 10: he gets sixty million dollars guaranteed in the biggest contract 179 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 10: in the history of football for a guard. And so 180 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 10: Jonathan thought as the you know, the clear best player 181 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 10: in that offense back in at least twenty twenty one 182 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 10: when he won the rushing title. 183 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I think he just thought it. 184 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 10: Was a formality. And the fact that it got so 185 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 10: long into you know, into almost June and realize he's 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 10: not he hasn't even gotten any single offer, not even 187 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 10: a low ball offer from them. It just was so 188 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 10: out of character with what he'd seen so far, and 189 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 10: he just decided, you know, I don't know what else 190 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 10: to do. He's trying to get ahead of it, d 191 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 10: right as the running back market is crumbling. It's it's 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 10: not you know, he's just not sure what cars to play. 193 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 10: So he decided to kind of move it to a 194 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 10: nuclear level. And the Colts really didn't give him any 195 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 10: other options because they didn't make a low ball offer 196 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 10: that he could even say, Okay, I can take some 197 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 10: kind of offer that's out there. To him, no offer 198 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 10: just means no options. 199 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Tell me what Jimmers say is saying in this sound bite, if. 200 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor's the league, no one's 201 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 4: going to miss this. 202 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: The league goes on. 203 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we know that the National Football 204 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: rolls on. It doesn't matter. You know who who comes 205 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 4: and who goes. 206 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Where did this come from? 207 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 10: I'd actually ask that question to Jim Mercy, not on 208 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 10: that topic. I was just trying to get him to 209 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 10: open up on the debriefing meeting on the bus, and 210 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 10: as best I can tell, I think his message to 211 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 10: Jonathan is just like, you need to realize the spot 212 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 10: you're in, the opportunity you have to go out there 213 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 10: and build something dynamic with Anthony Richardson. And the message 214 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 10: he's trying to put out there is if you bet 215 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 10: on yourself, have a big year in a contract year, 216 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 10: then it'll all work out. But you understand why in 217 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 10: this current you know, stay of the running back market, 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 10: why Jonathan's not listening to that, especially when there's that 219 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 10: franchise tag lingering out there. Teams use all the time 220 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 10: on running backs. There isn't this. There's no pot of 221 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 10: gold at the end of the rainbow right now for 222 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 10: running backs. The pot of gold is a franchise tag 223 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 10: that was initially designed as a window to get a 224 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 10: long term deal done. Instead, what it looks like to 225 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 10: running backs is a way to just rent them, run 226 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 10: up the mileage on their carriers and their health, and 227 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 10: then set them in a free agency as some lower 228 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 10: version of themselves. So it's a messagers they thought he 229 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 10: could get through of like, come on, be a team player, 230 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 10: get on board with this thing. And Jonathan's like, okay, 231 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 10: show it through some kind of action. 232 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: But we're talking to Nate Atkins. He covers the Colts 233 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: for the Indianapolis Star. The more I thought about it, 234 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: it's personal for the player, it's business for the owner. 235 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: But here is an owner who inherited a team. Jonathan 236 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: Taylor is working for his money. Jim Mersey got his money, 237 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: he was given his money. He woke up on third base, 238 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's done things to enhance the value 239 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: and all that. But Jonathan Taylor is going, this is 240 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: my livelihood here. So the disconnect may be how each 241 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: other views one another. He's business, this is personal, and 242 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: they've maintained those battle lines. 243 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 10: Oh, it's absolutely that, and that's why that comment I 244 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 10: think has gotten so much, you know, dialogue is that 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 10: to compare the privilege of an NFL owner to a 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 10: running back right now, is is just kind of very 247 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 10: out of line, you know, like of course, you know, 248 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 10: in that analogy, yes, Jim Mercy could die tomorrow, but 249 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 10: there's not a real present threat that could have him 250 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 10: out of his position in this league in two years. 251 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 10: Whereas for Jonathan Taylor, you know, another couple injuries, serious injuries, 252 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 10: and that's exactly what he's facing, and he will have 253 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 10: not you know, he doesn't have the generational wealth to 254 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 10: fall back on. Whereas if Jim Mersey, if he decided, 255 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 10: you know, if for some reason he got edged out 256 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 10: of being an owner, he's still got He's still set 257 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 10: up financially for life, so's his kids and his grandkids. 258 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 10: Jonathan just got married this, you know, this past spring. 259 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 10: So he's wondering, when do I get even anything that 260 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 10: looks remotely like that privilege that you're talking about, And 261 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 10: that's why the disconnect just keeps on. 262 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Nate. Thanks, we'll be following. 263 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time. 264 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for having me. 265 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Nate Adkins covers the Colts for the Indianapolis Star. We 266 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: got drama as a column today. Ten thoughts on Jonathan 267 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Taylor's contracts, stand off with the Colts and where it 268 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: goes from here. Battle lines are drawn here. Jacob in Indiana, Hey, Jake, 269 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 270 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 11: Hey? 271 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 9: Dan, I have a going Hey, but hey, just a 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 9: quick question on this running back situation, especially like the Colts. 273 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 9: With what the Colts got going on, what do you 274 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 9: think the value of just having a happy locker room, 275 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 9: especially with they got star running back with a young 276 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 9: quarterback that they got now, keeping that, keeping that locker 277 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 9: room happy and and you know, just just keep going. 278 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: Owners don't want to reset the market. Uh. You know, 279 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: the Browns did this with Deshaun Watson and and so 280 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: the trickle down we saw that. You know, the Ravens 281 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: weren't happy at all because what that meant for Lamar 282 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: Jackson some of these other quarterbacks subsequently. But the Browns go, 283 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: we're desperate, got to get a quarterback. We're going to 284 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: overpay for Deshaun Watson. The owners don't like when owners 285 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: go rogue like this. It's like, hey, come on, wink wink, 286 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: let's keep the salaries. You know, in this area here, 287 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: but the Browns went rogue here and Jim rsay, you know, 288 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: he probably considers himself the old guard that I don't 289 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: want to disrupt this. I don't want to change the 290 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: salary structure. I love Jonathan Taylor, but if I die 291 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: and he dies, nobody cares. The NFL moves on. Well, 292 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: you you do care about him, but you know, why 293 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: pay him? Dalvin Cook and zeke Eliat are out there, 294 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: they need jobs. Why why am I going to overpay 295 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: for a running back that I truly like? But as 296 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: I mentioned before, when you have a quarterback that you're 297 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: not sure about, having that running back is imperative. You 298 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: know the Giants with Daniel Jones having Saquon Barkley McCaffrey 299 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: when he was playing in Carolina. You got to have 300 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: that guy Derrick Henry in Tennessee to be able to 301 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: help that quarterback because it's rare when the quarterback is 302 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: helping the running back. Jonathan Taylor is going to be 303 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: essential for Anthony Richardson. That's a mess. But once again 304 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: we get caught up when with romanticizing the position. Growing up, 305 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: you started with a great running back and you had 306 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: a great middle linebacker. That's how you build a football team. 307 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: And back then, quarterbacks weren't as important. I mean Bart Starr, 308 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: he wasn't a stat machine. Johnny Unitis was a unicorn 309 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: back then. But Troy Aikman was like, all right, what 310 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: do you need me to do? Just handed to Emmett 311 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: and a couple of touchdown passes. Our defense will take 312 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: over from there. I mean, that's how teams were built. 313 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: And you know fran Tarkington was when he retired, he 314 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: owned every record, every record by a quarterback, but he 315 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: didn't have, you know, those championships. But having that guy 316 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: who was fifteen to eighteen passes, that was what you 317 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: normally had. Occasionally you'd have guys who threw, you know, 318 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: a little bit more, but for the most part it 319 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: was you know, like Joe Thaisman. You know, Joe Montana 320 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: never threw for thirty touchdown passes. I don't think of 321 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: a season. Elway maybe did it once, you just didn't 322 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: need it. Now you do. Therefore, somebody pays the price, 323 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: literally running backs. We'll take a break, Peter King will 324 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: join us. How long does he think Aaron think Aaron 325 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Rodgers will stay as a jet We've set the over 326 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: under it two and a half years. We'll talk to 327 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Pete coming up next year on the Dan Patrick Show. 328 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: Keeper's Heart h once again, my accent gets a little thicker. Well, 329 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't really have an accent, but if I had 330 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: an accent, then well, Seton has an accent. 331 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: I got two of them right now, Dan, okay, give 332 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: me the softer one. 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I had 382 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: the under But congratulations on forty years. How have training 383 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: camps changed? Like? The biggest change has been one. 384 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 13: You know, access, you know. Two quick examples. I used 385 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 13: to my first year covering the Cincinnati Bengals in Wilmington, Ohio. 386 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 13: That's where training camp was the pork capital of Ohio, 387 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 13: by the way, and every year in the parade in 388 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 13: downtown Wilmington they crowned a pork queen. But anyway, I 389 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 13: actually did go to that parade. But so at that 390 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 13: training camp, I watched practice. I'd say at least half 391 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 13: the day. 392 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: We had to freeze up there with Peter. See if 393 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: we need to reconnect there, Todd, we will reconnect all right. Ye, 394 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: Peter's frozen in time there. Yes he was, he won times, 395 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: Yes he is, Yes he is forty years I didn't 396 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: even get to my Aaron Rodgers over under yet. Let's 397 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: see Joey and Portland. Hey Joey, what's on your mind 398 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: as we wait for Peter King? 399 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 14: Good morning Dan, Good morning danet's thanks for taking my call. Sure, 400 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 14: and best of the weekend, No worst, first best Aaron 401 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 14: Judge hitting a home run in his return to the 402 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 14: lineup on Saturday, and then second best on Sunday. In 403 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 14: church during the message, my pastor dropped to nobody. 404 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: Our meet Friday whenever I read the menu, who has 405 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: it better than we do? And that stems from a 406 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh interview when he was talking about growing up 407 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: and you know that his dad, you know, former great 408 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: football coach, convinced his brother and his sister that they 409 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: were going to walk like X number of miles to 410 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: go to a town who has it better than we do? 411 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: Nobody is what the Harball kids would say, because he 412 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: would convince them that yeah, you got it, Lucky, we 413 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: get to walk five miles together. We don't need a car. 414 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: Who has it better than we do? Nobody? 415 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, Puck, I think I saw a training camp the 416 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 7: other day. John Harbaugh had the shirt on, Who's got 417 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 7: it better than us? 418 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 6: Nobody? John harb I had that. Oh yeah, in the family. 419 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: Okay, is Peter back with us? 420 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 11: Ton? 421 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: He is back with us on the phone? Okay, all right, Pete, 422 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: you were a mid story about the Bengals training camp 423 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: in Wilmington, Ohio and the pork Queen as well. 424 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, and so I watched practice with Paul Brown almost 425 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 11: I don't know at least half the days I covered 426 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 11: the team. That was a little bit different. Next year, 427 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 11: I go to Latrobe for the first time to see 428 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 11: the Steelers in camp, and the PR guy, the Venerable 429 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 11: Joe Gordon, says, who do you want to talk to? 430 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 11: I said, a couple of guys like to talk to 431 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 11: Mike Webster. And he said, just go over to room 432 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 11: one thirty five of the player's door. Knock on the door, 433 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 11: he'll answer it. And I walked in Mike Webster's room 434 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 11: talk to him for forty five minutes. Those times have 435 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 11: changed a little bit, Dad, Peter. 436 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: Has visited the Jet Steelers Lions bills and of the Jets, 437 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: I put the over under for Aaron Rodgers' career with 438 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: the Jets at two and a half years. Good ones, 439 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: what would you take over? Okay, because I'll tell you 440 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: exactly why. You know, we had a conversation about what 441 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: he did with his contract, okay, because Dan, when quarterbacks 442 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: and when players rewrite their contracts, they always do it 443 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: to eventually get up, you know, and get essentially the 444 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: same amount of money. They just arrange it differently. Aaron 445 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: Rodgers is getting upwards of thirty million dollars less, and 446 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: he agreed. 447 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 11: To do that. And one of the things that he 448 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 11: told me was essentially he said, look, I am, I 449 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 11: want to show these people that I'm going to be 450 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 11: here for a while. 451 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: And what I really. 452 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 11: Want to do is I want to help us, let's say, 453 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 11: at the trading deadline, I really want to help us 454 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 11: get players. And so I think he thinks of this 455 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 11: as more than you know, we've said, Jesus, he only 456 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 11: going to be there one year. No, he's of course 457 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 11: he's going to be there at least two. But I 458 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 11: would say more than that. He was talking about how 459 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 11: Goodie Fields. He talked a lot about Tom Brady's training 460 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 11: and physical regimen. He's given up sugar and almost everything 461 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 11: in terms of process food, and so he's playing Brady 462 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 11: right now, and I think he wants to play not 463 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 11: just to the age of forty, but well into his forties. 464 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: Could you see a scenario, and I know this is 465 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: obviously hypothetical, but all goes well, they win the Super Bowl, 466 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers walks away. 467 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 11: You know who knows? I don't you know, Dan, I 468 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 11: don't really know Aaron Rodgers. I've talked I talked to 469 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 11: him twice a year. Let's say we had a good conversation. 470 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 11: But I don't know him the way I've known some 471 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 11: other players. He's very much a there's a fence up 472 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 11: there and he you know, he likes that. He likes 473 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 11: his privacy, likes his other life. So no, I have 474 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 11: no idea, but I do think that if he wins 475 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 11: it all, he may reconsider the one thing I do know. 476 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 11: He's told me a couple of times he really wants 477 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 11: to see the world. You know, I think he would 478 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 11: like the way Larry Fitzgerald. Did you know he's been 479 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 11: to like ninety eight countries. I think Aaron Rodgers could 480 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 11: would really get into that when he stops playing football. 481 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: Fucking to Peter Kang Football Morning in America. Kylin Nusty's 482 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: back and this is his fortieth year covering NFL training camps. 483 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: And then you had the matchup with the Jets and 484 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Broncos Week five with Aaron Rodgers and Sean Payton. What 485 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 2: was your reaction to Sean Payton's comments to USA today. 486 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 11: I mean, it was way over the top. I thought it. 487 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 11: I couldn't believe it. There's no purpose served to do that, 488 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 11: in my opinion, and I think once the genie was 489 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 11: out of the bottle, Sean, and I'm sure the Broncos, 490 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 11: excellent tr guy Patrick Smythe realized you got to do 491 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 11: something about this, and so he did. He tried to. 492 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 11: But Dan, I was We were driving from from Latrobe 493 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 11: to actually to Port Clinton, Ohio to have dinner on 494 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 11: Friday night, and then onto Detroit after Steelers camp, and 495 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 11: I got a phone call from a coach who just 496 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 11: said he broke the code. He broke the code, and 497 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 11: he said, actor sala urge him to not accept an 498 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 11: apology so easily. But you know what Sala is not 499 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 11: a war Sala is not a warmonger. I think. I think, 500 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 11: assuming that the call will happen or maybe has happened 501 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 11: over the weekend, I think Peyton will totally capitulate and 502 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 11: say how sorry he is, and Sala may challenge him 503 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 11: a bit, but I don't think Sala is going to 504 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 11: make this a war. Mike Tomlin said something funny though. 505 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 11: To me, he goes man that All I know is 506 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 11: that I hope that that game, the Denver Jets game, 507 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 11: is on national TV, maybe at a time where everybody 508 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 11: can watch it, because I want to watch that football 509 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 11: game right now. 510 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: I think it's a four to game. And yeah, so 511 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if Michael will be doing a one 512 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: o'clock game or another one, but a lot of people 513 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: get an opportunity to see that. Jim Irsay, Jim Ersay, 514 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: he loves to think out loud and in this situation, 515 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: like what did he put himself into with Jonathan Taylor? 516 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: Do you think big picture with his comments? 517 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 11: I mean that's another case of and I think, Look, 518 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 11: I think Jim Orsay is a very very For those 519 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 11: who don't know him, he's a very good hearted person. 520 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 11: He loves his team. All he did was answer a 521 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 11: question honestly about, Hey, your problem isn't with us, it's 522 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 11: with your union. If you want to fix the franchise tag, 523 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 11: you're going to fight for it. But why would we 524 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 11: give up stuff we got on the franchise tag and 525 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 11: stuff in this new agreement and voluntarily pay a position 526 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 11: that isn't paid very well twice or three times as 527 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 11: much as the average now just because you think you're 528 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 11: worth it. And look, it was probably time to lower 529 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 11: the temperature and maybe have no comment, no question about it. 530 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 11: He didn't help. But I read his comments, and look, 531 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 11: it was not the right time to say it. But 532 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 11: I read his comments and I said, he's just simply 533 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 11: stating a fact. 534 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I mean he is. But I don't 535 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: know what that fact is going to lead to as 536 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: far as he I don't know how it helps. 537 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 11: It doesn't help, And so I would not have done it. 538 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 11: But I don't think it was altogether that controversial. The 539 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 11: timing of it was just it was just a bad 540 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 11: time to say that when you know that one of 541 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 11: your huge stars is but hurt over the whole thing. 542 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: Why are we so optimistic on the Detroit Lions. 543 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 11: Because I think when a team finishes eight and two, 544 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 11: when a team fixes the defense that was so awful 545 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 11: the first half of the season, and we think they 546 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 11: fixed the defense when they have some very very good 547 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 11: young players, especially on the front seven. Aiden Hutchinson, James Houston. Look, 548 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 11: I feel the same way as you. I think there's 549 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 11: a chance this is twenty eight to three at halftime 550 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 11: of the opening game. However, I think that the NFL 551 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 11: in putting the game there, which was to me the 552 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 11: biggest surprise of the whole schedule process. I think the 553 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 11: NFL and putting the game there, said Dan Campbell, we 554 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 11: trust you Jared Goff, Ben Johnson. America doesn't know this, 555 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 11: Ben Johnson, but I'm telling you the offensive coordinator the Lions, 556 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 11: he'll be a head coach in the NFL. I don't 557 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 11: know when. Sometimes he is really really smart. It's like 558 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 11: he fell off the Sean McVay tree, even though he didn't. 559 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 11: And I think he really bright, and you're going to 560 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 11: hear a lot about him. And I think he's been 561 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 11: a godsend for Jared. He's saved Jarrett Goff's career, or 562 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 11: help save Jared Goff's career. 563 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's situation, they said out a few weeks, any 564 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: concern there cause for concern, of course. 565 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 11: You know, look, if you were positive that Joe Burrow 566 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 11: is going to play the opener against Cleveland, and you 567 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 11: were sure that he was going to be one hundred 568 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 11: percent for that game and no worries. But that is 569 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 11: a weird injury, you know, a strained calf. Depending on 570 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 11: the level of strain. If it's not all better, let's 571 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 11: just say he's going and trying to run away from 572 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 11: Miles Garrett on September tenth, they could be in trouble 573 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 11: because if this injury somehow someway lingers, you know, the 574 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 11: Bengals are going to finish third or fourth in that vision, 575 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 11: and so you know he is. I think, yes, I 576 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 11: do think there's cause to be worried. The only good 577 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 11: thing for them is when you have six weeks before 578 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 11: you play a game that matters, that seemingly is enough 579 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 11: time to get this right. It's just if Joe Burrow 580 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 11: enters the season eighty nine percent or something like that 581 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 11: and he reaggravates it, you know, it's wait till twenty 582 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 11: twenty four for the Bengals. 583 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: How much pressure are the Buffalo Bills under. 584 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 11: I think a lot. But I was there yesterday and 585 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 11: you can't feel it. It's like all Demr Hamlin all 586 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 11: the time. It's it's amazing there where DeMar Hamlin has 587 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 11: gone from being someone who no one really knew at 588 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 11: noon on January second, two days later, he's on the 589 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 11: back page of the New York Post screaming headline America's son. 590 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 11: And now I would say, Dan, I'll ask you this question. 591 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 11: I'd say he's one of the ten most famous people 592 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 11: in the NFL today. And I'd ask you this question, 593 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 11: who's more famous in the United States right now? Lamar Jackson, 594 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 11: former MVP of the NFL, or Damar Hamlin. 595 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh, Damar Hamlin, because that's the story he crossed over. 596 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: So every football fan knows both of them. But your 597 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: wife or your mother, they know Deamar Hamlin. 598 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 11: Right, That's right? And so Dan, you know what was 599 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 11: really interesting yesterday at camp when I watched post practice, 600 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 11: Damar Hamlin had a line of people waiting for him, family, 601 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 11: friends and all that stuff. Not only does he sign 602 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 11: a lot of autographs, but you know, when you go 603 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 11: to Bill's camp and you're the nephew of the strength coach. 604 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 11: You want to meet Damar, And so Damarrow was just there. 605 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 11: I counted thirty five minutes afterwards that he was just meeting, posing, signing, 606 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 11: hugging babies, you know. And I walked away and I 607 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 11: said to somebody there, you know, Josh Allen is one 608 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 11: A and will be for the foreseeable future. He is, 609 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 11: and rightfully so, a beloved figure in that community. But 610 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 11: Damar Hamlin is close right now. And you know, Dan 611 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 11: the weird thing. And I don't expect him to get cut. 612 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 11: I really don't. But right now he's fighting for the 613 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 11: fourth safety job in that camp. You know, Micah Hide, 614 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 11: Jordan Poyer, and they signed Taylor Rapt from the Rams 615 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 11: in free agency and he's pretty solid at number three. 616 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 11: And remember Deamar Hamlin played last year, but only because 617 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 11: of an injury to I'm sorry to Micah Hyde. So 618 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 11: that's what you have to look out for. And again, 619 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 11: I do not think they're gonna cut him. However, I 620 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 11: do think I would just watch that. You know, today 621 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 11: is a huge day for tomorrow. Right now it's happening. 622 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 11: They started their first padded practice of the summer at 623 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 11: nine point thirty this morning. So you need before you 624 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 11: get off the air to get an update of how 625 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 11: DeMar Hamlin did in that practice, because it will be 626 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 11: the first time in exactly thirty weeks that he hits 627 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 11: somebody in a violent way. Now, is he going to 628 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 11: be always thinking about that moment on an absolutely average 629 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 11: tackle of t Higgins? Is he going to be thinking 630 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 11: of that moment when he lowers his shoulder into Dawfin 631 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 11: Knox this morning? 632 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 9: You know? 633 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 11: So it's going to be interesting to watch. 634 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Peter King's upcoming visits to camp the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Falcons, Panthers, 635 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Pete Safe Travels. Is always great to have you back, 636 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 637 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 11: Thanks a million, Dan. 638 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: Anytime that's Peter King. 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Be sure to catch 659 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 660 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 661 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 662 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: us live on the Peacock app. I saw that video 663 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: with Cardi B where she was performing and then a 664 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: woman threw a drink on her, which I don't get this. 665 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 2: These artists who are on stage and people are throwing 666 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 2: things at them, Why are you going to the concert 667 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: if you I guess you don't like the artists, or 668 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 2: you're gonna go to the concert and you're gonna because 669 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm worried this gonna happen to Fritzy on Friday ninth, 670 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not encouraging let's just put it out. I am, 671 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: I'm discouraging people from doing it. But then Cardib got 672 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: a drink thrown on her, and then she took the 673 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: microphone and threw the drink at the woman who threw 674 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 2: the drink on her, and the song kept going, so 675 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: they were like, uh, she was lip syncing. And then 676 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: somebody said, well, she's a rapper and it's not the 677 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: same as Millie Vanilli when they were lip syncing. But 678 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: it was one of those where I see her take 679 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: the microphone throw it at this woman and the music's 680 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: still going, and I went, Okay, lip syncing much, Yeah, point. 681 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 7: I think I saw that last year Post Malone was 682 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 7: performing live and he lost his balance and slipped and 683 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 7: got hurt. He got banged up, and after he fell down, 684 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 7: the song would continue to play. 685 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: On it. 686 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 7: They explained that there's a backing track of their own 687 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 7: vocal underneath them to help harmonize, to help fill it 688 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 7: when they're dancing and moving around the stage. So is 689 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 7: it lip syncing or is it how would you categorize it? 690 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: I'd say lipsy be lip syncing. 691 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 6: Their mics are hot and they are singing with it. 692 00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 6: It appears. 693 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 694 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, you're just there to see people perform, right, 695 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: You're not really there. 696 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: Don't you want to hear a live version of it? 697 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean that's why we go to a concert to 698 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 2: see them do a live version of a song. Right, Yeah? 699 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: I think it depends. 700 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it depends. Okay, what would be the 701 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: discrepancy there? 702 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 3: And I don't know. I feel like if I was 703 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: going to see Cardi B, I wouldn't really care, you 704 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm not there, Like it's not 705 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: like it's you know, Whitney Houston or something. You're like, No, 706 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: I want to hear Whitney Houston sing? 707 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: Is Cardi B? 708 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 3: I just want to It's a performance, right, I'm not 709 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: really all that concerned about it. Like Playboy Cardi he 710 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: doesn't even sing his songs at all. He doesn't even 711 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 3: try to one bit. He gets up there, he jumps 712 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: around usually yells like maush bit and like that's it. 713 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 3: And then but it's awesome. It's like a whole show. 714 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: It's like a whole thing. He doesn't even try to 715 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: fake it. 716 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm not even familiar who he is. See a rapper 717 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: he is? 718 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, But then like if. 719 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: There's only one rapper and that's Eminem, if correct, well 720 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: this weekend there was only one rapper and that was 721 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: Eminem because he was he was at the big fight 722 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: in the boxing match came out. 723 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: Yes, do you think a lot of people, not a 724 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 7: lot A lot of big time singers, artists lip sync 725 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 7: because the live product won't match the production that was 726 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 7: done to get the product together where and like you 727 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 7: see Darius Rutger, that guy could sing anytime of day. 728 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 6: You just wake him up. I'm not blowing smoke O. 729 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 6: The guy has a voice. 730 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 7: And when you go to Seeman concerts, it's kind of 731 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 7: exactly what you hear on the records. 732 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I want to hear you perform, even 733 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: if it's the band playing. I want to I want 734 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: to hear that. I went to see who is the 735 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: Talking Heads. David Byrne, David Byrne on Broadway and he 736 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: did Burning down the House, and he said, you know, 737 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: people don't think that my band here and they're all 738 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: on stage, that they're actually playing the instruments. So he 739 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: did it individually with all of the musicians. There's probably 740 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: fifteen of them and it's on Broadway. And then all 741 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you see how he created this song, 742 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: and you heard the musicians doing it live there in 743 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: front of you, and it was great. It was spectacular 744 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: the way it starts, sounded and even ended. But yeah, 745 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: you know, if I went to a concert and I 746 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: didn't think they were actually performing, it bothered me. Yeah, 747 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: it would. 748 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 7: This was the anniversary, I think a couple of days ago. 749 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 7: The band from the late eighties Milli Vanilli, getting caught 750 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 7: lip singing at Lake Compounds was not in Connecticut. But 751 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 7: what turned out is that they didn't sing on the 752 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 7: song at all, like now, only were they lip syncing 753 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 7: during the set, which could be winked at that when 754 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 7: they did a deep dive, they found out it was 755 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 7: two different singers that recorded the actual song. 756 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 6: That's how they got it. 757 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: But if they would have done it the way the 758 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: Monkeys did it, you know, when they were in the 759 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: late sixties, where they were playing this fictitional band, fictitious 760 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: band and even though they could play some of the instruments, 761 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: yes see. 762 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: That's the difference. They were actually musicians. 763 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they created this TV show and therefore, if 764 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: you did see them or they didn't sound great, you 765 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: were like, well, they're not really musicians, even though they 766 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: Mike Nessmith was considered the true musician there. 767 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: Yes, but what if you went to go, say, like 768 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: see you two and you find out Bono wasn't really singing, 769 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 3: he was singing to a track, or like the Edge 770 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 3: was maybe getting some help with his guitar. 771 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't really care. Well that's little tweaks. But if 772 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: you said that, I mean backing vocals. 773 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: Just singing like you're not really Like Bono's doing the 774 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 3: exact same thing as Cardi B singing to a track. 775 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: If he's Edge is going to get help with his guitars, 776 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: with all of his you know, contraptions over there, I 777 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: don't have any problem with that. I wouldn't want to 778 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: have the lead singer actually singing. Would And I get 779 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: some guys like Robert Plant can't sing led Zeppelin the 780 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: way he once did. Therefore there is no reunion tour 781 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 2: because he said, I don't want to be a jukebox 782 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: and I can't sing those songs that way. By the way, 783 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: I know, we're supposed to do our best and worst. 784 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: Of the weekend. I went to see a movie and 785 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: I went by myself, and I thought, you know what, 786 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 2: it's raining, I'm going to go see this movie. Now. 787 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: Was it Barbie No Oppenheimer, No, Indiana Jones. No, it 788 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 2: is impossible. No, you guys want to guess. 789 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: I don't even know what other movies exactly right now? 790 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: I know, yes, Paulie, Meg two, Meg two, No, because 791 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Meg one yet. Yes, I got it. Yes, 792 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 2: anybody else want to take a stamp? That a movie 793 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 2: that's out now. 794 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 3: The Deepest Breath. 795 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 2: No Transformers, No Haunted Mansion, No Mission. 796 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: No Sympathy for the Devil. 797 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 9: No. 798 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: Got a lot of stars in it, a lot of 799 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: big names. 800 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 3: You manage Mutant Ninja Turtles. 801 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: No Asteroid City. I think it's called. 802 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you could watch that on at hometown Les Anderson. 803 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and your thoughts. 804 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: I walked out. 805 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 6: Oh no, walked out happy after a good night. 806 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I walked out with an hour I watched. I 807 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: watched an hour. 808 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: Do you like Wes Anderson movies? 809 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: I like Royal Tenen Bombs and the Grand Buda Peste Hotel, 810 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 2: But this one walked out. Yeah. I walked down into 811 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 2: the rain. Final hour coming up.