WEBVTT - Beyoncé Broke Out the Strap

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<v Speaker 1>Demos on my hip, stretched marks on my tits, drink

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<v Speaker 1>about what my biz like, stolen Shinna, lucked me up

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. My uncle Johnny made that dress, that man's virgos.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're grooving out there, Alien Superstars. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready to dance, because today we are talking all

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<v Speaker 1>about Renaissance, the new album by this like little indie artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've heard of her. Her name's Bionce.

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<v Speaker 1>Are happy to par we um? Yeah? Absolutely, Rose, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for indulging me in a full episode devoted to

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<v Speaker 1>this album. I mean you probably wanted to do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I knew we were going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it and that it was going to be way too

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<v Speaker 1>long for just the news segment. I did not think

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to spend literally an hour going track

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<v Speaker 1>by track through the album, but like, that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>good this album is. It warranted the discussion. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to get into it with our thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about the Beyonce album, and not just the songs themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>but truly the way they were made, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>an album that I really appreciate Beyonce, Like, let us

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<v Speaker 1>into see what was going on behind the curtains with

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Um, as much as she is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, Um, but we're going to dig into it

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<v Speaker 1>because this is like a Virgin the show where we

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<v Speaker 1>give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm Rose, Damn you

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm fran Toronto Baby, come oh to night Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I I right before this recording, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was in l a earlier and Taylor Swift she just

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<v Speaker 1>took me over on her jet to make this record

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<v Speaker 1>in time. It's so nice of her. Oh that's amazing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually coming back to l A later to pick

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<v Speaker 1>me up so that we can go to Glendale. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're flying. We're flying for actually not Glendale. We're flying

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<v Speaker 1>from my apartment to the Grove. Yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say. It's a growth date for sure. She's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take you to the Charlotte Tillbury store. Get

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<v Speaker 1>you some lip cheat. Wait when we go to Disney

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<v Speaker 1>later this month, because it is officially August by Taylor Swift, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we should get her to fly us to Anaheim. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be so nice. That'd be so nice of her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an ally, really, I mean, what else does she

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<v Speaker 1>spend her days doing sites, taking her friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>around on her private jet and you know, chipping away

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<v Speaker 1>at our ozon for the Okay, if the Virgins aren't

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<v Speaker 1>aware of this, Um, I was going to say, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are cold hard facts that we're saying, cold

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<v Speaker 1>hard facts. Um. Taylor Swift has been outed from a

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<v Speaker 1>slightly unverified listical about the celebrities that have the most

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<v Speaker 1>carbon emissions based on their private jet usage. And Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to say, I want to trace all

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<v Speaker 1>this back to Kylie. We started talking about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Kylie Jenner was taking these like ridiculous flights in

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<v Speaker 1>her private jet, Like she was flying the distance of

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<v Speaker 1>what would be like a twenty minute car ride in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. And so because of this, this whole like

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<v Speaker 1>meme started and it eventually got turned into a listical.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out, the actual celebrity who is contributing the most

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<v Speaker 1>to climate change because of you know, private jet usage

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<v Speaker 1>is none other than than Taylor Allison Swift, Queen Ted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so funny that like this is the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that kind of got her a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a swift e. We this is a

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<v Speaker 1>Swifty podcast because I'm here, I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say the one thing, I would maybe think

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<v Speaker 1>about the years of silence she had around the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration before finally saying that the President Trump was bad,

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<v Speaker 1>which took her a very very long time to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm what I'm saying though, is that like she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a very hard celebrity to come for publicly

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<v Speaker 1>because her fan base is so rapid and will truly

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<v Speaker 1>destroy people. And I have said on this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>others that, and I know you've you've been attacked by them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was just going to say, also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think because of the I think her team is really

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<v Speaker 1>good at staying quiet. Yes, Tree pain never sleeps, Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, you know, But I think people usually

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<v Speaker 1>don't come for her in a large scale because they

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<v Speaker 1>know that the Taylor Swift machine, which is both her

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<v Speaker 1>team and her fans, will destroy you. And especially like

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<v Speaker 1>over the last year, she's very much been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in control of her narrative with you know, Taylor's version

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<v Speaker 1>and rereleasing all of her music, and everyone's very much

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<v Speaker 1>on her side, and so it was really any to

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<v Speaker 1>see all these memes coming out and like this is

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<v Speaker 1>really not something that her stands can defend her. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so damning and so universally frowned down upon by

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<v Speaker 1>most people in the world. I think the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not about her being mad that some joke

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<v Speaker 1>was said in a Netflix show or like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about drama petty ship. She addresses things only

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<v Speaker 1>when it benefits her. Yeah, only when it benefits her,

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<v Speaker 1>or only when she's in some like really petty shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that is like so interpersonal and esoteric and like

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<v Speaker 1>not important. It's important is something like the climate crisis

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<v Speaker 1>or a Trump presidency um or row view wade um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like it's honestly reaching a point rose

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<v Speaker 1>where it feels like it might need to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if that article is true and I were a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're someone is huge as Taylor Swift, you

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<v Speaker 1>would be releasing a press statement that's like we are

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<v Speaker 1>radically changing our relationship to private jets and like blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, you know what I mean, Like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a statement made by someone from her team, No way

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<v Speaker 1>was hold on it. I'm pulling it up now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Spokesperson says that, um, the jet is loaned out regularly

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<v Speaker 1>to other individuals. To attribute most of all of these

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<v Speaker 1>trips to her is blatantly incorrect. So oh, so that

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<v Speaker 1>is her addressing it that that's it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>all we're going to get. Like it's not um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good rebuttal saying it's not me taking all

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<v Speaker 1>those trips. It's just my jet. It's just my personal jet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like it's just so dumb, you know, swift ease.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of you. I love Taylor, but like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to accept it. When we have to eat the rich,

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<v Speaker 1>she is one of the ones who needs to be eaten.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure she's gonna taste great. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna taste bad. She's gonna taste like uncooked chicken, no, ma'am. Anyways, anyways, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of no nope, let's talk about Jordan's Peel's nope,

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<v Speaker 1>which you fly? Um? Okay? At it all. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gave like a little bit of my

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts last week, but now we can talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>and we can talk spoilers. Okay. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>that this was kind of a a nothing movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really beautiful, It was really engaging. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really masterful, and the performances were obviously great. Kiki

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<v Speaker 1>is everything, and there's so many components of like Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Peel's vision as a director and a writer that are

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<v Speaker 1>so inspired to watch. But like just a whirl of

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<v Speaker 1>missed opportunities and ultimately like pretty. I wouldn't go as

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<v Speaker 1>far to say that it was boring. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the are the missed opportunity? But it was very static. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, let's talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the Okay, so for the versions that don't know, the

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<v Speaker 1>gist of this movie is Kekeep Palmer and our brother

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Kelia are basically horse trainers that lend their horses

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, film sets and commercials and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been in this business for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the weird things keep happening around their ranch. That

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<v Speaker 1>they very quickly discover is an alien spaceship unit monster

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<v Speaker 1>monster thing that is basically you know, um camping out

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<v Speaker 1>behind a cloud outside their ranch. And also the serving

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<v Speaker 1>members of their town. Sure, and also and also I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it should be said their father was killed mysteriously

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<v Speaker 1>six months prior. At the same time, a new attraction

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<v Speaker 1>has opened near them, which is owned by a former

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<v Speaker 1>child star who has you know, this backstory and has

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<v Speaker 1>past about an animal attack. On the set of the sitcom,

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<v Speaker 1>you worked on a backstory that had no loop around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually that's actually not true. But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear more still about what you think about the opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>top line, the missed opportunities are one. I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>Kiki and Daniel were separately amazing, but I do not

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're dynamic. Made the movie more interesting, like

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship was very real to me, but like Daniel's

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<v Speaker 1>portrayal of the character is so unfazed and so stoic

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<v Speaker 1>around most things occurring around him, which made his character

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<v Speaker 1>more real TVH. But it also made the emotional response

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<v Speaker 1>for me to be very like static, Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel as excited as when Kiki was on screen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt that the relationship was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a of a I don't know, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little one note um. But I also felt like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about the fact that the alien

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<v Speaker 1>was basically an Iris van Herbin down like so not

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<v Speaker 1>scary and so like I mean, it was beautiful, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was so not It was not scary, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not thrilling, and there was a lot of tension. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there was a lot of tension, but I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like just it was a long I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how long the movie was. It was it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of movie to go through with

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton of action. Nope, could have been a

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<v Speaker 1>short film, like it could have been an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Time. I don't know about a short film, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been an hour and a half and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it could have been at it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been I think an episode of the Light. It could

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<v Speaker 1>have been an hour and a half, and it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been one hour and and gotten its point across

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<v Speaker 1>and been maybe more effective. And I feel like when

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<v Speaker 1>all the action did happen, that was like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was most engaged, but it was ultimately anti climactic, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like there had there should have been more

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<v Speaker 1>thrills and chills leading up to that big moment of

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<v Speaker 1>action that I'm talking about. What about you? What would

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that it was slow? As I said last week,

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a very thoughtful movie. And do you

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<v Speaker 1>see what I mean now about I think like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about sci fi, it's more like Arrival than

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<v Speaker 1>it is like Independence Day. I mean, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a horror. This is a psychological thriller, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I also I think I also think so this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what where I want to push back about

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<v Speaker 1>like the movie not having like some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie not making sense, or like not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually think I was very confused on the

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<v Speaker 1>first watch of this movie about like what was the

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<v Speaker 1>point of the scene with the orangutan, and like why

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<v Speaker 1>do we keep going back to that? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the more was like the more of at with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I really think that even more than like an

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<v Speaker 1>alien movie or an action movie, this is a monster

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<v Speaker 1>movie because it's very much about you know, like they

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<v Speaker 1>think this thing is a UFO and it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually an alien or like a monster, or when

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<v Speaker 1>you really break it down to its core, it's an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>They spend a lot of the time once they're like

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<v Speaker 1>once they figured out that it eats people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it like a wild animal, Which is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>it it's really important to note that they are horse trainers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think you get the opening bit

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<v Speaker 1>with the orangutan that like was meant to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the sitcom and like everyone thought everything was fine

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<v Speaker 1>and hunky dory, and then the animals snapped and killed people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of what this movie is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about is like, obviously there's a lot to be

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<v Speaker 1>said about like surveillance culture and celebrity. These people are

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<v Speaker 1>really obsessed with getting the shot and how that will

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<v Speaker 1>change their lives. Um, you know, we have a former

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<v Speaker 1>child star who can't let go of that fame and

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<v Speaker 1>like essentially rents his trauma out to people. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have this idea of these animals, you know, the orangutan,

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<v Speaker 1>the horses, the alien that can't be tame, and that

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<v Speaker 1>humans are continually learning this lesson by trying to tame them,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in the context of creating entertainment. So to that

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<v Speaker 1>is to me why it really is like a monster movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think there's just something about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like these are beasts, these are wild beasts, and even

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<v Speaker 1>like all the stuff where they're like you can't look

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<v Speaker 1>directly in the eyes, and I think like that is

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<v Speaker 1>why it makes so much sense that you have this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like cowboy motif going on through the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and why there's so much iconography taken from like westerns,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's very much not the movie that it

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<v Speaker 1>sells itself as, which I think is like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of where the disconnect comes from. But having sat for

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<v Speaker 1>it with over a week now, I really like it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than I did when I initially saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I'm not dying to see it again anytime soon,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I would watch it again at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in the future, and like, having having kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figured out I think at least some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that it's trying to say, or like at least nod towards,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be interesting to watch the movie

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<v Speaker 1>again through that lens. Yeah, I you know now that

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<v Speaker 1>you're painting this through line. For me, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>see that a lot more like the kind of domestication

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<v Speaker 1>of the natural world and what it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with capitalism and exploitation. Like I feel like that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense as a reading for the film,

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think like both can be true that

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<v Speaker 1>people have a tendency to over interpret Jordan Peel's movies,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've seen some really reaching, reaching interpretations of Us,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is a really cryptic film, a film

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, begs, begs, begs you to make meaning

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<v Speaker 1>out of it um And at the same time, like

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Peel is really just a brilliant kind of stoner

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these things that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that he puts in his films could really

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<v Speaker 1>very well just be random or figments of his imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I do think Jordan Peele is excellent at

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<v Speaker 1>making films that have these two layers to them, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one is like just a really fun, sometimes scarying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thriller film, and then the other level is

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<v Speaker 1>making movies that have like something very meaningful to say

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<v Speaker 1>about our world. And the kind of spectrum that we

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<v Speaker 1>like grade his films on, or at least like the

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum of which I enjoy them, is whether they lean

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<v Speaker 1>too far in one thing or too far on the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing, or if they're able to perfectly marry them

0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like I think Get Out perfectly marries those things. This

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe leans a little too hard on trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like say something and forgets sometimes to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really engage thriller. Yeah, and you know, I enjoyed myself

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<v Speaker 1>a ton and I, you know, think it's amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>we have a filmmaker, a new filmmaker, making original films

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<v Speaker 1>that are doing good at the box office and become

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<v Speaker 1>required viewing like that is something that we can't really

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<v Speaker 1>say about a lot of directors making work right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, a lot of our tours that you know

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<v Speaker 1>are in that belong you know, in his league. And

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<v Speaker 1>I I think my thing is, like I think, honestly

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about these the three films is really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me because get Out obviously is like the most crystal clear,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like there's no I mean, there are very

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<v Speaker 1>very different routes to interpret the film, but there's one

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<v Speaker 1>crystal clear message that I think came at the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time culturally where it was not too hamfisted. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is ham fisted, but too too excellent to excellent execution,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And but it also was horrific in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. And I thought us, at least to

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<v Speaker 1>me and my threshold was almost scarier, definitely more horrific

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways, even if less of an engaging movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Nope, is like something that's way more tame.

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<v Speaker 1>And it may be intentionally tame, but I think because

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<v Speaker 1>there were some tames exactly. And I think that because

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<v Speaker 1>like the the scary, there wasn't really any scary. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the scariest moment was when he was in the barn

0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and those little kids were wearing those alien masks. Yeah,

0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that was that was the only time I jumped. That

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<v Speaker 1>was that was the scariest moment to me. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a total fake out and um, I

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about the himbo. Oh my god, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to stock him. Oh but have you watched any of

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<v Speaker 1>the interviews with him. He's like really into God, constantly

0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>thanking God and Jesus. Oh that's kind of honestly, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Can we talk about his scene partner, Barbie

0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Ferriarra having her little cameo. Why does she only have

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two lines? She's st am I like,

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<v Speaker 1>in such an a silo that she's an actress. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not that famous. I think she's she's not that. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just you're just warped by euphoria. Like that's actually no,

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<v Speaker 1>but like that actually for someone at her level having

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<v Speaker 1>two lines in a Jordan Peel movie is a great

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<v Speaker 1>gig for her. It's true, it's true. It's true that

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<v Speaker 1>that's none of the other Euphoria girls had two lines

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<v Speaker 1>in a Jordan Peel movie. But she deserved. She's she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing just what I mean, she's doing just She's doing

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<v Speaker 1>just fie she gets to say she was a Nope.

0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Another I did see another movie this week that I

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<v Speaker 1>think you would enjoy. I'm already nervous. It's called Mrs

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<v Speaker 1>Harris Goes to Paris. The girls are tweeting about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the girls, I mean just you and and

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<v Speaker 1>no one else. Yeah, it's very like it's when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I said I saw it, my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see that. It's very that kind of movie. Vum.

0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.359
<v Speaker 1>It's such a feel good movie. You would love it.

0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a movie that it was adapted from a book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about this um cleaner in postwar London who decides

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<v Speaker 1>that she just really wants a do your gown because

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<v Speaker 1>she has a very like sad little life, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she like comes into some money and goes to Paris

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<v Speaker 1>and goes to do your And it's like, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking do your gown and of course everyone's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're poor, like you don't deserve what And Isabella who

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>pairs like in it, and she's like, fuck you Mrs Harris.

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.399
<v Speaker 1>But you know it's like everyone's like, but we have

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<v Speaker 1>to get Mrs Harris her gown, um, and like spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>like she gets the gown and then she also gets

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<v Speaker 1>another gown. I mean, I'm probably not going to see it,

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<v Speaker 1>but your description is wonderful. It's so charming. The fashion

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful. Literally none of it was shot in Paris,

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and you to tell it's giving a little sound stages,

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's giving a little best exotic Mary gold will know.

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 1>When I told Ryan that I loved it, he was like, yeah,

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 1>it's very Mrs Pettigrew Lives Through a Day which I

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<v Speaker 1>had which I had never seen and watched last night

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and so good we should be. Alternate titles include Mrs

0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Harris Slays for Mrs Harris Lives for the Sleigh, Mrs

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Harris Serves Hunt for a Day. Um. If you've never

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>seen it, It's a two thousand eight film starring Franstance

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>McDorman and Amy Adams and a young Lee Pace and

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. It's like an hour and a half. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so good boy Island, My god, what we what do

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 1>we even? Okay, we're going to get into spoilers this time.

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.679
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't let me talk spoilers last week, but like

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we just need to get into it. Like you're either

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:55.560
<v Speaker 1>watching Island or you're stupid. Um okay. I thought for

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a moment, with the cliffhanger that came before the first

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the two episodes that came up this week, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought it was going to be a bait and

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>switch and that Peter was going to be a nice guy,

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but like, no, obviously he's And the way Mia crumbled

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 1>when she found out all her matches were f boys,

0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.360
<v Speaker 1>she is incredible. She's such a great reality reality TV.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's so interesting that with the format

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, that they couldn't just be like, well, Mia,

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 1>why don't you take one of the other guys, like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other nice guys, like maybe one of

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 1>them is like horny for you. But Nope, that's not

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>allowed within the confines of how this show works. Honestly,

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>even if they were allowed to like go for a

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>nice guy, I'm not really sure they would these girls.

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.639
<v Speaker 1>That many girls left in this pool, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe Mercedes is still there. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>for good TV, but like the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 1>shipping his brains out during the elimination so funny. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't believe that he still stayed regardless

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>such he's so obviously a horrible person. And I thought

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it was very interesting that they that they had one

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of the guys tell Tamaris about him being evil, but

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:19.439
<v Speaker 1>she never told Louise. But all I wonder if she

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>did and we just didn't see it, because when when

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Louise saved Mercedes, she apologized to Tamaris. So I wonder

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>if did in fact warn her and we just didn't

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.400
<v Speaker 1>see it. She might have, it seems I mean, I'm

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.440
<v Speaker 1>sure they talk. It feels like it was something that

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Tamaris wanted to like handle on her own, which I

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of love about her, Like she really likes she's

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>She's really like, let me get these guys together, you

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like I'm still Team Danny. It's

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>so disgusting. It's just it's disgusting, and yet and yet

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. Yeah, I just don't get it. It's like

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>he only shops at Ari Pistal, all those fucking World shirts.

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't he's gross. I actually think they're all gross.

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Actually I thought Sante it was kind of hot.

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I came around to him a little. By the end,

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Sante was Cuba born. I'm very excited for the for

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the man splain that that's going to happen. I can't

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it's almost over. I wish there were sixty episodes.

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I wish the show had three seasons a year, like

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor, Like why are we not getting at seven?

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to, like I want to

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>be able to like watch live streams of the house

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like Big Brother. Yeah, I honestly I wanted to be

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>like like Love Island, where it's like forty episodes long

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and like I can barely get up. I'm

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>like just laying in my bed holding in my piss

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>as I like finished like episode nine of this show

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that I've sat in for like you know, sat watching

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>for hours. I piss And sometimes because I don't want

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to get up because I'm watching, I don't want to,

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes the DV is d being I want to

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like we'll we'll do a track

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>by track breakdown. But okay, where were you when you

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to the album for the first time, and what

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>were your kind of first thoughts? I um decided to

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>not wait until midnight. I was no, no, no, no,

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I would never I would never do that to my mother.

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I listened to a leak of Break my Soul only

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a few only like a few hours before it dropped. Okay, um,

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And for this one, I did not listen to the league.

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a good girl, and I decided to wake

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning and get stoned, which I have

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe I waited. I've only waked and baked maybe two

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>or three times in my entire life, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>the second or third time. And I decided to just

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>lay in my bad and listened to it with my

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>headphones on because I knew I wanted to hear the

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.959
<v Speaker 1>details of what I was listening to. And obviously we're

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna get into it. But like girl, I was crying

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the first song. And I don't

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>think it was even like one shed a single tear.

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I should say I shouldn't see crying. I should say

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I shed a tear and and it was an emotional

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>overload of feeling like we had waited so long for

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 1>an album that starts like this. It reminded me a

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of when I listened to Adele's most recent album

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and the overture that is, you know, that first song

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and how she sets the tone for something that is

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be completely different and unexpected, and um, I

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I like, you know, top line, feel like

0:25:55.240 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I never in my life would have seen Beyonce a

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>music that was like this faggotty like this like ballroom

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>house like disco kind of fag and music. Well, but

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, is like, And on this podcast we've

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about this, the distinction between being gay and being

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>a fagot. And Beyonce has made a lot of gay music, okay,

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>like single Ladies is pretty gay like and there are

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things in her discography that are pretty

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>gay and pretty on the nose when it comes to

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like what community they're catering to. But like when I

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>felt how fag goody this was, and how you know,

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's even like post fagot I actually think

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>this is I think this is Dike Beyonce music yeah,

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of giving that it was transcendent. Broke

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>out the strap for this one. Yes, she really did.

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And like I'm I keep getting tempted to go into

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like track analyzes, but like, what were your top line?

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Impressure so here. I also did not listen to the leak.

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I was a good girl, um and most not because

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I like have any moral, you know, qualms with it,

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but I just I wanted to listen to this album

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>in a way that was easy, and it was the

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>easiest to you know, at nine pm on Thursday night, say,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Alexa play Well, I'm not gonna say

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it because she's gonna fucking start um. Oh my god,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>she does. Um. So I listened to it. I did

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>not listen to it kind of as actively as you did.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Like there were some songs I did, but I let

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>myself kind of experience it and like go in and out,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't really look at my phone, but I

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>was like dancing around my apartment. I did not have

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>any kind of emotional reaction to it. I think, actually,

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>this is making me think in somewhat of a deeper way.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I that music does that to me,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Like I certainly love music, and there are songs that

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>are very important to me, but I'm much more likely

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to cry like a movie or TV show or a

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>book that I am to a song. But I really

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>like this album. I think it's very fun. I like

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 1>that it is pretty much bobs and bangers only, and

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that she said, and I think that makes sense. I

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think she could have done that if she hadn't

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>announced that this was part of a three act project,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>because I would imagine that one of the other albums

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 1>is going to be something a little more emotional and

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>little more bality. I like that she was like for

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this album, for Renaissance, this is the vibe it is.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>We're having fun, it's the summer. We got our tits out,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>We're sucking dick, we are popping off. And when you

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>say sucking dick, like with no discretion, like actually sucking

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>sucking dick and cock, we're eating ass, We're eating pussy,

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>we are licking nipples and titties. Um we are. This

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>is a slutty This is a slutty horny album. Beyonce

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is is horny just so interesting because I do think

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>she's only ever had sex with Jay z Well we'll

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about um just you know this this album in

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in comparison to her the rest of her body of work,

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>but like that is definitely a body reservation and her

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>body Yadi Audia of work. We knew it was going

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a house album, at least through the Whisper network.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we all knew that it was going to

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>be a three part project. And it should also be

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>said that we were recording this on Monday of the week,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like they're going to be visuals

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that will be dropped between now and maybe when this

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is I don't know. I still I still am a

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>little shook that we got no visuals. But I also

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>think like, just like Beyonce decided I'm not doing a

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>surprise drop, she also decided I'm not doing the kind

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of visual output I've been doing for all my other albums, Like, yes,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I would love to get a video. When when I

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>said to Ryan, like, I really need a music video,

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I think she's just like really wants

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to make it about the music. She's edging. No, she's

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>edging us. We're getting visuals. There's so many stills and

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>so many photos setups that are floating around of her

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like and that amazing like gold kind of layered LeMay

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>piece that was like I think an homage to Pepper

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Labisia question Mark, Like her references are really good. Um

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and I want to almost like don't want to give

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>give this too much credence. But but someone said, Beyonce

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>watch pose and made this album and like as much

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.479
<v Speaker 1>of it, as much as ann iral as that is,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's untrue. I think it's a it's

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a flattening. I mean, Beyonce is that basic. Let's be clear,

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Like at the end of the day, if you've ever

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>watched an interview with her, like she's a delight a

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>delightfully like the middle of the road girl who is

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>also the greatest living performer of our generation. I would claim, Um,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that she is always on trend and

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and that is you know, I think her greatest strength

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and times a weakness, because it does render her sometimes

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>a little a little corny or a little like, you know,

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>try hard, and but I think that that's what makes

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I would say that this album is a little late

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, like maybe a little bit

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit it doesn't it's but it's fine because

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>she does the thing so well that it doesn't know

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>well and and it's also just such a beyond say album,

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I would say, you know, before we like as

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>we're getting into the track by track, like, I came

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>away from the album being like, damn, I wish that

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>some of these songs went harder. I wish that the

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>entire album was disco house. Um. We get these little

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>breaks that you know, don't have the don't have as

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 1>that that like kind of thumpy club basse um that

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I kind of wished was in every song. But then

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.719
<v Speaker 1>after finishing it for the first time, I was like,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, if it really was that cohesive, it wouldn't

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>be a Beyonce. I wouldn't. And I also loved it

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that so many of the songs start as one thing

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and end of another. So it's so cool. Okay, let's

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>let's start our our dissection. So let's get into so

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>number one I'm that Girl. I mean, which is she

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>is that girl? I'm that girl? As I said, I

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>was weeping when like this song kind of reached its

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>middle point because lyrically gorgeous, vibe wise, totally resonant, and

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>like I think a perfect like overture esque like anthem

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to what we are preparing ourselves to be really puts

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you in the right And Beyonce is an album artist,

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and the song is saying in case you, in case

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't clear, this is an album. It's very much

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like your first drink of the night, You're like getting

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>into it. It reminded me of when I first listened

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to a last album, like laying in the bathtub and

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like turning it on and having a very intentional listen

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>with it. And and that first Adele song takes a

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>sharp turn that sonically is so different from Adele's usual sound,

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and in my head, I was like, oh my god,

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this album is going to be so different. And I

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>think with this one, I I just got this. I

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>got that same kind of emotional anticipation. I was like,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>this album is gonna be so fucking different, and you know,

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>we already knew that. But like girl, when it went

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to Cozy, like we knew it. I really like Cozy.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking on my first listen that the lyrics

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>were a little cheesy, and I do think that's something

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that happens a couple of times on this album. Is

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like despite the fact that there's like twelve people credited

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>as writers on every song. Sometimes the lyrics are a

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>little cheesy, and that's I think that's just a Beyonce thing. Well,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce is also credited as a writer, I believe on

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>every song she's ever performed, or if not a or

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a producer, but she is credited on every single song.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And that is completely intentional. And like, I really it's

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a big mystery as to how much writing quote unquote

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>she actually does, but she has before an interview, has

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about songwriting and writing and so I always wonder

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>what's her and what's like her other people, and what's

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>her writing process works someone else's release your wiggle and

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce goes. I think that's a perfect encapsulation of Beyonce's

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>writing contributions on her music. You know, it's her being

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, But the thing is, you know about like

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce's kind of corny nous or rather that's my term.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce is like corny nous on some of these songs.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't experience that until Church Girl, which we'll

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.240
<v Speaker 1>get into, but like I actually lyrically really loved Cozy

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and the kind of ethos of the song, which is

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>about being comfortable in your own skin, expressing yourself, and like,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the through line in the album that's really

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>crystal clear by this song is is about sex and

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>connection but also about you know, queerness and about being yourself.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And like to use a t S. Madison, you know

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>clip in this which was I thought used so like

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was She's I mean, I loved her

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>tweet that was like my voice is iconic, and I

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, the voice is it is iconic. And I

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>think for Beyonce to recognize that and to make a

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>song about being comfortable and you're, you know, with yourself

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and still talking about God somehow because it's to talk

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>about God rolls over so perfectly into Alien Superstar because

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, we're done being comfortable with being weirdos.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to be freaks and we're gonna love

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>exactly hot. Something that I love about Alien Superstar and

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>why it's one of the one of my favorite trucks

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on the album is that it becomes towards the end

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>like much more like impressionistic and like the words are

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>are like it's more of like this wall of sound

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.439
<v Speaker 1>and Beyonce. It's just kind of like saying weird ship

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and like she's being a fucking alien, and like, I mean,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think this is one of the tracks on

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the album that is like most obviously taking inspiration from

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>ballroom culture and from queer culture. Alien Superstar is I knew,

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like just seeing the title when the track list was released,

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that this was going to be one of the ones

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to watch, and it is definitely one of my favorites

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on the album. And it's like when I was doing

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>my first listen, it's the first time that I really

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>got up and started dancing. Yeah, I mean I I

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was dancing by cozy or at least like in my

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of groove. I felt like Alien Superstar. The b

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>is so good. I mean, we just have to talk

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>about the Honey songs in general. Honey to Gen really

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>eight and you can hear her influence on this music

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and it I've never looked at the song credits while

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to music the way that I have

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>while listening to this album because same, and that I

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>think is really cool. I liked that you can hear

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the influence of the people that Beyonce brought in to

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>work with her, I mean, which is kind of interesting

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>when we'll talk about the calisse of it all later.

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you know Honey Dejon, if you know her music,

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>if you if you've ever listened to her DJ, you

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>can't listen to this song and not know that this

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>is a Honey track. Yeah, exactly, I honestly so. I

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>saw on Instagram that Honey maybe did an edit of

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Pure Honey um, which is in my opinion, the queerest

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>song on the album. But like she her, she wasn't

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>credited for Pure Honey, but like I was like, oh

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, I wonder if she, you know, started to

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>do something for it. And there's like a Honey de

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Gen version of Pure Honey out there somewhere that I

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>can listen to because girl Honey's version. Yeah, but like

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, to go back to the Honey de Gen

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>of it all, Like I, you know, these were my

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite songs on the album, and I think that kind

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>of the venus was something that just I haven't heard

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>this from Beyonce before the succession of Cozy and Alien

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Superstar in and of themselves were so far set apart

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>from the rest of her body of work. Like I

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's anything else in her discography that does

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>what those songs do. But like I mean, I loved

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the Kim Cooper like unique, like kind of moment on it.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I love um the ballroom references, even though I

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>mean that it's a little corny the category um it's

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>but as she said, corny, Beyonce is corny, and that's

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>when she thrives. And and then you go to Cuffet,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>which like in a lot of ways is a very

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of traditional Beyonce song. Like as we said, like

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it is, it is definitely in the legacy of a

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>song like blow Um. It's not one of my favorites

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>on the album, but like I like it. It's a

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>good transition between two of the weirder songs on the

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>album with Cozy and Alien Superstar. I immediately taken, but

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>also like a little nervous because I was, like, what

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is Beyonce taking on? She is doing a genre that

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>is completely outside of I wasn't going to say outside

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>her wheelhouse, because she can do any genres she wants

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and is qualified to do so. But like, like she

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 1>could release a fucking SKA album and we would gobble

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that up. You know what I mean, But like Cufft

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is when I was like, oh, this is a beat,

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like this is Beyonce, Like this is funk, this is

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Soul's a very comfortable place for her to be. And

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's like just very funny that

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and a great dichotomy that Beyonce can make what I

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>what we were calling like Faggett Fagett music and still

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>have the album ultimately be about Um, her relationship that

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>she has been in a relationship, a relationship she's been

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>in since she was like sixteen or whatever, and like

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Kuffett is one of those songs that's like a love letter.

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And then we go into Energy, which you know, I

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Energy is one of my favors on the album, and

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's, like I really liked, after what we

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>had gotten so far, the acknowledgement that she's still um

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>interested in the music that she was making on the

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Gift and like everything she did with Black is King,

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I think Energy is the song to me that

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds the most like those albums with the very like

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>afrobeat of it, and it's so like dissonant in a

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>way and like and like kind of not hard to

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>listen to, but like a little challenging. It's It's one

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of the songs in the album that made me like

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>listen actively, um and like it's something that I think

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people would not think of as like

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>club music, but like I have heard music like this

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and like very dark clubs and very dark moments, and like,

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I think this song is so sexy. Yeah, and not

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>to mention the transitions in these first six songs, especially

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to energy and especially for energy to Break my Soul,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think break my Soul makes I

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 1>like break my Soul. I I already love to Break

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>my Soul, but in the in context, knowing its place

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>in the album, it just made it made me like

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so much more because I think the transition. I

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>think this this three song cycle of energy and to

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Break My Soul into Church Girl is perfect. Absolutely. I

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>totally totally agree. And I feel like, um, Her, you know,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to go back to your point about Black is King

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and that album that I also loved, like, I feel

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know what she was doing what she I

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like she gets a lot of flak um for

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>homogenizing art, um for taking art from other artists and

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>putting it all under her name, and um, you know,

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously there are a lot of nuances to that that

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>can be had on another podcast, but I just have

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to remind people all that that's what almost every music

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>artist does. And to the point that you were making earlier,

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>like something that's really beautiful about this project specifically, and

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really think about it until you said it,

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is that like, as a fandom, we are consuming credit lines,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and there were like over a thousand credits on this album,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>like and and for Beyonce to kind of put them

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>all in context and to tweet them out and to

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>say like, like, these are the people that as I'm

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the combined effort of all of these people I take

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>inspiration from, and I am in a legacy of black

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>art and queer art. Um, well, it's like she's it's

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:42.399
<v Speaker 1>like she's citing. She's citing her her research. You know,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like here, here's it's it's like post receipts. It's

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's like, here's her this, she wrote her thesis,

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and here's everything she's referencing. Yes, baby exactly, and like

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of me, I think, I mean, Gaga did this

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.439
<v Speaker 1>in a slightly different way, but when Chromatica came out,

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>like she did that playlist that was like welcome to Chromatica.

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>That was like, here's all of the music that this

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>album is is in a legacy of and it's in

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation with and um I love that playlist disappeared so

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it still exists. I think Beyonce a step further and

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I'm going to hire all the people

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>who made that music and are currently making that music

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and make songs with them because Beyonce just is able

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to do all this on a scale that no other

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>artists can. When she gets accused of stealing or appropriating

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 1>music or whatever, I just think I mean, I think

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it comes from obviously because she's a black woman, but

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>also becau has she way back in her like four

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>album era, like gotten to a few different issues where

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like she was making music videos or giving performances that

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 1>were very clear rips from other artists, um, without crediting.

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And I think that too for her to come to

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>write here and to be like this is where all

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the credit these, this is where credit is due. Um.

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, that is like what every artist should and

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce at the end of the day, on top of

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>being the greatest performer of a generation is also a curator,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, and her team our curators, and they're good

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>curators in my opinion. I mean, since we're talking about

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>this conversation and like we we are talking about what

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is this like tree out of songs which

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>includes energy, Like I do think it's a good time

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to bring up the Calice of it all. So I

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>said she credited everyone except yeah, if you don't know,

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like you you met. You might have

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>seen headlines about this like drama between Beyonce and Calice,

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's our really more complicated that and the drama

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is really not um, it's not drama um. And it's

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>not even between Beyonce and Kalie directly. So energy samples milkshake.

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would never have clocked it, by the way,

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>would you? Yeah? I mean I definitely. I don't think

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>like I clocked. I think I knew it was coming

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>because like the Kalie stuff broke that day, so like

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I was prepared for it. And you know, Kalise has

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>spoken out about it, and the thing is like she's

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>what what the issue is is not that Beyonce used

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 1>her music and didn't credit her. The issue is that Kalise,

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and this has been something that Calie has talked about

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Kalise was fucked out of the

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>publishing rights for Milkshake by Farrell. This is something that

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>she's talked about at length, that other artists have talked

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>about with Farrell. And so when this when Milkshake is

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>used in Beyonce's album, Calise gets nothing from that, and

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>so I think her problem was twofold. Her problem was

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that she never got any sort of like acknowledgement from

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce that she was that her record was being used

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>on this album. And then she also again is being

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>fucked over by this man from money from this iconic

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 1>song that she made. And Calice's impact on music cannot

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>be overstated. Calice Plice is iconic, and it fucking sucks

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>that she got a shitty deal at the start of

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>her career and a song that is as indelible as

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Milkshake makes her no money. That fucking sucks. Yeah, I

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it sex to um. I think that if

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. So here's the thing. It feels all in

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>all like a bureaucratic error on Parkwoods and on the

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>on the side of Parkwood's camp, and I feel like

0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no world we're in. Beyonce would not like worship

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>an artist like Police, like understands. I'm sure they're her,

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 1>but and so I just I don't understand. I think

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that here's that the thing for me is like I

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>um or rather not that I don't understand. I understand

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it just as clearly as you've laid it out for

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the Virgins. But what I I just feel like you

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>can be messy online and you can be mad about

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the things that are stolen from you. I have had

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>work from stolen from me, and I've decided not to

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>say anything because talking about it publicly makes me look

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>messy too. You know what I feel like? What I

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like Police shouldn't have. I just feel like if

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I was her, I would not release a statement like

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the in the first hours of the album dropping. I

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>would go out to Parkwood first and then get mad

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>if I was not responding to actually disagree, because I

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>think that what Plice is doing is very smart, because

0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>she's using the promotional engine of this the album for

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>her own gain. Because I don't think what Calice really

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>wants is like acknowledgement from Beyonce, which I'm sure has

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>already had. Beyonce has sent her an edible arrangement. I'm sure,

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm even sure that some money has or will change hands.

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>What Calice is doing very smartly, I think, is knowing

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that this album is the biggest thing happening in pop

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>culture now, and by bringing this up, by turning it

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>into drama that people can write about, she is reminding

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone of this really fucked up thing that happened to

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>her and that happens to artists and especially female artists

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and especially black artists all the time. And she is

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>using this album cycle and all the eyes on it

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to remind people, hey, I got sucked over and this

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't right. And maybe because of that, who knows what

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>will happen, like outside of the Beyonce of it all,

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe Farrell will finally like get her some publishing rights back.

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this will start some kind of change for her

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and for the industry at large. I think she was

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>very calculated and how she and how she brought this up,

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and if you watch the whole video that she made,

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.439
<v Speaker 1>she is really smart and she addresses this is all

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>in a way that is really easy for people to understand,

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't. It does not feel thoughtless or

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>heated to me. She knew exactly what she was doing. Okay,

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>so the girls need to know that, because I feel

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 1>like the way that people are talking about it on

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>social is misogynists, like they're pitting the two of them

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:41.879
<v Speaker 1>against each other in a way that doesn't sound true

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>at all. And like you to Chalice and her saying sure,

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 1>if you talked to Beyonce, Beyonce would be like, fuck yes,

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I respect Chalice. Fuck yes. I know the impact she's

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>on the kind of music I make and on the

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of artist I am. Yeah, but you know, it's

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's a sample that I can can barely hear,

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>just crazy and I am honestly. Same thing with um

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Alien Superstar. I had no idea that that was I'm

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Too Sexy? Did you know? Yeah, it's so I think.

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's so obvious. I never would have guessed,

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but I loved it because I think I'm Too Sexy

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 1>is like kind of a bad song, but like they found,

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was, you know, so gorgeously rendered.

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>And same thing with the milkshake sample, like it sounds incredible,

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and I love how the samples cross album are like

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.240
<v Speaker 1>really chopped up, you know what I mean, M speaking

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of being too sexy. Um, two very sexy songs with

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>different vibes are church Girl and Plastic Off the Sofa.

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Church Girl is like so overtly sexy and you know

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 1>about like you know, kind of it's always it's always

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the ones you like least expect um. And then Plastic

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Off the Sofa is like very sexy. But I also

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's the closest thing to a ballad on this album. Um,

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's like perfectly sets up Virgoscrew because it

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of like lows you. It's was like it gives

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of a break, um right before

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you know the album is really like about to fucking

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>smack you in the face with a pair of titties.

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>When I first listened to church Girl, because it is

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly that, I did feel kind of smacked in the face.

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>And it was the first song that I I was

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, didn't like, but it was the first song

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that I had a negative reaction to, and only upon

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>going back to it and listening to it in different ways,

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like listening to it not on my headphones and in

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a sound system is like, I think, a completely different experience. Um.

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But like Churchgirll was the first song where I listened

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to lyrics and I like I had a little cringe moment,

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:43.720
<v Speaker 1>but like it now has like looped around and become

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>one of my more favorite songs on the album because

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:50.439
<v Speaker 1>it kind of goes so hard. Um, I I think

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 1>you know this song church Girl is like a great

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>emblem for the fact that Beyonce will always be weird

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and she'll always try really hard, and you know, sometimes

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>her lyrics are a little but like we still kind

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of love her for that. Um, I can see yeah

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and like I don't know when she

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 1>said you cad me my daddy, I just I still

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I still do this moment Like Beyonce, I can tell

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>me anything, like I will always chew it up, but

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like it's just I still don't It's fine. It's a

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of work to make jay Z seem hot. Well. Well,

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:32.720
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing though, is like kind of her entire

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>music career is like trying to make jay Zz not

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and like jay Z is in a lot of songs

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to her in past albums, like daddy to her, you

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But then sometimes Beyonce is daddy,

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>which I also love, like with a song like Upgrade

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you um or a lot of Lemonade, like and I

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you know mommy on this album. Finally, I

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>think to say, I think in some songs she is mommy,

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I like that. It's especially church Girl

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in Plastic off the Off the Sofa, I think your big,

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:08.879
<v Speaker 1>big mommy milkers vibes Plastic Plastic off the Sofa brought

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>me back into my fields. I you know, I I

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:13.839
<v Speaker 1>rolled my eyes a little bit because I was like, oh,

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce always has a song like this on the album.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Right with Lemonade, it was sand Castles or is the

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>sand Castle the castle? Yes? I love sand love sand castles,

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>um I on the on the Lion King album, she

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 1>had um that song on the other Side, which I

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>also love, and like this is like you know Exo,

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the it's it's a little ex so it's exo. Exo

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>goes a little a little dancier, but like um or

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the Maybe it's the Heaven. Maybe Heaven is

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the Plastic off the Sofa on on self titled Oh heaven. Wow,

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, we're going deep today. I mean, I

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like my my one thing something that I appreciated

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>about this song is that I think it has the

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>fewest credits on it and and it was I think

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that the simplicity of just having sid from the internet,

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>which is an amazing I like, I will not you

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>know it's so funny. Is No, I don't. I don't

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 1>know a single friend of mine that like sand Castles,

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 1>like I don't give an I don't give about what

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I do think is definitely one of my favorite songs,

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 1>if not my favorite song, and I think one of

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the best songs in the album. Virgos Groove Virgos Group.

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Virgos Groove is the cultural reset. Virgos Groove is Minions

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Rise of grou Virgos Virgos Groove, not Manions Rise. Virgos

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Groove is snorting a line of coke off someone's dick

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>or someone's argos grow Virgo Virgos Groove. I think it's

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>like when you've been fucking for like an hour and

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like that point where it's like we gotta do

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.359
<v Speaker 1>some drugs. Yeah. No, I think it's at the point

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>where like it's really good, You're really vibe. Um Virgos

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>group is so sexy. It's so seventies. It's the production

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is immaculate and so surprising, Like I think the the

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 1>lyrics always come in at a time when I'm like

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not really expecting them. It's like, I think, the most

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>traditionally melodic song on the album and yet still manages

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to surprise you and be unexpected. It's so fun to

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.359
<v Speaker 1>dance too. I was at La LA's the other night

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and we were like putting on wigs and listening to

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the album, and this song came on and it was

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>just so fun and vibe. It's hot. It made me,

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it made me want to fuck I it's so horny,

0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it's so Beyonce, but it's also so disco. The production

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>is gorgine. We have to shout out. The transition from plastics,

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>so plastic off the sofa to Virgos groove is goose bumpy,

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so good, and I love like the art

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of transitions between songs, like in the era of streaming,

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>like this song made me change my Spotify settings that

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I could hear the end and the transition of every song,

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 1>like this is an album and is meant to be

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>listened to that way. I have not listened to this

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>album on shuffle yet and I don't know that I will. No,

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it should never be listened to on shuffle. That would

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>be like blasphemous. But like to your point about you know,

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.359
<v Speaker 1>dance music and how this the vibe that this has,

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>like it just it's the first song where I was like,

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>this is Studio fifty four, Like this is like like

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, that's like one of her references right,

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like her her on the horse on this album cover

0:56:57.520 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>is like Bianca Jagger like riding into a student fifty

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.280
<v Speaker 1>four and like also I guess like Lady or whatever

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and an American horror story. No, not that um but honestly,

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:13.240
<v Speaker 1>actually like the intersection of like Lady Godiva and Bianca

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Jaggart Studio fifty four and also Ketamine. Listen, the Horse

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 1>really works as like Tranquilizer Summer. Yeah it's a horse

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Tranquilizers Summer. I love how long it is. I wish

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it was longer, but I like how it changes at

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the end and then right before the song ends, it

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>brings that like melodic refrain back, so you get it.

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>One more time before you move on to Move featuring

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>featuring Grace Jones not honestly, not one of my favorites

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>on the album. And I also think like Grace is

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a little underused. Okay, that is the take. I was

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>angry on my Instagram story about this. If you have

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Grace motherfucking Jones, a woman who has on the record

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>said many many times that she will never collaborate with

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>major pop artists, that she will never be like it

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 1>has been a long time coming for any Grace Jones

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>collab to happen in buy with contemporary artists like she

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>is vehemently against it. So if you get Grace motherfucking Jones,

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the idols of this era of music, like,

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you better give her a proper feature and like she

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds so elegant, so queenly. I love that Beyonce. I've

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 1>seen videos of her, of her live dancing naked with

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the body. I saw her live at a couple of

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>years ago she did afro punk and it was so good.

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>She's still honestly, it's so incredible. This song is a

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>song that my prediction is that she's going to release

0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>a visual album for this, and I think she has

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a music video for every song, and I think that

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the smallness of Grace's feature is maybe because she has

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a bigger part in the music video itself. That's my

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.120
<v Speaker 1>my hopeful prediction. I would love to see it. I

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 1>would love to see it. Move is actually one of

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the songs that I love. Like it's funny, it's an

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>immediate catchphrase. It's like when you're when you're walking down

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the street listening to this song and moving past New

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>York pedestrians, like I'm like, how many times I'm gonna

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>say it? Girl? Like it's it's a stupid Like moments

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, I feel like I'm like I'm actually in

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 1>for how stupid and silly or like kind of um

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.479
<v Speaker 1>not even stupid, Like it's it's flipping like this song

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like discards you and I need to spend That's one

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of those songs I need to spend a little more

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 1>time with. Um. I think that for me, the moment

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>is when great like right in the middle of Grace's feature,

0:59:54.720 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce like just barely she whispers Grace Grace Joe like yeah,

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and I and I but I love that, like to

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>have Beyonce say introducing Grace motherfucking Jones. Like that's iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I wish it was a true feature.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that Thames is on this album like twice,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, they're all properly featured, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I was also kind of I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed this, but they they weren't originally credited on the album.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be just only the track list, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least when it dropped on Spotify for me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was only the track list, and then a day later,

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Jones and Thames appeared as parentheticals to these the

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<v Speaker 1>track list um, which I wondered what that was all about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean I had never yeah, just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's one woman you're not going to cross this

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<v Speaker 1>Grace mother. Well, I'm very happy we didn't see Heated

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<v Speaker 1>featuring Drake because I Heated is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>songs in the them. It was so it was Drake

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<v Speaker 1>did some work on it. We don't know the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of it, if it was just like writing or producing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can definitely hear him on it. Um and this

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<v Speaker 1>song did make me want to go back and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to his most recent album more Um, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he did is so good again, like a song that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of flips halfway through. I love the end of

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<v Speaker 1>it when it's kind of like that rapid fire like dialogue. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I love Heated. It's so good. He did

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<v Speaker 1>as also one of my favorite songs. It is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the song that I can't stop like saying parts of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like to myself. Um, I will say, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought a lot bum bum bum bum Wait. No, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we will get to that. But to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>drink of it all, like, we haven't seen a Drake

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce collab since um Mine, Oh my god Mine is

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking good, and the songs are definitely in conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. Um and I just girl, I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to, we have to. So here's a moment

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like both can be true about Beyonce's rapping.

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<v Speaker 1>She can be corny, but also she did not miss

1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a single. How did she do it? I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the lyrics and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do it along with her, and I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to do a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic reading of some of these lyrics. Actually okay, whiskey

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 1>till I'm tipsy, glaring off. My wrist goes click, jumbles

1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.720
<v Speaker 1>on my hip, stretch marks on my something, drinking my water,

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<v Speaker 1>minding my bis Monday, I'm overrated Tuesday on my ship

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<v Speaker 1>um flip flop flip flop, flippy flop flip flop flahen,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes fine, I'd be curious to see what like

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<v Speaker 1>the ballroom community thinks about it, because it's very clearly

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<v Speaker 1>an homage to ballroom m c s. And like, how

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<v Speaker 1>you know masterful that really is? But like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite, I pretty sure my favorite is the Yemma

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<v Speaker 1>when she says like it's like it's giving. It's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's giving. It's giving PEPs, horru and egg in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way. Thick was one that I like, liked the

1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:34.960
<v Speaker 1>idea of a lot, and then it's just like not

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<v Speaker 1>one I've like spent a lot of. It's not when

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to us actively when I'm listening to the album, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, I love it. I I appreciate that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the horniest song on the album. Like I'm pretty sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure is the horniest song. I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was the song where she says eating dick like mastros

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what was fiance has never talked

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<v Speaker 1>about eating dick like that is ething um um, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't this long all up in your mind. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorites. Um so. So this is produced by

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<v Speaker 1>blood Pop, also a g cook who does a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work with Charlie xc x UM. This for me

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<v Speaker 1>is like I like the idea that beyoncet. It was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making a music that sounds like a gay club,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if I'm going to do that, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to lean into this like PC music, like Blee Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff a little bit and like a little and like

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<v Speaker 1>again as we were talking, without being hyperop, without being

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<v Speaker 1>hyper pop, because the thing is like, yes, as we

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier, she's a little late to making this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of music, but if she's going to do it, she's

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<v Speaker 1>only going to do it for one song. She's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get the best people who make that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>music and she's going to really nail it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love this song. I think it's very like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to the album for the first time, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh yeah, this is like that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the night this is like the eight Am song when

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<v Speaker 1>you are like when the one is starting to come

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<v Speaker 1>up and you have been dancing for hours and your

1:05:03.920 --> 1:05:07.400
<v Speaker 1>feet hurt, but like the drugs are really working and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone like you don't want to look too closely at

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<v Speaker 1>anyone or at yourself, but like you're still having a

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<v Speaker 1>great time and you're a little spaced out. I just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so like propulsive um and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like ugly sexy. It's like it's like horny nous

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<v Speaker 1>that's like kind of bordering on, like you should go

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<v Speaker 1>home soon, but like you're you're not ready to, and

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<v Speaker 1>like this is I think it's the perfect setup for

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<v Speaker 1>the America has a problem because how I feel about

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<v Speaker 1>like a night out of the club and like I

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<v Speaker 1>like techno more than you do, but um, I always

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I can't. I can listen to techno all night,

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<v Speaker 1>I can dance to techno or like in my youth,

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<v Speaker 1>um up until you know, the early hours of the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>but then once the sun comes up, I gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>house in disco. You gotta lift it back up. And

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<v Speaker 1>this to me feels like that last push of the

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<v Speaker 1>Oot Studs industrial music. And then Baby, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back up. I am floored by that analysis

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<v Speaker 1>because it has brought so much more appreciation to these

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<v Speaker 1>for me, for to these songs which I would never

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<v Speaker 1>skip a Beyonce song, and this album is no skips

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But if I did skip one song, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be America has a problem. And I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>all up in your mind and America has a problem

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<v Speaker 1>could have been combined. And I think because I was

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<v Speaker 1>not picking, I was picking up on the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you have said so clearly. I'm concertized. Like I I

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<v Speaker 1>like that I didn't really realize at first, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's that come up. It's that like end of

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<v Speaker 1>the night, like we're we're cruising off our drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out what we're gonna do next, and like you're

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<v Speaker 1>almost coming down and then something staves you at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. But like, hey, when all up, when all

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<v Speaker 1>up in your mind, when like when it starts and

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<v Speaker 1>you wear that nasty techno like no none done done, doom,

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<v Speaker 1>don't no, no don't. I was like that it was

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<v Speaker 1>so nasty and like, yeah, these are kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the techno songs um I appreciate, but I appreciated them

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, and I think the emotional can see

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<v Speaker 1>of alloping your mind is very sexy, very Beyonce. And

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<v Speaker 1>then America has a problem, Like I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>are we getting like a social justice kind of moment?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's actually, I'm glad it wasn't. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually very horny and it's just about this yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what we needed, and I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I think she was honestly trolling by putting

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<v Speaker 1>that on the track list, and then you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get to get to then you get lifted truly,

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<v Speaker 1>like Up into Heaven by Pure Honey, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite song on the album if it's not cozy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard to have a favorite. But babe,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think of Pure Honey? Like how did

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<v Speaker 1>you like? I mean, it is pure honey and it

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<v Speaker 1>is now in the pantheon of women saying about honey

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<v Speaker 1>a k A. Robert Um. Yes, yeah, actually it's so

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<v Speaker 1>smooth and sweet. I mean it is just like honey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Beyonce. If we haven't talked about this yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce sounds so good on this album in actually like

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<v Speaker 1>a very understated way. I think, and this like last

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<v Speaker 1>burst of the album Pure Honey and Summer Renaissance. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when she really like lets her voice out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and like Pure Honey is that moment of

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<v Speaker 1>the night where like I just want to give someone

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<v Speaker 1>a hug. I just want to hug my friend on

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<v Speaker 1>the dance for for like five minutes and then like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love that transitionally, it starts with the nasty

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<v Speaker 1>and I love like with Kevin Aviance sample that like

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I don't know if you were

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<v Speaker 1>from I. I feel like I grew up all grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I came into like New York clubs

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<v Speaker 1>with like Kevin Aviance and that song specifically like everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>like the country, Like I think it's a very like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a staple in ballroom. Um. I felt like this

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<v Speaker 1>song was the most ballroom um and and I I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's part of why it's my favorite. I think

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<v Speaker 1>are the most ballroom. Yeah, I feel like, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot for for Beyonce to not just

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<v Speaker 1>highlight Kevin Aviance, but to also have you know, Mike Q,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Prodigy, like um, Miss Honey, the drag Queen on

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<v Speaker 1>this song. Um, in addition to someone like Ts Madison

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<v Speaker 1>and someone like Honey to John Like these are all

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<v Speaker 1>like not all of them are like super underground, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. You know, Beyonce listeners have never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of these people before, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that putting Kevin Aviance like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a deep motherfucking cut, don't you think, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I just never it's not a deep cut to us,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, culture, it's so to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Aviance and Mike you are are on a Beyonce

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<v Speaker 1>record is incredible. Yeah, And for if you're not familiar,

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<v Speaker 1>have an aubiance is like some people would say drag queen,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, like nightlife performer like some would and

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<v Speaker 1>honestly club kid, club kid, I would say, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Mike you Kevin Prodigy is the one that does them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I want to see, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that song like um, but some a Renaissance girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Renaissance is amazing. Album closer wish Donna Summer

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<v Speaker 1>was still alive so she could be on the song.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, right, but also there just should have

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<v Speaker 1>been more Donna like that this sample could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love that it was at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that iconic beat is at the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>I I my one complaint honestly as a closer, it

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<v Speaker 1>should have been eight to ten minutes long. She could

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<v Speaker 1>have used more Donna. It would have been true to

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<v Speaker 1>the all of her references, which like disco in house

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<v Speaker 1>in this era is like eight to ten minutes long.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the artist to do it, which everyone's only

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<v Speaker 1>making two minute fucking TikTok songs. And if everyone, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's someone who doesn't care about the motherfucking algorithm, it's Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>So she had the power to do it. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, as we said earlier, she clearly had

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<v Speaker 1>or rather her team clearly had a lot of ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and they could have thrown so much more into the

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<v Speaker 1>final song would have been a banger. Way, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if if if what it comes down to is that,

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<v Speaker 1>like shoot, there was only going to be one song

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<v Speaker 1>that she did, a long song. I'm happy it was

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<v Speaker 1>Virgo's Groove because that song is her rather than like

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<v Speaker 1>something that is like almost entirely referential. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>does kind of make sense for her to especially if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about this album is like a night out,

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<v Speaker 1>a night of dancing, Like yeah, in the morning, like

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<v Speaker 1>when the party is about to end, the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear is Donna Summer because honestly, the

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<v Speaker 1>last song I usually want to hear at a party

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<v Speaker 1>is last Dance. Yeah yeah, true, true true, And like

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<v Speaker 1>it was I I it was perfectly placed. Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, you know, these both of these songs

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<v Speaker 1>of Pure Honey and Summer Renaissance, it's like they also

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<v Speaker 1>have the you know, three songs in one kind of effect.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just felt like, uh, there's such perfect songs.

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<v Speaker 1>They's so so experimental, and they mash tons of ideas together,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to talk about the album as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like watching her have fun and watch her

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<v Speaker 1>to watch her be you know, imperfect sometimes by throwing

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<v Speaker 1>all of these crazy ideas together was like thrilling and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to have Beyonce do like a ballroom mc

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<v Speaker 1>like kaa ka ka km moment like over an AfroB

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<v Speaker 1>with like a sister Nancy asked, kind of like microphone

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<v Speaker 1>effect over it. It's like it's such a a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of parts of these songs are like big mish mashes

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<v Speaker 1>of ideas, But I think that's just how Beyonce has

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<v Speaker 1>always been. And like, I think that her art is

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<v Speaker 1>best when it's all credited right there. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the best executions of an album

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<v Speaker 1>that she's ever done. And I don't know, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>like why I love her. What what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You have any guesses or hopes as to what the

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<v Speaker 1>next two parts of this trilogy will be. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting theory I think it was. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was on who Weekly maybe or it was like someone

1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:25.920
<v Speaker 1>else's theory that they were talking about. Which is that,

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<v Speaker 1>Um that like all of the next two albums, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>also be on horses, but they'll be different horses that

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<v Speaker 1>like speak to the vibe of the album. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like the next album the country, the next album, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be a real horse and it'll be a country album. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's so which which would be cool? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think we'll get an album that is more

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<v Speaker 1>a bality and more emotional. Um. I also think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get something that's a little bit more hip hop,

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<v Speaker 1>R and B. I hope we continue to get sexy music. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she she wrote, As she said in her statement,

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote this during in the heat of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been working on it for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is music that they made indoors, craving time outdoors,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I hope it stays sexy. I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get you know, I mean, but Beyonce doing a

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<v Speaker 1>country album like gag, like we will all gobble that up. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I love that this whole album was about sex,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that, you know, it was a great

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<v Speaker 1>reprieve from you know, pretty much every other pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>most songs that she's done before, which are my man

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on me and he's no good, motherfucking piece of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And like here's how I'm going to tell you why,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, you know, I love that. That's like why

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<v Speaker 1>we love Beyonce, and she has decades of work making

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<v Speaker 1>music about her cheating man and you know, money and

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<v Speaker 1>capital and stuff. But um, I don't know. I love

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<v Speaker 1>her sex songs. So I don't think for me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>has not been long enough with this them to place

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<v Speaker 1>it within Beyonce's other work. Um, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel differently, but um, what are your You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we spend a lot of time talking about this, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think we maybe won't do as deep a dive

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<v Speaker 1>into Beyonce as like we initially thought. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>interested to know what is your top three of Beyonce albums,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you can include Renaissance if like you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to to include it. But I will include Renaissances. I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty, I'm pretty. Gosh darn sure it's Renaissance. It's Lemonade. Shit, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's between beat in self titled. Uh, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the v DA track list. It might it might be

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<v Speaker 1>be Day might can I can I guess your other two? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I will guess self titled? Okay, I got that right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I will guess dangerously in love. Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually this was a Twitter problem. You're a traditional.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a Twitter prompt and I tweeted earlier and

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<v Speaker 1>I said four, but I, upon reflection, it is dangerously

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<v Speaker 1>in love. So my my holy trinity is b Day

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<v Speaker 1>self titled and dangerously in love love justice for I

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<v Speaker 1>am Sasha, Fears and Arrow we do not acknowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>was edged out because I look there are some songs

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<v Speaker 1>on four that I really really love, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love four as holy as an album, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just think Dangerously in Love is a better cohesive

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<v Speaker 1>project and and just has the hits. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>School in Life and I Care, which are on four,

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<v Speaker 1>are probably in top five top seven Beyonce songs at

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<v Speaker 1>the End of Time, so it's funny in top ten

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I fucking love end of Time, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with B Day, Like the other night, I

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<v Speaker 1>was at our friend's house and we were watching We

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<v Speaker 1>were like doing that thing where it's like everyone suggests

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube video, and I suggested that the Deja Vu video,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to me my favorite Beyonce video. Um, it's incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>um one, And I think jay Z's best verse on

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<v Speaker 1>a Beyonce song, and I do know by heart. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I love B Day so much. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the album of Beyonce's when I was the most obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with Beyonce, because it came out my freshman year of college,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the Beyonce album that I really the only

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<v Speaker 1>time in my life I've ever felt like a Beyonce

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<v Speaker 1>stand because I love Beyonce, but I'm not like obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with her. Um. I listened to her music when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and it becomes part of the fabric of

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<v Speaker 1>the music that I listened to, but I don't find

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<v Speaker 1>myself going back to it over and over again. But

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<v Speaker 1>B Day really was that for me. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>time in my life when Beyonce really clicked for me

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<v Speaker 1>the most. You know, UM, to to mirror your story

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<v Speaker 1>like be Da was also I'm pretty sure the album

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<v Speaker 1>that defined my the beginning of my relationship to Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Beyonce as a as a solo artist, I should say, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've told this story on the pod before,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Destiny Fulfilled was a huge part of my

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<v Speaker 1>secular awakening. I checked it out from the library and

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<v Speaker 1>it broke my whole world open. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>also had the Destiny'style Christmas holblem at home, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Destiny's Child and Beyonce in that what has has been

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge through up through line to through my

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<v Speaker 1>life and Beyonce is definitely an all times fonce you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be doing it there is um like I will have

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<v Speaker 1>a lifelong I will have a lifelong relationship to Beyonce

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<v Speaker 1>and like I will always be you know, I will

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<v Speaker 1>always be in the bee Hive. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from being the queer, the little closeted girl, like hawking

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<v Speaker 1>the library for things that are saucy and finding Beyonce,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never, in my wildest fan fiction would think

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<v Speaker 1>that she would come out with an album like Renaissance

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<v Speaker 1>that is so on the nose of like our various

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<v Speaker 1>communities and so in the know of like maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>in the know. I don't want to say that, because

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, you know, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity and this is a machine and they're making things

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<v Speaker 1>for consumption. But it is so um it has all

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<v Speaker 1>the right references and it makes me feel seen and

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<v Speaker 1>like I just I'm so grateful that this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the era that she's given us. And I'm like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful for I know they're gonna be visuals. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful for a visual album. I'm also I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not on this boat, but I'm hopeful for some fucking remixes,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the one album where I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to hear some remixes from and Beyonce doesn't really do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but like there could be some night or I would

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<v Speaker 1>at least love like you know, like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve inch version of some of the tracks. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>need a twelve inch version Virgins. Next week we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking all about bas Lerman and his of films. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have an assignment for next week. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to watch Strictly Ballroom, which I've never seen. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>excited for you to watch it. I first watched that

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<v Speaker 1>movie in my high school dance class and it has

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<v Speaker 1>never left my mindset. Well, we will obviously also be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about things like Romeo and Juliet. Um. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be going in on Elvis girl, I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Yes, we will be talking about Elvis. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're going to talk about Australia because

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<v Speaker 1>I never seen, never seen it. Don't have the time,

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the time. Maybe I'll skim, I'll watch a recap.

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<v Speaker 1>We could be love us just for one day. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a lot of singing on next week's episode.

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