1 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode nineteen of the Hammer 2 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Territory Podcast. I am your host, Sprad Roland, coming to 3 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: you on a Sunday. It is our first episode of 4 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: the month of June and our first episode and quite 5 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: some time with my usual co host who is now 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: back from his never ending European journey, Scott Coleman. How 7 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: are you, user, Brad. It is great to hear your voice. 8 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: You and the fellas Stephen and Sean did a phenomenal 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: job holding down the fort while I was away. Very 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: fortunately was able to get away with my wife for 11 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. But the podcast it probably is 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: the best it has ever been without me on it, 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: if we're being honest. But you all did a great 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: job and very happy to be back and home Territory. 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Yes, we're happy to have you back. That makes my 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: life a little bit easier not having to hustle down guests, 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: even though if it's definitely fun to talk to people 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: like Chris Willis and Grant McCauley, etc. We had Mark 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Bowman of the show on Friday with Stevens, so if 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: anybody missed that, I would encourage you to listen to 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: all of our shows, but especially that's the most recent 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: episode on this podcast. Also, we are a part of 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: the foul Territory Network. Check out the entire network, including 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: the flagship show at foul Territory, and please subscribe to 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: this podcast anywhere you might find your podcasts, of course, 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: places like Apple and Spotify, but overcast, podecasts again, all 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: the places you can find podcasts. We should be there, Scott. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Beyond you being back, and that is clearly the headline 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: on this Sunday evening, But beyond that, the Braves actually 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: won a baseball series this weekend, and it sort of 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: would have changed the vibe of this podcast had they 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: lost the series, because earlier this week, as we covered 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: extensively on this podcast feed, they lost the series to 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: the Nationals. In fact, it would have it was still 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: a losing week overall in the seven day but on 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: a more positive note, they both won a series, and 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: in breaking with tradition, they won on Sunday afternoon. 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never want to make too much of a 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: game in what June second, but it felt like they 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: really needed to win today's game. Coming into Sunday, they 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: were three and six over their last nine against the 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates, the Washington Nationals and the Oakland A's three 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: bad to horrible rosters. So to get a win on Sunday, 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: you win the series is nice. You have the day 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: off on Monday. I'm sure the flight to Boston will 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: be a little happier after the win. You never want 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: to lose series in general, and then you go out 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: with another series loss would have been really tough. So 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: thankfully they were able to pull out. But it ended 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: up being a pretty close to a fifty to fifty 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: game on Sunday afternoon, it was nice. Once again, the 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 2: offense was basically mia, which has been a theme for 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: a month now. I can't tell you how many times 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: when I was abroad I would check the box score 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: because as that they Braves would usually start at one 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: or two in the morning where I was with the 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: time difference, and man, it felt like every night it 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: was like one run, scored, two runs, scored, no runs, 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: one run, two run. It was never this offensive. Onslaught. 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: We got a little bit of that over. 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: The weekend, but once again, it's really just coming down 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: to the pitching having to hold serve. Just the offense 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: is just still not there. 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some very funny texts slash dms from 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Scott at like six thirty seven am or something my 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: time that we're just basically what is going on here? Anyway, 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: we could dive into what transpier for the weekend again, 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: if you missed anything from the not series, we did 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: cover it in detail on this podcast feed, but for 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: the most part we're gonna focus on Friday, Saturday, Sunday 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: and the takeaways on this show. Friday was a series 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: opening victory against the A's Ronald Lopez, who has been 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic story. We've covered that in detail, but he 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: now leads the National League in era, which speaks that's 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: all you need to know about that. Era is not 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the end all be all. Well, his peripherals are not 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: as good as that, but he has a ERA in 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the one range, which is all you need to know 79 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: about that. But he was excellent again on Friday. The 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: opposite had enough basically one big swing my jeer at 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: kelnick A Nice I would say, surprise, Kendidy, I guess lefty, 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: But that was That was the final game of May. 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: Scott so kind of punctuated a otherwise pretty brutal month 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: on a slightly high note at the end, and you. 85 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: Just you cannot say enough good things about Ronaldo Lopez 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: and what he has done for this team. I mean, again, 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: a guy who I think a lot of folks thought 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: was going to be in the bullpen, and ever since 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: the spring man, he just goes out there every fifth 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: or sixth day and gets results. And he's been so 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: good a one to three seven ERA through ten starts. 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: I think the Braves have done a really nice job 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: giving him extra rest when they can. I know we're 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: going to talk about that a little bit, because there's 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: not a great option right now in the fifth spot 96 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: in the rotation, but anytime the Braves can push back 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Renaldo Lopez a day or two in the rotation, it 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: has proven to be really beneficial. And at this point, 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: a fun little note, Renaldo Lopez is up to fifty 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: seven innings, so if he makes a start or to 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: this upcoming week, he's actually going to surpass his number 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: of innings thrown in both twenty twenty two and twenty 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: twenty three. He averaged about sixty five innings out of 104 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: the bullpen in the last two years, so he's going 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: to pass that now. Obviously, the Braves have built him 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: up as a starter and plan I would assume to 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: continue writing him as a starter as long as they can. 108 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Maybe at some point if the stuff falls off or 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: the velocity starts to dip, they'll have to make a change. 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: But it's almost impossible to not keep giving him the 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: ball every week because he's been so good, so effective, 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: and I mean we're about six weeks away from the 113 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: All Star Game. He is pretty locked in as a 114 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: real candidate to be one of the National League starting pitchers, 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: which I don't know if anybody had that on their 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: BINGO card coming into the year. It's something that you 117 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: usually associate with young pitchers as far as the endings 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: limit concern and looking at past endings totals to kind 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 2: of outline what might happen. And you know, the news 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: broke right before I record a solo podcast midweek about 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: Ronaldo being pushed back a day and there was no injury, 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of people were having negative reactions, and 123 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: I think most of that, to be charitable, was because 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: the Braves don't really have that they that they want 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: to pitch in that fifth spot, and I get that, 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: but I think big picture, and I'd always encourage people 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: to to kind of think about this big picture. You know, yes, 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: throwing Raykerr in the middle of the week versus Lopez 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: makes you worse. But keeping Renaldo Lopez healthy, fresh, and 130 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: able to continue to start matters a lot more than 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: that one outing in late May. So they're good to 132 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: be comfortable, sorry, careful with him, it seems like. And 133 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense because of what you 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: just said about the innings totals. Yes, he started at 135 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: one point, but it's been four or five years since 136 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: he was a full time starter. And for me, if 137 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: it ain't broke, don't fix it, Like give him five 138 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: days off between starts, that's totally fine with me. 139 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: If you have to sprinkle in a Schwellenbach, a ray 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: Kerr or whoever it's going to be in between that, 141 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't really worry about that. And honestly, 142 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: the Braves kind of had this uniquely busy schedule because 143 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: they had so many off days for so long it 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: didn't really matter. But then they played. I think it 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, fourteen to fifteen days in a row, 146 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: and that led to one of these decisions being made. 147 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: But for me, like keep giving an extra day off 148 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: when whenever he wants or needs one, I don't really care. 149 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Keep him fresh, keep him locked in, and you know, 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: having four quality starters is a pretty good place to be. 151 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: But Lopez, look, it's it's going to regress his eras 152 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: in the low ones, like that's not going to sustain. 153 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: But even if it was in the low threes, you'd 154 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: be doing cartwells And now I would. 155 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: Be yeah, yeah, Now he's been a revolution for the 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: rotation and offensively Friday Night only four runs, But I 157 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: did want to mention with the Ronald Dcunya junior injury, 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: of course, Jared Kalnick is going to be playing every 159 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 2: day and that includes against lefties, and that was something 160 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: the Braves went out and actively added Adam Duvall towards 161 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: the end of the spring to ensure that Kelnick was 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: never really going to face lefties, and that was a 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: move I think we all liked at the time, and frankly, 164 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: we like it a lot more having both of those 165 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: guys without Acunya. But Kelnick had a really nice to 166 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: run double off the lefty on Friday Night, and I 167 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: think Kelnick is starting to come around a little bit. 168 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: His numbers are pretty average on the season. I believe 169 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: he's around a one hundred WRC plus, which is hardly 170 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: bad by any means. The strikeout rate is slowly coming down, 171 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: the walk rate is slowly rising. He has not been 172 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: great by any means. 173 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 174 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to blow this out of proportion, but 175 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: it feels like Kelnick is settling in a little bit, 176 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: and if he can give the Brave something in left 177 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: field and do all can supply a little bit of 178 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: power and right field at least for the next two 179 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: months until the trade deadline. For the opportunity to add somebody, 180 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I think you have to take it and hope that 181 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: he just keeps getting better now, especially that they did 182 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: tweak his swing a little bit, it felt inevitable that 183 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: it was going to take him a little bit of 184 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: time to settle in and hopefully some power continues to 185 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: come to He's hit a couple of balls and driven 186 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: the ball well, he just hasn't had a ton to 187 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: show for it and the power department, but again, you know, 188 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: the Braves if the top of the order is going 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: to start to hit like Matt Olsen and Austin Riley, 190 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Marcelo Juna has been so good. If Kelnick can give 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: them something in the seventh or eighth spot in the 192 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: lineup most nights, it's really going to help things along. 193 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: This is overly simplistic, but Jared Kellnick currently has a 194 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: one o two WRC plus for the season. I think 195 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: you have to take that. Obviously you would want a 196 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: little bit more from him, to your point, but you know, 197 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: I think that you are okay with him being a 198 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: league average hitter who who fields the ball, has a 199 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: good arm left field. There is upside there. But as 200 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: we talked to him a lot in the winter, with 201 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: what they're paying him, which is very little, just getting 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: a league average bat from him is fine, and they 203 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: have to kind of have him out there every day, 204 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: like you mentioned so And by the way, I guess 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: we should acknowledge that you you missed the Iron Accunion 206 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: news when you were abroad. I know you, I know you 207 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: obviously saw it happen, but well, I tried to fill 208 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: in for you with the Tiger Woods memes along the way, 209 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: But did you have a reaction beyond that? Sucks that sadness. 210 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: Had a couple of glasses of wine and honor Ronald. 211 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: We were in Italy, so there was no shortage of 212 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: wine flowing. 213 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Very sad. 214 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just crushing. We don't have to 215 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: relive and pick at that scab, but very very sad. 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: I feel awful for Ronald the quote about him crying 217 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: and just feeling isolated, and you know he talked about 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: that at length in the off season following his ACL 219 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: tear in twenty twenty one, how he just felt so 220 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: helpless at the time of the injury. I hope he's 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: doing okay. He is going to have surgery on Tuesday, 222 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: which was announced. We just have to hope for the 223 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: best and hopefully it's just a minor side step and 224 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: what'll be a really great. 225 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: And long career for Ronald. Well, we'll have some more 226 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: positive stuff talk about beyond that injury, but just wanted 227 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: to resurface it because you were back. And also we'll 228 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: close the book finally on the month of May. We'll 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: look ahead to June a little bit talk about Saturday 230 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: and Sunday and more of bats. 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The offense was brutal. We all 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: know that had they averaged three point four runs per 268 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: game in the month of May, which is just crazy 269 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: for this offense to do. They had a three saturd 270 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: three slight percentage, just brutal stuff. But how are they 271 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: able to go thirteen and fourteen in that sample size? Well, 272 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: they were top five in baseball and all of baseball, 273 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: not just the National League, all of baseball on era 274 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: strikeout rate and when's a both replacement for pitchers and 275 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: it's basically everyone. The bullpen was awesome, top five in baseball. 276 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: The starters were mostly awesome. My favorite sat here just 277 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: to kind of get it back into our Lopez conversation 278 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: from earlier one point five to combined era in the 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: month of May for Lopez, Chris Sale, and Max Freed, 280 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: three starters combined for a one point five two ra 281 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Is that pretty good? Yeah, that's gonna work. 282 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, just a phenomenal job by especially Freed and 283 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: Sale in the month of May. I know Sale got 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: beat up pretty good on Saturday afternoon, But yes, you 285 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: cannot say enough about the starting rotation. And you know, 286 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: despite you mentioned the thirteen and fourteen record, I think 287 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: you have to take that every single day of the week, 288 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: knowing how bad the offense was, and despite all the injuries, 289 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: and despite the offense being so bad for six weeks now, 290 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: this team is still on pace to win about ninety 291 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: four or ninety five games, which is pretty wild to say. 292 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like that, at least to me, because 293 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: they've been I believe, just below five hundred now since 294 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: the start of May, or rather going back to April 295 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: rather mid mid April. It's just been an unconventional right. 296 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody would have asked two months ago. 297 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: How the Braves are doing. It's well, the starting rotation 298 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: has been ungodly, but the offense can't score more than 299 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: two or three runs every night. I really just we 300 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: know how good this team was a year ago with 301 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: the plate. I just don't think anybody would have necessarily 302 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: expected that. And at the end of the day, if 303 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: you can go about five hundred with the issues that 304 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: this roster has right now, I guess you have to 305 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: take it and just hope they are better days on 306 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: the horizon. 307 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. The runner up for crazy stat in May, beyond 308 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: all the offensive stuff was the fact that I mentioned 309 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: the three point four to two era for the starting 310 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: rotation in the month of May. That number includes five 311 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: starts from Bryce Elder and Ray Kerr in which they 312 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: combined for twenty three earned runs and nineteen and the 313 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: third innings, so their era was like ten And that 314 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: includes that, and the ARIA was still in the low 315 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: threes with this arders pretty crazy stuff. 316 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is such a bummer that Spencer Streider is hurt, 317 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: because if you had Streider with Max Freed, you have 318 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: Chris Sale, who has turned the clock back a decade. Yeah, 319 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: Fornaldo Lopez, who has been nearly perfect, and then old 320 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: Charlie Morton at age forty as your number five. I mean, 321 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: that could have been an unbelievable rotation. The rotation has 322 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: been really good, but you've just listed off those numbers. 323 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: They they have not been able to settle in with 324 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: the fifth starter spot when it seems like there's a 325 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: bright spot with a J. Smith Shauver, he of course 326 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: now has heard. It's just been a never ending carousel. 327 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: You just have to hope that somebody can settle in 328 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: and solidify the back end, because otherwise that top four 329 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: has given you everything you could really hope for. 330 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: It is pretty wild to think about. I mean, I 331 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: think obtendidly it would have been the best rotation in 332 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: baseball if Strider was Strider and Lopez was Lopez that 333 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: we've seen this year, and Sale was the sale that 334 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: we've seen this year, et cetera. That's a lot of 335 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: positive things that would have had to go right. But 336 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: still if that had happened, it would have been kind 337 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: of scary. So, yeah, you're right, it's highly unfortunate. Even 338 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: if that's the injury, that's not the most focused on 339 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: one right now because of a Cunya that was a 340 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: brutal loss as well. Anyway, speaking of brutal losses, Saturday's game, 341 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the Braves had their most runs scored in a loss 342 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: all season, so nine runs, thirteen hits, four walks. It's 343 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of crazy that they had a what I would 344 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: describe as a breakout game for the offense and lost. 345 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: Is the only time all year that they really have 346 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: had a big offensive game and lost in general. And 347 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Chris Sale essentially was human for the first time. Obviously, 348 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about us a lot. He was not going 349 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to ever be able to, you know, just be perfect forever. 350 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: But it's his first batstar and I think we talked 351 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: about it with Graham mcaulay on the show last week. 352 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Chris Sale was the best picture in the world for 353 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: the month of May, so maybe he was due. That's 354 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: all I got for you. 355 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think Sale had his command on 356 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. Quite a few sliders right in the middle 357 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: of the plate that Oakland's lineup did not miss. I mean, 358 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: it's not an it is not a lifeless lineup for 359 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: the A. I mean it's not good, but it's they 360 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: have some guys who can beach, especially from the right side. 361 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: He just didn't have his command, left the slider in 362 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: the zone too much, and the ball was really jumping 363 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: on Saturday, not just in Atlanta, but across the league. 364 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Maybe as the weather is warming up, we're finally going 365 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: to see some more offense, although there was not much 366 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: of it on Sunday, just at one of those days 367 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: for Chris Sale. I mean, thankfully the offense did show 368 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: up to help cover it up for him a little bit. 369 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: It's a bummer they couldn't score a few more runs 370 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: towards the end of the game to come back all 371 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: the way. Because they were down eight to three early 372 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: and being able to then go up nine to eight, 373 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: it was. 374 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: Like, Hey, the Braves are back. This is the Braves lineup. 375 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: That we all know and love so well. Sadly, it 376 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: was just kind of the end of what the offense 377 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: could do. But no concerns about Sale. I think it 378 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: was just one of those games and I'm sure he'll 379 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: bounce back next weekend. 380 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree on that, And you mentioned the comeback. 381 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: They were able to do that. You know, Matt Olsen 382 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: a two run homer in the midst of that six 383 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: run fifth inning to take the lead. I know this 384 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter earlier today, but worth just kind of diving 385 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: it for a second. Matt Olsen is essential Matt Olsen again, 386 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: and I think people haven't quite noticed for whatever reason. 387 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: This is a twenty game sample size before today and 388 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: which he also had a hit today and an RBI 389 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: on Sunday, But in the twenty years before that, he 390 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: had a one seventy two WRC, plus he slugged six 391 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred with five home runs and six doubles, which is 392 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: like a you know, forty five home run pace over 393 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: that sample size. I know it's twenty games, but I 394 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: think people just kind of didn't really notice that Matt 395 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: Olsen was kind of Matt Olsen again, and you know, 396 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: he's they. 397 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 3: Have to have that. 398 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: We've all talked about that in the last especially since 399 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: Ronald went down. Ozuna has been the only guy who's 400 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: been lights out but slow start for Matt for sure, 401 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: but he's been himself recently and now they have to 402 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: just kind of hope that Riley and others come back 403 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: to themselves. But I just wanted to at least note 404 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: that because there's been a lot of talk about like 405 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: all the stars are struggling and Maddilson's not struggling, and 406 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: he hasn't been for about a month. 407 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to see for Matt. And let's hope 408 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: that as Riley distances himself from the side injury, he's 409 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: going to go on one of his tears. Really the 410 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: last two seasons he has started out pretty slowly, he 411 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: being Riley, and then he's just gone nuclear in the 412 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: summer months. Let's hope he had a couple of well 413 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: hit balls on Sunday afternoon, just didn't have much to 414 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: show for it, and then you know, just keep going 415 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: down the line if you can get Riley going. Michael 416 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: Harris has shown a little bit of life. Hopefully he's going. 417 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: He presumably is going to be leadoff most nights, based 418 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: on what the Braves did this past week without Akunya, 419 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: He's going to be the primary leadoff guy against right 420 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: handed pitching, which is of course they're going to be 421 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: the case most nights. We talked about Kelnick and Duval 422 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: getting going. Sean Murphy is now back, which is great. 423 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: Maybe Murph can get going. I know he's basically at 424 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: ground zero. I mean, what did he play five innings 425 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: on opening day before he got hurt, and you know, 426 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: he just keep going down the line and let's get 427 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: these guys going. The weather is going to warm up. 428 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: It's just it feels like we've had the same talking 429 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: point for about six weeks now. But there's just too 430 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: much talent and power in this lineup here for it 431 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: to containe. Need to struggle this way. Let's hope that 432 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: better days are coming soon. And if that starts with 433 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: Matt Olson really just getting into one of his grooves, 434 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: all the better. 435 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was ever a you know, no loss 436 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: to Oakland is ever going to be a good loss, 437 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: but the fact the offense did something was almost more 438 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: encouraging than the result itself. On Saturday, speaking of I 439 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: guess you know the tradition there is to Sunday's game 440 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: in which it was kind of going back to what 441 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: happened in May, where the offense was not fantastic, but 442 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: the pitching was really really good. And it was a 443 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: really nice bounce back from Charlie Morton after his really 444 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: really rough start, like his worst start of the year 445 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: by far, in his last outing. He bounces back six 446 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: scorre wass indings, one hit aloud, struck out six. He 447 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: did have some command issues. Like even I, as the 448 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: resident Charlie stan will note that he was not exactly 449 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: hitting his spots on Sunday, but it worked and he 450 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, did his job and more obviously 451 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: leaving the game with a one nothing lead. They gave 452 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: it back after that, but then, hey, the Braves had 453 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: a couple of well timed, well placed hits and the 454 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Murphy RBI double was probably the best example of that, 455 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: where it was like in a perfect spot. It wasn't 456 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: exactly roped, but it worked and they could have had 457 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: it on later on, let's say, but I just wanted to, 458 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, sort of stay on brand here, Scott, you're back, 459 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: It's Sunday, and I stay Charlie Morton, who did my job. 460 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie, especially early on, really had it going and 461 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: it felt like he lost his command a little bit. 462 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: He hit. I know. 463 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: Steven made a great point about how if if you 464 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: took a drink every time Charlie hit a left handed 465 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: batter with a backfoot curveball, you would be you'd have 466 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: a moderate drinking problem. 467 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, did you see the stats. Somebody had a 468 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: stat today. I can't look at it and I'll try 469 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: to find out the actual career. I believe he is 470 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: top ten in the history of baseball now and hit 471 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: my pitch like that's an insane number. I know he's 472 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: forty years old, but the history of baseball Scott is 473 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: fairly long. I'm not sure if you knew that. 474 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: Yes, if you were top ten in quite literally anything 475 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: counting SATs. 476 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: Counting stats, especially like it's hard to be thought any 477 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: baseball counting stat. 478 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he has the huge curveball. He has the fastball, 479 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: which moves quite a bit as well. So congrats to 480 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: Charlie for getting in the top ten in major League 481 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: baseball history. Yeah, you know, Chuck again, he's maybe not 482 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: an ace at this point in his career, but he 483 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: was perfectly fine, especially the way that Max and Sale 484 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: and Ronaldo have been throwing. You know, if he's the 485 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: number four right now, you take it. You mentioned the 486 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: five walks was a little bit of a wild ride, 487 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: but got a lot of contact on the ground, which 488 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: helps negate that a little bit. And then yeah, the 489 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: eighth inning rally especially felt really good. We know the 490 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: Braves have been barreling the baseball for weeks with very 491 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: little to show for it. They've been hitting the ball 492 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: harder than basically anybody in the league. So when you 493 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: get a couple of bloops to nowhere to win the game, 494 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: it feels especially good you take the wins however you 495 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: can get him, especially whenever you've been in this funk 496 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: now for five or six weeks. 497 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: I have a question for you about late in the 498 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Now it didn't matter, the Braves won 499 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: the game, and it could have added on to their 500 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: lead within some insurance two different times. The first time, 501 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: can't wait do anything about that. Rcia had a pretty 502 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: rough plate appearance in a big spot with one out, 503 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: and then in the eighth inning he came up again, 504 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: and it felt like, and this is not revisionists, a 505 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: lot of people, including me and I think Steven and 506 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: others were kind of wondering aloud if Snip might pinch 507 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: hit for Lando Arcia, which might seem weird for a 508 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: team that doesn't have huge depth. They did have Zach 509 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: Short behind him to come in to play shortstop. Short 510 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: on shortstop, uhuh. But the reason I came up was 511 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: not just because of the spot and look, it was 512 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: a prime high leverage plate appearance, but Orlando has been 513 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: really bad for a while now, not only for the 514 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: full season. He has a seventy to one dow RC plus, 515 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: which is obviously really brutal, but his ops is in 516 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: like the load to mid four hundreds for about the 517 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: last three or four weeks. Like that's really really tough. 518 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: I guess the bigger question is not whether you would 519 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: hit it, whether you would have hit for him or not, 520 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: which is certainly something you can answer, But like, are 521 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: you worried about rc is bat because you know, the 522 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: Braves seemingly just want him to catch the ball, and 523 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: I understand that. And for a while he was batting 524 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: sixth to the mania of people like me. You just 525 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: could understand that. Now he's hitting knife again, which is 526 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: where he probably should be thinking. But uh, are you worried, 527 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: because you know, there is a level of which it 528 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: gets to be a little bit troubling. If he's playing 529 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: good defense, he's got to hit a little bit. Yeah, 530 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: it's tough. 531 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: I really like Orlando. 532 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: He seems like a great dude. 533 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: I mean, every day there's a clip of him in 534 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: the in the in the dugout messing around with somebody 535 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: and it's like laugh out loud yea good vibes guy 536 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: for sure, and defensively just phenomenal defensively, I mean really 537 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: really good defensive shortstop. But his at bats are genuinely 538 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: tough to watch. 539 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: The one the seventh today was just yeah, yeah. 540 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like a low minor league player 541 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: trying to, you know, hit a major league slider for 542 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: the first time. Is bluntly, I think what it kind 543 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: of reminds me of. It's just overmatched offensively. You know, 544 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: last season he got off to a really nice start 545 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: offensively and then was pretty bad in the second half 546 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, and that, of course has continued 547 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four. I'm glad that. I mean, he 548 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: should not be batting anywhere else other than ninth. I 549 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: really don't care who else is in one through eight 550 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: that day. Arcia has to be hitting ninth right now. 551 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: I think the Braves have because of the injuries, they 552 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: have a starting pitching issue. They could use another outfielder, 553 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: I think. I think in a perfect world, I think 554 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: alex Entthopolis would be looking at possible shortstop options in 555 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: the next two months, not necessarily that he would replace Arcia, 556 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: but at least see what's out there, even if he 557 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: does it quietly and not wanting to upset a guy 558 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: who I'm sure is liked well in the clubhouse. But man, 559 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: I mean offensively, you just kind of have to close 560 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: your eyes up whenever he's up there. In terms of 561 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: pinch hitting for Arcia, Travis Darnault was available. They did 562 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: have Chadwick Trump as well as the third catcher, so 563 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't like you were at risk of that today. 564 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: But Arcia's defense is so good and you already had 565 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: a two to one or three to one lead at 566 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: that point. Maybe you prefer the defense in that kind 567 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: of a situation. But I don't know if anybody has 568 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: a lot of confidence whenever Orlando is at the plate, 569 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: because the at bats and the approach have just been 570 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: really tough to watch. 571 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: You mentioned this the decline last year. I pulled some 572 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: numbers last basically almost a calendar year, you know, from 573 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: late June of last year where his swoon kind of 574 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: began until now. It's almost six hundred play appearances, so 575 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: almost a full season worth of bub at bats for 576 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: for Orlando, and he has a seventy four varsity plus 577 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: so like that's not what you want. He's the Fortunately, 578 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: he's the only guy on the roster, even with the 579 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: slow starts this year, the only guy, only full time 580 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: guy on the roster that is anywhere near that, so 581 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: that you can kind of live with that. It's always 582 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: been a talking point around Arcia is that you can 583 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: have one badhead in the lineup. It's not a big deal, 584 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: but just noting that there was optimism a year ago 585 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: that maybe he had turned the corner a little bit. 586 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: He had basically had his best full season of his 587 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: career the previous season, even though that was basically, you know, 588 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: he was only a league average bat, but that was 589 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a step forward, and then last year in the first 590 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: half he was really really good, and then basically he's 591 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: become the guy he used to be before then, which 592 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: is not what you want. Offensively. I'm glad you brought 593 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: up the depenstive because it is very important, and at 594 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: shortstop it's a lot easier to take the bat basically, 595 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: so we don't have to do the whole thing on 596 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: him every time we talk. But it just it felt 597 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: particularly notable today because he had the two biggest flameouts 598 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: at the plate and again they won again, which made 599 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: it a little bit easier. But anytime you're talking about 600 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: pinch hitting for a guy who's a regular in a 601 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: big spot, and a lot of people were like, man, 602 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: they probably should have done that there. That kind of 603 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: speaks to how bad he has been recent at the plate. 604 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: So hopefully they can find us some equilibrium there when 605 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: it comes to Orlando. But still a win and that 606 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: was nice to see despite the lack of insurance at 607 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: the end. Anything you want to get to like on 608 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: the field, because there's a little bit of like news 609 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: and notes, e stuff like aj minu Her is on 610 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: the il right now, they're seemingly optimistic about him. But 611 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: anything that you want to add on about anything you've seen, 612 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: because look, I know you were I know you were 613 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: traveling abroad and we couldn't possibly do everything while you 614 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: were gone. But open floor for you, my friend. Yeah, 615 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean nothing really. 616 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: I think listeners are obviously tuned into the braves. They 617 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: probably have the same frustrations and questions that I do. 618 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: You know, we did see Dylan Lee and in the 619 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: seventh inning, and Dylan Lee has been perfectly fine, but 620 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: you do feel the impact whenever Aj Mintor is not 621 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: around not having him as your top lefty, everybody has 622 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: to slot up or wrong, So you have to hope 623 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: that Aj is buying. A hip issue for a picture 624 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: is always a little concerning just because of the torque 625 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: and and everything that goes into that, but you have 626 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: to hope that Mintor's buying. And and you know, for 627 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: Lee and Aaron Bummer, they're going to be called upon 628 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: for important innings as long as AJ is down, So 629 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be a you know, interesting to see 630 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: how Brian Snicker navigates the left handed situation the next 631 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: couple of weeks as AJ is not available. 632 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: The troubling thing there is that it was clearly bothering 633 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: him before he went on the ail, which everybody's kind 634 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: of admitted now, kind of a one of those things 635 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: that bugs me by the way that sometimes the briand 636 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: tandle things. But it does seem like they might like 637 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: he might be back as Susie's eligible to be back, 638 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see if that actually he takes place, but 639 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a big loss for sure. Elsewhere on the 640 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: major league roster, front Trump was optioned after the game 641 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday, they did not announce who's gonna come up. 642 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: They have it off day on Monday. I know this 643 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: is something we talked about for years. I mentioned it 644 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: earlier this week even, but there's just not really a 645 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: reason to carry a third catcher in the DH world 646 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: a special I guess the theory would be that Snid 647 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: is so averse to ever pinch hitting his second catcher 648 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: that you want to just kind of snitproof the roster. 649 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: But he didn't even do that. So maybe maybe with 650 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: a final start, I have this theory that Alex decided 651 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: to option Trump as soon as Orlando hit the batter's 652 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: box today. I'm kidding, but I'm not. 653 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: It sometimes does feel like that. Yeah, you know, with Trump, 654 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: the I like that they can kept Chadwick up because 655 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: it freed up Travis or Murphy to be that pinch hitter, 656 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: presumably for if Jared Kelnick was out there and facing 657 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: a lefty, you could bring Darnault in. If Orlando Orcia 658 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: was in a big spot, especially if you were trailing 659 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: and you didn't care about the defense as much, you 660 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: could pinch hit Travis. But there's also not like a 661 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: massive gap offensively between those three players. So yeah, I'm 662 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: curious to see who they bring up. There's just kind 663 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: of this carousel right now of bench options for the Braves, 664 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: which we expected. I mean that that's the case for 665 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: a lot of teams. But yeah, I do like Chadwick. 666 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: Trump seems like a good dude. 667 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: I know. 668 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: The pitchers, especially Chris Sale. I mean, Chris Sale is 669 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: a guy who's been around the game and has thrown 670 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: to a lot of catchers. When Chris Sale goes out 671 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: of his way to praise a catcher, I think it's 672 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: pretty noteworthy. And he talked about Chadwick's work both in 673 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: game and before the game. With this prep and everything, 674 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: I am sure we will see him again at some point. 675 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: And you know again, I think in a perfect world, 676 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: whoever they do decide to bring up for Tuesday's game 677 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: in Boston probably not going to see the field the 678 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: whole bunch, but takes his an injury and suddenly you're 679 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: thrown into the mix. 680 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: That is the argument for keeping Trump. I mean, in 681 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: an optimal world, I would not have three catchers. I 682 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: will preface that. I've said that many times. But when 683 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: you if you're Alex and you know your manager and 684 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: you know Snid is terrified for whatever reason to have 685 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: an injury to a catcher and be out without a catcher. 686 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, it probably happens once every decade, but he's 687 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: he just lives in fear of that. There's an argument 688 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: for that twenty six rotter spot that basically is almost 689 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: a zero all the time for this team, the way 690 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: they operate. If that's Trump and that allows you quote 691 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: unquote or at least you know permits you and snit's 692 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: mind to use your best pinch hitter every once in 693 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: a while. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. 694 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: So maybe that's why they did it. Also, just to 695 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: say the logical thing out loud, Murphy being hurt for 696 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: as long as he was, there's some insurance there, Like, 697 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason, another reason chop up for 698 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: a little while after Murphy came back, just in case 699 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: he has some flare up or whatever. But now we're 700 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: a week into this, he seems to be just fine 701 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: health wise, and you make the logical move. But I 702 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Luke Williams if I had to guess. 703 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: But they don't really have a guy that's exciting. We 704 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: all know that. So that's why it's that's why it's 705 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: at minute thirty plus of the rundown, not earlier in 706 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. It is what it is. Oh one more. 707 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: I guess this is a minor league note. Herson Waldrop 708 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: is now in Gwinnette and he had a big game today. 709 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: He struck out of eleven, which is I believe is 710 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: a career high for him in the minor or something 711 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: like that. He was awesome Missippi. Seven straight starts with 712 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: two runs are fewer to close out his double a time. 713 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Scott and I will always acknowledge we're not the biggest 714 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: minor league gas in the world. But I talked to 715 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Garrett Spain on the show about Waldrop and others only 716 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: about you know, we can half two weeks ago at 717 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: this point, and Waldrop is the guy if you pulled 718 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Braves fans, whether they're actually engaged in the minor leagues 719 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: or not, he's the one guy that almost all the 720 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: fans can name and nope, because he's a first round 721 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: pick and he's very exciting, so people have an eye 722 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: on him. Know there was a reaction when he was 723 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: not the guy they called up last week, but you know, 724 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: just keeping it on him, and I know he made 725 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: it to Guenett last year very briefly, but this is 726 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: like a real trip to Genette, like he's going to 727 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: be there for a while. 728 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: It seems yeah, And I'm you know, I think the 729 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: Braves are going to have a real decision to make 730 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: because in a perfect world, Hurston Waldrip is going to 731 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: get months to continue developing in Gwinnett, but circumstance may 732 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: not allow for that. 733 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: They might have to. 734 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 2: Call him up at some point to start. We know 735 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: what the carousel has been like for that fifth starter job, 736 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: but I mean eleven strikeouts against a pretty good lineup 737 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon. That split finger is nasty. There's some 738 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: video of him today. I mean, just so many swing 739 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: and miss guys just flailing at the pitch without really 740 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: any kind of a chance. It sounds like his fastball 741 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: and his breaking pitches still have some ways to go, 742 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: and that's why I think in a perfect world you'd 743 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: allow him to continue developing in the minor leagues. But 744 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: we also know that the Braves are going to push 745 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: their players whenever they feel like they're ready. You know, 746 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: it's been a crazy run for Waldrop, who this time 747 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: a year ago was pitching in the College World Series 748 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: for Florida, and here he is now right on the 749 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: doorstep and in Gwinette for the Braves. Let me let 750 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: me ask you, brad over under July thirty first, for 751 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 2: Hurston Waldrip's first major league start. 752 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I think I will take over slash after, but I 753 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: would not be surprised if I'm wrong, only because you know, again, 754 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: the minor league guys know this stuff more than I do. 755 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: They seem to think that the Braves just want in 756 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: an ideal warter, even close to that, a little bit 757 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: more seasoning for Waldrop, Like you know, they want to 758 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Schwellenbach and a lot of the fans were like, who's that? 759 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: And I get that, but like, you know, the more 760 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: polished option. And no one's arguing that waldrop ceiling isn't higher, 761 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: because it is. But I think that they are. They've 762 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: seemingly tried not to do it so far, but you 763 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: know as well as I do, if they if Schwellenbox 764 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: struggles this week and you get another whatever at some point, 765 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: if you know something, if you're down ten in the division, 766 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff too can into your mindset. So 767 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: I think the Braves have shown they're willing to be 768 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: patient with Waldrop. And part of that's because they kind 769 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: of need to be, because you know, the minor league 770 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: guys that we that I trust I'll speak to myself, 771 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: love the stuff. But they all are kind of like, hey, 772 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: he's not quite ready yet. And and I get it 773 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: because you know, like you just said, he he's a 774 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: year away from being in college. Like this is not 775 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: a it's not surprising that he's not been up yet. 776 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: But so I'll take the over. Maybe it's September, but 777 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: it would not shock me if it was in the month. 778 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point soon, let's say, he'll be there. 779 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: I would assume they will continue to start him, although 780 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: you know he always has the bullpen as a fallback 781 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: option with his fastball and that split finger especially, I 782 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: mean that splitter is going to give him a career 783 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: as a reliever for a long time, just a matter 784 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: if he can keep improving that fastball, and I believe 785 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: he throws a slider as well, just to keep hitters. 786 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: Honest. 787 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's Waldrop has legitimate mid to top of 788 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: the rotation upside. From everything I've seen and read and heard, 789 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 2: I think the Braves are smart and just not over 790 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,240 Speaker 2: pushing him. You don't want to rush a picture and 791 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 2: cause him to not develop the way that he can 792 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: to his full potential. So very excited for Waldrip in Gwinett. 793 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: It's going to be appointment viewing every five days there. 794 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: And I am sure at some point we will all 795 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: get our first glimpse of him in Atlanta. Whether it's 796 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: in a month or two or three, yes, absolutely. And 797 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: before we got here, a brief look ahead at the 798 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: week to come. The Braves are off on Monday. That 799 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: is their first game without it with the first day 800 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: without a game I should say since May eighteenth, and 801 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: get that actual day was a rainout, so they have 802 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 2: not had a scheduled off day and quite some time 803 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: after having a bunch of them. 804 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: Early in the year. And then they begin a three 805 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: city road trip. First a quick two game trip to 806 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Boston in a rematch of about you know what a 807 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: month ago now at this point, and then they go 808 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: to Washington for a quick rematch after they lose three 809 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: or four to the Nets this week. Other than the 810 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: normal previews stuff, I think the biggest talking point is 811 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: that Schwellenbo's gonna get another start on Wednesday. Snid was 812 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: pretty he didn't say that definitively, but he was pretty 813 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: I think you kind of like overshared maybe a little 814 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: bit to say he was gonna stay up, and that 815 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: ended up happening. He's now on the probables list. I 816 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: thought he looked pretty good in his first start. The 817 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: end did not go very well, but as far as 818 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: debuts go, I thought he looked like a major leg starter. 819 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: That's good to see. But we will see another run there. 820 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: Also on the road. Boss is not a fantastic team, 821 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: but certainly not a terrible one. And I still test 822 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: the Family a park and I'm sure the youngster will 823 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: have some big eyes as he's pitching a family apart 824 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: for the first time. 825 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Boston, their rotation is fantastic. I mean, 826 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: maybe the best pitching team in the American League so 827 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: far in the early going of the season. But offensively 828 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: it's not been great. A note that von Grissom, I 829 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 2: hate to say it, has been one of the worst 830 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: players in Major League Baseball this season. I believe he 831 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: had like a negative war and now he's on the 832 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: injured list again, which is sad for Vaughn. But a 833 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: weird two games then four at the Nationals man the Braves. 834 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: I caught the highlights. I did not. 835 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: Fortunately, I did not have to watch any of the 836 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: full games because of travel and all that against the 837 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: Gnats this past week. But that was about as pathetic 838 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: of a Braves effort that I've seen in years. I mean, 839 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: those were just terrible baseball games. So let's hope they 840 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: kind of wake up a bit. Two games in Boston 841 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 2: is always a fun kind of get the juices flowing, 842 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 2: and then four at Washington. It's a place where I mean, 843 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: if the Braves are going to make a comeback in 844 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: the East, they have to start beating some of these 845 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: bad teams, which is not something they've done necessarily so 846 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 2: far through the first two plus months of the year. 847 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: They have to start beating the Nationals. We talked about, 848 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 2: they went four and six against three pretty bad teams 849 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: over the last ten days. Soupefully, you at least get 850 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: one in Boston, if not two, and then try to 851 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: win the series against Washington. There's just no comparing those 852 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: two rosters. And let's hope for better days because I mean, 853 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: I guess the good news, Brad is you cannot play 854 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: worse than what the Braves played against the Nets this 855 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: past week at Truest. 856 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: Well maybe they could, they could have got swept, I 857 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: guess if you want to roll about it, But no, 858 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: all the way across the board, you know, what's one 859 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: of the ways to make up a deficit. And like 860 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, as we're recording this Philly play tonight, so 861 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: we don't know the deficit exactly as we're talking. As 862 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: we're talking, but it's a sizable one by June standards. 863 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: And the Braves also have to play later on this month. 864 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: The Orioles on the road, they're very good. The Yankees 865 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: on the road, they're very good. So, like, you've got 866 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: to beat the teams that you're better than. And that's 867 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: always the case in baseball, but it's especially the case 868 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: when you're facing a Phillies team and your division that 869 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: is scolding. They've been awesome all year long, and maybe 870 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: they'll cool off. But you know, if you're worried about 871 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: extending the division streak, as people probably still are as 872 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: they should be in June, beating the teams that you 873 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: are clearly better than is part of the ticulust there, 874 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: for sure. That's all we gotta think, Scott. It's nice 875 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: to have you back though. 876 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: Just be back, Brad. I will say it again. You 877 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: and the fellas and all of our guests did a 878 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: fantastic job holding down the fort while I was away. 879 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 2: Very happy to be back. That's hope. Now that May 880 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: is behind us, the Braves have some better days on 881 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 2: the horizon, a nice start to the month. You gotta 882 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: win today to win over the A's, But as you 883 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: just said, there's some tough games on the horizons. Let's 884 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: hope the team wakes up a little bit. God man, 885 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: let's let's get healthy. The injuries this season have been unbelievable. 886 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like the year of the oblique 887 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: is on top of everything else too. 888 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, every other morning, when you open up your app 889 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: or whatever you go to get your news, it feels 890 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: like the Braves are putting somebody new on the injured list. 891 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just unbelievably bad injury luck through the first 892 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: two months of the season. So let's hope that stops. 893 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: They get healthier, they get guys rolling again. I mean 894 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 2: it has to be tough. I mean, obviously you and 895 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: I are not major leaguers, but can you imagine how 896 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: difficult it must be for Sean Murphy to not play 897 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: for two months and then just try to go zero 898 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 2: to one hundred, even after a couple of rehab games 899 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: in the minors like that, hitting a baseball is hard enough. 900 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 2: And then when pitchers have had two months to get 901 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: in their groove and you're just kind of going back 902 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: out there for the first time all regular season. I mean, 903 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: that has to be brutal to try to do as 904 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: a player. So let's hop their better days on the horizon. 905 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: Guys are healthy, Guys stay healthy, and they can pick 906 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 2: up some wins this week, because really, six games against 907 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: the Red Sox and the Nationals are winnable and let's 908 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 2: hope for four or five. 909 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: Yes, we agree on all of that. That's it for us. 910 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: Please subscribe to the Hammer Territory podcast anywhere you might 911 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: find your podcasts, especially places like Apple and Spotify, as 912 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: well as overcast, et cetera. You can follow us on 913 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: Twitter and Hammer Territory. 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