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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a busy offseason here for the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets. Last week, the club announced they completed eight

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Speaker 1: interviews for the defensive coordinator post. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: look at each candidate. Coming up next with Brian Balder.

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Speaker 2: I don't meet anybody in the world, and I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna win next Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Gets wonder.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait, Baldy, you truly are man for all football seasons.

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Speaker 4: Where are you this week?

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Speaker 2: I am presently in Orlando, Florida. I am announcing the

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Speaker 2: All American Bowl, which is on Thursday night on the

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Speaker 2: NFL network at eight o'clock. And so at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, I was in a morning install meeting with

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Speaker 2: Brian Billick, going over yesterday's practice with all the players,

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Speaker 2: with the wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, the whole line.

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Speaker 3: So it was good.

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Speaker 2: So I felt like I was going back in time.

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Speaker 2: And we had a we had about a two and

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Speaker 2: a half hour practice, and then I met a bunch

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Speaker 2: of the kids after practice and uh kind of caught

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Speaker 2: up with them, some of the agents, and so it's just, uh,

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Speaker 2: it's it's basically complete immersion trying to learn like a

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Speaker 2: hundred guys that I knew very little about as much

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Speaker 2: as two days ago.

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Speaker 1: It's really picking up, isn't it as far as draft

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Speaker 1: season is concerned, because it got it's right here.

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Speaker 2: He honestly like, next Today's Tuesday. Next Tuesday, I'll be

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Speaker 2: in mobile, you know, at the Senior Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're kind of and I just remember being there last year.

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Speaker 2: I had done a mobile in a long time. Eya,

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Speaker 2: But uh, I remember last year being there and I

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Speaker 2: saw rabel there, and I saw Chemist to fans, guess

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys there, John Lynch. I knew it

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Speaker 2: was going to be a great crop of defensive alignment.

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Speaker 2: You could tell, Yeah, last year was it was.

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Speaker 3: It was special.

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Speaker 1: Uh, so many things to get to and you just

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Speaker 1: mentioned Mike Rabel and we're gonna get to all the

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Speaker 1: coaching ages.

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Speaker 4: Here in a few moments.

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Speaker 1: Just to that point, though, Aaron Glenn suddenly is the

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Speaker 1: second longest tenured head coach in the AFC East because

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Speaker 1: Frabelle was hired a couple of days before the Jets

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Speaker 1: signed a G.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean nobody knew that this would happen in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have ruled the AFC East outside of

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Speaker 2: this year in New England Miami.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if people thought that was going to happen,

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Speaker 3: but here we are.

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Speaker 2: We got two big openings in the AFC East this year,

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Speaker 2: you know, and everybody now suddenly in a matter of

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Speaker 2: one year, is looking up to the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of openings, the Jets have a defensive coordinator opening.

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Speaker 1: On Friday, the team released that they conducted interviews with

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Speaker 1: eight candidates. Do you want to roll through them or

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Speaker 1: is there something that caught your eye when you saw

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Speaker 1: the initial list.

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Speaker 3: Let's go through the guys.

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Speaker 2: Let's just kind of like everybody has a story and

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Speaker 2: the history, and you know, good and bad in this league,

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Speaker 2: nobody stays on top.

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Speaker 3: But let's just go to the list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it because and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: alphabetical order here, so we're not playing any favoritism.

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Speaker 3: Baldi.

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Speaker 1: All right, PAULI, let's start the list with Matthew or Rojo,

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Speaker 1: who's currently the Miami Dolphins cornerbacks coach. He spent the

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Speaker 1: past four seasons with the Dolphins after starting with seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's just it. I mean, they did make

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Speaker 2: saw them twice this year. I saw him during mini

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Speaker 2: during training camp and I did a show from there

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Speaker 2: and I talked to Mike McDaniel, talked to you know,

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Speaker 2: I think Anthony Weaver. I think a lot of Anthony

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Speaker 2: don't know what the New York Giants gonna do with

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Speaker 2: He drafted by the Ravens, played for the Ravens coach

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about that, So Erojo, he starts our candidates.

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Speaker 1: How about Ephraim bought banda from the Cleveland Browns safety's

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Speaker 1: coach under Jim Schwartz. When you're talking about Cleveland, you're

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got the best defensive player in the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean to start with Miles Garrett. But they drafted

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Speaker 3: I mean they played.

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Speaker 2: Literally they started every game, and Schwartze is like, I'd

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Speaker 3: Honestly, maybe even the Cleveland jobs. He's very good.

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Speaker 2: But I think guys flourished under Jim. First of all,

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Speaker 2: Jim is a very confident guy. He plays a ton

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Speaker 2: of band coverage, press band coverage. You kind of know

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Speaker 2: what Cleveland's gonna do. They're very good at it. I

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Speaker 2: would listen to anybody that's been a protege of Jim Schwartz,

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Speaker 2: because at one time Jim was you know, he was

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Speaker 2: I think I think Schwartzey started with the Baltimore Colts,

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Speaker 3: So I mean he's worked his way up.

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Speaker 2: So I think he understands getting young guys and training

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Speaker 4: Yeah, band is forty four years old.

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Speaker 1: Ball this season, Cleveland ranked number three against the pass,

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Speaker 4: And you said it.

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Speaker 1: It all starts up front and the Browns have one

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Speaker 4: But Schwartz is a proven coordinator and Banda.

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Speaker 1: Has excelled there as a safety's coach the pass three seasons.

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Speaker 1: How about DeMarcus Covington, who spent the past season with

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Speaker 4: He's thirty six years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's been working under Jeff Haffley, who just

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Speaker 2: then went became the head coach of Boston College and

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Speaker 2: if you look at the philosophy, I'm sure he's gonna

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Speaker 2: adopt the philosophy that Jeff Afflee has, which is basically,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna challenge the receivers. We're gonna play

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Speaker 2: of field. We need a free safety who's got ball skills.

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Speaker 2: Like that's kind of how they play. And you look,

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Speaker 2: Covington is a guy that you look at the young

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Speaker 2: and how Evan Williams, how that guy has factored in

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Speaker 2: what I what I see from from Covington from defly

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Speaker 4: And other things. You're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interject there, but listen, Covington is a

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Speaker 1: guy who's getting multiple interviews right now. As far as

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator position throughout the league, how about Chris Harris.

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Speaker 1: We know he started out this year's defensive backs coach

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Speaker 1: and he was one of the eight good good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that he's got a good resume

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Speaker 2: and you know you've got to. I mean, this this

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Speaker 3: And so how you're.

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Speaker 2: Coaching this up right now and the techniques you're coaching with,

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Speaker 2: you better be very sounded what you're doing, otherwise you're

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Speaker 1: I will also say not really a complete fair assessment

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Speaker 1: of what Harris can do at the coordinator level, because

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Speaker 1: he's taken over with three games left in season, Jets

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the best announcer in the world would

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Speaker 1: How about Torontae Jones, forty seven years old. He just

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Speaker 1: completed a fifth season with the Minnesota Vikings as defensive

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Speaker 1: under guys like Brian Flores and Mike Zimmer. Of course,

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Speaker 1: number three overall and tied for tenth and takeaways.

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Speaker 3: Well, the year four they led the league in takeaways.

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Speaker 3: You know, they were number one.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at what they do, I mean anybody,

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Speaker 3: What Brian Flores is doing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's got a package of that. But Brian Flores started

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Speaker 2: it in Miami where you give him a blitz zero

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Speaker 2: and who's dropping, and you know what does our protection

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Speaker 3: Chances for interceptions.

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Speaker 1: I think most of the Jets nation has circled this

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Speaker 4: That's Jim Ladderd. He's forty three years old. He's currently in.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting Bart Scott, I'm getting Jimmy Letard.

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Speaker 2: when you have players like that, you have to let them,

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Speaker 2: You know, that's what Troy Palomalo did, and they had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he always struck me as a coach on the field.

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Speaker 3: He said he was going to give Aaron Rodgers a

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Speaker 2: And Wink challenged him and he said, if you're not

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Speaker 2: If I have a question about any first fall, any

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Speaker 2: That guy is a born defensive coordinator. He is literally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that four time defensive coordinator in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Yes they are, and he's going to break your protection

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Speaker 1: How about Jimmy O'Neill. I mentioned him with Cleveland in

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Speaker 2: I'd be look, I think a similar role with the Yets.

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Speaker 2: and you know, just another a guy that you can

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Speaker 1: He said going into this that when it comes to coaches,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's right. I mean, Aaron's right about that.

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Speaker 3: Now, and I was.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to compare, you know, the next

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Speaker 2: very well. I mean there's Leonard Williams, you know, like

442
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: all pro Leonard Williams, you know, like they're was. But

443
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: what I'm getting that EA is like you see John

444
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: frankn Myers starting for the Denver Broncos, Leonard Williams all

445
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: pro with Seattle. They've all come through the New York Jets.

446
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: But everything was in flux. It was no stability at

447
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: any point between general manager coach, you know, and so

448
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: do you pay these guys? With all this stuff that happened.

449
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: But when you get the right guys, they don't want

450
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: to leave and you don't want them to leave, and

451
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 2: you start building that synergy that Aaron's talking about with coaches.

452
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Speaker 3: But it permeates through the whole thing, through the whole organization.

453
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: You can feel that the secretary's feeling. They know it.

454
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Speaker 2: They like practice is not like winning helps ea, don't

455
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: get Don't get me wrong, you win like Seattle's winning.

456
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Speaker 2: But they won ten games last year and here are

457
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 2: they are in the AFC Championship Game. It took them

458
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: a half a year to figure out Mike McDonald's defense,

459
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: which is complex. Well, when you see it, when you

460
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: see it working right now, there's a reason why he

461
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: was the number one defense in Baltimore. The reason why

462
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: he's the number one defense in Seattle. There's a reason

463
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Speaker 2: why they fired John Harball in Baltimore. They had the

464
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 2: best defense they had the league's MVP, and they couldn't

465
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Speaker 2: get over the hump, like wherever Mike McDonald.

466
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Speaker 3: Goes like you're seeing, but you're seeing that feeling that

467
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: they love playing in that scheme.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that that assessment there. You gotta

469
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: love it and it has to be personal. And that's

470
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Speaker 1: the thing that happens with the great defense is that

471
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much money the guy next to

472
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Speaker 1: you makes, is that you're all playing together, you all

473
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Speaker 1: have a role, and you're defending every blade of grass.

474
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Speaker 1: That's the common trait of great defenses is that they

475
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Speaker 1: want to be bad asses. They want to be known

476
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Speaker 1: as an elite unit that doesn't give up anything, and

477
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Speaker 1: when they do, they're pissed off about it.

478
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I think like San Francisco just played

479
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: him twice in the last three weeks. They score a touchdown,

480
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: he scored. You know, the quarterback was heating up every

481
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: team he played against. Couldn't score touchdown against Seattle like

482
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: it was personal. Like they're not getting like Christian McCaffrey,

483
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: he's not getting crossing the goal.

484
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 3: Line like it was personal.

485
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: But when I saw the when I was around those guys,

486
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. There's something about pregame warm up.

487
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: The whole team is out there together, the whole team.

488
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: You know, nobody's in the locker room. The linemen are

489
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: out there, they're working on their sets, defensive linemen are

490
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: working on their pass rush. Like everybody's working and you

491
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: can kind of you can kind of feel like they

492
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: it's just all right, let's like game days. This is

493
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Speaker 2: where we get to really like take our test and

494
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: really see what we've learned this week.

495
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Speaker 1: All right, things move quickly in the NFL, and nobody

496
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: knows that better than you. Right now, at the time

497
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: of taping, it's Tuesday afternoon, there are six openings I

498
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about. Okay, so the Bills have

499
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: the opening, Baltimore's out there, the Lost Vegas Raiders, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,

500
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: and Arizona. How could potentially some of those openings in

501
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: the dominoes impact the Jets in this current search for

502
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator.

503
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there might be a drain of coaches

504
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: from other organizations, like you know, Mike McDaniel, who the

505
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: Jets have had a hard time beating.

506
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 3: Let's face it, you know, Mike is gonna be gone.

507
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: He's gone.

508
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Now, Anthony Weaver might go like, you're gonna get a

509
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: drain of, you know, from from Miami. You're gonna get

510
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: a drain from Buffalo. You know, two teams that you're

511
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: competing against right now. Like, I don't know who's gonna

512
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: stay If Joe Brady gets elevated in Buffalo, Brian Dable

513
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: goes up there and who he brings, but.

514
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: They're gonna lose.

515
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: No coaches that have had you know, good success against

516
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: the Jets, for the most part, are gonna be gone.

517
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: That affects the Jets right away. There's only the coaches

518
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: are gonna get hired six guys, six more. But what

519
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: coaches are taking with him? Yeah, and that's really because

520
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: the stronger the staff. I mean, there's John Benton, you know,

521
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: coaching the offense line up in Seattle, Like John was there.

522
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, you guys had him, you know. I mean,

523
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: so there's a carousel of but you need a good staff.

524
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: You know, La Floor is probably gonna be a coordinator someplace.

525
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: He was calling plays for you know, you know a

526
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: couple of years ago in New York.

527
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: All right, so you've been doing the College All Star circuit.

528
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you quickly about the draft. Early thoughts,

529
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have time to talk about this, but

530
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: just real early thoughts. It's late January. Fernando Mendoza, do

531
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Speaker 1: you view this as being done, that he's going to

532
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Speaker 1: be the number one overall selection to the Raiders.

533
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Speaker 3: No.

534
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's sixteen to Ohero and he had,

535
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, a miraculous season. I don't think it's Joe Burrow.

536
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's Joe Burrow. But that's what

537
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: Joe did. Joe went undefeated at LSU, won a championship,

538
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: and he was a number one pick, and it was unanimous,

539
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: and Joe Brady was you know, when Joe Brady came,

540
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: everything changed for him. So he was able to flourish

541
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: in a system where get five guys out, let me

542
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: read the defense. I'm gonna find the opening guy that fast.

543
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Fernando Mendoza doesn't colony plays. He looks

544
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: the sideline. He doesn't call any checks like, he looks

545
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: the sideline for what the play is. He's in shotgown,

546
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: he's not under center. Like there's certain things that they're

547
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: not flags because you can still change in alt. Cam

548
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: Ward win under center this year in Tennessee played pretty good.

549
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: It all could change. But you know, this process, even

550
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: when Cam Newton was the first player drafted in twenty eleven.

551
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Cam Newton went through these car washes and

552
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: everybody was trying.

553
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: To rip him apart. One year player at Auburn, all

554
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: this stuff. So they're gonna try to do the same thing.

555
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: He might end up being it because it might be

556
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: a he might be that good and be it could

557
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: be the position of need for quite a few teams

558
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: at the top of the draft.

559
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's you now. I'm right now

560
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: that he's the number one player.

561
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just want to here. We know the

562
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: Jets have a lot of draft capital.

563
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: They have four picks in the top forty four, number

564
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Speaker 1: two overall, number sixteen there in the first round. They

565
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: have more than ninety million dollars in cap space. Obviously

566
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: a lot of holes with this roster. We're going to

567
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: find out where they're going with the coaching staff. But

568
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: when number two overall, do you have any comments on

569
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: any of these guys. I'm not asking you where you

570
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: think the Jets are going just to feel for a

571
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: few of these players, whether it be Arvel Reese, the

572
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: linebacker from Ohio State, or his college teammate Caleb Downs,

573
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: a very impressive safety, or Jeremiah Love, who is outstanding

574
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: running back for Notre Dame. We hear a lot about

575
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: the impressive edge from Texas Tech David Bailey. And then

576
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position, you got Jordan Tyson out

577
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: of Arizona State, Carnal Tate out of Ohio State. Man.

578
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: Ohio State is always loaded there in the first round.

579
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: And then we saw last night and other guy is

580
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a top five selection or top seven selection,

581
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Ruben Bain from Miami.

582
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

583
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know Ruben Bain is being coached by Jason Taylor.

584
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: You know he's a defensive line coach of Miami. So

585
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: I watched him. I went down to watch Mario Chris

586
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Ball's team practice in the spring. I haven't seen a

587
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: practice like that in football at any level in fifteen years.

588
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: Like it was three hours contact. Every single drill minded

589
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: me of me playing with the Cowboys in the eighties.

590
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: You know that Ruben Bain has been coached great and

591
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: nothing has been given to him.

592
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: David Bailey.

593
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: I saw him play, met him this year at Texas Tech,

594
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: did one of his games. I just heard a story

595
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: about David Bailey today. You know, they paid him four

596
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: million dollars to go there to play. He lived across

597
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: the street in a one bedroom apartment and drove the

598
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: car that he drove in high school. He has spent

599
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: one dime of that nil money on anything he was.

600
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: He literally bought the apartment across the street so he

601
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: could just go that close to go to the film

602
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: room and study and train. So sometimes, you know, you

603
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: get to know these guys and then all of a sudden, Okay,

604
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: he's he's this guy, he's this caliber player, but he's

605
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: this caliber person.

606
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: The game of football is puts them even up here.

607
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: So those guys are there. This is a great draft

608
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: for offensive tackles, not a position to need for the Eagles,

609
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: for the for the Jets. It is for the Eagles.

610
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: But uh, but I do think that this draft we're

611
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna see it at the Senior Bowl next week.

612
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna be a good draft for

613
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: defensive linemen. And I don't think you can waste picks

614
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: on good defensive Linemen mhm, yeah.

615
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.

616
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Listen, you mentioned Bailey. That was a great story. And

617
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I love Baines motor man. He just he He's not

618
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world in terms of what

619
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: he's bringing from the edge position, but he plays like

620
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: he's the monster.

621
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Speaker 3: You know he does.

622
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: But you know, the good thing about bain is this,

623
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: you want to find out what he's like, you just

624
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: spend thirty minutes with them at the combine or you know,

625
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: bring him in for private workout whatever. But I think

626
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: if you've talked to Jason Taylor or Mario Christobal, they're

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: gonna just shoot you straight. You know, is he late

628
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: for meeting or has he never been late for meeting?

629
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna be able to They've got two

630
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: guys that you can trust that when they look in

631
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: the eye and they tell Aaron or Moujie or whoever,

632
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: like this is what you're getting, like you can you

633
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: can rest.

634
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: Assured that they're gonna shoot you straight.

635
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: And final thought here, we know Dante Moore is going

636
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: back to Oregon. We saw Ty Simpson early in the season.

637
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: He played really well with Alabama. I like the way

638
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: he maneuvered the pocket. I thought he was quite accurate.

639
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: He was dealing with injuries down the stretch. You get

640
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: an initial feel on him as the draft process really

641
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: starts to heat up, like like you just talked about.

642
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he did tail off as the season

643
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: went on, No question, he tailed off a little bit,

644
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, we got to find that out.

645
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: I haven't studied close enough. Look, the fight is going

646
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: to be for Fernando. I mean it just is.

647
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: And the Jets need a proven, starting quality quarterback the

648
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: way Josh Allen, the way the guys are in this

649
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: league that they can just elevate the program. I remember

650
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: meeting Drake May at a high school football camp quarterback

651
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: collective when Jaydeen Daniels and Caleb Williams all came out

652
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: and I sat with those three guys and others, Garrett Nusemayer.

653
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: I sat in a film room with these guys and

654
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: put on Mahomes tape and put on different defenses and

655
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: had those guys break the defenses down. How to attack them?

656
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: What's the route combination? What are you looking at here?

657
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: What do you do with against the black? I mean,

658
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Speaker 2: these kids they're so rare eddy for today's game, honestly,

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Speaker 2: like Drake May, I could show that film of you

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Speaker 2: right now with Drake May and you feel like you're

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Speaker 2: talking to the same kid today, like mature, smart, poised.

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00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: Same thing with Jayden Caleb especially, like he like it

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Speaker 2: was nothing to him to figure any of this stuff out.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's what they I mean, just mentioned three guys,

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Speaker 3: but that's what you have to draft. They cannot They

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Speaker 3: have to get this right and they know it.

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Speaker 1: Nussmeyer is a guy who had a lot of hype

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Speaker 1: coming into this season for whatever reason. There's multiple when

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Speaker 1: you look at that LSU offense. He didn't have the

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Speaker 1: success a lot of people anticipated. That doesn't mean he

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Speaker 1: couldn't have a great draft pre draft season, I should say,

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Speaker 1: and really improve his stock. Uh. Caleb Williams the fourth

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Speaker 1: down throw, the touchdown pass. Where does that rank all time?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's different than any hail Mary pass because it's

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Speaker 2: not to hail Mary where he's just like he's actually

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Speaker 2: trying to avoid the rush because the hail Mary passes

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Speaker 2: you rarely get a four man rush. You know, the

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Speaker 2: way he had Kobe Turner coming at him, Jared Verse

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Speaker 2: like they're all you know, Isaiah Stewart like they're all

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Speaker 2: coming after him, and he set his back foot at

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Speaker 2: the forty yard line and launched it over the head

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Speaker 2: of Kobe Durant into the weighting arms of Cole Comet.

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Speaker 2: It's it's as good a throw. You know, you didn't

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Speaker 2: win the games, so it can't be at the best,

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Speaker 2: but it's his good to throw in a playoff game

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Speaker 2: in that spot that we've ever seen. Yeah, well four

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Speaker 2: is fourth down, you know it's fourth down tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it left me in disbelief.

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Speaker 1: I just saw him retreating and retreating and that's one

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Speaker 1: thing going back and another one heaving it up.

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Speaker 2: But the way he was but like even to locate

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Speaker 2: cole Comet, like to even see him under that duress

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Speaker 2: when and you know, of course he didn't see the

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Speaker 2: completion because he's he's on his back, but like he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get blasted by Jared Vers and Isaiah Stewart and

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Speaker 2: Kobe Turner together and he was locate Cole Kamet forty

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Speaker 2: five yards down the field is amazing all by itself.

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Speaker 3: And then to have the arm strength to get it

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Speaker 3: there the way it did.

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Speaker 1: Well, Baldy, this is falling on his always buddy, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the All Star circuit, and I know we'll probably the

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Speaker 1: next time we'll be touching bases when you're in mobile

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Speaker 1: or maybe following the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. I look forward to it. YEA. Let's uh,

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Speaker 3: let's get this thing back on track. Man. Let's let's

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Speaker 3: build this thing up the right way right now, honestly,

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Speaker 3: m hm