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Friedrich Joergensen 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: did not believe in ghosts, at least not in the 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: traditional sense of something that had once lived, somehow remaining 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: after death, much less that the debt could talk. He 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: did not follow any religion or pin his mask to 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: any one political party, and neither did he believe in 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: an interventionist god. He had seen too much for that. 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Jurgensen was born in Odessa in February nineteen oh three, 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: then a major city of the Russian Empire and soon 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: to be cradle of revolution. Though his family lived a 19 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: relatively charmed life by comparison to many of its citizens, 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: his formative years were nonetheless surrounded by misery, as he 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: once put it, and it certainly wasn't lacking in drama. 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: By the time he was forty years old, Jurgenson will 23 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: have fled from Bolshevik revolutionaries to Estonia, before later moving 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to Berlin to train as an opera singer under the 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: great Italian tenor Tito's Skeeper. After a period of almost 26 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: unrivaled sexual and creative freedom in the city, he will 27 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: later watch in horror as a new Puritanism takes hold, 28 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: while those not blessed with the privilege of being able 29 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to work in the arts, struggling under crippling poverty and unemployment, 30 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: are drawn ever closer to the rising tide of fascism. 31 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Its subsequent fanning of a growing antisemitism leaves the Jewish 32 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: skeeper no option but to escape to Palestine, where Friedrich 33 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: will join him for eight years, swapping one war zone 34 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: for another. Returning to Europe in nineteen thirty eight, Fredrick, 35 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: now a successful opera singer in his own right, makes 36 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: plans to continue his career in Italy. However, after visiting 37 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: his parents in Estonia, the cold climate plays havoc with 38 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: his health and his voice, eventually forcing him to give 39 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: up his singing dream. He returns to Italy soon after 40 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: with the tension of becoming a professional painter, only to 41 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: find war waiting for him once again. Unwilling to fight 42 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: for a fascist cause and having no distinct nationality of 43 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: his own to defend, Friedrich, whose mother was Swedish, flees 44 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: to her home country. By the end of the Second 45 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: World War in nineteen forty five, Jurgenson, who by now 46 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: speaks ten different languages, is forty two years old, married, 47 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: and finally ready to settle down. Incredibly, despite all that 48 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: he has seen and experienced, the most extraordinary moment of 49 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: his life still awaits. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm 50 00:03:50,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Richard McClean smith. It is thirteen years later, and a 51 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: now fifty five year old Friedrich has established himself as 52 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: a talented portraitist and archeological painter, admired even by the Pope. 53 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: At some point in nineteen fifty seven, having spent many 54 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: years working at the ruined Roman city of Pompeii, he 55 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: accepts an invitation to hold an exhibition in its grounds. 56 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: The magic of the place had infatuated him since he 57 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: was a child, how it had once been forgotten, buried 58 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: under fire and ash, only to be unearthed by chance 59 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and rescued from its violent end to stand once more 60 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: as a testament to civilization. The offer was made even 61 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: more appealing when he was given the opportunity to work 62 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: on site, establishing a studio in the House of the 63 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Tragic Poet, one of the more well preserved buildings, elaborately 64 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: decorated throughout exquisite mosaics depicting scenes from Greek mythology. But 65 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: best of all was being granted a key to the city. 66 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: As dusk settled over the ruins, long after everyone else 67 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: had left, Friedrich would be free to wander the deserted 68 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: homes and streets alone in the eerie silence. The quieter 69 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: it was, the more fiercely he felt the ghosts fighting 70 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: to emerge from the shadows. As he walked, he let 71 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: his imagination drift. From a street corner, an exuberant shopkeeper emerges, 72 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: measuring grain for his customers. Over there, a horse and 73 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: cart trundles by, as rogued dignitaries saunter behind, while the 74 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: sound of children playing echoes through the streets, and if 75 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: he listens carefully enough from a distance, the fleeting roar 76 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: of a crowd packed into the city's amphitheater is carried 77 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: on the wind and sometimes the imagining of the sudden explosion, 78 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: followed by a growing plume of ash, the darkening of 79 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: the sky, and the billowing cloud of boiling heat speeding 80 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: down the mountainside as the screams grow louder and louder. 81 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Soon summer is approaching and Frederick's exhibition is coming to 82 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: its end. As a final thank you for his work, 83 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: he has offered the chance to fulfill a lifetime's ambition 84 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: when the Pompey Archeological Commission invites him to take part 85 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in an excavation of a newly discovered property the following year. 86 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: He gladly accepts the offer and returns to Stockholm soon 87 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: after to begin putting together his plans for his next visit. 88 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Little did he know, then, however, that he would not 89 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: be turning to Pompeii anytime soon, for something was about 90 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: to occur that would change his life and understanding of 91 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: it forever. In June nineteen fifty eight, Friedrich and his 92 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: wife Monica traveled to their country house just south of Mernenbou, 93 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: a small village located sixty kilometers southwest of the capitol, Stockholm. 94 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: The property, which backed onto a placid and tranquil lake, 95 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: was as idyllic a country retreat as one could imagine. 96 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Aside from the main house, the property consisted of an old, 97 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: dilapidated hut by the water's edge, as well as a 98 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: guest house on the fringes of a nearby forest bordering 99 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the garden. Itself an enchanting mess of wild flowers and 100 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: apple blossom, it was the perfect place to capture the 101 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: sound of singing birds, as Friedrich had long planned to do, 102 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: but never quite had the time. This year, he determined 103 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: to do it once and for all, making sure to 104 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: bring his tape recorder down from Stockholm. After spending the 105 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: day by the lake, it was sometime in the afternoon, 106 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: with the local birds in full voice, that Fredrick retired 107 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: to the house to collect the tape recorder, before making 108 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: his way out to the forest cabin and up into 109 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: its attic. Moments later, having rigged up a microphone, he 110 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: slid open the window and pointed the microphone out of 111 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it just as a gentle finch came to rest on 112 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the roof, flicking the switch to record. Fredrick sat back 113 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: in his chair and listened to the birds sing as 114 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the tape slowly unspoiled from one reel to the other. 115 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: After a few minutes, with the bird having taken off, 116 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Fredrick stopped the recording and rewound the tape. He pressed 117 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: play and waited eagerly to hear what he had captured. 118 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: But something was wrong. Though he could just about make 119 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: out the merry chirping of the finch, it was completely 120 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: drowned out by a blaring burst of static, as if 121 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: someone had been taking a shower right next to the microphone. 122 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Friederich made a quick check of all the connections and 123 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: spun the tape forward to see if something was wrong 124 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: with the tape itself, but all seemed fine. Repositioning the 125 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: mic he tried again. After another few minutes, he rewound 126 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the tape, pressed play, and waited, but yet again, much 127 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: to his annoyance, after a short period of quiet, the 128 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: speakers blared out the same static hiss of interference. Since 129 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: he could still just about hear the sound of birds 130 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: singing in the distance, clearly the record function was working, 131 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: But as he was about to switch off the tape, 132 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: something else burst through the noise. It sounded like a voice. 133 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: As he moved closer and listened more carefully, he could 134 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: hear it clearly now. It was a male voice speaking 135 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: in Norwegian about the sound of birdsong at night. Though 136 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: it was a bizarre occurrence. The tape player must merely 137 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: have somehow picked up a Norwegian radio transmission, he reasoned, 138 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: though it was certainly an extraordinary coincidence that it would 139 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: be all about birdsong, he thought, as he made his 140 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: way back to the house that evening. For the next month, 141 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: unable to make clean recordings, Frederick turned his attention to 142 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: another pet project he had been working on, researching the 143 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: fate of Russian Princess Anastasia. Though today it is widely 144 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: accepted that the youngest daughter of Zara Nicholas the second 145 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: and Zarina Alexandra Fyodorovna, was murdered along with the rest 146 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: of her immediate family in July nineteen eighteen, in the 147 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, her whereabouts remained very much a mystery. But 148 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: as Friedrich tried to concentrate on the task, he found 149 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: his mind continually wandering back to the strange recordings he 150 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: had made weeks before. Though he tried a few times 151 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: to recapture the peculiar broadcast, it appeared to have since 152 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: come to an end. That was until one evening in 153 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: mid July, with Monika having now returned to Stockholm. That night, 154 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Friedrich was once again sat alone in the outhouse attic, 155 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: trying in vain to capture another radio transmission. Since he 156 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: didn't have headphones, he kept his eyes glued to the 157 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: recording light for any sign that something was being received. 158 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: But as the moon outside the window rose higher into 159 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: the sky. With nothing to show for his efforts, Fredrick 160 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: was beginning to get tired. Just as his eyelids were 161 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: starting to close, the control light flashed red. That's strange, 162 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: he thought, since all about him was completely still. After 163 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: waiting for a few minutes, as the recording light continued 164 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: to flash, Fredrick stopped the recording before rewinding the tape 165 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and pressing play. After a brief moment of light atmospheric sound, 166 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: Fredrick was overjoyed to hear that familiar hissing roar once again, 167 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: and as he strained to listen through the interference, once 168 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: again came the familiar Norwegian voice. Tired but pleased with 169 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: the Knight's results, Fredrick went to bed, returning to listen 170 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: to the tape the following morning, just as he thought 171 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: he had indeed captured the same voice as before, only 172 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: this time something was different. It wasn't just the one voice. 173 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: It was multiple speaking in a range of languages, including English, German, Swedish, Italian, 174 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and Polish, all crossing over each other, reciting strange and 175 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: incomprehensible sentences. And then one other voice, a little clearer 176 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: than the rest, burst through the static. Fredrick sat back 177 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: in astonishment. It couldn't be, he thought. 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That's teladoc dot com slash Unexplained Podcast. Fredrick 197 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: played the tape back again and again. It was clear 198 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: somebody was trying to communicate with him. Later, after hearing 199 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: a second mention of his name, came a bizarre, cryptic request, Fredrick, 200 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: when you translate and interpret into German during the day, 201 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: try to solve the truth. Every evening with the ship 202 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: in the dark. Worried he might be losing his mind, 203 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: Fredrick promptly played the tapes to Monica, as it was 204 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: for anyone who would later hear them. It was hard 205 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: to discern much of anything through the violent roar of 206 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the static, but slowly as her ears began to adjust 207 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: to the different frequencies, buried within it. Monica two heard 208 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: the voices. It was a strange predicament coming across this 209 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: apparent phenomena so unexpectedly. Frederick had not been looking for this, 210 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: nor even spent any time considering it. He also had 211 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: much work to do, not only preparing for the excavation 212 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: in Pompeii the following spring, but keeping up with his 213 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: commissions in Sweden too, But everything seemed suddenly to pale 214 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: into comparison with what was occurring in that attic room 215 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: on his tape recorder. Another set of recordings made soon 216 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: after revealed yet more voices, but distinguishing between them all 217 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: was near impossible listening to them being played back on 218 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the machine. Eventually, Frederick brought a pair of headphone to 219 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: better interpret just what exactly was going on. Now he 220 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: was able to hear the sounds being captured as they 221 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: were being recorded. It wasn't long after that he realized 222 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: slowing the recordings down made it much easier to pick 223 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: out the voices, But despite having a crude a number 224 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: of similar recordings, he was no closer to figuring out 225 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: exactly what they were. Naturally, his first assumption, and surely 226 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: the only reasonable one, was that he was continuing to 227 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: pick up a number of converging radio signals, signals that 228 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: are constantly traveling through the air around us. Those mentions 229 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: of his name just coincidence and a form of confirmation 230 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: by us, he thought. Either way, Ascertaining their provenance became 231 00:17:52,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: his top priority. A few weeks later, having returned to Merlinbou, 232 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: this time with his poodle Carino for company, Fredrick returned 233 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: again to his attic room, plugged in the headphones, and 234 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: switched the tape player to record. No sooner had he 235 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: put the headphones on, the peaceful atmosphere of the Merlibou 236 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: country air was suddenly obliterated in a blare of static, 237 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and before long he could hear the voices coming through again, 238 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: mixed also this time with a variety of other strange 239 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: sounds and music too. After listening for a few minutes, 240 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: Fredrick heard the phone ringing downstairs. Leaving the tape to record, 241 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: he headed down to answer it, escorted by his ever 242 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: faithful Carino, who followed him closely behind. It was Monica 243 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: on the line, just wanting to know how the days 244 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: wecordings were going. With Carino sitting patiently next to him. 245 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Frederick was just telling Monica about what he had heard 246 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: so far when his dog abruptly rose to his feet 247 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: and scampered out of the room. As he continued talking 248 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: on the phone, Fredrick heard what he took to be 249 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the dog in the attic, jumping up around his chair 250 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: before finally settling down in it. Returning to the top 251 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: floor a few minutes later, sure enough, Fredrick found Carino 252 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: sitting on the chair, wagging his tail in excitement. Fredrick 253 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: picked him up and placed him on the spare bed 254 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: before returning again to the tape player. After a few 255 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: more minutes recording, he decided to stop and listen back 256 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: to what he had captured. Having rewound the tape to 257 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: just before the phone call, he hit play, sat back 258 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: and listened once again. Came the heavy burst of static, 259 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: and just audible, deep in the cacophony, he can just 260 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: make out the sound of a telephone ringing. Next, he 261 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: hears himself removing the headphones and pacing out of the room, 262 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: with Carino's poor steps following close behind. Strangely, as soon 263 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: as he has left the room, the hissing stops. In 264 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: the ensuing silence, Friedrich strains to hear the phone conversation 265 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: with Monica, but it is inaudible, so with nothing else occurring, 266 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: he skips the tape forward a few minutes. Soon the 267 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: sound of his approaching steps can be heard as he 268 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: returns to the room before opening the door and picking 269 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Carino up from the chair. At the sound of him 270 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: putting his headphones back on, curiously, the loud static bursts 271 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: immediately come back in. Unable to decipher the subsequent set 272 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: of noises loading within the interference, Fredric decides to play 273 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: the tape back again to confirm with the static had 274 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: indeed only occurred when he was sat at the tape player. 275 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: He returns the tape back to the moment he left 276 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: the room and lets it play out. What he hears 277 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: next changes everything. At first, he hears only the faint 278 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: sound of his voice on the phone downstairs, when suddenly 279 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: a peculiar, high pitched noise cuts in, followed by a 280 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: male voice quietly humming the opening refrain of the song LAA, 281 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: and then a different sound Carino's approaching poor steps as 282 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: he makes its way up the stairs, and then the 283 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: sound at the door as he nudges it open, just 284 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: as the dog enters the room. Friedrich is stunned when 285 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: he hears a clear Italian accented voice whispering, Ah, Carino, 286 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: do you hear me? It asks, Carino, do you know me? 287 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: And in the background he hears Carrino joyously spinning about 288 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: on the chair, wagging his tail. Later in the autumn, 289 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Monica's mother comes to stay at the house in Mernanbau, 290 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: having left a tape recording during the afternoon. When Fredrick 291 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: listens to it later that evening, he makes yet another 292 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: astonishing discovery. At one point, he is able to hear 293 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: Monica talking to her mother downstairs, when suddenly the volume 294 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: of the tape inexplicably drops drastically. Fredrick turns the volume 295 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: up as loud as it will go, and with Monica's 296 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: voice just audible in the background, another voice suddenly breaks in, 297 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: a male speaking in German. At Monica's It's cozy, it says, 298 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: and then another voice chimes in again in German. I 299 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: can see her, I hear her directly, it says. A 300 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: moment later the recording ends. Friedrich leans back in his 301 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: chair in a state of utter disbelief. As the weeks pass, 302 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Friedrich continues to record and pick up the numerous disembodied voices, 303 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: but grows frustrated by the lack of coherence and begins 304 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: to wander what is the point of it all. Worried 305 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: also that he might somehow be the butt of an 306 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: elaborate joke, he decides to bring an end to the experiments, 307 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: but soon something else begins to occur terrifies him. Although 308 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: he is no longer listening to the tapes, he is 309 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: still hearing the voices. One afternoon, while resting in his 310 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: study as rain pours down outside, he is certain he 311 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: can hear a voice in the patter of the raindrops. 312 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: Then later he hears it again in the rustle of 313 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: the burning fire. The voices seem to be following him everywhere. 314 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Concerned he is showing early signs of some form of schizophrenia, 315 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: he reassures himself that he is otherwise healthy, not suffering 316 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: any anxiety, and sleeping perfectly well. One afternoon, he is 317 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: certain he hears a voice calling out to him. Listen 318 00:24:48,800 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: to me, it says, take part in the work. Having 319 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: been convinced to return to his sonic research, Friedrich invites 320 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: a number of friends and scientists to join him in 321 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: his listening sessions. Though they are skeptical at first, they 322 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: too start to notice the peculiar messages buried in the recordings, 323 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: and though they are reluctant to speculate on what they are, 324 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: all agree that they are highly unusual. Frequently, most of 325 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the voices are preceded by a female voice who seems 326 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: to be instructing Fredrick on how best to hear the 327 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: assumed communications. Eventually, he discovers that using a radio in 328 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: close proximity to the recorder intensifies the messages, and that 329 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: tuning to certain frequencies at specific times will work best. 330 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: In January nineteen sixty, Friedrick receives the upsetting news that 331 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Boris Sakarov, an old friend from his childhood days in Asa, 332 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: had been killed in a car crash back in October 333 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: of the previous year. Shortly after, Friedrich learns that Zakarov 334 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: had recently become a renowned yoga teacher who also specialized 335 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: in the instruction of breathing exercises. Moments later, Fredrick raced 336 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: up to his study and pulled a tape from the shelf. Hurriedly, 337 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: he fixed it into place and pressed play. The recording 338 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: was one of a number he had made over the 339 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: Christmas period and had been confusing him ever since. He 340 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: understood it now that sound he had heard when sitting 341 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: alone in his room a few weeks ago had been 342 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: a deep exhalation of breath. Hearing it again on the 343 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: tape confirms his suspicions at the time. He had heard 344 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: the sound both in the room and through the headphones. 345 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: He spins the tape back a little further and lets 346 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: it play out. First, the violent cacophony of static blares 347 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: out into the room, and then from out of the 348 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: chaos come the words, as clear as day, your boris 349 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: is at the equipment. Over eight years in total, Friedrich 350 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: Jurgensen will record one hundred and forty tapes containing between 351 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: five to six thousand different recordings of what will later 352 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: become known as electronic voice phenomena, being left in no 353 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: doubt that what he had captured were the voices of 354 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: the dead. Further reported voices included those of his own mother, 355 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: as well as a number of recently deceased figures of 356 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: historical note, including in an odd twist, that of Adolf 357 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: Hitler and Winston Churchill. As a man of no little intellect, 358 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: Jurgensen was more than aware of the many rational explanations 359 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: that might account for what he had heard, with early 360 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: satellite communications and radio transmission being the most obvious. However, 361 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: not only did many of his friends and a number 362 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: of scientists keen to find an answer for the communications 363 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: hear them too, but often he would capture voices speaking 364 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: single sentences in multiple languages, which would seem to negate 365 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: the radio broadcast theory. Some have also suggested that the 366 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: multi lingual Jurgensen had somehow projected the voices onto the 367 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: tape himself. What seems never to have been endowed was 368 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Friedrich's integrity or the authenticity of the raw recordings. He 369 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: died at the age of eighty four in late nineteen 370 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: eighty seven. Whatever we believe about Jurgenson's peculiar findings, perhaps 371 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: we can take at least one thing from his experiences. 372 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: When all you can hear is the cacophony of chaos, 373 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: it pays not to turn away from the noise, but 374 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: to take the time to listen to what might be 375 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: buried underneath. Perhaps you too will hear the sound of 376 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: voices just wanting to be heard. 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