Speaker 1: Fifty percent. Right year, I love you fifty percent. Rat
Speaker 1: to sit down. Would come to the most prominent form
Speaker 1: for you. Wait your ass something early in the morning.
Speaker 1: But they tell me what was y'all? I said, Oh,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm getting the smoke choice morning show. Few
Speaker 1: people's choice. Let's see. I got you all my made people.
Speaker 1: I can't believe if you guys are the basket? Did
Speaker 1: we know this? Breakfast club? Hey? Yo, this is a
Speaker 1: man rapper. Good morning, your friend. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why man. I'm gonna tell you why man? For real? Man? Hey, yo,
Speaker 1: my girl keep coming home smelling like paul O colog
Speaker 1: so like like that ain't for girls like I love.
Speaker 1: Something's going on for real, like like like like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm heated about that and now I need you try
Speaker 1: to tell me why you are? Man? Why are you mad?
Speaker 1: I'm the breakfast club? For real? Hello? Who's this? Hey?
Speaker 1: This is miss JR. Hey dj VY, how you doing
Speaker 1: this morning? What's something? I'm gonna tell them? Why you mad? Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm because of the water or to hit you on
Speaker 1: instagra yesterday and gave you the address. Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: all the addresses. I appreciate that. Oh oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how you guys doing this morning? Give us every point
Speaker 1: from Flint. Let us know what's good over there? How
Speaker 1: bad is it down there? Oh? It's bad. It's super bad,
Speaker 1: you know, to the point where they want to see
Speaker 1: Snyder locked up and he should be locked up absolutely.
Speaker 1: How are you washing though? How you washing that? As
Speaker 1: boiling the water? The water? Now, I know they said
Speaker 1: any water, filters and some wipes. What else do you
Speaker 1: guys need? Um, that's pretty much it. And a and
Speaker 1: a blessing the God to get it through everything. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. Okay, Yeah, we are at the question
Speaker 1: when you boil the water to the turn claim, yeah gus, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but you know me, I put a little vinegary in
Speaker 1: my water anyhow, and you know what, that vinegar gonna
Speaker 1: keep that poom poom tight and fresh, you know by
Speaker 1: that forever? Thank you, Mama. We'll pay for you. We're
Speaker 1: paying for you, guys and playing it for you, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? Hello? Who's this Detroit truck driver? What's up up? Drive? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Tell them like mad? What's going on? Man? Mad? This
Speaker 1: my second time? Man? You know, I wake up this
Speaker 1: morning to get again. I put my girl back and
Speaker 1: she pushed me off. So you know what I do.
Speaker 1: I get my ass up and get back in the
Speaker 1: truck and hit the road again and searlo man crof
Speaker 1: in the bathroom to not work. It didn't work, man,
Speaker 1: you should have put it right. But do you ever? Yes, listen,
Speaker 1: we go ahead and put in any time some much's back.
Speaker 1: It's not good enough, But I'm just shoving them off
Speaker 1: next time. That might be. Still got to get content
Speaker 1: from your wife for a girl or whatever she is.
Speaker 1: I mean she's sleeping. Hey, it's my own, my consent.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. On drink, don't be that.
Speaker 1: I don't think you speak with you anymore. That's right. Hello,
Speaker 1: who's this Yolet's Rick from day Rick tell him? Are
Speaker 1: you man? Yeo? Man? So I'm tired of this whole
Speaker 1: mum rever lorical rep debate. It's getting played out in
Speaker 1: my opinions. Who cares bro Like? I'm from the South,
Speaker 1: so they always fronted on the South. So who cares
Speaker 1: a damn like? I saw a documentary on Noisy saying
Speaker 1: that I love God. He doesn't drink or he doesn't smoke,
Speaker 1: doesn't for the kids. Whereas where I grew up in
Speaker 1: the nineties, I was listening on the lyrical rapper like
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a gangster because I thought I
Speaker 1: was listening to these kids just want to have fun.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I mean, that's better for the community.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I think you got a lot of variety.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but you got a lot
Speaker 1: of variety now for every little YADDI it's a big sean.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying here, Like it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a variety for everybody. I agree. Hello, who's this yo?
Speaker 1: Breakfast club? Yeah, y'all, I love these guys. And I
Speaker 1: just want to say that. And it's five or six
Speaker 1: clocks in worry about anyway. I'm not mad. I just
Speaker 1: want to tell y'all that I just had my first
Speaker 1: night as a dance sir, and I just want to
Speaker 1: tell you all about my name. Tell us what happened, boy,
Speaker 1: Hold hold hold up. Next is why you're blessed? And
Speaker 1: right now you say I'm blessed, all right, so you
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on one second? Up, baby, seem all
Speaker 1: night my dance. Her name is Holiday, all right? Hold
Speaker 1: on Holiday, don't go anywhere. Up next is tell them
Speaker 1: why you blessed? Eight hundred five eighty five one oh
Speaker 1: five one. We have a young lady on the phone
Speaker 1: that feels blessed. Yesterday was her first day, first day
Speaker 1: as a script. I gonna find out all about it
Speaker 1: when we come back. Keep it locked. Eight hundred five
Speaker 1: eighty five one on five one, Blessings on, blessings on, blessings?
Speaker 1: Are you blessed? In highly favorite? I feel blessed? Tell
Speaker 1: the congregation at eight hundred five eighty five one five one.
Speaker 1: It's the breakfast club. Now we have Holiday on the line.
Speaker 1: That is her strip of name. Last night was her
Speaker 1: first night in the strip club. She feels blessed. Talk
Speaker 1: to me, it's about it Holiday, all right, So I
Speaker 1: think I may thank for my first night. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what's fact, but I'm in Miami, by the way.
Speaker 1: About it? All right? What club you at first? I
Speaker 1: was at one. I don't want to give my location
Speaker 1: out because okay, you don't have to do that. She
Speaker 1: just started. He just started, all right, what's your dancer name? Holiday?
Speaker 1: She said, Okay, how much did you make last night?
Speaker 1: I need six hundred good holiday. Well, it was really fun.
Speaker 1: I mean like I was in a black club because
Speaker 1: I'm black of forest anyway, Um, I was in Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, I was popping in shaking it, and I
Speaker 1: really liked the lifestyle because you know, I got what
Speaker 1: I wanted for the rest of the night and I
Speaker 1: just left. How old are you? How old are you? Well,
Speaker 1: my birthday's at the end of the month. Um, I
Speaker 1: was twenty four. Okay. I just want you to know
Speaker 1: last night was Beginning's luck and it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be in a lot of six hundred dollars knights, more
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars nights. But
Speaker 1: you're here now that's good. And that's good for a
Speaker 1: Wednesday night too. Oh guy, it is Wednesday, y'all. I'm popping.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Are you good at
Speaker 1: doing like tricks and stuff like that or do you
Speaker 1: just walk around? I can't No, I don't do pol tricks.
Speaker 1: I walked around, but I met this guy in the
Speaker 1: club ready to hook me up, Like classes start, So
Speaker 1: how do you practice me? How do you how do
Speaker 1: I practice. What do you need? Awker of work in
Speaker 1: the mirror? Like it was kind of like that, and
Speaker 1: then like you just take your clothes off. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you need to learn some politics too, the but
Speaker 1: you can always up the annie. Whatever you do, you
Speaker 1: gotta do be great at it. Would you like to
Speaker 1: share your Instagram with a married man? You know? All right?
Speaker 1: Okay you said it, I didn't. Would you like to
Speaker 1: share your yo? I can't believe that. I'm on the
Speaker 1: breakfast cover to you guys all time, and what a
Speaker 1: great night last night, great morning, no question that. What
Speaker 1: got you in the shipping? Would your dad in your life?
Speaker 1: Was it financial hardship? Like? What got you in the shipping?
Speaker 1: You got? My dad's definitely in my life and he's
Speaker 1: alive all time. And what are you going on? I
Speaker 1: like dancing and it's just financial harshness. Like I'm just
Speaker 1: going through a lot and I need fast money because
Speaker 1: like I have goals on my Listen, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: knock off right now and it cost money. Okay, bless you,
Speaker 1: it's a legal job for it. What can I have
Speaker 1: five kids and I'm making sure my daughters ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be on and you're married. No, she wants me to
Speaker 1: pay for it, like have kids. I'm married and I
Speaker 1: got my own kids. Then let me ask you a question. Now,
Speaker 1: if somebody came up with you and offered you a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars maybe for some Felacia, would you have done
Speaker 1: it last night? No, because I like I hook up
Speaker 1: with people that I actually care about, because that's like
Speaker 1: like sentimental god for money. It was yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just dancing, you know, like I just had a good time,
Speaker 1: like and I was drinking, like judgment. So you're always
Speaker 1: in the ship. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm
Speaker 1: boyd I'm bored at this phone call already. So that
Speaker 1: means she's just having a good time. She's dancing. She's
Speaker 1: not trying to have a relationship with one of these
Speaker 1: guys in the club. I'm sure that's how you are
Speaker 1: in the script club too. I see you at first,
Speaker 1: throw a couple of dollars like I'm bored. What's the
Speaker 1: next woman that can we go to? Huh? Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Charlotyne. You'll see me later on because I'm
Speaker 1: doing big things breakfast clubs, all right, Holiday you continue
Speaker 1: to be blessed. Okay, thank you, y'all, be blessed. Five.
Speaker 1: I love y'all. All right, I'll be careful. Please. I
Speaker 1: don't take drinks with men unless you see the drink
Speaker 1: actually come from the bartend to be extra careful out
Speaker 1: there because men creeps and perverts, so please trying to
Speaker 1: cover with screens. No, no, right, thank you. M's right.
Speaker 1: There are women. There are a lot of creep Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there are a lot of creeps out there,
Speaker 1: like seriously. That's right, she's twenty four. Mind, you're right,
Speaker 1: tell her, tell her all the basics. Just be careful
Speaker 1: out there, all right. Look both waiting before you cross
Speaker 1: the street as well. Okay you all right? Shout the holiday.
Speaker 1: She's blessed. Last day was her first night at the
Speaker 1: strip club. All right, the breakfast club? Are you blessing?
Speaker 1: Highly favored? I feel blessed. Tell the congregation at eight
Speaker 1: hundred and five eighty five one old I have one
Speaker 1: gets the Breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Yo? What up? Envy?
Speaker 1: Shout out to the club, y'all, what's up? Bro? You
Speaker 1: feel blessed this morning? Bro? Yo, man, I'm blessed because
Speaker 1: my son is an all star deiece as a lineman
Speaker 1: and a big non high school he getting the three
Speaker 1: point nine. My girl doing good at work. My family
Speaker 1: is healthy, and every day I get to wake up, man,
Speaker 1: I get to wake up and enjoy it as a father,
Speaker 1: not a dad. That's very important. A lot of daddies
Speaker 1: are here, not enough fathers. Hello. Who's this? This is Trapt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you? Hey? Good morning? You're feeling blessed this morning, Mamma. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling super blessed in the good morning shouting man.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to call in this morning and
Speaker 1: tell you guys that I am truly blessed. I have
Speaker 1: my life going in the right direction. I'm focused on
Speaker 1: my kids right now. I just went through a horrible breakup,
Speaker 1: but my kids father, so it's just a blessing for
Speaker 1: me to be folks. And I got good news that
Speaker 1: I'm eligible to buy the house that I live in. Yeah, okay, okay, congratulation.
Speaker 1: And I live in Warren, Michigan. You know, I'm out
Speaker 1: here where this Warren m Mayor had called us chimpantees
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So even through it all, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to stay focused and be blessed. And think
Speaker 1: about my kids and my finances. So I'm truly blessed
Speaker 1: that through the breakup I found the Lord. I found
Speaker 1: them even more than I found them before. I'm attending
Speaker 1: church every Sunday and it's just a really positive thing,
Speaker 1: you know, to just stay on track. Hello. Who's this?
Speaker 1: This is Kim, Kim feeling blessed this morning? Yes, I
Speaker 1: am tell us why, Kim. I'm blessed because I have
Speaker 1: a roof over my head, breath in my body, food
Speaker 1: on my table, a husband who loves me unconditionally, and
Speaker 1: I am amazing, a little three year olds, fun and
Speaker 1: I loving family. There you go, baby, you just make
Speaker 1: sure that breath in your body is fresh to morning.
Speaker 1: Have you brushed your teeth? Oh? The hallelujah God, I
Speaker 1: have a good morning, Mama. There you have it. Blessings on,
Speaker 1: blessings on, blessings, all the blessing highly favored people out
Speaker 1: there who ain't worried about nothing. Hey, Charlomagne and God,
Speaker 1: here the prime Minister of pissing people off. You all
Speaker 1: listening to the world most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club and now listen tonight on v H one is
Speaker 1: a TV show premiere and now we all watched this
Speaker 1: movie as a family. The movie was called The Break
Speaker 1: to Start Mac Wilds. Methi Man was Mac Wild's father.
Speaker 1: We all sat around and watched this movie as a family,
Speaker 1: and when it was over, we all was like, that's
Speaker 1: really just how it's going to end, Like like that's it.
Speaker 1: But I could tell the way it ended that it
Speaker 1: was going to turn into a series, and it did.
Speaker 1: The series premiere is tonight at nine h Central only
Speaker 1: on VH one. It's a story about hustle, hope, making
Speaker 1: your mark. You know, in order to change the world,
Speaker 1: you got to change the game. It's got Wood Harris
Speaker 1: on there. It's just a really dope show and I
Speaker 1: hope this series does the movie justice. I know where
Speaker 1: I will be at tonight at nine o'clock, and that's
Speaker 1: watching VH one because The Breaks will be on. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's watch as a family, shall we. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be on like episode three or four The Breaks
Speaker 1: this season. But it premiers tonight all right on H one,
Speaker 1: nine eighth Central, and the Start to show Mac Wilds
Speaker 1: will be here next on the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody
Speaker 1: is DJ n Vy Angela yee, Charlomagne the god. We
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
Speaker 1: the building. That's right, yeah Mac wild Wait, I'm a
Speaker 1: little nervous right now. She got a whole which whoa,
Speaker 1: that's not that's where did you hear at? Its? Like
Speaker 1: on the streets they don't call him Mac Wilds for nothing. Okay, Like, hey, ladies,
Speaker 1: I used my hand, I don't use whips. Crazy. Now
Speaker 1: when the guys get out of line, they talk crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh so let's talk on them. Yeah, that's not even
Speaker 1: right now for a break coming back to twentieth Yes man,
Speaker 1: yes man, it's it's great. It seems like I've been
Speaker 1: a while since the movie. Yeah, just a whole yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, we gotta, we gotta. VH one actually
Speaker 1: trusted us with doing the whole season of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: it feels good if it feels really really dope, man,
Speaker 1: we we we actually got a chance, you know, to
Speaker 1: sit down with Dan Charners and a bunch of other
Speaker 1: dope writers, you know, seek Man, Homegirl Jazz and a
Speaker 1: bunch of other dope writers and Jazz Fly Fly yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and create what what we what we went through?
Speaker 1: You know in the nineties, well what they went through,
Speaker 1: they're a little older than you work with some new actors.
Speaker 1: When this time around they got a new cast, a
Speaker 1: few new people, new people. My boy sin Qua s
Speaker 1: you know sin Qua, he's a but he's dope, man,
Speaker 1: he's I think I think all around all of that
Speaker 1: is that we got this year. They've just added on
Speaker 1: to what we we've already done. Uh, it really hasn't
Speaker 1: taken anything away. And plus we kept a lot of
Speaker 1: everybody who's who's been on the first movie. So Ti
Speaker 1: is on there playing a lawyer. He was Manna Tellor,
Speaker 1: you know, my sister. It's dope. What Harris is on
Speaker 1: there too? Yeah, of course with Harris, he's he's back.
Speaker 1: He's back. He's back. In fact, he's dope. He's dope.
Speaker 1: Does that work because you're doing the show on he's
Speaker 1: on it too on the episode I don't know what
Speaker 1: episode though, episode Like, okay, that's good. What's doing he's
Speaker 1: a he's a judge. I believe he's a he's a
Speaker 1: host like Ale Oh yeah, host of a DJ battle
Speaker 1: type cast. Absolutely, yeah, but it took a long from
Speaker 1: the film though. Yeah, that racist. I don't think racist
Speaker 1: is the term racist action? You win? I don't even
Speaker 1: remember now, CAMERAZONI remember, remember what does our host from?
Speaker 1: A DJ? Uh? What is like a DJ battle host?
Speaker 1: And then you gotta be like, yes, yes, y'all clean.
Speaker 1: Let me hear your screen. Helos he knows you know
Speaker 1: he was back in the day. We got to clean.
Speaker 1: You got mixa. I think, I do. I think, I actually, Cassette,
Speaker 1: I think because I know it's different when you have
Speaker 1: a movie than when you have a series. You know,
Speaker 1: the craziest thing, we really didn't share too too far
Speaker 1: away from what we actually were. What we started with,
Speaker 1: we expanded on it. So rather than just starting with
Speaker 1: the three kids who got out of college and went
Speaker 1: to New York to figure out their lives and wanted
Speaker 1: to go into hip hop and figure out what that was,
Speaker 1: you get to see deeper and you see what hip
Speaker 1: hop really was at the time, how gritty it was,
Speaker 1: how dirty it was, how you like, how much how
Speaker 1: much in the streets it was, and how it been
Speaker 1: how it turned into what it is today. So all
Speaker 1: of the things, all of the things that I didn't
Speaker 1: know that you know. Reading Dan Charner's book, it just
Speaker 1: lets you know, like page by page, like date by date.
Speaker 1: It's crazy and it good for a guy like yourself
Speaker 1: because if you listen to your first album, you did
Speaker 1: sample a lot of older stuff. I guess being on
Speaker 1: the brakes did you learn more and get into it
Speaker 1: with more new music and thinks you didn't know you
Speaker 1: like on me use that it was? It was, it was,
Speaker 1: It was more so just uh. It was one of
Speaker 1: those things where I was I was as a fan
Speaker 1: of hip hop. I became more of a fan because
Speaker 1: I understood more of where it came from, especially growing
Speaker 1: up in Staples, in the projects and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like seeing how it literally came from the kids that
Speaker 1: grew up just like me, you know, like when I
Speaker 1: was growing up watching mess a Man and all of
Speaker 1: them do it, they were like gods to us, Like
Speaker 1: we didn't. I don't think it resonated to all of
Speaker 1: us that they grew up exactly how we grew up
Speaker 1: the same, the same things that we grew up with
Speaker 1: the same roaches and rats. Even though they spoke about it,
Speaker 1: we didn't really understand it. But now with with this
Speaker 1: show and seeing it, like being in it, it's it
Speaker 1: gives you a whole other. Respect for everything that they did,
Speaker 1: but these superheroes came from somewhere. Yeah, it makes some human.
Speaker 1: Have you recorded again? Have you recorded new music? Stopping?
Speaker 1: You've been a whole year, you ain't heard of record?
Speaker 1: But but I definitely, I definitely have been recorded. I
Speaker 1: definitely have been recording. We have a we have a
Speaker 1: project coming out very soon. It's hard to call it
Speaker 1: just a music project because there's so many fastests to it.
Speaker 1: Now that you know that, now that I've taken so
Speaker 1: much time, I feel like every time we finished something,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh nah, it's been so long, I got
Speaker 1: to add something else to it. So we add something
Speaker 1: else to it, and not even just the music side
Speaker 1: of it. Like there's different aspects to it now, like
Speaker 1: different fastests to it. So it's a whole experience. So
Speaker 1: how that. So you're doing the Fox Show shot fire? Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: Are you a regular? Yes, sir, Jesus Christ? And you
Speaker 1: still got time for the brakes they want to keep
Speaker 1: We appreciate them checks. How did that work though? God? Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: you got time. You know what, if you got twenty
Speaker 1: four hours in a day and seven days a week,
Speaker 1: you can make time bro, it's as simple as that, man, um.
Speaker 1: But the album's never coming out there that album, that
Speaker 1: album is definitely coming out, and it's coming out with
Speaker 1: the wave of everything else. So just it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Be sure and about still be in these streets, by
Speaker 1: the way, he still finds time to be be out
Speaker 1: and about. I just started getting back out and about
Speaker 1: man like it was. It was, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a hard time because again I was working on everything.
Speaker 1: But uh, with with being back home and everything, everybody
Speaker 1: was like, yo, man, like you have you haven't touched
Speaker 1: the streets in a minute, man, So yeah, it feels
Speaker 1: good to be back home and and and seeing everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, all the people. Hey, we got morel with
Speaker 1: Mac Wives coming up next. Make sure you check out
Speaker 1: The Breaks on VH one tonight at nine pm. It's
Speaker 1: the World Most Dangerous Morning for the Breakfast Club, The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Is it just me? Are you listening to
Speaker 1: the World Most Dangerous Morning shor the Breakfast Club? I
Speaker 1: go by the name of Charlemagne and God and we're
Speaker 1: talking to Mac Wives and Vach one of the Breaks,
Speaker 1: which premiers tonight at nine eighth Central. Lathan, how was
Speaker 1: that working with that beautiful. Just amazing. God, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: amazing man, honestly, son I besides just being one of
Speaker 1: of the top most beautiful women in the world, she
Speaker 1: is literally probably one of the women one of the
Speaker 1: people that I've learned the most from acting wise, just
Speaker 1: career wise in a while, man like like to understand
Speaker 1: how much she gives to her craft and being on
Speaker 1: set with her and just studying her and me and
Speaker 1: her just having conversations and her teaching me even before that,
Speaker 1: like because I was I met her through her dad, Stanley,
Speaker 1: So even understanding like just the ideas in the minds,
Speaker 1: the way that her mind works. It's amazing. Did you
Speaker 1: let her friends on you or did you like keep
Speaker 1: your going to table so to speak? I listen, I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I don't mix business and pleasure. So Maxine is way
Speaker 1: too respectful. Don't let a little brother you though, just
Speaker 1: keep it open my little brother, Mack. You know, But
Speaker 1: how to say that that's awesome, that's not a little
Speaker 1: better than Mac Wilds? I agree, I agree, I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I'm not mad at the little brother,
Speaker 1: but I'm not mad at what you're saying. Between that
Speaker 1: you have to choose one in a jazz video, that's
Speaker 1: Mask or Beyonce. If you had to choose one, shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a hard decision. I'm just who I'm asking what
Speaker 1: we had even adult pick. It's true. I mean, Beyonce
Speaker 1: is Beyonce bro Like everybody understands what she is and
Speaker 1: what she does for our culture, and how and how
Speaker 1: strong of a figure she is in our in our society.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of undeniable, like she's indelible in
Speaker 1: our in everything that we do as a as a society.
Speaker 1: It's to do a collaboration, You're pick to do a
Speaker 1: collaboration with Beyonce over a Oh, I'm I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a song with both of them at the same time.
Speaker 1: You were you shot that A Dell had one album
Speaker 1: of the year over because I mean, when you hear Hello,
Speaker 1: you gotta think of yourself a lot, right, I mean
Speaker 1: you when over over Lemonade, Uh, I think everybody was shocked,
Speaker 1: you know, I think with all was shocked. You saw her.
Speaker 1: She was um Lemonade was of course it didn't sell
Speaker 1: as much as as Adell did, but just understanding what
Speaker 1: Lemonade was, it was it was bigger than the music, Like,
Speaker 1: this is the artist that we've seen in every shaping form.
Speaker 1: We've seen her through Destiny, Stid, We've seen her through everything,
Speaker 1: and then for her to show and shed this this
Speaker 1: part of her that we were expecting to stay elsewhere.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I was using you as an example all
Speaker 1: week because people were saying, well, it doesn't really know
Speaker 1: about racial relations I'm like when she had Mac and
Speaker 1: her video and it was supposed to be about an
Speaker 1: interracial relations relationship, because they're like, oh, she's from the UK,
Speaker 1: so she don't know about relations racial relations in America.
Speaker 1: So she didn't mean anything about it back. You can't,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't say that. I would say, I
Speaker 1: would say one thing about her, dell Man, she is
Speaker 1: she is one of the most inept, like amazing minded
Speaker 1: women that I've met in a long time. And and
Speaker 1: her her rawness and her just how how how much
Speaker 1: she cares about what music is. I haven't seen in
Speaker 1: a long time, like like even acting, Like even when
Speaker 1: we're on set, she's like, I know, I'm not an actor, Like, listen,
Speaker 1: this isn't what I do. I'm like, Yo, you're actually
Speaker 1: pretty good. She's like, nah, after all of that, literally
Speaker 1: cares in like f all of that, like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: isn't what I do, like understand me. And she's she's
Speaker 1: literally just a dope woman. Man, She's dope. I wonder
Speaker 1: what your your what your energy is right now, because
Speaker 1: like if you watched the Golden Globes and you see
Speaker 1: the success of a Donald Glove, but then you watch
Speaker 1: the Grammys and see the success of We Have a
Speaker 1: Chance or anybody, what would you want more? Because you
Speaker 1: got the opportunity all potential to do both. What you
Speaker 1: think you can't pick both? What would you want more? No?
Speaker 1: Man as Grammy you know it's Holden Global grammar, you
Speaker 1: know right, It's it's crazy because one of my one
Speaker 1: of my biggest goals ever since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to get the It's not even the
Speaker 1: Holy Trinity, like the quadruple, like the egot, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to get an Emmy and a Grammy, an
Speaker 1: Oscar and a Tony. I want to get all four,
Speaker 1: like I want I want to fill that up. And
Speaker 1: if even if I get a Golden Globe, like that'll
Speaker 1: be great as well, But like to get all four
Speaker 1: like that that was like as a kid like, I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that a dope, Like if I could
Speaker 1: get that, well, you're starting nice early. Yeah, right, who
Speaker 1: has that? I always hear about the et, but who
Speaker 1: had There's only a few people, I think, honestly, I
Speaker 1: think WHOOPI Goldberg has one. I think Goldberg has one.
Speaker 1: Barbara Streissen has one. There's a few people because plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you haven't jumped into that roum not yet. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get one of those. Davidy Talbot, MoMA, there goes that
Speaker 1: man something like that. No, no, man, there goes that man. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's the name literally probably your name of a player too. No,
Speaker 1: I was you know the last play that I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I wish I would have been on?
Speaker 1: Was was Hamilton? Like? That was? Yeah? One of my
Speaker 1: one of my big brothers from um from Red Sails,
Speaker 1: Leslie Oldham, he was on. He was on Hamilton's and
Speaker 1: I remember by by happenstance got seen it outside and
Speaker 1: he was just like, Yo, we're doing we're doing a
Speaker 1: show tonight. You should come through. Joe Lucas is coming through.
Speaker 1: Lee Daniels Leo, Yo, I'm gonna leave tickets at the door.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like I heard about it,
Speaker 1: went to the show. Mind blown. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like the cabinet meetings are rat battles. Like I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is explaining American history the way that
Speaker 1: I wish I would have learned it in school. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. And from there on I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have been in this, Like I
Speaker 1: wish I wish I would have thought of this or
Speaker 1: or had the opportunity the audition for this. Right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was the last play that I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: I know you've been writing as well too, though, absolutely right,
Speaker 1: So where's that going now? The writing? I mean I
Speaker 1: write a lot. I mean what you're talking about? Oh nah,
Speaker 1: I it goes back to the music that I've been writing.
Speaker 1: You know. We uh we we kind of just been
Speaker 1: writing scripts and everything for the for the music that
Speaker 1: we wrote as well. So instead of doing like the
Speaker 1: quinch essential usual short film, the fifteen minute long form
Speaker 1: music video that a lot of people do nowadays, I
Speaker 1: wanted to actually do something that was a little more cinematic,
Speaker 1: you know, that would bring the viewers in a little
Speaker 1: more and engage them like like a TV show was
Speaker 1: so me and one of my best friends we wrote
Speaker 1: a kind of wrote a miniseries to to the project
Speaker 1: as well. So that's another one of the fastest to it.
Speaker 1: But we we got a lot going on, yeah, because
Speaker 1: if not, then oh yeah, we got a lot. We
Speaker 1: got a lot put into this project. And we keep
Speaker 1: on adding more. All right, we got more. Mac Wild's
Speaker 1: coming up next, and don't forget to watch the Breaks
Speaker 1: tonight at nine on VH one is the World was
Speaker 1: Dangerous Morning Show, the breakfast club Piece of the Planet's
Speaker 1: Charlomagne the God and we're talking to Mac Wilds and
Speaker 1: Va one of the breaks, which premiers tonight at nine.
Speaker 1: Eighth Central Politics affecting music, now art if it affects
Speaker 1: my art, not necessarily just my music, Like uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the main reasons why I jump
Speaker 1: jumped that Shots fired. You know, when Shots Fired came
Speaker 1: out and understanding the political climate that we were in,
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, like this is a no brainer,
Speaker 1: Like it made all sense in the world, Like, so
Speaker 1: what is it about? Because we think shots fired, we
Speaker 1: think somebody tweeting somebody something crazy. Shots fired about so
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, it's it's pretty much, uh, an autopsy
Speaker 1: of a small city in North Carolina, um torn apart
Speaker 1: by the murders or the deaths of two kids, one
Speaker 1: black and one white by the hands of the police
Speaker 1: on the side, or the police had something to do
Speaker 1: with us. But uh, to to put it in terms
Speaker 1: that everybody would understand, what would happen in the in
Speaker 1: the country, in the world if, after all of the
Speaker 1: police have killings that have happened from Ferguson everywhere, Baltimore
Speaker 1: Stating and everywhere, Right, what would happen in the small
Speaker 1: town in North Carolina if a black cop kills a
Speaker 1: white kid. That's the first minute. That's the first minute
Speaker 1: of the show. I played a black cop rookie. Of
Speaker 1: course I'm assuming yeah, yeah, he is the Wow, that's dope, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can see that. That comes out of March right,
Speaker 1: Newe comes out much March twenty second A lot on
Speaker 1: this plate. Man, that's totally politically driven, sir, How do
Speaker 1: you prepare for a role like that? It's hard, it's hard, um,
Speaker 1: and you're from Staten Island, where one of the most uh,
Speaker 1: I guess historic police killings happened, Eric Gardone, Arigana, rest
Speaker 1: in peace. My man's um. Yeah it was tough man.
Speaker 1: Uh mind I grew up in I grew up in
Speaker 1: the project. So yeah, so even even bigger than that.
Speaker 1: Like we all know when a cop pulls up on you,
Speaker 1: you you don't your first your first thought process and
Speaker 1: mindset isn't nice or anything good. It's usually either run
Speaker 1: or like yo, I didn't do nothing. It's automatically something hostile.
Speaker 1: But to to actually learn how police think, do police training,
Speaker 1: going these going these right alongs with these cops like
Speaker 1: to to be to see how cops see and think.
Speaker 1: Mind you, I don't. I don't condone anything that these
Speaker 1: cops have done. I I give them a different respect.
Speaker 1: Now I have a I have a slightly better understanding
Speaker 1: of where they come from. Because on our side, we're nervous,
Speaker 1: we understand. We we hear the horror stories. We see
Speaker 1: them on our on our screens, we see them on television,
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, we hear the stories that our parents
Speaker 1: told us, like like, it's it's in our it's in
Speaker 1: our diaspora, it's in our it's in everything that we've
Speaker 1: learned as as kids like as people growing up in
Speaker 1: this country as minorities. On the other side, cops they
Speaker 1: hear the horror stories, like, they're just as scared as us,
Speaker 1: So they literally walk into these situations with two scared people.
Speaker 1: So it's automatically a powder kid. It's it's bound to
Speaker 1: erupt at any minute, right, So it's it's literally the
Speaker 1: scariest moment. Like I remember, I remember doing a ride
Speaker 1: along in Washington Heights. Mind you, the cops were walking
Speaker 1: through one of the projects. We smell weed. The cops
Speaker 1: is like, yo, let's just walk down the steps. So
Speaker 1: the kids get out of the hallway, walk down the steps,
Speaker 1: and the kids are as soon as they see the cops,
Speaker 1: they're so hostile and they're grabbing for their waist and
Speaker 1: they're pulling out their phones. I'm scared, like on something
Speaker 1: like oh, like damn, that's wilds. Like nobody I'm standing
Speaker 1: behind the wall so I don't so nobody see that
Speaker 1: the wilds with the cops come to the cops different situations.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm like, yo, like to see what
Speaker 1: this situation could literally turn into. Where I was that kid,
Speaker 1: Like I remember being that kid, Like yo, I didn't
Speaker 1: do nothing like and being so hostile and himp got
Speaker 1: a lot to do it that though, absolutely, because we
Speaker 1: grew up, we taught the kids after cops and pigs
Speaker 1: and people have a lot to do. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that it's a there's a there's a whole like
Speaker 1: which came first to checking on the egg situation. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day where we are right now,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's what happened with that intident. The
Speaker 1: kids finally just breeze off, but after a while, but
Speaker 1: it was it took a minute. It didn't make you
Speaker 1: think like what can be done to make these relationships
Speaker 1: better between regular people and the police. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me, I after doing it. Another story,
Speaker 1: one of the days that we h that I had
Speaker 1: to actually do this scene where the kid gets shot
Speaker 1: was the day that filndol cast still got wow. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so mind you. I'm I walk in my trailer, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my phone. I see the whole thing because
Speaker 1: Shorty video take the whole thing on her on on
Speaker 1: Facebook Live. So I'm watching my on my phone. I'm
Speaker 1: not even paying attention to what the call. She says,
Speaker 1: or anything. I just walk in my trailer, not realizing
Speaker 1: what I gotta do today, walk in and I see
Speaker 1: my police uniform like dead smack in front of me,
Speaker 1: automatically burst into tears, like couldn't hold back, couldn't even
Speaker 1: go on set for like two hours. Producers had to
Speaker 1: come in just talk to me like yo, like listen,
Speaker 1: you're doing this for a reason, like keeping questioning whether
Speaker 1: you even wanted to do it exactly. I don't won't
Speaker 1: be no people exactly like it was. It was one
Speaker 1: of those moments where I'm like, am I doing this
Speaker 1: for the right reasons? And I remember Gina coming in
Speaker 1: to my to my to the to the trailer and
Speaker 1: just and talking to me and saying like, listen, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand this is this is this is as hard
Speaker 1: for you as it is for us, and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be something bigger than all of us. So like
Speaker 1: just stick it out like we got you, Like this
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't something that's bad. This is something that's
Speaker 1: going to start the right conversation to hopefully drive people
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Is there gonna be a lesson
Speaker 1: learned or is it just it just profiting off it's
Speaker 1: definitely going to be a lesson learned. And if there's
Speaker 1: anything that, if there's if it, if Gina and Reggie
Speaker 1: are involved, you will definitely always get a lesson learned.
Speaker 1: You'll always get like the right like it. They always
Speaker 1: land right on the mark. Now, I know why you're
Speaker 1: gonna have time, because if you're a cop in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: a black cop who kills a white guy, you're gonna
Speaker 1: die in the first season, probably first few episodes. Ready
Speaker 1: for the break season. You gave the first three episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Hey, man, just watch the show, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. I'm
Speaker 1: in every episode. Okay, Okay, there you go, and the
Speaker 1: race premier is February twenty h one. Shots Fired premieres
Speaker 1: Mars twenty seconds after the entire on Fox TV. We
Speaker 1: appreciate your jor the album winning. The album's coming soon.
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a hip hop fan, we got
Speaker 1: the brakes for you. If you if you want to
Speaker 1: if you want to start a conversation about the social
Speaker 1: climate and what's going on in our world right now,
Speaker 1: we got Shots Fired for you. And if you just
Speaker 1: want to vibe out and get some good music in
Speaker 1: your life. We got the album for you, so we
Speaker 1: don't know what y'all girls are waiting on to get
Speaker 1: this baby from macwatter? Do you see all this money
Speaker 1: this man is getting. Macwise is a best though, take
Speaker 1: Moody to tame him. I know information macis. It's a
Speaker 1: breakfast club. Good morning. Yeah, it's time for Donkey of
Speaker 1: the day. So being Dunky of the day a little
Speaker 1: bit of a mill so like a dope the other day. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been called a lot of my twenty three years.
Speaker 1: That Donkey of the day is a new wife. Me
Speaker 1: being the devil is an alternative fact. Okay. Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: team is officially the greatest castle comedians ever. Not the
Speaker 1: cast of The Chappelle Show, not the Cassimine, Living Color,
Speaker 1: not the cast of S and Now, not the cast
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, Blackish, Insecure, none of that. Donald Trump's team
Speaker 1: with the funniest without even trying. Okay, it's not the
Speaker 1: funniest sitcom a reality show on television right now. In fact,
Speaker 1: what they have going on would be called an alternative
Speaker 1: reality show, the first of it's kind. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: personally thoroughly enjoy it simply because I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: around and pout for the next four years. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just keep God first, live my life, get this money
Speaker 1: so I can empower myself and others, and enjoy this
Speaker 1: alternative reality show called the Trump Administration. Now we all
Speaker 1: got eyes, all right, some of y'all were, actually they're
Speaker 1: in DC this weekend. We saw the inauguration on TV. Okay,
Speaker 1: and let's be clear, it just wasn't lit, wasn't popping,
Speaker 1: wasn't a large crowd that as inaugurations go. I mean,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's inauguration paled in comparison to the Woman's March.
Speaker 1: Drop on a clue's bombs for the Woman's March, damn it. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Woman's March had three times more people than Trump's
Speaker 1: inauguration crowd. Crowd scientists say it was at about four
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand demonstrators in DC, compared to about
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty for Trump's inauguration. I know what
Speaker 1: you're thinking, I'm the President of the United States of America.
Speaker 1: I won already. Who cares how many people come to
Speaker 1: the ring ceremony? I won? Give me my ring I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how I would think, but I'm not an arcistic
Speaker 1: epomaniac like some people. Clearly, this is what the Trump
Speaker 1: administration cares about. But that's what happens when a country
Speaker 1: doesn't have a command during chief, but a celebrity in chief. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the National Press Secretary Foss celebrity in chief, came to
Speaker 1: his defense this weekend during a press conference. Shaun Spice
Speaker 1: is what they call him. He claimed, the crowd to
Speaker 1: witness Trump's inauguration Friday was the biggest of all time. Brilliant, Ringly, brothers,
Speaker 1: don't believe me. Listen to yourself. Photographs of the inaugural
Speaker 1: proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet,
Speaker 1: to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the
Speaker 1: National Mall. We do know a few things, so let's
Speaker 1: go through the facts. We know that from the platform
Speaker 1: where the president was sworn into, Fourth Street holds about
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand people. From Fourth Street to
Speaker 1: the media tent is about another two hundred and twenty thousand,
Speaker 1: and from the media tent to the Washington Monument another
Speaker 1: another two hundred and fifty thousand people. All of this
Speaker 1: space was full when the president took the oath of office.
Speaker 1: We know that four hundred and twenty thousand people used
Speaker 1: the DC Metro public transit yesterday Jesus, which it actually
Speaker 1: compares to three hundred and seventeen thousand. They used it
Speaker 1: for President Obama's last inaugural h if he's the largest
Speaker 1: audience to ever witness an inauguration. Periods where these attempts
Speaker 1: to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong.
Speaker 1: National Pressed Secretary Sean Spicer just up there pressed telling lie. Okay,
Speaker 1: not only did he tell a lie, he had reasonings
Speaker 1: for his lie. The white top laid out in front
Speaker 1: of the Capitol script security measures led the attendees getting
Speaker 1: there late. Sean's not like a club promoter trying to
Speaker 1: tell the DJ why he can't pay him all his
Speaker 1: money at the end of the night, Like stop trying
Speaker 1: to sell me a dream. I know why you can't
Speaker 1: pay me because nobody showed up. But Sean Spicer wasn't
Speaker 1: the only person in the Trump administration who was trying
Speaker 1: to sell America a dream. Kelly Anne Conway, Trump's senior
Speaker 1: advisor was on ABC's This Week and when presston Watch
Speaker 1: Spicer said things that weren't true, she gave us a
Speaker 1: term that pretty much is gonna sum up everything the
Speaker 1: administration stands for the Trump administration, let's hear it. They
Speaker 1: got to answer the question of why the president asked
Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary to come out in front
Speaker 1: of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood.
Speaker 1: Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of
Speaker 1: the entire White House Press Office. So don't be so
Speaker 1: overly dramatic about it. Chuckle what you're saying, it's a falsehood,
Speaker 1: and they're giving Sean Spicer, our Press secretary, gave alternative
Speaker 1: facts to that. But the point alternatives four to five facts,
Speaker 1: the others we're just not true. Look, alternative facts are
Speaker 1: not facts, they're falsehood. Drop one of clues bombs for
Speaker 1: alternative facts damaged the new sexy way to say lies.
Speaker 1: If you're married, stop saying you're having an a fan.
Speaker 1: Just say you have an alternative relationship. Have a baby
Speaker 1: with another woman other than your wife, a girlfriend. That's
Speaker 1: an alternative child. You hif you positive and you don't
Speaker 1: want to tell people your status. Just say you've got
Speaker 1: alternative blood cell. The possibility is an endless speak. I'm
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy fan, alternative relationship. Okay, shut up, I'm
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy fan. In my mind, we didn't lose
Speaker 1: the Green Bay last week. Alrighty, we beat Atlanta yesterday. Therefore,
Speaker 1: in my mind, we are the alternative NFC champion. Since
Speaker 1: facts don't matter anymore and we can just create our
Speaker 1: own alternative realities, let me live my lie. Okay. See,
Speaker 1: this is the reality of the situation. The reason people
Speaker 1: didn't show up the Trumps inauguration is because we live
Speaker 1: in a world full of sneaky Trump supporters, and nobody
Speaker 1: wants to admit they voted for Trump. So being that
Speaker 1: nobody wants to admit they voted for Trump, of course
Speaker 1: they wouldn't show up to the inauguration. The rest of
Speaker 1: its supporters probably can't afford to come. You're in the
Speaker 1: backwoods and Mississippi somewhere. You want to support your guy.
Speaker 1: Let's go to day, say Baba, Jake, clean us gas
Speaker 1: off the truck. We had it north? Which way to day?
Speaker 1: Say follow the sun. Look the support us in the
Speaker 1: backwoods couldn't make it all right. They couldn't make it
Speaker 1: to the inauguration. They got hogs. Intend to all right.
Speaker 1: Will Rogers once said a fool and his money are
Speaker 1: soon elected. We're hearing that Donald Trump is president, and
Speaker 1: that is not an alternative fact. That is a reality.
Speaker 1: So let's just all enjoy the show, that entertainment and
Speaker 1: the content they provide for us all, and just pray
Speaker 1: we all don't die in the process. Give Sean Spicson
Speaker 1: and Kelly Ann Conway the biggest Hea Hall please. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building again, my brother.
Speaker 1: He's always up. He's part of the Breakfast Club. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Mike Werck Dyson. Yes, sir, it's so good to be
Speaker 1: back here with y'all. That's your chair that night, Hey,
Speaker 1: I feel it. I'm at home. And now last time
Speaker 1: you was here, you was releasing the book Tied. We
Speaker 1: cannot stop. Yes, sir, the book released, it was number
Speaker 1: eight on the New York Times Best Sellers. Let's drop
Speaker 1: on the clue's bombs for that night I was reading
Speaker 1: that book when I was getting my hair done, and
Speaker 1: everybody in the beauty type of excuse me, can I
Speaker 1: see that book that you're reading? What is that about? Oh?
Speaker 1: Nice title alone gets a lot of attention, yes, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's been incredible. Man, I've been getting of course, I
Speaker 1: get the white hate mail, but I got a lot
Speaker 1: of white love based on that. A lot of white
Speaker 1: people saying this is ironic. They said, you're actually speaking
Speaker 1: for us. This is the kind of stuff we wanted
Speaker 1: to say to people we love, but we couldn't say
Speaker 1: it in a certain way. So they said, we're just
Speaker 1: giving your book to them. I said, man, that's that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Yeah, because I didn't feel like there's
Speaker 1: nothing in your book that is any type of hatred
Speaker 1: towards white people, not at all. If anything, you're asking
Speaker 1: white America to use this privilege to combat to prejudice
Speaker 1: that we're see. That's that's beautifully put. Man, That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to ask them
Speaker 1: to peak beneath the veil, so to speak right. The
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz ain't who you think he is. So
Speaker 1: I'm asking white people to see whiteness as that artificial
Speaker 1: construction and get behind the curtain and then take off
Speaker 1: the burden of that whiteness, because that whiteness hurts white
Speaker 1: people as much, ironically enough, as it hurts black, brown, red,
Speaker 1: and yellow people too. Now we had a discussion about
Speaker 1: Adela and Beyonce up here. Man, I know you upset
Speaker 1: Beyonce lost Album of the Year because you dedicated your
Speaker 1: book to her. You know, you know I am. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, look, I love Adele. You know when
Speaker 1: I went to one of Beyonce's concerts, the one in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: because I went to three of them on this tour.
Speaker 1: You know, I got to hit multiple Beyonce concerts and
Speaker 1: you know I was up there with Adele's people. So
Speaker 1: I love Adele. I love what she represents. This is
Speaker 1: bigger than the individuals because it's clear that Beyonce and
Speaker 1: Adele have a special, significant, beautiful, affectionate relationship, and especially
Speaker 1: in public, two superstar women loving each other has a
Speaker 1: political consequence. You saw it some when you saw say,
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift, But it always gets complicated
Speaker 1: by the issue of race. Remember when Taylor thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Nicki was signifying on her about skinny women and you
Speaker 1: can't get recognized, and then Taylor went off on her
Speaker 1: and then she had to put her in check. It's
Speaker 1: always that tension, but with Adele and Beyonce, it's been
Speaker 1: a rather remarkable, kind of romantic in the best sense
Speaker 1: of that word, relationship between the two. Having said that,
Speaker 1: it was thievery pure and simple, and what it is
Speaker 1: to me in the era of Trump, it's the emergence
Speaker 1: of black genius up against white mediocrity. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Adele now, I'm talking about Donald Trump. Adele is
Speaker 1: a significant and great craftswoman. She's a songstress of the
Speaker 1: first order. You probably wouldn't have seen Beyonce start a
Speaker 1: song and then stop it because her yen for perfection
Speaker 1: is so deep, her preparation is so thorough, her respect
Speaker 1: for her craft is so incredible that when Steve Style
Speaker 1: came to my jay Z class at Georgetown, he said,
Speaker 1: the two hardest working people I've ever met in my
Speaker 1: life Kobe Bryant Beyonce. So we know her level of
Speaker 1: preparation is legendary and probably would have prevented something like
Speaker 1: that from occurring. But beyond that, as great as Adele is,
Speaker 1: she is not Beyonce. If we can't have a black
Speaker 1: woman who is the greatest entertainer in the world today,
Speaker 1: and not just on stage though that is the performer
Speaker 1: development is quite extraordinary. I'm talking about what she did
Speaker 1: with her music. You release an album like Lemonade the
Speaker 1: same way you did the previous album Beyonce a visual album.
Speaker 1: It comes with the batteries included. You've got every video
Speaker 1: right thought out. You've got not only that, the thematic
Speaker 1: consistency of that album there, then you've got what she's
Speaker 1: doing with her voice. People don't recognize Beyonce's genius in
Speaker 1: terms of fusing, singing, and rapping. I mean what she's
Speaker 1: done on those last two albums in Church, she could
Speaker 1: spit with the best of them. She could spit with
Speaker 1: her husband, and we know what a remarkable genius is.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying she doesn't get recognition for the craft
Speaker 1: of what she does. She doesn't get recognition as a
Speaker 1: woman or a Black woman, for the extraordinary time and
Speaker 1: effort she puts into what she does. It's like black athletes, Oh,
Speaker 1: you must be born that way, Lebron, you must have
Speaker 1: those skills kill but you got those skills, Serena Williams,
Speaker 1: You got those skills. No, that's hard work and genius,
Speaker 1: which is a devastating consequence. So for me, when I
Speaker 1: see Beyonce being denied, I'm asking, where is Kanye West
Speaker 1: when you need him? Where is Kanye to go up
Speaker 1: on stage and say slow down, hold up? We know
Speaker 1: that as good as Adele is, she did not deserve
Speaker 1: the double if you will double that she got winning
Speaker 1: the Big Three Awards twice, the only figure ever to
Speaker 1: do it in an era, much less in a year
Speaker 1: when Beyonce has unleashed her genius on the world. And
Speaker 1: not only did Beyonce do it sonically and thematically, she
Speaker 1: did it in terms of politics. She put on blasts
Speaker 1: those forces of white supremacy and other oblivion to black
Speaker 1: culture that would try to hurt us. And she represented
Speaker 1: in such a powerful way for black lives matter, insistence
Speaker 1: that our lives are significant and should be held in
Speaker 1: high regard. She did all of that, yes, though a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, while she's pregnant, leaning back in
Speaker 1: the chair, announcing the birth of her twins to come,
Speaker 1: and totally dominating the rhetorical, the majesty of the entertaining
Speaker 1: and the incredible art of what it means to make
Speaker 1: an album and to perform so at that level, Black
Speaker 1: genius will always be punished by white mediocrity. It will
Speaker 1: always be punished by In this case, excellence in white
Speaker 1: culture has to, in one sense go up against the
Speaker 1: extraordinary genius of black culture. Think about it. For instance,
Speaker 1: I love him too. When my man Kendrick Lamar should
Speaker 1: have won the album who ended up winning mc lamore. Now,
Speaker 1: McLamore is a great artist. McLamore is a conscientious great artist.
Speaker 1: McLamore is a conscientious white great artist who understands what's
Speaker 1: at stake. But what did he say? I know Kendrick
Speaker 1: Lamar deserved that. What did A Dell say? I know
Speaker 1: that I can't accept this. Though she took the award
Speaker 1: win her, she did not give that to Beyonce. She
Speaker 1: knew that she didn't deserve that. The same way when
Speaker 1: Kanye went up on that stage, and I happened to
Speaker 1: be there that night, I was there that night at
Speaker 1: the Video Music Awards when Kanye was went up on stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was he drunk? Maybe maybe so? But what was his point?
Speaker 1: Was it? Rude, of course, but what was his point?
Speaker 1: It was so righteous. His point was, I am tired
Speaker 1: of standing by seeing black genius unrewarded when we know
Speaker 1: the superior artist has been denied. I bet you, I
Speaker 1: bet you. Chuck Berry was at home going where was
Speaker 1: Kanye when I needed them? When they were giving my
Speaker 1: awards to Pat Boone, I bet you Little Richard was
Speaker 1: at home saying where were you when they were giving
Speaker 1: my awards to Elvis Presley? Elvis Presley undeniable genius himself,
Speaker 1: but not the originator of rock and roll and the
Speaker 1: ability to write the same way Chuck Berry was. And
Speaker 1: now Beyonce robbed in a serious way. And if the
Speaker 1: most recognizable Black woman, arguably on the globe, the most talented,
Speaker 1: the most ingenious, the most creative, can't get her due,
Speaker 1: this is symbolic of something bigger than an individual artist
Speaker 1: being snubbed. This is about the politics of race. This
Speaker 1: is about the politics of race and gender, and this
Speaker 1: is about the politics of blackness in an era of vast,
Speaker 1: unreachable white mediocrity that Donald Trump represents. All right, well,
Speaker 1: we had one with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back,
Speaker 1: keeping lois to Breakfast Club, Good Morning, Price of Planet.
Speaker 1: I go by the name of Charlomagne, the d Indian
Speaker 1: angela yet hit with the world most Dangerous morning show
Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club, and we have one of my guys,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on the planet, somebody I
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to. Nobody better to have on this Barack
Speaker 1: Obama did. We're not calling it President's Day, Okay, We're
Speaker 1: calling it Barack Obama Day because personally, I feel like
Speaker 1: we have nothing to be proud of when it comes
Speaker 1: to our current presidents. I guess we celebrate all the
Speaker 1: presidents before this one. But nobody better to have in
Speaker 1: the building than Michael Eric Dyson. Right now, you got
Speaker 1: a question to lions. Tweeted out, there have only been
Speaker 1: two black winners in the last twenty years for Album
Speaker 1: of the Year. There have been over two hundred black
Speaker 1: artists who have performed, right, That's what she tweeted out.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of other incidents that happened recently, like
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley that parents getting banned from the garden. The
Speaker 1: other same some time and in their future, we will
Speaker 1: be able to come out. But just even the way
Speaker 1: that they oh yeah, I mean him out the way again.
Speaker 1: Now we talk about putting in the work. When Charles,
Speaker 1: when Charles Oakley stepped on that court, and that's my generation.
Speaker 1: I saw that brother play. When Charles Oakley stepped on
Speaker 1: that court, he brought every fiber of energy, of work, ethic,
Speaker 1: of sweat, ethic that God gave him to bear for
Speaker 1: those owners for whom he played and the teammates that
Speaker 1: he loved and adored and embraced. You know, from whether
Speaker 1: he was playing with Scottie and Michael Jordan's Chicago and
Speaker 1: then coming into New York and transforming the work culture. Right,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a blue collar you know, a hat
Speaker 1: in his hand and a pail in his hand, workman.
Speaker 1: I mean, Charles Oakley was the ultimate enforcer, the ultimate muscle,
Speaker 1: and gave his all for the team. He's earned his
Speaker 1: right to be critical of mister Dolan. He's earned his
Speaker 1: right to be critical of other players who haven't stepped
Speaker 1: up to the plate. I mean, that's the nature again
Speaker 1: of black genius. When Lebron steps up, he's bringing the
Speaker 1: noise to everybody in the ruckis Michael Jordan was no
Speaker 1: walk through the park, Kobe Bryant, These men of genius
Speaker 1: or Serena Williams. This is no teeth of the fever.
Speaker 1: This is an extraordinary demand. So why then toss him
Speaker 1: a man out like that? Treat him like a common thug,
Speaker 1: chump him. And I'm gonna tell you what else gets
Speaker 1: revealed is that Phil Jackson as great as he was
Speaker 1: at one point, maybe revealing that you know, heck, you
Speaker 1: and I could have coached the Chicago Bulls or the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers if we had Kobe Bryant and Shack
Speaker 1: and if we had Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. Now
Speaker 1: your genius is being challenged. It looks like Gregg Popovich
Speaker 1: is a far more significant and serious coach and and
Speaker 1: and Phil Jackson looks like a petulant child. He's an
Speaker 1: appropriate kind of gem for New York in the age
Speaker 1: of Trump, because even though he doesn't offensibly share his politics,
Speaker 1: what he does share is a kind of narcissistic self engagement,
Speaker 1: trying to cover it over with his Zen spirituality when
Speaker 1: at the end of the day you end up being
Speaker 1: nothing more than a jerk and at and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Phil Jackson's inability to even acknowledge
Speaker 1: a Camerlo Carmelo Anthony. Now, you gave Anthony the dough
Speaker 1: and you gave him the ability not to be traded.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you acknowledge what
Speaker 1: he brought to the table, and now you want to
Speaker 1: just loud talk him. You want to make snide remarks
Speaker 1: and comments. I mean again, the inability to grapple with
Speaker 1: and recognize the significant contribution of even a so called
Speaker 1: complicated black people. Black people don't get allowed, aren't allowed
Speaker 1: to be complicated. Wife, get get get complicated. They're eccentric,
Speaker 1: their geniuses black people do it. You're a thug, You
Speaker 1: have no ability to fit in with the others. No,
Speaker 1: I'm coloring outside the lines because my name is Picasso.
Speaker 1: So now they don't recognize our genius and then shunting
Speaker 1: us off as a pathological expression of things they want
Speaker 1: to throw away. In Charles Barkley, Charles Oakley got played
Speaker 1: the same way. Now, I felt like Adele missed the moment.
Speaker 1: And know how we talk about how you can use
Speaker 1: your privilege to combat prejudice, like when she said the
Speaker 1: whole thing about Beyonce's music makes my black friends feel
Speaker 1: like they can stand up for themselves. I felt like
Speaker 1: she should have said, Beyonce's music makes me want to
Speaker 1: stand up for black people. Friends. There it is, there,
Speaker 1: it is. That's a brilliant point, because the ultimate active
Speaker 1: white privilege is to share it as much as you can,
Speaker 1: to deconstruct it, to to unmask it, and to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't deserve it, so so standing there,
Speaker 1: she might have said that. She might have said, we
Speaker 1: all know that as much as I love you and
Speaker 1: appreciate you for recognizing me and what I've been through,
Speaker 1: we all know that this black woman sitting before me
Speaker 1: is the greatest, the greatest entertaining and if you will,
Speaker 1: esthetic and melodic and harmonic and musical presence on the
Speaker 1: globe right now. And we should all defer to her
Speaker 1: and recognize that. And if the award committee doesn't do it,
Speaker 1: I will hear Beyonce, let me give this to you.
Speaker 1: You are the woman who deserves it. No, she doesn't
Speaker 1: have that kind of grace or that kind of acknowledgement
Speaker 1: that her own privilege has to exist only at the
Speaker 1: expense of Beyonce. And this is what a lot of
Speaker 1: white folk don't understand. The white privilege you enjoy exists
Speaker 1: at the expense of somebody else being denied At that level,
Speaker 1: it is a zero some game. White privilege exists only
Speaker 1: because white folk didn't have to compete with the best
Speaker 1: of their genre. Right. Think about it, Babe, Ruth didn't
Speaker 1: compete against the greatest ball players. He competed to it's
Speaker 1: the greatest white ballplayers, right. I mean, you're right. And
Speaker 1: when white folk got into Harvard, before they started integrating it,
Speaker 1: you ain't competing against the smartest people. You're competing against
Speaker 1: the smartest white people. God knows you weren't competing against
Speaker 1: the smartest Latino or Asian people. In fact, they got
Speaker 1: a basic, you know, moratorium on the entry of certain
Speaker 1: Asians out in California, a quota if you will, former
Speaker 1: or not, where they limit the number of Asian brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters who were get in school because it was
Speaker 1: killing the numbers of white folk. As long as white
Speaker 1: folk were getting in there were black and brown people
Speaker 1: weren't no problem. I'm sorry. It's about a meritocracy, and
Speaker 1: merit determines the distribution of goods like employment or getting
Speaker 1: a seat in school. But when the Asians started whipping
Speaker 1: that white ass, all of a sudden it became a problem.
Speaker 1: The quota got enforced formally or informally, and now white
Speaker 1: competition with others who can beat them is regulated. So
Speaker 1: my point is, from the very beginning, white folk have
Speaker 1: been treated to an extraordinary level of privilege, and part
Speaker 1: of that privileged mean I don't have to face the
Speaker 1: best and the brightest. What you don't understand is that
Speaker 1: whiteness is built in with the ability to rig the
Speaker 1: competition in favor of the white guy. That's why Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's presidency is so apropos and this is why a
Speaker 1: lot of white people don't want to recognize it's not
Speaker 1: simply about a crypto fascist creep in America. It's not
Speaker 1: about the denial of democracy. It's all that, But it's
Speaker 1: also about the fact that a mediocre white boy is
Speaker 1: occupying the most powerful position in the world and he
Speaker 1: is manifestly inferior and then capable of manning up or
Speaker 1: intellectualing up to be able to fit the office for
Speaker 1: which she has been elected. You know, my whole thing
Speaker 1: with that is is what about if she really didn't
Speaker 1: feel that way? Well, what about it if she felt that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you made my black friends stand up and she didn't
Speaker 1: get that necessary feeling. I feel like sometimes we look
Speaker 1: for acceptance of people that we necessarily don't need acceptance from.
Speaker 1: That's true, I mean, but I thought that Charlemagne's point
Speaker 1: was she missed an opportunity to do so. But your
Speaker 1: point of people that way, well, that even more reinforces
Speaker 1: our point about her white privilege, because at least if
Speaker 1: she's conscious of it and doesn't make the gesture to
Speaker 1: unmask that privilege, that's one thing. But she's conscious of it,
Speaker 1: because we know she's conscious, because she's trying to fumble
Speaker 1: toward it makes my black friends, she's she's trying to
Speaker 1: get in that arena. She's in the arena, and in
Speaker 1: the she and in the section we're sitting in. She
Speaker 1: and in the VIP. But she in the arena, She
Speaker 1: in the arena. Your point is, what about she't even
Speaker 1: in arena? What about she doesn't feel that way? And
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's part and parceible. That's the usual response,
Speaker 1: right if if she's not that's what white brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters usually possessed, that is no recognition at all. You
Speaker 1: talk to most white people about white privilege, the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about right, I get I get emails,
Speaker 1: hate emails from white people. The hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have any white privilege. I was poor,
Speaker 1: You got more white, you got more privileges. Job right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And again they don't recognize right when they say, well,
Speaker 1: it's the white working class. We have to work. The
Speaker 1: white working class got protected too. How it kept out
Speaker 1: black people from unions, pipe fittersers. The white working class
Speaker 1: rigged the competition for themselves. When you were taking a
Speaker 1: test for a policeman or a fireman, you were given
Speaker 1: the hookup from within. On nine eleven. As tragic as
Speaker 1: that day was, why did most of the people who
Speaker 1: perished officially as firemen or policemen? Why were they white?
Speaker 1: Because it reflected the deep lack of diversity and the
Speaker 1: hookup that white people have among certain unions, certain jobs
Speaker 1: and outfits. Just like you go to DC the parking people,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be easy open Ama sagalo. That's
Speaker 1: what it's going to be because they've been able to
Speaker 1: hone in on and horn in on that particular if
Speaker 1: you will, industry and allow it to share it with
Speaker 1: others of their people who come over here. So I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, white brothers have had the hookup, white sisters
Speaker 1: have had the hookup from the get go. So it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising to me that if Adell didn't understand
Speaker 1: that didn't feel that felt that, hey, it makes those
Speaker 1: people feel better, but I still earned what I got.
Speaker 1: That would be characteristic of most white people who are unawoke,
Speaker 1: who are unaware, who are unconscious of that privilege, and
Speaker 1: when they step up to me. As I said before,
Speaker 1: the greatest privilege of a white person can have is
Speaker 1: to encounter a policeman on the street, and in the
Speaker 1: nasty freakis that might result from that, you live to
Speaker 1: tell the story about it. That is the ultimate form
Speaker 1: of white privilege. And then they've got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with how much money you got, where your zip code is,
Speaker 1: or who your mom and daddy are. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We have more Michael Eric Dyson coming up next. It's
Speaker 1: the world Most Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club. The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. That's right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 1: We have a special guest in the building, Michael Eric Dyson.
Speaker 1: We've been discussing this notion of privilege. We have, Malcolm
Speaker 1: Gladwell love here. Do you think privilege is something only
Speaker 1: white people have? Absolutely not. I mean I have privilege.
Speaker 1: You have privilege. You have privilege as a male right.
Speaker 1: Because one of the untold stories is look, not only
Speaker 1: is Beyonce up against a legacy of inequity that is
Speaker 1: driven by supremacy, she's up against male supremacy too. In fact,
Speaker 1: she's up against a legacy of male supremacy and misogyny
Speaker 1: expressed by black men. Black men who are participated in
Speaker 1: calling women bitches and holes and skeezers and sluts and
Speaker 1: hood rats and chicken heads, who think of it as
Speaker 1: the expression of you know, my own ability to be
Speaker 1: liberated and emancipated to tell the truth about women. You unconscious, unwoke, negrow.
Speaker 1: What you're doing is perpetuating a legacy of patriarchy, which
Speaker 1: is the belief that men's lives should determine the legitimate
Speaker 1: forms of social existence, of misogyny which is the hatred
Speaker 1: of women, or sexism, which is the belief that our
Speaker 1: inclinations as men should set the baseline for what we
Speaker 1: think is legitimate. We have practiced that too. Of course,
Speaker 1: we have male privilege. We have male privilege when it
Speaker 1: comes to black women, right, is a tremendous double standard.
Speaker 1: But black women have done more to protect black men
Speaker 1: than any other group in America, including black men. Black
Speaker 1: women have been on the cutting edge and on the
Speaker 1: front line, standing up from us for us. I to
Speaker 1: b Wells, Nanny, Helen Burrows, sept Mclark, Joanne Robinson, Ella Baker,
Speaker 1: Angela Davis, Mama, Yo, yo, mamma. But this is what
Speaker 1: black men do. Love my mama, right, So we got
Speaker 1: the vertical right, but the horizontals jacked up. Hate my
Speaker 1: baby mama. Well, dude, your baby mama. It's somebody else's mama, yo,
Speaker 1: child's mama. So their adoration and reverence you have for
Speaker 1: your mother should be extended to your baby mother. Now
Speaker 1: we know that there's tremitt decision and we know it's
Speaker 1: back and forth, but the inability to recognize the fact
Speaker 1: that we have male privileged and a significant and serious
Speaker 1: fashion is a former privilege. We got class privilege too.
Speaker 1: If you've got more money than the next person over here,
Speaker 1: you don't have the same experience of blackness as a
Speaker 1: person working on the line, and the person on the
Speaker 1: line doesn't have the same experience of blackness as the
Speaker 1: person who's homeless. So there are always gradations and degrees
Speaker 1: of difference. But of course we have privilege. We have privileges.
Speaker 1: Christians in a nation that demonizes Muslim people, Right, we
Speaker 1: go around and we look, Look, it ain't no problem
Speaker 1: if Tim Tebow takes a knee on the ground. It's
Speaker 1: a problem if one of the Muslim players, you know,
Speaker 1: prayed six times or in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: all praises due to a lie, that would be a problem.
Speaker 1: So the unconscious reproduction of privilege on multiple levels. One
Speaker 1: is religious, one is class, one is gender and sexual orientation.
Speaker 1: Think about it. We live in a world people say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind you know, gay people being gay,
Speaker 1: but why are you doing in front of my face?
Speaker 1: Now that's a million people out there kissing who are
Speaker 1: hedo sexual. You ain't got no problem with. But you
Speaker 1: got a problem with a gay, lesbian, transgender by sexual
Speaker 1: queer person showing their affections. So yeah, there's all kind
Speaker 1: of privilege that we have. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: under Trump, black people have to recognize we don't have
Speaker 1: the luxury or leisure to nurture in the bosom of
Speaker 1: our culture of bigotry doing somebody else like you know.
Speaker 1: I'm a preacher too, I'm an ordained Baptist minister. I've
Speaker 1: been doing that for thirty seven years. I ain't been
Speaker 1: to no Black church to turn down gay tis all
Speaker 1: this homophobia, But they ain't cutting off the duct. They
Speaker 1: ain't saying, excuse me, because of our beliefs theologically, we
Speaker 1: will not receive your job. Hell no, they're taking all
Speaker 1: that money from gay lesbon, transgender, bisexual, queer people, and
Speaker 1: they ain't kicking them out the choir. I ain't seen
Speaker 1: no Black church that you cannot sing up in this
Speaker 1: quiet because it wouldn't be no good music and quiet
Speaker 1: as it's kept. A lot of gay people are secretly
Speaker 1: gay preaching in the pulpit, that's a fact. Some of
Speaker 1: them are preaching homophobic sermons against gay people because they
Speaker 1: are secretly gay themselves, trying to forge connection with heterosexual
Speaker 1: people to to to deflect any suspicion of them themselves.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they are all kinds of privileges that operate
Speaker 1: even when you are oppressed, you can to be an
Speaker 1: oppressor at the same time. My final question, mister dayson like, um,
Speaker 1: they hear us on this radio and they hear us
Speaker 1: talking all of this black stuff and pro black stuff.
Speaker 1: Could you please let them know that that don't mean
Speaker 1: we hate white people, not at all. I mean, isn't
Speaker 1: this what Tina Lawson, you know, Tina Knows Lawson said
Speaker 1: on her daughter's album or Set at the Table. She said,
Speaker 1: why is it that if I say I love black people,
Speaker 1: you think I hate white people. We don't hate white folks.
Speaker 1: In fact, an argument can be made white black people
Speaker 1: love white people too much. Right, we love white people
Speaker 1: too much. We all hate y'all. We love y'all. We
Speaker 1: want to be like y'all. We want to do our
Speaker 1: hair the same way you do. And I'm not saying, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about black people with straight hair, because
Speaker 1: Africans did that. Africans experimented with their noses, their lips,
Speaker 1: put rings and hoops with their hair. I think that's
Speaker 1: a that's an African thing to experiment what your hair,
Speaker 1: to experiment what your body. That's a beautiful improvisational ethic
Speaker 1: at the heart of our own African centered identity. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the end of the day that
Speaker 1: don't mean that we hate white people. We have learned
Speaker 1: to think white right, white believe white, embrace whiteness as
Speaker 1: the norm. So it's not that we hate white. We
Speaker 1: love it too much. What we've got to do is
Speaker 1: to learn to love ourselves. And loving ourselves doesn't mean
Speaker 1: we hate you. It's not a zero something game. Look,
Speaker 1: if I like, if I like Shanique, what don't mean
Speaker 1: I hate Becky. It means that Becky has been acknowledged.
Speaker 1: Becky with the good hair done, got love from the birth,
Speaker 1: from the crib, from the cradle. But Shanique, what has
Speaker 1: been told that she's not beautiful? And the irony is
Speaker 1: once we begin to embrace ourselves and you love yourself,
Speaker 1: you don't hate nobody because you're so secure in who
Speaker 1: you are. You know that what you represent it's so powerful,
Speaker 1: so beautiful, so edifying, so uplifting. You ain't got to
Speaker 1: hate nobody else. So when you speak about black love
Speaker 1: and black self love, that's the most revolutionary radical thing
Speaker 1: in the world, is to love one's own self and
Speaker 1: to love one's own group. But white brothers and sisters
Speaker 1: don't get mad. You love your children, you love your
Speaker 1: particular tribes, you love the names you give them. We
Speaker 1: don't think that you hate us, but you are often
Speaker 1: indifferent to us. You are oblivious to us. We just
Speaker 1: don't matter. As as the great ethicist said, the opposite
Speaker 1: of love is not hate, it's difference. It's one I
Speaker 1: don't I don't make a difference to you. You don't
Speaker 1: even care about me, as those black people say, you
Speaker 1: ain't even stutting me. So once we learn to love ourselves,
Speaker 1: all the pathologies that you think are out there White America,
Speaker 1: that are in our community will be reduced. All of
Speaker 1: the suffering that you think we bear, the traumas that
Speaker 1: we impose, can be significantly assuaged or at least reduced
Speaker 1: or ameliorated, and it is made better. And another thing,
Speaker 1: I'm using them words because I want you to look
Speaker 1: them up. I'm using them words because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: people in circles that you don't have access to use
Speaker 1: them against you. And I want young black people to
Speaker 1: use these words, to know what a dictionary is, to
Speaker 1: know what a thesaurus is. To use those words not
Speaker 1: to impress anybody, not to obscure knowledge, but because in
Speaker 1: circles you don't have access to in higher education, and
Speaker 1: in government and in employment. They are using such terms
Speaker 1: to demonize you and put you into a box. Never
Speaker 1: be afraid of a word. Challenge it, Learn it every day.
Speaker 1: So I challenge you all out there, learn a new
Speaker 1: word every day. Self love means learning, means unapologetically embracing
Speaker 1: knowledge means unapologetically embracing your own culture. White folks, we
Speaker 1: don't hate you. We love you just fine. But we
Speaker 1: got to learn to love ourselves even more. And you
Speaker 1: who have benefited from the lack of black self love,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be intimidated by Finally, the most revolutionary thing we
Speaker 1: do is to tell each other I love you. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of love we got to have for our people.
Speaker 1: Michael Ary Dyson's word today or tis worded today? Either way,
Speaker 1: you learned in a new word. Okay, Michael Eric Dyson.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us. Always good to be
Speaker 1: on here. Thank y'all for having me on. All right,
Speaker 1: it's a breakfast love glory.