WEBVTT - Mack Wilds + Michael Eric Dydon Interview + More

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty percent. Right year, I love you fifty percent. Rat

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down. Would come to the most prominent form

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Wait your ass something early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>But they tell me what was y'all? I said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, I'm getting the smoke choice morning show. Few

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<v Speaker 1>people's choice. Let's see. I got you all my made people.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe if you guys are the basket? Did

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<v Speaker 1>we know this? Breakfast club? Hey? Yo, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>man rapper. Good morning, your friend. I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>why man. I'm gonna tell you why man? For real? Man? Hey, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>my girl keep coming home smelling like paul O colog

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<v Speaker 1>so like like that ain't for girls like I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's going on for real, like like like like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm heated about that and now I need you try

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me why you are? Man? Why are you mad?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the breakfast club? For real? Hello? Who's this? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>This is miss JR. Hey dj VY, how you doing

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<v Speaker 1>this morning? What's something? I'm gonna tell them? Why you mad? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm because of the water or to hit you on

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<v Speaker 1>instagra yesterday and gave you the address. Yeah, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>all the addresses. I appreciate that. Oh oh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys doing this morning? Give us every point

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<v Speaker 1>from Flint. Let us know what's good over there? How

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<v Speaker 1>bad is it down there? Oh? It's bad. It's super bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to the point where they want to see

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<v Speaker 1>Snyder locked up and he should be locked up absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you washing though? How you washing that? As

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<v Speaker 1>boiling the water? The water? Now, I know they said

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<v Speaker 1>any water, filters and some wipes. What else do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys need? Um, that's pretty much it. And a and

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing the God to get it through everything. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. Okay, Yeah, we are at the question

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<v Speaker 1>when you boil the water to the turn claim, yeah gus, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know me, I put a little vinegary in

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<v Speaker 1>my water anyhow, and you know what, that vinegar gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep that poom poom tight and fresh, you know by

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<v Speaker 1>that forever? Thank you, Mama. We'll pay for you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>paying for you, guys and playing it for you, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? Hello? Who's this Detroit truck driver? What's up up? Drive? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them like mad? What's going on? Man? Mad? This

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<v Speaker 1>my second time? Man? You know, I wake up this

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<v Speaker 1>morning to get again. I put my girl back and

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<v Speaker 1>she pushed me off. So you know what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I get my ass up and get back in the

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<v Speaker 1>truck and hit the road again and searlo man crof

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<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom to not work. It didn't work, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you should have put it right. But do you ever? Yes, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we go ahead and put in any time some much's back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good enough, But I'm just shoving them off

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<v Speaker 1>next time. That might be. Still got to get content

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<v Speaker 1>from your wife for a girl or whatever she is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's sleeping. Hey, it's my own, my consent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. On drink, don't be that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you speak with you anymore. That's right. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this Yolet's Rick from day Rick tell him? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you man? Yeo? Man? So I'm tired of this whole

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<v Speaker 1>mum rever lorical rep debate. It's getting played out in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinions. Who cares bro Like? I'm from the South,

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<v Speaker 1>so they always fronted on the South. So who cares

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<v Speaker 1>a damn like? I saw a documentary on Noisy saying

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<v Speaker 1>that I love God. He doesn't drink or he doesn't smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't for the kids. Whereas where I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, I was listening on the lyrical rapper like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a gangster because I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to these kids just want to have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, I mean, that's better for the community.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I think you got a lot of variety.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand what you're saying, but you got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of variety now for every little YADDI it's a big sean.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying here, Like it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a variety for everybody. I agree. Hello, who's this yo?

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast club? Yeah, y'all, I love these guys. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say that. And it's five or six

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<v Speaker 1>clocks in worry about anyway. I'm not mad. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell y'all that I just had my first

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<v Speaker 1>night as a dance sir, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all about my name. Tell us what happened, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Hold hold hold up. Next is why you're blessed? And

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<v Speaker 1>right now you say I'm blessed, all right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on one second? Up, baby, seem all

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<v Speaker 1>night my dance. Her name is Holiday, all right? Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on Holiday, don't go anywhere. Up next is tell them

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<v Speaker 1>why you blessed? Eight hundred five eighty five one oh

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<v Speaker 1>five one. We have a young lady on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>that feels blessed. Yesterday was her first day, first day

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<v Speaker 1>as a script. I gonna find out all about it

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. Keep it locked. Eight hundred five

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five one on five one, Blessings on, blessings on, blessings?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you blessed? In highly favorite? I feel blessed? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>the congregation at eight hundred five eighty five one five one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the breakfast club. Now we have Holiday on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>That is her strip of name. Last night was her

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<v Speaker 1>first night in the strip club. She feels blessed. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's about it Holiday, all right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I may thank for my first night. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what's fact, but I'm in Miami, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>About it? All right? What club you at first? I

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<v Speaker 1>was at one. I don't want to give my location

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<v Speaker 1>out because okay, you don't have to do that. She

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<v Speaker 1>just started. He just started, all right, what's your dancer name? Holiday?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, Okay, how much did you make last night?

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<v Speaker 1>I need six hundred good holiday. Well, it was really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like I was in a black club because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm black of forest anyway, Um, I was in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was popping in shaking it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked the lifestyle because you know, I got what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted for the rest of the night and I

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<v Speaker 1>just left. How old are you? How old are you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday's at the end of the month. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty four. Okay. I just want you to know

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<v Speaker 1>last night was Beginning's luck and it's all downhill from here.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a lot of six hundred dollars knights, more

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars nights. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're here now that's good. And that's good for a

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night too. Oh guy, it is Wednesday, y'all. I'm popping.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question. Are you good at

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<v Speaker 1>doing like tricks and stuff like that or do you

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<v Speaker 1>just walk around? I can't No, I don't do pol tricks.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked around, but I met this guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>club ready to hook me up, Like classes start, So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you practice me? How do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>I practice. What do you need? Awker of work in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror? Like it was kind of like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like you just take your clothes off. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to learn some politics too, the but

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<v Speaker 1>you can always up the annie. Whatever you do, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do be great at it. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>share your Instagram with a married man? You know? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you said it, I didn't. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>share your yo? I can't believe that. I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast cover to you guys all time, and what a

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<v Speaker 1>great night last night, great morning, no question that. What

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<v Speaker 1>got you in the shipping? Would your dad in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it financial hardship? Like? What got you in the shipping?

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<v Speaker 1>You got? My dad's definitely in my life and he's

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<v Speaker 1>alive all time. And what are you going on? I

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<v Speaker 1>like dancing and it's just financial harshness. Like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going through a lot and I need fast money because

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<v Speaker 1>like I have goals on my Listen, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>knock off right now and it cost money. Okay, bless you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a legal job for it. What can I have

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<v Speaker 1>five kids and I'm making sure my daughters ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on and you're married. No, she wants me to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it, like have kids. I'm married and I

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<v Speaker 1>got my own kids. Then let me ask you a question. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody came up with you and offered you a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars maybe for some Felacia, would you have done

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<v Speaker 1>it last night? No, because I like I hook up

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<v Speaker 1>with people that I actually care about, because that's like

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<v Speaker 1>like sentimental god for money. It was yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just dancing, you know, like I just had a good time,

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<v Speaker 1>like and I was drinking, like judgment. So you're always

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<v Speaker 1>in the ship. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>boyd I'm bored at this phone call already. So that

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<v Speaker 1>means she's just having a good time. She's dancing. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to have a relationship with one of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the club. I'm sure that's how you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the script club too. I see you at first,

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<v Speaker 1>throw a couple of dollars like I'm bored. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>next woman that can we go to? Huh? Yeah, that's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, Charlotyne. You'll see me later on because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing big things breakfast clubs, all right, Holiday you continue

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<v Speaker 1>to be blessed. Okay, thank you, y'all, be blessed. Five.

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<v Speaker 1>I love y'all. All right, I'll be careful. Please. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take drinks with men unless you see the drink

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<v Speaker 1>actually come from the bartend to be extra careful out

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<v Speaker 1>there because men creeps and perverts, so please trying to

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<v Speaker 1>cover with screens. No, no, right, thank you. M's right.

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<v Speaker 1>There are women. There are a lot of creep Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, there are a lot of creeps out there,

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<v Speaker 1>like seriously. That's right, she's twenty four. Mind, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>tell her, tell her all the basics. Just be careful

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<v Speaker 1>out there, all right. Look both waiting before you cross

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<v Speaker 1>the street as well. Okay you all right? Shout the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>She's blessed. Last day was her first night at the

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<v Speaker 1>strip club. All right, the breakfast club? Are you blessing?

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<v Speaker 1>Highly favored? I feel blessed. Tell the congregation at eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five eighty five one old I have one

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<v Speaker 1>gets the Breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Yo? What up? Envy?

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the club, y'all, what's up? Bro? You

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<v Speaker 1>feel blessed this morning? Bro? Yo, man, I'm blessed because

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<v Speaker 1>my son is an all star deiece as a lineman

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<v Speaker 1>and a big non high school he getting the three

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<v Speaker 1>point nine. My girl doing good at work. My family

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy, and every day I get to wake up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to wake up and enjoy it as a father,

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<v Speaker 1>not a dad. That's very important. A lot of daddies

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<v Speaker 1>are here, not enough fathers. Hello. Who's this? This is Trapt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Hey? Good morning? You're feeling blessed this morning, Mamma. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling super blessed in the good morning shouting man.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just wanted to call in this morning and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you guys that I am truly blessed. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my life going in the right direction. I'm focused on

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<v Speaker 1>my kids right now. I just went through a horrible breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>but my kids father, so it's just a blessing for

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<v Speaker 1>me to be folks. And I got good news that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm eligible to buy the house that I live in. Yeah, okay, okay, congratulation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I live in Warren, Michigan. You know, I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>here where this Warren m Mayor had called us chimpantees

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So even through it all, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to stay focused and be blessed. And think

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<v Speaker 1>about my kids and my finances. So I'm truly blessed

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<v Speaker 1>that through the breakup I found the Lord. I found

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<v Speaker 1>them even more than I found them before. I'm attending

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<v Speaker 1>church every Sunday and it's just a really positive thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to just stay on track. Hello. Who's this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Kim, Kim feeling blessed this morning? Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>am tell us why, Kim. I'm blessed because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a roof over my head, breath in my body, food

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<v Speaker 1>on my table, a husband who loves me unconditionally, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am amazing, a little three year olds, fun and

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<v Speaker 1>I loving family. There you go, baby, you just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that breath in your body is fresh to morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you brushed your teeth? Oh? The hallelujah God, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a good morning, Mama. There you have it. Blessings on,

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<v Speaker 1>blessings on, blessings, all the blessing highly favored people out

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<v Speaker 1>there who ain't worried about nothing. Hey, Charlomagne and God,

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<v Speaker 1>here the prime Minister of pissing people off. You all

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the world most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>Club and now listen tonight on v H one is

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show premiere and now we all watched this

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<v Speaker 1>movie as a family. The movie was called The Break

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<v Speaker 1>to Start Mac Wilds. Methi Man was Mac Wild's father.

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<v Speaker 1>We all sat around and watched this movie as a family,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it was over, we all was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really just how it's going to end, Like like that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could tell the way it ended that it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to turn into a series, and it did.

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<v Speaker 1>The series premiere is tonight at nine h Central only

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<v Speaker 1>on VH one. It's a story about hustle, hope, making

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<v Speaker 1>your mark. You know, in order to change the world,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to change the game. It's got Wood Harris

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<v Speaker 1>on there. It's just a really dope show and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope this series does the movie justice. I know where

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<v Speaker 1>I will be at tonight at nine o'clock, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>watching VH one because The Breaks will be on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's watch as a family, shall we. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on like episode three or four The Breaks

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<v Speaker 1>this season. But it premiers tonight all right on H one,

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<v Speaker 1>nine eighth Central, and the Start to show Mac Wilds

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<v Speaker 1>will be here next on the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is DJ n Vy Angela yee, Charlomagne the god. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. That's right, yeah Mac wild Wait, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little nervous right now. She got a whole which whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's where did you hear at? Its? Like

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets they don't call him Mac Wilds for nothing. Okay, Like, hey, ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>I used my hand, I don't use whips. Crazy. Now

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<v Speaker 1>when the guys get out of line, they talk crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so let's talk on them. Yeah, that's not even

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<v Speaker 1>right now for a break coming back to twentieth Yes man,

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<v Speaker 1>yes man, it's it's great. It seems like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a while since the movie. Yeah, just a whole yeah

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, we gotta, we gotta. VH one actually

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<v Speaker 1>trusted us with doing the whole season of it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels good if it feels really really dope, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we we we actually got a chance, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with Dan Charners and a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>dope writers, you know, seek Man, Homegirl Jazz and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other dope writers and Jazz Fly Fly yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and create what what we what we went through?

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<v Speaker 1>You know in the nineties, well what they went through,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little older than you work with some new actors.

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<v Speaker 1>When this time around they got a new cast, a

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<v Speaker 1>few new people, new people. My boy sin Qua s

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<v Speaker 1>you know sin Qua, he's a but he's dope, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's I think I think all around all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is that we got this year. They've just added on

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<v Speaker 1>to what we we've already done. Uh, it really hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>taken anything away. And plus we kept a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who's who's been on the first movie. So Ti

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<v Speaker 1>is on there playing a lawyer. He was Manna Tellor,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my sister. It's dope. What Harris is on

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<v Speaker 1>there too? Yeah, of course with Harris, he's he's back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's back. He's back. In fact, he's dope. He's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that work because you're doing the show on he's

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<v Speaker 1>on it too on the episode I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>episode though, episode Like, okay, that's good. What's doing he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's a judge. I believe he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>host like Ale Oh yeah, host of a DJ battle

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<v Speaker 1>type cast. Absolutely, yeah, but it took a long from

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<v Speaker 1>the film though. Yeah, that racist. I don't think racist

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<v Speaker 1>is the term racist action? You win? I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember now, CAMERAZONI remember, remember what does our host from?

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<v Speaker 1>A DJ? Uh? What is like a DJ battle host?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you gotta be like, yes, yes, y'all clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me hear your screen. Helos he knows you know

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<v Speaker 1>he was back in the day. We got to clean.

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<v Speaker 1>You got mixa. I think, I do. I think, I actually, Cassette,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because I know it's different when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a movie than when you have a series. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing, we really didn't share too too far

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<v Speaker 1>away from what we actually were. What we started with,

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<v Speaker 1>we expanded on it. So rather than just starting with

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<v Speaker 1>the three kids who got out of college and went

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<v Speaker 1>to New York to figure out their lives and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go into hip hop and figure out what that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to see deeper and you see what hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop really was at the time, how gritty it was,

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<v Speaker 1>how dirty it was, how you like, how much how

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<v Speaker 1>much in the streets it was, and how it been

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<v Speaker 1>how it turned into what it is today. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things, all of the things that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you know. Reading Dan Charner's book, it just

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<v Speaker 1>lets you know, like page by page, like date by date.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy and it good for a guy like yourself

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<v Speaker 1>because if you listen to your first album, you did

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<v Speaker 1>sample a lot of older stuff. I guess being on

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<v Speaker 1>the brakes did you learn more and get into it

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<v Speaker 1>with more new music and thinks you didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>like on me use that it was? It was, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>It was more so just uh. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where I was I was as a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of hip hop. I became more of a fan because

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<v Speaker 1>I understood more of where it came from, especially growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Staples, in the projects and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like seeing how it literally came from the kids that

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<v Speaker 1>grew up just like me, you know, like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up watching mess a Man and all of

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<v Speaker 1>them do it, they were like gods to us, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. I don't think it resonated to all of

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<v Speaker 1>us that they grew up exactly how we grew up

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<v Speaker 1>the same, the same things that we grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>the same roaches and rats. Even though they spoke about it,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really understand it. But now with with this

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<v Speaker 1>show and seeing it, like being in it, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a whole other. Respect for everything that they did,

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<v Speaker 1>but these superheroes came from somewhere. Yeah, it makes some human.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you recorded again? Have you recorded new music? Stopping?

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<v Speaker 1>You've been a whole year, you ain't heard of record?

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<v Speaker 1>But but I definitely, I definitely have been recorded. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have been recording. We have a we have a

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<v Speaker 1>project coming out very soon. It's hard to call it

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<v Speaker 1>just a music project because there's so many fastests to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you know that, now that I've taken so

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<v Speaker 1>much time, I feel like every time we finished something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh nah, it's been so long, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to add something else to it. So we add something

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<v Speaker 1>else to it, and not even just the music side

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Like there's different aspects to it now, like

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<v Speaker 1>different fastests to it. So it's a whole experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>how that. So you're doing the Fox Show shot fire? Yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a regular? Yes, sir, Jesus Christ? And you

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<v Speaker 1>still got time for the brakes they want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate them checks. How did that work though? God? Yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 1>you got time. You know what, if you got twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours in a day and seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make time bro, it's as simple as that, man, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the album's never coming out there that album, that

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<v Speaker 1>album is definitely coming out, and it's coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>the wave of everything else. So just it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure and about still be in these streets, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, he still finds time to be be out

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<v Speaker 1>and about. I just started getting back out and about

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<v Speaker 1>man like it was. It was, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time because again I was working on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, with with being back home and everything, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, man, like you have you haven't touched

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<v Speaker 1>the streets in a minute, man, So yeah, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>good to be back home and and and seeing everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the people. Hey, we got morel with

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Wives coming up next. Make sure you check out

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<v Speaker 1>The Breaks on VH one tonight at nine pm. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the World Most Dangerous Morning for the Breakfast Club, The

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club. Is it just me? Are you listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the World Most Dangerous Morning shor the Breakfast Club? I

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<v Speaker 1>go by the name of Charlemagne and God and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Mac Wives and Vach one of the Breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>which premiers tonight at nine eighth Central. Lathan, how was

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<v Speaker 1>that working with that beautiful. Just amazing. God, yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing man, honestly, son I besides just being one of

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<v Speaker 1>of the top most beautiful women in the world, she

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<v Speaker 1>is literally probably one of the women one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that I've learned the most from acting wise, just

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<v Speaker 1>career wise in a while, man like like to understand

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<v Speaker 1>how much she gives to her craft and being on

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<v Speaker 1>set with her and just studying her and me and

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<v Speaker 1>her just having conversations and her teaching me even before that,

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<v Speaker 1>like because I was I met her through her dad, Stanley,

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<v Speaker 1>So even understanding like just the ideas in the minds,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that her mind works. It's amazing. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>let her friends on you or did you like keep

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<v Speaker 1>your going to table so to speak? I listen, I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mix business and pleasure. So Maxine is way

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<v Speaker 1>too respectful. Don't let a little brother you though, just

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<v Speaker 1>keep it open my little brother, Mack. You know, But

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<v Speaker 1>how to say that that's awesome, that's not a little

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<v Speaker 1>better than Mac Wilds? I agree, I agree, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I'm not mad at the little brother,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not mad at what you're saying. Between that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to choose one in a jazz video, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Mask or Beyonce. If you had to choose one, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be a hard decision. I'm just who I'm asking what

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<v Speaker 1>we had even adult pick. It's true. I mean, Beyonce

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<v Speaker 1>is Beyonce bro Like everybody understands what she is and

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<v Speaker 1>what she does for our culture, and how and how

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<v Speaker 1>strong of a figure she is in our in our society.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's kind of undeniable, like she's indelible in

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<v Speaker 1>our in everything that we do as a as a society.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to do a collaboration, You're pick to do a

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration with Beyonce over a Oh, I'm I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a song with both of them at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>You were you shot that A Dell had one album

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<v Speaker 1>of the year over because I mean, when you hear Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta think of yourself a lot, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you when over over Lemonade, Uh, I think everybody was shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think with all was shocked. You saw her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was um Lemonade was of course it didn't sell

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<v Speaker 1>as much as as Adell did, but just understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>Lemonade was, it was it was bigger than the music, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the artist that we've seen in every shaping form.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen her through Destiny, Stid, We've seen her through everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then for her to show and shed this this

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<v Speaker 1>part of her that we were expecting to stay elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. I was using you as an example all

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<v Speaker 1>week because people were saying, well, it doesn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>about racial relations I'm like when she had Mac and

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<v Speaker 1>her video and it was supposed to be about an

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<v Speaker 1>interracial relations relationship, because they're like, oh, she's from the UK,

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>so she don't know about relations racial relations in America.

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<v Speaker 1>So she didn't mean anything about it back. You can't,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't say that. I would say, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say one thing about her, dell Man, she is

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<v Speaker 1>she is one of the most inept, like amazing minded

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<v Speaker 1>women that I've met in a long time. And and

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<v Speaker 1>her her rawness and her just how how how much

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<v Speaker 1>she cares about what music is. I haven't seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, like like even acting, Like even when

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<v Speaker 1>we're on set, she's like, I know, I'm not an actor, Like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't what I do. I'm like, Yo, you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. She's like, nah, after all of that, literally

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<v Speaker 1>cares in like f all of that, like, Yo, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what I do, like understand me. And she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>literally just a dope woman. Man, She's dope. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what your your what your energy is right now, because

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<v Speaker 1>like if you watched the Golden Globes and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the success of a Donald Glove, but then you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Grammys and see the success of We Have a

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<v Speaker 1>Chance or anybody, what would you want more? Because you

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>got the opportunity all potential to do both. What you

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>think you can't pick both? What would you want more? No?

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Man as Grammy you know it's Holden Global grammar, you

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<v Speaker 1>know right, It's it's crazy because one of my one

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of my biggest goals ever since I was a kid,

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to get the It's not even the

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Holy Trinity, like the quadruple, like the egot, you know,

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to get an Emmy and a Grammy, an

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Oscar and a Tony. I want to get all four,

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like I want I want to fill that up. And

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>if even if I get a Golden Globe, like that'll

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be great as well, But like to get all four

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like that that was like as a kid like, I

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, that a dope, Like if I could

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>get that, well, you're starting nice early. Yeah, right, who

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>has that? I always hear about the et, but who

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>had There's only a few people, I think, honestly, I

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>think WHOOPI Goldberg has one. I think Goldberg has one.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Barbara Streissen has one. There's a few people because plays. Yeah,

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you haven't jumped into that roum not yet. I'm gonna

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>get one of those. Davidy Talbot, MoMA, there goes that

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 1>man something like that. No, no, man, there goes that man. Honestly,

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>that's the name literally probably your name of a player too. No,

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I was you know the last play that I've seen that.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, I wish I would have been on?

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Was was Hamilton? Like? That was? Yeah? One of my

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>one of my big brothers from um from Red Sails,

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Leslie Oldham, he was on. He was on Hamilton's and

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember by by happenstance got seen it outside and

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>he was just like, Yo, we're doing we're doing a

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 1>show tonight. You should come through. Joe Lucas is coming through.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Lee Daniels Leo, Yo, I'm gonna leave tickets at the door.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, like I heard about it,

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>went to the show. Mind blown. I was like, yo,

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like the cabinet meetings are rat battles. Like I was like, Yo,

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this is this is explaining American history the way that

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have learned it in school. This

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. And from there on I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have been in this, Like I

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>wish I wish I would have thought of this or

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>or had the opportunity the audition for this. Right. So yeah,

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that that was the last play that I was like, dang,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been writing as well too, though, absolutely right,

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So where's that going now? The writing? I mean I

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>write a lot. I mean what you're talking about? Oh nah,

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I it goes back to the music that I've been writing.

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. We uh we we kind of just been

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>writing scripts and everything for the for the music that

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>we wrote as well. So instead of doing like the

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>quinch essential usual short film, the fifteen minute long form

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>music video that a lot of people do nowadays, I

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to actually do something that was a little more cinematic,

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, that would bring the viewers in a little

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>more and engage them like like a TV show was

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>so me and one of my best friends we wrote

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a kind of wrote a miniseries to to the project

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as well. So that's another one of the fastest to it.

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But we we got a lot going on, yeah, because

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>if not, then oh yeah, we got a lot. We

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>got a lot put into this project. And we keep

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>on adding more. All right, we got more. Mac Wild's

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>coming up next, and don't forget to watch the Breaks

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at nine on VH one is the World was

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Dangerous Morning Show, the breakfast club Piece of the Planet's

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Charlomagne the God and we're talking to Mac Wilds and

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Va one of the breaks, which premiers tonight at nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighth Central Politics affecting music, now art if it affects

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>my art, not necessarily just my music, Like uh, it's

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of the main reasons why I jump

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>jumped that Shots fired. You know, when Shots Fired came

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>out and understanding the political climate that we were in,

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, like this is a no brainer,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it made all sense in the world, Like, so

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>what is it about? Because we think shots fired, we

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>think somebody tweeting somebody something crazy. Shots fired about so

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>in a nutshell, it's it's pretty much, uh, an autopsy

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>of a small city in North Carolina, um torn apart

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>by the murders or the deaths of two kids, one

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>black and one white by the hands of the police

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>on the side, or the police had something to do

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>with us. But uh, to to put it in terms

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that everybody would understand, what would happen in the in

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the country, in the world if, after all of the

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>police have killings that have happened from Ferguson everywhere, Baltimore

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Stating and everywhere, Right, what would happen in the small

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>town in North Carolina if a black cop kills a

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>white kid. That's the first minute. That's the first minute

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of the show. I played a black cop rookie. Of

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>course I'm assuming yeah, yeah, he is the Wow, that's dope, Okay,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. That comes out of March right,

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Newe comes out much March twenty second A lot on

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this plate. Man, that's totally politically driven, sir, How do

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you prepare for a role like that? It's hard, it's hard, um,

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're from Staten Island, where one of the most uh,

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess historic police killings happened, Eric Gardone, Arigana, rest

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in peace. My man's um. Yeah it was tough man.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh mind I grew up in I grew up in

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the project. So yeah, so even even bigger than that.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Like we all know when a cop pulls up on you,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you you don't your first your first thought process and

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>mindset isn't nice or anything good. It's usually either run

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or like yo, I didn't do nothing. It's automatically something hostile.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>But to to actually learn how police think, do police training,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>going these going these right alongs with these cops like

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to to be to see how cops see and think.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Mind you, I don't. I don't condone anything that these

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>cops have done. I I give them a different respect.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I have a I have a slightly better understanding

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of where they come from. Because on our side, we're nervous,

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>we understand. We we hear the horror stories. We see

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>them on our on our screens, we see them on television,

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Instagram, we hear the stories that our parents

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>told us, like like, it's it's in our it's in

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>our diaspora, it's in our it's in everything that we've

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>learned as as kids like as people growing up in

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this country as minorities. On the other side, cops they

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>hear the horror stories, like, they're just as scared as us,

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>So they literally walk into these situations with two scared people.

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's automatically a powder kid. It's it's bound to

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>erupt at any minute, right, So it's it's literally the

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>scariest moment. Like I remember, I remember doing a ride

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>along in Washington Heights. Mind you, the cops were walking

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>through one of the projects. We smell weed. The cops

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>is like, yo, let's just walk down the steps. So

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the kids get out of the hallway, walk down the steps,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and the kids are as soon as they see the cops,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>they're so hostile and they're grabbing for their waist and

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they're pulling out their phones. I'm scared, like on something

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like oh, like damn, that's wilds. Like nobody I'm standing

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>behind the wall so I don't so nobody see that

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the wilds with the cops come to the cops different situations.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I'm like, yo, like to see what

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>this situation could literally turn into. Where I was that kid,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember being that kid, Like yo, I didn't

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>do nothing like and being so hostile and himp got

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do it that though, absolutely, because we

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>grew up, we taught the kids after cops and pigs

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and people have a lot to do. That's what I'm

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's a there's a there's a whole like

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>which came first to checking on the egg situation. But

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day where we are right now,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard. It's what happened with that intident. The

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>kids finally just breeze off, but after a while, but

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it was it took a minute. It didn't make you

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>think like what can be done to make these relationships

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>better between regular people and the police. I think the

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing for me, I after doing it. Another story,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the days that we h that I had

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to actually do this scene where the kid gets shot

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>was the day that filndol cast still got wow. So yeah,

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>so mind you. I'm I walk in my trailer, I'm

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at my phone. I see the whole thing because

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Shorty video take the whole thing on her on on

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Facebook Live. So I'm watching my on my phone. I'm

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>not even paying attention to what the call. She says,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>or anything. I just walk in my trailer, not realizing

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>what I gotta do today, walk in and I see

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>my police uniform like dead smack in front of me,

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>automatically burst into tears, like couldn't hold back, couldn't even

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>go on set for like two hours. Producers had to

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>come in just talk to me like yo, like listen,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you're doing this for a reason, like keeping questioning whether

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you even wanted to do it exactly. I don't won't

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>be no people exactly like it was. It was one

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of those moments where I'm like, am I doing this

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for the right reasons? And I remember Gina coming in

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to my to my to the to the trailer and

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>just and talking to me and saying like, listen, you

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta understand this is this is this is as hard

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>for you as it is for us, and this is

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be something bigger than all of us. So like

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just stick it out like we got you, Like this

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't this isn't something that's bad. This is something that's

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>going to start the right conversation to hopefully drive people

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. Is there gonna be a lesson

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>learned or is it just it just profiting off it's

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to be a lesson learned. And if there's

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>anything that, if there's if it, if Gina and Reggie

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>are involved, you will definitely always get a lesson learned.

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You'll always get like the right like it. They always

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>land right on the mark. Now, I know why you're

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have time, because if you're a cop in North Carolina,

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a black cop who kills a white guy, you're gonna

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>die in the first season, probably first few episodes. Ready

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for the break season. You gave the first three episodes.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Hey, man, just watch the show, all right,

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. I'm

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>in every episode. Okay, Okay, there you go, and the

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>race premier is February twenty h one. Shots Fired premieres

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Mars twenty seconds after the entire on Fox TV. We

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your jor the album winning. The album's coming soon.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>If you're if you're a hip hop fan, we got

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the brakes for you. If you if you want to

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to start a conversation about the social

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>climate and what's going on in our world right now,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>we got Shots Fired for you. And if you just

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>want to vibe out and get some good music in

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>your life. We got the album for you, so we

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know what y'all girls are waiting on to get

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>this baby from macwatter? Do you see all this money

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>this man is getting. Macwise is a best though, take

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Moody to tame him. I know information macis. It's a

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>breakfast club. Good morning. Yeah, it's time for Donkey of

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the day. So being Dunky of the day a little

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of a mill so like a dope the other day. Now,

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been called a lot of my twenty three years.

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That Donkey of the day is a new wife. Me

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>being the devil is an alternative fact. Okay. Donald Trump's

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>team is officially the greatest castle comedians ever. Not the

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 1>cast of The Chappelle Show, not the Cassimine, Living Color,

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not the cast of S and Now, not the cast

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta, Blackish, Insecure, none of that. Donald Trump's team

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>with the funniest without even trying. Okay, it's not the

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>funniest sitcom a reality show on television right now. In fact,

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>what they have going on would be called an alternative

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>reality show, the first of it's kind. Okay, and I

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>personally thoroughly enjoy it simply because I'm not gonna sit

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>around and pout for the next four years. I'm gonna

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just keep God first, live my life, get this money

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>so I can empower myself and others, and enjoy this

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>alternative reality show called the Trump Administration. Now we all

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>got eyes, all right, some of y'all were, actually they're

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in DC this weekend. We saw the inauguration on TV. Okay,

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and let's be clear, it just wasn't lit, wasn't popping,

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a large crowd that as inaugurations go. I mean,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's inauguration paled in comparison to the Woman's March.

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Drop on a clue's bombs for the Woman's March, damn it. Okay,

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the Woman's March had three times more people than Trump's

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>inauguration crowd. Crowd scientists say it was at about four

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy thousand demonstrators in DC, compared to about

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty for Trump's inauguration. I know what

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, I'm the President of the United States of America.

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I won already. Who cares how many people come to

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the ring ceremony? I won? Give me my ring I mean,

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that's how I would think, but I'm not an arcistic

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>epomaniac like some people. Clearly, this is what the Trump

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>administration cares about. But that's what happens when a country

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a command during chief, but a celebrity in chief. Okay, Well,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the National Press Secretary Foss celebrity in chief, came to

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>his defense this weekend during a press conference. Shaun Spice

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is what they call him. He claimed, the crowd to

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>witness Trump's inauguration Friday was the biggest of all time. Brilliant, Ringly, brothers,

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't believe me. Listen to yourself. Photographs of the inaugural

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet,

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>National Mall. We do know a few things, so let's

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>go through the facts. We know that from the platform

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>where the president was sworn into, Fourth Street holds about

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand people. From Fourth Street to

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the media tent is about another two hundred and twenty thousand,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and from the media tent to the Washington Monument another

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>another two hundred and fifty thousand people. All of this

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>space was full when the president took the oath of office.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>We know that four hundred and twenty thousand people used

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the DC Metro public transit yesterday Jesus, which it actually

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>compares to three hundred and seventeen thousand. They used it

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>for President Obama's last inaugural h if he's the largest

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>audience to ever witness an inauguration. Periods where these attempts

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong.

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>National Pressed Secretary Sean Spicer just up there pressed telling lie. Okay,

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>not only did he tell a lie, he had reasonings

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>for his lie. The white top laid out in front

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Capitol script security measures led the attendees getting

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>there late. Sean's not like a club promoter trying to

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>tell the DJ why he can't pay him all his

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>money at the end of the night, Like stop trying

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to sell me a dream. I know why you can't

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>pay me because nobody showed up. But Sean Spicer wasn't

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the only person in the Trump administration who was trying

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to sell America a dream. Kelly Anne Conway, Trump's senior

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>advisor was on ABC's This Week and when presston Watch

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Spicer said things that weren't true, she gave us a

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>term that pretty much is gonna sum up everything the

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>administration stands for the Trump administration, let's hear it. They

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>got to answer the question of why the president asked

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the White House Press Secretary to come out in front

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the entire White House Press Office. So don't be so

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>overly dramatic about it. Chuckle what you're saying, it's a falsehood,

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're giving Sean Spicer, our Press secretary, gave alternative

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>facts to that. But the point alternatives four to five facts,

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the others we're just not true. Look, alternative facts are

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>not facts, they're falsehood. Drop one of clues bombs for

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>alternative facts damaged the new sexy way to say lies.

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>If you're married, stop saying you're having an a fan.

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Just say you have an alternative relationship. Have a baby

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>with another woman other than your wife, a girlfriend. That's

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>an alternative child. You hif you positive and you don't

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>want to tell people your status. Just say you've got

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>alternative blood cell. The possibility is an endless speak. I'm

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>a Dallas Cowboy fan, alternative relationship. Okay, shut up, I'm

0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a Dallas Cowboy fan. In my mind, we didn't lose

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay last week. Alrighty, we beat Atlanta yesterday. Therefore,

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, we are the alternative NFC champion. Since

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>facts don't matter anymore and we can just create our

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>own alternative realities, let me live my lie. Okay. See,

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the reality of the situation. The reason people

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't show up the Trumps inauguration is because we live

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.280
<v Speaker 1>in a world full of sneaky Trump supporters, and nobody

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to admit they voted for Trump. So being that

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to admit they voted for Trump, of course

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't show up to the inauguration. The rest of

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>its supporters probably can't afford to come. You're in the

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>backwoods and Mississippi somewhere. You want to support your guy.

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to day, say Baba, Jake, clean us gas

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 1>off the truck. We had it north? Which way to day?

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Say follow the sun. Look the support us in the

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>backwoods couldn't make it all right. They couldn't make it

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to the inauguration. They got hogs. Intend to all right.

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Will Rogers once said a fool and his money are

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>soon elected. We're hearing that Donald Trump is president, and

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that is not an alternative fact. That is a reality.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So let's just all enjoy the show, that entertainment and

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the content they provide for us all, and just pray

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we all don't die in the process. Give Sean Spicson

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and Kelly Ann Conway the biggest Hea Hall please. All right,

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>We got a special guest in the building again, my brother.

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>He's always up. He's part of the Breakfast Club. Absolutely,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike Werck Dyson. Yes, sir, it's so good to be

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>back here with y'all. That's your chair that night, Hey,

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel it. I'm at home. And now last time

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you was here, you was releasing the book Tied. We

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>cannot stop. Yes, sir, the book released, it was number

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>eight on the New York Times Best Sellers. Let's drop

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.479
<v Speaker 1>on the clue's bombs for that night I was reading

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that book when I was getting my hair done, and

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the beauty type of excuse me, can I

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>see that book that you're reading? What is that about? Oh?

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Nice title alone gets a lot of attention, yes, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's been incredible. Man, I've been getting of course, I

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>get the white hate mail, but I got a lot

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>of white love based on that. A lot of white

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>people saying this is ironic. They said, you're actually speaking

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>for us. This is the kind of stuff we wanted

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.839
<v Speaker 1>to say to people we love, but we couldn't say

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it in a certain way. So they said, we're just

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>giving your book to them. I said, man, that's that's

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing. Yeah, because I didn't feel like there's

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>nothing in your book that is any type of hatred

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.240
<v Speaker 1>towards white people, not at all. If anything, you're asking

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>white America to use this privilege to combat to prejudice

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that we're see. That's that's beautifully put. Man, That's exactly

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to ask them

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>to peak beneath the veil, so to speak right. The

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz ain't who you think he is. So

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking white people to see whiteness as that artificial

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:42.439
<v Speaker 1>construction and get behind the curtain and then take off

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.479
<v Speaker 1>the burden of that whiteness, because that whiteness hurts white

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>people as much, ironically enough, as it hurts black, brown, red,

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and yellow people too. Now we had a discussion about

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Adela and Beyonce up here. Man, I know you upset

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce lost Album of the Year because you dedicated your

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>book to her. You know, you know I am. And

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, look, I love Adele. You know when

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I went to one of Beyonce's concerts, the one in Philadelphia,

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>because I went to three of them on this tour.

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, I got to hit multiple Beyonce concerts and

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know I was up there with Adele's people. So

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I love Adele. I love what she represents. This is

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>bigger than the individuals because it's clear that Beyonce and

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Adele have a special, significant, beautiful, affectionate relationship, and especially

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in public, two superstar women loving each other has a

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>political consequence. You saw it some when you saw say,

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift, But it always gets complicated

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>by the issue of race. Remember when Taylor thought, you know,

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Nicki was signifying on her about skinny women and you

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>can't get recognized, and then Taylor went off on her

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and then she had to put her in check. It's

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>always that tension, but with Adele and Beyonce, it's been

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a rather remarkable, kind of romantic in the best sense

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of that word, relationship between the two. Having said that,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it was thievery pure and simple, and what it is

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to me in the era of Trump, it's the emergence

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 1>of black genius up against white mediocrity. I'm not talking

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>about Adele now, I'm talking about Donald Trump. Adele is

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a significant and great craftswoman. She's a songstress of the

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>first order. You probably wouldn't have seen Beyonce start a

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>song and then stop it because her yen for perfection

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is so deep, her preparation is so thorough, her respect

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>for her craft is so incredible that when Steve Style

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>came to my jay Z class at Georgetown, he said,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the two hardest working people I've ever met in my

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>life Kobe Bryant Beyonce. So we know her level of

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>preparation is legendary and probably would have prevented something like

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>that from occurring. But beyond that, as great as Adele is,

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>she is not Beyonce. If we can't have a black

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>woman who is the greatest entertainer in the world today,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and not just on stage though that is the performer

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>development is quite extraordinary. I'm talking about what she did

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>with her music. You release an album like Lemonade the

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:07.240
<v Speaker 1>same way you did the previous album Beyonce a visual album.

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>It comes with the batteries included. You've got every video

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>right thought out. You've got not only that, the thematic

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>consistency of that album there, then you've got what she's

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>doing with her voice. People don't recognize Beyonce's genius in

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>terms of fusing, singing, and rapping. I mean what she's

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>done on those last two albums in Church, she could

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>spit with the best of them. She could spit with

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>her husband, and we know what a remarkable genius is.

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.280
<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying she doesn't get recognition for the craft

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of what she does. She doesn't get recognition as a

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>woman or a Black woman, for the extraordinary time and

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 1>effort she puts into what she does. It's like black athletes, Oh,

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you must be born that way, Lebron, you must have

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>those skills kill but you got those skills, Serena Williams,

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>You got those skills. No, that's hard work and genius,

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>which is a devastating consequence. So for me, when I

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 1>see Beyonce being denied, I'm asking, where is Kanye West

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>when you need him? Where is Kanye to go up

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on stage and say slow down, hold up? We know

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that as good as Adele is, she did not deserve

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the double if you will double that she got winning

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Big Three Awards twice, the only figure ever to

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>do it in an era, much less in a year

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>when Beyonce has unleashed her genius on the world. And

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>not only did Beyonce do it sonically and thematically, she

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>did it in terms of politics. She put on blasts

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>those forces of white supremacy and other oblivion to black

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>culture that would try to hurt us. And she represented

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>in such a powerful way for black lives matter, insistence

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that our lives are significant and should be held in

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>high regard. She did all of that, yes, though a

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago, while she's pregnant, leaning back in

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the chair, announcing the birth of her twins to come,

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and totally dominating the rhetorical, the majesty of the entertaining

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and the incredible art of what it means to make

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.919
<v Speaker 1>an album and to perform so at that level, Black

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>genius will always be punished by white mediocrity. It will

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>always be punished by In this case, excellence in white

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>culture has to, in one sense go up against the

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary genius of black culture. Think about it. For instance,

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I love him too. When my man Kendrick Lamar should

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have won the album who ended up winning mc lamore. Now,

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>McLamore is a great artist. McLamore is a conscientious great artist.

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 1>McLamore is a conscientious white great artist who understands what's

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>at stake. But what did he say? I know Kendrick

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Lamar deserved that. What did A Dell say? I know

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that I can't accept this. Though she took the award

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>win her, she did not give that to Beyonce. She

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>knew that she didn't deserve that. The same way when

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Kanye went up on that stage, and I happened to

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>be there that night, I was there that night at

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the Video Music Awards when Kanye was went up on stage. Yeah,

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was he drunk? Maybe maybe so? But what was his point?

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Rude, of course, but what was his point?

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It was so righteous. His point was, I am tired

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of standing by seeing black genius unrewarded when we know

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the superior artist has been denied. I bet you, I

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>bet you. Chuck Berry was at home going where was

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Kanye when I needed them? When they were giving my

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>awards to Pat Boone, I bet you Little Richard was

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>at home saying where were you when they were giving

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>my awards to Elvis Presley? Elvis Presley undeniable genius himself,

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>but not the originator of rock and roll and the

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>ability to write the same way Chuck Berry was. And

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>now Beyonce robbed in a serious way. And if the

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>most recognizable Black woman, arguably on the globe, the most talented,

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the most ingenious, the most creative, can't get her due,

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.919
<v Speaker 1>this is symbolic of something bigger than an individual artist

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>being snubbed. This is about the politics of race. This

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>is about the politics of race and gender, and this

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 1>is about the politics of blackness in an era of vast,

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>unreachable white mediocrity that Donald Trump represents. All right, well,

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>we had one with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back,

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>keeping lois to Breakfast Club, Good Morning, Price of Planet.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I go by the name of Charlomagne, the d Indian

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>angela yet hit with the world most Dangerous morning show

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to Breakfast Club, and we have one of my guys,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite people on the planet, somebody I

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed talking to. Nobody better to have on this Barack

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Obama did. We're not calling it President's Day, Okay, We're

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>calling it Barack Obama Day because personally, I feel like

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>we have nothing to be proud of when it comes

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to our current presidents. I guess we celebrate all the

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:24.920
<v Speaker 1>presidents before this one. But nobody better to have in

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the building than Michael Eric Dyson. Right now, you got

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a question to lions. Tweeted out, there have only been

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>two black winners in the last twenty years for Album

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 1>of the Year. There have been over two hundred black

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>artists who have performed, right, That's what she tweeted out.

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of other incidents that happened recently, like

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Charles Oakley that parents getting banned from the garden. The

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 1>other same some time and in their future, we will

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 1>be able to come out. But just even the way

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that they oh yeah, I mean him out the way again.

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Now we talk about putting in the work. When Charles,

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>when Charles Oakley stepped on that court, and that's my generation.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw that brother play. When Charles Oakley stepped on

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that court, he brought every fiber of energy, of work, ethic,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of sweat, ethic that God gave him to bear for

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>those owners for whom he played and the teammates that

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.479
<v Speaker 1>he loved and adored and embraced. You know, from whether

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>he was playing with Scottie and Michael Jordan's Chicago and

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>then coming into New York and transforming the work culture. Right,

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a blue collar you know, a hat

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in his hand and a pail in his hand, workman.

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Charles Oakley was the ultimate enforcer, the ultimate muscle,

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and gave his all for the team. He's earned his

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>right to be critical of mister Dolan. He's earned his

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>right to be critical of other players who haven't stepped

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 1>up to the plate. I mean, that's the nature again

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of black genius. When Lebron steps up, he's bringing the

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>noise to everybody in the ruckis Michael Jordan was no

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 1>walk through the park, Kobe Bryant, These men of genius

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>or Serena Williams. This is no teeth of the fever.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>This is an extraordinary demand. So why then toss him

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a man out like that? Treat him like a common thug,

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 1>chump him. And I'm gonna tell you what else gets

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>revealed is that Phil Jackson as great as he was

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>at one point, maybe revealing that you know, heck, you

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and I could have coached the Chicago Bulls or the

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Lakers if we had Kobe Bryant and Shack

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and if we had Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. Now

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 1>your genius is being challenged. It looks like Gregg Popovich

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is a far more significant and serious coach and and

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and Phil Jackson looks like a petulant child. He's an

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>appropriate kind of gem for New York in the age

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of Trump, because even though he doesn't offensibly share his politics,

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>what he does share is a kind of narcissistic self engagement,

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to cover it over with his Zen spirituality when

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day you end up being

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing more than a jerk and at and at the

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, Phil Jackson's inability to even acknowledge

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a Camerlo Carmelo Anthony. Now, you gave Anthony the dough

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and you gave him the ability not to be traded.

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the day, you acknowledge what

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he brought to the table, and now you want to

0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>just loud talk him. You want to make snide remarks

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and comments. I mean again, the inability to grapple with

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and recognize the significant contribution of even a so called

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>complicated black people. Black people don't get allowed, aren't allowed

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to be complicated. Wife, get get get complicated. They're eccentric,

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>their geniuses black people do it. You're a thug, You

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>have no ability to fit in with the others. No,

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm coloring outside the lines because my name is Picasso.

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So now they don't recognize our genius and then shunting

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.879
<v Speaker 1>us off as a pathological expression of things they want

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to throw away. In Charles Barkley, Charles Oakley got played

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the same way. Now, I felt like Adele missed the moment.

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>And know how we talk about how you can use

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>your privilege to combat prejudice, like when she said the

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>whole thing about Beyonce's music makes my black friends feel

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>like they can stand up for themselves. I felt like

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 1>she should have said, Beyonce's music makes me want to

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>stand up for black people. Friends. There it is, there,

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it is. That's a brilliant point, because the ultimate active

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>white privilege is to share it as much as you can,

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to deconstruct it, to to unmask it, and to say,

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't deserve it, so so standing there,

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>she might have said that. She might have said, we

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>all know that as much as I love you and

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you for recognizing me and what I've been through,

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>we all know that this black woman sitting before me

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.359
<v Speaker 1>is the greatest, the greatest entertaining and if you will,

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>esthetic and melodic and harmonic and musical presence on the

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>globe right now. And we should all defer to her

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and recognize that. And if the award committee doesn't do it,

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I will hear Beyonce, let me give this to you.

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 1>You are the woman who deserves it. No, she doesn't

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of grace or that kind of acknowledgement

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that her own privilege has to exist only at the

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 1>expense of Beyonce. And this is what a lot of

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>white folk don't understand. The white privilege you enjoy exists

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of somebody else being denied At that level,

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it is a zero some game. White privilege exists only

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.359
<v Speaker 1>because white folk didn't have to compete with the best

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>of their genre. Right. Think about it, Babe, Ruth didn't

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 1>compete against the greatest ball players. He competed to it's

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the greatest white ballplayers, right. I mean, you're right. And

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>when white folk got into Harvard, before they started integrating it,

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you ain't competing against the smartest people. You're competing against

0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the smartest white people. God knows you weren't competing against

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the smartest Latino or Asian people. In fact, they got

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a basic, you know, moratorium on the entry of certain

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Asians out in California, a quota if you will, former

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>or not, where they limit the number of Asian brothers

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and sisters who were get in school because it was

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>killing the numbers of white folk. As long as white

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>folk were getting in there were black and brown people

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>weren't no problem. I'm sorry. It's about a meritocracy, and

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>merit determines the distribution of goods like employment or getting

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a seat in school. But when the Asians started whipping

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that white ass, all of a sudden it became a problem.

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.680
<v Speaker 1>The quota got enforced formally or informally, and now white

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>competition with others who can beat them is regulated. So

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>my point is, from the very beginning, white folk have

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 1>been treated to an extraordinary level of privilege, and part

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of that privileged mean I don't have to face the

0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>best and the brightest. What you don't understand is that

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>whiteness is built in with the ability to rig the

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>competition in favor of the white guy. That's why Donald

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Trump's presidency is so apropos and this is why a

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of white people don't want to recognize it's not

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 1>simply about a crypto fascist creep in America. It's not

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>about the denial of democracy. It's all that, But it's

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>also about the fact that a mediocre white boy is

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 1>occupying the most powerful position in the world and he

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is manifestly inferior and then capable of manning up or

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>intellectualing up to be able to fit the office for

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>which she has been elected. You know, my whole thing

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with that is is what about if she really didn't

0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>feel that way? Well, what about it if she felt that, Yeah,

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you made my black friends stand up and she didn't

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:48.879
<v Speaker 1>get that necessary feeling. I feel like sometimes we look

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>for acceptance of people that we necessarily don't need acceptance from.

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>That's true, I mean, but I thought that Charlemagne's point

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>was she missed an opportunity to do so. But your

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 1>point of people that way, well, that even more reinforces

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>our point about her white privilege, because at least if

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.320
<v Speaker 1>she's conscious of it and doesn't make the gesture to

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>unmask that privilege, that's one thing. But she's conscious of it,

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 1>because we know she's conscious, because she's trying to fumble

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>toward it makes my black friends, she's she's trying to

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 1>get in that arena. She's in the arena, and in

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the she and in the section we're sitting in. She

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and in the VIP. But she in the arena, She

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>in the arena. Your point is, what about she't even

0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 1>in arena? What about she doesn't feel that way? And

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that's part and parceible. That's the usual response,

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>right if if she's not that's what white brothers and

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>sisters usually possessed, that is no recognition at all. You

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to most white people about white privilege, the hell

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about right, I get I get emails,

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hate emails from white people. The hell are you talking about?

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't have any white privilege. I was poor,

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>You got more white, you got more privileges. Job right?

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And again they don't recognize right when they say, well,

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it's the white working class. We have to work. The

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>white working class got protected too. How it kept out

0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>black people from unions, pipe fittersers. The white working class

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>rigged the competition for themselves. When you were taking a

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>test for a policeman or a fireman, you were given

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the hookup from within. On nine eleven. As tragic as

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that day was, why did most of the people who

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>perished officially as firemen or policemen? Why were they white?

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Because it reflected the deep lack of diversity and the

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>hookup that white people have among certain unions, certain jobs

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and outfits. Just like you go to DC the parking people,

0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you know they're gonna be easy open Ama sagalo. That's

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>what it's going to be because they've been able to

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>hone in on and horn in on that particular if

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you will, industry and allow it to share it with

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.640
<v Speaker 1>others of their people who come over here. So I'm

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>telling you, white brothers have had the hookup, white sisters

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 1>have had the hookup from the get go. So it

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprising to me that if Adell didn't understand

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that didn't feel that felt that, hey, it makes those

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 1>people feel better, but I still earned what I got.

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That would be characteristic of most white people who are unawoke,

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>who are unaware, who are unconscious of that privilege, and

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>when they step up to me. As I said before,

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the greatest privilege of a white person can have is

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to encounter a policeman on the street, and in the

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>nasty freakis that might result from that, you live to

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>tell the story about it. That is the ultimate form

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of white privilege. And then they've got nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with how much money you got, where your zip code is,

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<v Speaker 1>or who your mom and daddy are. Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more Michael Eric Dyson coming up next. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the world Most Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club. The

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club. That's right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a special guest in the building, Michael Eric Dyson.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been discussing this notion of privilege. We have, Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>Gladwell love here. Do you think privilege is something only

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<v Speaker 1>white people have? Absolutely not. I mean I have privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>You have privilege. You have privilege as a male right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because one of the untold stories is look, not only

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<v Speaker 1>is Beyonce up against a legacy of inequity that is

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<v Speaker 1>driven by supremacy, she's up against male supremacy too. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she's up against a legacy of male supremacy and misogyny

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<v Speaker 1>expressed by black men. Black men who are participated in

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<v Speaker 1>calling women bitches and holes and skeezers and sluts and

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<v Speaker 1>hood rats and chicken heads, who think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>the expression of you know, my own ability to be

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<v Speaker 1>liberated and emancipated to tell the truth about women. You unconscious, unwoke, negrow.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're doing is perpetuating a legacy of patriarchy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the belief that men's lives should determine the legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>forms of social existence, of misogyny which is the hatred

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<v Speaker 1>of women, or sexism, which is the belief that our

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<v Speaker 1>inclinations as men should set the baseline for what we

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<v Speaker 1>think is legitimate. We have practiced that too. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we have male privilege. We have male privilege when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to black women, right, is a tremendous double standard.

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<v Speaker 1>But black women have done more to protect black men

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<v Speaker 1>than any other group in America, including black men. Black

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<v Speaker 1>women have been on the cutting edge and on the

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<v Speaker 1>front line, standing up from us for us. I to

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<v Speaker 1>b Wells, Nanny, Helen Burrows, sept Mclark, Joanne Robinson, Ella Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>Angela Davis, Mama, Yo, yo, mamma. But this is what

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<v Speaker 1>black men do. Love my mama, right, So we got

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<v Speaker 1>the vertical right, but the horizontals jacked up. Hate my

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<v Speaker 1>baby mama. Well, dude, your baby mama. It's somebody else's mama, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>child's mama. So their adoration and reverence you have for

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<v Speaker 1>your mother should be extended to your baby mother. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we know that there's tremitt decision and we know it's

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, but the inability to recognize the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we have male privileged and a significant and serious

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<v Speaker 1>fashion is a former privilege. We got class privilege too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got more money than the next person over here,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the same experience of blackness as a

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<v Speaker 1>person working on the line, and the person on the

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<v Speaker 1>line doesn't have the same experience of blackness as the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's homeless. So there are always gradations and degrees

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<v Speaker 1>of difference. But of course we have privilege. We have privileges.

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<v Speaker 1>Christians in a nation that demonizes Muslim people, Right, we

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<v Speaker 1>go around and we look, Look, it ain't no problem

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<v Speaker 1>if Tim Tebow takes a knee on the ground. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem if one of the Muslim players, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>prayed six times or in the middle of the field

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<v Speaker 1>all praises due to a lie, that would be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So the unconscious reproduction of privilege on multiple levels. One

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<v Speaker 1>is religious, one is class, one is gender and sexual orientation.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it. We live in a world people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't mind you know, gay people being gay,

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<v Speaker 1>but why are you doing in front of my face?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's a million people out there kissing who are

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<v Speaker 1>hedo sexual. You ain't got no problem with. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got a problem with a gay, lesbian, transgender by sexual

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<v Speaker 1>queer person showing their affections. So yeah, there's all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of privilege that we have. And that's why I think

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump, black people have to recognize we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury or leisure to nurture in the bosom of

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<v Speaker 1>our culture of bigotry doing somebody else like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a preacher too, I'm an ordained Baptist minister. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing that for thirty seven years. I ain't been

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<v Speaker 1>to no Black church to turn down gay tis all

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<v Speaker 1>this homophobia, But they ain't cutting off the duct. They

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<v Speaker 1>ain't saying, excuse me, because of our beliefs theologically, we

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<v Speaker 1>will not receive your job. Hell no, they're taking all

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<v Speaker 1>that money from gay lesbon, transgender, bisexual, queer people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't kicking them out the choir. I ain't seen

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<v Speaker 1>no Black church that you cannot sing up in this

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<v Speaker 1>quiet because it wouldn't be no good music and quiet

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<v Speaker 1>as it's kept. A lot of gay people are secretly

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<v Speaker 1>gay preaching in the pulpit, that's a fact. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are preaching homophobic sermons against gay people because they

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<v Speaker 1>are secretly gay themselves, trying to forge connection with heterosexual

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<v Speaker 1>people to to to deflect any suspicion of them themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they are all kinds of privileges that operate

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<v Speaker 1>even when you are oppressed, you can to be an

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<v Speaker 1>oppressor at the same time. My final question, mister dayson like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they hear us on this radio and they hear us

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<v Speaker 1>talking all of this black stuff and pro black stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you please let them know that that don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>we hate white people, not at all. I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this what Tina Lawson, you know, Tina Knows Lawson said

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<v Speaker 1>on her daughter's album or Set at the Table. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it that if I say I love black people,

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<v Speaker 1>you think I hate white people. We don't hate white folks.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, an argument can be made white black people

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<v Speaker 1>love white people too much. Right, we love white people

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<v Speaker 1>too much. We all hate y'all. We love y'all. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to be like y'all. We want to do our

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<v Speaker 1>hair the same way you do. And I'm not saying, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about black people with straight hair, because

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<v Speaker 1>Africans did that. Africans experimented with their noses, their lips,

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<v Speaker 1>put rings and hoops with their hair. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's an African thing to experiment what your hair,

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment what your body. That's a beautiful improvisational ethic

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<v Speaker 1>at the heart of our own African centered identity. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying at the end of the day that

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean that we hate white people. We have learned

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<v Speaker 1>to think white right, white believe white, embrace whiteness as

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<v Speaker 1>the norm. So it's not that we hate white. We

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<v Speaker 1>love it too much. What we've got to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to learn to love ourselves. And loving ourselves doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>we hate you. It's not a zero something game. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if I like, if I like Shanique, what don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Becky. It means that Becky has been acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky with the good hair done, got love from the birth,

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<v Speaker 1>from the crib, from the cradle. But Shanique, what has

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<v Speaker 1>been told that she's not beautiful? And the irony is

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<v Speaker 1>once we begin to embrace ourselves and you love yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't hate nobody because you're so secure in who

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<v Speaker 1>you are. You know that what you represent it's so powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful, so edifying, so uplifting. You ain't got to

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<v Speaker 1>hate nobody else. So when you speak about black love

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<v Speaker 1>and black self love, that's the most revolutionary radical thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, is to love one's own self and

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<v Speaker 1>to love one's own group. But white brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 1>don't get mad. You love your children, you love your

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<v Speaker 1>particular tribes, you love the names you give them. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that you hate us, but you are often

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<v Speaker 1>indifferent to us. You are oblivious to us. We just

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter. As as the great ethicist said, the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of love is not hate, it's difference. It's one I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't make a difference to you. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even care about me, as those black people say, you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't even stutting me. So once we learn to love ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>all the pathologies that you think are out there White America,

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<v Speaker 1>that are in our community will be reduced. All of

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<v Speaker 1>the suffering that you think we bear, the traumas that

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<v Speaker 1>we impose, can be significantly assuaged or at least reduced

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<v Speaker 1>or ameliorated, and it is made better. And another thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using them words because I want you to look

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<v Speaker 1>them up. I'm using them words because I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>people in circles that you don't have access to use

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<v Speaker 1>them against you. And I want young black people to

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<v Speaker 1>use these words, to know what a dictionary is, to

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<v Speaker 1>know what a thesaurus is. To use those words not

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<v Speaker 1>to impress anybody, not to obscure knowledge, but because in

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<v Speaker 1>circles you don't have access to in higher education, and

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<v Speaker 1>in government and in employment. They are using such terms

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<v Speaker 1>to demonize you and put you into a box. Never

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid of a word. Challenge it, Learn it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I challenge you all out there, learn a new

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<v Speaker 1>word every day. Self love means learning, means unapologetically embracing

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge means unapologetically embracing your own culture. White folks, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate you. We love you just fine. But we

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn to love ourselves even more. And you

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<v Speaker 1>who have benefited from the lack of black self love,

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be intimidated by Finally, the most revolutionary thing we

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<v Speaker 1>do is to tell each other I love you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of love we got to have for our people.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Ary Dyson's word today or tis worded today? Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>you learned in a new word. Okay, Michael Eric Dyson.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you for joining us. Always good to be

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Thank y'all for having me on. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a breakfast love glory.