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Speaker 1: I'm the breakfast club? For real? Hello? Who's this? Hey?

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Speaker 1: my second time? Man? You know, I wake up this

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Speaker 1: who's this Yolet's Rick from day Rick tell him? Are

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Speaker 1: you man? Yeo? Man? So I'm tired of this whole

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Speaker 1: great night last night, great morning, no question that. What

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Speaker 1: Highly favored? I feel blessed. Tell the congregation at eight

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the club, y'all, what's up? Bro? You

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Speaker 1: how are you? Hey? Good morning? You're feeling blessed this morning, Mamma. Yes,

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Speaker 1: about racial relations I'm like when she had Mac and

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Speaker 1: her video and it was supposed to be about an

420
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: interracial relations relationship, because they're like, oh, she's from the UK,

421
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: so she don't know about relations racial relations in America.

422
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: So she didn't mean anything about it back. You can't,

423
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't say that. I would say, I

424
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: would say one thing about her, dell Man, she is

425
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: she is one of the most inept, like amazing minded

426
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: women that I've met in a long time. And and

427
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: her her rawness and her just how how how much

428
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: she cares about what music is. I haven't seen in

429
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: a long time, like like even acting, Like even when

430
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: we're on set, she's like, I know, I'm not an actor, Like, listen,

431
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: this isn't what I do. I'm like, Yo, you're actually

432
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: pretty good. She's like, nah, after all of that, literally

433
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: cares in like f all of that, like, Yo, this

434
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: isn't what I do, like understand me. And she's she's

435
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: literally just a dope woman. Man, She's dope. I wonder

436
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: what your your what your energy is right now, because

437
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: like if you watched the Golden Globes and you see

438
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: the success of a Donald Glove, but then you watch

439
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: the Grammys and see the success of We Have a

440
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: Chance or anybody, what would you want more? Because you

441
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: got the opportunity all potential to do both. What you

442
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: think you can't pick both? What would you want more? No?

443
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Man as Grammy you know it's Holden Global grammar, you

444
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: know right, It's it's crazy because one of my one

445
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: of my biggest goals ever since I was a kid,

446
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to get the It's not even the

447
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: Holy Trinity, like the quadruple, like the egot, you know,

448
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: I want to get an Emmy and a Grammy, an

449
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: Oscar and a Tony. I want to get all four,

450
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: like I want I want to fill that up. And

451
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: if even if I get a Golden Globe, like that'll

452
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: be great as well, But like to get all four

453
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: like that that was like as a kid like, I

454
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that a dope, Like if I could

455
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: get that, well, you're starting nice early. Yeah, right, who

456
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: has that? I always hear about the et, but who

457
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: had There's only a few people, I think, honestly, I

458
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Speaker 1: think WHOOPI Goldberg has one. I think Goldberg has one.

459
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: Barbara Streissen has one. There's a few people because plays. Yeah,

460
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: you haven't jumped into that roum not yet. I'm gonna

461
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: get one of those. Davidy Talbot, MoMA, there goes that

462
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: man something like that. No, no, man, there goes that man. Honestly,

463
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: that's the name literally probably your name of a player too. No,

464
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I was you know the last play that I've seen that.

465
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I wish I would have been on?

466
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: Was was Hamilton? Like? That was? Yeah? One of my

467
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: one of my big brothers from um from Red Sails,

468
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Leslie Oldham, he was on. He was on Hamilton's and

469
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Speaker 1: I remember by by happenstance got seen it outside and

470
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: he was just like, Yo, we're doing we're doing a

471
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: show tonight. You should come through. Joe Lucas is coming through.

472
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Lee Daniels Leo, Yo, I'm gonna leave tickets at the door.

473
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like I heard about it,

474
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: went to the show. Mind blown. I was like, yo,

475
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: like the cabinet meetings are rat battles. Like I was like, Yo,

476
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: this is this is explaining American history the way that

477
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: I wish I would have learned it in school. This

478
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: is amazing. And from there on I was like, yo,

479
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I wish I would have been in this, Like I

480
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: wish I wish I would have thought of this or

481
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: or had the opportunity the audition for this. Right. So yeah,

482
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: that that was the last play that I was like, dang,

483
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: I know you've been writing as well too, though, absolutely right,

484
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: So where's that going now? The writing? I mean I

485
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: write a lot. I mean what you're talking about? Oh nah,

486
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: I it goes back to the music that I've been writing.

487
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: You know. We uh we we kind of just been

488
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: writing scripts and everything for the for the music that

489
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: we wrote as well. So instead of doing like the

490
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: quinch essential usual short film, the fifteen minute long form

491
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: music video that a lot of people do nowadays, I

492
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: wanted to actually do something that was a little more cinematic,

493
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, that would bring the viewers in a little

494
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: more and engage them like like a TV show was

495
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: so me and one of my best friends we wrote

496
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a kind of wrote a miniseries to to the project

497
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: as well. So that's another one of the fastest to it.

498
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: But we we got a lot going on, yeah, because

499
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: if not, then oh yeah, we got a lot. We

500
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: got a lot put into this project. And we keep

501
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: on adding more. All right, we got more. Mac Wild's

502
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: coming up next, and don't forget to watch the Breaks

503
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: tonight at nine on VH one is the World was

504
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: Dangerous Morning Show, the breakfast club Piece of the Planet's

505
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Charlomagne the God and we're talking to Mac Wilds and

506
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Va one of the breaks, which premiers tonight at nine.

507
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: Eighth Central Politics affecting music, now art if it affects

508
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: my art, not necessarily just my music, Like uh, it's

509
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the main reasons why I jump

510
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: jumped that Shots fired. You know, when Shots Fired came

511
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: out and understanding the political climate that we were in,

512
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, like this is a no brainer,

513
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Like it made all sense in the world, Like, so

514
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: what is it about? Because we think shots fired, we

515
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: think somebody tweeting somebody something crazy. Shots fired about so

516
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, it's it's pretty much, uh, an autopsy

517
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: of a small city in North Carolina, um torn apart

518
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: by the murders or the deaths of two kids, one

519
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: black and one white by the hands of the police

520
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: on the side, or the police had something to do

521
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: with us. But uh, to to put it in terms

522
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: that everybody would understand, what would happen in the in

523
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the country, in the world if, after all of the

524
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: police have killings that have happened from Ferguson everywhere, Baltimore

525
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: Stating and everywhere, Right, what would happen in the small

526
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: town in North Carolina if a black cop kills a

527
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: white kid. That's the first minute. That's the first minute

528
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: of the show. I played a black cop rookie. Of

529
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: course I'm assuming yeah, yeah, he is the Wow, that's dope, Okay,

530
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I can see that. That comes out of March right,

531
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Newe comes out much March twenty second A lot on

532
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: this plate. Man, that's totally politically driven, sir, How do

533
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: you prepare for a role like that? It's hard, it's hard, um,

534
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: and you're from Staten Island, where one of the most uh,

535
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I guess historic police killings happened, Eric Gardone, Arigana, rest

536
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: in peace. My man's um. Yeah it was tough man.

537
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: Uh mind I grew up in I grew up in

538
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the project. So yeah, so even even bigger than that.

539
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Like we all know when a cop pulls up on you,

540
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: you you don't your first your first thought process and

541
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: mindset isn't nice or anything good. It's usually either run

542
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: or like yo, I didn't do nothing. It's automatically something hostile.

543
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: But to to actually learn how police think, do police training,

544
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: going these going these right alongs with these cops like

545
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: to to be to see how cops see and think.

546
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Mind you, I don't. I don't condone anything that these

547
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: cops have done. I I give them a different respect.

548
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Now I have a I have a slightly better understanding

549
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: of where they come from. Because on our side, we're nervous,

550
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: we understand. We we hear the horror stories. We see

551
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: them on our on our screens, we see them on television,

552
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, we hear the stories that our parents

553
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: told us, like like, it's it's in our it's in

554
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: our diaspora, it's in our it's in everything that we've

555
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: learned as as kids like as people growing up in

556
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: this country as minorities. On the other side, cops they

557
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: hear the horror stories, like, they're just as scared as us,

558
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: So they literally walk into these situations with two scared people.

559
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: So it's automatically a powder kid. It's it's bound to

560
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: erupt at any minute, right, So it's it's literally the

561
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: scariest moment. Like I remember, I remember doing a ride

562
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: along in Washington Heights. Mind you, the cops were walking

563
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: through one of the projects. We smell weed. The cops

564
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: is like, yo, let's just walk down the steps. So

565
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: the kids get out of the hallway, walk down the steps,

566
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: and the kids are as soon as they see the cops,

567
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: they're so hostile and they're grabbing for their waist and

568
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: they're pulling out their phones. I'm scared, like on something

569
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: like oh, like damn, that's wilds. Like nobody I'm standing

570
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: behind the wall so I don't so nobody see that

571
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: the wilds with the cops come to the cops different situations.

572
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm like, yo, like to see what

573
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: this situation could literally turn into. Where I was that kid,

574
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Like I remember being that kid, Like yo, I didn't

575
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: do nothing like and being so hostile and himp got

576
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot to do it that though, absolutely, because we

577
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: grew up, we taught the kids after cops and pigs

578
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: and people have a lot to do. That's what I'm

579
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: saying that it's a there's a there's a whole like

580
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: which came first to checking on the egg situation. But

581
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day where we are right now,

582
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's what happened with that intident. The

583
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: kids finally just breeze off, but after a while, but

584
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: it was it took a minute. It didn't make you

585
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: think like what can be done to make these relationships

586
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: better between regular people and the police. I think the

587
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me, I after doing it. Another story,

588
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: one of the days that we h that I had

589
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: to actually do this scene where the kid gets shot

590
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: was the day that filndol cast still got wow. So yeah,

591
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: so mind you. I'm I walk in my trailer, I'm

592
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: looking at my phone. I see the whole thing because

593
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Shorty video take the whole thing on her on on

594
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Facebook Live. So I'm watching my on my phone. I'm

595
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: not even paying attention to what the call. She says,

596
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: or anything. I just walk in my trailer, not realizing

597
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: what I gotta do today, walk in and I see

598
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: my police uniform like dead smack in front of me,

599
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: automatically burst into tears, like couldn't hold back, couldn't even

600
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: go on set for like two hours. Producers had to

601
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: come in just talk to me like yo, like listen,

602
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: you're doing this for a reason, like keeping questioning whether

603
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: you even wanted to do it exactly. I don't won't

604
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: be no people exactly like it was. It was one

605
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: of those moments where I'm like, am I doing this

606
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: for the right reasons? And I remember Gina coming in

607
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: to my to my to the to the trailer and

608
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: just and talking to me and saying like, listen, you

609
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: gotta understand this is this is this is as hard

610
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: for you as it is for us, and this is

611
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: gonna be something bigger than all of us. So like

612
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: just stick it out like we got you, Like this

613
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't something that's bad. This is something that's

614
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: going to start the right conversation to hopefully drive people

615
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Is there gonna be a lesson

616
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: learned or is it just it just profiting off it's

617
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: definitely going to be a lesson learned. And if there's

618
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: anything that, if there's if it, if Gina and Reggie

619
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: are involved, you will definitely always get a lesson learned.

620
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: You'll always get like the right like it. They always

621
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: land right on the mark. Now, I know why you're

622
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna have time, because if you're a cop in North Carolina,

623
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: a black cop who kills a white guy, you're gonna

624
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: die in the first season, probably first few episodes. Ready

625
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: for the break season. You gave the first three episodes.

626
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Hey, man, just watch the show, all right,

627
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. I'm

628
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Speaker 1: in every episode. Okay, Okay, there you go, and the

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Speaker 1: race premier is February twenty h one. Shots Fired premieres

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Speaker 1: Mars twenty seconds after the entire on Fox TV. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate your jor the album winning. The album's coming soon.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're a hip hop fan, we got

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Speaker 1: the brakes for you. If you if you want to

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Speaker 1: if you want to start a conversation about the social

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Speaker 1: climate and what's going on in our world right now,

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Speaker 1: we got Shots Fired for you. And if you just

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Speaker 1: want to vibe out and get some good music in

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Speaker 1: your life. We got the album for you, so we

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Speaker 1: don't know what y'all girls are waiting on to get

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Speaker 1: this baby from macwatter? Do you see all this money

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Speaker 1: this man is getting. Macwise is a best though, take

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Speaker 1: Moody to tame him. I know information macis. It's a

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Speaker 1: breakfast club. Good morning. Yeah, it's time for Donkey of

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Speaker 1: the day. So being Dunky of the day a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a mill so like a dope the other day. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've been called a lot of my twenty three years.

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Speaker 1: That Donkey of the day is a new wife. Me

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Speaker 1: being the devil is an alternative fact. Okay. Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: team is officially the greatest castle comedians ever. Not the

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Speaker 1: cast of The Chappelle Show, not the Cassimine, Living Color,

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Speaker 1: not the cast of S and Now, not the cast

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta, Blackish, Insecure, none of that. Donald Trump's team

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Speaker 1: with the funniest without even trying. Okay, it's not the

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Speaker 1: funniest sitcom a reality show on television right now. In fact,

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Speaker 1: what they have going on would be called an alternative

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Speaker 1: reality show, the first of it's kind. Okay, and I

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Speaker 1: personally thoroughly enjoy it simply because I'm not gonna sit

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Speaker 1: around and pout for the next four years. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just keep God first, live my life, get this money

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Speaker 1: so I can empower myself and others, and enjoy this

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Speaker 1: alternative reality show called the Trump Administration. Now we all

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Speaker 1: got eyes, all right, some of y'all were, actually they're

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Speaker 1: in DC this weekend. We saw the inauguration on TV. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and let's be clear, it just wasn't lit, wasn't popping,

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Speaker 1: wasn't a large crowd that as inaugurations go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's inauguration paled in comparison to the Woman's March.

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Speaker 1: Drop on a clue's bombs for the Woman's March, damn it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Woman's March had three times more people than Trump's

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Speaker 1: inauguration crowd. Crowd scientists say it was at about four

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand demonstrators in DC, compared to about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty for Trump's inauguration. I know what

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, I'm the President of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: I won already. Who cares how many people come to

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Speaker 1: the ring ceremony? I won? Give me my ring I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's how I would think, but I'm not an arcistic

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Speaker 1: epomaniac like some people. Clearly, this is what the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration cares about. But that's what happens when a country

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a command during chief, but a celebrity in chief. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: the National Press Secretary Foss celebrity in chief, came to

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Speaker 1: his defense this weekend during a press conference. Shaun Spice

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Speaker 1: is what they call him. He claimed, the crowd to

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Speaker 1: witness Trump's inauguration Friday was the biggest of all time. Brilliant, Ringly, brothers,

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Speaker 1: don't believe me. Listen to yourself. Photographs of the inaugural

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Speaker 1: proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet,

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Speaker 1: to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the

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Speaker 1: National Mall. We do know a few things, so let's

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Speaker 1: go through the facts. We know that from the platform

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Speaker 1: where the president was sworn into, Fourth Street holds about

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand people. From Fourth Street to

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Speaker 1: the media tent is about another two hundred and twenty thousand,

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Speaker 1: and from the media tent to the Washington Monument another

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Speaker 1: another two hundred and fifty thousand people. All of this

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Speaker 1: space was full when the president took the oath of office.

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Speaker 1: We know that four hundred and twenty thousand people used

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Speaker 1: the DC Metro public transit yesterday Jesus, which it actually

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Speaker 1: compares to three hundred and seventeen thousand. They used it

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Speaker 1: for President Obama's last inaugural h if he's the largest

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Speaker 1: audience to ever witness an inauguration. Periods where these attempts

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Speaker 1: to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong.

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Speaker 1: National Pressed Secretary Sean Spicer just up there pressed telling lie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not only did he tell a lie, he had reasonings

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Speaker 1: for his lie. The white top laid out in front

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Speaker 1: of the Capitol script security measures led the attendees getting

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Speaker 1: there late. Sean's not like a club promoter trying to

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Speaker 1: tell the DJ why he can't pay him all his

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Speaker 1: money at the end of the night, Like stop trying

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Speaker 1: to sell me a dream. I know why you can't

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Speaker 1: pay me because nobody showed up. But Sean Spicer wasn't

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Speaker 1: the only person in the Trump administration who was trying

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Speaker 1: to sell America a dream. Kelly Anne Conway, Trump's senior

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Speaker 1: advisor was on ABC's This Week and when presston Watch

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Speaker 1: Spicer said things that weren't true, she gave us a

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Speaker 1: term that pretty much is gonna sum up everything the

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Speaker 1: administration stands for the Trump administration, let's hear it. They

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Speaker 1: got to answer the question of why the president asked

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Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary to come out in front

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Speaker 1: of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood.

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Speaker 1: Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of

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Speaker 1: the entire White House Press Office. So don't be so

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Speaker 1: overly dramatic about it. Chuckle what you're saying, it's a falsehood,

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Speaker 1: and they're giving Sean Spicer, our Press secretary, gave alternative

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Speaker 1: facts to that. But the point alternatives four to five facts,

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Speaker 1: the others we're just not true. Look, alternative facts are

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Speaker 1: not facts, they're falsehood. Drop one of clues bombs for

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Speaker 1: alternative facts damaged the new sexy way to say lies.

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Speaker 1: If you're married, stop saying you're having an a fan.

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Speaker 1: Just say you have an alternative relationship. Have a baby

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Speaker 1: with another woman other than your wife, a girlfriend. That's

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Speaker 1: an alternative child. You hif you positive and you don't

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Speaker 1: want to tell people your status. Just say you've got

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Speaker 1: alternative blood cell. The possibility is an endless speak. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy fan, alternative relationship. Okay, shut up, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy fan. In my mind, we didn't lose

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay last week. Alrighty, we beat Atlanta yesterday. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: in my mind, we are the alternative NFC champion. Since

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Speaker 1: facts don't matter anymore and we can just create our

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Speaker 1: own alternative realities, let me live my lie. Okay. See,

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Speaker 1: this is the reality of the situation. The reason people

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Speaker 1: didn't show up the Trumps inauguration is because we live

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Speaker 1: in a world full of sneaky Trump supporters, and nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to admit they voted for Trump. So being that

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to admit they voted for Trump, of course

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't show up to the inauguration. The rest of

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Speaker 1: its supporters probably can't afford to come. You're in the

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Speaker 1: backwoods and Mississippi somewhere. You want to support your guy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to day, say Baba, Jake, clean us gas

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Speaker 1: off the truck. We had it north? Which way to day?

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Speaker 1: Say follow the sun. Look the support us in the

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Speaker 1: backwoods couldn't make it all right. They couldn't make it

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Speaker 1: to the inauguration. They got hogs. Intend to all right.

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Speaker 1: Will Rogers once said a fool and his money are

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00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: soon elected. We're hearing that Donald Trump is president, and

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00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: that is not an alternative fact. That is a reality.

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Speaker 1: So let's just all enjoy the show, that entertainment and

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00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: the content they provide for us all, and just pray

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Speaker 1: we all don't die in the process. Give Sean Spicson

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: and Kelly Ann Conway the biggest Hea Hall please. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,

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Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building again, my brother.

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Speaker 1: He's always up. He's part of the Breakfast Club. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Mike Werck Dyson. Yes, sir, it's so good to be

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Speaker 1: back here with y'all. That's your chair that night, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I feel it. I'm at home. And now last time

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Speaker 1: you was here, you was releasing the book Tied. We

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Speaker 1: cannot stop. Yes, sir, the book released, it was number

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Speaker 1: eight on the New York Times Best Sellers. Let's drop

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Speaker 1: on the clue's bombs for that night I was reading

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Speaker 1: that book when I was getting my hair done, and

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Speaker 1: everybody in the beauty type of excuse me, can I

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Speaker 1: see that book that you're reading? What is that about? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Nice title alone gets a lot of attention, yes, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: it's been incredible. Man, I've been getting of course, I

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Speaker 1: get the white hate mail, but I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of white love based on that. A lot of white

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Speaker 1: people saying this is ironic. They said, you're actually speaking

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Speaker 1: for us. This is the kind of stuff we wanted

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Speaker 1: to say to people we love, but we couldn't say

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Speaker 1: it in a certain way. So they said, we're just

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Speaker 1: giving your book to them. I said, man, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Yeah, because I didn't feel like there's

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Speaker 1: nothing in your book that is any type of hatred

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Speaker 1: towards white people, not at all. If anything, you're asking

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Speaker 1: white America to use this privilege to combat to prejudice

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Speaker 1: that we're see. That's that's beautifully put. Man, That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to ask them

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Speaker 1: to peak beneath the veil, so to speak right. The

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Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz ain't who you think he is. So

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Speaker 1: I'm asking white people to see whiteness as that artificial

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Speaker 1: construction and get behind the curtain and then take off

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Speaker 1: the burden of that whiteness, because that whiteness hurts white

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Speaker 1: people as much, ironically enough, as it hurts black, brown, red,

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Speaker 1: and yellow people too. Now we had a discussion about

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Speaker 1: Adela and Beyonce up here. Man, I know you upset

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Speaker 1: Beyonce lost Album of the Year because you dedicated your

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Speaker 1: book to her. You know, you know I am. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is, look, I love Adele. You know when

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Speaker 1: I went to one of Beyonce's concerts, the one in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: because I went to three of them on this tour.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got to hit multiple Beyonce concerts and

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Speaker 1: you know I was up there with Adele's people. So

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Speaker 1: I love Adele. I love what she represents. This is

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Speaker 1: bigger than the individuals because it's clear that Beyonce and

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Speaker 1: Adele have a special, significant, beautiful, affectionate relationship, and especially

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Speaker 1: in public, two superstar women loving each other has a

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Speaker 1: political consequence. You saw it some when you saw say,

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Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj and Taylor Swift, But it always gets complicated

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Speaker 1: by the issue of race. Remember when Taylor thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: Nicki was signifying on her about skinny women and you

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Speaker 1: can't get recognized, and then Taylor went off on her

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Speaker 1: and then she had to put her in check. It's

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Speaker 1: always that tension, but with Adele and Beyonce, it's been

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Speaker 1: a rather remarkable, kind of romantic in the best sense

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Speaker 1: of that word, relationship between the two. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: it was thievery pure and simple, and what it is

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Speaker 1: to me in the era of Trump, it's the emergence

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Speaker 1: of black genius up against white mediocrity. I'm not talking

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00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: about Adele now, I'm talking about Donald Trump. Adele is

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Speaker 1: a significant and great craftswoman. She's a songstress of the

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Speaker 1: first order. You probably wouldn't have seen Beyonce start a

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Speaker 1: song and then stop it because her yen for perfection

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Speaker 1: is so deep, her preparation is so thorough, her respect

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Speaker 1: for her craft is so incredible that when Steve Style

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Speaker 1: came to my jay Z class at Georgetown, he said,

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Speaker 1: the two hardest working people I've ever met in my

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Speaker 1: life Kobe Bryant Beyonce. So we know her level of

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Speaker 1: preparation is legendary and probably would have prevented something like

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Speaker 1: that from occurring. But beyond that, as great as Adele is,

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Speaker 1: she is not Beyonce. If we can't have a black

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Speaker 1: woman who is the greatest entertainer in the world today,

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Speaker 1: and not just on stage though that is the performer

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Speaker 1: development is quite extraordinary. I'm talking about what she did

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Speaker 1: with her music. You release an album like Lemonade the

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Speaker 1: same way you did the previous album Beyonce a visual album.

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Speaker 1: It comes with the batteries included. You've got every video

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Speaker 1: right thought out. You've got not only that, the thematic

837
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: consistency of that album there, then you've got what she's

838
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: doing with her voice. People don't recognize Beyonce's genius in

839
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: terms of fusing, singing, and rapping. I mean what she's

840
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: done on those last two albums in Church, she could

841
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: spit with the best of them. She could spit with

842
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: her husband, and we know what a remarkable genius is.

843
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: So I'm saying she doesn't get recognition for the craft

844
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: of what she does. She doesn't get recognition as a

845
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: woman or a Black woman, for the extraordinary time and

846
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: effort she puts into what she does. It's like black athletes, Oh,

847
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: you must be born that way, Lebron, you must have

848
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: those skills kill but you got those skills, Serena Williams,

849
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: You got those skills. No, that's hard work and genius,

850
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: which is a devastating consequence. So for me, when I

851
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: see Beyonce being denied, I'm asking, where is Kanye West

852
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: when you need him? Where is Kanye to go up

853
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: on stage and say slow down, hold up? We know

854
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: that as good as Adele is, she did not deserve

855
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: the double if you will double that she got winning

856
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: the Big Three Awards twice, the only figure ever to

857
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: do it in an era, much less in a year

858
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: when Beyonce has unleashed her genius on the world. And

859
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: not only did Beyonce do it sonically and thematically, she

860
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: did it in terms of politics. She put on blasts

861
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: those forces of white supremacy and other oblivion to black

862
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: culture that would try to hurt us. And she represented

863
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: in such a powerful way for black lives matter, insistence

864
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: that our lives are significant and should be held in

865
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: high regard. She did all of that, yes, though a

866
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, while she's pregnant, leaning back in

867
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: the chair, announcing the birth of her twins to come,

868
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: and totally dominating the rhetorical, the majesty of the entertaining

869
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: and the incredible art of what it means to make

870
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: an album and to perform so at that level, Black

871
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: genius will always be punished by white mediocrity. It will

872
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: always be punished by In this case, excellence in white

873
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: culture has to, in one sense go up against the

874
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: extraordinary genius of black culture. Think about it. For instance,

875
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I love him too. When my man Kendrick Lamar should

876
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: have won the album who ended up winning mc lamore. Now,

877
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: McLamore is a great artist. McLamore is a conscientious great artist.

878
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: McLamore is a conscientious white great artist who understands what's

879
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: at stake. But what did he say? I know Kendrick

880
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Lamar deserved that. What did A Dell say? I know

881
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: that I can't accept this. Though she took the award

882
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: win her, she did not give that to Beyonce. She

883
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: knew that she didn't deserve that. The same way when

884
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: Kanye went up on that stage, and I happened to

885
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: be there that night, I was there that night at

886
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: the Video Music Awards when Kanye was went up on stage. Yeah,

887
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: was he drunk? Maybe maybe so? But what was his point?

888
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: Was it? Rude, of course, but what was his point?

889
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: It was so righteous. His point was, I am tired

890
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: of standing by seeing black genius unrewarded when we know

891
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: the superior artist has been denied. I bet you, I

892
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: bet you. Chuck Berry was at home going where was

893
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Kanye when I needed them? When they were giving my

894
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: awards to Pat Boone, I bet you Little Richard was

895
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: at home saying where were you when they were giving

896
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: my awards to Elvis Presley? Elvis Presley undeniable genius himself,

897
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: but not the originator of rock and roll and the

898
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: ability to write the same way Chuck Berry was. And

899
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: now Beyonce robbed in a serious way. And if the

900
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: most recognizable Black woman, arguably on the globe, the most talented,

901
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: the most ingenious, the most creative, can't get her due,

902
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: this is symbolic of something bigger than an individual artist

903
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: being snubbed. This is about the politics of race. This

904
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: is about the politics of race and gender, and this

905
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: is about the politics of blackness in an era of vast,

906
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: unreachable white mediocrity that Donald Trump represents. All right, well,

907
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: we had one with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back,

908
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: keeping lois to Breakfast Club, Good Morning, Price of Planet.

909
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: I go by the name of Charlomagne, the d Indian

910
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: angela yet hit with the world most Dangerous morning show

911
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club, and we have one of my guys,

912
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on the planet, somebody I

913
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to. Nobody better to have on this Barack

914
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Obama did. We're not calling it President's Day, Okay, We're

915
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: calling it Barack Obama Day because personally, I feel like

916
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: we have nothing to be proud of when it comes

917
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: to our current presidents. I guess we celebrate all the

918
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: presidents before this one. But nobody better to have in

919
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: the building than Michael Eric Dyson. Right now, you got

920
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: a question to lions. Tweeted out, there have only been

921
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: two black winners in the last twenty years for Album

922
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: of the Year. There have been over two hundred black

923
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: artists who have performed, right, That's what she tweeted out.

924
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: There's a couple of other incidents that happened recently, like

925
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley that parents getting banned from the garden. The

926
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: other same some time and in their future, we will

927
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: be able to come out. But just even the way

928
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: that they oh yeah, I mean him out the way again.

929
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Now we talk about putting in the work. When Charles,

930
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: when Charles Oakley stepped on that court, and that's my generation.

931
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: I saw that brother play. When Charles Oakley stepped on

932
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: that court, he brought every fiber of energy, of work, ethic,

933
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: of sweat, ethic that God gave him to bear for

934
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: those owners for whom he played and the teammates that

935
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: he loved and adored and embraced. You know, from whether

936
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: he was playing with Scottie and Michael Jordan's Chicago and

937
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: then coming into New York and transforming the work culture. Right,

938
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about a blue collar you know, a hat

939
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: in his hand and a pail in his hand, workman.

940
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Charles Oakley was the ultimate enforcer, the ultimate muscle,

941
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: and gave his all for the team. He's earned his

942
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: right to be critical of mister Dolan. He's earned his

943
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: right to be critical of other players who haven't stepped

944
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: up to the plate. I mean, that's the nature again

945
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: of black genius. When Lebron steps up, he's bringing the

946
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: noise to everybody in the ruckis Michael Jordan was no

947
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: walk through the park, Kobe Bryant, These men of genius

948
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: or Serena Williams. This is no teeth of the fever.

949
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: This is an extraordinary demand. So why then toss him

950
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: a man out like that? Treat him like a common thug,

951
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: chump him. And I'm gonna tell you what else gets

952
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: revealed is that Phil Jackson as great as he was

953
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: at one point, maybe revealing that you know, heck, you

954
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: and I could have coached the Chicago Bulls or the

955
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers if we had Kobe Bryant and Shack

956
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: and if we had Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. Now

957
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: your genius is being challenged. It looks like Gregg Popovich

958
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: is a far more significant and serious coach and and

959
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: and Phil Jackson looks like a petulant child. He's an

960
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: appropriate kind of gem for New York in the age

961
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: of Trump, because even though he doesn't offensibly share his politics,

962
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: what he does share is a kind of narcissistic self engagement,

963
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: trying to cover it over with his Zen spirituality when

964
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the day you end up being

965
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: nothing more than a jerk and at and at the

966
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, Phil Jackson's inability to even acknowledge

967
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: a Camerlo Carmelo Anthony. Now, you gave Anthony the dough

968
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: and you gave him the ability not to be traded.

969
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you acknowledge what

970
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: he brought to the table, and now you want to

971
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: just loud talk him. You want to make snide remarks

972
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: and comments. I mean again, the inability to grapple with

973
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: and recognize the significant contribution of even a so called

974
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: complicated black people. Black people don't get allowed, aren't allowed

975
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: to be complicated. Wife, get get get complicated. They're eccentric,

976
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: their geniuses black people do it. You're a thug, You

977
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: have no ability to fit in with the others. No,

978
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm coloring outside the lines because my name is Picasso.

979
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: So now they don't recognize our genius and then shunting

980
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: us off as a pathological expression of things they want

981
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: to throw away. In Charles Barkley, Charles Oakley got played

982
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: the same way. Now, I felt like Adele missed the moment.

983
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: And know how we talk about how you can use

984
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: your privilege to combat prejudice, like when she said the

985
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: whole thing about Beyonce's music makes my black friends feel

986
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: like they can stand up for themselves. I felt like

987
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: she should have said, Beyonce's music makes me want to

988
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: stand up for black people. Friends. There it is, there,

989
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: it is. That's a brilliant point, because the ultimate active

990
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: white privilege is to share it as much as you can,

991
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: to deconstruct it, to to unmask it, and to say,

992
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't deserve it, so so standing there,

993
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: she might have said that. She might have said, we

994
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: all know that as much as I love you and

995
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: appreciate you for recognizing me and what I've been through,

996
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: we all know that this black woman sitting before me

997
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: is the greatest, the greatest entertaining and if you will,

998
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: esthetic and melodic and harmonic and musical presence on the

999
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: globe right now. And we should all defer to her

1000
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: and recognize that. And if the award committee doesn't do it,

1001
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: I will hear Beyonce, let me give this to you.

1002
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: You are the woman who deserves it. No, she doesn't

1003
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: have that kind of grace or that kind of acknowledgement

1004
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: that her own privilege has to exist only at the

1005
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: expense of Beyonce. And this is what a lot of

1006
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: white folk don't understand. The white privilege you enjoy exists

1007
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: at the expense of somebody else being denied At that level,

1008
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: it is a zero some game. White privilege exists only

1009
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: because white folk didn't have to compete with the best

1010
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: of their genre. Right. Think about it, Babe, Ruth didn't

1011
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: compete against the greatest ball players. He competed to it's

1012
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: the greatest white ballplayers, right. I mean, you're right. And

1013
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: when white folk got into Harvard, before they started integrating it,

1014
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: you ain't competing against the smartest people. You're competing against

1015
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: the smartest white people. God knows you weren't competing against

1016
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: the smartest Latino or Asian people. In fact, they got

1017
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: a basic, you know, moratorium on the entry of certain

1018
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Asians out in California, a quota if you will, former

1019
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: or not, where they limit the number of Asian brothers

1020
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: and sisters who were get in school because it was

1021
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: killing the numbers of white folk. As long as white

1022
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: folk were getting in there were black and brown people

1023
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: weren't no problem. I'm sorry. It's about a meritocracy, and

1024
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: merit determines the distribution of goods like employment or getting

1025
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: a seat in school. But when the Asians started whipping

1026
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: that white ass, all of a sudden it became a problem.

1027
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: The quota got enforced formally or informally, and now white

1028
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: competition with others who can beat them is regulated. So

1029
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: my point is, from the very beginning, white folk have

1030
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: been treated to an extraordinary level of privilege, and part

1031
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: of that privileged mean I don't have to face the

1032
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: best and the brightest. What you don't understand is that

1033
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: whiteness is built in with the ability to rig the

1034
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: competition in favor of the white guy. That's why Donald

1035
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: Trump's presidency is so apropos and this is why a

1036
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of white people don't want to recognize it's not

1037
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: simply about a crypto fascist creep in America. It's not

1038
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: about the denial of democracy. It's all that, But it's

1039
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: also about the fact that a mediocre white boy is

1040
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: occupying the most powerful position in the world and he

1041
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: is manifestly inferior and then capable of manning up or

1042
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: intellectualing up to be able to fit the office for

1043
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: which she has been elected. You know, my whole thing

1044
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: with that is is what about if she really didn't

1045
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: feel that way? Well, what about it if she felt that, Yeah,

1046
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: you made my black friends stand up and she didn't

1047
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: get that necessary feeling. I feel like sometimes we look

1048
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: for acceptance of people that we necessarily don't need acceptance from.

1049
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: That's true, I mean, but I thought that Charlemagne's point

1050
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: was she missed an opportunity to do so. But your

1051
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: point of people that way, well, that even more reinforces

1052
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: our point about her white privilege, because at least if

1053
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: she's conscious of it and doesn't make the gesture to

1054
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: unmask that privilege, that's one thing. But she's conscious of it,

1055
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: because we know she's conscious, because she's trying to fumble

1056
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: toward it makes my black friends, she's she's trying to

1057
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: get in that arena. She's in the arena, and in

1058
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: the she and in the section we're sitting in. She

1059
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: and in the VIP. But she in the arena, She

1060
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: in the arena. Your point is, what about she't even

1061
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: in arena? What about she doesn't feel that way? And

1062
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's part and parceible. That's the usual response,

1063
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: right if if she's not that's what white brothers and

1064
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: sisters usually possessed, that is no recognition at all. You

1065
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: talk to most white people about white privilege, the hell

1066
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: are you talking about right, I get I get emails,

1067
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: hate emails from white people. The hell are you talking about?

1068
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have any white privilege. I was poor,

1069
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: You got more white, you got more privileges. Job right?

1070
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And again they don't recognize right when they say, well,

1071
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: it's the white working class. We have to work. The

1072
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: white working class got protected too. How it kept out

1073
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: black people from unions, pipe fittersers. The white working class

1074
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: rigged the competition for themselves. When you were taking a

1075
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: test for a policeman or a fireman, you were given

1076
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: the hookup from within. On nine eleven. As tragic as

1077
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: that day was, why did most of the people who

1078
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: perished officially as firemen or policemen? Why were they white?

1079
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Because it reflected the deep lack of diversity and the

1080
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: hookup that white people have among certain unions, certain jobs

1081
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: and outfits. Just like you go to DC the parking people,

1082
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be easy open Ama sagalo. That's

1083
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: what it's going to be because they've been able to

1084
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: hone in on and horn in on that particular if

1085
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: you will, industry and allow it to share it with

1086
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: others of their people who come over here. So I'm

1087
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: telling you, white brothers have had the hookup, white sisters

1088
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: have had the hookup from the get go. So it

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising to me that if Adell didn't understand

1090
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: that didn't feel that felt that, hey, it makes those

1091
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: people feel better, but I still earned what I got.

1092
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: That would be characteristic of most white people who are unawoke,

1093
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: who are unaware, who are unconscious of that privilege, and

1094
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: when they step up to me. As I said before,

1095
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: the greatest privilege of a white person can have is

1096
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: to encounter a policeman on the street, and in the

1097
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: nasty freakis that might result from that, you live to

1098
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: tell the story about it. That is the ultimate form

1099
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: of white privilege. And then they've got nothing to do

1100
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: with how much money you got, where your zip code is,

1101
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: or who your mom and daddy are. Don't go anywhere.

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: We have more Michael Eric Dyson coming up next. It's

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Speaker 1: the world Most Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club. The

1104
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. That's right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.

1105
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: We have a special guest in the building, Michael Eric Dyson.

1106
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: We've been discussing this notion of privilege. We have, Malcolm

1107
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Gladwell love here. Do you think privilege is something only

1108
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: white people have? Absolutely not. I mean I have privilege.

1109
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: You have privilege. You have privilege as a male right.

1110
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: Because one of the untold stories is look, not only

1111
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: is Beyonce up against a legacy of inequity that is

1112
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: driven by supremacy, she's up against male supremacy too. In fact,

1113
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: she's up against a legacy of male supremacy and misogyny

1114
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: expressed by black men. Black men who are participated in

1115
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: calling women bitches and holes and skeezers and sluts and

1116
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: hood rats and chicken heads, who think of it as

1117
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: the expression of you know, my own ability to be

1118
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: liberated and emancipated to tell the truth about women. You unconscious, unwoke, negrow.

1119
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: What you're doing is perpetuating a legacy of patriarchy, which

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: is the belief that men's lives should determine the legitimate

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01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: forms of social existence, of misogyny which is the hatred

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: of women, or sexism, which is the belief that our

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01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: inclinations as men should set the baseline for what we

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: think is legitimate. We have practiced that too. Of course,

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01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: we have male privilege. We have male privilege when it

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01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: comes to black women, right, is a tremendous double standard.

1127
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: But black women have done more to protect black men

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01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: than any other group in America, including black men. Black

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: women have been on the cutting edge and on the

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: front line, standing up from us for us. I to

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01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: b Wells, Nanny, Helen Burrows, sept Mclark, Joanne Robinson, Ella Baker,

1132
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: Angela Davis, Mama, Yo, yo, mamma. But this is what

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: black men do. Love my mama, right, So we got

1134
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: the vertical right, but the horizontals jacked up. Hate my

1135
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: baby mama. Well, dude, your baby mama. It's somebody else's mama, yo,

1136
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: child's mama. So their adoration and reverence you have for

1137
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: your mother should be extended to your baby mother. Now

1138
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: we know that there's tremitt decision and we know it's

1139
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: back and forth, but the inability to recognize the fact

1140
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: that we have male privileged and a significant and serious

1141
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: fashion is a former privilege. We got class privilege too.

1142
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: If you've got more money than the next person over here,

1143
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: you don't have the same experience of blackness as a

1144
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: person working on the line, and the person on the

1145
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: line doesn't have the same experience of blackness as the

1146
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: person who's homeless. So there are always gradations and degrees

1147
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: of difference. But of course we have privilege. We have privileges.

1148
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Christians in a nation that demonizes Muslim people, Right, we

1149
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: go around and we look, Look, it ain't no problem

1150
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: if Tim Tebow takes a knee on the ground. It's

1151
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: a problem if one of the Muslim players, you know,

1152
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: prayed six times or in the middle of the field

1153
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: all praises due to a lie, that would be a problem.

1154
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: So the unconscious reproduction of privilege on multiple levels. One

1155
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: is religious, one is class, one is gender and sexual orientation.

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: Think about it. We live in a world people say, well,

1157
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind you know, gay people being gay,

1158
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: but why are you doing in front of my face?

1159
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: Now that's a million people out there kissing who are

1160
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: hedo sexual. You ain't got no problem with. But you

1161
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: got a problem with a gay, lesbian, transgender by sexual

1162
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: queer person showing their affections. So yeah, there's all kind

1163
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: of privilege that we have. And that's why I think

1164
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: under Trump, black people have to recognize we don't have

1165
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: the luxury or leisure to nurture in the bosom of

1166
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: our culture of bigotry doing somebody else like you know.

1167
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm a preacher too, I'm an ordained Baptist minister. I've

1168
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: been doing that for thirty seven years. I ain't been

1169
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: to no Black church to turn down gay tis all

1170
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: this homophobia, But they ain't cutting off the duct. They

1171
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: ain't saying, excuse me, because of our beliefs theologically, we

1172
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: will not receive your job. Hell no, they're taking all

1173
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: that money from gay lesbon, transgender, bisexual, queer people, and

1174
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: they ain't kicking them out the choir. I ain't seen

1175
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: no Black church that you cannot sing up in this

1176
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: quiet because it wouldn't be no good music and quiet

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01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: as it's kept. A lot of gay people are secretly

1178
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: gay preaching in the pulpit, that's a fact. Some of

1179
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: them are preaching homophobic sermons against gay people because they

1180
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: are secretly gay themselves, trying to forge connection with heterosexual

1181
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: people to to to deflect any suspicion of them themselves.

1182
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, they are all kinds of privileges that operate

1183
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: even when you are oppressed, you can to be an

1184
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: oppressor at the same time. My final question, mister dayson like, um,

1185
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: they hear us on this radio and they hear us

1186
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: talking all of this black stuff and pro black stuff.

1187
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Could you please let them know that that don't mean

1188
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: we hate white people, not at all. I mean, isn't

1189
01:03:54,840 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: this what Tina Lawson, you know, Tina Knows Lawson said

1190
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: on her daughter's album or Set at the Table. She said,

1191
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: why is it that if I say I love black people,

1192
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: you think I hate white people. We don't hate white folks.

1193
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: In fact, an argument can be made white black people

1194
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: love white people too much. Right, we love white people

1195
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: too much. We all hate y'all. We love y'all. We

1196
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: want to be like y'all. We want to do our

1197
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: hair the same way you do. And I'm not saying, Look,

1198
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about black people with straight hair, because

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: Africans did that. Africans experimented with their noses, their lips,

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: put rings and hoops with their hair. I think that's

1201
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: a that's an African thing to experiment what your hair,

1202
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: to experiment what your body. That's a beautiful improvisational ethic

1203
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: at the heart of our own African centered identity. But

1204
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the end of the day that

1205
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: don't mean that we hate white people. We have learned

1206
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: to think white right, white believe white, embrace whiteness as

1207
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: the norm. So it's not that we hate white. We

1208
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: love it too much. What we've got to do is

1209
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: to learn to love ourselves. And loving ourselves doesn't mean

1210
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: we hate you. It's not a zero something game. Look,

1211
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: if I like, if I like Shanique, what don't mean

1212
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: I hate Becky. It means that Becky has been acknowledged.

1213
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: Becky with the good hair done, got love from the birth,

1214
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: from the crib, from the cradle. But Shanique, what has

1215
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: been told that she's not beautiful? And the irony is

1216
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: once we begin to embrace ourselves and you love yourself,

1217
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: you don't hate nobody because you're so secure in who

1218
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: you are. You know that what you represent it's so powerful,

1219
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: so beautiful, so edifying, so uplifting. You ain't got to

1220
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: hate nobody else. So when you speak about black love

1221
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: and black self love, that's the most revolutionary radical thing

1222
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: in the world, is to love one's own self and

1223
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: to love one's own group. But white brothers and sisters

1224
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: don't get mad. You love your children, you love your

1225
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: particular tribes, you love the names you give them. We

1226
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: don't think that you hate us, but you are often

1227
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: indifferent to us. You are oblivious to us. We just

1228
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: don't matter. As as the great ethicist said, the opposite

1229
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: of love is not hate, it's difference. It's one I

1230
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: don't I don't make a difference to you. You don't

1231
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: even care about me, as those black people say, you

1232
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: ain't even stutting me. So once we learn to love ourselves,

1233
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: all the pathologies that you think are out there White America,

1234
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: that are in our community will be reduced. All of

1235
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: the suffering that you think we bear, the traumas that

1236
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: we impose, can be significantly assuaged or at least reduced

1237
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: or ameliorated, and it is made better. And another thing,

1238
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm using them words because I want you to look

1239
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: them up. I'm using them words because I'm telling you

1240
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: people in circles that you don't have access to use

1241
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: them against you. And I want young black people to

1242
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: use these words, to know what a dictionary is, to

1243
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: know what a thesaurus is. To use those words not

1244
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: to impress anybody, not to obscure knowledge, but because in

1245
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: circles you don't have access to in higher education, and

1246
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: in government and in employment. They are using such terms

1247
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: to demonize you and put you into a box. Never

1248
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: be afraid of a word. Challenge it, Learn it every day.

1249
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: So I challenge you all out there, learn a new

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Speaker 1: word every day. Self love means learning, means unapologetically embracing

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Speaker 1: knowledge means unapologetically embracing your own culture. White folks, we

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Speaker 1: don't hate you. We love you just fine. But we

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Speaker 1: got to learn to love ourselves even more. And you

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Speaker 1: who have benefited from the lack of black self love,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be intimidated by Finally, the most revolutionary thing we

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Speaker 1: do is to tell each other I love you. That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of love we got to have for our people.

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Speaker 1: Michael Ary Dyson's word today or tis worded today? Either way,

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Speaker 1: you learned in a new word. Okay, Michael Eric Dyson.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us. Always good to be

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Speaker 1: on here. Thank y'all for having me on. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's a breakfast love glory.