WEBVTT - Free Massage with Richard Rushfield 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:07.920 It's nine pm in Mitchell, South Dakota, and you're listening 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:23.239 to Night Call. Welcome to nine Call, a podcast for 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.960 your strange days and lily nights. My name is Emily Rachida. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.840 I am in New York and with me on the 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.840 other line all the way over in Los Angeles, Molly 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:44.000 Lambert and Oh that Mind Melt, Tess Lynch and also 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:50.080 the Anglers Richard rush Field on the podcast today. Hello Richard, Hello, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.720 I want to get in on the A thing you can. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.160 Our producer Roy Tests wrote an intro for Richard with 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.960 information about you. I mean, I do want to mention. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.680 As I mentioned to Molly, and this was news to 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.880 her that Richard, you were a producer on one of 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.320 my favorite shows of all time, the only, the only resume, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.880 Adam I have that anyone wants to talk about so exciting, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.320 which means that you are. I am now one degree 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:19.440 of separation from Roger Lodge. You are Roger Lodge. We were, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.200 We were close for two and a half months. I 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:28.240 feel like a whole separate episode just about Richard's experiences 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.560 on Blind Date. She signed an n D. A is 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.319 with his face is telling me right, No, I'll tell 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.840 somebody did some kind of tell all about being on 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.160 um Blind Date recently? Is that what the show was? 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.800 They're rebooting it right now. The new Blind Date is 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.760 being filmed right The old Blind Date was the best. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.040 It's a timeless format. Yeah. It was the pop up 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.480 video of love. I saw it being filmed once in 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.840 Venice Beach and they the couple had run into the 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.320 ocean naked together, and I asked the PA how it 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.000 was going, and he was like, well, she took her 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.240 shirt off. That's as good as it can get. It 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.080 was a different time. It was a different time. I'll 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.640 just did so. I had this job as a producer 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.600 on Blind Date, where my job was to watch people 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.400 on dates and make fun of them. Uh. And I 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.760 sat there the entire time saying like, I'm an artist, 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.880 I'm a group. It's not even my own name on 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.000 this I and people think they could rewrite my jokes. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.000 And I was just cranky and crotchety. And I walked 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.040 away from that job to to return to journalism, and 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.880 about two seconds out the door, I said, what the 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.880 what the hell have I do? Don't ever any time 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.320 your principals tell you you need to walk out a 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.000 place just just just take a few nights to sleep 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.799 on that. So you had a diva attack on Blind Date. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.920 I left Blind Date after one season. Did you go 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.720 to the l a times after Blind Date or no? 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:58.400 I went to be a freelance freelance journalist. And we 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:03.839 all made choice to go into journalism. I didn't make 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.119 the choice. We didn't make my choice, I maintained my narratives. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.760 I never made the choice. The choice made me. I 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.600 maintained that too. I agree, I got out. I wasn't 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.560 trying to get into journalism. I just accidentally did, and 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.880 we all, you know what, it's an important thing that 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.520 people should do, and but advised a millennial, not anything 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.880 that I do. If I was if I was doing 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:32.119 hard hitting reporting about like the city or or housing 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.480 in Los Angeles or something like that, I would I 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.400 would be like, you know what, I can't take myself 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.720 away hitting work. There's movie criticism is is useful in 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.560 its own way. There are things. My feeling about the 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.400 Internet was always like people are bored at work, and 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.800 they like having like a little thing to read that 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.200 gives them like a little vacation in their mind from 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.120 how bored they are at work being on their computer. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.240 Then that became the entire internet, Like that became the 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:02.600 model of the Internet. Exactly. Bring back narrative, long form 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.480 programming like blind Date. Yes, exactly, the important stuff, the 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:11.800 cultural touchstones. Yeah. Wait. Richard also wrote the book on 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:16.320 American Idol, The Untold Story. So now I've done. But 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.320 I just have to say, like Richard is, that's how 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.040 Richard and I met. Richard and I met while we 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:26.280 were in the trenches of idol coverage circa or so um. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.680 And it was around the time the book came about. Yeah, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.680 it wasn't It was not prime idol time. It's true, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.320 it was. It was the kind of gold on Golden Pond. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:40.040 It was like the Philip Philip Phillips era. Didn't you 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:46.159 like Philip Phillips, very charismatic, young gentleman a name. Absolutely, Wait, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.160 that's a good that's the best look. And Emily, do 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.640 either of you still watch American Idol if you want 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.680 to come and hate a topic, write a book about it. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.560 Spent a year where with nothing but American Idol in 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.440 my life. I don't think I've watched the whole episode 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:07.360 that feeling, for sure, smoke the whole pack exactly after that, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.280 we want to take just a moment to do a 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.479 night call emotional well being check in, uh, because it's 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:25.520 been a really awful week, month, year, just you know, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.159 especially feels bad. So we wanted to say that, like, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.600 we would also like this podcast to serve as a 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.800 place where people feel like it can be a nice 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.599 bubble bath away from reality, but we also acknowledge that 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.520 reality sucks right now, and we hope that in between 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:48.479 listening to us talk about ghost hunting, you are making 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.960 the calls you need to make, both to your representatives 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.000 and also to the loved ones in your life that 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.960 might need you right now, and just generally taking care 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.680 of yourself and the people in your life because and 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.640 taking it offline is the thing we've all been talking 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.839 about a lot group about this is that you gotta 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.040 you know, it's it's fine to be frustrated on the internet, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.280 but ultimately that has to lead to action in real 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.920 life and go in to real places. And definitely feels 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.679 like things will have to happen if other things happen 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.880 right now, I won't go any further than that. Also, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.599 the week between when we record and when we post 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.400 is um has has been, I think on all of 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.520 our minds because they're you know, from week to weeks 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.680 it's years and years and years of garbage news unfolding. Um, 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.400 but we're recording on Monday, and uh, this is the 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.680 you know, we just had the weekend following the Kavanaugh testimony. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.919 So yeah, if you are having, as they say, big feelings, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.479 we hope that you're taking care of yourself and we 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.400 are here to listen. Uh, the world is going to 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.560 be so much worse by the time that's post. You what, 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:05.719 I know, it's really or or well take some buildings over. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.800 My feeling is like all the people who came out 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.720 to the Women's March, like, now is the time to 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.880 come back out and you know, maybe blog off some 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.480 freeways and stuff because society shouldn't function if Kabanagh gets 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.040 yeah agree, you know. Um, so that is our that 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.160 is our night call, emotional well being check in and 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:31.960 now we'll get back to the demon stories. Yeah. So 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.720 we wanted to have Richard on not only because he's 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.120 a great friend and um, a good talker about all 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.560 things and worked on blind Date, but also because I 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:46.480 feel like Richard has seen and had more paranormal and 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.680 our ghost related experiences than maybe anybody else I know. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.840 And it just seemed so like such a no brainer. 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.640 Last time I was in l A, we kind of 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.560 got to talking about some of his experiences and I 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.240 was like, what, you just have to come on the 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:06.880 show and tell everybody I've lived a rich paranormal life. Yeah, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.440 it's it feels like you won the ghost lottery. Well, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.400 I'll just keep coming to you, Okay, It's kind of 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.880 seek and you shall find. Uh. It's I I went 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.000 through a long period where it's very interested in ghosts 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.200 and pretty much asked every person I met everywhere, have 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.880 you ever seen a ghost? Or or or alie. I 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.920 was open to alien stories also, and you have phoe stories. Uh. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.000 And if you ask everybody you meet, you'll get and uh. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.680 And I was young, so I was still going out 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.480 and meeting people at encountering people in my life. Uh, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.280 you'll you get a lot of good stories. And I 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.520 think you also open yourself up to a to an 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:48.080 extra dimensional experience in other ways that that I'm probably 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.960 not very there. There might be ghost tapping me on 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.320 the shoulder all the time right now and and and 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.320 I'm just missing them. But it's been a long time 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.360 when you've opened your heart up as a seeker. In 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:02.880 other words, exactly without without judgment. I feel like we 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.200 don't have enough time to go overall, which is really 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.800 saying something like that's impressive in and of itself. But 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.240 we had a few that we definitely wanted to hear 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.760 from you. Maybe in ascending order of spookiness, maybe we 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.680 can get some spooky sound effects under this. Yeah, I 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:28.960 didn't bring my own. Well, shall we start with the 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:33.080 inappropriate ghost this? This this is a pretty straight forward 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.880 ghost story. But I was back in my college days. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.679 I went to school in western Massachusetts and at Smith College, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.120 which was a neighboring school, there was a house that 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.120 was a pre revolutionary house, and every woman that lived 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.240 there had had some sort of experience. Um, they saw 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.520 things fly across the room, they heard their names, said, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.680 I do. Two roommates that woke up in the middle 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.320 of the night and saw this man standing standing between 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.480 their bed looking down at them. My experience in the 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.079 house wasn't as dramatic as that. I stayed one night 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.640 in the guest room of of this house, and all 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.240 of a sudden, the middle of the night, I woke 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.280 up with a start, and just as I woke up, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.320 the door to the room creaks open, just doesn't doesn't 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.400 just open, a type of opens up all the way 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.680 and then I feel on my back with the pressure 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:35.000 of a hand ice cold fingers slowly runned down. Uh my, 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.680 my entire spine, all the way all the way down 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:45.000 to the base. Yes, and no one was there, no one, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.319 did you hear it was? It was about three or 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.320 three in the morning. My, it was a very cold night. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.400 My house was about two or three miles away, and 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.520 I got up and walked home through the snow those 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.080 two or three miles. I'm not the person that stays 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:08.040 in the Amityville house after Yeah, um, what does it mean? 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.880 What's the significance? I can't say, But yeah, what do 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.240 you think they were trying to tell you? You said? 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:17.200 You said it was a desirous BackRub, lascivious intent. Was 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.520 my takeaway? That that was? That was how it felt 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.880 to me. It was. It did not feel like a 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.040 like a kind of just friendly pat on the back, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:31.240 you feel violated. It was aub throwing, paranormal, creepy back rub. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.040 And see how see how you like that? Well? You know, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.960 I could be like if some person might be into it, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:42.199 they might be like, oh, a free BackRub, um, if 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.560 it could be the beginning of a teen like y 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:49.160 a novel. There's like some people who have had consensual 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.720 sex with ghosts. I think maybe that's impossible. Reget Nielsen. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.040 I want to say, how does she know it's consensual? 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.080 Because the ghost tried to have sex with her and 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:03.240 she was like, la la cool. I don't I don't 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.280 know that this ghost had unpleasant hands. I mean I 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:11.280 think it was strong, powerful hands. I called, yes, access 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.640 your back for a background. It's so close to your 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.400 neck and you can throttle you. Yeah, that's true. It 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:24.000 gives me to create. Let's move on. So story number two. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:29.040 Uh so, my, we're in college still. My friend of mine, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.360 Sam had his mother had a ranch at in Malibu 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.160 where she had a Brazilian mystic visiting. Um, and we went. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.800 We we drove out to to see this Brazilian mystic. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.160 The story has two parts. What they have to do 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.920 with each other you be you be the judge. But 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.520 it doesn't seem that they are unrelated. Um, this this 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.720 Brazilian mystic. We get there. He's a he's an older gentleman. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.880 Probably about sixty said it there, drinking beard, smoking cigarettes 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.559 doesn't seem that holy. But he takes us to this 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.400 room one at a time and we lie on a 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.960 bed and uh, and he walks around the rooms are 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.360 huffing and puffing, and it's like little flashbulbs come out 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.280 of it and like purple or green or different colors. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.760 And he did that and I said, well, Rizio, what 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.520 was that about? And he said, oh, good for the 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.720 nervous system. Uh? And which which is? Which was the 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.520 only explanation he had. Uh. And then after after we 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.640 all had done that, we were sitting outside at this 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.000 table and the about ten of us there, and Rizio 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.599 said to uh, one of the people, he said, I 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.559 I think I feel something out in the field. You 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.560 come with me. And they walk out to the field 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.160 and they're they're they're walking, they're they're about a hundred 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.280 yards off and we just see them because every time 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.880 he steps, sparks come out from under his feet. But 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.760 this is what happens when you're a mystic. And they 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.560 get to a place two hundred yards away or something, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.800 and and all of sudden, this huge burst of light 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.480 comes out of Marittio's chest and you can sort of 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.400 see him illuminated that immediately after in the sky, this 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:12.839 cold orb picture the harvest moon about fift larger than that, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.760 blinks on and the sky and then blinks off. Then 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.840 about fifteen seconds as in another huge uh flashlight comes 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.760 out of Ritio and then the gold or flashes odd 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:30.720 flashes off and that happens a couple dozen times over 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.760 over the course of about ten minutes. And then Ritio 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.720 comes back and we say, Marazio, that was amazing. What 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.840 was that? He says, So, I didn see anything, I thought, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.600 So that was our explanation. So we're driving home from that. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:45.880 Uh here, we'll get to it. So that was an 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.960 extra dimensional part. Uh. Someone there suggested he had opened 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.120 up a portal to another dimension. Maybe Ritio didn't confirm that, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.520 but but given what's coming, you may look back on 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.360 that as a as a credible explanation. Uh. We're in 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:06.960 Sam's Broncho driving down Sunset, driving driving eastbound, and we're 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.560 going we're just passed Rusted Canyon. And what we're approaching 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.640 what you folks who grew up around here, no, as 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.600 dead Man's Curve, you know that big. So we're we're 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.560 going into that, and all of a sudden, the power 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.960 to Sam's car just dies's career as we're approaching it. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.280 We're about a hundred fifty yards out, we're approaching it, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.960 and the power is just God, it's just like it's 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.640 it's just as though someone just turned it off. And 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.000 we're coasting to a stop up ahead of us, going westbound. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.480 Coming towards us, this car comes screeching around the herb. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.120 Herb spins out, does a three sixty. It crashes into 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.320 a phone pole. Yes, exactly where we would have been, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.320 the exact spot where we would have been had the 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:56.360 power not knocked gone out. So are those two halfs 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:01.120 of the story port we give me be a good maybe? 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.680 Or maybe it was a demon with bad aim, or 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.280 maybe it was Hitler driving the other car and he 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.800 was being saved to go. Hitler didn't die on dead 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:15.600 Man's Curve the next because I spent like a week 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.480 reading about and this is all I would talk about 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.600 last week before the podcast. Well, you know, you know 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.200 where that curve actually is, but have you actually seen 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.800 that's the lamest dead Man's curve, That that curve is 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.440 like sort of just like, yeah, I always imagine I'm 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.280 confused which one you're talking about. What's what is it? 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.760 Is it like in like your Beverly Glenn or something no, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.360 between Rusta Canyon and the Riviera Palisades. But it's a 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.360 it's a pretty, a pretty baby dead Man's curve, right 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.520 that that one is amazing. The one I was at 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.080 was a major den Man's curve. The Jan and Dean 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.960 one is on it's right. Jandane one is interesting because 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.560 it's about three doors down from the house Buzzy Seagull 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.800 was shot in, so it's uh so, it's it's an 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.200 interesting little neighborhood there. Plus, I was reading about Jan 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.240 and Deane and she was like, oh, because one of 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.480 them was hot, and I was like, yes, correct, And 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.679 then I remember which one. Well. I found out that 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.399 they were you probably know this already, Richard, but that 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.320 they were all on the football team like Hollywood High. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.480 That's how they became a group, and that the other 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.800 guy in the group was James Brolin. They were the 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.560 football team because I just thought they were going to 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.439 be dorks, and then I was like, wait, Jane and 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.760 Dean were hot, and then it was like they were 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.800 football players who harmonized in the locker room. Don't ever 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.040 go look at that at that curve, You're gonna be 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.720 so let down. Well then also one of them was 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.840 in a car accident later, but not at that dead 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.880 man's curve, but like not too far from well that 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.359 that's that's where the accident where the the real life 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:43.520 accident was that what wasn't the wasn't They were conflated later. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.080 I always imagined being like in Palace fair days on 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.280 like a little twisty like canyon. I always a was 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.760 on Mulholland until I knew better, because the Holland is 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.600 just one big dead man. To be honest with you, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.880 the one the Palisades is uh is is a true 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.720 people were killed all the time. Can we get another 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.840 demon story? Yeah? Number three? So I was not the 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.920 one that I thought you were going to tell. So 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.920 I'm very curious. The one I remember you telling me 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:23.800 at Italy was about um. It was like somebody said 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.959 that you had Somebody said that you had opened up 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.520 your your soul to a ghost letter the wig board. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.679 The wig board one was a story that was a 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.119 very good story. It didn't actually happen to me. It 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.600 had to happen to a bunch of friends of mine. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.600 You should tell it anyway, because a perfect ghost story? 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.320 Is this the one I'm thinking of? Though I can't remember. Yeah. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:52.600 So if you go to the Brand Library in Glendale, UM, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.760 and there's a path if you go there at night, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.080 there's a path that leads up into the hills behind 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:01.000 it UM and if you get you go up. You 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.920 walk up that path about fifteen minutes and you'll see 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.479 a small a little trail that goes off it. And 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.159 you'll notice when you go down the trail that the 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.719 temperature suddenly drops when you come to a wrought iron 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:19.160 gate enclosing maybe Puritan way up in the mountains, there's 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:24.800 a pyramid. There's a stone pyramid about fifty ft high, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.919 uh in the hills above above Glendonale. It is the 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.280 Brand family, and I believe Brand family built Glendon Lit 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.480 there mine. Have you guys been there? It is so spooky. 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.439 Have you been there? Know? How about when you come 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.840 soon we will go and there's a pyramid, is what 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.359 we're going to get to. I've heard of it, but 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.240 I've never been there yet. I was driving around Glendale 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.840 one day and I like found it and I was like, 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.760 where did this come from. It was totally like a 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.879 spooky place that was suddenly planted there that I've never 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.600 noticed before. And it has like the library a building 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.080 is this sort of fake Moroccan style building, and it 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.800 was apparently built by the person who built the Chicago 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.320 World's Fair. And then it inspired a lot of the 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.600 sort of fake Spanish stuff in Glendale because it was like, 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.399 you know, a fancy person's building, and the people were like, 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.000 build me a little Spanish billa also. But it looks 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.439 very like a weird movie set um. It has like 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.600 and everybody I know who goes there says it's like 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.720 the weirdest place and what this is? How weird it 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.240 was for my friends for whom I went there and 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.680 told me the story together and swear by it. Uh 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.600 So you go there at night and the the gate 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.200 is closed. You have to climb over it. And they 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.840 came in and they brought a Luigi board, so they 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.560 climb over it. They feel very weird. They sit down, 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.639 they put the disc on the Luigi board and it 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:56.040 just starts spitting by itself and starts spitting wildly, and 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.280 then they are in the car in their car on 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.680 the freeway, driving home, just like a time leap, they 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:08.440 all lost the time in between. Yes, didn't they get 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.040 rid of the Wegi board. I don't know if the 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.760 weigi if the Weiji board was with them still interesting, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.720 it might still be there. Yeah, I'll go getting you guys. 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.560 Let's go, or let's just bring another one. That offering 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.560 was that the Wegi board? So I have another week? 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.320 Was that the one you were thinking of over youthinking? No, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:28.040 that wasn't the one I was thinking of either. Okay, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:29.720 well the other one is quick. I was at the 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:36.240 haunted coffee shop and wait, wait, the All Star Cafe 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.080 that used to be in the Knickerbocker Hotel in front 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.000 of which d W. Griffith died. Umu the Knicker. I 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:45.280 think the hotel has been bought by Scientology. Now in 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.639 the cafe doesn't just anymore? But wait, is it the 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.920 one where they used to have a lightly star trek 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.760 scemed coffee shop in that in that space called ten 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.160 forward possible? The All Star Cafe was a brief incarnation 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.840 there in the and and never quite came together. But 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:07.000 uh they claimed it was very haunted and they had 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.520 a Wigi board, and my friend and I were Uh, 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.760 we're playing with the Ouiji board and the boards we 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:18.000 start telling us things, horrible things we're gonna happen to 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.120 our friends. It's sort of it was. It was spelling 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.080 very It was the quickest of Wegi board has ever 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.199 worked for me. I was saying like one front of 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.080 hers is going to die in a car accident and 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:28.960 other it was like but it was it was kind 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.840 of like jokey horrible things. But uh. We asked him 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.160 who he was and he said he was a nine 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.399 year old boy named named Max and he spelled that. 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.199 And as we were leaving, Um, we said to the 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.040 owner and he says, so you get anything on the 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.840 Weigi boards. So yeah, someone was really great. And they're like, oh, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:52.400 was it Max the nine year old? What wait, we're 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.280 a ton of people bringing Weigi boards to the coffee shop. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.679 There was never a ton of people and that they 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.280 had a Wegi board there Swigi so it might have 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:06.760 been weird. Yeah. At around the time that that that happened, 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.720 and uh, talking about friends with their brand cemetery experience, 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.120 I was at a dinner, a group dinner, and there 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.960 was this, uh, there was this old Native American gentleman, 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.120 this is the story. I think that you was sort 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:25.720 of sort of a shaman type uh self styled shaman, 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.840 but a lot of people held him in very high regard. 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.959