1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome and move the stacks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, I'm great, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: I am great. I'm great. I'm not as tired as 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: you are, having done free agency frenzy, so I'm fresh 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: and ready to go, ready to five. By the way, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: this time change. I love in the evening, But man, 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: does it suck in the morning, brutal? Are you doing morning? 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Are you guys do still doing morning workouts with the 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: high school team? Uh? Yeah, theyre jes. We don't care 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: about that. They figured out and you are building up tough. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: What a tough group of kids you're building there. I'd 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: have been complaining about that, but that's why you guys 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: are playing in a state championship game. Man. It is 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: that guys got tough kids. We had a lot to 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: get to today. What was that. I would have taken 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: you to the zoo. I would have taken you to Zoe. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: If you're complaining, I take you to zoo. I mean, 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: he's bearcrawls and duck walk so we can go see 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the zoo. So you would have taken me to the 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Zoo one time, and that would have been it. I 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: would have been playing basketball. Let's get to some of 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: this news. We've got to really free agency frenzy. We're 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna get to a lot of these signings that have 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: taken place. As we're recording this, we're still waiting on 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I anticipate, you know, three years from now, 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: we'll still be waiting for an Rodgers to make a decision. 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious, it's taken forever. But we do 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of free agency signings that we will 30 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: get to it. But I want to start, first of 31 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: all with some trades that have gone down. The first 32 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: of which is one that just went down a few 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, and that was Darren Waller getting 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: traded from the Raiders to the New York Giants. I 35 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: had heard this morning and talking to some guys that 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the Giants were very much in on Dalton Schultz from 37 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That they were, you know, they wanted to 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: make an investment in the tight end position. They still 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: have Daniel Bellinger, but they wanted to add a playmaker 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: to that group. I did not see Darren Waller coming. 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: What was your thoughts on that for a third round 42 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: pick for the Giants, great move. Great move because as 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: they presently constructed, he'd be the number one option in 44 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the passing game. And so when you think about brand 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: day Ball and how he has been able to create 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: mismatches and do some fucking things with his creativity, this 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: gives them an anchor to the Bassim attack. I'm sure 48 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: they'll add another receiver somewhere down the line, whether that's 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: free agency, whether that's via the draft. They'll continue to 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: upgrade the weapons around Daniel Jones. But it's a great 51 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: move for the Giants because it gives Daniel Jones a 52 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: playmaker over the middle field, someone who can maybe dictate 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: coverage meaning command of double team so everyone else is free, 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: and make the game a lot easier for Daniel Jones. 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: For the Raiders, it's a little puzzling on the surface 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: because you think about Darren Waller, the way that he 57 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: was able to be so productive for a short stretch 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: where he was, i mean, one of the top three 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: tight ends in football. But stylistically, when you look at 60 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Darren Waller, and we talked about this before we win 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Live soilictically he's not necessarily what Josh McDaniels has had 62 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: in New England. Meaning he's not a traditional y tight end. 63 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: He's not the in line tight end that you put 64 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: alongside the tackle and you kind of play big boy football. 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: And so even though he was a great player, he's 66 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: had a great fit. And when you take your eye 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: towards to twenty twenty three draft class, there are a 68 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: ton of tight ends and so you get a cheaper model, 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: you get a chance to reset the thing and allocate 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: the money elsewhere that certainly has to be in play, 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: because this isn't the checkers move. This is a chess 72 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: move where you have a couple of other moves in play. 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Now that you've made this trade, and we've both got 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: buddies on the coaching staff as well as in the 75 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: personnel department there with the giants and you know, talking 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to them at the at the Senior Bowl, talking to 77 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: them at the Combine. The focus was we got to 78 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: get more explosive. We're too slow on offense when you 79 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: more dynamic players. Obviously have sa Quan in the backfield, 80 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: but they want to get some guys out in the 81 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: route that can really run and that can do things 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: not only get over the top and make plays, but 83 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: run after catch and be able to make some things happen. 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: So I was thinking wide receiver. With that they actually 85 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: go to a tight end. I think you'll see them 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: at a wide receiver along the way here get just 87 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: getting faster and more athletics. So I get it from 88 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: their standpoint than making this move, but I also understand it, 89 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: and you mentioned the two main points on stylistically, Darren 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Waller's not a fit. He's not a fit with the 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: way they want to play there with the Raiders. And 92 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: then I have eleven tight ends with top three round 93 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: grades in this draft class, meaning I think they're gonna 94 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: be eleven starting tight ends emerge from this draft, which 95 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I think last year, I believe we had three or 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: four go in the first three rounds. I think we're 97 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna see eight, nine to ten go in the first 98 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: three rounds this year. It's stacked. So they can get 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: that guy. It's a cheap starter. You use that savings 100 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: from Waller to the savings you have now with this 101 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: cheap starting tight end you can get in the third round, 102 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: and now you allocate that money to the defense, which 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: was terrible last year, and then had six free agents, 104 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: so that they need to they need to upgrade that group. 105 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: And I think this, I think they have twenty seven 106 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space as we're recording this right now. 107 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to see them use some of that money 108 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: go get some defense. Yeah, they have to, And so 109 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: you think about all those things when you're making a trade. 110 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: You certainly have the conversation with the people who are 111 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: responsible for the draft. What do we look like in 112 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the draft? How deep is that position? Oh, it's plentiful. 113 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: You talked about eleven guys King Grays and third round 114 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: or higher. That that is enough where you can make 115 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: the move in second, third round. You can get a 116 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: guy that you feel like we'll be able to replace 117 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Darren Walla. May not be able to do it right away, 118 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: but you can get that production at a cheaper price point, 119 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: and that enables you to kind of do things in 120 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: other areas to try and get this team up the stuff. 121 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Because remember when you look at the moves that the 122 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos and made in free agency, they're going to 123 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: be a factor in the mix. The Kancie the Chiefs 124 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: are certainly always a factor. And then the La Chargers. 125 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: This team has to find a way to climb over 126 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: two or three teams to get in conversation and consideration 127 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: to be a playoff contender. Moving Darren Waller maybe helps 128 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: them make a step in the right direction. A couple 129 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: other trades want to get to here, and then we'll 130 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: get into some of these signings. But let's get back 131 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: to the Ramsey trader. I don't think we've had a 132 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: chance to visit and discuss that. Your thoughts on that one? 133 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: He goes to the Miami Dolphins. Relationships matter, and I 134 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: would say the relationship that matters in this one is 135 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Stateley in Big Fangio, Brandon Stately was a dephysical 136 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: ordinated for the La Rams. Jylen Ramsey had a lot 137 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: of success that one year that they were together. He 138 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: moved Ramsey around outside inside, depending on the matchup of 139 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the week. I am certain that Vic Fangio had a 140 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: conversation or two with Brandon Salia. Hey, how do I 141 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: maximize what Jalen ram Ramsey can bring? How would he 142 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: fit in in our defense? What are the things that 143 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: he can add to our defense that will help our 144 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: defense go up a notch? Those conversations had to be had. Also, 145 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: what is he like in the locker room? What is 146 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: he like when it comes to responding to coaching and 147 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: those things. When you get those things checked off, you're 148 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. It makes you feel better about bringing 149 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: them in. And when you look at their team, there's 150 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: been some conversation about maybe they move on from Zavian 151 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Howard or whatever. I think both of these guys together 152 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to better matchup with the teams 153 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: within your division. If Aaron Rodgers is coming to New York, 154 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you have enough fireparwer 155 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: to deal with the Jets, because there'll be a different 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: team with Aaron Rodgers. Understand we think about what the 157 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills had with Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs and 158 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: those other guys on the outside, and then the New 159 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: England Pages. At some point they're going to be better 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: than challenge you in a different way. You can never 161 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: have too many dbs. Xavian Howard Jalen Ramsey gives this 162 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: team like a nice set of booking corners, with Jalen 163 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Ramsey also being able to move inside to play the 164 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: star position. Yeah, before I piggyback on that. I want 165 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: to give him a bill permission to bill. The bills 166 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 1: only about fifteen feet for me right now. If Roger, 167 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: if the Rogers things goes down, just just come on in. 168 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Are you good? Okay, he's not being recorded right now, 169 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: but he's giving me a thumbs up, so to be 170 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: bird dog in that. So let me know if anything 171 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: anything goes down there. Buck. I want to take the 172 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: other side of it and look at the rams because 173 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot has been made of Okay, they 174 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: go for it, they're all in, you know, screw them picks, 175 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then people say, oh, now they're 176 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, now they're aboarding that plan and now they're 177 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: having to pay the price for that. And I think 178 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: it's something that we set at the time. But I 179 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: don't know if we you know, if we talk about 180 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: it enough. And that is knowing where you are as 181 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: a team, and that determines your strategy. It's not an 182 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: overall organizational philosophy. If we just don't believe in draft picks, 183 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: we're only going to go out for star players, or 184 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: we only believe in draft picks and we're gonna build 185 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: from within. And we're not going to go outside. I 186 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: think it's about knowing where your window is, knowing when 187 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: it's time to be aggressive. You know. You think about baseball. 188 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: They hunt one pitch in one zone, and that's where 189 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna take your full swing. They had their shot, 190 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: they took their shot, they won a super Bowl, and 191 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: now okay, there's they've seen that super Bowl window close, 192 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and now you've got a change strategy. Now you're trading veterans, 193 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you're getting picks, you're collecting picks. You know. I don't 194 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: want to say it's a it's a race to the bottom, 195 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna you know, they're not gonna be 196 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: a great team next year. Maybe there's a lean year 197 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: or two along the way, but they'll rebuild the roster 198 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: that way. I think it's not it's not you know, 199 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: one or the other. I think you've got to know 200 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: where you are as an organization. And I give them 201 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: credit for at this point in time realizing, okay, it's 202 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: a reset time. So I saw this day, don't and 203 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: you don't quote me on it, but it made sense. 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: It seemed logical. So when you think about the RAMS 205 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: in the last five years, two Super Bowl appearances one win, yeah, 206 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: third most victories in the National Football League over that 207 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: time frame. DJ as baseball fans, you talk about windows 208 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: and opportunities. That five year run is a nice run, 209 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: but you can't sustain that kind of level of success 210 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: unless you're a doing the pages when they did for 211 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty years. But that's a nice five year run. You 212 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: reset and then you try and have another five year 213 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: run like that. But at some point the Bills were 214 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: going to become they were going to become dupe, and 215 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay the piper. And so this 216 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: is their opportunity to do it because when you look 217 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: at the team, Matthew Stafford is still a really good quarterback, 218 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: but he's near any the end of the line. You 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: look at the rest of the team, Aaron Donald has 220 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: already talked about retirement and those things. This is your 221 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: opportunity if you're Sean McVay and let's need Okay, here's 222 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 1: where we're at. We need to make sure that we reload, 223 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: rebuild the roster. Let's find some young stars that we 224 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: can build around our past to baton too. And this 225 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: would be the next generation of the guys that help 226 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: us get back to where we want to and it 227 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: maybe two three years before they're back to being relevant, 228 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: But now it was a perfect time for them to 229 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: hit reset. Yeah, I think the Philadelphia Eagles are a 230 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: great example to follow there. For the Rams, that's a 231 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: whole They changed out the majority of that roster and 232 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: used every avenue possible in terms of trades, getting extra picks, 233 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: smart free agent moves, you name it. That's how they 234 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: revamped that entire roster and went right back to a 235 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl. So I think this can turn around, you know, 236 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: rather quickly for the Rams. I think it might be 237 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years, but I think they can get 238 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: this thing right back to where they were. All Right, 239 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: the biggest trade we've seen thus far, again, who knows 240 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: when this Aaron Rodgerson is going to go down About 241 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick it went. It was something 242 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: we talked about on the podcast before. The team that 243 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: made the most sense to be the most aggressive was 244 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Thought it made the most sense for 245 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: the Bears to get the biggest return. You're going to 246 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: get that the further you go. So they go down 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: to nine and ends up bringing them a haul here. 248 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: They get a ninth pick, the sixty first pick, which 249 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: is the second rounder this year, they get a one, 250 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: twenty four, two, and twenty five and the best wide 251 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: receiver to change teams this offseason and Dj Moore, who's 252 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: a legit number one wide receiver now for Justin Fields 253 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: for the Bears is everything that we've talked about. We've 254 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: talked about moving out trying to figure out a way 255 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: to upgrade it. Also, to me, this is Ryan Poles 256 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: kind of validating some of the things that we talked 257 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: about when it came to this draft class at the 258 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: top end, very good, not necessarily great when it comes 259 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: to the personnel and the town. And so if you 260 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: feel like you don't have like a true number one 261 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: overall pick, meaning a transcendent player a Miles Garrett at 262 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: the top of the board that will come in and 263 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: completely change your defense, you drop down and you accumulate 264 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: more picks. It also gives you an opportunity to look 265 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: at your quarterback Justin Fields and say, okay, let's add 266 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: around him and see because now an insurance I have 267 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: multiple picks in the first round next year, where if 268 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is not you're a guy. You now have 269 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go back into quarterback market with guys 270 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: that we talk about, one that may play out West 271 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: and another one that plays in the South, maybe near 272 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: my hometown. And so now you have two young quarterbacks 273 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: that you keep your eye on and you can do 274 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: the compare contrasting with justin fields all year, where if 275 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: you need to go back into the draft rewards, you 276 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: can get a player that is better position because you 277 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: can reset the Ricky contract and you'll have more weapons 278 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: on your team already available. And so it gives them 279 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do similar to what the Philadelphia Eagles did, 280 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: because let's make no mistake, that was the situation that 281 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: they were going to do with Jalen Hurts. If Jalen 282 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Hurts doesn't play at a high level, they can go 283 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: right back in the draft this year and do it. 284 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: He played at a high level, they continue on, they'll 285 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: hit their wagon to Jalen Hurts in a way they go. 286 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears have an opportunity to follow that blue. Yeah. Look, 287 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: there's so many different holes in this roster, and we 288 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: talked about it again about how far do you trade down, 289 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: and there was, oh, you don't want to get out 290 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: of the range of Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, the 291 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: two premier players on defense in this draft, and maybe 292 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: even throw Tyree Wilson in the mix. This team has 293 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: so many holes, and offensively they're so bad. You've got 294 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: to be able to evaluate this next year. You've got 295 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: to be able to evaluate justin field. So I thought 296 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: it made more sense. You get down to nine, you're 297 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: probably going to get a chance to get the number one, 298 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: if not the number one, the number two offensive linemen 299 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. Who's going to be a plug and 300 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: play guy. Now you get all these extra picks, you 301 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: pick up a couple of lottery tickets in the future 302 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: here with those future picks. But to be able to 303 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: take pick nine, get let's say they get Scronsky from Northwestern, 304 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: who's plug and play whether you want to play him 305 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: at guard or tackle. And now you've got DJ Moore. 306 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Now those are two nice building blocks, new additions to 307 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: this group. And with all these extra picks you've got 308 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: at sixty one, you can get one of the best 309 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: interior guys in the draft. You get a really good 310 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman with that pick. So I think this 311 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: offseason and they've some things. Will get to these free 312 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: agent signings in a minute. On the defensive side of 313 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: the ball, lots of holes there as well. But I 314 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: think this draft it makes more sense for the Bears 315 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: young quarterback. Let's get some of these young guys in 316 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: place and let these guys grow together. Yeah. It also 317 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: players to a conversations day we've had in the past 318 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: a couple of different times about what's the best way 319 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: to make your team a playoff continued when you've been 320 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: bad for a while, get one side of the ball 321 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: up and running them where you may be dominant on 322 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: that side while the other side is coming. And so now, 323 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: if you're the Bears, even though Matt Eberflus comes from 324 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, you're saying, let's get 325 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: our offense up and go. We have a quarterback that 326 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: ran for over a thousand yards. Let's see we can 327 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: surround them with talent and playmakers where maybe we can 328 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: win eight or nine games on the strength of our 329 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: offense being able to either outscore you or control the 330 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: game because we can run it shrink the game. And 331 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: then maybe Matt Uberflus can find a way to kind 332 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: of pull a few rabbits out of the hat to 333 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: keep us in games and maybe win some of these games. 334 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: To me, it makes a lot of sen Let's see 335 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: how good we can get on offense, and then that 336 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: will determine what our next move is next year in 337 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four in the offseason, how do we approach 338 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: it to kind of get that team back up another 339 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: notch um when it comes to building the squad. Yeah, 340 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: this is the foundation that you're pouring here for the 341 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and it's going to give you a chance 342 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: to really fairly evaluate your quarterback. We are going to 343 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: take a quick break here, Buck, but before we do, 344 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: I want to tell you that I'm broadcasting today from 345 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: the Bill's closet, and we have look at this little 346 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: guy here, look at this little guy. Little we have 347 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: we oh, you know what, be careful with that because 348 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure that the Bill keeps that little Aaron Rodgers 349 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: babbo head. I am sure that babo head is right 350 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: beside his pillow every night. So when he says his night, 351 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: he goes to his nighttime routine. I'm sure he kind 352 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: of rubs the little Aaron Rodgers babbo head to make 353 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: some comfort it's almost like the Nightlight. I don't know 354 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: what number is. It's gonna have to get a new 355 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. 356 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and hit on some of these 357 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: free agents. We'll do that right after this. All right, Buck, 358 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: let's get in on some of these signings here. Let's 359 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: start first of all with the Raiders. We talked at 360 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: the top about the trade they made. Darren Waller moves on. 361 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: They trade him to the New York Giants for a 362 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: third round pick. New quarterback for the Raiders is Jimmy Garoppolo. 363 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Three years, sixty seven point five thirty four million guaranteed. 364 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of that middle tier quarterback contract that we 365 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't know if it was going to exist. We thought 366 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: there's a top shelf and then it's down at the bottom, 367 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: backup money. That's a good middle tier quarterback contract. Good 368 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: middle tier contract, good contract for the Raiders. It's als 369 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: a couple of things. It gives you the bridge quarterback, 370 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: so it doesn't prevent you from being able to take 371 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the draft. You have someone who's very 372 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: familiar with Josh McDaniel system, so you should be able 373 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: to get up and running and win games while you're 374 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: breaking in a young quarterbacker. He's working there. Jimmy Garoppolo 375 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: has proven already that he is a good teammate when 376 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: it comes to being in the quarterback room with a 377 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: young guy that is maybe gunning for his job down 378 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: the line. So this works for the Raiders and where 379 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: the Raiders are. Also, because of the entring knowledge that 380 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels has with Jimmy Garoppolo, he can build an 381 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: offense that should allow him to play through his strengths. 382 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: This team should win games, and so I would expect 383 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: to see this offense play at a high level regardless 384 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: of the subtraction of Darren Waller and what may happen 385 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: down the line. This team still has enough weapons. They 386 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: have enough firepower to be able to get it done. Yeah, 387 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: they still have some work to do on the offensive 388 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: line and definitely on that defense, but there's still guys 389 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: to throw the ball to there for Jimmy Garppolo. My 390 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: point on this one, you can say Derek Carr is 391 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: a better player and Jimmy Garoppolo is a better fit. 392 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a way to kind of summarize that 393 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons is it was such a 394 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: weird year the year before, you know, the whole thing 395 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: happens with Gruden, then Besaccia takes over, they make the postseason, 396 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: and then all those guys are gone and here comes 397 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: Daniels and it's you know, the Patriot way and the 398 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: way they do things is a little bit unique, and 399 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: you just know, and I'm reading into this, but you've 400 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: got to believe when you're not having immediate success, how 401 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: could there not be chattering the locker room. You know, 402 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: we did it the other way last year and we 403 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: were winning games, Like, why are we doing it this way? 404 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: I think now you bring in Jimmy Garoppolo, He's going 405 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: to be able to take the upstairs message downstairs and say, hey, no, guys, 406 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: this I've seen this work. I know this. Maybe you 407 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: don't like this out of the other but this is 408 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: how it works. This is what they're trying to do. 409 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I've seen this result in championships. I think there's more 410 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: buy in there, and I think there's more of a 411 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: connect between your head coach and your quarterback. Absolutely, when 412 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback and delivered the message, that's when you have 413 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to have success because Jimmy Garoppolo has seen 414 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: this way, the Raiders new way of doing things that 415 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: comes directly from New England. He's seen a result in 416 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: a couple of championships. You're right, he can become the 417 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: messenger when it comes to the locker room and making 418 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: sure everyone understands, Hey, the extra time to time that 419 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: we're devoting, why we do this, here's the why behind it, 420 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and eventually it will lead to the success. Yes, that 421 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. And let's be honest. 422 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Whenever you take over a situation, we always talk about 423 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: winter newt regime comes in, they typically find a way 424 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: to get their quarterback, their guy, and so Jimmy Garoppolo 425 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: in the short term will be Josh Medianews guy. Yeah. 426 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: They also bring back another familiar face and Jacobe Myers. 427 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: He moves from the Patriots signs with the Raiders in 428 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: free agency. He gets three years, thirty three million. You 429 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: look at some of these other deals, Buck, tell me 430 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: what stands out to you. Not a surprise, Kelsey he 431 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: resigns with the Eagles. Think we all anticipated that was 432 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: going to happen. Just a one year deal makes him 433 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: still the highest paid center in the league at fourteen 434 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: point two five million. Jesse Bates was a big contract, 435 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: four years sixty four million. He goes to the Atlanta 436 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: Falcons where they had a desperate need, and going back 437 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: to the Bears, Tremaine Edmonds. Maybe let's start there, Tremaine 438 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Edmonds four years seventy two million, fifty million guaranteed. I 439 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: think Brett Coleman had posted this on social media, does 440 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: a nice job and talked about Tremaine Edmund. Maybe you 441 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: want to go back to a little bit of that 442 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: cover two run that a little bit more there in 443 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Chicago Eberflus. Now you've got kind of that seam runner 444 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: and cover two that they had with Urlacher with all 445 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: that size and length, which is a little bit more 446 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: difficult to navigate around. I thought that made sense because 447 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: they remember they trade Roquan to the Ravens, so that 448 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: was to swap out. Yeah, to move all the ways 449 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: go it also a companies. The move that they made 450 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: was the TJ. Edwards coming over from the Philadelphi EGA. 451 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: So now you have two guys and linebacker, and there's 452 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation of why would they invest so 453 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: much money in off the ball linebackers. It's because of 454 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: what you just pointed out. This is a team Mett Eberflus, 455 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: who is Rod Mary Nelly's disciple. He believes in that, 456 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: he loves that, he loves the Tony Dungee stuff. They're 457 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna play hard. This can be simplistic by design, but man, 458 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: this canna be very effective because the execution should be 459 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: at a high level. You now have a linebacker and 460 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Edwards who gives you ability to run down the field. TJ. 461 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: Edwards can jump into that wheel position, you can feel 462 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: the gaps and can play the style of defense that 463 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: they want to play. The next steps from a defensive standpoint, 464 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: who's the edge rusher, who's the inside player? Because to 465 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: play that Tampa two system, you need someone that can 466 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: impact the middle of the defense and give you that 467 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: pass rushability, and you need somebody on the edges. That 468 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: would be the next part of it. Because the money 469 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: or the resources are poured into the front seven, not 470 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: necessarily the back end when it comes to playing desktyle 471 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: of defense. Before we get to some of these other signings, 472 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: I actually was talking to a coach the other day 473 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: and he was telling me about a player that they 474 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: had that it signed elsewhere and said the decision came 475 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: down to two places, and a lot of times we 476 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: think of, Okay, you know, is it close to where 477 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: I grew up, is it a coach that I'm familiar with, 478 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: is it the weather? You know, what is it? And 479 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: this coach said it was a fascinating conversation with the player, 480 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: and he said it came down to while there was 481 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things in favor of one place in 482 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: terms of proximity to home, familiarity with coaching staff, all 483 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, he said, well, I've I've got 484 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: a chance to play on a Sunday night team, and 485 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to go play for a Sunday afternoon team. 486 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: In other words, he's like, this team is a primetime team. 487 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Everything you do matters there. You're gonna be playing meaningful games. 488 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: It's a team that's a winning it's a winning team, 489 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: versus going to a place where we're going to play it, 490 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, one Eastern every week on Sunday afternoon and 491 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: just kind of disappear into the abyss. And he's like, 492 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: I he had he had been on a really good 493 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: team and had a taste of that, and that was 494 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the deciding factor between the two. I thought that was 495 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: an interesting way of looking at it. It is an 496 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: interesting way of looking at it because so much of 497 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: what we think players want is the money, and the 498 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: money certainly has to be within reason, but everyone wants 499 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: to win. DJ, you and I both worked in front offices. 500 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: It's a grin when your team isn't winning, when you're 501 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: on the road and your team is terrible, it's not 502 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And that you can look at 503 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: your aging dog years it seems like when you're losing. 504 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: And so players also says that the work is too 505 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: hard to do if you're not winning. And everyone, no 506 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: matter what, everyone is still that seven year old kid 507 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: who dreams a playing go to big stage here and 508 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: their name called out and playing for Super Bowls. And 509 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: so to me, that statement kind of lets us know 510 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: players still they still want that man. Winners want to win. 511 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: You want to be in a winning environment because the 512 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: fund is into winning. That's what it appears that that's 513 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: what the coach was kind of sharing. Yeah, no doubt 514 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Washington they franchised dren Payne. They get a deal done 515 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: with him, four years, ninety million bucks. Jamal Dean corner. 516 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: He resigns with the Bucks fifty two million. That's over 517 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: four years. Marcus Davenport only had half a sack last year. Buck, 518 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: But the ability is there, the tools are in there, 519 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: and you're always going to see teams believing in buying 520 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: into tools with pass rushers, even though it hasn't. I mean, 521 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I had a good year two years ago. But man, 522 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: that shows you how much people care about, you know, 523 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. He got a one year deal, what was it, 524 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: thirteen million bucks one year, thirteen million bucks with the Vikings, 525 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: and I know he had other offers. There were multiple 526 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: teams in on him. Half a sack last year just 527 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: tells you. Yet you're you're betting on athletes and disruptors 528 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: there even when the production isn't there. First round picks, 529 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, first round picks typically get 530 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: two or three bytes at the Apple. It's no different 531 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: than the interest that has been reported in Baker Mayfield 532 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's bounced around, he's done 533 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: those things. But when you are graded as a first 534 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: round talent, because you have to remember, everyone still has 535 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: their college grades on those players. And the first thing 536 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: that you do is before you throw away the player, 537 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: is you look at the system. Well, maybe he wasn't 538 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: in the right environment. Maybe our scheme will enable him 539 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: to do the things that we thought that he would 540 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: be able to do when we wrote these reports. So 541 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: we're going to take a flyer on him and say 542 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: that we have a better environment that will allow him 543 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: to succeeds common So Davenport benefits from that part of it. 544 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: First round pick, first round talent. Let's give him a 545 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: shot to play in a different defense, maybe one that 546 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: fits his skill sets better, and maybe he'll be that 547 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: player that we thought. Yeah, no, again, you're placing a 548 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: bet there. At least it's it's a one year bet 549 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: that they're placing. Juan Taylor, the tackle you know well, 550 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: from the Jags, he goes to the Chiefs. The Chiefs 551 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: have not been afraid to shuffle through tackles over the 552 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: last four or five years, and I do think it 553 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: helps when you have Mahomes. I think it makes that 554 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: a desirable location and that's a that's a good move 555 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: for Juwan Taylor there. Javon Hargrave, a very talented defensive tackle. 556 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: He goes from the Eagles to the forty nine Ers, 557 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: which I think, by the way, it might be that 558 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: might be one of the best rivalries in the NFL 559 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: right now, is going to be in the NFC because 560 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: it feels like it is the Eagles and it is 561 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, and then as everybody else in 562 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: the NFC, and that is going to be a collision course. 563 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they like each other. You can see 564 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: it in all the comments. Remember in the Super Bowl, 565 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: all the Niners coming out and saying, oh, they're going 566 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: to get exposed, that the Chiefs will expose these guys. 567 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Not a lot of love lost between those two. None 568 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: love lost. And it's a win win for the nine 569 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: is you take a player from the team that you know, 570 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: if everything goes according to plan, this is a team 571 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: that we know we're going to face again on the 572 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl. So let's weaken them upgrade 573 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: what we had. I saw the number that this contract 574 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: they gave Javon Hargrave isn't the contract that they could 575 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: have given the Forrest Bucker a couple of years ago 576 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: when they ended up taking javine Ken law. So maybe 577 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: they figured it out. Labyer's remorse, We'll go back and 578 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: we'll make it right this time. And so this is 579 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: a really good player at Hardgrave was a great player 580 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: on the inside. Agency man, just the defensive line, the 581 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: front line. We talked about the marquee positions in the 582 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: National Football League. Man, it still comes down to pass rushers, 583 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: disruptive players at the point of attack, those quarterbacks, and 584 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: those playmakers on the offense and defense, those ones that 585 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: get paid, no doubt. Zach Allen, defensive tackle. He goes 586 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos, who were very busy in what 587 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: they did in free agency. They also brought over Mike 588 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: McGlinchey from the forty nine ers and aggressive free agency period. 589 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Here for the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton, I have 590 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: one for you, right Gione, Sean Payton, give me one. 591 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: Please explain to me or let's have the discussion. Jared's Stidham. Yes, 592 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: that is just the Denver Broncos from the Vegas Raiders. 593 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham started a couple of games at the end 594 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: of the year for the Vegas Raiders. Yeah, they're bringing 595 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo over, but for him going to the Broncos, Like, 596 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: what do you think at first sight, first glance, what 597 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: are your thoughts when you saw him go, oh, he 598 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: went to Denver. My first thought was, Russ better play 599 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: a little bit better, even as much, even as much 600 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: money as he's making. They have an alternative there. And 601 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: again you kind of look at that and say, there's 602 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: no way you could bench him with the amount of 603 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: money he's making. I'm like, I don't think Sean Payton 604 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: thinks like that. Sean Payton didn't like to lose. And 605 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: if this offense, you know, with a new coaching staff 606 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: and some of these new pieces and getting Garrett Bowls 607 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: back healthy, getting Javonte Williams back healthy, if they're struggling 608 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: like they struggled last year, He's not going to sit 609 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: through a whole year that Sean Payton's not that he's 610 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: not capable of doing that. So it's just a little insurance. 611 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: And you look at the quarterback room as a whole 612 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: in terms of this is the amount of money we 613 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: have budgeted in this room, and you know, I think 614 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: that's a that's a little bit of a it's a 615 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: little bit of nudge to Russell. Hey, we're giving you pieces, 616 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: We're trying to fill this roster in around you. But hey, dude, 617 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: you got to do your part now too, because we 618 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: got another guy over here that we like. We're paying 619 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of money and he started games in 620 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. Love the move. I love the move just 621 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: from dad standpoint, just in terms of Sean Payton being 622 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: an old school coach. Yeah, Russ, you're you're a starter, 623 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: but we're gonna make sure that we have someone here 624 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: that can maybe push you just a little bit, just 625 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: so you can't become comfortable. And so Sean Payton, he 626 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't say this, but you could tell them that original 627 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: press about seizing control of the locker room, reclaiming control 628 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: of the organization. Sean Payton is letting everyone no, no, no, no, no. 629 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: My show, my show. And I'm gonna make sure that 630 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: he understands that this is my show and I'm not 631 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: going to let you whatever happened before me. Yeah, we're 632 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: not gonna deal with that kind of stuff again. And 633 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: so having a capable player at quarterback makes a difference 634 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: because Russell knows that he needs to play well. If 635 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: not Jars didn't be over, they're ready to rolling, no doubt. 636 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: A couple more things that will wrap it up here, 637 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: Draymont Jones was a big one. He played great for 638 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos last year. He goes to the Seahawks, a 639 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: big addition to their defensive line. And again they've got 640 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: those two picks in the first round. I think you 641 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: see them address another defensive lineman with one of those 642 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: picks as well. This is the one I want to 643 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: hit young because this is a good scouting conversation. Remember 644 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: when we used to talk about Belichick and what he 645 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: looked for in offense and defensive players. And I went 646 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: back to that seminar from the early nineties that I 647 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: had been with a scout who had been with him 648 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and h and gave us his presentation when 649 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: I was with the Ravens and goes position position, what 650 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: he's looking for. I found it interesting. Once they resigned 651 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, Jonathan Jones the corner. They gave him twenty million, 652 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: thirteen million guaranteed he's a good player. He's five foot 653 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: nine buck. And then I looked at Jack Jones, who 654 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: they drafted, who's played well for them, who's undersized. There's 655 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: another couple other undersized corners. I think Bill Belichick and 656 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: one of the reasons and I was actually talking to 657 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: our good buddy Mike Mack on the drive into work 658 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: this morning. We were kicking this round. It was a 659 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: fun chat because you know, Bill Belichick has been succes 660 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: askful because people think maybe he's curmudginey and he doesn't. 661 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: You know, he's old school. He doesn't adapt. No, he has. 662 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: He has done such a good job of finding out, Okay, 663 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna zig, I'm gonna zag. And with the when 664 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll came into the league and you saw that 665 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: defense take off, and it was we are going to 666 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: get all big, rangy, athletic corners and that's what everybody 667 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: was finding. And you know who wasn't appreciated those undersized 668 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: corners who were really good players. And Belichick's like, I 669 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: can scoop up all these good undersized corners in the 670 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: late rounds and some of them is undrafted free agents. 671 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: It's like an inefficiency in the market. Yes, he does, 672 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: he understands that. He also understands exactly what he wants 673 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: from those players. The New England pages are very It's 674 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: funny because we always talk about them. To Evil Empire. 675 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: We talk about like on the service, it appears that 676 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: they're very complex, but they're very simplistic in terms of 677 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: how they play. They don't do a lot in terms 678 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: of what they play. They're very fundamental and how, and 679 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: then they really focus on the execution. When I think 680 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: about how they play in the back end, they won't 681 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: corn that have complete toolboxes. A lot of times, dj 682 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: when we're sitting there and the stands, watching the combine 683 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: and watching the workouts, it's always the smaller guys who 684 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: would dowsing you the most because of their footwork and 685 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: their ability to do a bunch of different things. So 686 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: we think about the pages and being able to play off, 687 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: being able to press, being able to play man zone 688 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: those things. In reality, the little guys probably give you 689 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: a better chance to be able to be a little 690 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: more versatile because they have the toolbox to be able 691 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: to do those things. The one thing that you have 692 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: to ask whenever you have a smaller corner, will they tackle? 693 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: Will their physical dimensions become a problem because they can't 694 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: tackle and hold their own on the perimeter. But if 695 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: you get a smaller guy, maybe an undersized guy that 696 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: is willing to throw his body in there and is 697 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: a solid tackler, well, then you get the benefits of 698 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: more than likely a better movement athlete that allows you 699 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: to do more things in coverage. Yeah. No, it's like 700 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: going to Disneyland and getting on the fast pass. You 701 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: don't don't wait in that long line. Don't wait in 702 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: that long life. I think you're not gonna get the 703 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: one you like. Man, You go to the front, You 704 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: go right to the front of the line with those 705 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: other size corners. You go get there, get pick your 706 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: choice piece of cake. You block anything else you want 707 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: to jump into before we get out of here. Oh no, 708 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: A free agency is interesting. I think the conversation that 709 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: we'll have over the next couple of weeks is now 710 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: that we go through free agency and you've been able 711 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: to kind of go through your grocery lists and check 712 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: off some of the things. Now we'll do a reset 713 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: and we'll be able to hone in a little more 714 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: on what teams are going to look for in the draft, 715 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: because pro department in college department, they kind of work independently, 716 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: but then they work together. What is the strength of 717 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: the off season market? Is it free agency a certain position, 718 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: is it the draft? In other positions? You take all 719 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: of that, you balance it out, and then it changes 720 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: your strategy for how you want to proceed and build 721 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: the team. We now have a better feel for how 722 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: some of these teams are looking to draft because they've 723 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: checked off some boxes on their free season down their 724 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: off season checklist, no doubt, and we'll continue to dive 725 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: into that here on the MTS Pod as we go forward, 726 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: as we marched towards the draft. How does free agency 727 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: impact the draft? We've already seen how the draft impacts 728 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: free agency. Look at how these tight ends I've had 729 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: to sit out here and wait to get deals done 730 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: because of the depth. Look at the running back market 731 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: and where that is. Um, he saw the off the 732 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: ball linebackers go flying off the board and free and 733 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: because it's not a great off the ball linebacker draft. So, uh, 734 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: they're definitely related. And that's something we're gonna get into. Buck, 735 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: I got one more thing, one more thing. Um Uh, 736 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: So you and I go way back in. I know 737 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: you have some inside information and our produce is really upset. 738 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: I know right now he's really worried about Aaron Rodgers 739 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: and what's going to happen and is he's going to 740 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: see him. It's dark in here. But I can see him. 741 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: He's sweating, you know, if if he's if he's going, 742 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: he's sweating. He's upset because look, that's that's been his 743 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: guy for so long, he grew up with him, like 744 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers basically race that's only knows and so and so. 745 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: I just wonder you think we can be able to 746 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: get him a Jets jersey and Aaron Rodgers Jets jersey? 747 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: Do you think Aaron Rodgers, where do you think? Like 748 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the twelve tattoo that Nebill has on his shoulder, you 749 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: think we'll be to carry that over and maybe allow 750 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: it to work or we have to do something up. 751 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at like is there a way to make 752 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: a twelve a heart? And then you can just put 753 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: Jordan above it? And then Jordan loved It's kind of 754 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: like that's how he can kick save this whole situation. Yeah, 755 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just warning because like fandom, when you 756 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: when you have like your favorite player, like do you 757 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: stay with the team do you go to the player? 758 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Like it's so hard. I've never really had an affinity 759 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: for a player like that, but like this has to 760 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: be it's almost if sure, like a breakup, like Yeah, 761 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: it's tough to eat. You can't eat, Yeah, toss an turn. 762 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: I just want to worry about the bill. I feel 763 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: like though, I feel like that's a negative way to 764 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: end the show, so I want to end it on 765 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: an upbeat note. So all in all seriousness, how do 766 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: you feel about the tar Hills in the tournament? Man? 767 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: You think you guys are gonna win this thing? Or 768 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: what baseball? How do you feel about what cops? The 769 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: World Series? No? No Basketball? The Bucky. I think there's 770 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty teams again into the tournament. You guys, 771 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: are you guys are in right? No, it's baseball season. 772 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: It's baseball seas the Diamond Hills. I'm worried about the 773 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Diamond Hills. I'm okay going through trying to figure out 774 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: are we wearing all blue and Boshton like, yeah, his 775 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: baseball season? So wait, did you guys not make no tournament? 776 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: No NCAA tournament. It's baseball. It's baseball season, like okay, 777 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: talking about Spring fount, Well, I'm excited because when I 778 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: think of Carolina, I think of baseball. That's what I 779 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: think of as a baseball, That's what I think about 780 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: the Diamond Hills, the Diamond Hills. That's what I'm that's 781 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. I'm all based the tournament, Carolina. 782 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: Come on, man, are you talking about? How does that happen? Reset? 783 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: The ac is not even any good? How do you 784 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: not make the tournament? Oh my gosh, Like we didn't 785 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: make the tournament because we weren't even good. Weren't good. 786 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have a bad year onto the next. Oh well, 787 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here because he's now I've 788 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: got im getting the bills giving me as Marquette takes. 789 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: Mark was at fifteen schools, Marquette in Miami, Wisconsin, Chicago, 790 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: like like fifteen, all of them schools on his resume, 791 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: he claims all of them. He claims all of them. Um, 792 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: all right, well you can watch my Hoosiers compete in 793 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the tournament. Buck, you're you're more than one to root 794 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: for him. You can join me in red on that. Uh, 795 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: it'd be a quick weekend, quick weekend. Oh yeah, I'm 796 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: a little nervous about can't stay. I'm not gonna lie. 797 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do for us. I appreciate you 798 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: guys hanging. We'll catch you next time, right, Here I'll 799 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: go to six.