Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It Crue, and welcome to
Speaker 2: another episode of Call It What It Is. I just
Speaker 2: want to jump in because.
Speaker 1: Our guest is definitely gonna call it what it is
Speaker 1: from all the realms, all the dimensions.
Speaker 3: Listen it is.
Speaker 2: It's spooky season, and it felt very appropriate to have
Speaker 2: someone on that can talk to the spirit world who
Speaker 2: I am a huge, gigantic fan of, and I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the Long Island medium, Teresa Computa. It's funny just
Speaker 2: because I when I went to set after we knew
Speaker 2: she was coming on, I went to set and I
Speaker 2: asked the cast and crew and I said, do you
Speaker 2: guys we have Teresa computoing on.
Speaker 3: Everyone was very excited.
Speaker 2: I said, do you guys have any questions for, you know,
Speaker 2: the spirit side of stuff. Everyone had like forty questions,
Speaker 2: So I literally had to go on my phone and
Speaker 2: like make get the notes up on like startu writing
Speaker 2: everything down. Yes, And I I'm so excited because I
Speaker 2: feel like so many of these questions are just fascinating
Speaker 2: to me and I can't wait to hear what she says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think that.
Speaker 4: It's what's what's what's super.
Speaker 1: Cool about it is that you can believe, not believe,
Speaker 1: be on the fence about believing, and still be kind
Speaker 1: of wowed, right, and yet you like and you and
Speaker 1: you when you're in it. Like the times I've been
Speaker 1: around mediums, I think I always going with a little
Speaker 1: bit of skepticism, and I've never left, Yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: left having the same skepticism. I am a full just
Speaker 1: so for the record, I'm a full, all in, whole
Speaker 1: body in uh to believing that there absolutely is a
Speaker 1: whole nother realm that some people have access to, and
Speaker 1: I think that our I think intuition is an extension
Speaker 1: of that, and I think people who have really good
Speaker 1: intuition really are just more in touch with the other side.
Speaker 1: That's what I think, Camerila.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of that. This is going
Speaker 2: to be my first time ever talking to a medium
Speaker 2: or being yeah, in the presence of someone with this gift,
Speaker 2: so I'm like kind of nervous, I'm excited. I have
Speaker 2: so many questions, Like I just have a wild question like,
Speaker 2: for example, I want to know and people bought this
Speaker 2: up a Wigi board. Did you ever play with ouiji
Speaker 2: board when you were younger? That was a big no
Speaker 2: no in my family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you've talked about this. Yeah, no, we
Speaker 1: definitely did. We did it as sleepovers. And you remember
Speaker 1: how it had to be balanced on your knees.
Speaker 3: No, because I didn't never played?
Speaker 4: Oh you never?
Speaker 2: You never? Wait why did it have to be on
Speaker 2: your knees?
Speaker 3: I thought it could be on a table.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I remembering it being on your
Speaker 1: knees and then your hands sort of lightly touched the
Speaker 1: I want to call it a cursor, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: a curse or it was like a plastic thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pointed to the letters, right, Yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's my intuition speaking.
Speaker 3: All right, I think we just got to bring her in. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's do it.
Speaker 4: I think I'm on.
Speaker 2: Teresa on.
Speaker 4: What do you say to my god for your gorgeous
Speaker 4: You're gorgeous.
Speaker 2: My god, I'm so Teresa. You have no idea. I
Speaker 2: have no idea the fan that I am of you?
Speaker 2: Really we I mean, Jessica and I have been talking
Speaker 2: about you coming on the pod for since since day one.
Speaker 4: Yeap, oh my god, original wish list, you were on
Speaker 4: our Yes, that's still other people, No, because that literally
Speaker 4: it always still blows my mind that people know who
Speaker 4: I am because I like to continue to live my
Speaker 4: life like I'm just Teresa Capudo that lives in Hicksville.
Speaker 4: I still of my parents you know where he cam? Yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 2: So Teresa. I I went to set. I went to set,
Speaker 2: took a raise anatomy, and I told them that you
Speaker 2: were coming on the show. And I've told the other
Speaker 2: guests you know, on the show, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so fun. So they bombarded me with questions.
Speaker 3: It was literally like a.
Speaker 2: Line like cast and crew, we just have so many
Speaker 2: questions for you.
Speaker 4: Oh so why don't you just have me? Do they
Speaker 4: have like bring your favorite person to work day?
Speaker 3: You should yes, yeah, yea, yeah, you should get her
Speaker 3: a cast here. You need a cast here, you need
Speaker 3: to come on.
Speaker 2: You need to be a patient on the show.
Speaker 4: No. We that would be very interesting. I'd love to
Speaker 4: see that.
Speaker 3: Have you ever done any acting on the on any show?
Speaker 4: No? No, okay, the a is that you can't act this.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe you can maybe Jennifer Coolidge could
Speaker 4: maybe I know, but Kelly Ripped it does do a
Speaker 4: good me I will say that, and Kate McKinnon, but no,
Speaker 4: I haven't. But I did have my brain tested.
Speaker 3: You did, Okay, tell us about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so do you know doctor Amen, Yes, oh, Jessica,
Speaker 4: you know I do. Yeah. Years ago, I was on
Speaker 4: Doctor Oz and he actually read my brain as I
Speaker 4: was reading someone. And because I always said, I don't
Speaker 4: know what happens, it's almost like spirit clears out my
Speaker 4: own personal thoughts, feelings and emotions. I have no personal thoughts,
Speaker 4: it's just what spirit makes me feel, and it's almost
Speaker 4: like my mind goes blank. And he actually said that
Speaker 4: I'm able to access a part of my brain that
Speaker 4: we typically don't and that my brain shows no activity
Speaker 4: as I'm channeling. So I don't understand.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Okay, So Jessica, Jessica.
Speaker 2: Before before you came out on, Jessica was talking about
Speaker 2: how she feels like she has a little bit of
Speaker 2: a gift herself. Well why don't you, why don't you
Speaker 2: talk about it? Because we're wondering if it's something that
Speaker 2: you're born with, can you develop it, can you grow it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: First of all, I always say we all have the
Speaker 4: ability to connect with our own departed loved ones. I
Speaker 4: know that I feel that, and know and believe that
Speaker 4: this is a soul bond that can never be broken.
Speaker 4: So things that you sense and feel that remind you
Speaker 4: of your loved one that has died, know that that
Speaker 4: is them. Know that that is the soul reminding you
Speaker 4: that they're living life through your eyes. I believe we
Speaker 4: in life in general, that we can grow anything or
Speaker 4: nurture anything. Do I think more some people are more connected, Yes,
Speaker 4: some people are more empathic where they're more sensitive to
Speaker 4: you know, people's energy emotions. I always say I was
Speaker 4: born this way. I mean, I've been seeing spirits and
Speaker 4: some four and I always used to stay to my mom,
Speaker 4: I don't feel right. I feel different than everyone else.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I belong here. And my mom
Speaker 4: finally said to me one day, She's like, listen, she goes,
Speaker 4: I don't know why you feel this way. You're not adopted.
Speaker 4: You belong to this family, So stop feeling this way,
Speaker 4: you know, but snap out of it. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And I come from a very spiritual family, so they
Speaker 4: believe in an afterlife. They believe in that connection. And
Speaker 4: I also come from a very strong faith family. So
Speaker 4: I struggled with my gift for so many years because
Speaker 4: of my faith, and you know, because as it started
Speaker 4: to develop to develop, you know, I used to say,
Speaker 4: my mom, I'm getting this. I'm feeling this. My mom like,
Speaker 4: oh that's great, Oh okay, you know, like no one
Speaker 4: ever really made a big deal about the things. And
Speaker 4: then it wasn't until nine to eleven is when I
Speaker 4: had this ex spiritual I had this spiritual experience where
Speaker 4: I was shown that many people perish that day and
Speaker 4: their loved ones were left with these negative emotions, burdens, guilts,
Speaker 4: should have, could have, would have, and they were left
Speaker 4: with all these things that they were afraid that their
Speaker 4: loved one wasn't okay or what even happened. So I
Speaker 4: kind of put my gift in God's hands and I said, look,
Speaker 4: if this is my soul's journey, then open the doors
Speaker 4: for me and I will gladly walk through these doors
Speaker 4: with my gift. But I only want to be able
Speaker 4: to help people. I want to be able to help
Speaker 4: people to heal, to move on with their life, and
Speaker 4: to find some happiness and here I am.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I come from the women in
Speaker 1: my family are very intuitive and that can come in
Speaker 1: lots of different ways. I mean, the ones that always
Speaker 1: make all of us go, oh my gosh, I can't
Speaker 1: believe this is you know, one of us will be
Speaker 1: thinking about the other one.
Speaker 4: In the phone ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is pretty like you know, cliche one. But
Speaker 1: it happens a lot, like a lot, a lot or
Speaker 1: just coincidences that you know, could be lots of things.
Speaker 1: But I think that we all believe.
Speaker 4: Are that that tethering, that connection, that that.
Speaker 2: Soul bond that you were just talking about.
Speaker 1: I also feel like I definitely feel other people's energy
Speaker 1: in a different way than others like that, and sometimes
Speaker 1: by the way, it's too much. Do you feel overwhelmed
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 4: I feel overwhelmed in a lot of different ways, but
Speaker 4: especially with my friends and family and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It's it's almost like I have that I can't tell
Speaker 4: you how I do this, but I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: able to separate myself from certain things, from you know,
Speaker 4: just being able to hang out with my girlfriends and
Speaker 4: not feel anything, especially when they're going through something you know.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like a natural instinct that I'm able
Speaker 4: to do without even realizing it, to kind of remove
Speaker 4: myself from certain things or not feel certain things.
Speaker 2: I so when I watch you when you're doing readings,
Speaker 2: I've seen you do a prayer beforehand and sort of
Speaker 2: like there's a protection process that happens before you read.
Speaker 2: If you didn't do that, what would you feel?
Speaker 4: Oh that I don't. I do it before anything I do.
Speaker 4: I always protect I. Oh, I did it right before
Speaker 4: I came on. I clicked into the link and I
Speaker 4: sat here and I did my little meditation because I
Speaker 4: never know what's going to happen. I know spirit always
Speaker 4: has me say things for a reason, and I think
Speaker 4: this is also something that I don't know if a
Speaker 4: lot of people know about me. I do what I
Speaker 4: do truly to validate an afterlife for people. It's never
Speaker 4: about believing in what I do or even in mediums.
Speaker 4: I really don't care if people believe in what I do.
Speaker 4: I want them to believe in themselves because what I've
Speaker 4: also learned over these decades of doing what I do,
Speaker 4: some people they could be the most spiritual person, the
Speaker 4: most faithful person, and they have a tragedy in their family,
Speaker 4: they lose a loved one, and all of that goes
Speaker 4: out the window. They don't know how to live, they
Speaker 4: don't want to live, they don't want to have a faith,
Speaker 4: and they don't know what to believe in anymore. And
Speaker 4: I feel that the work that I do gives people
Speaker 4: that gift back, It gives them their faith back in
Speaker 4: a sense.
Speaker 2: That's it. I know I've seen this on your shows.
Speaker 2: I've seen these moments where it's like people seem completely
Speaker 2: lost and they have this it's such a healing moment
Speaker 2: with you. I guess my question is is I'm so curious.
Speaker 2: And this question came up a lot when you're in
Speaker 2: a situation where you have thousands of people in a
Speaker 2: massive convention center and you're going into reading. Are you
Speaker 2: hearing thousands of spirit voices? No?
Speaker 4: I don't hear thousands of like that, Like like I don't,
Speaker 4: It's not like that for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how does it? How does it happen?
Speaker 4: So I don't know, it just happened. So I'll tell
Speaker 4: you my process. Yes, Like before I come out on stage,
Speaker 4: So before I come out on stage, there's a sizzle
Speaker 4: reel that we play before I actually come out on
Speaker 4: the stage. It's to kind of get people because some
Speaker 4: people aren't familiar with what I do. So I'm actually
Speaker 4: I'm doing my meditation. Sometimes I start to sense and
Speaker 4: feel things, but it's not usually until I finish my speech.
Speaker 4: After I hit the stage, I will just start sensing
Speaker 4: and feeling things I am. Like, for instance, I came
Speaker 4: into this zoom and right before I came in, I
Speaker 4: felt extremely nervous and I felt I don't mean this
Speaker 4: in a negative way, like apprehensive. So sometimes that might
Speaker 4: be if someone might be they might believe in what
Speaker 4: I do be very spiritual, but they might not want
Speaker 4: to hear from their loved ones, or they might don't
Speaker 4: feel that they're ready, or they're afraid of what they
Speaker 4: might hear or might not hear. And I always tell
Speaker 4: people the work that I do when spirit comes through,
Speaker 4: it's to help us, and it's never anything that is
Speaker 4: going to make us feel bad or said. It's always
Speaker 4: just going to be little things that I say. Sometimes
Speaker 4: I don't even realize I say things to people and
Speaker 4: they'll be like, oh my god. I had the conversation
Speaker 4: that we had the other day on the phone I
Speaker 4: know my dad was channeling through you, Like my girlfriends
Speaker 4: will say that to me, be like, I felt presence
Speaker 4: and the things that you were saying were just things
Speaker 4: that I was thinking and that I was talking to
Speaker 4: him about the night before. So I just do things
Speaker 4: that I'm not even aware of.
Speaker 2: Interesting. It's and the energy you're talking about is interesting
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 4: It is. And to say this about my live shows,
Speaker 4: it's to be in a space of thousands of people
Speaker 4: to watch someone heal right in front of you and
Speaker 4: to feel that energy you can't you can't even describe it.
Speaker 4: And I'm doing this like fifteen years now, almost fifteen years,
Speaker 4: doing live shows all over the country, and every time
Speaker 4: I hit that stage, something amazing happens and I walk
Speaker 4: off of that stage feeling like, oh my god, spirit
Speaker 4: exceeded once again any expectation I ever would have had
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a reading, because you're talking about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, being worried about people when not coming through
Speaker 2: or coming through, or have you ever had a reading
Speaker 2: where nobody has come through that.
Speaker 4: Has not happened. Wow, that has not happened.
Speaker 3: That's amazing to me. Have you ever had a reading where.
Speaker 2: You feel sort of well, do you believe that there's
Speaker 2: also like a dark energy spirit? Does that exist out there?
Speaker 4: I'm sure there is. I don't encounter those. So this
Speaker 4: is how I explain it to people, and I use
Speaker 4: this reading that happened many years ago at a live
Speaker 4: show as the example. I always say I only channel
Speaker 4: souls that walk in God's white light. So from what
Speaker 4: spirit is explained to me, there's different levels on the
Speaker 4: other side. So if a soul enters at this level,
Speaker 4: a soul up here can lower the vibration to be
Speaker 4: with that soul to help them learn lessons, channel whatever
Speaker 4: it is, but the soul down here can't move up
Speaker 4: until they learned that lesson.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it.
Speaker 4: I was doing a reading for this woman and unfortunately,
Speaker 4: her daughter was murdered by her boyfriend. And I could
Speaker 4: see below the daughter and energy, I could see a soul,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't feel anything from him, couldn't hear anything
Speaker 4: from him. And she said, please tell my mom that
Speaker 4: he is sorry and remorseful and knows what he took
Speaker 4: from her. And after those words came out of my mouth,
Speaker 4: I went, oh my god, this is a murder suicide.
Speaker 4: And I went Oh, my god, Theresa, what did you
Speaker 4: just say? But the mother looked at me and said,
Speaker 4: that's why I came here. I wanted to know if
Speaker 4: he was remorseful, and if he was sorry, and if
Speaker 4: he knew how he took my life from me the
Speaker 4: day that he killed my daughter.
Speaker 3: But you couldn't hear his voice.
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear his voice, but I could see the energy.
Speaker 4: So but she was able because I couldn't lower my
Speaker 4: vibration lower. And again, don't ask me how. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I could just tell you what I see And how
Speaker 4: in the world would I know that that's what that
Speaker 4: woman came to that show for. And I always say,
Speaker 4: it's not up to me what spirit has me say
Speaker 4: or not say. I have to trust that. I just
Speaker 4: sometimes if they show me something, I sometimes have to
Speaker 4: try to find a way to deliver the message with
Speaker 4: dignity and grace.
Speaker 2: M Oh, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Must be a really big.
Speaker 2: Piece of this.
Speaker 4: It's yeah. I make what I do look very easy,
Speaker 4: and it's just I don't know how to be any different.
Speaker 4: It is the hardest thing that I have to do
Speaker 4: is to stand in front of someone and have the
Speaker 4: souls of the departed take us on this emotional rollercoaster,
Speaker 4: because I also want spirit to communicate with levity.
Speaker 3: We need the levity.
Speaker 4: These are very heavy messages and to really validate that
Speaker 4: the loved one soul is at peace, I feel a
Speaker 4: better way to do that with that personality and with laughter.
Speaker 4: And it's so hard, but I always say to people,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade what I do for anything here in
Speaker 4: the physical world. I consider it an honor and a
Speaker 4: privilege to do this work. And the fact that people
Speaker 4: trust me with the souls of their departed loved ones
Speaker 4: means the absolute world to me. Because I don't think
Speaker 4: it's easy to go to a medium. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's easy, especially sitting across from me.
Speaker 2: You're the first medium I've ever spoken to you, by
Speaker 2: the way. Oh, I've never been in the presence of
Speaker 2: a medium.
Speaker 4: Oh have you wanted to? Yes, yes, it's like but
Speaker 4: you're a But I don't feel I feel like you're ready.
Speaker 4: But I don't know about what. So I'll ask and
Speaker 4: then if anything comes Toro, I'll tell you, I'll ask who,
Speaker 4: I'll ask what. Because I felt I felt very guarded
Speaker 4: at first, and these are just my symbols, and then
Speaker 4: I felt that the guard kind of went down a
Speaker 4: little bit. So it was almost like, oh, you know what,
Speaker 4: I feel comfortable. I don't know if that's the way
Speaker 4: you felt going into this. I feel a little guarded.
Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous, but I'm welcoming anything.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I think that my I think I have family members
Speaker 2: that are not into it right, so and so that's
Speaker 2: a little hard. And also I feel like, I guess
Speaker 2: my question is if someone's on the sorry, well.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just going to say this to you,
Speaker 4: whether someone has difficulty with what I do. I try
Speaker 4: to look at myself something separate. I do what I
Speaker 4: do to help people, and I was just shown there
Speaker 4: was a separation, and separation from me could be emotional,
Speaker 4: geographical communication, or a long time that someone has departed.
Speaker 4: And I just felt that you needed to know that
Speaker 4: the soul knows of the woman that you've become has
Speaker 4: not missed out on your life. You have children, because
Speaker 4: I see the soul it's a mother figure. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's your grandmother or an aunt or
Speaker 4: someone like a mom or your actual mom, but holding
Speaker 4: souls of children before coming here into the physical world.
Speaker 4: So knowing of your children, and I don't know, do
Speaker 4: you do you have children?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 4: Okay, And do you feel like you see this soul
Speaker 4: in your child, like whether it be their eyes or
Speaker 4: like in action. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's funny. It's my mother's on the other side, okay,
Speaker 2: And she's been gone a long time, and I see her.
Speaker 4: It's okay.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just gonna do it. I see her with
Speaker 2: my daughter. Okay. My daughter's very similar.
Speaker 4: So know that when you see those things. And I
Speaker 4: feel like your daughter might even acknowledge your mom never
Speaker 4: met your mom, doesn't know who she is. But even
Speaker 4: my I don't know if she is, Like I don't
Speaker 4: know if she's old enough to have imaginary friends or
Speaker 4: if she showed me My granddaughter. So my granddaughter is
Speaker 4: only two and a half, but she's very connected to spirit.
Speaker 2: My daughter, I thought when she was little, she saw
Speaker 2: my mom.
Speaker 4: Perfect Know that that was real, Know that that was
Speaker 4: the soul showing them. Young children and animals are very
Speaker 4: sensitive to the souls of the departed because we as adults,
Speaker 4: our minds are so busy with burdens and guilts and
Speaker 4: just busyness of a day. Young children. Their minds are free.
Speaker 4: That's why I would say kids say the darnedest things right,
Speaker 4: and a lot of times it's the truth because they
Speaker 4: just say what it is that they're feeling.
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because my mother, I think what's high
Speaker 2: for me a little bit is my mother didn't like
Speaker 2: was was. I was raised Catholic, right, so it's like
Speaker 2: you're not like, so.
Speaker 4: Am I I'm a practicing Catholic. They take my money
Speaker 4: every week, but they don't agree with what I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's like if you have a
Speaker 2: soul on this side, if you had a person on
Speaker 2: this side that was raised that way and was not
Speaker 2: into that stuff, does it prevent them.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess something is coming through already.
Speaker 4: But I've had souls tell me, oh my god. I
Speaker 4: was afraid they weren't going to come through because they
Speaker 4: were an atheist. They didn't have a faith, they didn't
Speaker 4: have a religion. It just happened. The other night. There
Speaker 4: was a young boy that died, and he kept showing
Speaker 4: me he was standing with the Blessed Mother and doing
Speaker 4: the Sign of the Cross, and he made me feel
Speaker 4: like he had no faith. And I said to the mom,
Speaker 4: even though your son was not a practicing in their
Speaker 4: religion or faith, because that's some man's personal being. His
Speaker 4: soul has found a place with God. And she said,
Speaker 4: that is all I wanted to know. So, you know,
Speaker 4: people come and I feel like the work that I do,
Speaker 4: I can only speak about myself, why I do what
Speaker 4: I do, and how I allow the souls to use
Speaker 4: my physical body as a vessel. Was there something that
Speaker 4: you there's two things. Your mom showed me jewelry, so
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have a piece of her jewelry.
Speaker 4: But then I felt like you were either searching for
Speaker 4: something or you wanted something of hers.
Speaker 2: I had a piece of her jewelry. Okay, I had
Speaker 2: a ring.
Speaker 4: And did it get lost or it's gone? So now
Speaker 4: can I just ask you this? Did you just get
Speaker 4: like a chill or like a goosebum?
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I thought, I told my husband
Speaker 2: before I got on here. I was like, if she
Speaker 2: brings up the ring, then I'll know up like that
Speaker 2: specific piece of joy, Like that would be crazy.
Speaker 4: And I felt like you were searching for it. How
Speaker 4: would I know?
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I mean would I know that.
Speaker 4: Lost to So this is your mom's way of saying
Speaker 4: to you, yes, you had let's just say, her most
Speaker 4: prized possession or whatever it is, and now you lost it.
Speaker 4: You feel that she would be upset. My grandmother would
Speaker 4: always use terms like oh, they must be turning in
Speaker 4: that grade. It's the farthest thing from that, validating for
Speaker 4: you that even though you are still searching for this
Speaker 4: piece of jewelry doesn't mean that your mom is upset disappointed.
Speaker 4: Do you understand that?
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I know that she wouldn't be. Yeah, she
Speaker 3: wasn't really you know, like.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a really amazing piece of
Speaker 2: joy that the mental awe. But I know that she
Speaker 2: wouldn't be like that.
Speaker 4: No, but there's no way I would know that, or
Speaker 4: more importantly, valid this is This is the other thing
Speaker 4: I think people. I say this even in all my speeches.
Speaker 4: Before I do a reading, I always say, look, people
Speaker 4: come in with a list, and they even say, look,
Speaker 4: if this is real, my loved one's gonna say this,
Speaker 4: this and this, And I tell people your loved ones
Speaker 4: might talk about those things. But I can guarantee you
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of things that you would
Speaker 4: never expect them to bring up or talk about, because
Speaker 4: there are only so many different ways that people can
Speaker 4: pass away, and there are common burdens and guilts that
Speaker 4: we might carry. I always say that's not my fault
Speaker 4: or spirit's fault, that these things are common. So I
Speaker 4: need them to talk about unique and different things, things
Speaker 4: that you would never feel that they would know about,
Speaker 4: and especially in exact conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's weird because I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: open to this, but I just didn't know if she
Speaker 2: would be open to it.
Speaker 3: Jessica nosis like, I really like, she.
Speaker 4: Just snapped her fingers at me and then she restricted
Speaker 4: my throat. So did you not get the opportunity to
Speaker 4: say goodbye to her?
Speaker 2: Or I did not?
Speaker 4: Okay, So, knowing that everything and anything that you said
Speaker 4: to her know that she has heard, she doesn't want
Speaker 4: you to feel that anything was left unsaid. How do
Speaker 4: you connect with well, I don't know if it's twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: how do you connect with the number seventeen? So it'll
Speaker 4: ead to be the seventeenth of a month, it'll be
Speaker 4: the age or like January and July. But you would
Speaker 4: have to connect with both months as far as birthdays
Speaker 4: or anniversaries.
Speaker 2: I mean my husband was born on the seventeenth.
Speaker 4: Okay, she went like this to me, So that means
Speaker 4: that that has more meaning to it the seventeenth your husband.
Speaker 4: So look, is this a validation that she's saying If
Speaker 4: you wonder, oh my god, does my mom know? Did
Speaker 4: you your mom didn't know your husband? Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Validating for you? I wonder if my mom knows about
Speaker 4: my husband bringing up his birthdate? Well, who was the
Speaker 4: father figure for him that has departed? Who your husband?
Speaker 4: So it will be either his dad or grandfather or
Speaker 4: almost a grandfather.
Speaker 2: That's ten night.
Speaker 4: He has something very he kept something of his grandfather's
Speaker 4: that doesn't have any monot harry value whatsoever. Because he
Speaker 4: showed me like like a wallet. It's just my symbol.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be a wallet. It's just my
Speaker 4: validation that he has something that really doesn't time monetary value,
Speaker 4: validating that your mom does know of your husband knows
Speaker 4: of your children. How do you connect with trees? So
Speaker 4: trees could be I don't know you like trees? Your
Speaker 4: husband's a landscaper.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know how I connect with you or
Speaker 2: They could be a.
Speaker 4: Tree planted in memory of someone, or if someone was
Speaker 4: buried near a tree.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that connection.
Speaker 4: I'm going to pass on it. I actually like when
Speaker 4: someone can't connect with something because it might be someone
Speaker 4: might say, oh my god, I thought about doing it,
Speaker 4: or it just is also my symbol for when we
Speaker 4: did something in memory and in honor of a loved one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't think of what that would be.
Speaker 4: That's okay, that's fine. To who passed from the brain,
Speaker 4: like either a brain tumor at Alzheimer's or like a dementia.
Speaker 4: Because I just got a pain in the side of
Speaker 4: my head.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe my husband, jessicass you.
Speaker 4: Or unless if somebody was shot. No, okay, who else
Speaker 4: is on this call? Who's this? Who's mean?
Speaker 3: And the Courtney Ashley? Are you guys on this?
Speaker 2: Do you guys recognize anything to do with this?
Speaker 4: My mom's dad committed suicide and put himself in the head,
Speaker 4: so validating for you. I asked the souls to step
Speaker 4: forward because it's just belding that that soul has found
Speaker 4: a place with God and knowing that the soul is
Speaker 4: at peace. I always want souls to step forward that
Speaker 4: you would never expect to bring up or people, or
Speaker 4: that I would know about fair enough, So just know
Speaker 4: that the soul is at peace. And do you understand
Speaker 4: the tree as well?
Speaker 3: I don't understand the tree, but that just shook me up, Like, okay, really.
Speaker 2: Especially is that you? Yeah, it's Ashley.
Speaker 4: And then I just heard this ash I'm just going
Speaker 4: to say this one of the thing. Please don't let
Speaker 4: the way that I died define who I was. So
Speaker 4: now this is an example of why someone might come
Speaker 4: to see me. How can someone heal if they're afraid
Speaker 4: that their loved one's soul is not safe and a
Speaker 4: peace with God because of the way that they left
Speaker 4: the physical world? And what I do is about healing.
Speaker 4: It is not about anything else. We're going to grieve
Speaker 4: the loss of our loved ones for the rest of
Speaker 4: our lives here in the physical world. The healing process
Speaker 4: is something completely different. Grief is like this. It's this emotion,
Speaker 4: this powerful emotion that not only does that have anywhere
Speaker 4: to go, but it comes in waves and it's so
Speaker 4: heavy at times, and sometimes it seems a little lighter.
Speaker 4: And that is my wish for people, is that the
Speaker 4: grief becomes lighter. It's not going to go away, but
Speaker 4: being able to reflect on back and maybe taking something
Speaker 4: positive from having a reading with me and replacing it
Speaker 4: with the negative feelings that they have, and this is
Speaker 4: how they're able to release those negative emotions and really
Speaker 4: start to heal.
Speaker 2: Have you ever said no to a reading or somebody?
Speaker 4: Have I ever said no to it to a person
Speaker 4: or to a soul like someone physical?
Speaker 2: Either? I guess no.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jessica, I know we have so many questions.
Speaker 1: We have so many questions, sort of like you were explaining,
Speaker 1: I actually feel like my brain has just been wiped.
Speaker 2: It's just trippy talking about all of this. It's just
Speaker 2: your mind kind of feels like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way that you know, with all the people
Speaker 1: that are on this call, that you're not hearing everyone.
Speaker 4: I always say souls when I especially if there's more
Speaker 4: people in my presence, and sometimes even if it is
Speaker 4: just one person, souls will band together to deliver a
Speaker 4: messages at one time. So that's why my life shows
Speaker 4: they're so powerful and why people walk away feeling something
Speaker 4: even if they don't personally get read, they take something
Speaker 4: from that.
Speaker 3: Does it make you not afraid of death at all.
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to die, and I think that's something
Speaker 4: that I always struggled with, especially being young, and I
Speaker 4: think maybe most of us do. I don't want to die,
Speaker 4: yeah see, yeah, but you're not afraid. But I'm not
Speaker 4: afraid because I know that I will be greeted by
Speaker 4: loved ones that have gone on before me.
Speaker 2: Do you see when you say that you're seeing, do
Speaker 2: you do you can you? Is it a picture in
Speaker 2: your mind? Or do you ever see spirit kind of
Speaker 2: physically in the world, almost like a ghost?
Speaker 4: So I used to. I don't anymore, I think because
Speaker 4: I work so much, and I literally when when I
Speaker 4: first started doing mediumship, long before Long Island medium and
Speaker 4: raising spirits I had I had, I would be like
Speaker 4: getting ready for work and I would see a man
Speaker 4: standing behind me and then I would describe the person
Speaker 4: in the to the person that I was reading, like oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was my dad, that was my brother. And I
Speaker 4: had a little sit down and I said, listen, if
Speaker 4: you want me to do this work, I gotta stop
Speaker 4: seeing them like that because it's freaking me out. It
Speaker 4: was constant and it didn't stop, so I don't see
Speaker 4: them like like they'll just show me a flash like
Speaker 4: before when you were speaking Jessica's that your name? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I kept seeing uh someone, so I kept seeing dog
Speaker 4: tags and someone saluting you.
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about Ashley? Who was I think Ashley,
Speaker 2: who's not on this pod right now.
Speaker 4: Oh, well, I don't know that. I know, I don't
Speaker 4: know where this went to. But I just kept seeing it.
Speaker 4: But I didn't feel pushed enough to say something to someone.
Speaker 4: So it's also a difference. So I can always see things,
Speaker 4: feel things, sense things, but not always feel the need
Speaker 4: to say something to someone. Mm hmm if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: No, that does? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you does you know you have a daughter?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 3: Does she also have this gift?
Speaker 4: My daughter shows extreme uh similarities to myself.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right now, okay.
Speaker 4: And and and my son as well. But my son
Speaker 4: is very different. You know, He's just extremely intuitive. He
Speaker 4: just has this sensitive well everyone knows my son, my son,
Speaker 4: my son, he's this sweet sensitive you know.
Speaker 1: Here we have the we have a son too, we
Speaker 1: both the little babies.
Speaker 4: The little It's just something about him. He and both
Speaker 4: my children, they just have this aura and presence about
Speaker 4: them and uh. But so he shows his gifts in
Speaker 4: a different way I feel than than my daughter. My
Speaker 4: daughter shows most like me, but she she doesn't. She
Speaker 4: she struggles with it, you know, because she struggles with
Speaker 4: anxiety and a lot of other things, and and it's
Speaker 4: very difficult to navigate through.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I had someone wanted who wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you about orbs. Oh, okay, okay, So they have been
Speaker 2: seeing orbs. They were actually living in a house that
Speaker 2: was considered haunted and they have been seeing orbs.
Speaker 3: They've caught them on the camera. Okay, is that something.
Speaker 2: That you do believe are is a manifestation of spirit
Speaker 2: or no in your experience.
Speaker 4: In my experience. So there was just an episode where
Speaker 4: we just did on Raising Spirits where they were taking
Speaker 4: pictures and you could see the orbits. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: here's your mom's face right here, and when you zoomed
Speaker 4: into the orb, you literally saw the mom's features. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was the episode Raising Spirits with John Thesen of
Speaker 4: this foundation that I work with here on Long Island.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and you could literally see his mother's face.
Speaker 4: So a lot of times a blurb or an ORB.
Speaker 4: See years ago, we used to take it as double exposure. Right,
Speaker 4: with negatives, we'd be like, oh, it was just a
Speaker 4: double exposure. But if you take an ORB and you
Speaker 4: kind of expanded and you kind of look around a
Speaker 4: lot of times you might see old pictures that you
Speaker 4: had of your loved ones that might be hanging on
Speaker 4: a refrigerator, even a photo album, and it's them right there,
Speaker 4: because they're showing you the way that they were when
Speaker 4: they were healthy, because they don't want us to remember
Speaker 4: them suffering and or sick. They want us to remember
Speaker 4: them because they say, from the moment the soul leaves
Speaker 4: the physical body, they leave behind all of that suffering,
Speaker 4: they don't take it with them. So I believe in
Speaker 4: blurbs and orbs, distortions, blurriness in pictures where you could
Speaker 4: see some where it looks really blurry the whole picture
Speaker 4: that's the soul moving swiftly past someone, and then the
Speaker 4: next picture will be perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yes, this is blowing my mind right now. Okay, Jess,
Speaker 2: next question I'm is just going to say, but next
Speaker 2: question is great now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like along for the ride.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Teresa, we've been that.
Speaker 2: We talk NonStop and this is the first time that
Speaker 2: we're like just in complete stunned, like silence right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know. I think it's it's funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I truly feel like blank minded and
Speaker 1: I feel like you're meant to be in charge right now.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, do you want me to
Speaker 4: keep talking? Like I can do that. I could not
Speaker 4: stop talk.
Speaker 3: I mean there's something that's telling me yes.
Speaker 4: But you know how I feel with you, like I
Speaker 4: feel like you're so open and like because you had
Speaker 4: such a great experience, you're open to it and you
Speaker 4: see how messages can help someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's almost like you're just I don't look
Speaker 4: at it as a blank You really came into this
Speaker 4: with an open mind and open heart and open soul
Speaker 4: and just like whatever's gonna happen is going to happen.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why you feel that way.
Speaker 2: I think I think that's true.
Speaker 1: And I think that I believe so much in things
Speaker 1: happening when they were meant to happen. And that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean like whenever people say you know, everything happens for
Speaker 1: a reason, I sort of think that that's not true
Speaker 1: because I actually think that there's or I think that's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to say to someone who's really grieving
Speaker 1: right the way that you're talking about. You know, when
Speaker 1: someone's really feeling the pain of the loss of a
Speaker 1: loved one, it's not comforting to say everything happens for
Speaker 1: a reason. It's comforting to have healing. It's comforting to
Speaker 1: have someone you know name it or give context or reassurance.
Speaker 1: I do think that being open allows me to walk
Speaker 1: through the world feeling like anything could happen and the
Speaker 1: possibilities of that in an optimistic way and not trying
Speaker 1: to also get ahead of things because I also have
Speaker 1: dealt with anxiety in my life, and when I futurize
Speaker 1: or when I think about the bad things that can happen,
Speaker 1: they just get.
Speaker 2: Bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, but when I prepare.
Speaker 1: For things, like when I know what I'm going into
Speaker 1: and I feel prepared, it's a totally different feeling. I
Speaker 1: really love again the openness of feeling like there's someone
Speaker 1: who has access to another realm that actually has real knowing.
Speaker 4: I think it's important to trust your intuition and your
Speaker 4: gut instinct. I always say that's your loved ones and
Speaker 4: if you don't mind me saying it, even God guiding
Speaker 4: them and saying, you know, you got to pay attention here.
Speaker 4: And I understand that things happen for a reason, you know.
Speaker 4: And I know you know how many times my daughter.
Speaker 2: Was born in twenty seventeen, she said seventeen. You said seventeen.
Speaker 4: Right, You'll be able to connect with it in a
Speaker 4: lot of in different ways, in different ways. I just
Speaker 4: was like, ringo, I love the way you raised your
Speaker 4: hand because that was totally like, you know, like, oh
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's an important That's an important number in
Speaker 2: my world, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's happened time and time again. When a
Speaker 4: child else wants me to say to their mom, you know,
Speaker 4: I was exactly where I was supposed to be the
Speaker 4: day that I died. How do I say that to someone?
Speaker 2: That's hard?
Speaker 4: But then the souls will explain it, and that's the
Speaker 4: thing that is amazing. They'll say. Sometimes they'll have me say,
Speaker 4: you know, I almost died at birth or something happened
Speaker 4: as a young Try where I shouldn't survive and where
Speaker 4: I look at it that God gave us these seventeen
Speaker 4: years you know, he didn't take you from me. We
Speaker 4: were given this gift of seventeen years. And I think
Speaker 4: because there's most certainly been things in my life that
Speaker 4: have happened. And I was like, oh, and I thought
Speaker 4: it was like the end of the world, and I
Speaker 4: did almost die and I looked at it like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what this was. This happened for a reason
Speaker 4: because I needed to reground myself. I needed to reprioritize
Speaker 4: my life and get my life in order. And you know,
Speaker 4: so things I do believe truly do happen for a reason.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a clear cliche statement, and I
Speaker 4: don't believe in coincidences. I believe that that is someone
Speaker 4: something playing a bigger part in our life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you when when someone dies really young, do they
Speaker 2: end up sort of growing up on the other side
Speaker 2: the soul grows.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting yes, because souls will show me that.
Speaker 4: They'll show me like say that they'll show me, they'll
Speaker 4: show me the number four and then they'll they'll like
Speaker 4: go like, they'll show me their soul below my knees
Speaker 4: and then they'll be my height. That's my symbol for that.
Speaker 4: The soul has grown on the other side. And some
Speaker 4: people will say then they'll sometimes they'll have me say
Speaker 4: they I showed my mom in a dream. They just
Speaker 4: dreamt of a little girl, and she didn't recognize or
Speaker 4: tell her that's what I would look like. And the
Speaker 4: I know that I don't even dream of my life
Speaker 4: so crazy, and they'll say, I did have a dream
Speaker 4: and I thought it was my daughter, So you know,
Speaker 4: and I I think the thing that I love about
Speaker 4: the work that I do is that it allows people
Speaker 4: to feel the way that they feel and to validate
Speaker 4: what they're feeling, where other people might think that they're
Speaker 4: crazy or that it's just wishful thinking, or they're just
Speaker 4: trying to make themselves feel better. M you know, it's
Speaker 4: still after all these years of doing what I do,
Speaker 4: spirit continues to have me do or say something that
Speaker 4: my jaw just drops and I'm like, I'm out. I
Speaker 4: gotta go because it's crazy. It's crazy in an amazing Wayah.
Speaker 2: Wow. Do you have spirit guides that help you with
Speaker 2: this process? And are they human spirit guides or are
Speaker 2: they were they humans wants or are they angels? What
Speaker 2: do you consider them to be?
Speaker 4: That I don't know. I was just shown that they
Speaker 4: were my spirit guides. Solarna is my angel, she is
Speaker 4: my god side. And then I have Chief, which is native,
Speaker 4: so indigenous. He watches over and he takes care of
Speaker 4: a different part of my gift.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you able to have conversations with them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I have. They're the ones that showed me that this
Speaker 4: is the work that I have to do. They also
Speaker 4: told me this is my last journey here in the
Speaker 4: physical world, that my soul will not re enter because
Speaker 4: I've done the work. And now I don't know if
Speaker 4: I'm gonna then become a guardian angel or a spirit
Speaker 4: guide or what have you. Because some people have said
Speaker 4: spirit guides never walked the earth before. Some people say
Speaker 4: that there are other loved ones. So the work that
Speaker 4: I do is so much more than just communicating with
Speaker 4: people that have died. It has reunited families back together.
Speaker 4: It has given people back their faith and whatever that is.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a religion, faith in themselves, faith in living
Speaker 4: life again. And because no matter what has happened to
Speaker 4: us in the past five years, four years, we all
Speaker 4: lost something and I think we deserve to grieve. Whatever
Speaker 4: that is. An argument, a friendship, a job, maybe we
Speaker 4: retired and retirement doesn't look the same. I think we
Speaker 4: have to just learn to love, honor, and respect ourselves
Speaker 4: more than anything.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: I love we We've never been so like sucked in
Speaker 2: Jess on a.
Speaker 3: Podcast Theresa, You've got us.
Speaker 2: We're like, we can do this for hours.
Speaker 3: I know, I feel a.
Speaker 1: Little dumb, to be honest, I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: my brain just got sucked out of my head.
Speaker 2: I know, because you're we're talking about something that's just
Speaker 2: so important. I really think it's just so important. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the spirits of people that we have, what
Speaker 2: we love so much in this world, that we really
Speaker 2: don't know anything about. And it's hard not to know
Speaker 2: all the things, right. So, I think when you're in
Speaker 2: the presence of someone that has this kind of gift,
Speaker 2: it's just so exciting and you're in so much awe
Speaker 2: that you don't even know all. Like, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I have some questions written down, because
Speaker 2: they're all out the window now.
Speaker 4: Well. Sometimes I always feel like if you go over
Speaker 4: the questions somehow during our conversation, they were probably answered
Speaker 4: in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, no, I just I think that what you
Speaker 2: do is so incredible and it's and it is interesting
Speaker 2: to have been raised in a way that you know,
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 3: Supposed to like meddle with all those things.
Speaker 2: And I and as I've gotten older, I've just really
Speaker 2: don't feel that way anymore because I feel like if
Speaker 2: I crossed over and I had the opportunity to speak
Speaker 2: to my kids, I would take that opportunity. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, every spirit feels that way. I'm
Speaker 2: sure some spirits don't. Well do you do you come
Speaker 2: across spirits that refrain from coming through.
Speaker 4: That refrained from coming through? Yes, no, because if I
Speaker 4: can see them, I know that they're there for a
Speaker 4: reason so that they have something to say. And I
Speaker 4: think it's important. You know, you know you you use
Speaker 4: the word and I liked it. You said meddling, and
Speaker 4: you're one hundred percent right. There are probably people and
Speaker 4: things on how people meddle on the other side that
Speaker 4: they shouldn't. You know. I can just speak for myself.
Speaker 4: I protect everything that I do in God's white light.
Speaker 4: I treat the souls of the departed like my children.
Speaker 4: If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say
Speaker 4: anything at all, go to the back of.
Speaker 2: The room, you know.
Speaker 4: So. And I just love when when spirit you know,
Speaker 4: when you could just feel that someone is lighter, but
Speaker 4: you could just see it. You know, You'll have to
Speaker 4: come to one of my live shows, I mean, because
Speaker 4: just to feel it and witness it is just something.
Speaker 4: And to watch spirit guide me around a space is just.
Speaker 2: It's I watch your show Raising Spirits. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: name I mean, I mean, I've watched all your shows.
Speaker 2: I know that this is like your newest show. But
Speaker 2: every episode I'm sucked in, Like every single episode I
Speaker 2: walk away and it doesn't it doesn't feel like a
Speaker 2: TV show to me. It feels like like a spiritual experience.
Speaker 2: Just being an audience member it is. I can imagine
Speaker 2: an a live show where you're touring with so many people,
Speaker 2: the energy in that audience must be like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And to watch perfect strangers console one another, that's what
Speaker 4: always gets me is you know, it kind of restores
Speaker 4: my faith in the world. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Connection, mm hmm. Yeah, you do incredible and very powerful.
Speaker 2: I know, I know. I want to talk to you
Speaker 2: all day, Teresa.
Speaker 4: You could end me back on Okay, You're only a
Speaker 4: zoom away exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, okay, oh my gosh, I think you
Speaker 1: think you. Thank you, thank you for coming on, thank
Speaker 1: you for your openness, for your teaching, for your healing.
Speaker 1: Really grateful.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And then Teresa, where can people get tickets for your tour?
Speaker 4: Theresakaputro dot com. And I tell people out there too,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of scams out there. If people are
Speaker 4: contacting you pretending to be me asking for money, it
Speaker 4: is not me. Join my fan club. So you could
Speaker 4: purchase tickets at the correct ticket pricing. It's nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4: It's worth it to purchase the tickets. And I give
Speaker 4: all the proceeds after the quster of running the fan
Speaker 4: club back to the fans. So we're able to do
Speaker 4: a lot of great things, donating money, doing great fan
Speaker 4: club events, and a lot of great work. So I
Speaker 4: just want to thank the both of you for really,
Speaker 4: I guess, giving me a platform in a way of
Speaker 4: just really showing a different side of me. So I
Speaker 4: appreciate that very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and thank you for talking to some of
Speaker 2: our people on the other side.
Speaker 4: Of course, anytime I'm getting also all right, we'll have
Speaker 4: to have you back on and I'm going to steal
Speaker 4: you for a longer reading at some point. You never
Speaker 4: know you thank you anytime, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh holy moly, that Oh my gosh, that was a lot.
Speaker 2: That was a lot.
Speaker 1: I've never seen us be speechless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we always have.
Speaker 2: So I had all these questions and I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened. I feel like I was just so sucked in.
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to bother talking. It's almost how
Speaker 2: I felt. I was like, let me just listen to
Speaker 2: her all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she believes that people have this gift.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt a little self conscious that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel intuitive too. I mean, well, I'm like not
Speaker 1: compared to her, Well, that's.
Speaker 2: The next level. And I didn't realize that she had
Speaker 2: it since she was four two.
Speaker 1: I the other mediums that I have spoken with, it
Speaker 1: was very very.
Speaker 2: That's very young. I can't imagine to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also like that feeling of I think
Speaker 1: I feel like the common thread is feeling not like
Speaker 1: the others when that's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I just I think that she's when you're
Speaker 2: in the presence of someone that has it, feels like
Speaker 2: they have that like telephone line, right, that like direct service, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that access. It's just you don't want to stop talking.
Speaker 1: She also impressed me with her ability to translate and
Speaker 1: the way that she has created her own filters for
Speaker 1: what's coming through her. It seemed very much like it
Speaker 1: was about healing. Like I heard her say healing the
Speaker 1: most and I heard her really categorize what she has
Speaker 1: as a gift and that if she could use uh
Speaker 1: that gift to heal others and help others, that that
Speaker 1: would be that'd be what she wants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there were I'm multiple we can see each other.
Speaker 1: You guys can't see us, but I am. I cried
Speaker 1: multiple time too. Yeah, I was very emotional.
Speaker 2: I just this is one of those podcasts that we're
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna say goodbye to you guys. But I
Speaker 2: think I'll just sit in my chair for like an
Speaker 2: hour just processing. Yeah. Yeah, it's so crazy. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: definitely want to have her back on. And I know
Speaker 2: we only got through a few questions, but you guys,
Speaker 2: if you have more, send us, and I promise that
Speaker 2: I'll try and.
Speaker 1: We'll figure out we would we would we want one
Speaker 1: single person where we're like and we're done with you.
Speaker 2: No more you no no. But this one's just this
Speaker 2: one was extra wild. This yeah, this one was another realm.
Speaker 2: I loved it and I love you and.
Speaker 3: I love you too.
Speaker 2: It was such a like, I mean, I want to
Speaker 2: like cry that I like got to like talk to
Speaker 2: somebody through you too. Yeah, with you.
Speaker 1: Very special, all.
Speaker 4: Right, you guys.
Speaker 2: This was an extra extra special episode of Call it
Speaker 2: what it is, Jessica, why don't you call it?
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that we can now call it the
Speaker 1: end of the episode,