1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick wring you the 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: latest go on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and Huddle Up with Bucky 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Brooks is brought to you by the Field's Auto Group, 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Jacksonville ce Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury auto group. Go 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: to Fieldsauto dot com. It is Wednesday, It is Huddle Up. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with John Oser. We're at the Honday Studios 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: inside the middle of Electric Center. Bucky Brooks is out 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and the good afternoon, Bucky. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: What's up man? 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: What's going on? Guys? I'm giving you a different look. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 5: It's a new Bucky Brooks here. It's not where are you, 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 5: It's not the backdrop of the office that a Jaguars. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 5: What's what's the shirt? 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: What are you rolling with? Today? 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 4: No? 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 6: No, I just I just happened to be in my 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 6: son's in my son's room as opposed to like my 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 6: typical office. I got some things going on into the 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 6: house and so I'm just you know different location. 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, glad you uh, glad you adjusted for us. It's 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: great to great to see you a lot to get to. 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: Of course, phase three is here organized team activities and uh, 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: we're closing in on the end of the off season program. 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: What eight practices including I guess Wednesdays, uh to go 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: at ot as and then three mini camp practices on 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: the schedule, so not a lot of time left on 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: the field in this offseason. 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: And Johnny, you were out there on Monday. I was 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: You've been around that been a lot of a lot 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: of online reviews of some of the practice. What did 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: you see? 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: I saw a team that was practicing for the first 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: time in shorts and pads and with a new offense 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: and new defense. Uh. And I saw a May football practice, 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 5: and some of the questions afterward were sort of toward 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: as if there had been some tragedy with the offense. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 5: And you know, what I saw that I liked, And 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: all I really wanted to see was that Bucky the 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 5: receivers are really fast. I thought Trevor Lawrence's quote about 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: Travis Hunter getting in and out of breaks, that's all 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: I wanted to hear about Travis Hunter. You know, would 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: that translate with that element of his games. I think 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: if he can do that, he can get open in 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 5: the NFL. And if he can get open, he can 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 5: make catches. He's that kind of playmaker. Brian Thomas Junior 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: looked to me like a guy who you know, was 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: great as a rookie and now now he's in the NFL. Man, 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 5: I mean like, now he knows how to get open. 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Now he's impressive. He looks like he's gonna be dominant 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: moving forward. And Downy Brown looked really fast. So all 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 5: I cared about was sort of seeing some traits, because 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 5: that's all that's all you look for. If you're trying 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 5: to evaluate on this, you're missing the boat. 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's some things that you're looking for 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 6: when you first see them. In OTA's one, you got 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 6: a new coaching staff, so you're trying to get a 60 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 6: feel for how the team looks as a casual. You're 61 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 6: trying to say, man, do they look organized and structured? 62 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 6: Does it appear to be that this is a group 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 6: that is paying attention to detail those things just from 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 6: a structural standpoint, new coaching staff, a bunch of young 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 6: coaches trying to figure it out, so like, how does 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 6: that look. Then you're beginning to assess the overall feel 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: of the team. Do you like to speed, the athleticism, 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: how do they look physically, are they big? Do they 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 6: appear to be an imposing type team compared to in 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: the past, And then you're beginning to look at how 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 6: they're going through what they're being asked to do. So 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 6: people have really spent a lot of time talking about 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 6: the wide receivers and how fast they are they getting 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: in and. 75 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: Out of the cuts and all of that. 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 6: You're just trying to make sure that there aren't any 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 6: glaring red flags that pop up doing this part of 78 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 6: the off season. We can talk about a it's a 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 6: scriptive practice in those things and it doesn't matter, it doesn't, 80 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: but you just want to make sure that doing these 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: things that don't matter, we at least look like we 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 6: know what we're doing and we're doing it very very fast. 83 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: I think what is annually forgotten from fans is, uh, 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 5: this is when they practice and they are putting in 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: a new system where yes, they have done individual work 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 5: and some you know, some stuff on the field in 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: phase one, in phase two, but this week is the 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: first time that they these guys have run this offense 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: anything close to live. And this is the teaching time. 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 5: If you're not teaching right now, when are you teaching, 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: Because there's no time to teach in training camp anymore. 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm exaggerating that, but to a point. You've 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: got to sort of be ready to go because you're 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 5: not working like you used to in training camp. So 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: this is absolutely designed to teach and to be a classroom. 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: And I'm not sure you want a Trevor at the 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: end of OTAs to have completed eighty five percent with 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: like one interception, because then he's probably checking down every play, right. 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: So base ol Tooton's getting a lot of We've seen 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: that before around here. 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 6: We have seen that in you know, Johnny may Gray 103 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 6: point like we have new systems going in on both 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: sides of the ball, these special teams at stage of 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 6: saying because he remained as the coordinator, but offensively, yeah, 106 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 6: you are trying to learn something that's completely different than 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 6: the previous system. 108 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: The coach is also learning, you know. 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: It's one thing to draw these things up on papers, 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 6: another thing to begin to see how what they think 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 6: the team is going to be able to do is 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 6: executed by the players, and do you have to tweak 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 6: and adapt to the personnel that you have, particularly when 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 6: it comes to Trevor Lawrence. All of those things are 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 6: being played out in real time and dependent upon how 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 6: the coaching staff les to utilize this process where you're 117 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: pushing the envelope. You're trying to put as much in 118 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: as you can to see how the players learn and 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 6: retain while also doing they want to admit this some experimentation. Hey, 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 6: let's see what these concepts look like on the grass 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 6: against this defense. Let's get this on tape so we 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: can figure out do we like this. Do we like 123 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 6: it enough to install it in training camp and potentially 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 6: use it during the season, or we put it on 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 6: tape and then that we've seen it, it doesn't look 126 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 6: as good on the grass as it did on the whiteboard. 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 6: All of those things are going into play while also 128 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: teaching a bunch of players new fundamentals and new techniques 129 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: that are scheme specific so. 130 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: They can execute the jobs. When it comes to it. 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: There's a lot of stuff going on, and so we 132 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 6: shouldn't overreact to anything that we see. We'll have plenty 133 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 6: of time to make assessment, assessments and assertions. Once we 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 6: get into training camp, preseason games in the first part 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 6: of the. 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Season, huddle up with the Bucky Brooks. 137 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: You speaking of overreaction, the ozone is a place for 138 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: people overreact something. Clips's daily on jauars dot com. 139 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: Question and answer. 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: If you've never heard of John Ozure, that's what he does. 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: So one of I think it was today, I think 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: it was Wednesday. Somebody asked about toot and fumbling of football. 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: Well, yes they did, and that I was actually going 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 5: to bring up because I guess he's fumbled a little 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: in the past in college. I would say I'm worried 146 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: about it. But you know, fumbling on the first on 147 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: his first snap of OTAs, you don't want to be 148 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: that guy. So I'd be a little more concerned about 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: a fumble in OTAs and would an interception in OTAs. 150 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: And by concerned, I mean maybe it's a two on 151 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: a scale of one hundred, right, I mean, but you 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: don't want that to be a thing. So I'm not 153 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: worried about that. But if you continue to see fumbles 154 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: in practice over time, then you do worry about being 155 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: a thing. But I'm going to assume it's not what 156 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: this is right. 157 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one of those things like you want to 158 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 6: make sure the ball security is there and it's only 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: going if you're putting the ball on the ground. Now, 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 6: you want to make the player aware of it because 161 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: coming from college to the pros, one of the biggest 162 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 6: difference is how defenders go hunt the ball in the 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: NFL game, it is a priority. Everyone talks about it 164 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 6: to peanut punch and the way they just rake at it. 165 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 6: You have to be tight with the ball, making sure 166 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: it's high and tight, and then you've got to be 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 6: aware of it like front of mind in traffic that 168 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: they're always going for it. But it's not something that 169 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 6: you should be overly concerned. It's a coaching point. It's 170 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 6: a teaching point. You can't expect a player to play 171 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: like a pro until they get into the pros. And 172 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 6: part of this part of the off season is the 173 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 6: transition from how you played in college to how you 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 6: expected to play as a pro. And so they're going 175 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 6: to be some bumps along the way and some things 176 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 6: that everybody has to learn, particularly with a new coaching 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 6: staff coming over implementing their own culture structure, expectations and standards. 178 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I saw on on Monday that 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: was really exciting and intriguing. Was I mentioned it at 180 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: the top, Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe all the receivers apply 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: to this, but really him, it looks to me like, 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 5: for the first time in a long time, Justin could 183 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 5: have been it and he never worked out here by Blackman, 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 5: But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy who is 185 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 5: always going to be open. And I'm exaggerating that, but 186 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 5: you know, when you watch Cincinnati Jamar Chase, you know 187 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: you know they can feed that guy the ball and 188 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 5: a lot of trust there. It'd be unusual if they 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: can't go to him. Travis Hunter looks like a guy 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: who's gonna be open a lot, and I think they've 191 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 5: got three or four guys. GM a long time ago 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 5: told me for a great quarterback, you need four guys 193 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 5: in the offensive system who you trust can beat a 194 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: single coverage and beat it badly that you can't leave 195 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: single covered. It looks like they're getting pretty close to 196 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 5: that here where if you leave a BTJ single covered, 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 5: you're gonna lose. It looks like Travis Hunter can be 198 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: that guy. I think Dianmi Brown looks like he's got 199 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: ways to beat you, so that that gets real interesting 200 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: because that's hard to get that high level combination. And 201 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: I kind of think Travis etn might fit in there, Bucky, 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 5: I mean it. Yeah, the skill guys on this offense 203 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: have gotten really interesting with the addition of Hunter and Brown. 204 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 205 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 6: And one of the things that happens if you are 206 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 6: a team that wants to create explosive plays, speed is 207 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 6: the quickest. 208 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: Way to be able to accomplish that. 209 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 6: Because when you have a fast team, you can generate 210 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 6: those explosives in a few different ways. One, you can 211 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: throw it over the top of the defense too. You 212 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 6: can throw it on crossing routes and they can catch and. 213 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: Run and run past everybody. 214 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 6: Three, the space that is created by the threats on 215 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 6: the perimeter can create opportunities for the running game to 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 6: pop because now the defense is spread out. What it 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: appears that the Jaguars have made a concerted effort to 218 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 6: get faster and more explosive, and ultimately that's going to 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 6: make the game. 220 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: Easier for Trevor Lawrence. 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: When you are committed to Trevor Lawrence, like the Jaguars are, 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 6: and you're paying them the amount of money that you're 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: paying them. Everything is really about making him comfortable, making 224 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 6: the game easy for him so that his natural talents 225 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: can come through. So it's the supporting staff, the supporting casts, 226 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 6: the scheme, everything is designed to make sure that sixteen is. 227 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: Able to elevate his game. 228 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: And in a quarterback driven league, particularly in the AFC, 229 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 6: where the quarterbacks are locked and loaded and stacked, we 230 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: have to find a way to get Trevor Lawrence to 231 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 6: play an elite level and some of that might be 232 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 6: through the scheming and the personnel that has been put 233 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 6: in place. 234 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: The schedule is finally here. 235 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss the matchups this season, whether 236 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: you want to become a season ticket member, catch three 237 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: or more games with Bundle at the Bank, or experience 238 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: the season with a prow pass. There's a plan for 239 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: every fan. Sure that's secure your tickets now Jaguars dot Com, 240 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: slash tickets or cold nine oh four six three three 241 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: two thousand. 242 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: That's John Oser, I'm JP Shadwick. 243 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles. Yeah, well that 244 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: schedules out Bucky, since we talked, what do you think 245 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: like it? 246 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: Look, I like it. I won't go crazy and be like, 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: oh it's easy, it's hard, or whatever. 248 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 249 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 6: I think the main thing that you're looking for very 250 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 6: early is can this team get out to a fast start. 251 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 6: It's been proven like research to tell you that the 252 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 6: first quarter of the season ultimately can determine whether you're 253 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 6: going to be. 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: A playoff team or not. 255 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 6: And if you can race out to Gate to a 256 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: three and one or a four in our start, more 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 6: than likely you're going to be in the postseason. When 258 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: I look at the opening few games, like, there's an 259 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: opportunity at Jaguars play well to put themselves in a 260 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: position to be in the hunt when it matters down 261 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 6: the stretch. But it's gonna take them playing well. And 262 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 6: the thing about schedules, we never know what teams are 263 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 6: going to be like. But we know, look, man, the 264 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: Panthers coming out the Gate and the Bengals, it's gonna 265 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 6: be interesting playing them in the home opener with Jamar 266 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 6: Chase and T Higgins and those guys. And then you 267 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 6: got some interesting games coming under pipe with a Monday 268 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 6: night game in Kansas City at home. I mean, there's 269 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 6: some tough games, But look, you can't fear who's on 270 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: the slate. You got to go out and play and 271 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 6: so hopefully we hit the ground running, but we've got 272 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 6: to play well. 273 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: Out the gate. 274 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting schedule because it's it can be 275 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 5: looked at multiple ways. I think it's a tough five 276 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: out of the box and even a tough seven out 277 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: of the box. 278 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: Ye. 279 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. And you have Carolina, which had a losing record 280 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: last year, and then your only team out of the 281 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 5: next seven with a losing record last year with San 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: fran and they just don't feel like they sort of 283 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 5: feel like Cincinnati to me, like even if they have 284 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 5: a tough season, you feel like with what they are, 285 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: they're not gonna be bad coming out of the gate 286 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: the next year. So I think it's tough. And then 287 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: at the same time, you have five out of those 288 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 5: seven or home games. So this franchise, the people running 289 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: it believe that they're a lot better than they were 290 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: last year. So if you're if you're better than you 291 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 5: were last year, then you're about five hundred team, you know, 292 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: or maybe better. And if you're that level team, then 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: you're supposed to go take advantage of home games and 294 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: sort of stay afloat through this tough spot and be 295 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: ready to compete when it gets quote more manageable at 296 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 5: the end. So I guess that's kind of a long 297 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: witted way of saying. The most obvious thing was that 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: if if the Jaguars are good, this is a pretty 299 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: manageable schedule. If they're giving away games at the end 300 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: like they were last year, then you've got five or 301 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 5: six seven teams that all look like they're the on 302 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: a team that can take it from you if you 303 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 5: give it away. There's some teams that can't. But all 304 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: these teams look good enough that you know you've got 305 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: to play well. But if they're good, they're okay, So duh, right, 306 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: But I do think that's it. There's no gimmes early. 307 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: But if you're gonna make the playoffs, you got to 308 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: win more than just your gimmis. 309 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you gotta win your games, you 310 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: gotta come out of it. And then really the important 311 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: part for me is funny, like we finished with the 312 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 6: same slate of teams that we always finished with. 313 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: We always kind of end up with Tennessee and Indianapolis 314 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: in some kind of order. The main thing that you 315 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: want to do year one new program. 316 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: You want to put yourself in a position where you 317 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 6: went when you get into December, you having a reasonable 318 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 6: opportunity to be able to get into the postseason, whatever 319 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 6: that looks like. You want to be playing your best 320 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 6: ball heading into December, new regime. 321 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: New thing, as they're ironing things out. 322 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 6: You just don't want to fall off the grid, and 323 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: then you would like to build some momentum. So there's 324 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 6: some opportunities for this team to build momentum down the stretch. 325 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: But I'll say this, particularly. 326 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 6: Coming off last year and even though the roster has 327 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: been flipped, a lot of it is going to be 328 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: how is this team going to handle the storm that 329 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: ultimately comes for every team If they have a bad 330 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: stretch where they lose two games in a row, potentially 331 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 6: three games in a row, do they have the wherewithal 332 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: to navigate their way through it and to get back 333 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 6: into the race. Last year we saw when they fell 334 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: off the wagon, they just couldn't They couldn't get up, 335 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 6: and the same could be said the previous year. Does 336 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 6: this team, over the course of training camp in the 337 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 6: early part of the season, can they develop enough chemistry 338 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: enough grit and resilience to be able to handle the 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 6: tough moments that happened for every team, whether it's champion 340 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 6: or not, it's coming. How do we navigate through it? 341 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 6: That will be the determining fact on how good we 342 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 6: will be this season. And it's Liam Cohen's first head 343 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: coaching gig. If he's going to have to manage and 344 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 6: handle some of this, We've seen Doug Peterson, right, try 345 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 6: to do that here, and he's been through the battles 346 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 6: before in the NFL. Not his first job here, but 347 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 6: Liam's gonna have to learn how to do that as well. 348 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Job. 349 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's really the when you talk 350 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: about culture change and changing the building and all that stuff, 351 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 5: I think that's what it is. There was something that 352 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: happened in twenty three when they were eight and three 353 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 5: and Trevor Christian Kirk got hurt and I hate to 354 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 5: always go back to that, but that was just the 355 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 5: theme and something happened where it felt to me like 356 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 5: the team lost belief. They were a team that believed 357 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: in itself into that eight and three start where they 358 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 5: were winning games just gutty right, And I thought I 359 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 5: wrote it often, I thought this was a team that 360 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: sort of knows how to win. It's a tough, you know, 361 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 5: kind of thing that all of a sudden just went 362 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: away seemingly in like one night, and it never quite 363 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 5: came back last year. Now, I get everything's new, but 364 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: we're still talking about the Jaguars and there's players who 365 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: went through that. How how much does that feeling? And 366 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: I think we all felt at watching it where in 367 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 5: the last what twenty one twenty two games, there was 368 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: always an oh, here we go again. We're like, hey, yeah, 369 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 5: have it thro other third quarters? Like, well, I can 370 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: start writing, you know. 371 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: I mean, so. 372 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: The culture change to me is how much do these players, 373 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 5: like Bucky said, when something bad happens, how much do 374 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: they believe that this isn't we are no longer what 375 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: we were. And we'll find that out in week two 376 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: or three or you know, at some point we'll find 377 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: out the answer that question. You don't find it out 378 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: at twelve thirty on May nineteenth. 379 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny, John, because I'm gonna say this. I'm 380 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 6: gonna say, like, I'm really impacted by last year, because 381 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 6: I felt like last year we heard all of the 382 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 6: things and I don't want to live in the past. 383 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: But I think it's really telling because all summer, all 384 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 6: training camp, we heard about the it's the toughest, grittier team. 385 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 6: This is the hardest training camp that we've ever had. 386 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: The team. 387 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 6: Attack other teams, other teams have talked about how hard 388 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 6: the training camp was, et cetera, et cetera. And then 389 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: at the first moment of adversity the Miami game, we 390 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: fall apart and we never put it back together, and 391 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 6: and and so it's not the words, it's the actions. 392 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: And look it, it's unfair depend this on Liam Cohn 393 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 6: and those guys. 394 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 4: To clean up the messes. 395 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: But that's a job. 396 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot, a lot of what we will. 397 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 6: See and observe is how does he prepare this team 398 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 6: for the hard moments that are going to happen. And 399 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, that'll determine if we're able to get 400 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 6: to the other side and be the team that we 401 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 6: all want. 402 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: To see this team be. 403 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, not to belabor the point, but Travis is fumble 404 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 5: Week one. 405 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's what started and. 406 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: Game. 407 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: They still had the lead, but they finished the game. 408 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: My point with that being in the next three, three 409 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: or four weeks Travis got a lot of questions handled 410 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: it well, a lot of blame from people, Oh, if 411 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: he hadn't fumbled, they loose. Well, to me, that was 412 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 5: not it. I mean, yes, Travis can't fumble there, but 413 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: that wasn't That loss wasn't on him. You had a lead. Uh, 414 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: it was indicative what happens this year when that happens, 415 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 5: when there's a fumble inevitably, what does the defense do 416 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: or vice versa, and do. 417 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: They cover the deep over by the safety. 418 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 5: Well or still go in the darn game? Even if 419 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 5: those two events have you don't feel deflated. You'll know 420 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: on the sidelines, Bucket more than I will on the 421 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: press box, probably be a lot more comfortable to you. 422 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, all of it, all of it, all of it 423 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: will will will matter, Like I believe that's the part 424 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 6: that you have to work through. 425 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: You got to build up the mentality, you have to 426 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: navigate through it. I think it helps sometimes. 427 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 6: When you flip the roster like you flip because a 428 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: lot of those guys don't have the residual of what 429 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 6: took place, like the previous. 430 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: Couple of years. 431 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: When it comes to losing, because when you lose at all, 432 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 6: snowballs at all compounds and does those things. But here's 433 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: what I say, and I don't want to continue to 434 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 6: link this team to the Rams, but I will say 435 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 6: we saw the Rams in the last two years start 436 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 6: out one and. 437 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: Four and they've been able to bounce back. 438 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 6: Now, Liam was away, it was with Tampa last year, 439 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 6: but lasst One certainly was there and he certainly understands 440 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 6: that the nature and how the team and the conversations 441 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 6: that took place to help the team get out of it. 442 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: To me, that would be the biggest part of training camp. 443 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 4: When we're looking at training. 444 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: Camp and we're watching practice due way, are the coaches 445 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 6: deliberately creating at first situation so the team can navigate 446 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 6: their way through it and how they get out of 447 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 6: it and can they build confidence with those things? How 448 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: does Trevor Lawrence react have to throwing an interception and 449 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: practice or in preseason, what does the team react to 450 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: We have to teach the team how to work through 451 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: those things and look, ultimately, how will they learn those 452 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 6: lessons in training camp will help them when they get 453 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: to the regular season. 454 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: I think one storyline here that again we won't know 455 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 5: until the season, but you know, I do think there's 456 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: a possibility that the rookies, particularly Travis Hunter, him being 457 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: sort I think he will quickly become one of the 458 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: identity pieces on this team and maybe even come to 459 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: define the team just because of his personality. And I 460 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: sort of wonder, Bucky, you know, this is a kid 461 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: who's used to success. He's not sort of rooted in 462 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: the past here. 463 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: Uh. 464 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: And the fact that Gladstone sort of likes and the 465 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: team is encouraging young players to play, if that could 466 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: help in Hey, you know, we believe we're good. We 467 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 5: don't have a frame of reference for not being good. 468 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: The young kids, the children could lead them, if you will, 469 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: in terms of the spirit, in terms of the makeup 470 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: of the team, I think that it could be a positive. 471 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: I usually and JP's laughing at me because he knows 472 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: I hate rookies. 473 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: But. 474 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 5: They can't lead. They're just kids. They don't know what 475 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: they're doing. But in this case, if you're if you're 476 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 5: leaning into that, as James Gladstone likes to say, if 477 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: you're leaning into the to the youth, they could help 478 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: you change the culture if you have success early. I think, 479 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: and yes I do dislike works, but that look that that. 480 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: Is a big part of the thing. 481 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: That's why when we talk about like in its funny 482 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 6: as Joe in terms of intangibly rich, but that is 483 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 6: a big reason why when you're scouting players and you're 484 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: selecting players, you want them to come from winning programs 485 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 6: because that winning is a big part of their DNA. 486 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: They also understand the sacrifice that's necessary to win. You 487 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: want people who when they step onto the field, winning 488 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 6: is important to them and they're willing to do whatever 489 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: it takes to win. That's the best way and the 490 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 6: quickest way to flip the program. You get a bunch 491 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: of winners together, you give them a solid plan, and 492 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 6: then you let them go do what they've always done, 493 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 6: which is when well. 494 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: The dailies play schedule for the spring. In the summer 495 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: is rolling along coming up May thirty first, Kodak Black 496 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: is in for Tea Pain June second, sticks Kevin Cronin, 497 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Don Felder Old Dominion June sixth. Later in the summer, 498 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: two nights of Shania Twain July twenty ninth and thirtieth. 499 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: They've added a Rob Thomas show August second as well. 500 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Shanaia is fifty nine years old, you can still bring 501 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: the heat, Bucky, that's for sure. 502 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: That's okay like that, I mean, like Mike demographic, I'm 503 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: okay with. 504 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 5: That Big Time Rush rolling in here too. 505 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: J don't leave them out. That's July fifteenth. 506 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 4: That's uh. 507 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: I still give my son major grief for watching Big 508 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: Time Rush when he was a kid. 509 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: Tickets for him if he wants to go to Dailyesplace 510 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: dot com, and I get to show information about the 511 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: spring and summer there. 512 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: We've got a happy hour radio tomorrow at four. 513 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: Jeff Loghman will be in Austin Lane scheduled to come 514 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: in again as well. 515 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: The Train we'll talk some ball. 516 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 4: I like that. That's a nice little nickname, the A train. 517 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: Is that taking somebody else's the A train, aren't they? 518 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, your name starts with an A. 519 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: Running back from Michigan years ago. But we come on, 520 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: we're beyond that. Anthony Thomas I think was his name. 521 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: We can we can snack, we can, we can we 522 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: can snatched that nickname away from. 523 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: What was your nickname, Bucky? 524 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 4: Bucky. Sorry I did disappoint, but yeah, that was the nickname. 525 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: That's that's what it is, what it is. 526 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: Well, let's do it again next week, Fellas. 527 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that man a lot of fun. Like more O 528 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 4: T A s. 529 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: Are you coming down? You should come down? 530 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: I am. I'm coming down next week. I'm watching a 531 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: couple I'm gonna take in. 532 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take in a couple of O t A 533 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 6: practices and be there with my notebook, charting everything, making 534 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 6: sure that I know what's going. 535 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: On, putting the clips and highlight clips on X. 536 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 5: And you can tell me next week definitively whether the 537 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: defense is ahead of the office. 538 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: I can tell you right now. 539 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: I'm reluctant to jump all in on the defense just 540 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 6: because of after last year. I have a PTSD with 541 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: the tack and all the other stuff, so I'm gonna have. 542 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: To take a little more conservative take. 543 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 5: That's fair. 544 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: That's fair. 545 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: It's time to time to dial it back a bit. 546 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, time to do that. Yeah all right, Bucky, Yeah, uh, 547 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: safe travels, but don't see you before next week. 548 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: It should be fun. 549 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: I Gocky Brooks. 550 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: Out of here, John Ozier, I'm J. P. Shattucker. Thanks 551 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: to Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato, and thanks to you for 552 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: watching and listening to Huddle up