WEBVTT - All Without Telling Me

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Family Secrets. Family. The season is not remotely over.

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<v Speaker 1>But this week, this Christmas Day, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>something a little different, a gift for you, and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>a gift for myself as well. Over six years and

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<v Speaker 1>now thirteen seasons of hosting this podcast, I've heard hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of stories of family secrets and the way what we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, what has been hidden from us, acts upon

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<v Speaker 1>us none the less. Long before I discovered the secret

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<v Speaker 1>that had shaped me, there were other secrets. As a child,

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<v Speaker 1>I simply felt them, hungry ghosts in the room. When

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up and became a writer, I began to

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<v Speaker 1>write about these secrets, digging for them in my fiction

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<v Speaker 1>and my nonfiction, trying to get to the essential why

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<v Speaker 1>Why had I been born into such a legacy of secrecy.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety eight, I wrote a personal history piece

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<v Speaker 1>for the New Yorker magazine. I was terrified. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge opportunity for a young writer, but that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason it scared me. It scared me because

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to have to dig without knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>I would come up with, how complex and painful I

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<v Speaker 1>might find it. I'm going to tell you that story,

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<v Speaker 1>which is titled The Secret Wife. I may interrupt myself

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm telling it, annotate it in a way, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I wrote this story about my father and what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was his most profound secret, of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not yet know his biggest secret of all, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that I was not his biological daughter. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go on this adventure together. Here's The Secret Wife. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty three, nine years before I was born, my

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<v Speaker 1>father fell in love with a young woman named Darthy Gribbitz.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a beautiful Orthodox Jewish girl who was at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, startlingly old to still be single in the moneyed,

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<v Speaker 1>religious urban world of my father and his family. My

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<v Speaker 1>father was fresh out of a miserable marriage, stinging from

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<v Speaker 1>a custody battle for his six year old daughter, Susy.

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<v Speaker 1>He married Darcy in the living room of her parents

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<v Speaker 1>modest Brooklyn apartment on April eleventh, nineteen fifty four. She

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<v Speaker 1>wore ivory satin and carried a bouquet of pale flowers

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<v Speaker 1>streaming with ribbons. Her enormous blue green eyes were hidden

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<v Speaker 1>beneath her veil, and a tiara rested on her dark

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<v Speaker 1>wavy hair. My father was handsome in a morning suit

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<v Speaker 1>and silk ascot. His best friend and best man, Danny Shackter,

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<v Speaker 1>stood behind him. The rabbi placed a glass wrapped in

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<v Speaker 1>a cloth napkin on the floor, and my father raised

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<v Speaker 1>his foot to perform the ritual that ends every Jewish wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>He stamped hard and smashed the glass. The guests shouted

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<v Speaker 1>mazeltov and applauded as he and Dorothy kissed. My father

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<v Speaker 1>was beginning his marriage with a secret that only a

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<v Speaker 1>few people shared. At the end of the evening, after

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<v Speaker 1>the dancing, cigars and toasts, when he and Dorothy ran

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<v Speaker 1>laughing out of the building and into the brand new

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<v Speaker 1>oldmobile coup her father had given them as a wedding gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy was bundled up in her sealskin coat and jaunty hat.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of black netting drifted over her pretty eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked the way any bride might, embarking on a

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<v Speaker 1>life with plans and expectations. Dorothy was my father's second wife,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother was his third. I was seventeen before I

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<v Speaker 1>ever knew Dorothy had existed. My half sister Susy let

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<v Speaker 1>it slip one day once when Dad Dorothy and I

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<v Speaker 1>were upstate. She began and I interrupted her, Who's Dorothy.

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<v Speaker 1>The few details I learned that day of this marriage

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<v Speaker 1>of my father's, a marriage so painful he never spoke

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<v Speaker 1>of it, were all I knew for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>But still it made deep emotional sense to me. My

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<v Speaker 1>father had been missing for most of my childhood. He

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<v Speaker 1>had retreated behind a wall of pills and prayer, occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>playing ball with him in the back yard on a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful summer morning, I would catch a glimpse of the

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<v Speaker 1>young man he must once have been, a deep belly laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>a crushing hug, a sudden sparkle in his eyes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to reach out and hold on to

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<v Speaker 1>him and to make things better for him, without ever

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what had gone wrong. In a photograph snapped seconds

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<v Speaker 1>before I was married last year, I am standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to my husband to be under a canopy draped with

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<v Speaker 1>my late father's ivory and white striped talis. In front

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<v Speaker 1>of us, a rabbi recites a blessing. My heart is racing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this isn't a case of premarital jitters. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no second thoughts, no doubts about the man I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to marry. Before we leave for Paris, I call

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<v Speaker 1>my doctor and ask for a prescription for tranquilizers. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never taken pills before. Pills make me think of

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<v Speaker 1>my father. He was addicted to valium, perkidin and emperin

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<v Speaker 1>for most of his life. I have a childhood memory

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<v Speaker 1>of him sitting at the kitchen table in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a lazy Susan filled with prescription bottles, checking his pulse,

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<v Speaker 1>two fingers pressed against the side of his neck, his

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<v Speaker 1>face contorted with fear. I spend my honeymoon certain that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to die. I feel this not in an

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<v Speaker 1>abstract intellectual way, but in my bones, and I take

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<v Speaker 1>the first tranquilizer of my life in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane home. I have been married three times,

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<v Speaker 1>once at nineteen, then at twenty eight, and now for

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<v Speaker 1>the third time at thirty five. My first husband was

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<v Speaker 1>a shop owner, a boyish, free spirit, took off on

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<v Speaker 1>buying trips for months at a time. I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>unprepared for marriage or solitude. I threw dinner parties, cooked

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<v Speaker 1>the one dish I knew, and pretended to be a

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<v Speaker 1>grown up. Less than a year after the wedding I left.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think either of us was surprised, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was now a divorcee at twenty and ashamed of it.

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<v Speaker 1>My second husband was an investment banker. He was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the man I'd been brought up to marry, Jewish stable,

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<v Speaker 1>financially secure, with a life planned down to the last millisecond.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt numb. I was giving up at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty eight. The marriages had just this in common.

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<v Speaker 1>They marked the only times in my life when I

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<v Speaker 1>had been governed by severe, quippling anxiety. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I met Michael, I knew I was going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life with him. The insanity of

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<v Speaker 1>those earlier alliances became even starker when, for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I realized what love actually felt like. Yet the

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<v Speaker 1>panic persisted. Why did I equate being a wife with

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<v Speaker 1>being destroyed? My father's first wedding to Susie's mother had

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<v Speaker 1>been a gala, candlelit affair in the grand ball room

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<v Speaker 1>of the Waldorf Astoria, marking the union of two powerful

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<v Speaker 1>Orthodox clans. Elaine Brodie was from a textile and real

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<v Speaker 1>estate dynasty whose properties included the Essex House and the

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Avenue hotel. Her great grandfather had been the chief

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<v Speaker 1>Orthodox rabbi of New York. My father never even proposed

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<v Speaker 1>to Elaine, his parents proposed to hers. After the wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>he began to work at his father's silk mill in Blackstone, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and would travel there for two weeks of each month.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather was a self made millionaire, and my father

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<v Speaker 1>was firmly under his control. He didn't even receive a salary.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever he needed in the way of money he had

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<v Speaker 1>to petition for. When Susy was a toddler. My father

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<v Speaker 1>and Elaine moved into an apartment on Park Avenue, but

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<v Speaker 1>Elaine never accepted the role of traditional Jewish wife. She

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<v Speaker 1>had been a serious pianist before getting married and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to perform and even perhaps pursue a doctorate.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine years into their marriage, my father returned home from

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Blackstone to find the apartment empty. His

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<v Speaker 1>wife and child were gone, the furniture was gone. Only

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<v Speaker 1>his clothes remained, folded neatly on the top shelves of

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<v Speaker 1>the closets. Divorce was unheard of in their circle, a

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<v Speaker 1>rarefied community of Eastern European Jews who had brought their

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<v Speaker 1>old world values with them to America. Everyone knew something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Elaine had always been too ambitious for her

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<v Speaker 1>own good. People gossiped over ice cream sodas at shrafts

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<v Speaker 1>or lunches at the Tiptoe Inn on Broadway in eighty

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<v Speaker 1>seventh Street. She had left my father without even a

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<v Speaker 1>bed to sleep in, and then there was talk that

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<v Speaker 1>she had been having an affair with Susie's pediatrician. My

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<v Speaker 1>father first met Dorothy Gribbets at the Brunswick Hotel in Lakewood,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. Since his separation, he'd been trying to meet

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<v Speaker 1>eligible Orthodox women, going to Kosher resorts like Grossinger's or

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<v Speaker 1>the Concord in the Catskills, or the Brunswick, where Darthy

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<v Speaker 1>was staying with her parents. She was devout educated, with

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<v Speaker 1>a degree from Cornell and a master's from Columbia, and warm.

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<v Speaker 1>She was kind to Susie. Orthodox Jews in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifties weren't as strictly observant as they've since become, and

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<v Speaker 1>my father and Darthy had a courtship typical of its time.

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<v Speaker 1>She saved the orchids he sent her each week and

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<v Speaker 1>pinned them to her bedroom wall. On their Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>dates after Shabus, they'd stop into a cocktail lounge for

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba libres. They'd go ballroom dancing at the Plaza or

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<v Speaker 1>the pier. For a nice kosher dinner, they'd go to

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<v Speaker 1>Lugie Siegal's on thirty eighth Street. My father presented Drothy

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<v Speaker 1>with an emerald cut diamond engagement ring, and this time

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<v Speaker 1>he proposed himself. The summer before she met my father,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy had a cough she couldn't shake. Her doctor told

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<v Speaker 1>her it was whooping cough, and he hospitalized her briefly.

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<v Speaker 1>While Dorothy was having tea at the water off Astoria

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<v Speaker 1>the winter before her wedding, my father's younger sister surely

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<v Speaker 1>noticed her carefully examining her cup before taking a sip.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy explained that she had caught a virus in Nantucket

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<v Speaker 1>the summer before, and she believed it was from drinking

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<v Speaker 1>tea out of a cracked cup. My father's family became

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<v Speaker 1>concerned Dorothy would grow suddenly pale, and unnaturally dark circles

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<v Speaker 1>would appear under her eyes. On the advice of his parents,

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<v Speaker 1>my father called Dorothy's internest. The doctor assured him that

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy was fine, but a distant cousin of my father's,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an intern at the same hospital, had interpreted

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy's pattern of symptoms and he didn't think she was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He stole a peek at her medical records and saw

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<v Speaker 1>a page after page of scrawled blood test results. She

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<v Speaker 1>had hotkins lymphoma at the time, a uniformly fatal illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Once diagnosed, most patients could be expected to live about

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Not knowing what to do with this information,

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<v Speaker 1>the cousin called my father's best friend, Danny, and told

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<v Speaker 1>him what he had learned. Danny was married to the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter of the renowned Rabbi Joseph h Lukstein, and he

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<v Speaker 1>immediately went to his father in law for advice. The

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<v Speaker 1>rabbi was emphatic Danny had to tell my father what

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<v Speaker 1>he knew. The wedding was two weeks away. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny went to see my father, who was camping out

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<v Speaker 1>in his parents study, A black and gold book lined

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<v Speaker 1>room twenty seven floors above Central Park West. Oil paintings

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<v Speaker 1>of the Shapiro ancestors, the men with white double beards

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<v Speaker 1>and black skull caps hung on the walls. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>broke the news to him Dorothy was dying. She didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the doctors and her father knew the truth, and

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<v Speaker 1>a decision had been made to protect her. Danny advised

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<v Speaker 1>him not to marry Dorothy, for the sake of his future,

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<v Speaker 1>his reputation was already tarnished as a divorced Orthodox Man

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty four, and for the sake of his

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<v Speaker 1>six year old, who had already lost enough. The morning

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<v Speaker 1>after Danny's visit, my father took a checker cab to

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn to see Dorothy's father. Louis Gribbitts, was a short,

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<v Speaker 1>wiry man, a respected attorney who had written a book

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<v Speaker 1>about Mayor Jimmy Walker and made an unsuccessful run for

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<v Speaker 1>city council. He had studied for the Rabbinet. He would

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<v Speaker 1>have known that TAMA generally prohibits telling a terminally ill

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<v Speaker 1>patient the truth about her condition. Dorothy was the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>his three children. Eleven years earlier, the youngest, a son

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<v Speaker 1>named Stanley, had died at the age of seven of

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<v Speaker 1>rheumatic fever. Louis, in his living room high above Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Army Plaza that night, explained to my father that he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't told him because he wanted his daughter to know

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<v Speaker 1>happiness in the last months of her life. My father

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<v Speaker 1>postponed his wedding to Darthy for ten days. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a boil on his stomach, and he checked into Beth

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<v Speaker 1>Israel Hospital on Friday morning to have it removed and

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<v Speaker 1>to buy time. He didn't get in touch with Drothy

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<v Speaker 1>to let her know, and once it was sundown on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sabbath, he wouldn't be able to call her until

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<v Speaker 1>at least sundown on Saturday. In the meantime, his sister Shirley,

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<v Speaker 1>made arrangements to come down on the overnight train from Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>My father was determined that his parents shouldn't be told

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<v Speaker 1>about Darthy's illness. He had been under his father's som

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<v Speaker 1>his whole life. This time he was going to make

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<v Speaker 1>his own decision, but he needed advice. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>through a series of favors and connections, Shirley reached and

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<v Speaker 1>made an appointment to see the Grand labovicher Rebbe Menachim

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<v Speaker 1>Schneerssen in nineteen fifty four, decades before he was thought

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<v Speaker 1>of as the Messiah by many of the Labubbisher community.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbi Schneerson was already a mythic figure. While my family

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<v Speaker 1>were considered Orthodox by most standards, Hasidim would have considered

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<v Speaker 1>them assimilated. The Shapiros and their crowd kept their religious

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<v Speaker 1>practices private. They didn't wear yamakas on the street. They

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<v Speaker 1>ate dairy or fish in regular, non Kosher restaurants. Men

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<v Speaker 1>and women danced together cheek to cheek. Surely and my

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<v Speaker 1>father knew that their parents had met Schneerson and respected him,

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<v Speaker 1>but in turning to him, they were moving outside their

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<v Speaker 1>social circle. Shirley is now seventy four and the grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty I'm actually going to insert there that Shirley

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<v Speaker 1>is now one hundred and three and the great grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>of countless countless great grandchildren and great great grandchildren. Her

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<v Speaker 1>oldest son is an Orthodox rabbi, and most of her

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<v Speaker 1>male grandchildren wear paeous and dark clothes. I haven't visited

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<v Speaker 1>her often. By the time I was born, my father

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<v Speaker 1>had moved, or perhaps was pushed, away from the Orthodox

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<v Speaker 1>fold as Surely and her family became even more deeply

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<v Speaker 1>involved in it. My father had been divorced, then widowed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then had married a woman my mother who wasn't religious.

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<v Speaker 1>With each move he drifted further away from the Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>shoals of his youth and the community that went along

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<v Speaker 1>with them. I'm also going to insert here that after

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<v Speaker 1>writing this piece, I became extremely close with my aunt Shirley,

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<v Speaker 1>and have remained so ever since. That day, I took

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<v Speaker 1>a taxi to Crown Heights. Shirley told me I was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing my suit from Sachs, but I was worried that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look religious enough to meet the Rebbe. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had the taxi stop at a store on De Lancey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran inside and bought a tykel, a black rag.

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<v Speaker 1>I took off my fancy hat and tied the tyrol

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<v Speaker 1>under my chin. When I got to seven seventy Eastern Parkway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was shown straight into the rebby's study. He was

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<v Speaker 1>such a handsome man, with clear, clear eyes and a

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<v Speaker 1>snap brim fedora. His desk was absolutely clean. He sat

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<v Speaker 1>quietly while I told him the story, and when I finished,

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<v Speaker 1>he was quiet for a few minutes, and then he said,

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<v Speaker 1>tell your brother to postpone and postpone. When Shirley got

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<v Speaker 1>back to Beth Israel, prepared to convey the Rabbi's advice

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<v Speaker 1>to my father. There was Dorothy sitting on my father's bed,

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<v Speaker 1>holding his hand, looking incandescent in a coral colored dress

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that set off her dark hair and a black velvet hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Her cheeks were flushed and her eyes shone charl Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine I was trying on my wedding veil when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard Paul was in the hospital. My father was ashen,

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<v Speaker 1>propped up in bed, still weak from his surgery. His

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<v Speaker 1>head was bowed and he was stroking the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>Darthy's wrist, tracing the map of pale blue veins. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>when Dorothy left, Shirley told my father about Niersen's advice.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that to Darthy, he said. I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to add here that surely had the most extraordinary memory,

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<v Speaker 1>her memory of what Dorothy was wearing, her memory of

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<v Speaker 1>verbatim of what the rebby had said. I never would

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to write or publish this piece in

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<v Speaker 1>The New Yorker, which is famous for its fact checking process,

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<v Speaker 1>without having had the incredible generosity of my extraordinary aunt,

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<v Speaker 1>who for whom it was not easy to tell this story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a painful story for her than for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who knew my dad. After the wedding, Dorothy said

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to start a family as soon as she

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<v Speaker 1>felt better. But late that summer she was hospitalized. She

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<v Speaker 1>had a lymph node removed from under her arm, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was treated with mustard gas. When she came home,

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<v Speaker 1>she had weakened considerably. She was no longer able to

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<v Speaker 1>get up in the morning on Shabas to set the table,

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<v Speaker 1>so she did it with Susie's help the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>She never complained, but my father told Susye to be

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<v Speaker 1>especially gentle with Dorothy. She wasn't feeling well. Just before

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<v Speaker 1>the high Holidays, my father and Dorothy moved into an

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<v Speaker 1>apartment at fifty Plaza Street, on the same floor as

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy's parents. It was an apartment big enough for a family,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had views of Grand Army Plaza and the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Museum. For Dorothy, it was an exciting new beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>She began to furnish the apartment lovingly, ordering curtains, sofas,

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<v Speaker 1>rolls of wall to wall carpeting. But for my father,

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.080
<v Speaker 1>being near Dorothy's parents probably meant that he'd have more

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<v Speaker 1>help with Dorothy when the time came on Roshachana morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy and her sister Grace were dressing for shul in

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<v Speaker 1>their old girlhood bedroom. Dorothy was wearing an ivory silk

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<v Speaker 1>blouse with silk covered buttons. Suddenly she sat down on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed, her face white, the black circles appearing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too sick to go to shool, she whispered. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>unbuttoned her bouse with shaking fingers. Grace, will you wear

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<v Speaker 1>this to shool for me? That way, at least part

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<v Speaker 1>of me will be there. As Grace was putting on

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy's blouse, Susy came bouncing into the room in a

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<v Speaker 1>new dress, excited about going to temple, wanting to see

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<v Speaker 1>what was taking so long. Susy, I can't go to shool,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy told her, But will you say a prayer for me?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say a prayer for another person, Susy replied,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pray for yourself. In October, on Sioux Cote,

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday that celebrates the autumn harvest, Dorothy was in

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<v Speaker 1>bed reading a magazine when she began to have trouble breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>My father sent Susy outside to rollerskate. He called an

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<v Speaker 1>ambulance and Dorothy was taken into Manhattan to Memorial Hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather came up from Virginia when he heard the news.

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<v Speaker 1>He stood in the doorway of the waiting room and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at Shirley through his ponsnez. He was an imposing man,

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<v Speaker 1>portly and bald, and most people's first reaction to him

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<v Speaker 1>was fear. What's wrong with Dorothy? He asked. Shirley looked

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<v Speaker 1>up at him, shaking her head slightly. The word cancer

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was never uttered. She's very, very sick, dad. My father

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.159
<v Speaker 1>led me my grandfather into Drothy's room. She was popped

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<v Speaker 1>up in bed and there were tubes and wires everywhere. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>she looked every bit as sick as she was. She

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<v Speaker 1>was drawn and thin, and her eyes were sunken. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say this in front of you, Dad, she

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<v Speaker 1>said to my grandfather, I want to thank Paul for

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<v Speaker 1>giving me the happiest six months of my life. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was all over, my father returned to the apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>stepped over the still rolled up carpeting Dorothy had ordered

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<v Speaker 1>only weeks before, and headed down the long corridor into

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<v Speaker 1>their bedroom. There on the bed was the magazine she

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<v Speaker 1>had been reading just before she was taken to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>It was open to an article about Hopkins lymphoma. After

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<v Speaker 1>the ambulance came and took Dorothy away, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>Dad for two weeks, Susy says, as we sit in

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<v Speaker 1>her East village apart. He called me every night, and

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>every night I'd ask him where he was, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>say where do you think I am? And I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital, And then I'd ask how Darthy was, and

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he'd tell me she was resting. He picked me up

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<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday night, after those two weeks had gone by.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like hell, and he was quieter than usual.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in a taxi going through Central Park on

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<v Speaker 1>our way to Grammy and Grampy's when I asked him

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 1>how Darthy was, and he told me that Darthy had died.

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<v Speaker 1>She had died a week before. They had the funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>buried her sat Shiva, all without telling me. I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to interject here that all these many, many many

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<v Speaker 1>years later, Susie and I have virtually no relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of the reason that we have no

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>relationship is all a thing history, all of this pain,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this unnecessary secrecy, They were very much people

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<v Speaker 1>of their time, and their time was a time in

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<v Speaker 1>which you didn't say the word cancer, and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell children when someone had died, and the children didn't

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>come to the funeral and were never able to have

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>any closure and carry that pain with them throughout their

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<v Speaker 1>entire lives. And reading this all these years later, reading

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<v Speaker 1>this out loud for all of you, is a very

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<v Speaker 1>emotional experience for me, and a very moving one. My

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<v Speaker 1>father was an extraordinary man, extraordinarily brave and kind, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to keep reading. My parents kept secrets,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothy was only one of them, to which I really

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<v Speaker 1>need to interject here, no shit, sorry. My mother's first marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>an aunt's nervous breakdown, an uncle's attempted suicide, all were

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>kept secret. On the surface, everything seemed perfect. But why

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was my father so unhappy all the time? Why did

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<v Speaker 1>my mother seem so constantly on edge? Here I will

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<v Speaker 1>also interdict, I didn't have all the information, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the information I did have, and everything that I wrote

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in this piece was in fact completely true, it just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the whole truth. I didn't know all the secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the friction between my parents had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with my father's strict religious beliefs. My mother was fun

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>loving and glamorous, the head of her own small advertising agency.

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<v Speaker 1>When she met my father. She had no idea that

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<v Speaker 1>becoming Orthodox meant more than keeping a kosher home and

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<v Speaker 1>going to school on holidays. Orthodoxy was its own universe,

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<v Speaker 1>a universe as suspicious of her as she was of it.

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<v Speaker 1>As the years went by, we rarely saw my father's family,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we did, they seemed foreign to me, with

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<v Speaker 1>their yamukas and thick glasses. They were pale and wan

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with something called yeshiva pallor. On our way home from visiting,

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>my mother would make fun of them, and my father

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>would become even quieter than usual. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a house full of fear. We were protected by three

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of alarm systems, pads on the floors under

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<v Speaker 1>the rugs, a motion detector, and panic buttons that could

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<v Speaker 1>be pressed in an emergency. I wasn't allowed to run

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>barefoot on the lawn. I was slathered with sunlation year round.

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<v Speaker 1>If a bee buzzed near me, my mother would swoop

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<v Speaker 1>down and rush me into the house. I never had

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<v Speaker 1>chicken pox, measles or mump, any of the childhood diseases.

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't around children enough to have them, but the

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<v Speaker 1>real dangers were inside our house. What I remember is

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the silence. Most of the time, it was as quiet

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>as a wax museum, and my parents spoke to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in front of me, with brittle politeness. And

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<v Speaker 1>then every once in a while there would be the

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<v Speaker 1>booming sound of my father's voice, or the loud slam

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<v Speaker 1>of the back door as my mother went outside to

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<v Speaker 1>sit on the cold aluminum of the milk can and

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>smoke a cigarette. These fights didn't seem to have beginnings

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or ends, but I knew my parents would never divorce.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have articulated it back then, but my parents

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be holding their fragile world together with some

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of tacit agreement that their histories and secrets, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole of their past lives, could be kept from each

0:26:53.680 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>other and from me. Again, extraordinary that I understand stood

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>on some level. This speaks to what listeners of this

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>podcast know. I talk about a lot in various episodes

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>about the unsought known right here buried in my own

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>words before I ever knew that my dad wasn't my

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>biological father, that my parents had used a sperm donor,

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that they had never spoken a word of their fertility

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>journey or their use of donor sperm, or the fact

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't my biological father. Ever again, I'll never know,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but I believe they never spoke of it to each other,

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm certain that they never spoke of it to anyone,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>most definitely not to me. So how's that for a

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>tacit agreement. Once I knew about Drothy, from time to

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>time I would ask my mother about her. They tricked

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>your father into marrying her. She'd say, it was a

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.239
<v Speaker 1>terrible thing they did. From my mother, it was as

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>if my father's second wife had barely existed. But Darthy

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>was very real for my father. The one time I

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>asked him about her, I glimpsed pain in his eyes

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>so intense that I never asked again. Grace Gribbet's Glasser,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Darthy's younger sister, wasn't easy for me to track down.

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>She's married to I Leo Glasser, the federal judge who

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>presided over the John Gotti trial, and they lead a

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>quiet private life in a prosperous protected section of Rockaway

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Park facing the ocean. But when I visited her, almost

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a year into my new marriage, she seemed entirely unfazed

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that her late sister's husband's daughter would have come looking

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>for her. Hello, dear, she said, as if she had

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>been expecting me. I recognized her face from wedding photos,

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a wide eyed young woman holding her sister's bouquet. She's

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<v Speaker 1>now sixty nine with silver hair. You look like your father,

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>she said, ushering me in. It was a few days

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<v Speaker 1>before pooram. Between us on her kitchen table was a

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<v Speaker 1>shoe box full of photographs of Darthy. Grace was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five when Drothy died. She has four children and nine grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>Her oldest daughter is named Drothy. Together we shuffled through

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the photographs. Dorothy on a picnic blanket with one boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>on the beach with another, Dorothy and my father at

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<v Speaker 1>their wedding. Grace handed me a photo of my father

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<v Speaker 1>in a navy blue suit, white shirt and silver tie,

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<v Speaker 1>his hand resting on the back of a chair as

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>he turned to the camera, laughing. I had never seen

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<v Speaker 1>this expression of pure, unadulterated joy on my father's face.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to meet your father for lunch every once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, Grace said, I remember he called me

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<v Speaker 1>when you were getting married. When was that? I knew

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<v Speaker 1>she was referring to my first marriage, the one for

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<v Speaker 1>which my father was still alive. He was worried, continued,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't happy about it at all. I wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>my mother knew that my father had stayed in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with Drothy's sister. I doubt it. Now I follow her

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<v Speaker 1>down a hall and enter her bedroom. The life she has,

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<v Speaker 1>the children, the grandchildren, the hamentashen in the oven. That

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>was the life my father was supposed to have had

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<v Speaker 1>with Drothy. Darcy and my father would have lived in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>or on Central Park West, or on the beach at

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<v Speaker 1>Rockaway Park. They would have been active in their local synagogue,

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<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of children, and lived an observant life.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Grace opened a walk in closet, and I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>scrape and rattle at hangers. She emerged from the closet

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a blouse. It was one's ivory silk with ivory

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>silk covered buttons. Now it was yellow and stained and

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<v Speaker 1>much too big for her small frame. I've worn it

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<v Speaker 1>to shool every Roshashana for forty four years. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>Her voice was sweet and sorrowful. It's so stained now

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even take off my jacket. I wish my

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>sister were here to meet you, she says. But if

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>she were here, you wouldn't be Is that ever true?

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<v Speaker 1>After Dorothy died, my father looked for a new apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a building going up on East ninth Street,

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<v Speaker 1>near Broadway, and he went with his sister to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sitting in the rental office when an impeccably dressed,

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>dark haired woman in her early thirties walked in the door.

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Shirley noticed that she wasn't wearing a wedding ring and

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>nudged my father. A few months later, after my father

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<v Speaker 1>had moved into that building, he saw the dark haired

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>woman on the street. It was Shabus and she was

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a hammer. Modern girl that she was on her

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>way home to install bookcases. Obviously, she wasn't observant a

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>hammer on Shabus, but he was pretty sure she was Jewish.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>They stopped and chatted and he caught her first name, Irene.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew she lived on the block, and the next

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>day he spent his morning pouring through the Manhattan phone

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>book looking for Irenees on East ninth Street. During my

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>parents courtship, my father continued to spend weekends at Grossinger's

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and the Concord in search of an Orthodox woman. It

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was unheard of to marry outside Orthodoxy. It was almost

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like marrying out of the faith. But on September fourth,

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty seven, he and Irene were married at Young

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Israel on Sixteenth Street. A photograph of my parents at

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>their wedding hangs over the desk where I write. They

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>are walking up the aisle and my mother is smiling triumphantly.

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<v Speaker 1>My father's hand is bawled into a fist. Within a year,

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>he had entered his back and become addicted to painkillers

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and tranquilizers. For all the years of my childhood, my

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>father walked gingerly, as if constantly aware that collapse was possible,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and as the tension in our home grew, he became

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>quieter and quieter. Sometimes I would catch his eye to

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>wink at him, to let him know I understood, But

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand, and he continued sliding away. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is the end of the story that I wrote. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight. It was the year twenty sixteen before

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I learned what my parents had gone through in those

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>early years of their marriage, their attempt time and time

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>again to have a child, to create a family together,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately what drew them to the very unusual and

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>completely secretive decision to use a sperm donor to create

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a family, which was something that in the early nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened. It happened plenty, but it was illegal, It

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>was considered immoral, It was frowned upon and forbidden by

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>every religion. I could have been taken away from my

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>father legally, I would have been considered not his child.

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>He knew all that, and he loved me with every

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>cell in his being. I know that, and he was

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful father in so many ways. But he and

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>my mother harbored this tremendous secret on top of all

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of those other secrets. Their reasons for shivering over me

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>are now reasons that I understand so much better. His depression,

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>his sorrow, the compounding of all of those secrets in

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>his life life must really have been too much for

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>him to bear. And it's one of the great honors

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of my life as an artist, as a writer, as

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a podcaster, to be able to tell his story, to

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>be able to tell my mother's story, to be able

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 1>to in a way honor them by sharing what was

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<v Speaker 1>really a very very difficult life. When I wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>this piece, just reading it to you now aloud, that

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I knew they would never divorce. I did know they

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>would never divorce. I think they couldn't have tolerated divorcing. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if they had divorced, it's possible that my mother could

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>have taken me away from my father. My father was

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>never going to leave her. I don't think that she

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>was ever going to leave him either, And instead, they

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>lived with their secrets, and they lived with their pain

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>until each of them took those secrets to the grave

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>with them. So here I am family, Secrets. Family. On

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<v Speaker 1>this Christmas Day, or wherever this finds you, whatever, you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this. What an extraordinary experience for me to

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>have just come back revisited this story, this story that

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>thrumbs beneath all the other stories that I have learned

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<v Speaker 1>since and that have liberated me from so much that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand