1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen a heart hard to listen to. Try 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: giving this podcast a good two weeks, and I had 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: to cut that short. The formula of choosing the topic 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: and having a one side of argument people on Twitter's 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: tweets gets old. After sixty minutes, the host of self 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: acclaimed feminist and true Steve harvest Style started to attack 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: woman when they brought him to task for something he 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: said while calling woman without check marks on social media 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: and nobodies. As much as I wanted to like this podcast, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: an hour of arguing just wasn't my cup of tea. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: That exerts by asking me on a one star review 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: on iTunes one of my favorite authors, and then I 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: wanted to add this from another exert that I'm reading 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: this book called creative Quest. Okay, who gets to determine 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: when the artist is on track and when an artist 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: is off track? The artist is the track. Hey, welcome 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: to the Blackout Tips podcast. Your host Rod Edkaron, and 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: we are back live on a Sunday doing feedback on Sunday. Now, 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: normally we do this on a Saturday, but we're doing 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: it on a Sunday. It is our self acclaimed feminists 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Rod the Blackout Tips, the host of the podcast Everybody 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Doesn't Like Us always make that mistake, joined by my 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: less important co host to barely even here. Really if 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: we're taking doesn't have a check mark on Twitter, so 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I don't she's really a nobody. If you can't take 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: a joke. Anyway, we're live, Rady do your feedback. This 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: is where we talk about all the things that you 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: had to say about the things we had to say 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: last week plus one more day because we did a 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: live show at the library, Yes, the. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Library, and it was fun. It was a lot of fun. 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: We were surrounded by a bunch of people that came 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: out to support us. It was live. My parents showed up, 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: fans showed up. We got to see some people for 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: a second, third, fourth time. It was really cool, uh, 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: some people for the first time, like, uh, definitely a 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: great time. We recorded the audio so you guys should 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: be able to hear that on the on the feed, 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: so I hope you guys enjoy it. And what I'll 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: do is, if I can remember, I'll try to read 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: your comments for that episode next week too, because I 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: know it's only been up one day. You guys didn't 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of time to talk about that one. Yeah. 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: And also if you want to listen to if you 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: want to actually see it live, go to crowdcast dot io. 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Uh type into black out who tips and you should 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: be able to find it if you want to actually 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: see that show live. 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Right. Uh So the excerpt from creative quest I wanted 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to get to. I thought that was a bar like 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: who determines when an artist is on track or off track? 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: The artist is the track, and I think the way 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: people look at artists is very much like they're whack now, 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: they're good now. I like them now, I don't like 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: them now, as opposed to the idea that the artist, 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: we're just watching the journey. That's it, and that's only 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: that's the only thing you sign up for. 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: You know. 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: It makes me think about the podcast because I always 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: tell people I'm didn't start to show with you in mine, 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not know who you was. I don't wake 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: up every day and think I hope these strangers on 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: the internet agree with me. I wake up every day 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: and think about myself, and I feel like the journey 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: we've been on is one for me of self discovery. 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Not not the opposite way, or I haven't felt like 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm discovering the world so much as trying to discover 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: my place within it. And so a lot of times 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna lead to people not liking It's gonna lead 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: to people, you know, taking a joke about, you know, 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: not having check marks seriously and dedicating their life to 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: leaving a one star review. It's gonna take that, you know, 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: and that's a path that I'm totally fine with. Man, 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: I was were listening or watching the show The Shop 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Lebron James uh was it should be a podcast, should 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: be But yeah, I was watching that show and he 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: wasn't on this episode, but Whoopi Goldberg was in there, 79 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, she was speaking truth to power. 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: I loved it everything she said. I was just like, 81 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: this is why people fuck with Whooby, you know, as 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: much as Woopy as said fucked up shit and made 83 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: mistakes and all this stuff and has views that I, 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: you know, people totally disagree with. She said some shit 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: that was so real, and she was like, look, the 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: only thing you can be as authentic to yourself and 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: people will either like it or don't like it, but 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: you have to like you, So you got to start 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: with where you're at. And if people don't fuck with it, 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: so what like why give them all that power over 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: your life, like trying to fit into these motherfucking groups 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: of folks like you know, And I joke about it, 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: but you know, seriously, I really do like who I 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: am and I want to and I want to be 95 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: able to like who I am, you know in that way. 96 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think on the creative side, feeling that 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: feedback from criticism and stuff is something that you know, 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: it sucks sometimes because sometimes it's completely irrelevant, like someone 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: saying just Steve Harvey and you know, it's just like 100 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: that bounces off of you because it's so it doesn't fit. 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, it's something that might sting, or 102 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: it's something that really gets to you. And learning that 103 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: balance of being like, well that's that's a fair criticism, 104 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: but also I've thought about what I'm putting out to 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: the world, and this is what I want it to be. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that's that I think a lot 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: of people have a hard time achieving. I know, I do, 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I've had to learn how to mitigate that, 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, such as we only read the nice reviews 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: and stuff unless I can make a joke out of it. 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. It was like, don't be too 112 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: hard on yourself. You are the track, you are the journey. 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: You are the person that listens. The person listening is 114 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: listening for where you take them right. 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: And also I think, I think for me, I agree. 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: You have to be comfortable with who you are. You 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: have to live your life for you and not anybody else, 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, so many people 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: have so many varying views on what they think your 120 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: life should be. Be it your immediate family, your brothers, 121 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: your sisters, your mom, your aunts and uncles. A lot 122 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: of them have views on how they think your life 123 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: should go. And this is not including complete strangers like 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: people that you interact with every day. They know your names, 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: a security number, your address, your telephone number. Them people 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: have trajectories on where they think your life should go 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: and how they think. You didn't make the right decision here, 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: you made the wrong step here. Life is full of mistakes, 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: and mistakes are going to be made, but that's part 130 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: of life. You live and you learn from mistakes and 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: errors and things like that. And yeah, you've got to 132 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: get to the point, and sometimes even these loved ones, 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: but you got to say, I actually don't give a 134 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: fuck about what you feel or think about my life. 135 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: And because most people I talked to, quote unquot respect 136 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: your elders and all that shit, that's a very very 137 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: hard place to get to. Well, you got to turn 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: to tell somebody I really don't care what you think 139 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: today and mean it, and and just guess what, let 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: them sit in the let them sit in the feeling 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: of ohce, she don't go fuck about how I feel 142 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: about it? Right, I don't. I absolutely people don't want 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: to deal with that awkwardness of telling us that you 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: love and care about it. I don't want to hear 145 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: what you got to say about my life. Just let 146 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: me live in that. 147 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think, yeah, you're taking it to 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: a different place, but yeah, I think that that applies. 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Is even when it is you know, outside of just creativity, 150 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, just your life. Your life is you creating 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: what you want out of it. And so there's gonna 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: be people that detract from that. There's gonna people with 153 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of judgments and shit. But you know, I 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: think and what I found with Whoopee that it was 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: really affirming, was watching her like full throated at defense 156 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: of like nah this like like I think I just 157 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: sent us something about voting and stuff, and how you know, 158 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: he just didn't he knew people. He didn't say it 159 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: was himself, but he knew people that just didn't feel 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: inspired by the people on the bout ticket and blah 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: blah blah. And she was like, fuck that shit, you know. 162 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: And it was really it was really pertinent because it 163 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: was like, you know, who else is in that room, 164 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams, Stacy Abrams thos know about the voting populace 165 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: and more than about policy and everything than anyone else 166 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: in that fucking room, right, And she was like, listen, 167 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: the one thing I care about in twenty twenty is 168 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: people going to vote correct. She literally said two days ago, 169 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: we have to overwhelm the system with votes, That's what 170 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: she said. But I'm supposed to be prioritized the feelings 171 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: of somebody's just like, you know, I just don't feel 172 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: like it. You don't. Unfortunately, you don't get to center 173 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: everything around your feelings. No, so some shit is like 174 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to feel great about it, but you 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: need to do it. That's why it's called a civic duty, 176 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: not a fucking civic you know. It's it's not like 177 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: a civic treat, you know what I mean. It's not 178 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: a civic birthday present, like, it's a duty, you know. 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: And and so I really appreciated that conversation, and Woobie 180 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: was just holding the room down in a way that 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I love to see. I really 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: want her to have her own podcast where she can cuss, 183 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: because I felt like had the cussing added something extra 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: to it. And she was in full like black like Auntie, 185 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, you know, like if they 186 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: could have just put a space card table right there, 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: she would have just had no business and be reading 188 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: everybody for filth. And I loved it. It was probably one 189 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes of the shop because of her, 190 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: And like I said, that's a person that I really 191 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: have had these moments where I'm like, I don't know 192 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: what the fuck's wrong with would be you know, she 193 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: she gonna have them again. But there was something about 194 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: her being like, at least I'm being authentic about the ship. 195 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Well I had to be like I can respect that, 196 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: and especially when her talking about like, you can't be 197 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: to please all the people on Twitter. You can't be 198 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: trying to please all the people fuck them, Like literally, 199 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: they don't know you, they don't invest in you, and 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: they don't have the answers either, and a lot of 201 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: times they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, goddamn, there it is. 203 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Put that on the T shirt. Let me buy twelve, 204 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: you know. 205 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: Right, Because her thing is, you have people that are 206 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: talking about things and sometimes they're not even educated in 207 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: these areas, but they know the answer, And like she said, 208 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: they convince you that they know the answers when they 209 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: don't bother fucking know the answers either. 210 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't therefore it that's the answer, and it's 211 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: very simple. We should all do it. But they really 212 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know, you know. And but back to the original quote, 213 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: the artist is attract and that's what it reminds me of. 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: These are people that are essentially tuning in to watch 215 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: you and they're giving their opinion every step of the way, 216 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: but they don't fucking know, you know, like this is 217 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: just their opinion, and it's like the only responsibility you 218 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: have is to create for yourself and then some people 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: will like it, some people won't. So I just thought 220 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: that was really dope because I do have this weird 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: abstract theory that I already know most people won't agree with. 222 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't really talk about it or flooded out there 223 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: that often, but I don't believe that extremely talented people 224 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: make like whack shit. 225 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Now. 226 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I know that that's a very like. I know that's 227 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: not a popular because you know it's people like, well, well, 228 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Kanye y, this was whack or whatever. You know, I'm not. 229 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't want to argue with people about it. 230 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: It's there. It's just my personal belief system. But I 231 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: think people that are really talented they just make art 232 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: that you might not understand. But I don't think they 233 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: lose all the genius and shit that you've been attributing 234 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: to them just suddenly it's like and now they're not 235 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: a genius anymore, right, Like, No, they just did something 236 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: that maybe you need a very specific mind frame to 237 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: understand it, you know, to go back to the well 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: with Kanye West, I know, the album for for a 239 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of people was the what was that album called 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the one where he did auto tune the whole time. 241 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: It's sane, And I remember the reception to that was 242 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: at first it was like, fuck, this Ship is not 243 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: a rap album? Why this Ship is so sad? I 244 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: don't like this, you know? And Heartbreak? Yeah, I remember that, 245 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: and I remember listening to it at first and being like, Hm, 246 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't really like this shit? What is this shit? 247 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: What is kindy of ain't thinking? This isn't good? This 248 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: isn't even rap, Like what, like what the fuck? There's 249 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: like one rap song on the whole goddamn album, like 250 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: this is crazy you thank you Andre three thousand nigga 251 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then I remember, Uh, it might 252 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: have been when I lost my job or something, but 253 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: I remember I went through a time where I was 254 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, sad, and I listened to that 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: album and it just it just communicated with me in 256 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: a way that I had never really experienced before. 257 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: He was singing here that that was a form of 258 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: his pain. And sometimes when it comes to certain things, 259 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: people don't want to admit. Sometimes people artists make shit 260 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: and you just ain't the mood, like if you're a 261 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: happy person you're going through and they put out some 262 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: sad shit, like fuck that shit. That's because you might 263 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: not be able to relate to it. Or either they 264 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: put some inspiring shit you don't feel inspired by it. That's, 265 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, that's because you're just not in that spot. 266 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: Because the thing about music, music has a mood, and 267 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: sometimes music might not hit you right when it first 268 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: come out. Sometimes it takes a while before you realize that, 269 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: oh this shit is banging or slamming. I wasn't in 270 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: the right friend of my mind like all of like 271 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: I realized a lot of times, which is human nature. 272 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: People take the way that they feel and they want 273 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: the artists to make shit directly towards them. But that's 274 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: not the artist's job. The artist job is to make art. 275 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: The artist is the track, that's the thing. So yeah, man, 276 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: it really made me think about that, you know, in general, 277 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: and so combined with earlier in this week, which is 278 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: really just just what do you call it for tourists timing. 279 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: But when I was when read that thing, you it 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: was like you got to learn how to throw out 281 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: their irrelevant reviews and the irrelevant criticism that's not really critical, 282 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: it's not really constructive, it's not really real and how 283 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: everyone feels like that have to review everything and everyone 284 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: has access to everyone and every time. That's the reason 285 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to read that one star reviews because I 286 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: was just thinking, like, damn, look at the time, and 287 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: it's like, life really be setting you up sometimes for 288 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: like to be prepared for some shit that's about to happen, 289 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: so you can be like, oh, yeah, yeah, I saw 290 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: this coming from a mile away, you know. 291 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: So anyway, and before we move on going back to 292 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: the shop, one thing about Whoopy, regardless of if you 293 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: agree or disagree or whatever however you feel about Whoopy, 294 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, she is a black woman. 295 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: And also something that she said it was profound. It 296 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: actually stuck with me. She was like, y'all can't be 297 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: shitting on the peoples who showed us y'all standing on 298 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people have a tendency to do that, 299 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: particularly when you're young. Most young people have a tendency 300 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: to do that because they always assumed that it starts 301 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: with them, when no, there are other people out there 302 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: that have done things and voted and whatn't inspired and 303 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: all that shit. But they did it because it was 304 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: a goddamn right thing to do. They didn't do it 305 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: because I don't feel like it. Oh no, They was like, 306 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: I consider the future. I got to think about the future, 307 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: my children, my grandchildren, my nieces, my nephews, my cousins. 308 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: You constantly have to think about the next generation. And 309 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are so fucking self 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: centered that they do not consider the next generation. What 311 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: happens when I don't vote, What happens when I don't 312 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: voice my opinion, what happens when I don't fight back, 313 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: what happens when people's rights are stripped away? What happens 314 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: when I'm gone? What is my legacy going to be? 315 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Because the thing is the legacy that we live in now. 316 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's gonna be, y'all. Because we 317 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: can sit back and we can talk about the past 318 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: because it happened, and we actually can read about it 319 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: and learn about it. But what happens when we get 320 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: to the point where people erase that shit, literally erase 321 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: that shit and and change it into something that's not true, 322 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: and you have another generation of people. 323 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: That don't even know who the. 324 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: Fuck fault, what happened or anything like that. I mean, 325 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: it's people in that spot now don't get me wrong, 326 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: but it gonna be even worse as the time goes 327 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: on and as people try to erase the past and 328 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: erase the people that were there before you enact like 329 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: these people never fucking existed. 330 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know. I wasn't trying to turn 331 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: it into the whole like thing, but I do feel 332 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: like what she said about that is just generational and 333 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: Hassamonage and her they represented the in the generational conflict 334 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: that we see all the time, which is the younger 335 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: generation always thinks, well, the old generation did nothing but 336 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: make mistakes, and that's why we inherited what we have, 337 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: and they never think about the progress that was made 338 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: by those generations because they take it for granted. That's 339 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: really what it's almost like, that's what the job is. 340 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: You do your best, and then the next generation texted 341 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: for granted, and this will happen in our generation as well, 342 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: and it happened to the generation after us. But you're 343 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: only living the time you're here, and so they don't. 344 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: They haven't thought about it. So im notche hasn't really 345 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: contextualized it. And the only age can give you that 346 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: like when he's fifty, when he's sixty, he'll be looking like, damn, 347 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: we weren't all bad. We tried, we thought we did things. 348 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: So you know, I think anyway, I think people should 349 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: tune into that episode of the Shop. I thought it 350 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: was really good, and I thought Whoopee was really good. 351 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: And I think the the imagery that can't be lost 352 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: on me is that when the politics came up, you're 353 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: sitting in a room where the two people that were 354 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: the most vocal and knowledgeable and thoughtful, in my opinion, 355 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: were black women and that and I thought that that 356 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: was interesting in a room where you have, you know, 357 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: white women. I think they were both like lesbian. Possibly 358 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Superbirds. Don't mean not let me 359 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: not speculate, but I know at least uh Megan rappingo 360 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: is and then matter of fact, I think Superbird said 361 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: she was in the interview. So anyway, but you're sitting there, 362 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: you got black men in there, you got all these people. 363 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: But when it came to that stuff, it was it 364 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: was okay, super Bird is married to Megan Rapping, No, 365 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: there you go. So when it came but when it 366 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: came to like politics and stuff just in general voting 367 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: and stuff like Stacey Abrams and Whippery whoopee held it 368 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: down in a way that I just don't think can 369 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: be dismissed. And like I said, you don't have to agree. 370 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I saw people trying to do the row eyes and shit, 371 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: but I think she was just one hundred percent right 372 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: about Twitter and how you really can't listen or live 373 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: for these motherfuckers. And you know, it's definitely a lesson 374 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I took to heart because I was like, yo, I 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: felt that pressure before, like oh, well, what are these 376 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: motherfuckers don't like what I say? Or but you know, 377 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: who gives a fun I'm doing my best and that's 378 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: the only obligation I have, and that obligation is not 379 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: to them. That's to myself to do my best. That's 380 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: to my family to do my best. That's to you 381 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: to do my best. I don't like. At the end 382 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: of the day, that's all I owe anybody. So all right, 383 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: let's get into the review show. Okay, we have a 384 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to uh to cover here. It's been 385 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: an extra day of feedback, so we'll try to get 386 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: to all of it. First things first, though, some of 387 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: you guys gave us money. You go to the blackoutils 388 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: dot com. Look on the right hand side of the page. 389 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: You can donate to the show. 390 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: We appreciate that depression. 391 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: Today's a new day, New Day, New Monday. Uh Nicola C. 392 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 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Terror W, Lenneka m 404 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Alexander M. No relation, Dustry J. Wast B's Vossouver, Jasmine 405 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: A and Eric Oh Eric m attitude check Michael Prike, 406 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, Michael I, Michael Irvin aka the Playmaker. Is 407 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: that everybody else this state that's not loving? 408 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 409 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan W. Deborah Oh, johnnine R. Rachel H. And Oh 410 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: my aid, our girl, Shannon Shannon B. Stephan H. Thank 411 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: you very much. Lagman F Mister Span of the Span 412 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: Report Podcast, Corey B. Darwin M, Jonathan H. Jeff muh 413 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Andy S Brian B. J Full, What's up? J Full, 414 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Michael W. Early, Daisy Photography, Marvin B. Yes, Marvin B. 415 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Mick Cole F Solana S. Chrishelle M. Nerves and Luxture 416 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: those luxurious ass nerds Candice H. Asia D Justin J. 417 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: And now that's everybody. Thank you so much for your. 418 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: Child. 419 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Peace for me. Now can you just smile. 420 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: For me? 421 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: And the people say, all right, all right, let's get 422 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: into five views. You know the positive ones that people 423 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: left that one, the ones that count, the one we count. 424 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, you know the funniest thing about that other 425 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: views that I remember that interaction on Twitter and it 426 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: was a joke, but I love to know that it 427 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: did hurt their feelings, Like I don't know why the 428 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: pity and me up and was like, who that really 429 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: hurt your feelings? That joke. It's like the reward for 430 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: people not being able to take the punishment for people 431 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: not being able to take a joke is that they 432 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: get offended by the joke, and it's like, well that's 433 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: kind of the I'll take that as well. If you 434 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: can't laugh at yourself, then at least let me laugh 435 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: at you. Uh So we got five star reviews, two 436 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: of them since the last time we did a feedback show, 437 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: which because they take like a week off. So I 438 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: think I got this right because I think, all right, cool, 439 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: I just yeah, yeah, okay, So I think the last 440 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: one we did was beautiful Minds. So let's go to 441 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, Hey y'all, Am i Accoon for liking the 442 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson Show. It's really, it's really, I guess good. 443 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: And am my uncle Thomas for jamin to Justin Bieber, yummy, 444 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: please help you get his invite to the cookout again. 445 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I love us for real. This is by Fine Apple. Yeah, 446 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: I agree with cam. Best podcast in the game. I've 447 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: been listening to Ryd and Karen ever since an ex 448 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend turned me on to them nearly two years ago. 449 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Shout out to ex girlfriend, got out my ex girlfriend. 450 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: Since then, the show has been a source of good fun, 451 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: any last and serious food for thought. I'm sorry that 452 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: took me so long to write a review, but I'm 453 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: grateful for everything that the show represents. Thanks so much 454 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: for everything that you do. Thank you, thank you well, 455 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, listen for a show that gives you a 456 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: one sided argument on Twitter tweets redundant that gets all. 457 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: After sixty minutes, I feel like we're doing okay, you know. 458 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: I feel like all the people showed up and had 459 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: a good time yesterday in our faces, surrounded us with 460 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: real love, you know. I feel like all these positive 461 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: reviews got to be coming from somewhere somewhere, you know. 462 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I guess I'm supposed to be 463 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: doubting myself and feel and like, h like, I ain't shit, 464 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm a fake ass feminist, But I don't know. 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: It's working pretty well. I feel pretty good. I saw. 466 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: I never proclaimed myself to be a feminist. Okay, I 467 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: am a man inist. Everybody knows this. Remember when they 468 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: tried to start that the men in this movement, and 469 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: people was like, the fuck is this the men in this? 470 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: I was like, shouldn't it be masculins? I think that's all? 471 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: I was like, why why did how did y'all fuck 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: that went up so easily? 473 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: Men are terrible with names that that and the name 474 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: and of cologne. 475 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not We're not good at anything. 476 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: I know you guys are not y'all nasty. After after action, 477 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: she'd be like, the fuck is this you mean? De Yodaan, 478 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: not kaloon diodring, Yes, deoderan. 479 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: The Arctic winter force push? 480 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, every after actions. 481 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: Desert storm, try speed stick desert storm. All right, let's 482 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: get to the comments on the website. Uh, twenty thirty 483 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: three was our last feedback episode on the two twenty fifth. 484 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh wait, so maybe I hadn't read that review. Shit. Okay, 485 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: so wait, I got one more review to read. I think, 486 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I think let me let me check the date. I 487 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: might have fucked up, y'all. Anyway, twenty thirty three happened 488 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: upon some sex. 489 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I remember this. I remember that because we named 490 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the show after that. 491 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was what know what I'm saying. 492 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: That was the last feedback episode. Okay, I'll get to 493 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: the I'll get to the review. In the second I 494 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: got like anonymous says, laugh my ass off happened upon 495 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: from sex? Does sound suspect now that I've heard it 496 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: out loud. Oh and that was an issue on the 497 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: website where for some reason they make everyone's comments anonymous. 498 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: I fixed it, but god, it's just like you do 499 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: an update on WordPress, and it just was like, yeah, 500 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: so this is happening, and all we got like why 501 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: won't nobody log into the site? And then I would 502 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: and fixed it. It was like, what the fuck? It 503 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't even let me post a comment without being anonymous, 504 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: and I on the goddamn sorry anyway, So I think 505 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: this is Brooklyn shoe bag lab my ass off. Having 506 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: upon some sex does sound suspect now that I've heard 507 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: it out loud. I mean, I am out at the 508 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: gro If I'm out at the grocery store and I 509 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: hit it off with a tall man getting something off 510 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: the top show for me, then sex could be consentially 511 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: in our future. But I'm not out looking for a 512 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: relationship as usual. You educate and entertain me. I can 513 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: understand that. You know, I mean we you know, we're 514 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: just joking about having a plans of sex. Karen. I 515 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: don't follow you on Facebook, but I still would like 516 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: to donate money on your mom's behalf. Is that another 517 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: place where the link is located like on Twitter? 518 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I can't. I'll give it to Roger he just 519 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: can put the national link in the post. 520 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, just let me get that afterwards 521 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: and I'll put it in the show notes. 522 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: So for those of you that did want to donate 523 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: but don't follow me on Facebook, Roger can put it 524 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: in the show notes so that you can guys can 525 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: directly give. 526 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Oh and cool, I did get out the five star reviews. Okay, cool, cool, 527 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: But yo, if you're out there listening, leave us another 528 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: five star review. Every time we get a one star review. 529 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: That motivates people that actually do like the show that 530 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: haven't left a review yet to be like, oh, these 531 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: haters never take a day off, and I would love 532 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: to contribute to some helping the show out. Yes, it's 533 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: five star review, move us up in the polls and 534 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: the charts, and make people want to listen to us. 535 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: Yes, And for those of you that was like I 536 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: already got five, put ten. Gone over there to the 537 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: black guy who tips spoiled movie reviews and leave us 538 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: a five star view over there? 539 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: All right? Who had more joy in their singing today? 540 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: This is our feedback poll, Rod caring or it's a tie. Okay, 541 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: This is a close poll with thirty two percent it's 542 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: a tie with thirty two percent, Rod, which means with 543 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: thirty six percent, somehow Karen still beat me when I 544 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: was giving my best. You guys are biased. I reject 545 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: the results of this side took the poll. 546 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: How you want to recount? 547 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: I count all the ones that say it's a tie 548 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: as being for me, because that's really that's really are sympathy. 549 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Those are sympathy votes that you said, oh he blue 550 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: carrying out the water, so. 551 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: They don't want to pick so they just like A 552 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: just says. 553 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: The time, I know what this means. We got two 554 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: comments at Licta says okay, Beyonce, Rod, I love you, 555 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: but you were trying way too hard with that singing 556 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: in those runs. Karen wins this round. Oh so, now 557 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: y'all liked singers that don't try hard. When did we 558 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: start liking that because I put a little work into 559 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: my singing. All of a sudden, y'all don't like the 560 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: elbow grease Starbar two thousand says, I love you, Rober. 561 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Those misplaced runs exuded forced manufactured joy, which doesn't hold 562 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: a candle to the real deal. I can literally hear 563 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Queen Karen's smile when she sings Fox joined me, But 564 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: thank you for giving me the hardest gut rich and last. 565 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: I've had a long time ride. I needed it. Well, 566 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: you know what Starbar two thousand. First of all, my 567 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: joy is not manufactured. Okay, it's real. It came. I'm 568 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: inside uh as. Second one, Karen smile is fake, okay, 569 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: is not for everything? She didn't. She the one faking Okay, 570 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: y'all the one that fail for it. 571 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: Not I smile all the time. Sometimes I was probably 572 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: smile too much. 573 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. She smiled all the time, which 574 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: means it's fake. It's not it's not real. Okay. I 575 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: put effort into my smile and she just came, came through, 576 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: and y'all fail for it, and it's you know, it's 577 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: not my bad. The artist is the tract, is what 578 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. And I feel like my y'all 579 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: criticism is irrelevant today. So I should have wondered easily. 580 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: Oh that was the whole twenty thirty four Trying to 581 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: Help Wash was an episode we talked about the reaction 582 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: to Kobe Bryant's death. Lean Away with a Bunch of Stuff, 583 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Terry Crews and his apology to Gabrielle Union, not the 584 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: did gap you ever even talk about that apology? I 585 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: feel like she didn't even reply. 586 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: I don't think she addressed. 587 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: So it's over. Yeah, it's over for him. So we 588 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: got one comment. Michelle says, I'm Trinidad, trinidaddy in, which 589 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: is nothing special about. There's nothing special about dreadlocks that 590 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: represent the culture there, the Rastafarian movement originating in Jamaica. 591 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: I doubt the student wearing the dreads is a rosta. 592 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: It was simply his choice of hairstyle, which he is 593 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: entitled to make. The schools seemed to change the rules 594 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: for no reason. I know this detail makes no difference 595 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: in the school's decisions suspend the student for his hairstyle, 596 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: but I felt like being one of those people today. Sorry. 597 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Well you know what, Michelle, You can always choose to 598 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: not be one of those people. But I respect your 599 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: choice to be one of those people. Okay, I understand. 600 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it. Guy ain't thing to doing 601 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: being trenddaddy in either not my culture, not my table, 602 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: not my country. But that was what his reasoning was, 603 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: and maybe he attaches some type of meaning to his 604 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: hairstyle and like his father's country origin or whatever, So 605 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's not for me to decide. I think 606 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: one of the things I think is kind of weird. 607 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: It is like we try to universalize all these fucking 608 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: personal choices in the things, and if it's like, who 609 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: can I how can I tell him that that doesn't 610 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: represent his heritage. It's like people have just said I 611 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: want my hair like this because I'm black, and I'll 612 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: be like, well, not all black people wear their hair 613 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, they we don't, but it's essentially a 614 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: black thing he's doing. Everybody hare can't do that, you know. 615 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think I'm okay with either way. 616 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: But that's say such a it's such. 617 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: A weird footnote that I don't really care. Would you 618 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: watch the all black Asian reboot reboot of the Friends 619 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: of Friends? Yep, I'm in. Nope, I'm good, Karen, I mean, okay, 620 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: Karen will watch all black reboot of the show Friends? Uh, nope, 621 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. I didn't watch the first one with the 622 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: white people, and I probably wouldn't watch the second one. 623 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Although I'm not rooting against those black people. Hope they 624 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: win all the Grammys and Emmies or whatever the fuck 625 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: you get for those shows. But I don't know. Friends 626 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: never really interested me. Oh you mean just like Friends 627 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: show Friends? Yeah, I guess. I mean that's what what 628 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: did know? 629 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: Because I didn't watch Friends. You know, I thought we 630 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: were going to take Friends and spruce it up, and I. 631 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: Mean black it up. I guess put some blackness in it. 632 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather watch a living single or something. 633 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 1: I agree Friends, but you know that you wouldn't need 634 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: to reboot it with black people. You just you know. Anyway, 635 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Anything for Bernie was this. 636 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: Episode with the numbers. Did you do the numbers? 637 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh shit? Did I not do the numbers? Yeah? I didn't. Okay, 638 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: sixty four percent say they good, thirty six percent say 639 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: they in okay, So I think I mean I'm good. 640 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't want it. Anything for Bernie was episode twenty 641 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: thirty five. Got one comment from a mine man anytime 642 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: you know what else to care? Anytime I started talking about. 643 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: Bernie, people come out to worry about that. 644 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: It is about that time for us to start getting 645 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: bad reviews, weird emails. 646 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: Right your messages and post yourself. They probably got your 647 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: shit starred you deleted it. They's like, fuck it, I'm 648 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: gonna take a snapshot and I'm gonna beat Shore that 649 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm remind him. 650 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. That's probably all this. 651 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: Is every time he runs, and when it get close 652 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: to the election, you know, they kind of scattered, but yeah, 653 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: they'll be back. 654 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: I just need that man to like, no, I'm not 655 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: even gonna say it, because I would vote for him. 656 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: I don't know why these niggas be so mad if 657 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: you're not like sucking his dick. Anyway, That was up 658 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: twenty thirty five. Anything for Bernie. Your mom says, hey, y'all, 659 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: you're reading Rambow. Segment reminded me of a conversation I 660 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: had with my sister, who's a journalist and a freelance writer. 661 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: He did an interview with a foster parent, and people 662 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: kept calling or texting her about how it was so 663 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: good and impressive it made them cry. She called me 664 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: upset because to her it was literally the simplest thing 665 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: she ever wrote. She was kind of insulted, in fact, 666 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: because she does a lot of research for other things 667 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: she's written. I laughed and reminded her that's how people 668 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: are with that's how people are when they don't do 669 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: what you do. Always going to like or understand your 670 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: high art and may rave and gush about something you 671 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: think is so simple. Definitely going to have to check 672 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: out Quest Loves book. 673 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because you know it's one of those things 674 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: with when people don't put things out there, they don't 675 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: really undamn. But there's things that you do as a 676 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 2: creative where you go, I like this, I think this, 677 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: this is cool, and people getting it be like I 678 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: didn't have the same thing to this some ship where 679 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: you like this is okay, and people going it's the 680 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: best thing in the world, and you're like, oh, okay, 681 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: I guess y'all determine. 682 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think also like you have to let go 683 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of your expectations and desires for the 684 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: audience reaction correct. You know, like you can't be a 685 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: control freak or perfectionist in that way because you're you're 686 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: dealing with You're dealing with other people, and other people 687 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: are variables, and so you know, it's something that you 688 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: really over the years, I know I've had to learn 689 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: to let go to be like, well, some people ain't 690 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: gonna like it, you know, and how the fuck can 691 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: I really be mad at that when we have been 692 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: so supportive and so affirmed and so like, we have 693 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 1: had every thought that we feel about what we do 694 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: essentially support it. Like people have come back and say, 695 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: I actually do like this thing. I like. Some people 696 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: even go, I didn't like this at first, Now I 697 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: do like it, you know. So yeah, I can't even 698 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: can't even complain. God'll just let people do what they feel, 699 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: what they feeling. I'm sure I have my things that 700 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't like and stuff, and that's what that's for me, 701 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, to try to decide how to determine and 702 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 1: handle that stuff. 703 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying. 704 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm really focusing on allowing people more room to cook, 705 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: to make their mistakes, to do the things I don't like, 706 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: to disagree with the things I believe. Like I'm trying 707 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: my best to like allow for people's humanity because I 708 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: feel and maybe it's an overcorrection, but I feel like 709 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: too much pressure via the Internet and social media and 710 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: just media in general, too much pressure has become about 711 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: like being very black or white, on people being very dismissive, 712 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: being very like there is no right answer except the 713 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: one I arrived to anything else is my enemy, all. 714 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: Right, there is no other way. One plus one equals two, 715 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: three minus one equals two, two plus zero equals two. 716 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: So my thing is, as long as you come up 717 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: with the same results, who can talk about how you 718 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: get there? And that's how I've always felt. Who who 719 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: cares what road the mountain you took to get there. 720 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: But that's assuming you get to the same result. I'm saying. 721 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not gonna get to the same result. I 722 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: was reading the article today where Lena Waite was addressing 723 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: the commentary around her film Coin and Slim and how 724 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot of black people, specifically black women, felt ultimately 725 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: betrayed by that film and felt very hurt by the 726 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: ending and felt very confused by what the messaging was 727 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. The love scene, slash, the black kids, shooting, 728 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: the cop scene and shit. And there's a lot of anger, 729 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: righteous anger from a lot of the people that she 730 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: promoted that film to. You know, she used all the 731 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: woke buzzwords that got those people to feel like it 732 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: was some type of safeness or some type of understanding 733 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: and envision that they never would experience from someone else, 734 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: and it led to people arguing for weeks and all 735 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: this shit. So she was defending her film and someone 736 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: had sent this to me, like, look at this interview, 737 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: and I'll you know, I mean, I on front. Some 738 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: of it I did find to be kind of laughable 739 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: or kind of like typical typical like deflection and avoiding 740 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: stuff that she's done before, you know. You know, they 741 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: brought up, you know, the me too movement and how 742 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: things happened on the set of the shot. So she 743 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: had told everybody how she would it would never happen 744 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: on one of her sets, and she would handle it 745 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: and all. And then all of a sudden, she was like, 746 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm just a janitor. I don't know, I don't even 747 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: work here, you know. But at the end of the day, though, 748 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: when I read that shit and she defended her choices 749 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: in that film, you know what I said, that's her decision, correct, 750 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: I Like, the only real decision I get to make 751 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: is whether or not I want to see the next 752 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: Lena Waite film. That's it. Like, if she feels that 753 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: those were good decisions, I can see the reasoning to 754 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: why she feels those were good decisions. I don't need 755 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: to knock her down because I didn't enjoy it, or 756 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: because I felt that it would have been better with 757 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: a different decision. That's not my fucking That's not what 758 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: I want to do to her art. I want to 759 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: understand it. That's it. And if I can understand it, 760 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: then I can at least acknowledge, like, Okay, here's the 761 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: creativity in that. And I understood her point. You know, 762 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: she brought it back to like, you know, the nineties 763 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: and John Singleton flicks like Boys in the Hood and 764 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, Minister Society and you know, and how it 765 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: ended sometimes sad and people died or they didn't make 766 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: it out the hood or you know, and that was 767 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: a message that he wanted to send to America about 768 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: what was happening in black neighborhoods that people didn't give 769 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: a fuck about. And you know what, I remember that time. 770 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it at that time. 771 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: Now it's twenty twenty, you would think, well, that was 772 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: already that statement was made in the nineties, Why do 773 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: we need to make it again, But you know what, 774 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: she felt like it was time for it to be 775 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: made again. That's it. So the same way that I 776 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: would defend like Tyler Perry's the choice to use shitty 777 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: wigs and at least he don't you know, he keep 778 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: it real. He'll never like try to use the woke 779 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: buzz words. He really be like, I'm over here making 780 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: films for my folk. Okay, lean Away, that's the art 781 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: she wants to make as a black person. She don't 782 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: have to represent me, she don't got to represent you. 783 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: And she can talk all that talk, but at the 784 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, she represents lean A Waite and 785 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: that's all she's really responsible for doing. So I don't 786 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: know I was able to kind of let all that 787 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: shit go when I read it, and I know I 788 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to get like worked up and be like 789 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: fuck her, but nah, it's her work, right. 790 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: And also I think for me. I mean, I talked 791 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: to you off my but I think for me overall. 792 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. 793 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: But a lot of times I'll see shit happened, I 794 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: go okay, and then I just turn around and go 795 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 2: and do what iut. Some shit, I don't even talk 796 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: to you about it. I'm like, oh, I don't give fuck, 797 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: and I just go on do it out like like 798 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: that's them. They have the right to do those things. 799 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: They have the right to say those things. I am 800 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: in control of my own emotions. I am in control 801 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: on how much I allow it to directly impact my 802 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: day to day life. I am in control of that. 803 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: A lot of times people on social media act like 804 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 2: they are not in control of their emotions and they 805 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: are not in control over the actions that they take 806 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: based off of somebody else's actions. You are. You don't 807 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: have to say anything, you don't have to respond. You 808 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: don't have to if you choose to, so be it. 809 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: You have the right to respond back. But they also 810 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: have the right to respond and not respond back to you. 811 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah so, And I think also it's just weird to 812 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: be like, I criticize your shit and now I expect 813 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: you to internalize it and change your entire point of view. No, 814 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: I did what I did. I did think about it. 815 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: So now what you're gonna do? Because that's really all 816 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: you can ask somebody, did you think about this choice 817 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: you made? Because there's there's thoughtless decisions, and there's you know, 818 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: decisions with intent. And if you can say, if you 819 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: tell an artist like I didn't like this thing you did, 820 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: and they go, well, I did that on purpose for 821 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: these reasons, right, I feel like you need to drop it. 822 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't think there's another level to this. That's it. 823 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: The way I feel has been considered and they don't agree, 824 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, And I think more people need to get 825 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: more comfortable with that shit. And I'm trying my best 826 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: to be comfortable with that, you know, and and and 827 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: accept people for This is this person's point of view. 828 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: This is where they're at. They're not coming off of 829 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: this for now. 830 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: Cool. 831 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: Now, what is my actions? 832 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: What is my actions? 833 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: The poets? Have you ever been set up or set 834 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: up someone to be robbed? 835 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: No? 836 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: No? Okay? The first of all the answers weren't yes 837 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: or no, it was yes or not yet. 838 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: So Karen, I'm not setting nobody up to you rob No. 839 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: Yes or not yet? Mm hmm yes or not yet? 840 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: Mm mmmmm what then? I this right here doesn't make 841 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 2: me feel good, So I am abstaining from the boat. 842 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll put you down for not yet. Ninety 843 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: two percent of the audience agrees with Karen, not yet. 844 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: Haven't set anyone up to be robbed yet? Eight percent 845 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: say yes they have. Brooklyn shoe Bay says, my family 846 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: is was very suspicious. So my brother and I were 847 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: raised by my grandmother that everything is the possibility of 848 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: a robbery set up. Don't let friends come over they 849 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: scoping the house out to get robbed. Left their keys 850 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: at the supermarket. Don't call and ask if they are there, 851 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: because someone will figure out where you live and come 852 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: rob you. Someone asks you for the time they're about 853 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: to rob you. For your watch, you get the dirt, 854 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: you get the drift. Yep, New York City Baby rock 855 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: Star says, Hey, guys, keep up the great work caring. 856 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for your loss. Finally caught back up with 857 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: all your podcasts. Now, I'm actually now I actually feel 858 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: comfortable comment again having said anybody up. But my wife 859 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: can't say the same. Let's just say, while working her 860 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,959 Speaker 1: retail job back into two thousands, management wasn't treating her well. 861 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: She told a couple of her friends, who who told 862 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: a couple of friends missing text here and they partied 863 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: as split the money. She's a different person now, God 864 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: is working on all of us. 865 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: I'm glad she's a different person now. 866 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, So what episode was that? That was for anything? 867 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: For Bernie? Right? All right? So then the next episode 868 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: is Later with Leon, which had four comments. Someone told 869 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: me they actually watched Later with Leon. They told me 870 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: that on Facebook. They said I wouldn't watch Later with Leon. 871 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: They said it was not good because Leon was in 872 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: there talking about Gail Kane. I was like, oh, all right, 873 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about the comments. We got four, not a 874 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: They're not a niner. You guys know what I mean? Hey, 875 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: rody care. Tyler Perry got the views he did because 876 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 1: he spent thirty years building a fan base. Yeah, because 877 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: he got twenty six million views, which isn't the most 878 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: ever on Netflix or anything, but like it's a lot 879 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: more than what people would have had. You believe will 880 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: want to see some shitty show that blah blah blah. 881 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: Apparently it's it got pretty a lot of views. Tyler 882 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: Perry got the views he did because he spent thirty 883 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: years building up a fan base. The wokes on Twitter 884 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: are overestimating their power. They may have contributed a couple 885 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: of thousand views, but nothing that will ever make or 886 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: break him. He was already stated he's already stated that 887 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: he is going to start executive producing content. I don't 888 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: know what the uproar is about at this point. The 889 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: high class Twitter niggas am mad that he hasn't hired them. 890 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: You can't get your terrible writing published on the route, 891 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: but somehow you think that oh the shade, Oh, shots fire, 892 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: shots fired all over the fam. 893 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: Bam bam bam. You get a buet, you get it, 894 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 2: buy you know what. You take one to the head too. 895 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it's gonna get this serious. It was 896 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: a shade that is just being around here. Somebody said, 897 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: hold up, who talking Mark Tyler? I got something to say. 898 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: I want to go to the blackoutes dot com. 899 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: A cat cat cats you. 900 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, uh, at this point, the high class towel 901 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: the niggas. I'm mad he has a hire them. You 902 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: can't get your terrible writing published on the route, But 903 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: somehow I think you can tell that man how to 904 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: run the ship that he has built. What is so 905 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: hard about not watching? Listen? I'm with you, anonymous, real 906 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: talk like, I'm like, y'all complain about Tyler because y'all 907 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 1: just like to complain at this point because the nigga 908 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: ain't changing. You definitely ain't changing. What the fuck is 909 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: the point and. 910 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 2: Just sever of the relationship leave. This is an abusive relationship. 911 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 2: Y'all don't need to be there together. 912 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: He don't want to write for y'all. You don't want 913 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: to watch his ship the end. 914 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: Part way sign of divorce, papers baby and everybody leave 915 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 2: and split fifty fifteen. Goot your goddamn business. 916 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Lotus Flower says Hello roder Karen, 917 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: Happy Black History mon My white husband and I are 918 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: enjoying your reading Rainbow segment, especially during this month. We 919 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: learned something new about the Loving versus Virginia case. And 920 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: it's crazy how recent that was, isn't it Like when 921 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: I hear Love and Day, I always be thinking to myself, like, oh, 922 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: that must have been around since nineteen and twelve, and 923 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: it's like nineteen seventy six or whatever it was. Like, damn, 924 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: we got. 925 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: Family members that were born that age. 926 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: Yep. We looked up Loving Day June twelfth and decided 927 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: we would start celebrating it this year. Side note, we 928 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: are loving your premium content. We are also trying to 929 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: think of creative activities to do with our one year 930 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: old son for Black History Month. He's still pretty young, 931 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: so I think we will settle for taking him to 932 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: a museum featuring historical figures. He will understand none of it. 933 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: But it's really it's more for us and start a 934 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: tradition as a family. Do your families have anything special 935 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: you do for this month? Not really, we know, we've 936 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: never really been a family that celebrated like June teenth 937 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: or like Black History Month as far as like a 938 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: specific annual tradition. But I mean, obviously I got my 939 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: love of black history and stuff from when I was 940 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: a kid, and you know, my parents might take me 941 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: to like a Black history fair or something. My mom 942 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: I remember taking me to this black history like exhibit 943 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: it and then buying me books and stuff. I still 944 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,479 Speaker 1: remember those books. I know they're still on the shelf 945 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: at my parents' house. 946 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 947 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: Or the Mayflower What color was Jesus? 948 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, your dad just told me he bought some more bookshelves. 949 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, yeah, I definitely have that attachment. 950 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: But you all know what's interesting, And I know some 951 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: people feel like it's a controversial view. I personally don't 952 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: care which way you follow on this. I would I 953 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: don't have a problem either way. But I feel like 954 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: black history was like three sixty five, you know, like 955 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't like it's American history. So it wasn't necessarily 956 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: this thing that was cording off to just a month, right, 957 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily a thing that made me feel like yeah, 958 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: and so I do get excited for Black History Month 959 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: as especially as I get older. When I was when 960 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: I was younger, I wasn't that excited. 961 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: About black but I was the same preapproved Negroes. 962 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: And well, it was mostly through the ostices of school 963 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: that that that it would be quote unquote celebrated, and 964 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: the way it was taught was very, uh to me, 965 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: almost demeaning. There wasn't a lot of lessons, like teachers 966 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: weren't talking to us much. It was a lot more like, 967 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: let's watch eyes on the prize every day for a 968 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, let's talk about Martin Luther King. You know, 969 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: people do book reports on like you know, uh, the same, 970 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: like Karen said, preapproved negroes. And so it became like a. 971 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: Chore rise and it wasn't fun for me. 972 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the white kids felt, you know, super guilty and shit. 973 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: And I know there's some black people that really get 974 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: off on that, but I'm not one of those black 975 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: people that get off on on like, look, how bad 976 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: the white people feel today, Oh, our dick is hard 977 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: Like to me, I'm like, that's sad that our history 978 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: makes them feel that way. And why is it being 979 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: taught in a way that isn't American history? Because you 980 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: teach me about the Founding fathers and you don't teach 981 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 1: the Founding fathers who did own slaves in a way 982 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: that's supposed to piss off black kids. Right, you don't 983 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: do that. That's not on purpose. You found a way 984 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: to make the motherfuckers palatable. But when you teach black history, 985 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: you make it sound like it's a fucking service to us, 986 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: or you know, like white people are you gotta learn this? 987 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: You gotta learn how sad these times where it's like, well, 988 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe talk about different stories, or maybe teach 989 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 1: instead of just showing a fucking film like and being 990 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: ashamed or being. 991 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 2: Like that's because they don't want to teach it. 992 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, teach the fucking lesson the way you taught me 993 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: and this other shit. You know, I know a lot 994 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: of the history shit is full of lives and bullshit, 995 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: but it's like dog like, it's an obvious, stark difference 996 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: between this and Black history. Teachings and other stuff. So anyway, 997 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, it wasn't really a thing 998 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 1: we like, quote unquote celebrated like that. We also didn't 999 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: like celebrate Kwanza and all that stuff. You know, I 1000 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: know some black houses did, we just weren't one of 1001 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: those houses. As for the Iowa caucus, wow, are we 1002 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: an embarrassment. I don't understand the point of how they 1003 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: do it and wish they would just let us vote 1004 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: and leave. Currently, we have to wait for the two 1005 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: to four hours, depending on the precinct, until our body 1006 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: is counted and final talies are in. I'm an introvert 1007 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: and antisocial, so being in a room with a bunch 1008 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: of people for hours gave me so much anxiety. The 1009 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: process is inconvenient for people with children, are those who 1010 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: have to work during the evening. It's nearly impossible for 1011 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: them to participate. The caucas system is outdated and mostly 1012 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: benefits white people. Luckily, my husband stay home with our 1013 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: six son so that I could caucus, but it would 1014 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: have been a second vote for one. Yeah, you know, 1015 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: it's so crazy that caucusing. I don't really understand. It 1016 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: is properly confusing. I've listened to it explained a few times. 1017 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: I think I kind of get it, but then when 1018 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: I went, it's like, once you understand it, then it 1019 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: becomes like why do y'all even do it? You know, 1020 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: as opposed to like, oh, I understand and I see 1021 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: what's valuable about this. It's like I understand it, and 1022 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: it scenes convoluted for no fucking reason. 1023 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 2: So then in a certain situations something happened, you know, 1024 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 2: just change and then if we got a tie, we 1025 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 2: flip a fucking coin, a goddamn coin. Right, I'm sorry, 1026 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 2: just frustrating. It's stupid. 1027 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: I will say. When I first got there, I was 1028 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: the only black person in the room. After looking around 1029 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 1: for about half half an hour, I saw a handful 1030 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: of other black people, older black people come in, and 1031 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: I got excited until they walked over the old man 1032 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: Joe's group. Well, wasn't a lot of them over there, 1033 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 1: it seems then you got fourteen percent of the vote, 1034 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: so you know, don't like, at least in Iowa, it 1035 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: doesn't like, you know, he was a threat. A couple 1036 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: of them staring at me like I had deflected or 1037 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: defected or something. I felt like Rod. I felt like 1038 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: Rod on Team Ta Tay. Yeah, it's lonely. It's lonely, 1039 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: but there's more of us growing every day. Anyway, Sorry 1040 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: for the long response, just thought I would share my experience. 1041 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: No need to apologize, Dia says, Happy Black History Month. 1042 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: The last two weeks have been exhausted. And I speak 1043 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 1: on Tyler Perry. I follow a white film critic from 1044 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: Canada on social media who basically said he does not 1045 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: like to review Tyler perry movies because he is not 1046 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: the intended audience. And any white critic or anyone else 1047 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: not part of Perry's audience who hangs their hat on 1048 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: saying how bad his movies are, it's just an asshole. 1049 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: And that is how I feel about most of his movies. 1050 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the intended audience, and I'm just being an assholes. 1051 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: I go around telling people who enjoy the films how 1052 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: bad they are. Yeah, I don't know, I promise you, man. 1053 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: And maybe it's just the way I'm thinking lately, but 1054 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully I'll find a way to articulate this one day. 1055 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: But there's a weird type of respectability to the anti 1056 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: respectability shit too. There's a weird type of like it's 1057 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: not really freedom for everybody. It's really like you need 1058 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: to be a certain type of nigga for us to 1059 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: fuck with you. And and I'm I don't think I 1060 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: fuck with it, you know what I mean? Likes there's 1061 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: a certain type of like we think this type of 1062 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: trope is old and played out, But then what about 1063 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: the people who experience is that? Do they not get 1064 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: to So no more movies for them, no more TV 1065 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: shows for them, nothing, They're not They're supposed to go 1066 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: through life with Joyler's existence or only get finding joy 1067 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: in the fucking woke ass shit you fuck with That's it, 1068 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: like it just it don't seem like real freedom. It's not, 1069 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's seeing kind of fake the way people 1070 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: are doing this. And I can't get down with that 1071 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: so anyway, But I will say that Tyler Perry is 1072 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: my baked beans. I don't like baked beans, but I 1073 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: have had them a few times and they were pretty good. 1074 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: So every time I see them at a function, I 1075 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: always get a small spoon to them because these may 1076 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 1: be the ones I liked before or not. I enjoyed 1077 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: the family that praise and it's out saw that one 1078 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: and mister Deed's and mister d d. I think that 1079 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: isn't mister D's Adam Sandler movie. 1080 00:54:59,560 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1081 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: Maybe, Oh so, yeah, Adam Sailing is the White Tyler 1082 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: per the Jewish Tyler pairs. So I've watched Fall from Grace. Oh, 1083 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: good Deeds, I didn't see that one. Uh. So I 1084 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: watched Fall from Grace. Oh that was a good tank though, 1085 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: because the whole Adam Sandler deal duality. I like that. 1086 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: So I watched Fall from Grace because it took a 1087 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: lot of the boxes for me. I enjoy thrillers in 1088 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: courtroom dramas. I didn't like these baked beans, but I 1089 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: think I am polite about it. I didn't spit them out. 1090 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: I just shrugged it off. I still need to watch it. 1091 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: I still need to watch it. Plus, I had that 1092 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: thing in my brain where it's like, if something not good, 1093 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: I can laugh, and that's really all I need. I mean, acrimoni. 1094 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: I was like immediately like, oh, just say okay, well shit, 1095 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: if he ain't trying, let me get my jokes on. 1096 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 2: Oh. I had a ball watching that in a movie theater. 1097 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: But these last few years have been very rough for 1098 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: black filmmakers. Actors and black creators in general. And when 1099 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: I say creatives, I don't just mean people in arts 1100 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: and media. I've been If you have ever been in 1101 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: the elementary class, you know the teachers can be creators, 1102 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's not always and it's not always the rough 1103 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: because of the lack of opportunity. I saw your Twitter 1104 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: post about people who catched their jealousy and enviness and 1105 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: wokeness and it really resonated with me. Mm hmm. To 1106 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: borrow from a conversation with an acquaintance, Twitter has largely 1107 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: become an arms race to see who can be the meanest, 1108 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: the most quotable. It's exhausting. Do any of you actually 1109 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: enjoy movies or anything anymore? Or has a dopamine rush 1110 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 1: caused by the perfect insult become too much to resist? 1111 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 1: Have a great upcoming week? 1112 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 2: I agree. 1113 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: I was reading the article by this comedian and it 1114 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: was so fucking good and maybe I'll save it for 1115 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: the show and we can read it in full. But 1116 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: it was really about how that she stopped commenting on 1117 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: Twitter comedy beefs and shit, and how it won. It 1118 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: helped her out mental health wise, but also it helped 1119 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: her realize the kind of the reverse psychology of Twitter, 1120 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: to where you think Twitter is helping you because you're 1121 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 1: getting likes and retweets, but one is hurting your mental 1122 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: health to getting all these people that are interacting with you, 1123 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: whether they be bribed, so they be people that want 1124 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: to harass you, even if they're people that want to 1125 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: give you big, big ups. It's just spreading your message, spading, spread, 1126 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: spreading and getting more and more interaction on brains aren't 1127 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: designed for all that. And then also it doesn't really 1128 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: reward nuance. And so when you say something like she 1129 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: at this example, like if you were to say, I 1130 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: don't like Beyonce's latest song, but I get how other 1131 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: people could like it because she's a talented artist and 1132 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: music opinions are subjective. Okay, that's one thing. How much 1133 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: interaction you think you're gonna get with that comment, But 1134 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: if you were to say Beyonce is trash, right. 1135 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 2: You don't get responsible. 1136 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: One of these is gonna get a lot more responses 1137 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: than the other and there's a fucking reason for it. 1138 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: And so this place rewards that type of of communication. 1139 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: So what do people gravitate towards Tyler Perry is trash? 1140 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't see how anyone could like this. If you 1141 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: don't fuck with this candidate, then then fuck you. You know, 1142 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: that type of thing is more prevalent on social media 1143 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: because of the interaction equation. Eve says that woman who 1144 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: got the vibrator stuck in her bladder is lining her 1145 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: ass off. There is no way she was using that 1146 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: toys directed. I looked up the toy in question and 1147 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: saw that even though it's a thin vibrator, it would 1148 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: take some It would take some trying to get up 1149 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: in the in the urethra. My theory for what happened 1150 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: is that she and her partner were trying this fetish 1151 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: called sounding. I've heard about this, usually done to the male, 1152 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: but I guess some women may like it too. 1153 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 2: Oh. 1154 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: Sounding is when you put something in the urethra. 1155 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 2: Oh oh, I hadn't been down that hole. 1156 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: Some people put like a little ride in the p hole. 1157 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I've been down. I guess I didn't 1158 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 2: get to that level of my pornography. 1159 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: But what you do is stick along Well, I've never 1160 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: seen any port. I just know about your definition. But 1161 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: what you do is stick a long, thin metal ride 1162 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: up the urethra. The p hole if you will, and 1163 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: you basically move it in and out in motion, but 1164 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: not quite pulling it out. It's called sounding because when 1165 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: done properly, it makes a whistling sound. I only know 1166 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,959 Speaker 1: this because it was in a weird point. I once 1167 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: to watch and I found out that that was actually 1168 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: a thing when I when I looked it up. I 1169 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: hope that lady doesn't get a dime. Well, Karen thinks 1170 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: it was just, uh, we need instructions because you know 1171 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: people out here sticking things. They must not know. 1172 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: That's new information. I did not know nothing about no 1173 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 2: sounding or nothing like that. All this is Brent, And 1174 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 2: now I got new evidence. And when you get new evidence, 1175 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 2: I am more educated, so you can change your mind. 1176 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: So I yeah, I don't. Yeah, I understand them for saying, 1177 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 2: bitch what No? 1178 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: Well, I hope that, uh, you know, they get Karen 1179 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: on the jury so they can get the money. Will 1180 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: vibrators come, It'll be eleven to one, but krying go 1181 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: stick to this the guns. Should vibrators come with a 1182 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,479 Speaker 1: warning not to stick them into your p hole? Yes, 1183 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: I need to be warn No, I think that's understood already, Karen. 1184 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: I think that's unders Wow, so you changing your old opinions. 1185 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 2: I told you. New evidence has came to the table. 1186 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: I learned about sounding today, and apparently it is not 1187 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: from the from the person making the sounds. This is 1188 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 2: from the penis, so the vagina. I didn't notice, this 1189 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,959 Speaker 2: is the brain information. I got the right to change 1190 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: my opinion. 1191 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: You do have that right. I'm not even gonna mock 1192 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: you anymore. Yes, I need to be warned. Fourteen percent 1193 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: of y'all need to be warned. And see, this is 1194 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: what y'all get, because I know y'all were only saying 1195 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: that to support Karen, because y'all think she saw adorable 1196 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: and sweet and she smiles when she sings, and y'all 1197 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: came out here looking stupid because new evidence came alight. 1198 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: And Karen doesn't even fuck with y'all fourteen percent, no more. So, 1199 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: now who's the dummy? 1200 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 2: Not me? 1201 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: I was always on team No. I think that's understood already, 1202 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: because I know that you don't need the fucking warning 1203 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: to be like, don't put it in your po when 1204 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: it comes to a vibrator. 1205 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they already And that's and that's the thing, 1206 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 2: because when it came to it. I was thinking like 1207 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 2: us standard vibrator right, Like, I didn't go look it 1208 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 2: up or anything like that, So I didn't. 1209 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Know panduras is what they are. Karen, let you already 1210 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: on the other side of just don't try to go 1211 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: back and defend them. 1212 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 2: No, No, I speak for me personally, I didn't know. 1213 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Brooklyn shoe Ba says I voted no, but if 1214 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: someone has managed to do it, I suppose one should 1215 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: be given. Why'd you vote no? That insists? See this 1216 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: is what I'll try to head your bet so you 1217 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: can be on Karen's side too. No, this, unlike other things, 1218 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: is literally a black and white situation. Everybody should be 1219 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: on my side and support me. Okay, that's the only 1220 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: thing that matter. Even Karen is on my side. Now 1221 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: this topic, I suppose warning should be given, perhaps an 1222 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: instruction manual. I know their instruction. No sex toys, sex 1223 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: play videos, including things like ropes, hot wax, et cetera. 1224 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: But I never saw one fire to use a vibrator. 1225 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Star Wars two thousand says I voted yes because sex 1226 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: education with emphasis on pleasure a woman's body is still 1227 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: a mystery to most people. Ride you and Karen have discussed, 1228 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: are the goes to studies that have proven it to 1229 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: be a fact. No, you are gonna get grifted, Star 1230 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: bar not to mention the woman to see he was 1231 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: also the one that voted against my singing I'm sensing 1232 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a patty. Not to mention. The woman in the story 1233 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: said her boyfriend was pleasuring her with the vibrator, so 1234 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: he probably did it imitated something he saw on the point. Oh, 1235 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I know you were joking, but I don't think people 1236 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: should be shamed for not knowing. I think they knew. 1237 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe the lies. Sense wake up, That's all 1238 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Wake up to the grift. This ain't nothing 1239 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: but oss Field piping hot coffee on me and McDonald's, 1240 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh I need all the money. And then he found 1241 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: out this motherfucker and plotted this shit for months. Okay, 1242 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: don't read past the headlines, look past the obvious. These 1243 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: are two people grifting the sex toy industry, making all 1244 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,919 Speaker 1: of us pay more for our deal doughs. I don't 1245 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: think so I won't have it, not with. 1246 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 2: My tax dollars. 1247 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Mill says, I agree on Tyler Perry. People need 1248 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: to fall back years ago. I went to my local 1249 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: cinema to see one of his movies. It was someone's 1250 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: big Mama birthday. They proceeded to pass out cake and 1251 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: snacks to everyone prior to the movie. We all had 1252 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: a ball. One time, I took a white coworker to 1253 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Boo Halloween to cheer him up, and he said it 1254 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: was exactly what he needed. There are plenty of independent 1255 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: films for the Wolkes to watch. I watched them as well, 1256 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: but I can enjoy a good slash bad movie at times. 1257 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: If Sailor can make money with his feels and Tyler 1258 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: can too, damn they want to watch it, complain, but 1259 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: yet not watch all the smaller black movies either. Man, 1260 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: don't even started on that part, but yeah, I do. 1261 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: There's something about the anti Tyler wave that just feels 1262 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: like niggas that don't hang out with niggas at all, 1263 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I know I was 1264 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: making a running joke, but I really do. They do 1265 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: feel like coming to Thanksgiving and like, now, who is 1266 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: this some vegan options? It's like dog like. 1267 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 2: I told you, it's pork here. We don't need to 1268 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 2: steak eat for your ass? 1269 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: Come like well, now You're about to give us a 1270 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: whole dissertation on black health and diabetes and. 1271 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: Shit like you don't care at the time, they got 1272 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 2: too much sugar in it. 1273 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: We know, Oh it's not the time. Get you some 1274 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: glass of water and move on. 1275 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Eat the cellaristicks and shut up. 1276 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: We don't want the lecture. We get it. It's not 1277 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: good for us. 1278 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 2: We get it. You gonna live to you one hundred 1279 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 2: and five and we gonna die next year. We get it. Okay, 1280 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 2: who invited you anyway? 1281 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,919 Speaker 1: Who want the hog malls? Okay, that's all we want 1282 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: to know. Do you want the chillings or not? That's 1283 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the real question. Next episode was go to Church, Leave 1284 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: me Alone, and Sailor Agne says, this bickering against Nancy 1285 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Pelosi from white liberals has been oddly cathartic. I feel 1286 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: the same way when those same folks were putting that 1287 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: case on for Joe Rogan. It's like what you said, Rod, 1288 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: It's like people want to smoke but don't want it 1289 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: at the same time. These people want leaders and they 1290 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: want the shit on them. When we literally have authoritarians 1291 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: on the end on the other end fucking up democracy, 1292 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sick of it. Be it when it was 1293 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: drone strikes. Occupy Wall Street. Oh, y'all, I cannot wait 1294 01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: to read this article about Occupy Wall Street. Okay, the 1295 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: motherfucker that started Occupy Wall Street a whole scammer. Oh 1296 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: that was white people's man they really like, they really 1297 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: like Turn and he's black too, I believe, or biracial, 1298 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: so like he really he's been accused of being a 1299 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: whole scammer out here. I was laughing when I read 1300 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that article because I was like, iqipow Wall Street really 1301 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: is responsible for a lot of people's blueprint to what 1302 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: they think politics and protests are supposed to be. I'm like, 1303 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: this motherfucker is rich and scamming. This ain't this, I'll 1304 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: tell you. It's so many activists that wouldn't trade for 1305 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: my bank account straight up. I just don't even know 1306 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: what to say. I'm like, nigg, you're doing too good 1307 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: to be this man anyway, Iki pow wall Street, Bernie 1308 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: twenty ten to sixteen mid terms and presidents or elections, Defensive, 1309 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Glenn Green, wild Slash, Julian Massage, wiki links, and so 1310 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: much more. I can't fuck with these people, And like Karen, 1311 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: I too have tapped out. I'll be voting for the 1312 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: nominee no matter what, however, put demagogaury, but the demagogery 1313 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: is too much a hell of short sighted for the 1314 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: million times. The sad part is, even if they do, 1315 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote learn this very lesson from Bernie, I feel 1316 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 1: like they'll make another Messiah and then get burned out 1317 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: because white liberals and even liberals slash Dems as a group, 1318 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: get too comfy. People want hope and change and peace 1319 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: and love, yet don't want that, don't keep that same 1320 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: energy when it comes to others. Right. That was the 1321 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: thing I with Hassamon, not just comments that made it 1322 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: just felt so myopic, and it reminded me of why 1323 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I think at this point it's just hard to argue 1324 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: against how social media has not changed us in a 1325 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: bad way. Not all of it's bad, but some of 1326 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: the shit has allowed for us to really be so 1327 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: focused on ourselves in a way that says, fuck everybody 1328 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: else and convince ourselves with the good guys for doing that. 1329 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 2: Yep, Like I'm so focused on me, I deserve a reward. 1330 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: You guys are the problem. And I think this idea 1331 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 1: of needing to feel great about your civic duty is 1332 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: one of those things you know, this idea that or 1333 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: that everyone before you got to feel great and now 1334 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: it's your turn, and it's like, that's not what happened. 1335 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Nobody really felt great voting for presidents before this. Like 1336 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: the only president that really felt like people felt great 1337 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: voting for my lifetime was Obama, right, And that was 1338 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: only the first time, really, because then by twenty twelve, 1339 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: white people had given up on him. Black people had 1340 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: turned them into like, he's a coon because he don't 1341 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 1: just he's not a black activist. 1342 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: And him come in and swing dick and tell these 1343 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 2: black people what's he gonna do. 1344 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a black activist in chief, so he 1345 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, it's supposed to be a civic 1346 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: duty that you do. It's like paying taxes. It's like, 1347 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a bunch of shit that we 1348 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: do that. It's like, I'm doing this for the benefit 1349 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: of society because I feel like it's my job to 1350 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: push the ball for a little bit more. It's not. 1351 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I don't. I'm not surprised that the 1352 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: group that's most the most dis chanted are the people 1353 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: that fail for you know, Oh, Obama's gonna say what's 1354 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: all hope and change and the black like I like, 1355 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And I don't mean it to disrespect them, but I 1356 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: do sometimes roll my eyes at them because I'm like, well, 1357 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't have been so fucking like caught up 1358 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: in this code of personality with Obama, then you wouldn't 1359 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 1: be so let down. 1360 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 2: And a lot of. 1361 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 1: Us made sober choices to vote for him. We weren't 1362 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: caught up in the height. We were happy for him. 1363 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: We were happy about the landmark, don't get me wrong. 1364 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 1: But none of us is like I don't care what 1365 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: his policies is. I we'll figure it out later. Like no, 1366 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: we was like, this is his policies also happened to 1367 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: be better. That was what we voted for, and when 1368 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he delivered on the things he promised, we were like, 1369 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: that's reasonable. When we looked at the opposition he faced 1370 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and we were like, this opposition is literally unprecedented, and 1371 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: he's still getting things done. I'm with it. When we 1372 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 1: soberly looked at like, okay, we will love single payer, 1373 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: but when you have blue dog Democrats who will absolutely 1374 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: not vote for that, he doesn't have the votes he 1375 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 1: will have to change president, lower the amount of votes 1376 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 1: he could get in Senate, or he would have to 1377 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: do executive order. We're not stupid, we followed that. So 1378 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: our reaction to these emotional outbursts of just like, well, 1379 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted this, and that's all I care about 1380 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,639 Speaker 1: is when we come back and we're sober rational people like, well, 1381 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: this is why that didn't happen, and I understand it, 1382 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: and this is why I feel like we're the adults 1383 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,879 Speaker 1: in the room now and it's become this weird reverse 1384 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:50,480 Speaker 1: reality where they're still kind of being these throwing tantrums. 1385 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: They're still doing the like, well then Bernie will do it, 1386 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you know. It's like my point is nobody can just 1387 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: come in the rough shot change the entire government forward. 1388 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: It's easier to do it backwards than forward. And why 1389 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: would you ever yield to let someone do it backwards 1390 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: because we know the next president will be lucky to 1391 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: get shipped back to where Obama had it if it's 1392 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: not Trump. So I don't know, like, I just don't 1393 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: think these people are living in the reality. And I 1394 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things, like I said with 1395 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Asimonajen social media, and like how much of it has 1396 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: become like we create our own reality. That's one of 1397 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: the bad things about it is because oh the people 1398 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,480 Speaker 1: that don't be on social media like that Stacey Abrams 1399 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: and we'll be goldver. We're both like, dog, that's not 1400 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 1: realistic or good. What you said is the pathway that 1401 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: more destruction, not nothing positive will come from that anyway. Yeah, 1402 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: don't keep that saving because I've plaed Pelosi ripped that 1403 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: shit at that State of the Union. She's fed up 1404 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and I fed up with her. These fuckers on the 1405 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: left should be as well. What I guess, good in 1406 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 1: the viral hit on social media is more important to 1407 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: stop it. Evil shit is tiring, y'all. Yeah, I feel you, man. 1408 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, I didn't even like go up for that, 1409 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,680 Speaker 1: like her ripping the speech, because I didn't watch the 1410 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: fucking thing. But when I saw it, I was like, yeah, 1411 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: because she's fighting him with she's fighting him in the 1412 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: place he likes to fight optics, in the place that 1413 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: he can't ignore up into his own speech and all 1414 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: the lives and shit, you know, And and the fact 1415 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: that people were more mad at her than a nigga 1416 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,839 Speaker 1: that stood up there for an hour and a half. 1417 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,839 Speaker 1: Lyon is that current president of the fucking United States 1418 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: was weird to me? Right, But you say, but if 1419 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: you say that, you're caping for the establishment and all 1420 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,759 Speaker 1: this shit. So anyway, the poet who won, Nicki Minaj, 1421 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: might meet Mill or is cam calls and meat meals. 1422 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 2: Neither everybody's a loser. 1423 01:11:52,840 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, the polls Nicki Minaj or meat Meal, I don't 1424 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 1: want to vote. What is happening today? Lord Jesus Meek 1425 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: Mill seventy two percent, Nigma no iag twenty eight percent. 1426 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Poncholl says a lot of celebrities probably assholes, but you 1427 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 1: don't really know because it's behind closed doors. But her 1428 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: intentions are public. And if my brother got caught in 1429 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the underage sexual assault charge and my husband, uh and 1430 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 1: I would jumble humble myself, but she did and the 1431 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: niggas pull that big joke on her ass. Yeah. I mean, 1432 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: you like to think you would humble yourself, but then 1433 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be Nigga Naj. You know, how did she 1434 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: get to what she is? Correct not by being quiet 1435 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: and humble like nigga out there like fuck this shit, y'all. 1436 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Nigga's gonna y'all, y'all gonna leave me and my brother 1437 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: alone or whatever. Anyway I did, I agree with y'all. 1438 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I think she lost Live at the Library was the 1439 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 1: last episode, and I wonder if I should just read 1440 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: all the feedback next week. You know what, I'm gonna 1441 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: save it for next week. We got one comment and 1442 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: no one's voted in the poet at so let's let's 1443 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: give them a week to to like look at that. 1444 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: All right, what else do we have? We have voicemails, 1445 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: So let's see. We got the voicemail line seven oh 1446 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: four five five seven zero one eighty six. Just leave 1447 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: us a voicemail, make it two minutes or lesson you 1448 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 1: will get cut off seven oh four five five seven 1449 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: zero one eight six. And our first voicemail is from 1450 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: our girl Emon. Whenever Skype will go ahead and play 1451 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,560 Speaker 1: this shit, So. 1452 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 3: Hey, take care, marn so finding in Whispering. I'm actually 1453 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 3: at work, but I'm still super behind. I'm on the 1454 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,839 Speaker 3: episode twenty four, but when you're talking about Bendigarier Public 1455 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, oh my god, Yes, I don't 1456 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 3: understand why some of them can be so jinky why 1457 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 3: are y'all being so stubborn with sick Just realize it. 1458 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not a criminal, Okay. So I work 1459 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 3: at this corporation and there's actually, at the time, I 1460 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 3: didn't know there were two notaries here. I just thought 1461 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 3: that they were one. So my mother used to be 1462 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 3: a the CFOE and so she retired, and then there 1463 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 3: are some PaperWorks that she needs to sign, and then 1464 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 3: you're supposed to get it notarized. But of course I 1465 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 3: didn't want to cap oficate mailing things back and work 1466 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 3: between her. So I was just like, oh, hey, can 1467 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 3: you notarize this so I can just send it to 1468 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 3: her and then she can, you know, file it or 1469 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 3: whatever send it in where she's supposed to send it 1470 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 3: in too. And they were like, oh no, I don't 1471 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,600 Speaker 3: think so you know, it doesn't look right if I 1472 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 3: do that. And I'm like, she literally used to be 1473 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 3: your boss. Are you seriously now, I'm like okay, And 1474 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 3: so then I was all frustrated. And then the other 1475 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 3: woman who's the notary is a long time family friend 1476 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 3: and who's worked for the country a long time. I 1477 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 3: didn't know she was a notary. She's like she saw 1478 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 3: me looking all at frustrated. She's like, what's going on. 1479 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I went to old girl and 1480 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 3: asked a good resist and she said she couldn't do 1481 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 3: it because it was you signed. And she's like, girl, 1482 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 3: come here, come in my office. I'm in ordering too, 1483 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 3: Like oh great, oh my god, it wasn't you become 1484 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 3: another And she's like after your mother was like oh, 1485 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 3: it's like great. She's like yeah, I know. And then 1486 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 3: you still get the light side of Brad. She's like, 1487 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 3: you know how they are. I was like, oh, but yes, 1488 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 3: I don't know why they act like that. It's craziness. 1489 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 3: So I'm glad you guys you take a work thing. 1490 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Love you guys, Thank you, And yeah, I'm glad that 1491 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 1: we were ready to somebody who actually, you know, could 1492 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 1: understand the situation and be like, let's, uh, you know, 1493 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: let's look at this thing this way, as opposed to 1494 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: just being like I don't see a paint time here. 1495 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: And now I'm like, dog, you see what the form is, 1496 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 1: what the right? 1497 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 2: This is not this is from another state. And the 1498 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 2: man who told us to do it, he does this 1499 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 2: ship all the time. He would not ask you to 1500 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,839 Speaker 2: do something that wasn't really what they see. They wouldn't 1501 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,919 Speaker 2: suit you. You're not Friday, we would. 1502 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: Be they we're gonna it was gonna fill out the 1503 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 1: form and then we was gonna be like back then 1504 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: now putting it down undercover. Notary police, get on the ground, 1505 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: motherfuck up, get out of here. 1506 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 2: And why would he ask us to do something that 1507 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 2: was illegal when this is the ship he does all 1508 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 2: the time. He's a goddamn corner. 1509 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,719 Speaker 1: Looks like you're gonna be notarizing your signature in jail. 1510 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 1: All right, next one, Oh wait, is this a butt dow? 1511 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 1: It might be. It's two minutes long. Okay, all right, 1512 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 1: well yeah, thank you for your voicemails. Everybody, shout out 1513 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: to butts. Okay, all the big boot. 1514 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,759 Speaker 2: Is it down by accident? Shout out to you? 1515 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 1: You know what. It's probably from my Instagram page. Okay, 1516 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 1: I follow a lot of butts and maybe they heard 1517 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: about the podcast and said, oh, this person is in 1518 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: the butts let me give him a call and leave 1519 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,600 Speaker 1: two minutes voicemails to say hey, what's going on. You know, 1520 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you liking all my post and all of that, 1521 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 1: So thank you, bud. Okay, don't hesitate the call back. 1522 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, So we did all that stuff. The only 1523 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 1: thing left I believe is email. Because let's see, we 1524 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: did voicemails and comments, we did five star reviews, made 1525 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: fun of the one star review all I feel like, yeah, 1526 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 1: so let me check the old email machine over here. 1527 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh great, it's taking this fine loading. Well, let's just 1528 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 1: go to the website. I'm in to my phone and 1529 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 1: look at the emails there. Podcast emails, all right, so 1530 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 1: we did get a few this last week, Crystal. Oh wait, 1531 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 1: we already did this one about Uncle Tom history. Let's 1532 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:47,720 Speaker 1: go to the next one. All right, this one, let's 1533 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 1: see what was our last time? We did one? Twenty eight? 1534 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, this one is probably well not 1535 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: Justin's not here. Maybe it's better for the balls deep 1536 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, because it's about Kobe. All right, let's 1537 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: go to the next one. Ms. Martinkin says, hey, dear 1538 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 1: Karen and Rod, binging and catching up on some old 1539 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 1: feedback of episodes. I'm voting against your best interest. Now. 1540 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm a college graduated graduate. I didn't major in finance, 1541 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: so I'm losing in that area. When you were talking 1542 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 1: about canceling college that it hit me. My dumb ass 1543 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,719 Speaker 1: worked through college, but to pay for things like food 1544 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: to fix my Jilope my car, I ended up with 1545 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: a credit card debt during college. I wish I was 1546 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: smart enough to get a larger student loans so I 1547 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: could get in on that burning free student loan party. Ah, 1548 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 1: this does not help anyone else who didn't go to college. 1549 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: As you stated, I did have some loans, but I 1550 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: paid them off. That doesn't mean I don't want those 1551 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: who did get loans and are struggling to get rid 1552 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 1: of that. Also, I want to hire minimum way, so 1553 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily vote in my personal best interest. I 1554 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: have no kids, but I still vote in ways where 1555 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 1: taxes would go up, but I will help out the 1556 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 1: future generations. I know I'm not in the majority as 1557 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 1: a middle class person with no kids. I vote for 1558 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: those who are less fortunate than me because I don't 1559 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 1: see many options just for me. And I wouldn't do 1560 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: that because I'm blessed. Why would I want to hamper others? Anyway. 1561 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I say all that to say that I agreed that 1562 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: most people do vote in their interests except when the 1563 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 1: sisms are at play. Shit. Even then, if you think 1564 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,720 Speaker 1: it's in your interest, then the sisms is working for you. 1565 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I love the way Karen sounds so joyous when singing. 1566 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: She cannot be out joyed on singing that, and Rod 1567 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: is not is not to be out ad libs. Careen 1568 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 1: sounds full of joy, glee and bright shunshiny happiness, and 1569 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Rod sounds full of excitement for reading. And you can 1570 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: actually hear the thirst for knowledge in his vocal trills. 1571 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, doesn't kindwall of saying, Karen's a better, smart, 1572 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: better nicer singing than me. Sorry, sorry for your out loss, 1573 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,799 Speaker 1: Sorry for your lost Careen. And it's like a beautiful 1574 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,719 Speaker 1: service and a nice reunion for your family. 1575 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 2: He was. 1576 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: John writes in the Rise of Bernie, Dear Rod, you 1577 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: are absolutely right about the worst Bernie supporters, and the 1578 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,719 Speaker 1: only principle that they believe in is whether it's whatever's 1579 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: best for Bernie. I deal with them and organize, and 1580 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: they are a real headache. I've been thinking about the 1581 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: Rise of Bernie. I have two things that I'll be 1582 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 1: curious here, he takes on sure. The first is that 1583 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 1: I think one reason Bernie appeals to so many white 1584 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: progressors because he basically embodies their own fantasy image of themselves. 1585 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: They dream that if only people would get behind me, 1586 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I can solve everything because I have all the answers, 1587 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: and even better, I don't ever have to admit my flaws, 1588 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,679 Speaker 1: listen to other voices, or even try to make nice 1589 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: with other groups. It's sort of the impossible white man fantasy, 1590 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: which allows to ignore the ugly reflections of how hard 1591 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 1: it is to pass broad structural change to our system. Yeah. Sure, 1592 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's part of it. I think 1593 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,640 Speaker 1: also white progresses appeal to Bernie, but he appeals to 1594 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: them because that's the only people he really is trying 1595 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 1: to govern. For his messages to white people who are dissatisfied, 1596 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 1: and there happen to be other people who think, for 1597 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: political expediency it would be best to attach their boat 1598 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: to his, because they, you know, they're like, well, if 1599 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: he can get some of this stuff done, it doesn't 1600 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 1: really matter what he thinks about race or what his 1601 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 1: connections to our community is. If he can get some 1602 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 1: of these things done, then maybe we can still benefit 1603 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: from them. And I'm not necessarily against those people. I 1604 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: just wish they stopped being so full of shit about it. 1605 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 1: I just wish they'd be honest and be like, I 1606 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 1: don't really fuck with this dude like that either. But 1607 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 1: I think he I think his policies are better. I 1608 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable point of view. I think once 1609 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 1: you get to this point where if you wanna, if 1610 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna support him, then you have to support If 1611 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,720 Speaker 1: he fucking farts in someone's face, you gotta support it, 1612 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of crazy, and I'm in a 1613 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: way it just reminds me the populism that elected Trump. 1614 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 1: They feel like the liberal version of Trump, even from 1615 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 1: the coming outside of the party thing, even through the 1616 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: not concerned about anyone else coming up in the party 1617 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 1: unless they totally dedicate themselves to him. I don't think 1618 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 1: that's good. I think ultimately we will be harmed by that. 1619 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think these movements that people think are 1620 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 1: gonna be created are gonna happen. And what's gonna end 1621 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: up happening is if he wins everything, he doesn't get 1622 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 1: past because he didn't build any bridges, he didn't build 1623 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: any community with certain people and certain politicians. This just 1624 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: gonna turn into everyone going, why won't they just do 1625 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 1: what Bernie is and the Democrats are the real problem, 1626 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: and it's gonna go right back to Republicans. That's my guess. Yes, sir, 1627 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, but I mean showing me where 1628 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,639 Speaker 1: this dude really builds community with anybody people the most. 1629 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 1: The reason most people were mad at Hillary Clinton was 1630 01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: because the shit was true. 1631 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Come on. 1632 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 1: That's why they were like, don't insert yourself into this 1633 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: because they couldn't really argue that it wasn't true. They 1634 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,639 Speaker 1: could only argue that they didn't want her to. 1635 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 2: Bring it up right right. 1636 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Secondly, while it's conventionalism at this point to note that 1637 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 1: the rise of Trump was a white wives response to 1638 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Obama's presidency, I'm starting to feel like Bernie was too. 1639 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: Starting twenty sixteen. Who he was? So many white Bernie 1640 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 1: fans show open content for Obama wanted to primary him. 1641 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 1: Use identity politics as a pejorative. Yeah, I heard black 1642 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 1: Bernie supporters say identity politics as a pejorative, and I 1643 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: honestly like my mind exploded. I was just like, black 1644 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 1: people can do that. What are you talking about. We're black, 1645 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 1: We're supposed to understand there's no such thing as identity politics. 1646 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 2: Because you use that where they don't want to talk 1647 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 2: about the shit did affects you? 1648 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you don't want to talk about the truth, 1649 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: this wasn't they use it because you're black? You know 1650 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: what people mean. So when someone goes listen as a 1651 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: black woman, blah blad, you go, we don't need your 1652 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: identity politics, I'm like, what do you do? Crazy to me? Really? 1653 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 1: But they love that man that much. So yeah, it's 1654 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,719 Speaker 1: like a weird badge of honored for them to bash 1655 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Obama or tell how much they didn't like him. Whenever 1656 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 1: his name comes up. It is And I think that 1657 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 1: is a huge reaction in part to the fact that 1658 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: he was black. And I will never be not convinced 1659 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: of that. I even had one whisper to me, I 1660 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: was never a fan myself when Obama was mentioned at 1661 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 1: an event co sponsored by Way for our local NAACP. Yeah, 1662 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: they can't help themselves. I could do. All I could 1663 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,799 Speaker 1: do is roll my eyes almost out of my skull. 1664 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 1: They want so bad for Bernie to be another Obama, 1665 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 1: and I think it kills him that he isn't and 1666 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,840 Speaker 1: likely never will be. I agree, they really think he 1667 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 1: wants He's this charismatic dude, and it's just not resonating 1668 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 1: with everybody, and they don't really have the numbers to 1669 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: back up some of the shit they be talking. So anyway, 1670 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes through the South PS. I 1671 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 1: want to offer my deepest belated condolences to the main 1672 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 1: host Care for your loss. 1673 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1674 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I lost my mom in twenty twelve and it was 1675 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 1: so hard, even though we didn't have the best relationship. Anyways, 1676 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 1: I wish you all the best in navigating the difficult 1677 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: grieving process. Sorry for such a rambling email, chairs John, 1678 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, John. My girl, Katanya says Blacks 1679 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 1: for Taylor Swift, I'm number six. 1680 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 2: Ay a whole sixty hours. 1681 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Let's shake it off together, girl. I hope you had 1682 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 1: a great weekend. As always, thank you for the amazing 1683 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 1: podcast this week. Roder just wanted to stop by and 1684 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 1: let you know you are not alone in your fanom 1685 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 1: of t I've been a fan of her since her 1686 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,759 Speaker 1: first song tail Drops on my guitar. It totally speaks 1687 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: to the space that I found myself in with God, 1688 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 1: friends and my teens and twenties. I wanted to be 1689 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: number five on the list. However, since I was not 1690 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,120 Speaker 1: watching live the live cast. I couldn't claim the spot. 1691 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: He he yes, I know she could be problematic. However, 1692 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 1: she is human, she is learning and changing, and I 1693 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,799 Speaker 1: think she catches flag from some white women and people 1694 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 1: of color for her confidence in different ways. Yeah, I 1695 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,640 Speaker 1: just never understood. And I remember we had a whole episodehere, 1696 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,479 Speaker 1: we really went through it, and I was reading about 1697 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: some of these things that people were like, this is 1698 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 1: the thing that made me say she's terrible, and I 1699 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 1: was like, these are not bad things. M M, like 1700 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it again, but just in general, 1701 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm just like, y'all are really tripping. And this is, 1702 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 1: like I said, this is where it really cautions me 1703 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 1: off of social media and off of these groups and 1704 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 1: off of these people, you know, because some of these people, 1705 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, they might even be our fans. And I 1706 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,800 Speaker 1: have to be careful to be like, I don't want 1707 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 1: to be too close to you, because I'm one thing 1708 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,680 Speaker 1: away from you thinking this shit is cool to do 1709 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: to me. 1710 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 2: You know, people don't think when they say things down 1711 01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,959 Speaker 2: and open that people aren't picking up on the context 1712 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 2: clues of what you're saying. And I'll go, oh, this 1713 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 2: anger and this vistoral reaction can be directed towards me. 1714 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 1: Basically, if there's enough group things, then it's right. 1715 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Correct, and I don't. 1716 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't like that shit, you know what I mean. 1717 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I like everybody, I love every I don't. 1718 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not trying to base 1719 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: all this shit off of Oh, so we so we 1720 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: roasting so and so. Okay, well then I'm gonna let 1721 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: me go ahead and add to this when I'm like, 1722 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't actually feel this way, you know so. And 1723 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,759 Speaker 1: it's not always jokes and shit. So I've had people 1724 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: like literally no joke. I've had people that their hatred 1725 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 1: for a celebrity or specific person was so bad I 1726 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,760 Speaker 1: just stopped fucking with them, right because they couldn't see 1727 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: it themselves because they're so deep into it. But like, 1728 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: it's warped everything you think about. You see this person's name, 1729 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: and it could be like so and So's mom died, 1730 01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be somewhere on Facebook or Twitter talking 1731 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: shit about them. That's not and maybe it's healthy or 1732 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 1: okay for you, it's not for me, and I don't 1733 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,639 Speaker 1: want you around me. I don't like that energy because 1734 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 1: something something when you can lose your empathy. This is 1735 01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,679 Speaker 1: the shit that like this thing with Gail King, right, 1736 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 1: the reason I didn't say shit when she asked that 1737 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: question of Lisa Leslie. And we'll probably talk about it 1738 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 1: either on Balls Deep or on the regular show. But 1739 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really have a problem with her asking that 1740 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 1: question because it's kind of her brand. I saw the 1741 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: whole interview, the five or six minutes of it all. 1742 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 1: We talked about it on Boss Deep already. Yeah, I 1743 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: don't even have to talk about it. Go premium if 1744 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 1: you don't. Oh no, already. But we talked about it, 1745 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,639 Speaker 1: and I was like, within the context of the interview, 1746 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 1: which aired days ago, no one had a problem with it. 1747 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,360 Speaker 1: Take a clip out, put it on Twitter where context 1748 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:39,920 Speaker 1: goes to die. Everybody want her everybody wants her head. Okay, cool, cool, cool. 1749 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 1: You didn't like it, you felt it, you felt it 1750 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: was inappropriate. Now I didn't in the context of four 1751 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: minutes of them talking about how great this man was 1752 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 1: for women's sports and one minute of them having to 1753 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 1: be like, but we do have to bring up this 1754 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 1: other part because it would be extremely irresponsible and I 1755 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: would get dragged to smithereens if I didn't if I 1756 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: lionized this man in his contribution to women's sports and 1757 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: then turned around and said, what sexual assault? I forgot 1758 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 1: about it. You're gonna either way, she was gonna get roasty. 1759 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: But people felt it was in poor taste when they 1760 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 1: saw that clip on social media. Totally fine, I get it. 1761 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,759 Speaker 1: You don't have to like it. You know, shit people 1762 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: people might have felt the r. Kelly interview was in 1763 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 1: poor taste. People might feel, you know, some of the 1764 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,320 Speaker 1: other things she did was fine. I don't find the 1765 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,840 Speaker 1: thing that was interesting was once the turn started and 1766 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: you got the Free Cosby delegation coming in talking about 1767 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,880 Speaker 1: her and Oprah Winfrey hate black men and they don't 1768 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 1: keep the same energy with white sexual abusers and Free 1769 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Cosby and you know, Free r Kelly and calling her 1770 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 1: a bitch and threatening her. That's Snoop Dogg y'all's favorite 1771 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 1: gospel album of the year telling you that shit. So 1772 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: when this when these motherfuckers come out of the woodworks, 1773 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 1: and now you got the goddamn hotel black women haters 1774 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 1: well along with the folks who just loved Obie, but 1775 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 1: they trying to make an exception for Kobe in a 1776 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 1: way they never do for anyone else's legacy because they 1777 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: happen to like that. Man, now you got all this 1778 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: fucking like perfect storm of hatred and they single out 1779 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 1: of target in Gail King. And I saw someone say 1780 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,040 Speaker 1: something and I'm not even sure they meant it in 1781 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 1: a mean way, but I did see someone say something 1782 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: to the effect of life. Y'all really think this is 1783 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,800 Speaker 1: bothering Gail King? Blahlah blah. But Oprah was went on 1784 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,360 Speaker 1: TV and was fucking in tears like Gail is. Gail 1785 01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,040 Speaker 1: is very sad. She doesn't feel safe right now. She 1786 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 1: had to hire security. She's just trying to stay off 1787 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the internet, stay away, blah blah blah. Right, And I'm 1788 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,160 Speaker 1: sitting there looking at that shit, and I was thinking 1789 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,400 Speaker 1: to myself, people don't want me to think Gail King 1790 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 1: has feelings because she's rich and they're mad at her. 1791 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Correct And you know who else does that. It's textbook narcissism. 1792 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 1: Narcissists tell you that the person they're harassing either doesn't 1793 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 1: have feeling or they deserve to be tormented. And what 1794 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,679 Speaker 1: flying monkeys do AKA the rest of the fucking Internet 1795 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 1: that hopped on this shit is that they pile on 1796 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: and they go, I agree with you. I have no 1797 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 1: empathy for this person. So you have to believe Gail 1798 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 1: King has no feelings. You have to believe she's completely 1799 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: evil and vow and everything she does is a plot 1800 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: against you. And that's why the fuck she needs to 1801 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,960 Speaker 1: be destroyed and taken down. And it doesn't matter if 1802 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: she fucking needs security or gets suicidal or sad, none 1803 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,720 Speaker 1: of it fucking matters, because at the end of the day, 1804 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 1: the only thing that matters is how you feel, and 1805 01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: the narcissists feel and the feeling that y'all get from 1806 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 1: combining and pushing down on this person. And in this case, 1807 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: which is one of the things I'm avoiding really talking 1808 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,920 Speaker 1: to people because it's just not a healthy environment. But 1809 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 1: in this case, we have now turned weaponized privilege into 1810 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,040 Speaker 1: we can now harass you, and I don't think that's good. 1811 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 1: So it's like, well, if I can find the place 1812 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 1: but this person is privileged, then I can then bully, harassed, threaten. 1813 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,639 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want to this person as 1814 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 1: long as I can convince people that this person is 1815 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote above me on the hierarchy. So she's rich, Okay, cool, cool, cool. 1816 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 1: Now I can say extremely mean, fucked up shit about them. 1817 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 1: What did that woman say when they talked about Blue 1818 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 1: Ivy looking like her daddy and all the shit. The 1819 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 1: first thing that white woman brought up was the same 1820 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: thing most of these woke niggas bring up when they 1821 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 1: got something bad to say about the Carters. They're rich, 1822 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 1: so I can talk about how their daughter looks because 1823 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 1: they're rich. But Beyonce, we don't know that Beyonce got 1824 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,599 Speaker 1: any type of surgery on her face and anything. And 1825 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,320 Speaker 1: she's like, well, you know the celebrity daughters, they always 1826 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: get surgery on their face. Look at the Kardashians, and 1827 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 1: you know what she brought the Kardashians Why because y'all 1828 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 1: talk about them badly and it's okay you can say 1829 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:53,360 Speaker 1: anything mean about them because we're convinced they're not real people. 1830 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,559 Speaker 1: They don't have feelings. Nothing they do can be right. 1831 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 1: If somebody dies in their failure, there's a tragedy, we 1832 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 1: turn it into like an attack us somehow, Like it's 1833 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:07,479 Speaker 1: become so dehumanizing in that environment, sir, that I reject 1834 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the entire fucking environment and I don't want to participate 1835 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: in it. So and I recognize it can easily be 1836 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: any of us, right easily, you know. So that's the 1837 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,760 Speaker 1: thing that that that it made me kept coming back to, 1838 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 1: And that's what I think happened with Taylor Swift. It's 1839 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 1: just so out of control now that even when she 1840 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: finally gives you a glimpse of behind the scenes, which 1841 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know one of our faves did. You may 1842 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 1: know her name is Beyonce, Mirror Beyonce. Don't tell us 1843 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 1: shit unless it's sold. Hey, you want to know what 1844 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I think about this thing, check out my HBO documentary, you. 1845 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Know how, check out my next Flix documentary. Right. 1846 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:48,559 Speaker 1: You want to know how it feels to be me, 1847 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 1: check out Homecoming? Right. And so Taylor Swift essentially did 1848 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 1: the same thing, and we're sitting up here being like, no, 1849 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,599 Speaker 1: that has to be fake. Her feelings can't be real. No, 1850 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 1: she couldn't have really cried. I mean, she's still up 1851 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 1: to a father. But what she really should have did 1852 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 1: is just because we can't let her be human too. 1853 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: We can't let this twenty nine year old I guess 1854 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,479 Speaker 1: probably thirty now. We can't let her go through the 1855 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,360 Speaker 1: same process we allowed for other people in our group 1856 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 1: because we have empathy and sympathy for our own group. 1857 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: But you know what that empathy and sympathy really is. 1858 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,600 Speaker 1: It's our own miiopic narcissism. It's us extending ourselves to 1859 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 1: other people. It's not really true empathy. It's us being like, well, 1860 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,160 Speaker 1: i'm a black woman, so this black woman, I'm gonna 1861 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 1: identify with her and defend But if that person was 1862 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 1: a black man, I'm not gonna defend him. If that 1863 01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 1: person was a white person, I'm not gonna defend him. 1864 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: The situation could be just as fucked up, just as wrong, 1865 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,360 Speaker 1: But in that case, I'm gonna pull my empathy back. 1866 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,839 Speaker 1: I understand why people do that, right, the protective impost, 1867 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 1: the idea that people you know, or that these people 1868 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,360 Speaker 1: might not extend it back to me. I get that, 1869 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 1: but I don't want to participate in that because I 1870 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,080 Speaker 1: feel like that's not true to my own values. If 1871 01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 1: I see something fucked up, I'm gonna like that's fucked up, 1872 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 1: no matter what's happening to agreed, you know what I mean. 1873 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,479 Speaker 1: And if I can't say that, then I'm gonna let 1874 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,800 Speaker 1: you know that too. I'm gonna be like, dog, I 1875 01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 1: know it's fucked right, Rush Limball got the cancer. Bruh. 1876 01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I really ain't got nothing for him, you know what 1877 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. At least be honest about it rather than 1878 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 1: couching it in some woke ass Olympics. Why it's okay 1879 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: this time, but when it's somebody else later on, it's 1880 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,879 Speaker 1: not okay. Like no, let's just be real anyway. 1881 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:25,639 Speaker 2: Uh. 1882 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: For some people of cold, I think Taylor's confidence and 1883 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,759 Speaker 1: advocated for herself, for example when she was just starting 1884 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,920 Speaker 1: out and her mom drove her to various record companies. 1885 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,080 Speaker 1: The same for the receptionists to get a meeting with 1886 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,640 Speaker 1: an executive and her missteps and then inserting herself in 1887 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,559 Speaker 1: the moments, or she does a Malone iu. When Nicki 1888 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Minaj went on a twinter rat about the VMAs and 1889 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 1: how it didn't recognize women of color, man has that? 1890 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,599 Speaker 1: Has that not come back? 1891 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 2: There? 1892 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 1: I remember being like Nikki, yes girl, and then now like, 1893 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,080 Speaker 1: oh Nikki, you know men, when we love Nikki y'all 1894 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,840 Speaker 1: for a little bit, everybody was she had just got 1895 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,360 Speaker 1: the black girl hair, stopped dressing like an anime character, 1896 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 1: start rapping. Man, I miss that that time. Now now 1897 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 1: it's like I'll be trying to go back. But then 1898 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,600 Speaker 1: like every other week, she have a tweet that be like, 1899 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,719 Speaker 1: and it's okay to rape little children if it's your brother. 1900 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,639 Speaker 2: Fuck y'all. 1901 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: Anyway, roll as a park like no, oh god, anyway, 1902 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 1: I missed that, NIGGI. But yeah, I agree. I agree 1903 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 1: with NIGGI that it wasn't It wasn't Taylor's place to talk. 1904 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,640 Speaker 1: And just like most white people, she gets good to 1905 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,320 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. It strikes them as white privilege 1906 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,400 Speaker 1: and they just dismiss her because they think she can't 1907 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,559 Speaker 1: overcome that, so they just dismiss her and her music hotel. Yeah, 1908 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,920 Speaker 1: and I know she did apologize, but nobody accepts apologies 1909 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,000 Speaker 1: on internetize. Yeah, but I get it. No, Like it's 1910 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the Internet that's not really a place for her accepting 1911 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,519 Speaker 1: apologies a correct place for keeping grievances. Since Taylor's come out, 1912 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: I think she's grown and changed and she's learned more information. 1913 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: I think that people just don't have the patience with 1914 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,799 Speaker 1: her and allow her to space to grow and present 1915 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,720 Speaker 1: her views what she he's ready ie her political views. Anyways, 1916 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,640 Speaker 1: just want to let you know that you're not the 1917 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: only black person out there it was a fan of 1918 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,400 Speaker 1: tay Ta. Have a great rest of your weekend. Love 1919 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:13,840 Speaker 1: you best, Kaitanya aka the Thick Ballerina, thank you, thank you. 1920 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 1: And lastly, I think this is the last one Beth 1921 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,400 Speaker 1: says anything for Bernie. Dear Roddy Karen. I hope this 1922 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 1: doesn't reach you too late. I missed the blackout took 1923 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 1: this week, and I had assumed that Kobe's passing that 1924 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:27,040 Speaker 1: affected you both deeply. I even thought to myself, so dignified, 1925 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,200 Speaker 1: But you, clever Claus, just waiting for the hot takes 1926 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 1: to die down. How dignified? I thought the Super Bowl 1927 01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 1: half time show was spectaclear. I grew up listening to 1928 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,040 Speaker 1: both Jaylo and Shakira, and they did not disappoint the 1929 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,479 Speaker 1: ton of things. Shakira did exist in some variation in 1930 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 1: most indigenous cultures in North and East Africa. It is 1931 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:48,840 Speaker 1: called auhlation. I hope I said that right eululation in 1932 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,720 Speaker 1: Arabic culture is called a zach grolta. You are not 1933 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,600 Speaker 1: supposed to stick your tongue out. I believe Shaku, my 1934 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,479 Speaker 1: nickname for Shakira, did it to be playful and provocative 1935 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 1: and for the sake of showmanship. Anyway, I could talk 1936 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,280 Speaker 1: about the show endlessly. It feel me with so much life. 1937 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Wishing you both the best, all my love, betht ps. 1938 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 1: I was fun to your Walking Dare response, but I 1939 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,559 Speaker 1: think it might have gotten lost in the flurial activity. 1940 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what walking their response. I don't remember PPS. 1941 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of love. I was last week years old when 1942 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,360 Speaker 1: I learned that learned your I Love you at the 1943 01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,640 Speaker 1: end of each episode was to each other and not 1944 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 1: the audience. Yeah, I don't know, y'all niggas. All right, y'all, 1945 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, you gotta know somebody to love them. You know, 1946 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,000 Speaker 1: no offense, but you know, I don't like to just 1947 01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:43,080 Speaker 1: say that, you know, without meaning it or without knowing 1948 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,360 Speaker 1: the person. So all right, y'all until next time. Before 1949 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,400 Speaker 1: we go, parent would like to say something. I know 1950 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,360 Speaker 1: we got a few more minutes. 1951 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,640 Speaker 2: I know we talked about the library thing, but we 1952 01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,839 Speaker 2: actually had a ball at the library, and I would 1953 01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,639 Speaker 2: encourage everybody to use the resources at your local library. 1954 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,840 Speaker 2: Go find find out what they're doing. And also for 1955 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 2: those of you don't know, you can also get digital 1956 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 2: library cards. So for those of you that actually don't 1957 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,920 Speaker 2: want to physically go to the library. You can actually 1958 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,120 Speaker 2: log onto whatever your local library site is in your 1959 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 2: county or state or whatever and actually get virtual library cards. 1960 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 2: Now you don't have to do physical books. They actually 1961 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 2: do e books and they also actually do audio books, 1962 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,600 Speaker 2: just so y'all know too. So I'm very thankful, and 1963 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 2: I'm very grateful, and I can't thank Alicia enough. And 1964 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 2: it was very educational, and I hope y'all utilize these 1965 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 2: tuesdays your tax money is paying for. And shout out 1966 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 2: to all the fans that was there that that meant 1967 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 2: a lot, that everybody came and loved and supported us. 1968 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we got to take selviies with people. Man. 1969 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: One person was in. 1970 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 2: Tears, like and we thank you sweet. 1971 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1972 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 1: It was so nice. And she was like, oh, I 1973 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,760 Speaker 1: get She was like, you know, you're supposed to give 1974 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 1: someone like a coconut cake after someone like passes or something. 1975 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: And she was like, well, I don't know if y'all 1976 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,679 Speaker 1: want food from strangers. So she was like, here's twenty dollars, 1977 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,880 Speaker 1: go get you some cake. I was like, you know what, 1978 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 1: we can get some cake. We don't get some cake, 1979 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,040 Speaker 1: we'll take care of the cake. I thank you so 1980 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,240 Speaker 1: much for even thinking about us, baby, But yeah, it 1981 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,840 Speaker 1: was really dope and we had a great time. The 1982 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 1: room was really warm. We answer the questions from the audience. 1983 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,600 Speaker 1: We got to meet so many people in our local community, 1984 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, man, support your local library. And also like, 1985 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,760 Speaker 1: don't you know, I hope we educated people about resources. 1986 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: I hope people come away from that being like, Okay, 1987 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,320 Speaker 1: here's some some things I can do here. I didn't 1988 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 1: even know about some of that stuff. And like I said, man, 1989 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,719 Speaker 1: we just had the best fucking fans in the world. 1990 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 1: Have to even have people come out to a library 1991 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 1: on a Saturday, because I was like, I was actually 1992 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,200 Speaker 1: surprised people showed up and then somebody was like wow, 1993 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know, it just felt like, 1994 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, always people. I would have still been just 1995 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,080 Speaker 1: as happy because I would have been like, hoh shit 1996 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 1: four people, like that's just my expectations for things. But uh, 1997 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 1: it was. It's really blessing. 1998 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 3: Man. 1999 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,879 Speaker 1: Our fans are such good representatives man, Like that's funny. 2000 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: They're engaging. Yes, they're polite, like we didn't have to 2001 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 1: give any instructions. Can you can you please be quiet 2002 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,599 Speaker 1: in the back? Like nah, Our people are so fucking dope. 2003 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: So it's just every time I have i'll see our fans. 2004 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm always like reminded and affirmed, like, Yo, we're valuable 2005 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 1: what we do. If our fans are a reflection of us, 2006 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 1: then what we do we're doing the right thing because 2007 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 1: these are the values that I uphold, and you see 2008 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,720 Speaker 1: it in our fans. So all right, y'all, we'll talk 2009 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,439 Speaker 1: to y'all next time. Until then, Karen 2010 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I love you, nah dn Sh'allkul too,