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Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, August fifth, twenty twenty five, season twenty one,

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Speaker 6: episode number twenty. Welcome to the latest edition of The

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Speaker 6: breakwill live from Oxnard, California. I don't even know what

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Speaker 6: we're more than halfway through. I know that this is

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Speaker 6: next to the last episode that we will do here

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Speaker 6: live from Camp on The Break. We got to show

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Speaker 6: again on Thursday, and then I know most of my crew,

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Speaker 6: shows back in Dallas on Monday and Wednesday of next week.

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Speaker 6: So this is our next to last show we'll do

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Speaker 6: out here in knox Start and I get to be

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Speaker 6: joined by two people I really respect that are doing

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Speaker 6: an awesome job covering this team throughout training camp. We've

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Speaker 6: got Tommy yarsh and we've got Nick Harris.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show, guys.

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Speaker 3: Gus appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: So it's gonna be back an old stopping grounds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick's been doing other things, but he always stays

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Speaker 6: out today not feeling great.

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Speaker 4: But that being said, where I want to start.

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Speaker 6: We haven't you have obviously hadn't been on the air

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Speaker 6: with us throughout camp, but our show hasn't actually happened

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Speaker 6: since everything started with the whole Micah requesting a trade,

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Speaker 6: And so we're gonna spend a little time talking about

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Speaker 6: you guys about your your level of concern with regards

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Speaker 6: to a lot of different things that are floating around this.

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Speaker 6: I want to start first though with obviously Michael makes

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Speaker 6: The first one was he said, this is a negotiation.

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Speaker 6: Does it blow me up? Somebody asked, look trade me.

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Speaker 6: That's just not a flare sign for me at all

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Speaker 6: on Jerry's response, and you guys were both there when

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Speaker 7: Yeah, mostly calculated for sure, and rightfully so. He sees

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: I think the key point from Jerry's rhetoric on Saturday

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Speaker 7: So you saw the maneuvering, and you saw the calculated

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Speaker 8: As well, and at the term points that he wants too, right.

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Speaker 8: I think that's an important part to consider in all this.

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Speaker 8: But look, I don't think there is a high level

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Speaker 3: To ask for the agent to get involved.

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Speaker 8: I think because it is such a high price tag

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Speaker 7: My question is if they both had a resemblance of

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Speaker 7: And that's that's my question I've had throughout this whole instance.

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Speaker 7: You know, when he does have that conversation with David,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 7: The question I have is why didn't he call the

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Speaker 6: The part I'm a little confused done because the way

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Speaker 6: Jerry says that they that they did have an agreement

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Speaker 6: Maybe the timing is not right for us to do

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Speaker 4: Jerry says they took the deal off the table.

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Speaker 6: So that's where I'm a little confused on what exactly

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Speaker 8: I think it might be because sorry, I'm gonna cut you off.

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Speaker 8: It might be just because David Mulligetta looks at the

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Speaker 8: And they've made it clear that they were waiting for

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Speaker 6: If that's the case, that doesn't match up with what

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Speaker 7: I will say one thing about the MICA's statement. There

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Speaker 7: some comments being made by both sides that could benefit

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Speaker 7: But the facts are really hard to come by in

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you did it with Tommy when he came

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Speaker 4: Aren't the only team dealing with it in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think it's I think it's a product

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're going to take a break.

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Speaker 6: When we come back, I actually want to take this

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Speaker 6: Star California. We're talking a little bit of Cowboys football here.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about Michael Parsons and the contract, and I

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Speaker 3: One. I think he's going to be a cowboy. I

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Speaker 7: It's still pretty low, but you know, leaving some room

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Speaker 7: it's not a bluff.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: Is it a bluff to get the negotiation and started,

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Speaker 6: Now, when you say, when you say his his, is

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Speaker 6: How do you how do you think that reconciles itself?

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Speaker 3: Forty million dollars makes conversations a lot more fun.

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Speaker 7: I don't think necessarily so. But given Michael Parsons and

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Speaker 3: That's just me though, Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: And typically you wouldn't expect to hear it while players

442
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Speaker 6: here because obviously he's still here. But you would think

443
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Speaker 6: after they retire, after they move on to another team,

444
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 6: you would hear those things. And it's just very very

445
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Speaker 6: rare you hear that.

446
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Speaker 8: I think the Cowboys organization as a whole, and it

447
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,119
Speaker 8: starts with the Jones family, has a really good reputation

448
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Speaker 8: of taking care of their guys. And being there for

449
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 8: their guys and having each other's backs. And you know,

450
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Speaker 8: you look at some of the deals that they've negotiated

451
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Speaker 8: here recently, CD and Dak and Trayvon Diggs. I mean,

452
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Speaker 8: when you're getting life changing money like that, and sometimes

453
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Speaker 8: when Jerry Jones pays a little bit more than what's

454
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Speaker 8: already at the top of the market, then you know

455
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Speaker 8: that's something you appreciate. And like I said, forty plus

456
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 8: million dollars makes anybody happy, right, Those conversations get a

457
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Speaker 8: lot easier, and it's a lot easier to build back

458
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Speaker 8: up and to positive spirits and to build back up

459
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Speaker 8: into a positive relationship. So you know, you give them

460
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Speaker 8: credit for that. Look, they take care of their guys.

461
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Speaker 8: And Jerry Jones said it the other day. You know

462
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Speaker 8: he's not afraid to make large financial commitments and reward

463
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Speaker 8: his players for performing well. And so I think, you know,

464
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Speaker 8: guys from the past and the present appreciate that. And

465
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Speaker 8: not to say that there's other ways.

466
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Speaker 3: You can handle it.

467
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Speaker 8: I think that there are a lot of situations where

468
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Speaker 8: they can handle these negotiations differently, but at the end

469
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Speaker 8: of the day, getting their deals done and having their

470
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Speaker 8: best interests in mind is something that I think the

471
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Speaker 8: Cowboys do for the most part pretty well.

472
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Speaker 4: Let's move on.

473
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Speaker 6: On a scale of one to ten, how concerned are

474
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Speaker 6: you about how this affects other players in the locker room.

475
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Speaker 7: I give that about a two. I think there's a

476
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Speaker 7: lot of support in that locker room where I know

477
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Speaker 7: there's a lot of support for in that locker room

478
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Speaker 7: for Michael Parsons, And you know, if there was not

479
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Speaker 7: support for the players, and I might have a little

480
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Speaker 7: bit more concern.

481
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Speaker 1: Now.

482
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Speaker 7: Granted, Micah has taken a step forward in leadership, but

483
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Speaker 7: I don't think it's necessarily been received one by the

484
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Speaker 7: locker room. I'm not saying that necessarily, but I think

485
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Speaker 7: there are enough get in his corner in that locker

486
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Speaker 7: room that want to see him come out on top

487
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Speaker 7: of this situation that I don't see it affecting the

488
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Speaker 7: team at the end of the day. And I think

489
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Speaker 7: I think Brian Shawn Humer's doone a really good job

490
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Speaker 7: of managing this first crisis that he's had to deal with.

491
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Speaker 7: It's a lot of adversity to battle in your first

492
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Speaker 7: training camp, and I think the culture emphasis that he

493
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Speaker 7: really put on in the offseason you're starting to see

494
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Speaker 7: the benefits of that now here in this situation.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd go with too as well.

496
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Speaker 8: You know, you look at the other day when all

497
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Speaker 8: this was coming out, and guys are changing their profile

498
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Speaker 8: pictures on social media to pictures of Michael Parsons. They've

499
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Speaker 8: got his back, And you know, leadership is different with

500
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Speaker 8: every player. I don't think Mike is necessarily going to

501
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Speaker 8: be a raw, raw leader all the time. I think

502
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Speaker 8: that he's got a unique sense of leadership and he

503
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Speaker 8: might not be the best leader on the defense, but

504
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Speaker 8: he's certainly one of, if not the best player. And

505
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Speaker 8: I think when you kind of lead, my example, like

506
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Speaker 8: he's done in the past, then naturally guys are going

507
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 8: to gravitate towards you, and other guys are going to

508
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 8: get opportunities because Michael Parsons is opening things up for them.

509
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Speaker 8: So ultimately, the locker room presence and how Nick's at

510
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Speaker 8: how much Brian Schoenheimer is emphasized culture and togetherness and bonding.

511
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Speaker 8: It's this is where you see it pay off, and

512
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Speaker 8: now we needed the question is does it pay off

513
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Speaker 8: on the field when things are tough, when guys are

514
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Speaker 8: are upset and guys are frustrated.

515
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Speaker 3: Is that when can they stay together when those things happen.

516
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Speaker 3: That's the next big question.

517
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Speaker 6: So then you guys both both mentioned Shoddy. My question

518
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Speaker 6: was gonna be on a scale of one to ten,

519
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Speaker 6: how much do you think this affects Shoddy and his

520
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Speaker 6: culture that he's trying to create.

521
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Speaker 4: I'll pivot that question a little bit.

522
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Speaker 6: Do you think the situation has actually helped or hurt

523
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Speaker 6: the culture that he's trying to build.

524
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Speaker 7: That's a good one. M I think I think there's

525
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Speaker 7: cases to be made for both sides. I can I

526
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Speaker 7: play that for a second. I think there is cases

527
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Speaker 7: being made for both sides. I'll say on the help side,

528
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Speaker 7: because you know, you see some guys rallying around Michael Parsons,

529
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Speaker 7: and you know that's definitely the culture he's trying to create.

530
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Speaker 7: But I think on the flip side, it's also creating

531
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Speaker 7: some individualism in the sense of Michael Parsons, because when

532
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Speaker 7: he comes out to practice, you know, everyone's looking at him,

533
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 7: everyone's seeing them, and everyone seen him not participate. So

534
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Speaker 7: it kind of tells all the other ninety guys in

535
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Speaker 7: the locker room like, hey, this is accepted, It's okay. Now,

536
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 7: granted it's Michael Parsons's a completely different situations. Denzel Dason

537
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 7: rolled out there with this hoodie on and no jersey

538
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Speaker 7: give fifty million. Yeah, he might be back at University

539
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 7: of Illinois next week. So I mean, it's it's good

540
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Speaker 7: with all, with all due respect to Denzel Decks and

541
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Speaker 7: he's had a great camp, But I think with I

542
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 7: think with with that, I mean, it definitely singles out guys,

543
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Speaker 7: and I don't think that's necessarily what Shatnhem's trying to build.

544
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know, to that point, I think it's not.

545
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 8: This isn't a situation unique to the Cowboys, right. I

546
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 8: think there's the star players around the league with every

547
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Speaker 8: team that can kind of do those things. I'm not

548
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Speaker 8: saying that that negates your point, but at the same time,

549
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Speaker 8: you know, these I think to deep down, these.

550
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Speaker 3: Guys know the business side of things, right.

551
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Speaker 8: And they and there's gonna be more support for him

552
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Speaker 8: in that sense, And I think there has been positive

553
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Speaker 8: support for Michael Parsons from this locker room in that sense.

554
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Speaker 3: I'm with Nick that you kind of it's it's a

555
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: little bit of both.

556
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Speaker 8: I lean more towards it's a positive thing just because

557
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Speaker 8: of how we've seen players around him. And you know

558
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 8: the other day when Jerry Jones is talking to the

559
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Speaker 8: media and he Michael Parsons and Trayvon Diggs run to

560
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Speaker 8: the crowd and fire him up as they're channing we

561
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 8: want Micah or pay Micah or whatever it was that

562
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 8: they were saying. You know, that's that signs of a

563
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Speaker 8: good thing, that signs of a good brotherhood. And Brian

564
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Speaker 8: Schottenheimer seems to love it. I know that's what he's

565
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 8: all about. And he's all about his guys showing up

566
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Speaker 8: for one another and being there for one another because

567
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 8: he tries to be there for them. So you know,

568
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Speaker 8: I think it's a it's in more ways than none,

569
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Speaker 8: a good thing for this locker room. But obviously it

570
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 8: would be even better if this got done.

571
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Speaker 6: All right, So now I'm gonna put you guys in

572
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Speaker 6: a position of trying to advise Micah and his group

573
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Speaker 6: and also advised Jerry. Let's start with Micah if you

574
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Speaker 6: could give him, okay, how you think this has to

575
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Speaker 6: play out going forward, What would you say is the

576
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Speaker 6: best case scenario for him and how he should handle

577
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Speaker 6: everything moving in the direction of trying to ultimately get

578
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Speaker 6: a deal.

579
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Speaker 7: Y'all are gonna hate this one, I feel like, but

580
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Speaker 7: if it gets to week one and there's no deal,

581
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Speaker 7: start holding out from games. I think that's that's probably

582
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 7: the best scenario because I think if he was holding

583
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Speaker 7: out from training camp, you probably see a little bit

584
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Speaker 7: more urgency. You wouldn't see as much traumatics. I think

585
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 7: that that have happened so far here in camp because

586
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 7: he's been here. You think back to last year, you

587
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 7: had both sides of the coin. You had CD holding

588
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Speaker 7: out and you had Dak that was here. Who got

589
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Speaker 7: the deal done first? Who had the less traumatics at

590
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Speaker 7: the end of the day. Well, I think there was

591
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Speaker 7: a case to be made that both sides had some dramatics.

592
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Speaker 7: But I think my advice to Mike A's side would be,

593
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Speaker 7: if there's not a deal by week one, hold out

594
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Speaker 7: from some games.

595
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Speaker 4: Let me real quick. Can I challenge you for a second?

596
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, if you hold out, there is potentially, like what

597
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Speaker 6: I read the other day, the Cowboys obviously have a

598
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 6: deal in place with him right now. So there is

599
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Speaker 6: a deal, and I'm talking about a new deal, I'm

600
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Speaker 6: talking about his current deal. In addition, to that the

601
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 6: Cowboys could feasibly put a franchise tag on him next year,

602
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Speaker 6: and feasibly put a franchise tag on him the year

603
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Speaker 6: after that. I think the total adapt from what I read,

604
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Speaker 6: was roughly somewhere around seventy five million dollars. So if

605
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Speaker 6: you're saying you're gonna miss games, are you comfable with

606
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Speaker 6: the idea that you might not play for as much

607
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 6: as three years and you will basically allow seventy five

608
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Speaker 6: million dollars to just go down the drain for it

609
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 6: for a long term deal.

610
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Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's where you start to fector in Okay,

611
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 7: does the longevity of a holdout really make sense? But

612
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Speaker 7: I think whenever you start stacking games and let's say

613
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 7: it's three games and the defense you know they're not

614
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Speaker 7: getting to the quarterback and you see the impact that

615
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 7: Michael Parson's not being there has had, then I think

616
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Speaker 7: that increases urgency on both sides. Now you know you're

617
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Speaker 7: playing you're a dangerous game. There, don't get ver dangerous

618
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 7: playing a dangerous game, But how much more dangerous would

619
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 7: it be if you go out there in Week one,

620
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Speaker 7: you don't have a deal and you tear your a

621
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Speaker 7: seal on the first drive. That's that's where I feel

622
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Speaker 7: like seventy five million and gosh, two hundred of what

623
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Speaker 7: we're talking.

624
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Speaker 6: About, that does that change as much because I think

625
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Speaker 6: I think we always talk about it like that.

626
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 4: I think there have been guys that.

627
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: Happened to Dak Prescott, like we saw the gruesome injury

628
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 6: at against the Giants and still ended up getting paid.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in today's world.

630
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Speaker 6: There used to be a time back in when I

631
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 6: was growing up back in the eighties, you're acl and

632
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 6: you're like career over. Yeah, Like, that's not the world

633
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 6: we necessarily live in anymore. And especially for a top

634
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 6: notch player like Micah. If Michael were to get hurt,

635
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 6: and I'm not pushing that on him at all, but

636
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 6: if he were to get hurt, my suspicion is he's

637
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: still gonna get paid by the Cowboys or by somebody

638
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 6: because he was just a great a talent for him

639
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 6: not to get paid. If Deshaun Watson can have to

640
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 6: sit out of football for X amount of years because

641
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 6: of whatever was going on and then make become, i

642
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 6: think at the time, the highest paid quarterback, and.

643
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Speaker 7: To be fair, that's in the swindle, whole thing guarantee, right,

644
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 7: guaranteed money.

645
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 6: But I'm saying, well, he needs one team out of

646
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 6: thirty two, right, Yeah, And so I guess I guess

647
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 6: what I'm The whole point I'm making is I don't

648
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 6: know that injuries, necessarily, in my book, kill your ability

649
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: if you're a top notch player to still be able

650
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 6: to get top notch money.

651
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 7: I think there might be some injury PTSD here though,

652
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Speaker 7: specifically because you talk about when they did the deal

653
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 7: for Steel after he got injured, they did the deal

654
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 7: for Trayvon Diggs, and then he's been injured these last

655
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 7: couple of years. You go back to the opening press

656
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 7: conference and there was a little bit of remorse that

657
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 7: Jerry threw out there as far as paying those two guys.

658
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 7: So you know, coming off an injury, I would be

659
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Speaker 7: shocked if Michael Parsons gets as much money as he

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Speaker 7: could if he was not injured at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 8: And that's why if you're Michael Parson's side, you're doing

664
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Speaker 8: everything you can to get this deal done now, and

665
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Speaker 8: everything you can to get this deal done before the season.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with Nick. If it gets to dire straits.

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Speaker 8: Then you start missing out on games, and it's gonna

668
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Speaker 8: those those pay missing those paychecks are gonna hurt. And

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Speaker 8: clearly and clearly by Michael Parsons being here, you can

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Speaker 8: tell that money.

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Speaker 3: Is important to him in some facet.

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Speaker 8: I know that missing I think, what is it, fifty

673
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Speaker 8: thousand dollars a day is not the same as missing.

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Speaker 3: A game check every week.

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Speaker 8: But nonetheless, if money is that important, then you got

676
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Speaker 8: to get something done now. And what good no you

677
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Speaker 8: got you got to get something done now.

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Speaker 7: I think when you start factoring in the endorsements and

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Speaker 7: the money that he makes off the field, I don't

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Speaker 7: think that hit will be as significant as it would

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Speaker 7: be to let's say, ceedee Lamb if you were to

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Speaker 7: hold out from games last year. He's gonna be all

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Speaker 7: right regardless. But but don't get me wrong, still a

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Speaker 7: game check I understand.

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Speaker 8: It, right, And and then and that is building on

686
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Speaker 8: more money than he's made the last four years in

687
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Speaker 8: his rookie deal. So for him, that's much different now

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Speaker 8: for us, I mean, that's I'll do anything.

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Speaker 6: I'll also tell you this, the other risks of that

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Speaker 6: if he goes that route. The other risk would be.

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Speaker 6: We've all seen it out here as a young man

692
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Speaker 6: by the name of Donovanezaraku who is certainly turning heads

693
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Speaker 6: out here and making place. I am not saying he's

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Speaker 6: he's about say Deaz Bryant. I'm not trying to say

695
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Speaker 6: he's a Parsons. That's not what I'm saying. What I

696
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Speaker 6: am saying is the risky runs is for a two

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Speaker 6: three game stretch there at the early part of the year.

698
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Speaker 6: Can him Fowler kneeling Sam Williams, can they create enough

699
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Speaker 6: of a pass rush to where the Cowboys defense looks like, oh, well,

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Speaker 6: how much do we really miss Michael? Now, don't get

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Speaker 6: me wrong, well whatever, And I said this on show

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Speaker 6: the other day when Brian brought that up. For whatever

703
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Speaker 6: the defense is gonna do, my thought is always gonna be,

704
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Speaker 6: how much.

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Speaker 4: Better would it be with Mike ol Right? So, so, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they could be great, but could they be greater?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: That's where you get into that.

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Speaker 6: But but I do think it does lessen your negotiating power, Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: As we said, when you're in these negotiations, you're looking

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Speaker 6: for leverage. If your leverage is okay, well let's see

712
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Speaker 6: what you do without me, and then they perform really

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Speaker 6: well without you may not be what it would be

714
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Speaker 6: with you, but it's really good.

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Speaker 4: It's good enough.

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Speaker 6: Certainly, let's say get wins, then it certainly changes now

717
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Speaker 6: your leverage, whatever amount of leverage you thought you had

718
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Speaker 6: there now dwindles, and it changes your negotiating power, right.

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Speaker 8: And Michael Parsons I don't think has as much leverage

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Speaker 8: as the Cowboys do in this situation, which is one

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Speaker 8: because of those years that they still which is why

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Speaker 8: if you're Michael Parsons in this team, you try to

723
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Speaker 8: get a deal done as soon as you can, because

724
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Speaker 8: if you don't play, then there's the your risk and

725
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Speaker 8: the chances.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, the Cowboys pass thrush looks great.

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Speaker 8: I think your pass whutch is always going to be

728
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Speaker 8: ten times better when Michael Parsons is on the thing.

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Speaker 4: We all agree with that, but I think Jerry agrees.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, absolutely, anybody would, uh.

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Speaker 8: And then you know you also for see the injury

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Speaker 8: of the risk excuse me of missing game tracks. And

733
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Speaker 8: that's a lot of money for a guy this age,

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Speaker 8: and really any age, millions, life changing money for anybody.

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Speaker 3: So if we're talking about Mike and side get a

736
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Speaker 3: deal done as soon as you can.

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Speaker 6: So what advice would you guys give Jerry and the

738
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Speaker 6: Jones family and in the front office as far as

739
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Speaker 6: how you would handle it if you were in this

740
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Speaker 6: situation and having to deal with this whole contract.

741
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Speaker 7: It depends are we trying to get it done or

742
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Speaker 7: were not trying to get it done?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, what do you think is best?

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Speaker 6: Because I'll tell you for me, I look at it

745
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Speaker 6: and I say it's in everyone's best interest if you

746
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Speaker 6: can find a deal that works.

747
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Speaker 7: Now.

748
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Speaker 6: The point is, I think the way Jerry looks at

749
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Speaker 6: it is already have a deal.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna have to be something.

751
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Speaker 6: If we're gonna do a new deal, it's gonna have

752
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: to be a new deal that both of us, me

753
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Speaker 6: and you agree is worth.

754
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Speaker 4: Tearing up the old deal, right.

755
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Speaker 6: And that's where it gets, you know, That's where that's

756
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Speaker 6: how we end up in the situation we're in right now,

757
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Speaker 6: is because I think they look at it like we

758
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Speaker 6: already have a deal in place, and I don't know

759
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Speaker 6: if Michae necessarily sees it like I need to honor

760
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Speaker 6: the last year of this deal, then.

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Speaker 7: I would at least call the agent and see what

762
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Speaker 7: they're trying to play with, you know, see where they are,

763
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Speaker 7: what ballpark they're in at the very least, and then

764
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Speaker 7: reinvive away from there. It's tough to say, you know,

765
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Speaker 7: you want to hoorner a trade request or not honor

766
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 7: a trade request, or hey, fans, don't lose sleep over

767
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Speaker 7: this when you don't know what exactly the other side

768
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Speaker 7: wants at the end of the day. I mean, you

769
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Speaker 7: have an idea of what the player once, but the

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Speaker 7: agent's gonna make things a little bit more difficult. I

771
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Speaker 7: just don't think there's been a level of acceptance from

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Speaker 7: the front office that the agent has to be involved here.

773
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Speaker 7: And that's where this thing just gets so weird. It's

774
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Speaker 7: it's tough to stuff to gauge. But my advice to

775
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Speaker 7: the front office will be just call the agent. Figure

776
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Speaker 7: it out from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Nick, You just got a call

778
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Speaker 3: the agent.

779
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Speaker 8: Just start that push and start heading towards the finish line,

780
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Speaker 8: because otherwise, if not, everybody's just gonna kind of be

781
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 8: sitting around look.

782
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Speaker 3: At one another like are we doing this?

783
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Speaker 8: Or because Michael Parsons made it very clear he's not

784
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Speaker 8: doing a deal without his agent involved. So if that's

785
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Speaker 8: what's gonna be needed to happen in order to reignite things,

786
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Speaker 8: then just ignite things.

787
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Speaker 3: I think getting something done.

788
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Speaker 8: Before the season is in everybody's best interest because you

789
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Speaker 8: can get Michael Parsons back out on the field. You

790
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Speaker 8: don't necessarily need to ramp up period for him throughout

791
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Speaker 8: the first couple of games of the year, like we

792
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Speaker 8: saw at times with Ceedee Lamb when he was holding out,

793
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Speaker 8: and you know, at.

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Speaker 3: His position, is there really as much of a difference.

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Speaker 8: Maybe maybe not, but non uthless, if you can get

796
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Speaker 8: a guy going at full speed Week one against the

797
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Speaker 8: defending Super Bowl champions, then if that's the game that

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Speaker 8: you know the Cowboys are really wanting to win, which

799
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Speaker 8: of course they are, you want Michael Parsons on the field.

800
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Speaker 8: That's gonna make things a lot better and give you

801
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Speaker 8: a much better shot. So if I'm Jerry Jones the

802
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 8: Jones Family, I'm calling David mulligatta and starting to get

803
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Speaker 8: this ball rolling.

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Speaker 7: Best guest on when this steal gets done, I think

805
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Speaker 7: the calendar will stay September. I don't know when in September,

806
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Speaker 7: but I think the calendar will say September.

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Speaker 8: I think this is just similar to Dak Prescott Steel,

808
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Speaker 8: where it gets done the day of or the day

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Speaker 8: before the opener.

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Speaker 6: M Yeah, I'm kind of I'm kind of closer to you.

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Speaker 6: I kind of think that by the time we get

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Speaker 6: back to Dallas that about what was that like a

813
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Speaker 6: week and a half before the first game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of have a feeling it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: in that period.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it happens here. I don't, I don't

817
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Speaker 6: eat I don't. I don't necessarily think it happens here.

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Speaker 6: I do think if I'm just guessing about and again

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the tea leaves of what's happened in

820
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Speaker 6: the past as well. I think that period where you're

821
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Speaker 6: back in Dallas and your head getting ready for that,

822
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Speaker 6: you know, getting ready for that game, then opening game

823
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Speaker 6: against Philadelphia, I would I would not be shocked if

824
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Speaker 6: this is a Labor Day surprise for us and on

825
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Speaker 6: Labor Day we're covering a new deal.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, we'll see.

827
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Speaker 6: I think I think we all kind of are just

828
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Speaker 6: waiting for it to happen. Certainly in the media, that's

829
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Speaker 6: always the waight game, right, just waiting to see when

830
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Speaker 6: it happens. But that's that's ideally based on history. That's

831
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Speaker 6: what I would hope and I would guess at this

832
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Speaker 6: point is maybe they get it done by that point,

833
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Speaker 6: heading into that first week.

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Speaker 4: And here's the interesting part.

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Speaker 6: My hope is that Mica can then quickly acclimate himself

836
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Speaker 6: to the rigors of playing in an NFL game. You're

837
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Speaker 6: gonna have to limit his time if let's say it

838
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Speaker 6: happens at that time frame, You're gonna have to limit

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Speaker 6: his time in that first game, maybe in the first

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Speaker 6: couple games to get him up to speed, but hopefully

841
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Speaker 6: sooner rather than later, because quite frankly, I'm tired of

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Speaker 6: covering the story.

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Speaker 3: Then all three allSome, all right, we're gonna take our

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Speaker 3: final break.

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Speaker 4: It was. Let's let's talk though, real quick.

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Speaker 6: I want to get some football because we spent the

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Speaker 6: whole show talking about the contract situation.

916
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: But let's talk about football here.

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00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: I want you, guys, give me over the last couple practices,

918
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Speaker 6: what you've seen.

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Speaker 4: I want to get. This is what we do for

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Speaker 4: both you guys.

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 6: I want to get a moment and a player that

922
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: stood out to you for good or bad reasons, but

923
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Speaker 6: a moment and.

924
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Speaker 4: A player that stood out of the last couple of practice.

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Speaker 7: Just the last couple of ones.

926
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which since our last show, I got you.

927
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Speaker 7: A couple let me go player, and I'm gonna go

928
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Speaker 7: key On Hall. Looked really good yesterday, I had a

929
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 7: couple of deflections, looked good the day before last. And

930
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 7: he's really starting to factor himself into a potential starting

931
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Speaker 7: nickel role going into the year. This team doesn't expect

932
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Speaker 7: Trayvon Diggs to be healthy for Week one, so they

933
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Speaker 7: are going to have to figure out what to do

934
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Speaker 7: at that cornerback position. And if it were me today,

935
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Speaker 7: I'd put Elam and Bland on the outside and I'd

936
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Speaker 7: put key On Hall at nickel. I think, you know,

937
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Speaker 7: despite him being in a competition with a lot of

938
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Speaker 7: young guys, he has some veteran experience. He has some

939
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Speaker 7: veteran savvy. He's been in the league gosh, like six

940
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Speaker 7: seven years already, which is crazy to think about. And

941
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Speaker 7: I was able to speak to him yesterday coming off

942
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Speaker 7: the field, and this time last year, literally this week

943
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 7: last year, he was invited for a training camp workout,

944
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Speaker 7: ended up making the squad, stuck around on the practice

945
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Speaker 7: squad that made the roster at the end of the

946
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Speaker 7: year last year, and he had an opportunity to start

947
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Speaker 7: in those last couple of weeks, but a knee injury

948
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Speaker 7: and practice kept him from doing so. I think he

949
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Speaker 7: has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder

950
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Speaker 7: to start in week one, and I think, you know,

951
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 7: that's certainly a player that's caught my eye a moment.

952
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: It's gonna have to be that CD catch a couple

953
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 7: of days ago, great coverage from Deron Bland and bobbling

954
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Speaker 7: it as he was going down and still hauled it

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Speaker 7: in and I did a little close frame. I got

956
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Speaker 7: in on the pixels. He caught that ball. So I

957
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Speaker 7: think this is the best catch so far at camp.

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Speaker 4: So we do a replay out here, Yeah, yeah, we do.

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00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 7: We have instant replay right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we almost didn't have it. My player.

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Speaker 8: This is gonna be the happiest Nick Nick's ever been

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Speaker 8: in a segment. Hunter Lipke is my player. You know,

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Speaker 8: this is a guy who with I'm trying to I'm

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Speaker 8: blinking right now, Miles Sanders kind of dealing with an

965
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Speaker 8: injury at the moment. He's seen a little bit more

966
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Speaker 8: run at running back, and they're doing everything with him.

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Speaker 8: They're giving him handoffs, they're throwing them the ball on

968
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Speaker 8: the flat they're having him blocked.

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Speaker 3: He can do it all.

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Speaker 8: He's a Swiss Army knife and I know that Nick

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Speaker 8: has paraded that around for the better part of three years.

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Speaker 3: Now and rightfully. So, I mean, he's a good football player.

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Speaker 8: And that's what Brian Schotenheimer said, you know all around

974
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Speaker 8: this is he doesn't have a position. He just goes

975
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Speaker 8: out and plays football and he's doing it really well.

976
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Speaker 8: So I'll tip my cap to Hunter Luki and then

977
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Speaker 8: the player would be from earlier in that practice on

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Speaker 8: I think it was Saturday, when you know, they ran

979
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Speaker 8: a quick flip to Cavante Turpin and they got Terrence

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Speaker 8: Steele moving downfield, they got Cooper b b moving and

981
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Speaker 8: they just set two really good blocks down the field.

982
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Speaker 8: Terrence Steele got up on Donovan Wilson and Cavante Turbin

983
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Speaker 8: makes one cut and takes off.

984
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Speaker 3: Nobody even touched him.

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Speaker 8: So that those are plays where you look at Cavante

986
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Speaker 8: Turbin and how much they've ingrained him in this offense

987
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 8: so far camp, and you can't help but think that,

988
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Speaker 8: you know, when they get him in space, he's gonna

989
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Speaker 8: be able to make some plays for him this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's been one of the most one of the

991
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Speaker 6: most pleasant surprises for me out here at training campus,

992
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Speaker 6: how much they they have integrated him into the offense

993
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Speaker 6: when for years since he's gotten here, I think every

994
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Speaker 6: media person has been clamoring for get more, get Turpid

995
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 6: more involved. There's more that he can do, There's more opportunity.

996
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 6: The guys just has such rare ability getting the ball

997
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 6: in his hands. There are only good things that are

998
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 6: going to happen from it, and it seems like that's

999
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Speaker 6: something that this coaching staff is very committed to doing

1000
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Speaker 6: based on what we've seen so far.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that six million dollars price tag gives

1002
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 7: you some incentive to find offensive roles for him.

1003
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Speaker 6: Now, the question is just can his body hold up.

1004
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Speaker 6: That's one of the things that I will say about him.

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00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 6: He doesn't tend to take a lot of straight on hits,

1006
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Speaker 6: Like he tends to kind of bounce around and when

1007
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 6: guys hit him, he kind of they kind of glanced him.

1008
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Speaker 6: So he doesn't really take those straight on, big hits,

1009
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Speaker 6: which for his body frame is a good thing. But

1010
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Speaker 6: I'm very excited to see what he can do this year.

1011
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 6: I told Nick the other day, Nick Eatman. I was like,

1012
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Speaker 6: I might in a late round in fantasy that little

1013
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 6: flyer on Devontae Turfin, because I think he's gonna have

1014
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: some opportunities and his ability will mean he'll turn those

1015
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 6: opportunities in some points.

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Speaker 4: For you on fantasy, that is, that.

1017
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Speaker 7: Is a good question. Who's the best late round flyer

1018
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 7: on this team?

1019
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: Late round or obviously overall, it's got to be CD,

1020
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 6: right overall?

1021
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Speaker 7: CD or Pickens priced though, but like a late.

1022
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: Or Pickings like you you would you'd put Pickings up there.

1023
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 6: How early would you would you take somebody like Pickins?

1024
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 7: Oh, man, I would go I have to think here

1025
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 7: I had I'd have to go like probably fifth round.

1026
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 7: But yeah, you're right, You're right. I just think about

1027
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 7: like at the end of the day, how many points

1028
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 7: could Pickens generate. At the end of day, he could

1029
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 7: probably be a top fifteen receiver for.

1030
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Speaker 4: I agree with that.

1031
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I put him in the conversation like I put

1032
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 6: Devonte Smith. I've had Devontae Smith a couple of years.

1033
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 6: Where As the second if you want to call him

1034
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 6: the second option in Philly, like, he still puts up

1035
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 6: pretty consistent, decent numbers. Yeah, he's the guy you can

1036
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 6: rely on pretty much. You can get some pretty good

1037
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: and then there'll be a couple weeks when he just

1038
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 6: will blow up. Right, So yeah, I put Pickens in

1039
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 6: that same kind of category. But yeah, I think Turpin

1040
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: might be something you would you would think about in

1041
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 6: a late round.

1042
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Speaker 3: I think Jayden Blue would be a good late round

1043
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: flying too.

1044
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the secret's gonna get out.

1045
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: It's hard.

1046
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 8: It's hard to it's hard to keep it when he

1047
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 8: keeps you know, he keeps making big run plays.

1048
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: Man, He's it's hard to bring down.

1049
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1050
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Speaker 6: My fear is just like with so many guys in

1051
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 6: the mix right now, you just have a hard time

1052
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: knowing exactly the direction they're gonna go. You know, we

1053
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 6: we see it out here at camp. But once you

1054
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 6: get into the season, are they gonna opt for the

1055
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 6: more veteran guys or they gonna go.

1056
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, it's just so much. I

1057
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: just that would make me a little bit.

1058
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Speaker 7: There are variables there.

1059
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Speaker 6: That being said, real quick Cowboys do have a practice

1060
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 6: this afternoon. It's a joint practice with the l A Rams.

1061
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 6: They'll be out here on the fields in Oxtar, California,

1062
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 6: if in the area, come on drop by. But that

1063
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 6: being said real quick, before we end the show, I'd

1064
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Speaker 6: like you guys to give me one matchup that you're

1065
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: excited to see today between the Rams and the Cowboys.

1066
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Speaker 7: I'm excited to see this Cowboys offensive line against the

1067
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 7: Rams d line. It's uh, it's the depth is certainly

1068
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: being tested on the offensive line. For for the Cowboys,

1069
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: I want to see how they go up against this

1070
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 7: Rams defensive front that is young, deep. They got a

1071
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: lot of guys that that'll be able to rotate in

1072
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 7: and you know, how does a guy like Nate Thomas

1073
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 7: factor in at left tackle? Can he hold guys like

1074
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 7: Jared Verse? And in the inside Tyler Booker? You know,

1075
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 7: is he going to be able to handle a guy

1076
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 7: like Brandon Fist coming in the middle. So there's a

1077
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 7: there's a lot of guys that I'm excited to see

1078
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 7: in the trench battle for sure.

1079
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 8: I look outside at corner with the Cowboys, you know,

1080
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 8: you look at the Rams ride receiver corps with Davante

1081
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 8: Adams and Pook, Jordan Whittington.

1082
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: They yeah, they they they got Texas. Yeah, he has

1083
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 3: been great daring.

1084
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 6: I know.

1085
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: Yes, By the way, I love Texas too, so I

1086
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: will with that.

1087
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 7: But Adams might not practice today, so that would be

1088
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 7: even more opportunities for a guy like winning.

1089
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 8: Right, and then you've got, you know the rest of

1090
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 8: the guys like to two at well, Tyler Higbee, the rookie,

1091
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 8: Terrence Ferguson's questionable, I know, but nonetheless, you know, you

1092
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 8: look at the Cowboys cornerback room and just how it

1093
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 8: kind of dire straits.

1094
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: They are because of injuries there.

1095
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: You know, this is a big opportunity for Andrew Booth,

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Speaker 8: if he's back and healthy, to be able to go

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Speaker 8: out there and play Deron Bland. Are they going to

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Speaker 8: put him outside or in the slot? You talk about

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Speaker 8: Kemon Hall in the slot? Is he going to be

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Speaker 8: able to show something? Troy Pride is a guy who

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Speaker 8: has had a practice or two where he's kind of flashed,

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Speaker 8: but then other times where he hasn't.

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Speaker 3: Same with Andrew Booth.

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Speaker 8: So it's good reps for these guys who may have

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Speaker 8: to be counted on here early just because of these injuries.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: One of the interesting things about that, Matthew Stafford, according

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Speaker 6: to reports, will not be practicing today, So that does

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Speaker 6: kind of limit that hasn't let a little bit. You

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Speaker 6: may not get to see the full extent of what

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Speaker 6: this especially if he and DeVante Adams aren't aren't practicing,

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Speaker 6: you may not get a chance to see that challenge

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Speaker 6: as much as we really want to see it.

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Speaker 4: But there'll be some interesting things certainly to follow out here.

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Speaker 6: It's always a fun practice when you have teams in town,

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Speaker 6: and the Rams and Cowboys tend to have a really

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Speaker 6: spirited practice when they get together out here in Knox, Narch.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see how that goes. So we appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Jones.

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Speaker 6: We're back on Thursday. We'll tell you everything that we

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Speaker 6: saw in this practice. We'll also do a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a wrap up here from campus because it is

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Speaker 6: the last Cowboys Break episode that we'll do here at camp.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna do a little bit of a big picture

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Speaker 6: recap some of the things that we liked and didn't like,

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Speaker 6: some players that stood out, some players that didn't stand out.

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Speaker 6: We'll do all that on Thursday till then. For Tommy

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Speaker 6: Yarsh and Nick Harris'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the

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Speaker 6: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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