1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,240 John Harris: Welcome to everybody to a Thursday night at Nation of 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,360 John Harris: Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris Football and 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,040 John Harris: only Sideline reporter Mark will be back tomorrow night. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Marc Vandermeer: But you know it's Thursday night, so that means it's. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,479 John Harris: The General John McClain, Hall of Famer with me this evening. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Marc Vandermeer: John, How are you doing, my friend? 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,079 John Harris: John? 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,079 John McClain: I could not be doing better? Thank you for asking. 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,520 John Harris: First of all, how is your House documentary moving along? 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,240 John Harris: Any new news on the documentary? 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,080 John McClain: And do we made our trip to Jimmy Johnson. We've got... 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,959 John McClain: We've got a trip. We go to the Texas High 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,680 John McClain: School Coaches Convention in San Antonio, the way we did 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,720 John McClain: last year, and the Texans will sponsor a panel and 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,000 John McClain: again which I will interview this year. It's Jackie, Cheryl Wade, Phillips, 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:01,440 John McClain: Michael Bishop, Roberto Garcia and and somebody else. And that 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,120 John McClain: was so much fun last year. And then we're going 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,720 John McClain: to Brady. Brady is fifty miles from Atlanto and that's 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,679 John McClain: big wine country. A lot of people don't know it. 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,520 John McClain: Texas produces wine and santana. Dotson from Houston and Yates 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,160 John McClain: High School and Baylor Sickham. He and his dad have 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,600 John McClain: a winery and Brady his dad, Alphonse, played in the NFL, 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,119 John McClain: and Alphonse was a teammate with the Raiders of Eldridge Dickey, 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,959 John McClain: the greatest PBIL quarterback who died in two thousand. So 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,360 John McClain: we are going to interview Alphonse and he's going to 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,080 John McClain: talk about what happened with Dicky when he went from 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,080 John McClain: Washington High School here to Tennessee State so he could 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 John McClain: throw the ball. And al Davis made the first black 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,280 John McClain: quarterback drafted in the first round in sixty eight, and 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,240 John McClain: you wondered, well, why did he do it? He drafted 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,200 John McClain: Kenny Stabler around later, and he already had Darryl Lamonica, 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 John McClain: who was the MVP the previous year in George blanded 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,480 John McClain: and al Von's is gonna tell us he did it 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,919 John McClain: to keep him away from Hank Stran. So I can't 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,160 John McClain: wait to tell that story. And this past weekend, John, 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,919 John McClain: I did one of the neatest things I've ever done. 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,080 John McClain: I went to Mobile, invited by Robert Brazil, doctor doom, 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,880 John McClain: ten year linebacker with oilers. Because the city of Mobile 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,000 John McClain: did something every city should do, including Houston. They unveiled 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,760 John McClain: a Hall of Fame walk outside their Convention Center on 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,720 John McClain: the water downtown, in which they have six Hall of 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,840 John McClain: Fame players from a city of one hundred and seventy 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,480 John McClain: nine thousand. Robert's the only football the baseball statues, nine 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,840 John McClain: foot statues Hank Aaron Satchel Page, Sweet Swinging Billy Williams, 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,280 John McClain: Willie McCovey, and Ozzie Smith, all from Mobile and it 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,680 John McClain: was a fundamental event. Sweet Swinging Billy was back. Robert 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,880 John McClain: made a short speech, Robert lives there, spends a lot 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,280 John McClain: of time for here. Erro Campbell came and we just 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,519 John McClain: had so much fun watching Roberts celebrate that great moment. 50 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,840 John McClain: And one of his good friends is Nolan the Nat Smith. 51 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 John McClain: Nolan was a five foot six hundred and fifty pound 52 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,600 John McClain: kick returner who came from Tennessee State and played three 53 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,400 John McClain: years at Tennessee Stree with Eldridge Dickey. And we're bringing 54 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,960 John McClain: him in here in a couple of weeks, flying him 55 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 John McClain: in so he can talk about Dickey in college, and 56 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,800 John McClain: then we'll have Alphonse Dodson and one other player talking 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 John McClain: about him in the NFL. We could do a separate 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,880 John McClain: documentary on Eldridge Dickey, who was by He was bilingual. 59 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,360 John McClain: He was Ambidextros and they say could throw a ball 60 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,040 John McClain: sixty yards left handed even though he played right handed. 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,800 John McClain: So I'm really fired up about that. Tell you what, John, 62 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,640 John McClain: every fan, every sports fan would ahead a blast going 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,920 John McClain: to Mobile and see what that city has done that 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,080 John McClain: we should do too. 65 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Marc Vandermeer: That's really cool. 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,720 John Harris: Mobile is one of my favorite cities, and not just 67 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 John Harris: because the senior balls there. It when I would travel 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,279 John Harris: with my kids and my wife up to North Carolina, 69 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,200 John Harris: Mobile a lot of times is a place we would 70 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 John Harris: stop just as okay, it's the first part of our drive, 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,000 John Harris: we stopping Mobile. 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Marc Vandermeer: But those baseball players you. 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 John Harris: Mentioned, I mean those legends off of Mobile, I mean 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,599 John Harris: that is really really cool, and Robert being mentioned in 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,440 John Harris: that group, that must have been one hell of a trip. 76 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,120 John Harris: There's no doubt. Now the Texans are going to take 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,360 John Harris: a trip. They're going to the Greenbrier. So we'll be 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 John Harris: up there for about four or five days. But training 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880 John Harris: camp starts on July twenty third, General, so we're less 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,520 John Harris: than a month. And as you get ready, gotta have 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,159 John Harris: a to do list in your mind as you get 82 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,200 John Harris: ready for training camp. Are there any to dos that 83 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,120 John Harris: you think about for this team as they go to 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,200 John Harris: training camp. They've got to do these things as they 85 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,760 John Harris: start training camp and matriculate through training camp. 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Marc Vandermeer: What are the things you would put on your to 87 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Marc Vandermeer: do list for this team? John? 88 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,479 John McClain: Before I do a to do list, I like to 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,479 John McClain: point out I thought the Greenbrier was great. Guys. Lewisbourg, 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,960 John McClain: West Virginia, A small town with so many art art 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,080 John McClain: It's an artsy town with great restaurants. Yep, so many 92 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,520 John McClain: things to do, beautiful mountains everywhere, buller weather and I 93 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,360 John McClain: am so envious of you guys going. And my wife 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 John McClain: Carol said, well, why don't you just go? Cash in 95 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 John McClain: some Marryott Points and United. 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: Miles and I talked about I thought about it, and 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: then I said, now I don't want to be out 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: of place, and uh, but it's going to be so 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: much fun. 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,279 John McClain: I remember, you know they went because Rick Smith wanted 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,520 John McClain: to go. Saints had been three years in a row, 102 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,080 John McClain: so they went. Bill O'Brien went along with it. Rick left, 103 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 John McClain: Bill didn't want to go back, and I know the 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,640 John McClain: McNair family had a blast. And I told Cal, hey, 105 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,680 John McClain: you're the owner, you're the boss. Tell them they're going 106 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,360 John McClain: back every stinking year. But as Cal pouring it out. 107 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,640 John McClain: They don't tell the coach and the GM what to do, 108 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,160 John McClain: and so they didn't do it. Obviously, Tomko believes that 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,560 John McClain: you can bond. Were you guys that were up outside 110 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,680 John McClain: Cleveland last year between games? Demiko got a lot out 111 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,200 John McClain: of that and he wants to do it again. And 112 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,320 John McClain: you know, Cleveland, the Greenbrier, Cleveland, the Greenbrier. I'm guessing 113 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,599 John McClain: people think, well, let's go to the Greenbrier and y'all 114 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 John McClain: are going to have a blast between those games. As 115 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,400 John McClain: far as the to do list, they got a lot 116 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,039 John McClain: of things we want to see from players, but none 117 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 John McClain: more so than the offensive line. They're to do things 118 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,640 John McClain: that they got to do, told Papovich. A new line coach, 119 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,200 John McClain: Nick Kayleeve, the new coordinator, damn five new they've got 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,640 John McClain: to decide in trading camp in preseason who's going to 121 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,120 John McClain: be in the starting lineup when the season begins. Now, 122 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,000 John McClain: injuries will you know, help make those decisions easier. And 123 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 John McClain: you want to think they're going to be better. And 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,160 John McClain: somebody's got to step up and replace Laramie Tunsall. That 125 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,520 John McClain: should be Cam Robinson. Maybe a right to usury, but 126 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,280 John McClain: they've got to be as close to as good at 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,960 John McClain: left tackle. Maybe improvements in his schemes will help overcome 128 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,440 John McClain: their trade of Tunsul to Washington. But do you look 129 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,680 John McClain: what they did in the off season program, Titus Hour 130 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,000 John McClain: to right guard for the first time, Blake Fisher right tackle, 131 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,120 John McClain: Robinson left tackle, left guard, Tomlinson, and in the center 132 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,600 John McClain: Andrews to me, came out of nowhere. That was I 133 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,840 John McClain: thought very interesting because only one guy in that line 134 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,320 John McClain: started to gain for this season in the position which 135 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,360 John McClain: he was in the off season program, and that of 136 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,440 John McClain: course would have been Blake Fisher's right tackle, and he's 137 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,960 John McClain: not guaranteed to be in the right tackle. Everywhere I go, 138 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,560 John McClain: including in Mobile, and I was a bunch of places 139 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,480 John McClain: with former Oilers and everybody was talking about two things, 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,200 John McClain: the offensive line and C. J. Stroud and Earl Campbell 141 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,080 John McClain: told me twice about how impressed he's been with Stroud 142 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,280 John McClain: on and off the field, and I don't know if 143 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 John McClain: he knows Stroud or not, but he really likes him. 144 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,880 John McClain: And that narrative that he had an off season and 145 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,280 John McClain: from people that didn't watch every game and every play 146 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,080 John McClain: like we did, is kind of preposterous. Peyton Manning came 147 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,480 John McClain: out and pointed out He's been the playoffs two years 148 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,040 John McClain: one two playoff games, and I didn't want to playoff 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,320 John McClain: game till the sixth year. And I saw Chris SAMs 150 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,280 John McClain: last week talk about the problems on offense were all 151 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,600 John McClain: about the offensive line and not Stroud, and he mentioned 152 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 John McClain: you could see Stroud the Texans in the Super Bowl. 153 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,800 John McClain: So people nationally are starting to come around and figure 154 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,760 John McClain: out what happened to things that we already know. Man, 155 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,120 John McClain: I think if this team were to proved by even 156 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,200 John McClain: improved by fifty percent in the pass protection, that's not 157 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,199 John McClain: a lot. You know, they could win eleven or twelve games. 158 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,120 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah, no doubt. 159 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,640 John Harris: I mean a lot of people are pointed out that 160 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,520 John Harris: watched the Super Bowl and they're like, man, Matt Patrick 161 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,560 John Harris: Mahomes ran for his. 162 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Marc Vandermeer: Life, and they're like, he was pressured. 163 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,080 John Harris: I think on thirty eight percent of his passes that 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,440 John Harris: was Stroud the entire season in twenty twenty four. So 165 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,839 John Harris: there have been it's been on the right way of 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,599 John Harris: saying this general, but it's been sort of cathartic in 167 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,240 John Harris: a way to see and hear people talking about Stroud, 168 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,040 John Harris: like Chris Sims, like Peyton talking Stroud up as opposed 169 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,960 John Harris: to Oh, the sophomore slump. Yeah, the sophomore slump. Well, 170 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,080 John Harris: he wasn't the only one having a sophomore slump. Laughter 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 John Harris: last year, you're gonna call it that. But I just 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 John Harris: felt like there were times in game where when he 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,600 John Harris: took a step back to throw, my first thought was, 174 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,080 John Harris: oh God, where's the pressure, like it's coming, and then 175 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,160 John Harris: he still would beat it, especially in Green Bay. He 176 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,840 John Harris: hitn't got a good throw off all day, and he 177 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,840 John Harris: makes that throw to Xavier Hutchinson, which should have won 178 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,079 John Harris: the game. They should have been able to run a 179 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,480 John Harris: clock out and score, but they weren't able to and 180 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,960 John Harris: get that win. But I'm glad you brought that up, General, 181 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,559 John Harris: because it feels like throughout the year there was this 182 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,000 John Harris: kind of backlash at CJ, and I was like, Man, 183 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,280 John Harris: if you're really watching, you realize it's not what you 184 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,320 John Harris: guys think it is. 185 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Marc Vandermeer: Let's get it a little bit further. And I think 186 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,080 Marc Vandermeer: General in. 187 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,240 John Harris: Comment on this, if you will, When the Texans, when 188 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,680 John Harris: Dimiko Ryan's got rid of Bobby Slowick and moved on 189 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,719 John Harris: from Chris Strausser, it felt like the Texans were sort 190 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 John Harris: of acknowledging that thing that yet we don't think it 191 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 John Harris: was CJ. We think it was everything really around him 192 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,480 John Harris: not really giving him the best chance to be as successful. 193 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,520 John Harris: What are your thoughts about that sort of thought process 194 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,880 John Harris: that their actions kind of told everybody what they thought 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,720 John Harris: issues really truly were not just CJ. 196 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,520 John McClain: Let me take a step back about to do stuff. 197 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,040 John McClain: Obviously a wide receiver. They have three new ones, two 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,120 John McClain: rookies and a veteran and Christian Kirk. And you hope 199 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,040 John McClain: Christian Kirk can stay healthy. And when I talk to 200 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 John McClain: him in the off season program, I know what he's 201 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,160 John McClain: listed at, but he actually looked bigger and he's, you know, thicker. 202 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,840 John McClain: That's a great way to put it. And I don't 203 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,400 John McClain: know if he's always looked that way or if he's 204 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,560 John McClain: worked hard to look that way to try to stay 205 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,120 John McClain: healthy for a full season. But seeing how the wide 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,480 John McClain: receiver play plays out, who who makes it and who doesn't, 207 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,800 John McClain: it's meant to break to me for John John Mitchie 208 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,720 John McClain: the third and so that's going to be exciting as well. 209 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,000 John McClain: And then can Nick Chubb stand up and come in 210 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,160 John McClain: and be healthy and seize that backup job. We haven't 211 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,640 John McClain: seen Damian Peers, and I'm assuming he's recovered from another injury, 212 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,920 John McClain: but he may have a hard I'm making the team 213 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,880 John McClain: or maybe if he's healthy, because Sario could get US 214 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,360 John McClain: six or seven for him. But there's a lot to watch, 215 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,960 John McClain: especially with the new players, you know, safeties, you know CJ. 216 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 John McClain: Gardner Johnson after what he did winning the Super Bowl, 217 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,880 John McClain: and I've seen some of the things he says about 218 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,720 John McClain: he's playing big games and this team needs to learn 219 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,760 John McClain: how to win big games. And he's exactly right. Those 220 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,160 John McClain: big games of which you're ahead, like Detroit, you blow it, 221 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,560 John McClain: or when you're in the playoffs and you have to 222 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,520 John McClain: go on the road. So there's a lot for everybody 223 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,000 John McClain: to be fired up about when they report to training camp. 224 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,640 John McClain: And I'm sorry, what was the second thing you asked me? 225 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,960 John Harris: No, just just talking about how Stroud really wasn't what 226 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,040 John Harris: a lot of national narrative paintings I thought more flump. 227 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,400 John McClain: Well, first of all, we don't see him going all 228 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,000 John McClain: over the country playing in celebrities softball and basketball games 229 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,240 John McClain: and repeating against Micah Parsons like he did last season. 230 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 John McClain: It seemed like he was all over the place, and 231 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,640 John McClain: I wonder if he's focused a little bit more on 232 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,600 John McClain: playing and the new game the new playbook because Nick 233 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,800 John McClain: Cayley's putting a lot of pressure on him at the 234 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,880 John McClain: line of scrimage and he you know, he loves that now, 235 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,560 John McClain: but he's got to prove that he can still handle 236 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,280 John McClain: it because it's a big deal. That's the way Sean 237 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,120 John McClain: McVay does his quarterbacks. Matthew Stafford's been in the league 238 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,880 John McClain: for so long, no doubt he can handle that. So 239 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,040 John McClain: watching what Stroud does for the mental part is going 240 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,760 John McClain: to be very intriguing. We know he can play physically, 241 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,040 John McClain: and he made some great plays last year. When I 242 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,640 John McClain: see the stat where not only was his sack second most, 243 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,720 John McClain: he was pressured the first most and from the time 244 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,439 John McClain: the ball was snapped and at least one lineman was beaten, 245 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,760 John McClain: they number one in that too, and that number one 246 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,760 John McClain: is not good. So watching him make the plays he made, 247 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 John McClain: thinking about that, thinking about the ten to seven record, 248 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,439 John McClain: the butt whipping they put on Jim Rbaugh and the Chargers, 249 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,560 John McClain: he can't say it was a disappointing season unless you 250 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,440 John McClain: were predicting them go to the super Bowl, and I 251 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,560 John McClain: predict them when the division this year, I think they 252 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 John McClain: will run away with the division. And the key is 253 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:33,280 John McClain: can Stroud be upright enough to help them get a 254 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:40,160 John McClain: home playoff game. Demiko would go crazy. Hear somebody say, 255 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,000 John McClain: run away with the division and they'll win the wild 256 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,400 John McClain: card game here. But then the key is have the 257 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,840 John McClain: divisional game here to see if the Texans could give 258 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,400 John McClain: Defans a game in an AFC Championship game for the 259 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,280 John McClain: first ten ins the Oilers after the nineteen seventy nine season, 260 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,960 John McClain: Are they capable? Yes? One other thing, and this is important, 261 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,800 John McClain: and this may be the most important thing of all, 262 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,840 John McClain: because they just let the greatest player in his position lead, 263 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,400 John McClain: and that's John Weeks, and they've already dumped the guy 264 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 John McClain: that was gonna take his place, so they don't want 265 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,680 John McClain: that to backfire. Now some guy have a couple of 266 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,120 John McClain: bad snaps and crucial situations, and usually with Weeks, we 267 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,800 John McClain: were spoiled. We didn't pay any attention to it, and 268 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,240 John McClain: now we're gonna be paying attention to the snapper. 269 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 John Harris: Yeah, there's no question along those lines general, because there 270 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,160 John Harris: is only one right now. 271 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Marc Vandermeer: It's in Brinkman in camp. 272 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,280 John Harris: Maybe another one comes in, maybe Addington comes back, who knows, 273 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,480 John Harris: But this this roster has got some position units that 274 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,120 John Harris: it's gonna be pretty tough to get to. 275 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,560 Marc Vandermeer: Whatever the number. 276 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,040 John Harris: Is gonna be running backs four, maybe it's three, receivers 277 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,880 John Harris: at six, maybe it's five, maybe it's seven. 278 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Marc Vandermeer: I don't know. 279 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,400 John Harris: But what position do you think is going to be 280 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,320 John Harris: the most difficult to get the number that they're getting 281 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,720 John Harris: to that there will be players cut, waved released that 282 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,280 John Harris: end up finding opportunities with other teams because of the 283 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,200 John Harris: depth of Texans have, they just can't keep everybody. Which 284 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 John Harris: positions do you think or will you have your eyes 285 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,240 John Harris: on the most that you think will be the most 286 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,880 John Harris: difficult cut for Nick and Demiko. 287 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,800 John McClain: I think there's no question is the defensive line. If 288 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,000 John McClain: you go through this roster and the moves that they've 289 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,920 John McClain: made with defensive linemen, and we all know that the 290 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,680 John McClain: ends are set and with Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson Junior, 291 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,160 John McClain: and they got good backups. I'm glad they brought in 292 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,040 John McClain: Derek Barnett. I want to see what Dylan Norton's gonna 293 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,440 John McClain: do since he got completely healthy last year in his 294 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,560 John McClain: third season. And I think they brought in two free 295 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,880 John McClain: agents and in and you bring back Sheldon Rankins who 296 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,400 John McClain: played well enough two years ago to get what do 297 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:01,840 John McClain: you get like fourteen millions something like that from Cincinnati hurt. 298 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:07,080 John McClain: Tim Settle played well. Defensive lineman, specifically, the guys in 299 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,440 John McClain: the middle played better here then they play other places. 300 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,520 John McClain: Deniko Autrey's back. You hope he's there for a full season. 301 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,520 John McClain: Mario Edwards played better here than any of the other 302 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,320 John McClain: twenty five teams he played for. It's gonna be a 303 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,000 John McClain: tough cut inside. And then they got some second year 304 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,280 John McClain: defensive linemen who were on the practice squad. We're going 305 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,000 John McClain: to see Texans defensive lineman playing against them for other teams. 306 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 John McClain: And one of the reasons that they're as good as 307 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,040 John McClain: they are. And of course to Miko makes the calls 308 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,119 John McClain: and they have good coaching. But Matt Burke, the defensive 309 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,959 John McClain: line coach, I mean, the defensive coordinator, that's his baby. 310 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,600 John McClain: He was a defensive line coach before he came here 311 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,400 John McClain: as coordinator and he plays a big role in that. 312 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,040 John McClain: And I think they're coaching on this side of the 313 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,879 John McClain: ball is outstanding. And boy, those decisions they make them personnel, 314 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,359 John McClain: especially if they're all healthy, is going to be the 315 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,040 John McClain: most difficult by far. 316 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,280 John Harris: Yeah, your defensive line, no doubt. I think a lot 317 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,760 John Harris: of people will have their eyes on receiver. That's gonna 318 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,680 John Harris: be a hell of a competition. But I know that 319 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,760 John Harris: do you mention it? The depth on defensive line. I've 320 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,600 John Harris: said it a few times. 321 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Marc Vandermeer: Depth on the defensive line is unlike anything I've ever 322 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Marc Vandermeer: seen here. 323 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,399 John Harris: I mean, they've got so many bodies that I wouldn't 324 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,080 John Harris: be surprised to see a player your wave cut and 325 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,320 John Harris: end up starting somewhere else, you know, in a rotation 326 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,680 John Harris: or whatever the case might be, that they're that deep 327 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,280 John Harris: on the defensive line general. I talked to James Palmer, 328 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,640 John Harris: our good friend, a little bit earlier today, and we 329 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,680 John Harris: were chatting about defensive as edge rushers. There's Micah Parsons, 330 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,880 John Harris: There's Trey Hendrickson, and there's. 331 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Marc Vandermeer: T J Watt. 332 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,399 John Harris: Those three are kind of right now sitting and then 333 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,080 John Harris: there's even Aiden Hutchinson kind of out there, you know, 334 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,119 John Harris: could could get an extension of those Which do you 335 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,520 John Harris: think is the next to sign with his particular team? 336 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,760 John Harris: Is it Parsons, is it what is it Hendrickson? Or 337 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,480 John Harris: is it Hutchinson getting an extension. 338 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,120 John McClain: They haven't made much noise about Hutchinson because they want 339 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,199 John McClain: to make sure he can come back one hundred percent 340 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,360 John McClain: from his jury. Michael Parson's gonna have to be signed 341 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,720 John McClain: before the season, and but I also think Trey Hendrickson 342 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,399 John McClain: they'll get that deal done. They've got a chance to 343 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,159 John McClain: get in the playoffs. They've made some changes on defense, 344 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,880 John McClain: they got a chance to be a Super Bowl contender 345 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,800 John McClain: because Joe Burrow and the passing game are incredible. They're 346 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,840 John McClain: hoping to overcome the slow starts. But what if they 347 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,440 John McClain: mess around and they don't sign hendricks until after four 348 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,879 John McClain: games and they start two and two again, and then 349 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,159 John McClain: they miss the playoffs by one game again, then you 350 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,840 John McClain: can blame it on the Brown family. And so I 351 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,200 John McClain: believe they will get Trey Hendrickson done, if not right 352 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,960 John McClain: before camp, right after camp begins. 353 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,159 John Harris: So I'm gonna say, yeah, I think that's the one 354 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,800 John Harris: I'm going with. It sounds like there is at least 355 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,800 John Harris: some positive movement. 356 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,480 Marc Vandermeer: Uh. 357 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,040 John Harris: I think the one that's curious to me is tj 358 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,720 John Harris: uh And whether you know TJ's you know, as James 359 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,479 John Harris: pointed out to me. James pointed out that his numbers 360 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,159 John Harris: are very similar to Miles, and we'll look at what 361 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,640 John Harris: Miles Garrett con I'm guarantee you TJ is like, wait 362 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480 John Harris: a second, mine are pretty similar to him. 363 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,360 Marc Vandermeer: Came in the league the same amount of time. So 364 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Marc Vandermeer: I think the TJ. 365 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,080 John Harris: Watt's gonna be very interesting to watch in Pittsburgh, no 366 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,800 John Harris: question about that. 367 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,680 John McClain: Benchburg John. Pittsburgh doesn't have a lot of holdouts from 368 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,240 John McClain: its players. They get it done in one advantage. Miles 369 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,639 John McClain: Garrett has said his team, Uh, he's been able to 370 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,400 John McClain: rush a lot. He can rush from any place on 371 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,679 John McClain: the field. TJ, course is a great outside player. And 372 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,600 John McClain: TJ didn't go public and say he wanted to be traded. 373 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,639 John McClain: He didn't want to play there anymore, didn't care about 374 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,320 John McClain: going to the Hall of Fame. All he want to 375 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,639 John McClain: do was win. He wanted to go somewhere else. But 376 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,960 John McClain: we'll give you thirty four minute. Oh okay, I'm happy. 377 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,639 John McClain: I love the Browns. I want to go to Hall 378 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,200 John McClain: of Fame. And obviously that was orchestrated by him and 379 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,520 John McClain: his agent. And TJ is not that kind of guy. 380 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,159 John McClain: But he's going to get paid. The Steelers know he 381 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,679 John McClain: needs to be paid. He's the most popular player on 382 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,560 John McClain: that team, the antithesis of Aaron Rodgers. And so they'll 383 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,560 John McClain: get it done. And now that you mentioned it, I'm 384 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,960 John McClain: guessing it'll be him or Hendrickson. Hendrickson is due to 385 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,800 John McClain: make I think sixteen. Supposedly they've offered him twenty eight, 386 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,480 John McClain: but he wants in the thirties. Not on blaming, but 387 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,399 John McClain: they could have gotten this deal done months ago and 388 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,480 John McClain: it would have been cheaper. That's why these teams that 389 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,160 John McClain: wait it always backfires on him. And that's why it's 390 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,919 John McClain: so smart for Nick Casserio to sign Derek Stingley Junior 391 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640 John McClain: when he did in this off season instead of wait 392 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,520 John McClain: to say next off season. Can you imagine this time 393 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,400 John McClain: next off season? People are going to go the world. 394 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,040 John McClain: Did they get Stanley so cheap? 395 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,920 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah, exactly, no doubt. General, I appreciate it, Thank you 396 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,400 Marc Vandermeer: very much. 397 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,640 John Harris: Thursdays are never the same without you, so I appreciate 398 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,560 John Harris: you joining me and my friend. 399 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Marc Vandermeer: Thank you, John. 400 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600 John McClain: It's my pleasure. Thank you very much. 401 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,080 John Harris: Coming up next, we go in the lab the last time. 402 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,840 John Harris: Drew Dougherty joins me right here at Texans All Access 403 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,720 John Harris: Chapping everybody, Welcome back to a Thursday edition of Texans 404 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,040 John Harris: All Access from technically the Hyundaie Texans. 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,200 Marc Vandermeer: Radio studio moved out West. 406 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,440 John Harris: Yes, your boy is out in the City of Angels, 407 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,240 John Harris: Los Angeles hang with my daughter for her birthday yesterday 408 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,480 John Harris: turned twenty three, so I have a birthday to her. 409 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,160 Marc Vandermeer: But appreciate you being with me this evening. Now. Mark 410 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,320 Marc Vandermeer: will be with our next guest tomorrow. 411 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,000 John Harris: As my man, Drew Doherty spends his last couple of 412 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,000 John Harris: days with the Houston Texans. This is as tough in 413 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,560 John Harris: the Lab to do as there possibly could be. And 414 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,560 John Harris: you'll actually hear that in my voice early in this one. 415 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,359 John Harris: Is it kind of hit me. I'm known for a 416 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,919 John Harris: little while that this was taking place, and I just 417 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,880 John Harris: was kind of blocking it out, not wanting to think 418 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,360 John Harris: about it until I had to, and I have to write. 419 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Marc Vandermeer: Now my man and Drew Doherty and I doing in. 420 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,600 John Harris: The Lab for the last time, technically the last time 421 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,080 John Harris: right here on Texans All Access. 422 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 5: Here we go, Hello there, Welcome to in the Lab. 423 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: I'm Drew Doherty, You're John Harris, and you are you. 424 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: Thank you you for joining us. It's the three of 425 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 5: us here on this little old podcast that John is 426 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: coming up on seven years of age. We started this 427 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen in the season. 428 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 6: I believe, right, I think I believe it was. 429 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, hey, maybe it was doing this and 430 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 5: maybe it was seventeen. I don't know, maybe it's coming 431 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 5: up on eight years, but nonetheless, and I think it 432 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: was seventeen. Anyways. Yeah, point is, we've done this a 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 5: long time, almost on a weekly basis. There have been 434 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 5: some times where you know, we miss a few weeks 435 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: in some odd spots, but many every week during the season, 436 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 5: most weeks in the off season. And this is the 437 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 5: last one we'll do because I'm leaving. I'm headed to 438 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: a new gig where we're shooting this on Thursday, releasing 439 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 5: this on Friday. I am gonna go to my alma mater, 440 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 5: Straight Jesuits, where I graduated high school back in the nineties, 441 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 5: and it's kind of it's not kind of it. It 442 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 5: is a place that shaped who I am. A lot 443 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 5: of what I did TV wise was kind of drawing 444 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 5: on the Shenanigans that I did back then. At s 445 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 5: JET Straight Jesuit Educational Television, That's what I'm gonna be doing. 446 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be running s JET as the director there 447 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: and then teaching some history classes, which people around the 448 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: Texans joke and that guy's always teaching history. 449 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: He's always lapping. 450 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 5: So hopefully it's a nice, seamless transition. But I'm really excited. 451 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 5: This is a prayers answered type of situation. I'm gonna 452 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: miss you, I'm gonna miss this podcast. I'm go miss 453 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: a lot of things about the Texans. But it's just 454 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: such a fantastic opportunity. And I've talked to about this 455 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 5: offline with you a bunch, and you've You've been such 456 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 5: an awesome supporter of mine, and I'm pumped. I'm really pumped. 457 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: On August fourth is my first day on the job. 458 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: August thirteenth will be my first day in the classroom. 459 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 5: So I'm sure shenanigans are going to ensue over the 460 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: next few years, and. 461 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 6: I can't wait. 462 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: Man. 463 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,639 John Harris: Yeah, I got a feeling that in a good way, 464 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,160 John Harris: you'll hear from me on August twelfth, the night before, 465 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,439 John Harris: because when you think about going to that classroom for 466 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,640 John Harris: the first time and you see all. 467 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,160 Marc Vandermeer: These youthful faces, there'll be that. 468 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,960 John Harris: Moment of oh god, yeah, but you know I went Now, 469 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,720 John Harris: I went through that as a twenty two year old 470 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,160 John Harris: and and I was teaching some kids that were literally 471 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,159 John Harris: two years I mean, I taught some kids there are 472 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879 John Harris: now fifty and it's kind of mind blowing in the 473 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,760 John Harris: sense to think back and there's there are so many 474 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,720 John Harris: things to say and trying say it with UH without 475 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,640 John Harris: kind of breaking up, which I'm doing now. But when 476 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,720 John Harris: you came in with this podcast, I'll be honest with you, 477 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,919 John Harris: I was kind of mad at you. I was like, dude, 478 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,600 John Harris: I've got like all these radio shows that we're already doing, 479 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,480 John Harris: Like why the hell are we doing a podcast now? 480 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Marc Vandermeer: Like what, what the hell? 481 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,880 John Harris: But I was like, you know, it's Drew, so it's 482 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760 John Harris: gonna be awesome, So just you know, shut up and 483 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,240 John Harris: go with it. And the first one that we did 484 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,320 John Harris: was some incantation of if you could take two former 485 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,359 John Harris: oilers and put them on the Texans, what would it? 486 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,160 John Harris: Who would they be? And I like, all of a sudden, 487 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,840 John Harris: I was in. I was like, okay, this is the 488 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,080 John Harris: concept of our podcast. We're in, you know, because we 489 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000 John Harris: got to geek out and nerd out, and I knew 490 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,679 John Harris: I would always be happy because I was doing it 491 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,320 John Harris: with you. But the flip side of that was, you know, 492 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,520 John Harris: I remember coming home and kind of telling Paige about it. 493 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,600 John Harris: She's like, well, you know, is is that too much? 494 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,320 John Harris: They're already asking you to do this this? And this, 495 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,200 John Harris: and I was like, I was like, babe, it's with Drew, 496 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,560 John Harris: Like it'll be cool, it'll be fun. It don't feel 497 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,919 John Harris: like we're just you know, chopping it up about you know, 498 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:09,320 John Harris: former drafts, redrafts, you know, comparing foods to superheroes to Texans, 499 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,919 John Harris: and you know it'll it'll be fun. And I, you know, 500 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,840 John Harris: I I'm one of those, and I don't. I don't 501 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,520 John Harris: want to be this way, but I always think about 502 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,840 John Harris: I don't. I never want to think about the end, 503 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,200 John Harris: but I do because I think about, like I love 504 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,679 John Harris: doing this so much, like what's that last episode, Like 505 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 John Harris: you know, what's the last radio show, Like what's the 506 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,840 John Harris: last game? Like in some sense, and it's it's always 507 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,760 John Harris: kind of frustrated to. 508 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,520 Marc Vandermeer: Think that way. And then you're like, nah, you know 509 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,439 Marc Vandermeer: it'll be okay. Just kind of roll with it. 510 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,359 John Harris: And then you know, when we had determined, I'm actually 511 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,440 John Harris: I'm out in La. 512 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 513 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,360 John Harris: They came out here for my my daughter's birthday, and 514 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,760 John Harris: well twofold I came out here for my daughter's birthday. 515 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,280 John Harris: And then I got hired by Paige Harris Incorporated to 516 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,600 John Harris: drive all of her painting stuff back, which I have 517 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080 John Harris: no no idea, How'm gonna get all that stuff back 518 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,960 John Harris: in our car because I drove it out of your 519 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,119 John Harris: four years ago for them to have out here, and 520 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,600 John Harris: so now I'm driving that car back either way. 521 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,360 Marc Vandermeer: So I got it for a double reason. And then. 522 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,359 John Harris: You know, you and I had talked because you had 523 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,640 John Harris: been out, you had been out, and then I came 524 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,240 John Harris: here and. 525 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,639 Marc Vandermeer: So then you send me a text and said, yo, 526 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,960 Marc Vandermeer: let's do in the lab. 527 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 John Harris: And I just remember it hitting me like okay, this 528 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320 John Harris: is the last one, and I was like, ah, damn. 529 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,359 John Harris: So I will hold it together as best I possibly can. 530 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,280 John Harris: I know you and Mark, you know, are sitting down 531 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,680 John Harris: on Friday for a segment for Radio. But I'm gonna 532 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520 John Harris: play this Thursday on Radio two because it's you and 533 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840 John Harris: me and we're the we are the the nexus of 534 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,360 John Harris: in the lab. 535 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Marc Vandermeer: We are the you know, we are in the lab. 536 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800 John Harris: And so I will play this Thursday night after John McClain, 537 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,479 John Harris: as I typically would do throughout the week. And it 538 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,640 John Harris: was it was always so much fun doing it. I 539 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,280 John Harris: don't know if there were times, you know, even in 540 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920 John Harris: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, when it 541 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,520 John Harris: was like. 542 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Marc Vandermeer: What is going on? 543 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,280 John Harris: And you and I would put on a brave face 544 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680 John Harris: and get onto mics and put the cans on and 545 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520 John Harris: just start talking about Texans and start talking about wild 546 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,080 John Harris: stuff with the Texans, and you know, think a dream 547 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,760 John Harris: of a day when it would get turned around. And 548 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000 John Harris: then it started toning twenty twenty three, and you know, 549 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920 John Harris: you and I within the lab we started, you know, 550 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120 John Harris: we we celebrated that, and it was always it was 551 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,960 John Harris: always great. I cannot think, and I remember I was 552 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,720 John Harris: the first one I think that put the bug. And 553 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520 John Harris: HI may have had you may have had others, but 554 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,239 John Harris: I remember when you and I talked, you know, if 555 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280 John Harris: you probably a couple of years ago, just you know, 556 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,000 John Harris: about the future and such. I remember thinking, because I 557 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,680 John Harris: always think about you know, I spent my first seven 558 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,680 John Harris: years in private schools, and I always think about, you know, 559 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,440 John Harris: if somebody came to me with some sweetheart deal and 560 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,560 John Harris: wanted me to be the head master of a school. 561 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600 John Harris: You know, I'd have to put together a staff, and 562 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,680 John Harris: you know what people would I want on my staff 563 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,760 John Harris: and all that kind of stuff. 564 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Marc Vandermeer: And You've always been one of those people at the 565 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Marc Vandermeer: top of my. 566 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360 John Harris: List that I would immediately say, Okay, what would it 567 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240 John Harris: take to get you to come over to this school 568 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200 John Harris: with me, because there's so many things that you needed 569 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,880 John Harris: a school and kind of like, you know, you know 570 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600 John Harris: JJ Watt in a sense, how many of those can 571 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,360 John Harris: Drew phill Well, Like if you this and this and 572 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,480 John Harris: this and this and this, and he's a guy that 573 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880 John Harris: I trust in love inherently, so he would be perfect. 574 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,280 John Harris: And so you know when you you told me that 575 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,640 John Harris: this opportunity was available for you and that you were taking, 576 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,280 John Harris: I was just like I I was, I was pumped, 577 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,880 John Harris: and I was pumped for you. I was pumped for 578 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,040 John Harris: the kids that you're going to be around every single 579 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,000 John Harris: day and who they're learning from. It's just it's it's 580 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,640 John Harris: the perfect fit in my mind for you. I just 581 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,960 John Harris: you know, hate the fact that you know, you and 582 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,280 John Harris: I won't be able to do in the lab every 583 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,040 John Harris: week and amongst other things. 584 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680 Marc Vandermeer: But since we run into lab, we'll start with that one. 585 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 6: Yeah. 586 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: No, it's uh, it's really funny. It kind of came 587 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 5: about a couple a couple of months ago because my 588 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: wife had the great idea. She's like, why don't you 589 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 5: try and do a summer sports media camp, like a 590 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: day camp. Yeah, from eight to noon Monday to Friday 591 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 5: one week and you can take some field trips and 592 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: you can have some experts talk to the boys, and yeah, 593 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 5: pitch that idea to the folks at Strake Jesuit and 594 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: I had a pretty solid list of guests that we 595 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 5: came in and places we got to go and things 596 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 5: that they got to see. And I think that that 597 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: got some wheels turning in the minds of the folks 598 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: over there, and it all came together pretty quickly in May, 599 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 5: and yeah, I'm headed back and it's it's a it's 600 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 5: a really competitive place. I mean, it was always fast, 601 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 5: who's the smartest, who's the funniest, who's right this, blah 602 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: blah blah. So it's gonna be fun to get back there, uh, 603 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 5: you know doing I did the Deer Drew videos there 604 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: for a few years, and that was that was s 605 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: jet Man. That was was us screwing around back when 606 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: I used to interview the homecoming court and we had 607 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: them saying goofy inn, you know, goofy thing in the 608 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 5: mid nineties. I mean, it it's really fun. It's really 609 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: a great place. And uh, it's changed a lot, as 610 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 5: you would expect over the course of thirst. But it 611 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: hasn't shp at all, and that's that's the exciting part 612 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: about it for me. So I'm looking forward to going 613 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 5: there and looking forward to meeting, meeting and reconnecting with 614 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 5: some people who were there when I was there, who 615 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: taught when I was there. 616 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 6: And then there's a whole. 617 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640 John Harris: That's that's always a fun one that when you tell 618 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840 John Harris: when you walk in, yeah, you know. And here's one 619 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,000 John Harris: of the things when you when you when you're out 620 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,880 John Harris: of school, it's always, you know, coach. The coach is 621 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600 John Harris: easy because for me, like I call anybody that's a coach, 622 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880 John Harris: I call them coach. It's always it's always been coach. 623 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,880 John Harris: But when I had math teachers, you know missus Han, 624 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640 John Harris: you know my English teacher, English teachers, Miss Fhalan, h 625 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600 John Harris: Miss Morris, like I would see them as an adult, 626 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480 John Harris: like I went to go do a I went to 627 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560 John Harris: go do a speech. My my English teacher, Miss Fhalan, 628 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,720 John Harris: Maxine Phalen was getting a school named after her, and. 629 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Marc Vandermeer: I was they were, well, I should say, they were 630 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Marc Vandermeer: trying to get her. 631 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520 John Harris: And so they were like, hey, would you come speak 632 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,400 John Harris: about her for five minutes to the school district, And 633 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,720 John Harris: that said absolutely. 634 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Marc Vandermeer: So I went in. 635 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,480 John Harris: I did that. That was in twenty nineteen, so it's 636 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880 John Harris: before COVID. So they go this long stretch of time 637 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,240 John Harris: without she gets to school and they were like, okay, 638 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,760 John Harris: we're going to dedicate the school in this day. Would 639 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,720 John Harris: you come out to Richard Rosenberg and you know, dedicate 640 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,200 John Harris: this or speak to to everybody? 641 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Marc Vandermeer: And I said absolutely. 642 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,360 John Harris: And I see her and it's like, hey, miss Falen, 643 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,280 John Harris: and I'm like, you know, here I am, you know, 644 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320 John Harris: nearing my fifties and I'm calling my English teachers still, 645 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,040 John Harris: Miss Faling. You know, I can only imagine what it's 646 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,640 John Harris: gonna be like to maybe work next to some of 647 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680 John Harris: those people that you you know, had called, you know, 648 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960 John Harris: mister Hall, miss Jones, and all of a sudden you 649 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,240 John Harris: got to say, hey, Catherine, you know it's gonna Bewley. 650 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 6: It's coach Crowley. There's a guy. 651 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,440 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah. Yeah. 652 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 6: He's the closest thing to a big brother. 653 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,760 Marc Vandermeer: Uh yeah. 654 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: He was my cross country and track and field coach. 655 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 5: He taught history when I was there. Since then, he's 656 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 5: been the athletic director. He's been the dean of students, 657 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: he's taught other classes, he's had of rules. He's the 658 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 5: athletic director again. Now, uh, he was instrumental in making 659 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: this all happen. But I called coach Crowley and you 660 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 5: always say that around people there now and they'll kind 661 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 5: of turn their head, like, Coachy, that's my coach. He's 662 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 5: a hell of a coach. Uh, but I think most 663 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: of them know him as mister Crowley or yeah, you 664 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 5: know whatever, but as a coach to me. So, I'm 665 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: looking forward to getting back, and it's gonna be really 666 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 5: really fun. Still gonna be here on game days. I'll 667 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 5: be up in a press box booth helping out some 668 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: of the folks on the game day entertainment side and 669 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 5: nice there, so and you and I are gonna be 670 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be hitting you with random text here and there. 671 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Ziper Kate. 672 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 5: And we might have some other little ventures cooked up 673 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 5: a time or two in the in the field. 674 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480 Marc Vandermeer: Never know, never never know. 675 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,000 John Harris: Yeah, it's funny because you you never you never you 676 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,680 John Harris: never say never. 677 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,279 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah. 678 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719 John Harris: I think I learned. I learned that actually at you know, 679 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,680 John Harris: private school. I remember when I was leaving the private school. 680 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,719 John Harris: I just remember, uh thinking, you know, okay, that's it. 681 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,320 John Harris: I'm never never doing that. I remember my wife saying, eh, 682 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,640 John Harris: you you never know, you never know what might happen. 683 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920 John Harris: And so when I got to Houston and started doing 684 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,160 John Harris: radio in two thousand and seven, I wasn't making a 685 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,080 John Harris: lot of money with it, and you know, not as 686 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,480 John Harris: much as I thought I was gonna make. And so 687 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,359 John Harris: new not new school, but a school that had been 688 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,200 John Harris: opened was opening a high school and called the Village 689 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,239 John Harris: School over on the West side. Yeah, and they were 690 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080 John Harris: opening a high school, and I remember my wife was 691 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,080 John Harris: going to apply for, you know, some some sort of position. 692 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,439 John Harris: Obviously she grew from being you know, part time art 693 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,799 John Harris: to basically like the second or third command over there. 694 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,280 Marc Vandermeer: I mean, she was instrumental in that place. 695 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120 John Harris: And so I remember sitting thinking around, going, you know, 696 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,280 John Harris: I wonder, you know, male math teachers aren't the easiest 697 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,520 John Harris: thing to find. I wonder if I offer up, you know, 698 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,160 John Harris: kind of a part time thing, you know what. They 699 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,040 John Harris: let me teach in the morning and then I go 700 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,520 John Harris: to radio in the afternoon, and they were for it, 701 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,120 John Harris: and so I went right back, and I did it 702 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,400 John Harris: for a couple of years where I was teaching in 703 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,800 John Harris: the morning and then I was doing radio in the afternoon. 704 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,319 John Harris: So it's like one of those things where you never 705 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,319 John Harris: say never, and you know, it's like with in a lab, 706 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279 John Harris: you know that it may not be the last one, 707 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,040 John Harris: might be. It may not be, you know, may not 708 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,600 John Harris: be the last time year Drew and I together. 709 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,560 Marc Vandermeer: Maybe it may not be. 710 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,000 John Harris: You know. It's kind of that that fun thing you 711 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,200 John Harris: never say never. You never closed doors. And obviously when 712 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,200 John Harris: you you know, have people you love, you always telling 713 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,680 John Harris: me you love them, and you're one of those people 714 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,000 John Harris: that you you were family to me and to the 715 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,800 John Harris: Harris kids. I know when Jack always came in a building. 716 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,320 John Harris: There was a time where Jack was coming in to 717 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,720 John Harris: the building with me a lot. School was not going well, 718 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440 John Harris: and I remember you would walk in, Hey Jack, and 719 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120 John Harris: Jack was just Jack would just light up. You were 720 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,719 John Harris: always great with him. So I can imagine these kids 721 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,480 John Harris: are getting a great one man. And I'm looking forward 722 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,359 John Harris: to seeing how that goes and what that what that's 723 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,399 John Harris: like for you. But this podcast has been sometimes you'd 724 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,239 John Harris: walk in and you're like, you know, like, okay, what 725 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,799 John Harris: are we gonna do with the podcast? And you're like, yeah, 726 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799 John Harris: just just dance with me. I'm like you'll know what 727 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160 John Harris: to do. I'm like, okay, all right, let's go then 728 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,960 John Harris: those that end up being some of the best in 729 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,440 John Harris: the labs because we would you know, we would redraft, 730 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,360 John Harris: you know, catchups or you know Texans that could have 731 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,640 John Harris: gone to other places or came from other places that 732 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520 John Harris: should have been Texans, and you know players from the 733 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,120 John Harris: city of Houston that went to other places that would 734 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,200 John Harris: be Texans all that. So it was always kind of 735 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,800 John Harris: fun because it always like peak my creativity and my thought, 736 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040 John Harris: you know, about what could be, you know, as opposed 737 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,480 John Harris: to what was or whatever the case might be. 738 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,799 Marc Vandermeer: So it was always really good to do that. 739 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 6: Okay, so. 740 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 5: Let's talk about a few of my favorite things what 741 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 5: we used to do together that we did here. So 742 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: I loved road trips. Yeah, like when we get some dinner. 743 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes I didn't. I didn't always go out to dinner 744 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 5: with you guys, because like, yeah, we've got family and 745 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: different places. I got friends in it, so I'd meet 746 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 5: up with them blah blah blah blah. Sometimes I just 747 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 5: stay because I have forty eight children at home and 748 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 5: I'm tired, I've got a little bit of a cold, 749 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 5: and I just yeah, what I love. The things I 750 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 5: love the most about road trips was after the game, 751 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 5: getting on the plane plus but the plane because inevitably 752 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 5: i'd either be sitting in your row with you, yeah, 753 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 5: right by you and breaking down what just happened, but 754 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 5: good or bad, you know, and lots of good times 755 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 5: because you've been doing this since you've been with us 756 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 5: since fourteen. 757 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 6: Good times. 758 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 5: Lots of bad times too, But I love just like 759 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 5: the behind the scenes, like did you see this, yeah, 760 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 5: fourteen quarterback hits and you know, like going through things 761 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 5: and breaking it down kind of the way you and 762 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: I would break down, just and like the little offshoots 763 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 5: and what happened here and this guy said this here 764 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 5: and I heard this. 765 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 6: And blah blah blah blah blah blah. 766 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 5: I love that that it was that time right before 767 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 5: takeoff as you brett bag up, you sit down and 768 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 5: just like that sometimes five minutes, sometimes thirty minutes, you know, 769 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 5: put your stuff up and talking the behind the scenes, 770 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 5: like the info and the the kind of the filler 771 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 5: material that you got. Yeah, so rich in those those times. 772 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 6: I love those. 773 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440 John Harris: It was really the first time on that Sunday or 774 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,359 John Harris: whatever night were the are night we were playing that you 775 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,560 John Harris: really kind of let your hair down because you and 776 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,920 John Harris: I even on the bus to the airport, you and 777 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,680 John Harris: I would be cranking out some sort. 778 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 5: Of article like a tyrannosaurce recks, because yeah, like you know, 779 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 5: like just HIPing like this. 780 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,279 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah, you know invariably, you know. 781 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 5: Hope that scene right there that they got Hope that's 782 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: the thumbnail for us. 783 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040 John Harris: Yeah, because you're literally just clocking keys and you got 784 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,839 John Harris: like people nextually you're like you're trying to and you're 785 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,839 John Harris: trying to send it, and you look, Okay, how much 786 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,040 John Harris: further do we have to the airport? 787 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 6: Okay? 788 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,759 John Harris: Can I finish this? Okay, I gotta send it? Do 789 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600 John Harris: I have wi FI? Who's got? Who's going? So we're 790 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120 John Harris: actually working all the way up until literally we were 791 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,200 John Harris: getting off the bus to get on a plane, and 792 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,200 John Harris: it's kind of the first moment of like, okay, all right, 793 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,040 John Harris: what happened? And then you start going through the game 794 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,479 John Harris: and and parts, you know, the moments of it, and 795 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,520 John Harris: you know, invariably, you know, we'd be you know, an 796 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,160 John Harris: hour into the flight and and one of us, you know, 797 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,680 John Harris: we we might even still be working at that point, 798 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,719 John Harris: and one of us would kind of nudge the other 799 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,919 John Harris: like hey, and we'd have this we'll call it game 800 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,840 John Harris: book and all its stats. 801 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,640 Marc Vandermeer: I remember this one. 802 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,680 John Harris: We were coming back from Cleveland and fourteen and we'd 803 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,399 John Harris: beaten Cleveland. There's a lot of things that happened that day, 804 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080 John Harris: but what was incredible, unbelievable. 805 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Marc Vandermeer: And I remember looking. 806 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,840 John Harris: To you and it showed you the statu sheet and 807 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,719 John Harris: I was like, he's got a number in every column. 808 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible, I think. And then of course there 809 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 5: was offensive Pender guests. I think at hitting the statistical buffet. 810 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 5: He got yeah, salad, he got jello, he got yeah, right, 811 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 5: it was amazing, got okra, he get everything in the 812 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 5: every statistic in the in the game. But we've talked 813 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 5: about this before on this podcast. But yeah, he Yeah, 814 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 5: that was a fun one. 815 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,520 Marc Vandermeer: That was it was that was incredible. 816 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,000 John Harris: And so there was those moments on a plane, you know, 817 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,200 John Harris: and and also there would be moments. I remember in 818 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200 John Harris: twenty fifteen, you and I were sitting next to each 819 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,080 John Harris: other and we were on a plane. We got an email. 820 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,959 John Harris: A lot of times this happens, we want to play 821 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,080 John Harris: going to a game. We're going to Jacksonville on twenty fifteen, 822 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,239 John Harris: and we were sitting next to each other and we 823 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,000 John Harris: look down because we get the same notice at the 824 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880 John Harris: same time and it says JJ Watt. 825 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,520 Marc Vandermeer: Is questionable with illness. 826 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,240 John Harris: Yeah, and we just looked at each other like we're 827 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,600 John Harris: we're screwed, Like this is not good. And it was 828 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,080 John Harris: probably about ten to fifteen minutes later he comes roll 829 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,239 John Harris: and he at this. At this time, we sat at 830 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,239 John Harris: the front of the plane. He comes by us. He's 831 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,840 John Harris: got shades on it. You can just see it, and 832 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,200 John Harris: we're like, oh god, you know. And it was like 833 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,760 John Harris: those things that we would see that we knew about. 834 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,319 John Harris: And I just remember, you know, not looking at each other, 835 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,440 John Harris: like when we mouthed some bad words to one another. 836 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,359 Marc Vandermeer: Went on a field, he played the whole game. 837 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,919 John Harris: I remember he puked right out of my shoes after 838 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600 John Harris: a j Boyot finished the game with interception. 839 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Marc Vandermeer: He puked right on my shoes or right near my shoes, 840 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,280 Marc Vandermeer: just like exhausted. 841 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,560 John Harris: And it was it was one of his worst statistical games, 842 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,280 John Harris: but he played really well because that jacks will focused 843 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,120 John Harris: everything on him. But I remember you and I would 844 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,680 John Harris: have some of those moments too, sitting on a plane 845 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,439 John Harris: and just you know, seeing players go by. So what's 846 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,200 John Harris: Arian Foster wearing today? Oh, he's wearing a you know, 847 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,799 John Harris: an Indian outfit, and and then Deep would pipe in 848 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239 John Harris: and go, yeah that I like that. You know that, 849 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,200 John Harris: my my husband has that, or I have a friend 850 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,440 John Harris: that wears that or something like that. I'd be like, okay, 851 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,160 John Harris: you know. So it was always kind of we always 852 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600 John Harris: had those moments planes with. I always thought it was 853 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,160 John Harris: kind of fun. You'd see a little bit of behind 854 00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,840 John Harris: the scenes stuff. 855 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,279 Marc Vandermeer: You know. 856 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 5: Another thing I loved game days sidelines. I wasn't always 857 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 5: on the sideline road games. Last few years, I was 858 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,479 Speaker 5: on the sidelines for home games. Yeah, road games. Every 859 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 5: once in a while, when the Texans would close them out, I. 860 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 6: Take we take a selfie together, you know. 861 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was I think it was that 862 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 5: bitter bitter the coldest one I've ever been to. You've 863 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 5: been to colder, but the coldest one I've ever been 864 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 5: to was that at Tennessee I think two three years ago, Yeah, 865 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 5: day before Christmas, and that was Yeah, that was a 866 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 5: fun one. And then home games, I just a lot 867 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 5: of times I just come up and stand beside you, 868 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 5: you know, while you're you're watching, I'm watching. But there's 869 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 5: just always fun, you know, being near you on those 870 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 5: game is and then also coming back from practices, I 871 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 5: was enjoyed the conversation. And then every once in a 872 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 5: while we're walking, I'd kind of look over the side 873 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 5: and see you walking, and then I'd start stepping on 874 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 5: every single crack as it would it would erupt your eight, 875 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 5: your your o c D. And you're I still do this, 876 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 5: I go crack it, yeah, yeah, And I get you going. 877 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,359 John Harris: I am very I'm very o c D that way, 878 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160 John Harris: and so I step over, I step over cracks. 879 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,680 Marc Vandermeer: I do not want, uh like cracking my Yeah. 880 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,279 John Harris: And so I just remember one day you steping on 881 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,760 John Harris: all I'm not saying anything at first, and then finally 882 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,480 John Harris: you said something like, you know, hey, I'm stepping on 883 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960 John Harris: these cracks, and I finally was like, you aren't doing it. 884 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,000 Marc Vandermeer: On purpose, but doing it. So yeah, it was that. 885 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,319 John Harris: He used to like, man, you got me, but yeah, 886 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,000 John Harris: it was uh and I think that's what what uh. 887 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,960 Marc Vandermeer: So life's supposed to be. 888 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120 John Harris: Man, You feel every single emotion every single day, and 889 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,879 John Harris: the people that make you feel those are the ones 890 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,440 John Harris: you you keep the closest to you, and you definitely 891 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440 John Harris: have been one of those since even before twenty fourteen. 892 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680 John Harris: I remember it was funny because when I went to 893 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,400 John Harris: the initial Bill Obriyant press conference in twenty fourteen, I 894 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,040 John Harris: remember you. 895 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,319 Marc Vandermeer: You came up to me and you were like, Hey, 896 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,719 Marc Vandermeer: we're gonna do more analytics. How do you think this 897 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,280 Marc Vandermeer: thing goes? 898 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 5: Like? 899 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,680 Marc Vandermeer: You know, knowing that I knew Bill, you know. 900 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,279 John Harris: You were trying to that was really kind of the 901 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,600 John Harris: first time I think we had we maybe met before that, 902 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,640 John Harris: but we kind of kind of chit chat at that point. 903 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160 John Harris: And you know a few months later you were unfortunate 904 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,280 John Harris: enough to have me in your building, a former former 905 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,600 John Harris: O'Brien disciple, like near you. But but yeah, it was 906 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,759 John Harris: always always the the ideas we had in the lab. 907 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,000 Marc Vandermeer: You know. 908 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,279 John Harris: One of the other things that we got to do 909 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,200 John Harris: was you know Texas bowls, uh kill Texas kickoffs and 910 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,920 John Harris: you and I would be up on the board and 911 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,600 John Harris: that was all. That was always a good time. I 912 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,680 John Harris: always felt bad for people. You have to see my 913 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080 John Harris: big head up there. But we would get texts like 914 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,160 John Harris: we would get text from people like hey man, I'm 915 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,920 John Harris: in the building and then they took a picture of 916 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,800 John Harris: you and I and you know, my wife used to 917 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,320 John Harris: get those when she was at home, like heym in 918 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,760 John Harris: the building. 919 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,759 Marc Vandermeer: I saw your husband Withdrew, and so I. 920 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 5: Love that we did probably we did probably twenty games 921 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 5: combined of those and I think half of them either 922 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 5: involved Mike. 923 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 6: Leech and or Urgerson, which is awesome. I love both. 924 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 5: Yes, because we I mean we knew you know the game, 925 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 5: you know college football, but I do a lot of 926 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 5: background on those two guys, so it was fun to Yeah, 927 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 5: and the other guys were cool too, that from the 928 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 5: other teams, but Do in particular. We loved those conversations 929 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 5: about and everything that came along with it. So yeah, 930 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 5: go on and on forever, your dear friend. I've loved 931 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 5: doing this. We hope you have have enjoyed watching or 932 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 5: listening to this podcast over the years. It's been a 933 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: lot of different things, a lot of weird things, and 934 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 5: I'm gonna miss doing it. It was always a thrill 935 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 5: to do this. It's always a fun part of my week. 936 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 5: And uh, like I said, we might have something cooked 937 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 5: up down the line. 938 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,400 Marc Vandermeer: Yeah, you never know. 939 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 5: I love you very much and I will see you soon. 940 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 5: I know, your friend, You're not gonna We're not We're 941 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 5: not saying goodbye. We're just saying so long right now, 942 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 5: and be safe. Coming back to LA or coming back 943 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: and just don't step on any cracks. 944 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,279 Marc Vandermeer: Okay, Yeah, I'm so glad that I got up. 945 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,440 John Harris: I woke my ass up to in LA because it's 946 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,360 John Harris: still dark thirty around here. So uh yeah, it was 947 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,080 John Harris: good man, but I yeah, I appreciate it. And the 948 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440 John Harris: first crack that you step on as you're walking down 949 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,400 John Harris: the hallway, you will have a chuckle thinking of me, 950 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,080 John Harris: So that's good. 951 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 5: Indeed, I will all right, this has been in the 952 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 5: Lab presented by Infinity one final. 953 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,360 John Harris: Time tomorrow night. Drew will be with Mark to finish 954 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,120 John Harris: it up on a Friday evening. U and I hate 955 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,399 John Harris: even saying those words. So with that said, we'll get 956 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,320 John Harris: to our final segment. We'll go round in the NFL 957 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,560 John Harris: quickly right here on Texans All Access. All right, we 958 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319 John Harris: won final segment of this edition to Texans All Access. 959 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,280 Marc Vandermeer: I'm your host, John Harris, Football and a sideline report. 960 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,160 John Harris: It'd be a quick one because obviously we had spent 961 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000 John Harris: some time with the General John mcclan and Drew dowerty 962 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,720 John Harris: uh in the final in the Lab on Texans All Access. 963 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,520 Marc Vandermeer: Make sure you tune in tomorrow. He'll be on with Mark. 964 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,240 John Harris: I'm sure We'll share a lot of memories about Drew's 965 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,040 John Harris: time with the Texans. Gonna miss him very, very very much, 966 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,439 John Harris: but I think what he is going on to do 967 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,960 John Harris: is going to be really cool, and I'm very happy 968 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,719 John Harris: for him and his family, And that's just one of 969 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,640 John Harris: the best family. Their family to me, and their family 970 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,680 John Harris: to a lot of you, because I know a lot 971 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,400 John Harris: of you have listened to Drew, respecting him for a 972 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,560 John Harris: very long time, and so we will continue to do 973 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,960 John Harris: that now. The news came down yesterday and I actually 974 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,040 John Harris: was in La Los Angeles where I'm visiting my daughter. 975 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,640 John Harris: The Texans open training camp June twenty third and then 976 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,560 John Harris: going to the Greenbrier. 977 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,360 Marc Vandermeer: Baby. Yes, so excited about this. 978 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,600 John Harris: I actually been sitting on that news for about two months, 979 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,680 John Harris: two and a half months that it was a strong possibility. 980 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,120 Marc Vandermeer: It was like, we can do this, we can do it. 981 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,799 John Harris: So glad that we can week in Houston, week at 982 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,120 John Harris: the Greenbrier, week in Houston, a week in Detroit roughly, 983 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,799 John Harris: and then we'll come back here to just get ready 984 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,080 John Harris: for the La Rams to start the season. 985 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,040 Marc Vandermeer: All Right, It's been a great show. 986 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,319 John Harris: Appreciate John McClain forever, love for Drew Doherty for all 987 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,680 John Harris: of you the same, We'll see all tomorrow and as always, 988 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,240 John Harris: go Texans.